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Speaker 2: Hey Ticks, I'm out and I'm sal And this is

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Speaker 2: Two Broke Chicks, the show that shares life lessons and

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Speaker 2: tips to help make you rich in life. And Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: Live Life.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back for another fun little Eppie, how are you

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Speaker 1: say out? I'm good? How are you going? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: She's good, she's babe, and she's thriving.

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Speaker 2: Well, today we are going to be talking about the

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Speaker 2: things we need to unlearn in our twenties sown. I

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Speaker 2: have these things that I'm sure you chicks do too,

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Speaker 2: that we have ingrained in us, and we're like, fuck,

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Speaker 2: we need to stop doing that. For example, one we've

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Speaker 2: mentioned on the podcast a lot is saying the word

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Speaker 2: just for example.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's very minimizing to what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: You very often can remove that from your vocabulary. So

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Speaker 2: these are those kind of life lessons that were like, damn,

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Speaker 2: let's move past these things.

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Speaker 1: Also, some of these things like I don't know about

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Speaker 1: you because I don't know what yours are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like, I'm still in the process of some

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Speaker 2: of these things. Like I'm like still catching myself doing

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Speaker 2: some of these things that I want to unload, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, stop it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely minor for sure, things that I still do

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Speaker 3: or you know, I've found myself falling back into patterns.

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Speaker 1: And I'm in my thirties. So that's the thing as well.

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Speaker 3: Even if you're not in your twenties and you're listening

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Speaker 3: to this episode. I think all of these things will

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Speaker 3: be good reminders no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Age you are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the things we need to unload in

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Speaker 2: our twenties and be olden.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before we start, let's talk about our.

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Speaker 2: Obsession of the week.

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Speaker 1: So what are you obsessed with? I have another TV show?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, tell me.

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Speaker 3: Clearly, I'm in my cozy girl erage. It's winter and

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Speaker 3: I'm consuming all of the content. The best time to

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 1: But it's a new show on Netflix and it's called

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Speaker 1: four Seasons Seeing this pop up.

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Speaker 2: It's Steve Carell in it and Tina Fey here, so obviously, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a good calculation there.

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Speaker 1: It's so good. I think it's eight episodes.

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Speaker 2: Each episode is around thirty minutes, so super easy to watch.

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Speaker 2: And it's about three couples who have all been friends

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Speaker 2: for decades and they go on quarterly trips together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is really cute, cute little tradition.

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Speaker 3: But then one of the couples breaks up, and so

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Speaker 3: it like completely.

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Speaker 1: Steve Carell and Tina are they in a couple together?

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Speaker 1: They're not in a couple together.

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Speaker 3: But I won't give it away because that is the

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Speaker 3: description of the TV show, so I haven't dropped like

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Speaker 3: a big spoiler. By later, you know, one of them

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Speaker 3: breaks up, but I don't want to say who breaks up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do find out in the first episode though, ok.

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Speaker 3: But it's really good and every episode finishes on a

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Speaker 1: Oh no sad.

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Speaker 3: At the end of every episode, I'd be like, fuck,

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Speaker 3: like just wanting to watch.

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Speaker 1: The next one. It's really good. Okay, Yeah, what's your obsession?

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Speaker 2: My obsession of the week is the thirteen dollar press

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Speaker 2: I'm on like a press on nail's journey recession indicator.

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Speaker 2: But I just simply can't sit in a nail salon

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Speaker 2: it's too much, it's hard to fit into and just

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Speaker 2: the price has gotten insane, and like, I get it,

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Speaker 2: people need people have their own businesses. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, but I am allowed to sit here

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Speaker 1: I was like, these last two weeks, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to do that. Yeah, But again, each to their own.

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Speaker 2: But if you also feel that way, highly recommend the

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Speaker 2: cant non press on nails. I've had these on for

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Speaker 2: nearly three weeks, yeah, and ones popped off and then

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Speaker 2: completely transparent with you. How Like it's so affordable the

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Speaker 2: like two hundred dollars is so much cheaper. And I

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Speaker 2: have tried press on nails over the years before, and

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Speaker 2: So yeah, highly recommend the cotton on press on nails.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen dollars and you get heaps in the packet, like

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Speaker 2: They're like iron Yeah, but like I've had these on

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Speaker 2: unlearn in our twenties and beyond, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Things we need to unlearn in our twenties and beyond

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Speaker 3: money dysmorphia oh, have you heard of this term before?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So for anybody who isn't familiar, money dysmorphia isn't

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Speaker 3: a clinical term. It's essentially an Internet term to describe

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Speaker 3: But essentially, it's an Internet theory that describes somebody who

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Speaker 3: And a recent survey conducted by Credit Karma found that

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Speaker 3: twenty nine percent of Americans experience money dysmorphia. This is

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Speaker 1: Jones Jones, Joneses, Joneses. But the comparison trap.

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Speaker 3: I think either makes you feel inadequate and like you

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Speaker 2: I also think it's the fact that no one teaches

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Speaker 3: But on the other side of that, money dysmorphia can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this doesn't mean that.

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Speaker 3: Like the cost of living crisis and that money isn't stressful,

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Speaker 3: it's a reminder that we should be less hard on ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because like you were saying, we don't learn anything

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Speaker 2: Dude, I didn't have savings until I, like maybe two

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Speaker 3: But I think the thing is, though, is that looking

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Speaker 3: But because I'd spent so much money like buying you know,

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Speaker 3: Literally, that's what I mean, Like I probably could have

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Speaker 3: saying that, like I wasn't, you know, struggling financially at

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Speaker 2: And I also think we've just confused the term flattering

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Speaker 2: It should be fueled by the fact that when you

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Speaker 3: also it means that we're only celebrating these really additional

443
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Speaker 3: milestones in our life, such as buying house, getting engaged,

444
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 3: getting married, having children. These are all amazing things definitely

445
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 3: worth celebrating. Grab a bottle of sheep, yeah, honestly. But

446
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: something for myself, which I've spoken about on the show,

447
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: is that, like my whole life, I've never seen those

448
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: things like getting engaged having kids in my timeline, so

449
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily have deadlines for those things for myself. However,

450
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Speaker 3: in my later twenties and now even in my thirties,

451
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: I do think to myself, like, all of these people

452
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: around me are getting engaged, having kids, which is amazing,

453
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: and there's so many opportunities to celebrate those things. But

454
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Speaker 3: I also I'm kind of like, when do I get

455
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Speaker 3: to celebrate something now, because once you turn you know,

456
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: like twenty one or thirty is like the last big

457
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Speaker 3: birthday in to like fifty, right, Yeah, well I would

458
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Speaker 3: say forty probably.

459
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Speaker 1: I think my mom had a big forty. Yes. No,

460
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I like that's good. Yeah, celebrate a whole decade.

461
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 2: I know, you know, that's a long time to not

462
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: have anyone like say nice things about you in a

463
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Speaker 2: room full of people with you know, jelly shots in

464
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Speaker 2: the corner.

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00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

466
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Speaker 3: I think that whether or not you do plan to

467
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: celebrate those traditional milestones or not, Like, why not embrace

468
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: opportunities to celebrate more great things that we don't just women?

469
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Speaker 1: What should we celebrate? What's what's our next celebration for you?

470
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: Because now you've brought this to my attention, and as

471
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: the person in the world sub Chris who loves you

472
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Speaker 2: the most, I'm like, what are we going to celebrate?

473
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Speaker 1: You know what? I love?

474
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Speaker 3: You know?

475
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: On Sex and the City.

476
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Samantha has a I don't have any babies party.

477
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Speaker 3: When I first saw that, I was like, holy shit,

478
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: that is such a good idea.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, when should we do that? Thirty five? Yeah, I

480
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: reckon that's between I don't have any babies party? Yeah,

481
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: I think that's so fun. But I do have a

482
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Speaker 1: list of that I think that we can celebrate.

483
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: Okay, hit me, So things we need to celebrate in

484
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: our twenties and beyond that isn't getting married, baby showers,

485
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: or buying a house.

486
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: Moving out, getting a promotion, or leaving a job that

487
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: you hate, or leaving a man that you hate.

488
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: Yes, that's definitely one.

489
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: Leaving a relationship that you're not happy in or a friendship,

490
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: paying off debt or.

491
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Speaker 1: Your hex more of us need to have payoff parties. Yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: because I broke up with Hex.

493
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: Yes, breaking a bad habit, finding a passion or purpose

494
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 3: and taking a risk.

495
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not.

496
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a huge party. It can

497
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: just be, Hey, I paid off my Hex. Can we

498
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: go for a drink?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Friday?

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Speaker 3: I want a toast to something, get a cake and

501
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 3: having more things like that. And I think you and

502
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: I especially, we don't do this enough and celebrate the

503
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: little wins that we have along the way, and I

504
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: think everybody needs to do that more.

505
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: I think everyone listening to this needs to put in

506
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 2: a celebration for something that they've achieved this year or

507
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: will achieve.

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Speaker 1: That's everyone's homework. Yeah, let us know in the comments

509
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Speaker 1: what you're going to do.

510
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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, My final one is a quickie and yeah,

511
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: my favorite.

512
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: And the thing we need.

513
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: To unlearn in our twenties is that a romantic relationship

514
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: is the final goal. And I'm saying this as well

515
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: as someone who has entered a relationship that fingers crossed

516
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: is you know, gonna gonna go the lot the full road.

517
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: But I do remember in my twenties thinking that I

518
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: was never going to meet someone.

519
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: There was definitely a point.

520
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: That I absolutely was like, oh shit, there's like I

521
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: don't actually think I'm ever gonna get ma read or

522
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 2: meet anyone that's like a life partner because it's just

523
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: not gonna happen to me.

524
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: But and there's a big butt to this. I actually

525
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: was okay with that because.

526
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: When I looked around, I was like, I have so

527
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: many amazing friends and by that I mean three, yeah,

528
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: you know I had at that point and still have

529
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: three really really fucking amazing best friends that I was like,

530
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: that's okay, like that these are my life partners.

531
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Speaker 1: Like I didn't.

532
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: I realized I didn't need that one romantic relationship to

533
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: feel as though my relationships with other people CUP was

534
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: full because obviously we use the term relationship and we

535
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: reserve it only for romantic relationships and not necessarily for

536
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: platonic Yeah, and we are definitely moving away from this again.

537
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: This is something that we're celebrating more, Like more and more,

538
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm seeing more interviews and books and including ours, and

539
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: you know, articles about the joy and importance and beauty

540
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: of platonic and female friendships and just friendships as a

541
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: whole that I'm like we don't need to strive for

542
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: this one thing to be like, yay, did it? Yeah, Dan,

543
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: Like that's not the big gold trophy on the top

544
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: of a mountain, to be like you are now deemed

545
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: worthy because you are in a partnership with.

546
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: Someone and you sometimes have sex.

547
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's that's the difference, you know, like between

548
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: your friends and a romantic relationship. One has desire and

549
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: you know, a sexual esque nature to it, not including

550
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, asexual relationships of course, But and I'm just like,

551
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm just so so happy that this is getting the

552
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: time in the sun that it is because it's still

553
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: a narrative that's pushed, but.

554
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: It's becoming one that we're unlearning. Yeah, what do you think.

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00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: I think that that's how people end up settling for

556
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: less when they feel like they have to have a partner.

557
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: But I think it also goes the same for friendships too,

558
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: like when people feel like they have to have a

559
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: huge group of friends or they have to have a

560
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: best friend. You actually don't need any of these things

561
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: as long as you have a good relationship with yourself,

562
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: and then the relationships that you find with other people,

563
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: they don't have to fit any sort of mold. Yeah,

564
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: it's just whatever feels right to you. And I do

565
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 3: think that having supportive friendships is a huge part of that.

566
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: But that could be a group of ten people that

567
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: you've known since high school, or it could be one

568
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: person literally's okay.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing as well, is like, even getting

570
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: into a relationship that then didn't become the priority over

571
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: you know, my friendship with you, it didn't lessen it.

572
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, thanks for your time, great

573
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: work over the.

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00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: Last five years. Ten out of ten.

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Speaker 2: Good Now, thanks, thanks babe, here's your resignation.

576
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

577
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: That it's still like even when I was, you know,

578
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: getting into this relationship, it was like, just so you know,

579
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: this person is also the love of my life.

580
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: I was saving like, hey, hey, mawn, I've seen many

581
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: of you over the years. You think you're gonna stick around, bitch? No,

582
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: I was like, please stick grunt, and you're like, I

583
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: like you. You're the only one I've ever liked. But yeah,

584
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: it also doesn't lessen the ones that you do have.

585
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so wholesome, wholesome bitch, let's make out holes a

586
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: bitch holds a bitch all right, Well, is that a rap?

587
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: It is a rap. That is a rap. I would

588
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: love to.

589
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: Know all the things that chicks think we need to

590
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: unlearn in their twenties. So tell us in the comments

591
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: on Spotify socials, d m us all that fun.

592
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: Send us a pigeon, Send us pigeon Pitge.

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00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Okay, we got big site story, No we can't. There

594
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: was a lady at Bondi Junction who lost her pet pigeon,

595
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: and she made a post in Facebook and I saw

596
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: it and it made me sad. So I had to

597
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: bring Sail down with me, and so I sent her

598
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: the post and they never found Pitge, and.

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00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: So it's a really they found page. They found pitche Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank god. He was so cute. He was really cute.

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Speaker 1: He was the only pigeon I've ever trusted. The other

602
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: pigeons I'm not quite sure about. No, I like them.

603
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: I feel bad for pigeons. I feel bad for pigeons.

604
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: They were brought into a world when we needed them,

605
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: and then cast aside when we decided we didn't. Damn

606
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: the man anyway. That is a RAF on today's episode.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Cheeks for having us in your

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Speaker 2: ear holes. We love it to be here and shout

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00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: out to m ak Made for making this episode of

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Speaker 2: Two Broke Happened, Bye Bye.

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Speaker 1: The Fat has a Fat s