1 00:00:05,881 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apoche production. 2 00:00:14,761 --> 00:00:16,241 Speaker 2: What was it. What was it like for your fist 3 00:00:16,281 --> 00:00:17,921 Speaker 2: experience when you did do a threesome? 4 00:00:18,121 --> 00:00:22,441 Speaker 1: Oh my god, very funny. So this was during COVID. 5 00:00:22,761 --> 00:00:31,801 Speaker 2: You're not supposed to be doing anything in COVID. But we. 6 00:00:33,681 --> 00:00:37,361 Speaker 1: Had this one friend. Now when I first like really 7 00:00:37,561 --> 00:00:41,881 Speaker 1: became partners and we really became committed relationship, Spencer had 8 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,881 Speaker 1: this couple that was his really good friends and at 9 00:00:45,921 --> 00:00:48,081 Speaker 1: the time he was like, let me bring them in 10 00:00:48,241 --> 00:00:51,001 Speaker 1: and let the four of us hang out, so you 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,081 Speaker 1: can get an understanding of what it's like to be 12 00:00:53,241 --> 00:00:57,721 Speaker 1: intimate with four people. Now, our intimacy was not penetration. 13 00:00:58,041 --> 00:01:00,441 Speaker 1: It was like we rolled at that time, so like 14 00:01:00,521 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: we would roll and then just snuggle and chat and 15 00:01:04,761 --> 00:01:08,441 Speaker 1: they share their scenarios with me to see like if 16 00:01:08,441 --> 00:01:10,681 Speaker 1: I would be interested in not, so they kind of 17 00:01:10,681 --> 00:01:13,801 Speaker 1: like gradually eased me into what would be like to 18 00:01:13,961 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: like really be in a sexual foursome. Fast forward to COVID. 19 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: Shortly before that happened, that couple ended up getting divorced, 20 00:01:23,441 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: nothing having to do with the Life Cell or anything. 21 00:01:25,081 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: It was just whatever. But we still really remained really 22 00:01:27,761 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: good friends with the guy part of it, and we 23 00:01:30,401 --> 00:01:33,401 Speaker 1: would hang out all the time, like nothing ever happened 24 00:01:33,401 --> 00:01:38,321 Speaker 1: between the relationship or anything, so come covid. I don't 25 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,961 Speaker 1: know what ended up sparking my brain, but I was 26 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,241 Speaker 1: like really wanting to try and really push my boundary. 27 00:01:44,681 --> 00:01:47,161 Speaker 1: So I said to Spencer one day he was going 28 00:01:47,241 --> 00:01:49,601 Speaker 1: to see his friend, and I said to him, I 29 00:01:49,641 --> 00:01:52,601 Speaker 1: was like, listen, I said, if you are okay with it, 30 00:01:53,001 --> 00:01:55,761 Speaker 1: why don't we ask him if he wants to join 31 00:01:55,881 --> 00:01:58,641 Speaker 1: us and see what happens. You know, I'm thinking, since 32 00:01:58,641 --> 00:02:01,161 Speaker 1: seems so sweet to me early on, and you know, 33 00:02:01,241 --> 00:02:03,441 Speaker 1: kind of eased me into it, like it would be 34 00:02:03,481 --> 00:02:07,841 Speaker 1: a good experience having this guy do it. So I'm 35 00:02:07,881 --> 00:02:10,601 Speaker 1: thinking that when Spencer goes to see him, he's gonna 36 00:02:10,641 --> 00:02:12,401 Speaker 1: talk to him about it and like map it all 37 00:02:12,441 --> 00:02:15,121 Speaker 1: out and whatever. And no, he just invited him to 38 00:02:15,121 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: come over that night. So he comes over and we're 39 00:02:17,841 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: sitting at the dinner table and Spencer goes, so, I 40 00:02:20,841 --> 00:02:22,881 Speaker 1: don't know, you want to bang us or you know, like, 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,161 Speaker 1: how do you? I was like, oh my good. I 42 00:02:25,201 --> 00:02:26,601 Speaker 1: was like, I thought that you were going to ask 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: him this earlier. I thought that this was like already 44 00:02:28,881 --> 00:02:33,761 Speaker 1: set up, Like what the fuck up? Guard? So, you know, 45 00:02:34,321 --> 00:02:37,241 Speaker 1: one thing led to another, and we did. We started 46 00:02:37,281 --> 00:02:39,761 Speaker 1: out in the living room, and I think that I 47 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,841 Speaker 1: originally started out and I was like blowing both of 48 00:02:41,841 --> 00:02:43,761 Speaker 1: them because I was like trying to figure out how 49 00:02:43,881 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: this goes? Like what am I supposed to do here? Now? 50 00:02:46,441 --> 00:02:49,081 Speaker 1: I probably should have watched porn or something I wouldn't 51 00:02:49,121 --> 00:02:52,721 Speaker 1: give myself, you know, some like insight, but I didn't, 52 00:02:53,201 --> 00:02:54,961 Speaker 1: and so here I am. I'm just like trying to 53 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: make it work or whatever. And the groove just really 54 00:02:58,001 --> 00:03:01,081 Speaker 1: started going and it was so amazing. And at one 55 00:03:01,121 --> 00:03:03,161 Speaker 1: point in the middle of all of this, I turned 56 00:03:03,161 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: to Mike. I turned to my fiance. No, I was like, 57 00:03:05,321 --> 00:03:06,201 Speaker 1: I love you so much. 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:06,841 Speaker 2: This is so. 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,281 Speaker 1: Like, what a weird thing to do. I'm like, what 60 00:03:10,321 --> 00:03:13,081 Speaker 1: a weird thing to say at this moment. But but you. 61 00:03:13,001 --> 00:03:14,881 Speaker 2: Know, that was your first threesome. You're saying, that's your 62 00:03:14,921 --> 00:03:18,161 Speaker 2: first threesome. Yeah, and this might sound like a funny question, 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,321 Speaker 2: but how did you know how to share it out 64 00:03:20,361 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: between the two and without one getting jealous on one 65 00:03:22,761 --> 00:03:23,601 Speaker 2: lose them out? 66 00:03:23,881 --> 00:03:27,081 Speaker 1: That was my biggest concern, you know, but each of 67 00:03:27,161 --> 00:03:31,321 Speaker 1: them are so experienced that my partner really loves to 68 00:03:31,401 --> 00:03:34,801 Speaker 1: watch me get banged. So for him, it was easy 69 00:03:34,801 --> 00:03:36,681 Speaker 1: for him to sit back some and just kind of 70 00:03:36,681 --> 00:03:38,881 Speaker 1: like watch and just you know, like let me do 71 00:03:39,001 --> 00:03:41,561 Speaker 1: my thing and kind of find my comfort with the 72 00:03:41,641 --> 00:03:44,961 Speaker 1: other guy. And so I think because of that it 73 00:03:45,081 --> 00:03:48,761 Speaker 1: really flowed so easily, and even to this day, like 74 00:03:49,361 --> 00:03:52,601 Speaker 1: I never worry about it because I know at the end, 75 00:03:52,721 --> 00:03:55,441 Speaker 1: after our play session is over, with whomever it is, 76 00:03:55,881 --> 00:03:58,041 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fucking my guy right Like there's never 77 00:03:58,081 --> 00:03:59,961 Speaker 1: a point in time where we end the night of 78 00:04:00,001 --> 00:04:02,641 Speaker 1: a play where it doesn't end in the two of us, 79 00:04:02,681 --> 00:04:06,281 Speaker 1: So I know he's always going to get his final 80 00:04:06,401 --> 00:04:09,481 Speaker 1: like what he enjoys, Like most importantly, he loves when 81 00:04:09,681 --> 00:04:11,841 Speaker 1: my voina is so stretched out that like it feels 82 00:04:11,881 --> 00:04:15,201 Speaker 1: like nothing when he's fucking me, So you know, if 83 00:04:15,241 --> 00:04:18,081 Speaker 1: he could get that task accomplished and then bang me afterwards, 84 00:04:18,081 --> 00:04:18,721 Speaker 1: like he's good. 85 00:04:20,401 --> 00:04:21,961 Speaker 2: Have you ever done a threesome with them? 86 00:04:22,161 --> 00:04:26,081 Speaker 1: Just cheeks? Yep, we've done? How is that? Oh? So great? 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,161 Speaker 1: It's so great. Two things I love. I love watching 88 00:04:29,281 --> 00:04:32,001 Speaker 1: my partner be pleasured, But I also love listening to 89 00:04:32,041 --> 00:04:34,801 Speaker 1: the girls be pleasured because I know what he does 90 00:04:34,841 --> 00:04:36,961 Speaker 1: to me and like what my sensations and stuff are 91 00:04:37,041 --> 00:04:39,841 Speaker 1: so to hear them, you know, have know that he's 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,841 Speaker 1: giving them the same pleasure is just so erotic in 93 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,441 Speaker 1: my opinion, and the flow goes really well. That's the thing, 94 00:04:47,521 --> 00:04:49,481 Speaker 1: Like everybody has to be willing to sit back for 95 00:04:49,481 --> 00:04:51,641 Speaker 1: a second. Everybody has to be willing to like not 96 00:04:51,721 --> 00:04:54,601 Speaker 1: be selfish and their sexual needs at that time and 97 00:04:54,681 --> 00:04:57,921 Speaker 1: just let everything organically flow. So I never put so 98 00:04:58,001 --> 00:05:00,361 Speaker 1: much pressure into thinking about like, oh it's my turn, 99 00:05:00,481 --> 00:05:02,161 Speaker 1: or I need to do this, or I need to 100 00:05:02,201 --> 00:05:04,281 Speaker 1: do that. You know, I usually am like doing some 101 00:05:04,401 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: caressing while they're doing their business. But you know, for 102 00:05:08,121 --> 00:05:12,201 Speaker 1: the most part, it flows so easily when it's done right. See. 103 00:05:12,241 --> 00:05:15,681 Speaker 1: To answer one of your questions early on, my Fansee 104 00:05:15,681 --> 00:05:18,641 Speaker 1: always said, when the stars and moon align, you will 105 00:05:18,681 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: know you want to bang somebody, and if you don't 106 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,761 Speaker 1: get that sensation, don't do it. And I have followed 107 00:05:24,761 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: that every single time, and every single play session that 108 00:05:28,561 --> 00:05:32,721 Speaker 1: we've ever had has been extremely explosive in every single way, 109 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,361 Speaker 1: Like I've never regretted any of them, Like they're just 110 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,681 Speaker 1: so delicious. 111 00:05:36,561 --> 00:05:40,081 Speaker 2: Just everything once where you've you've got that jealous instinct, 112 00:05:40,241 --> 00:05:41,001 Speaker 2: never not. 113 00:05:41,161 --> 00:05:44,921 Speaker 1: In a sexual aspect, I can say like maybe sometimes 114 00:05:44,921 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: like over a text message or not a text message, 115 00:05:47,961 --> 00:05:50,241 Speaker 1: So like we have rules where neither one of us 116 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: are allowed to talk outside of a group message, just 117 00:05:52,641 --> 00:05:55,681 Speaker 1: because it keeps a transparency, It keeps everybody on the 118 00:05:55,721 --> 00:05:59,001 Speaker 1: same page, especially for the play partners, so they know 119 00:05:59,361 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: that we're aligned and they know what their place is. 120 00:06:02,361 --> 00:06:05,881 Speaker 1: Sometimes the girls don't know what the rules are, so 121 00:06:05,921 --> 00:06:09,121 Speaker 1: they'll try and message like outside of a group message. 122 00:06:09,161 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: And so initially, like one time there was that where 123 00:06:12,761 --> 00:06:16,241 Speaker 1: that happened and he sent a photo and I got 124 00:06:16,241 --> 00:06:18,121 Speaker 1: like upset because I was just like, this is not 125 00:06:18,281 --> 00:06:20,281 Speaker 1: the rules and this is not what we're supposed to doing. 126 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: So in that aspect, yes, but never in a sexual regard. 127 00:06:24,601 --> 00:06:26,961 Speaker 2: Ever, it was never wed the first time you seen 128 00:06:27,041 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: him like sexually, get someone else and you have to 129 00:06:29,361 --> 00:06:32,121 Speaker 2: watch Never No, I see that. That's what I'm trying 130 00:06:32,121 --> 00:06:34,161 Speaker 2: to get around, because that would be very hard for 131 00:06:34,241 --> 00:06:36,041 Speaker 2: me to watch someone else. 132 00:06:36,761 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: It's true. So okay, so let's talk about that for 133 00:06:39,521 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: a second. When I first met him and I was 134 00:06:42,481 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: really trying to understand this lifestyle, I would say to 135 00:06:45,481 --> 00:06:48,281 Speaker 1: him like I don't understand, Like how do you separate 136 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: your emotions? How do you separate this part out from 137 00:06:51,961 --> 00:06:53,921 Speaker 1: actually being able to have sex with somebody? Because you're 138 00:06:53,921 --> 00:06:56,401 Speaker 1: always taught like you need to love somebody, you need 139 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,081 Speaker 1: to do this, and you need to or at least 140 00:06:58,081 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: have some sort of something for them. And I just 141 00:07:00,681 --> 00:07:04,041 Speaker 1: couldn't understand it, and so he would just be like, 142 00:07:04,121 --> 00:07:08,801 Speaker 1: I promise you, when the moment is right, you will understand. 143 00:07:09,041 --> 00:07:11,681 Speaker 1: I probably talked to him about it like six months before, 144 00:07:11,721 --> 00:07:15,561 Speaker 1: like really actually diving into doing something, and I would 145 00:07:15,601 --> 00:07:17,761 Speaker 1: ask the same question, but I don't understand. How do 146 00:07:17,801 --> 00:07:20,001 Speaker 1: you separate the emotion? How do you how do you 147 00:07:20,161 --> 00:07:23,481 Speaker 1: not feel those emotions? And he's like, I promise when 148 00:07:23,521 --> 00:07:26,121 Speaker 1: the stars and moving a ligne, you will know and 149 00:07:26,161 --> 00:07:29,521 Speaker 1: it will be just that, and it's true. And I've 150 00:07:29,521 --> 00:07:32,121 Speaker 1: always followed that mindset. And so I think that because 151 00:07:32,121 --> 00:07:36,081 Speaker 1: I've always been very into that particular situation that was 152 00:07:36,121 --> 00:07:38,561 Speaker 1: going to happen, I never felt any of that because 153 00:07:38,601 --> 00:07:40,881 Speaker 1: I always felt just the sexual energy of like, oh 154 00:07:40,881 --> 00:07:43,361 Speaker 1: my god, this is gonna happen. This is like what 155 00:07:43,401 --> 00:07:46,201 Speaker 1: we're gonna do, you know, And so I think that 156 00:07:46,201 --> 00:07:48,161 Speaker 1: that's how I always was able to get through it. 157 00:07:48,441 --> 00:07:50,441 Speaker 2: Have you ever in tried to entice any coal for 158 00:07:50,521 --> 00:07:51,281 Speaker 2: people to come in. 159 00:07:51,441 --> 00:07:55,921 Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, no, no, no. 160 00:07:55,441 --> 00:07:57,161 Speaker 2: I'm just saying like I'm doing. 161 00:07:57,961 --> 00:08:01,001 Speaker 1: No so you know here, we know I funny enough. 162 00:08:01,121 --> 00:08:03,441 Speaker 1: So like six months after I had met my fiance, 163 00:08:04,041 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: my corporate job ended up moving to a different state. 164 00:08:07,361 --> 00:08:10,041 Speaker 1: So my job position ended up getting eliminated. But my 165 00:08:10,361 --> 00:08:13,281 Speaker 1: bosses all knew very well what it was that I 166 00:08:13,321 --> 00:08:16,001 Speaker 1: was up to. Since my home life was so fucked up. 167 00:08:16,241 --> 00:08:18,841 Speaker 1: It was like my bosses were all like my family 168 00:08:19,001 --> 00:08:22,561 Speaker 1: type deal. So when I first met Spenser, I went 169 00:08:22,641 --> 00:08:24,801 Speaker 1: I told my bosses, even like the head of HR, 170 00:08:24,881 --> 00:08:27,401 Speaker 1: what the fuck was I thinking? Freaking head of HR 171 00:08:27,561 --> 00:08:30,041 Speaker 1: in this company. I'm like the CEO of this company. 172 00:08:30,281 --> 00:08:32,521 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm going to a swingers party this weekend. 173 00:08:32,561 --> 00:08:33,961 Speaker 1: I need to take off on Friday. 174 00:08:34,001 --> 00:08:37,881 Speaker 2: And you're like what, yeah, like and imagine the Christmas 175 00:08:37,881 --> 00:08:40,481 Speaker 2: parties the right. 176 00:08:40,721 --> 00:08:43,881 Speaker 1: So yeah, they were very inquisitive when I got back 177 00:08:43,881 --> 00:08:46,721 Speaker 1: into the office on Monday, trying to understand what it 178 00:08:46,841 --> 00:08:48,521 Speaker 1: was I was up to, and I was just like, oh. 179 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:50,641 Speaker 2: My god, you wouldn't ever go anywhere thing you were 180 00:08:50,681 --> 00:08:51,201 Speaker 2: talking about. 181 00:08:51,241 --> 00:08:54,521 Speaker 1: You you should go Oh yeah, Oh they were. They're like, 182 00:08:54,601 --> 00:08:57,201 Speaker 1: you need to walk us through it, like this happens? 183 00:08:57,241 --> 00:08:59,921 Speaker 1: How was it? And I'm like trying to explain, like, 184 00:09:00,161 --> 00:09:02,161 Speaker 1: you know, because everybody has this idea that you walk 185 00:09:02,201 --> 00:09:03,721 Speaker 1: into a swingers party and it's going to be this 186 00:09:03,801 --> 00:09:07,121 Speaker 1: huge orgy, but it's like that you walk into the event, 187 00:09:07,401 --> 00:09:09,361 Speaker 1: you know, they usually start at nine o'clock at night, 188 00:09:09,521 --> 00:09:12,721 Speaker 1: and it's like any other bar you go there, any. 189 00:09:12,561 --> 00:09:15,001 Speaker 2: Of a bar, it's like any of her I've never 190 00:09:15,041 --> 00:09:17,121 Speaker 2: walked into a bar yet when I've gone okay, I'm 191 00:09:17,121 --> 00:09:18,721 Speaker 2: going on the dunce floor and they're taking a body 192 00:09:18,761 --> 00:09:22,241 Speaker 2: clothes off, So it's not like any of her bar. 193 00:09:25,721 --> 00:09:29,961 Speaker 1: I must be going to some born balls. I know 194 00:09:30,001 --> 00:09:32,761 Speaker 1: that your history has to be pretty exciting too. I 195 00:09:32,801 --> 00:09:36,001 Speaker 1: can't imagine you see anything wild in your day. I mean, 196 00:09:41,201 --> 00:09:46,161 Speaker 1: and I thought it was a party animal, but oh 197 00:09:46,201 --> 00:09:47,161 Speaker 1: my god, I can't with this