Speaker 1: Better than Lego, better than Leo position chance gooda.
Speaker 2: It's Mobbsy here and if you're listening to this episode
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Speaker 2: Cooper Kronk for the next three weeks while Mattie is
Speaker 2: in Paris and we're going to get into it the
Speaker 2: run up to the finals everything NRL. Welcome on the
Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph NRL podcast. Adam Mobs here and Pam Whaley.
Speaker 2: I'll go to you first, because not only was it
Speaker 2: round twenty one in the NRL, which you've just reminded
Speaker 2: me of.
Speaker 1: Nerl W week one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, we had a couple of upsets as well.
Speaker 4: Paramatta, you'll be very happy to see a really good win.
Speaker 1: We're back, baby, Ye're back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. It was great to see it
Speaker 3: back in connection.
Speaker 2: And if we're ever invaded, I want the Newcastle Knights
Speaker 2: defending our homeland because their defense against the Roosters the
Speaker 2: other night unbelievable.
Speaker 4: I know. Yeah, that was a really good game. Actually,
Speaker 4: it was a great way to open it up. But yeah,
Speaker 4: excited to get into it all again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait and Fatima to do. Welcome.
Speaker 5: Hi, you're raiders, My raiders back. They're back, baby, they
Speaker 5: were never really gone.
Speaker 2: Why why didn't you just let me know you started? Okay,
Speaker 2: I can't be held.
Speaker 5: Accountable with the Eels in your top eight Ladder predictor
Speaker 5: er or w Okay, we'll give you that, at least
Speaker 5: in the neral w the title dream is still.
Speaker 1: Alive, Yeah, very much.
Speaker 2: So you think you can insult me after Paramatta fell
Speaker 2: off the radar about eight weeks ago. It doesn't happen,
Speaker 2: but we had a lot to get through because there
Speaker 2: are a lot I don't know about you. Whenever someone
Speaker 2: says mathematically we can make it, you know that. I
Speaker 2: think there's from now on, I'm declaring it. The Broncos
Speaker 2: cannot make the eight, will not make the eight from here.
Speaker 5: Well, if you think about you know, people saying mathematically
Speaker 5: their magic number thirty two, they've got to buy in hand.
Speaker 5: But they also need to win all five games, and
Speaker 5: I don't know whether after seeing them against Canterbury, even
Speaker 5: with a full strength team, I don't know whether that's
Speaker 5: you know, whether they're capable of that. Unfortunately, for the Broncos,
Speaker 5: who if they don't make it, will by far be
Speaker 5: the biggest disappointment of this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to make the eight. And the
Speaker 2: Bulldogs blew them off the park. They were unbelievable and
Speaker 2: Brisbane everything that play for and the same criticism that's
Speaker 2: been placed on these guys for the last six or
Speaker 2: eight weeks was they're sitting around waiting for something to happen.
Speaker 1: And Okay, now.
Speaker 2: We've got Adam Reynolds back, We've got middles like Pat
Speaker 2: Carrigan and Payne Hess and we've got this undersized Cannoby
Speaker 2: pack we're up against. We're just going to roll through them.
Speaker 2: They look like they sat back again waiting for something
Speaker 2: to happen, and they cannot cop enough criticism, I think
Speaker 2: for the lack of this resilience, the lack of determination
Speaker 2: to Yeah, as we're seeing. If you're not watching us
Speaker 2: on YouTube, go and have a look at some of
Speaker 2: these highlights where the Broncos are letting the ball bounce,
Speaker 2: they're not first to it. There's no urgency in their play.
Speaker 2: The Bulldogs wanted everything on top of them and the
Speaker 2: Broncos got what they deserved.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, especially after last week.
Speaker 4: Obviously, they beat Newcastle last week and that was kind
Speaker 4: of the start of I think Kevin wal just said
Speaker 4: in the press conference after that, you know we've only
Speaker 4: just we haven't kicked it. We haven't gone through the
Speaker 4: fence yet. We're just starting to kick it down. But
Speaker 4: and then to be at home, a packed crowd, everything
Speaker 4: to play for their pride, their season, everything, and then.
Speaker 3: They were just flat.
Speaker 4: And that's just not really a good enough explanation, is it,
Speaker 4: Like why were they flat?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well maybe make any sense?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know. I wonder if they dave brought
Speaker 5: in too much into this side that they do have,
Speaker 5: you know, individual brilliance and strike all over the park
Speaker 5: into what mobs he were saying, just waiting for an
Speaker 5: individual to do something, to come up with, you know,
Speaker 5: Rees Walsh to come up with a play that flips
Speaker 5: the script a little bit. But it never happened, and
Speaker 5: they were flat and they were beaten through the middle.
Speaker 5: And what I found really interesting is a lot of
Speaker 5: people spoke about this after watching Canterbury. Canbary had a
Speaker 5: game plan to shift the ball and really target their
Speaker 5: edges and it was obvious that that's what they were
Speaker 5: doing from the get go, but somehow the Broncos didn't
Speaker 5: adjust on the run to that and I think that
Speaker 5: says a lot about and Kevin Walters has mentioned that
Speaker 5: a little bit and the lack of the inability to
Speaker 5: execute his game plans. So if they haven't been able
Speaker 5: to do it during the week, they were never going
Speaker 5: to be able to adjust on the run against Canbury.
Speaker 5: I mean, Catony Saggs had a dig. He's probably at
Speaker 5: everybody there. You could say, you know, he probably deserves
Speaker 5: a bit of credit from that game. But yeah, they're
Speaker 5: just and I think the biggest they were so good
Speaker 5: attacking wise last year that the fact that they weren't
Speaker 5: the best side defensively really went under the radar. And
Speaker 5: I think Canterbury, who haven't been the best attacking team
Speaker 5: so far this year, really exposed them. So there's a
Speaker 5: lot of work I reckon to go at the Broncos
Speaker 5: and I sort of like touched on it in the
Speaker 5: tackle yesterday. If you look at how Penrith responded to
Speaker 5: losing the twenty twenty Grand Final, it wasn't enough for
Speaker 5: them to just rely on the talent they had in
Speaker 5: their team, and at the time it was stuck with
Speaker 5: gun talent coming through, they doubled down, they worked harder,
Speaker 5: They were the fittest team in the competition. They worked
Speaker 5: on their defense and they went onto three premierships. And
Speaker 5: it just looks like the Broncos haven't been willing to
Speaker 5: put in that hard work this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, for mine, this Cannobury performance is textbook Camon Serudo
Speaker 2: identifying and exploiting weaknesses in defenses. He did it a
Speaker 2: lot at Penrith and the players brought into what he
Speaker 2: was doing there. You see here he said that those
Speaker 2: edges that they targeted the entire time, those block runners
Speaker 2: and the cutting in Jacob Karraz, what a season he's
Speaker 2: having and what are really I think he's he's he's
Speaker 2: almost one of the he's got to be sort of
Speaker 2: first pick kind of guy. He's so important to what
Speaker 2: they do there and the way he's sprung out of
Speaker 2: the ground because you saw when you know, the Bulldogs
Speaker 2: bought in Bronze and Cherry and they've you know, Blake
Speaker 2: Taff came around kind of tracy and we didn't know
Speaker 2: where everybody was going to sit.
Speaker 1: You've got young Blake.
Speaker 2: Wilson, who's who's a good young player and carraz has
Speaker 2: been named on the wing plenty of times and switched
Speaker 2: to the centers. But I think he's he's really come
Speaker 2: out of his skin this season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely pressed pressed big time good coaching, isn't it.
Speaker 4: It's just really if they don't have they're not exactly
Speaker 4: a superstar team, Like if you compare them to the Broncos,
Speaker 4: they're not, you know, stacked full of sip stars. But
Speaker 4: they've got so many gutsy players and I think I
Speaker 4: remember at the start of the year, we were talking
Speaker 4: about the size of the Bulldogs pack and who's the
Speaker 4: who's the big leader there in that pack, and they're
Speaker 4: probably sure, you know, a big, big prop or and
Speaker 4: speaking to the Bulldog about that, they were like, well,
Speaker 4: we just have a bunch of players who are real gutsy,
Speaker 4: got a lot of mongrel in us, and we're just
Speaker 4: going to attack as a as a unit. We're smaller,
Speaker 4: we yeah, we're mobile, and that's just going to be
Speaker 4: our identity and that's what they've kind of made.
Speaker 5: Yes, Sarah Sarah was on the radio this morning actually,
Speaker 5: and he spoke a little bit about the attacking plan
Speaker 5: he had and he actually gave all the credit to
Speaker 5: Jason Taylor, who's been an addition to his coaching staff
Speaker 5: this year, and he sort of said he was the one,
Speaker 5: or he's the one who's sort of been responsible in
Speaker 5: putting together our attacking plans and sending that message to
Speaker 5: the players every week. So he gave him a lot
Speaker 5: of credit for that. But I think the biggest talking
Speaker 5: point out of that which we've missed on is they
Speaker 5: did that without Stephen Crichton, And I think that's a
Speaker 5: really important thing to touch on because there's no doubt
Speaker 5: he's been so influential for them this year. He's out,
Speaker 5: Jil Skelton comes in. You know. It's that next man
Speaker 5: mentality that maybe in the past because they lacked depth
Speaker 5: in their roster, they haven't been able to achieve out.
Speaker 5: Stephen Crichton sits out and you can bring in someone
Speaker 5: like Jeras Skelton, who I don't remember what he finished with,
Speaker 5: but I think two hundred plus run meters, you know,
Speaker 5: and again, just another guy who shows he can be
Speaker 5: an NRL, but they've got so much depth that he's
Speaker 5: stuck in reserve grade.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Travis Main had a story up last week
Speaker 2: that the Broncos have had to put on extra security
Speaker 2: and put fences up to stop the fans getting getting
Speaker 2: to them. You might want to put it up even
Speaker 2: higher fences because they deserve to come at you after
Speaker 2: that weekend's performance.
Speaker 1: That was terrible.
Speaker 5: Wasn't there a season where fans started chucking wooden spirons?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: They might need some to put my one sea bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah they had that as well.
Speaker 2: All ye, So look top eights, I think if you agree,
Speaker 2: I think seven of the eight teams that are currently
Speaker 2: in the I think the top seven teams will be
Speaker 2: in the top eight this year.
Speaker 1: I've got obviously the.
Speaker 2: Storm, Panthers, Roosters, Sharks, there Canterbury, North, Queensland Manly and
Speaker 2: then for my on twenty four points you have the Dolphins, Raiders, Dragons,
Speaker 2: and then two points behind that you have the Knights
Speaker 2: and then the Warriors. But I can't see the Warriors
Speaker 2: making from there.
Speaker 1: I've got it in a race.
Speaker 2: I've got four spaces for that one final final spot.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's about right. I don't think there'll
Speaker 5: be too much movement from six and upwards. I think
Speaker 5: the Dolphins are probably having another late season. Bay They really,
Speaker 5: really really should have won against the titles.
Speaker 1: They should have won a week ago. They should have won.
Speaker 2: They'd be four points clear, they'd be twenty eight points.
Speaker 2: Wayne bennett genius Finals campaign before he goes to South
Speaker 2: Paramounta might have dodged a bullet here with Bennett.
Speaker 1: They can't finish a season.
Speaker 5: They can't finish a season.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 5: So yeah, I tend to agree with that. But unsurprisingly
Speaker 5: when I did my Verter predictor, the eighth spot went
Speaker 5: to and rough me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, PM and I've got equal Yeah, we were the
Speaker 2: same team here.
Speaker 4: I have the Nights in eighth. Yeah, I've got the
Speaker 4: Dragons finishing on thirty two points in ninth, and then
Speaker 4: the Warriors tenth, Broncos eleventh, and the O the Dolphins
Speaker 4: dropping out, They've got they do have a rough end
Speaker 4: to the year.
Speaker 1: I like the Dolphins me too.
Speaker 4: Me too, But yeah, just over the weekend, they should
Speaker 4: have closed this game out against the Titans. The Titans really, yeah,
Speaker 4: just kept fighting for it, didn't they.
Speaker 3: They just wanted it.
Speaker 1: A little bit of the team.
Speaker 2: That usually gives up leads the Gold Coast and they
Speaker 2: keep fighting and des has of all the critics this season.
Speaker 1: This is a big win. But where was this side
Speaker 1: that was?
Speaker 2: This song was eight mil up over mainly last week,
Speaker 2: then capitulated fourteen meal down here and fought their way back.
Speaker 1: How are you supposed to win a tipping company? Seriously?
Speaker 3: I know, well, I don't think any of us are.
Speaker 5: Are we not this year?
Speaker 3: Not this year?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: They had everything to play for here, the Dolphins, this
Speaker 2: is their finals hopes. On the long lawyer said, they've
Speaker 2: got a tough run home going from here. And in
Speaker 2: that slew of teams a couple of weeks ago, they
Speaker 2: was sort of fifth and sixth and all they need
Speaker 2: to do was just get a couple of wins up
Speaker 2: to get to your thirty two points. I haven't got
Speaker 2: them there. They were one of my big disappointments from
Speaker 2: the weekend. Then I thought Kronulla were disappointing. I think
Speaker 2: their edge defense was pretty ordinary and they got shown
Speaker 2: up again. You know, even the return of Niko Hines
Speaker 2: isn't going to fix that. Do you have them finishing
Speaker 2: I still had them finishing fourth. I don't say they're
Speaker 2: fifth for mine. I don't know how I was trying
Speaker 2: to manipulate a way I was doing that ladder predicted
Speaker 2: to try and get either the Bulldogs or Cowboys up
Speaker 2: into that top four because I love that stat of
Speaker 2: the team that finishes outside the year before finishes in
Speaker 2: the top four that next season.
Speaker 1: But owing to their.
Speaker 2: Cruisy draw on the way home and the points have
Speaker 2: already got banked. But then again, if they don't start
Speaker 2: lifting their game, the Sharks, they may struggle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, struggle ruggling in the finals.
Speaker 5: Yeah they will. I mean they've won one game since
Speaker 5: round fourteen, I think it is so no sorry, two
Speaker 5: games since round fourteen, so they're definitely not in form
Speaker 5: at the moment. Obviously, the work that they did at
Speaker 5: the start of the year has helped them stay in
Speaker 5: the top four, but you know, they do have a
Speaker 5: softish run home other than their last round game against
Speaker 5: the Seagulls, who are also finding a bit of form.
Speaker 5: So I worry if the ty sorry that the Sharks,
Speaker 5: it's just a bit of a groundhog day for them
Speaker 5: coming into the finals a bit too soft and not
Speaker 5: really being able to test themselves against the two best
Speaker 5: teams in the competition in Penrith and the Storm, which
Speaker 5: I think even though we're talking about how tight the
Speaker 5: latter is. I really don't think outside of those two
Speaker 5: there are any genuine title contenders at the moment.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think Nathan Clear is returned. I don't
Speaker 2: think Penrith rest players towards end of the Sea. I
Speaker 2: think they've rested them post origin. I think Nathan coming
Speaker 2: back from mine, I think they go through the way
Speaker 2: they are and they just keep winning games.
Speaker 1: And Clear he was outstanding the Melbourne Storm. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was watching this through biased eyes against the Eels
Speaker 2: the other night when they Paramatta gifted them a couple
Speaker 2: of tries. They didn't have the possession or the field position,
Speaker 2: they weren't tackled inside the Eels twenty and let's yet
Speaker 2: somehow they led in that first half and Munster being back,
Speaker 2: he'll get better. I just for the better performance for
Speaker 2: me at the weekend was Panthers. And if I was
Speaker 2: a betting man, I couldn't have enough on Penrith winning
Speaker 2: that fourth title because obviously I think you're going to
Speaker 2: top two finish for the Storm home final, won't have
Speaker 2: to travel to Sydney if you keep winning until Grand Final.
Speaker 2: So owing to that saloon passage, that they'vent themselves. They
Speaker 2: can be there, but yeah, still haven't been proven that
Speaker 2: anyone can live up to Penrith's expectations at the moment.
Speaker 5: James Susha Harris did pick up a growing maybe an
Speaker 5: abductor injury in that game, so it'd be interesting to
Speaker 5: see how serious that is. Obviously they did it again
Speaker 5: without Dylan Edwards is still out with a with a
Speaker 5: PCL injury. But yeah, they just look right now, they
Speaker 5: just look streaks ahead of anybody else.
Speaker 4: I'm never going to count out in Melbourne though. I
Speaker 4: just think that that's a folly to do that.
Speaker 2: I'm just angry after they beat Pamatta the other night.
Speaker 2: They're gonna bounce angry at all. Yeah it's all their fault.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, I mean you saw the week before
Speaker 2: what they did the roosters as well, you know, and
Speaker 2: these are these are supposed to be the contenders. So
Speaker 2: you know, the Storm just keep doing what they do.
Speaker 2: They keep winning. But I just I just want them
Speaker 2: to prove that they can do that against that they've
Speaker 2: got that. I want to see they've got that next
Speaker 2: level to go to, which Penwuth seemed to me a
Speaker 2: lot there.
Speaker 1: They really do have there.
Speaker 3: So they just look like they have so much fun,
Speaker 3: don't they?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is just it really is just fun for them.
Speaker 2: I want you to tell me which games your Raiders
Speaker 2: are winning getting the top eight. Let's get through the
Speaker 2: Bill Moore Sports Ground Bulldogs next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got them winning that. I do. Okay, home
Speaker 1: game against mainly the week after.
Speaker 5: I think I got there. I think I had them
Speaker 5: losing that one.
Speaker 1: Mainly don't travel well.
Speaker 2: But okay, right Country Bank Stadium Careboys round twenty.
Speaker 5: Four, Sorry, can we go back? I had them winning
Speaker 5: against Manley and then lowsing to the Cows at home
Speaker 5: right sorry, in North Queisia.
Speaker 2: So you've obviously got them beating the Panthers the following
Speaker 2: week at Joe. I don't have you got them beating
Speaker 2: the Roosters the following week. I do.
Speaker 1: You've got them beating the Roosters.
Speaker 5: We've got to win some games.
Speaker 2: And last round Dragons Raiders. That's huge, that could that
Speaker 2: could be a top eighter side and that could be the.
Speaker 5: Top eight decider. But I've got them winning that well.
Speaker 2: I had It's and Georgia Lawara in around the eight.
Speaker 2: If their performance at the weekend was better the Dragons.
Speaker 2: I mean, if they finished ninth, which is kind of
Speaker 2: what I've gone imagine, I think that's that's a.
Speaker 1: Past mark, but at ninth as well.
Speaker 2: Actually this close as Dragons fans having had a really
Speaker 2: bad run for the last few years, what do you
Speaker 2: where do you put your finger on it?
Speaker 4: I think that is I think Dragons fans would be
Speaker 4: fairly happy with the improvement that they've seen this year.
Speaker 3: Would you? Would you agree?
Speaker 1: You do know what Dragons fans are like.
Speaker 5: Right, No?
Speaker 4: I think that I think there is there's signs of
Speaker 4: that those days are kind of over and that there
Speaker 4: is a new kind of eerror under Shane Flanagan. Obviously
Speaker 4: the weekend was not great.
Speaker 3: But I mean it's Penrith too.
Speaker 4: I think they will have a dig in these last
Speaker 4: in these last couple of rounds, I've got them winning
Speaker 4: a couple of games.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Obviously Shane Flanagan made that big call to
Speaker 2: act Tyrle Sloan. He'm not happy with his defense and
Speaker 2: again there's probably a few that could have joined him
Speaker 2: on from this weekend and you know they have mixed
Speaker 2: their former bit this year. The Dragons where yeah, they
Speaker 2: can lose a big buy a big score, then they
Speaker 2: can grind out a solid win the week after. So
Speaker 2: you know, Flano's got that ability to get their minds
Speaker 2: back on the job. But I don't know where they
Speaker 2: go from here because I thought ben Hunt had a
Speaker 2: I thought he had a poor game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he did have a poor game, and
Speaker 5: that was probably I mean, I was going to say
Speaker 5: that was indifference. It isn't. I don't think even if
Speaker 5: ben Hunt had a blinder, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 5: that would have been enough to help them get past Penrith,
Speaker 5: But I think when he's a little bit off, I
Speaker 5: mean Zach Lmacks was a little bit quiet after I
Speaker 5: think he moved to fall back early in the game.
Speaker 5: So yeah, they're a bit of that that jeckl and
Speaker 5: High team where sometimes they look really good and you
Speaker 5: look at them and you go wow, like Shane Flangan's
Speaker 5: working miracles there, because you have to remember, I mean,
Speaker 5: I think it was a Mick Carryanis said they went
Speaker 5: into the season with the worst roster in the competition.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say that the worst rust in
Speaker 5: the competition, but on.
Speaker 1: Paper he said. I'm not agree with him. I just
Speaker 1: this is just what he said.
Speaker 5: So when you look at their team, I mean, you
Speaker 5: probably think they do need a couple of editions for
Speaker 5: next year to help them go to that next level.
Speaker 5: But to go from you know, deep in the bottom
Speaker 5: half of the ladder to in and around that finals conversation,
Speaker 5: I think that's a huge improvement for them.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Mick Carriyanas and adding players for next year,
Speaker 2: that's a nice seguey mix story from the weekend that
Speaker 2: Val Holmes has been granted permission to explore other opportunities.
Speaker 2: He's got twelve months ago and his Cowboys deal with
Speaker 2: worth about nine hundred massive coin the dragons in the
Speaker 2: frame for him.
Speaker 1: Thoughts, is this a life a.
Speaker 5: Zach Climax replacement thinking type?
Speaker 1: I don't know, so.
Speaker 5: How much, I mean, I guess it depends on how
Speaker 5: much you know the Cowboys are footing the bill and
Speaker 5: how long the deal is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think they do have a couple of good outside backs,
Speaker 5: you know, waiting in the lower grades and then the
Speaker 5: junior reps coming through. I wonder if you add someone
Speaker 5: like our homes I know he's you know, probably towards
Speaker 5: the latter years of his career. I don't know whether
Speaker 5: I don't know. I would sort of be backing backing
Speaker 5: the future as opposed to, you know, somebody like our Homes.
Speaker 5: But obviously Shane Flanagan and our Homes have history together
Speaker 5: from their time at the Sharks. So I have no
Speaker 5: doubt he will do whatever job is required of him
Speaker 5: under Flannagan.
Speaker 3: But you know what, do you think? Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: think he's no.
Speaker 5: I was just going to say, when you've got kids
Speaker 5: like Celio Tomali waiting to.
Speaker 1: Come throughs bound.
Speaker 5: Well everyone keeps saying, but you know, so, it's interesting.
Speaker 5: They've got a good crop of outside backs. It's just
Speaker 5: interesting that they would recruit on top of them with
Speaker 5: somebody like vour Homes.
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, he hasn't He obviously
Speaker 4: hasn't had the best season. I don't think this year.
Speaker 4: In the last couple of years, he's been a bit
Speaker 4: up and down. But on his day he's very good.
Speaker 4: So if one who thinks he can get the best
Speaker 4: out of him in the last couple of seasons, it'd.
Speaker 3: Be nice to see him playing his best again. Maybe
Speaker 3: he needs a.
Speaker 1: Change, maybe he does. But if I'm the Dragons.
Speaker 2: To your point, if I've got if I'm not prioritizing
Speaker 2: young guys like Civilia Tamale coming through, if I don't
Speaker 2: think he's the right thing, no offense to our homes
Speaker 2: had a great career, He's coming off a stinker of
Speaker 2: a season.
Speaker 1: He's twenty nine years old, he's on nine hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: A year, and the only plus for me out of
Speaker 2: this would be what Shane Flanagan can do as far
Speaker 2: as increase the player's performance. I don't think it's a
Speaker 2: great signing for the Dragons. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5: I don't hate it, but I don't love it either,
Speaker 5: not when they've got like Tamali, when they've got like
Speaker 5: Si Fin Now when they've got a kick called Jesse
Speaker 5: Williams coming through, who are all doing really well and impressing.
Speaker 5: So it just sort of doesn't make sense to me,
Speaker 5: especially if you're trying to build to the future.
Speaker 3: It's not going to save him, right, that's not going
Speaker 3: to be their big change.
Speaker 2: Does it have all the hallmarks of Oh, he's signed
Speaker 2: a four year deal and the last months of it,
Speaker 2: all the Dragon fans are up an arms saying we're
Speaker 2: overpaying for this guy, We're not getting a performance. That's
Speaker 2: my feel, and I'm being brutally honest because you know,
Speaker 2: twelve months ago he was playing good football, and even
Speaker 2: though the Cowboys are going pretty well this year, I
Speaker 2: don't think he's had a great year even.
Speaker 5: If he was playing good football. Is he worth nine
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the decision to make, so we'll see what
Speaker 2: they do with that. But a bit of market watch
Speaker 2: news going on because the West Tigers confirmed this morning
Speaker 2: that Stefano Utoi Kamano is leaving.
Speaker 3: Still no confirmation where he's going.
Speaker 5: He might not know where he's going, you reckon he doesn't.
Speaker 5: Well there's you know, Canonby's sort of been in and
Speaker 5: out and now they're in again. The Dolphins had an
Speaker 5: offer on the table, but as I understand, he rejected
Speaker 5: that offer. But I'm not sure Canary have actually tabled
Speaker 5: a physical offer to him yet. They've had conversations with him.
Speaker 5: And it's a similar story for Melbourne. He's sort of,
Speaker 5: you know, a high priority, but they have to move
Speaker 5: things around to make it happen. Nelson is so for
Speaker 5: Solomona's only know in the last twenty four hours come
Speaker 5: out and said, I've seen all the talk, but I'm
Speaker 5: sort of not going anywhere, and Melbourne have had a
Speaker 5: hard time trying to move him to other clubs, so
Speaker 5: and you know, I guess that would come with a
Speaker 5: warning to every other club. If Melbourne's trying to move Nelson,
Speaker 5: you know, you're probably asking why they're doing that. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, maybe he's got an idea of where he
Speaker 5: might like to end up, but I don't know how
Speaker 5: many genuine offers, physical offers he actually has on the
Speaker 5: table right now.
Speaker 1: Wull we go to the Bulldogs.
Speaker 2: Seems like a pretty easy He's got a young family,
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like he wants to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Go to the Bulldogs.
Speaker 2: Team on the up, need a big middle You've got
Speaker 2: a style of play that seems to be bearing fruit
Speaker 2: at the moment. That seems like it seems pretty easy
Speaker 2: for me. If he wants to stay in Sydney and
Speaker 2: they've got the money in the bank, don't they to
Speaker 2: pay So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, seems a pretty good fit for me. But he's
Speaker 4: got options there for sure. That's imagine him at Melbourne.
Speaker 4: Yeah what Sean Boors don't Melbourne?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys that just go down there and improve
Speaker 2: out of a really good system. And that's probably more
Speaker 2: point about Canterburdge. Isn't that what came Soud was doing
Speaker 2: there at the club at the moment? Good system players
Speaker 2: really enjoying their footy, which is what you were saying
Speaker 2: before about, you know, with Penrith. So yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: That's what I'd be looking through. And the other interesting
Speaker 2: one Daniel Tupo, no retirement, two more years.
Speaker 3: Two more years.
Speaker 4: Well, he's still He's still killing it, isn't he. He's
Speaker 4: just kind of evergreen. He just seems like he always
Speaker 4: has been and he always will be. He just keeps
Speaker 4: keeps tracking on.
Speaker 5: I feel like he has an aged one bit in
Speaker 5: the last ten years, that's what you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Like he just hasn't lost you, don't You know how
Speaker 5: players get to the end of their career and you
Speaker 5: sort of see them sewing down a bit, but none
Speaker 5: of that orders he now, isn't he thirty?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's a two year dealer as.
Speaker 2: Well, which obviously losing Joseph Kuso, Sali and Joey Marno,
Speaker 2: although many might be back to me next year.
Speaker 1: Anyway. So it's just it's reliable reliability there for you
Speaker 1: at the Roosters. And you know, we.
Speaker 2: Know that Nik Polaitis loves his one club players. He
Speaker 2: loves the guys that put in and two po one
Speaker 2: of the nice guys in the league.
Speaker 1: So I think that'll be. Yeah, that's a good result.
Speaker 3: He's had a great career, hasn't he.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even he has just been so good for so long,
Speaker 4: presentative player.
Speaker 5: Everything kids from it's from Auburn, who's one club player
Speaker 5: in bond Still I think he does?
Speaker 1: Yeah, want to remove the eastern suburbs.
Speaker 2: Or something I wanted to bring up that I was
Speaker 2: brought up to me on the weekend was Trijan to
Speaker 2: lie still going ahead. We're seeing lots of try celebrations
Speaker 2: post try celebrations, but I didn't expect to see this
Speaker 2: at the weekend.
Speaker 1: Was Matt Hardy, former WWE wrestler.
Speaker 2: Still, I mean, I'm kid in a Kenny store with
Speaker 2: this because wrestling and rugby league to my great loves.
Speaker 2: He spotted or had it shown to him the try
Speaker 2: celebration for Ronaldo Multalo, which happened to look a little bit.
Speaker 1: This is his brother, Jeff Hardy for seeing the video.
Speaker 2: This is how Jeff Hardy does his entrance music comes
Speaker 2: out waving his arms round and when mul Talo crossed
Speaker 2: over against the Cowboys, he stood up and looked like
Speaker 2: he was doing something very similar. So Matt Hardy had
Speaker 2: seen it and then went and copied it. Shortly after,
Speaker 2: we had another try by kle Ero and it looked
Speaker 2: a little bit like DX Shaw Michael's Triple H Days,
Speaker 2: which is the If you're not down with d X,
Speaker 2: I've got two words for you.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to repeat me here because we're a
Speaker 1: family podcast.
Speaker 2: But when you've got a WWE superstar, a wrestling superstar
Speaker 2: showing highlights to is one half million followers on or
Speaker 2: Twitter or whatever, they it's still cool.
Speaker 1: Oh that was very cool. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 4: It must be a bit of a they love the wrestling,
Speaker 4: their chronoledge and they do. Was it someone did the
Speaker 4: People's Elbow was a year?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well I think ye was it last year or I
Speaker 3: think yeah? So yeah that went pretty viral too. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 5: Nothing about wrestling, I said Tom when we're talking about
Speaker 5: the Multila celebration, I was like, oh, yeah, that that
Speaker 5: we danced that he did and was like, it's actually.
Speaker 4: I'm sure all our listeners, Yeah, surely that man is
Speaker 4: a bit of extra cash considering it's gone international.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sports, but.
Speaker 5: Maybe add a little bit to the pot since it's
Speaker 5: all for a good cause. But there's been some good
Speaker 5: one like it's good to see everybody sort of getting
Speaker 5: into it this year. So, I mean some try celebrations
Speaker 5: are probably a bit of work.
Speaker 1: It's all for charity, for charity, for charity.
Speaker 4: There were some good ones in the NLW. Actually, over
Speaker 4: the weekend Olympics themed ones, there was lots of rowing
Speaker 4: and things like that was the one on was.
Speaker 2: The one on Thursday night? Was the was it the camera?
Speaker 2: Was it the Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And the sniper sniper?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 5: Harry Grant did the AFL oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: That made me even angrier grinding teeth at that point.
Speaker 3: Rough weekend, Most of.
Speaker 1: Them are rough weekends.
Speaker 2: Although I enjoyed that Thursday night game, I thought the
Speaker 2: Sydney Roosters were disappointing the second half. I thought they
Speaker 2: had all the play for and the Knights just shut
Speaker 2: them down. The Knights had them covered. I don't think
Speaker 2: they threw enough. Adam in attack. They went down that
Speaker 2: right side a lot and Jess Surgis was basically, here,
Speaker 2: go try and get us the win. They got themselves
Speaker 2: back into that game, but that Knight's defense that just
Speaker 2: kept coming and coming was unbelievable. There's very little doubt
Speaker 2: as to why they're Premiership fatu.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know they're so physical. They're really hard to
Speaker 4: get through obviously. But yeah, the Roosters, I think without
Speaker 4: Cormyn as well, that's a huge loss for them, and
Speaker 4: they won't have Sam Bremna for it. Might be this week,
Speaker 4: could be next week. I think they were going to
Speaker 4: give her a couple of weeks just to she's super
Speaker 4: fit rightly, so she came in. She hadn't done preseason.
Speaker 4: She's coming in. I think she broke a record in
Speaker 4: one of their fitness tests. So she's just an absolute beast.
Speaker 4: But she needs a contact. She needs to get like
Speaker 4: the contact.
Speaker 1: Remarkable.
Speaker 2: Having her on the coverage of the team's game on
Speaker 2: Thursday night with Lara Pitt and the crew that was
Speaker 2: that was just cool.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Knights. The Knights were great. Can you
Speaker 2: please give me some good news? Just tell me about
Speaker 2: the Eels. Just make sure I'm not making this up
Speaker 2: in my head.
Speaker 3: They were really good.
Speaker 2: Coming off the back of last season. That was what
Speaker 2: a performance.
Speaker 1: They had a.
Speaker 4: Dreadful season last year. There's no real two ways about it.
Speaker 4: They were awful. But they didn't have their half back
Speaker 4: for most of the year. They didn't have Elsie Albert,
Speaker 4: who is an absolute weapon, and they both made a
Speaker 4: huge difference to their team over the weekend. But we yeah,
Speaker 4: but to beat the Broncos as well, huge achievement. But
Speaker 4: they just seemed fit. Yeah, seemed really fit. Really mobiles
Speaker 4: that you know, off the back of Elsie's you know,
Speaker 4: huge runs. They just get so much, they get so
Speaker 4: much space and time. So yeah, and Rachel's kicking game
Speaker 4: is great. So yeah, it looks like much.
Speaker 2: Let's see, that's why she's my favorite. You start the
Speaker 2: sledging me and team just gives me makes.
Speaker 4: You feel Yeah, great Trava Julia Robins and she obviously
Speaker 4: a weapon too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: So another tough start to the year for the Broncos,
Speaker 4: though it's been a rough weekend.
Speaker 5: For the Broncos in general as a club in general,
Speaker 5: healing crisis.
Speaker 2: I love the Usain bolt. Yeah, celebration too. That was cool.
Speaker 3: That's cool, but.
Speaker 1: Especially after running ninety five meters for it as well.
Speaker 3: That was being on the end of that judicial news. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we saw the big well, I don't even know
Speaker 3: what you would call it.
Speaker 4: It wasn't really a melee because it was a punch thrown,
Speaker 4: but really disgraceful scene. So this was a hip drop
Speaker 4: tackle for him not watching this on YouTube, There was
Speaker 4: a Annetta Claudia Norsala did a bit of a hip
Speaker 4: drop tackle here on Reuben Sherrington and then Kennedy comes
Speaker 4: in pushes her off because that's her little sister, and
Speaker 4: then it starts this Annetta clocks her in the face.
Speaker 3: This disgraceful and then she gets pulled back by her
Speaker 3: ponytail from behind as well. It's just foul scenes. No
Speaker 3: one wants to see this.
Speaker 4: And I made the point today in the paper, like
Speaker 4: the NW is in this position at the moment.
Speaker 3: They're not professional yet.
Speaker 4: They need broadcast numbers, They need people to be tuning in,
Speaker 4: they need that to be able to go professional by
Speaker 4: the time the next you know, broadcast deal around in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight. This is not the way that you're
Speaker 4: going to get people to be watching the game, Like
Speaker 4: if you these players all the time are talking about,
Speaker 4: oh you know, we're role models for the next generation,
Speaker 4: and we really want to inspire the next generation.
Speaker 3: This is not it.
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's the reason why they clamp down on
Speaker 5: punching and fighting in the men's game, right, it's exactly product.
Speaker 5: You know, what's the word desirable to as many eyeballs
Speaker 5: as possible, And it's the same thing in the in
Speaker 5: the nrolw.
Speaker 4: Entertaining you can still be so that rivalry you can
Speaker 4: still have. It's still intense, it's still really physical without assault.
Speaker 4: So it's yeah, So Aneta, she was charged twice and
Speaker 4: she got charged for the hip drop and then also
Speaker 4: first striking, So she's looking at she's looking at six
Speaker 4: weeks in total, but with an early player before, so
Speaker 4: two weeks.
Speaker 2: Which is a massive chunk of the seas and two
Speaker 2: when you take that into considerations, that left yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going to come together with you on this one.
Speaker 2: The Raiders were very good in interal w and I'm
Speaker 2: not being it's not about me, but my favorite player.
Speaker 1: Some ihime are Talfa love her.
Speaker 2: Oh just gone, yeah, tough as nails. I was devastated
Speaker 2: when she left Paramatta. And yeah, they look good again.
Speaker 2: I think they're Yeah, it was at thirty two twelve
Speaker 2: over the Tigers, who didn't have a lot to cheer about.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think there they could be for a
Speaker 2: good season.
Speaker 1: The Raiders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had a pretty good season last year too,
Speaker 4: so they finished fifth last year. They were just outside
Speaker 4: of a semi final spot in their first year, which
Speaker 4: was pretty impressive.
Speaker 5: But I mean, they had an early surge last year,
Speaker 5: didn't they. I was I was like, oh, okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: I be onto something here, but yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 5: It was good to see. Hopefully they don't burn out
Speaker 5: this time around.
Speaker 4: What were some of those starts. I was looking at
Speaker 4: some of the starts from some of the other day,
Speaker 4: so she raped. It was something like she was up
Speaker 4: around one hundred and seventy meters or something like that,
Speaker 4: thirty six tackles or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, Yeah a try, she's so good. Oh and
Speaker 2: just yeah, looking at the highlights. We're just watching now
Speaker 2: that let's see if this moves up here. I just
Speaker 2: want to see if we're right on target here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just out we go the using the width, the
Speaker 2: way they go the right is they're good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I enjoyed first week.
Speaker 2: So please don't burst my Eels bubble next week because
Speaker 2: as per my ladder predictor, I don't have paramatunt of
Speaker 2: winning much before round twenty seven spoon Bowl against the Tigers.
Speaker 2: So you've got the winning spoinball, yeah, which will be Yeah,
Speaker 2: did you happen?
Speaker 1: Who do you happen? Around twenty seven?
Speaker 2: Umm?
Speaker 5: Oh maybe I did go the Eels winning spoinball.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I did too, depends how many more injuries Yeah,
Speaker 2: between now and.
Speaker 5: But I think if I didn't, they would have finished
Speaker 5: dead last. And I think psychologically I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: it feels odd to have power at the bottom of
Speaker 5: the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to say it's uncommon. But anyway, right,
Speaker 2: let's move on to everyone's favorite segment, what are you watching?
Speaker 2: Because I had a really good response from people who
Speaker 2: obviously don't they just suffer.
Speaker 1: Through our inneral GiB but just to get the what
Speaker 1: are we watching?
Speaker 2: Parts, So I'll let you guys go first, then I'll
Speaker 2: follow and lay with my disaster movies.
Speaker 5: I'm watching Homicide New York, which is true crime doco
Speaker 5: on Netflix and basically or each episode is a new
Speaker 5: sort of crime that they have to mostly murder that
Speaker 5: they know solve. Most of them are sort of in
Speaker 5: the eighties early nineties when there was like a massive
Speaker 5: crime wave in New York and it's super interesting. So
Speaker 5: it's based in Manhattan, but they're sort of split between
Speaker 5: North Homicide and South Homicide, so there's that rivalry between
Speaker 5: the two homicide squad and there's some fascinating cases that
Speaker 5: just really get you thinking and don't leave you. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I love a true crime documentary.
Speaker 4: As I've I've binged all of this too, absolutely love it.
Speaker 4: So it's like a they get all of the detectives
Speaker 4: that worked on these cases to explain it and then
Speaker 4: they it's shown as kind of like a show.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Law and Order, but it's real. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's really good.
Speaker 5: And my favorite ones are the ones sort of in
Speaker 5: the in the eighties because it's sort of before all
Speaker 5: the technology technological advancements in like you know, in police work,
Speaker 5: and so it's like old school police work, you know,
Speaker 5: and I love that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Is it like Shake par Altar in Brooklyn nine nine?
Speaker 2: You know, No, sorry, that's that's the extent of more
Speaker 2: TV cop shows.
Speaker 4: So I have recently finished I Am Selene Dion. This
Speaker 4: is on prime video, so just timely, very timely. So
Speaker 4: I watched it actually be a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4: I'm a huge Celandion fan, absolutely adore her. I think
Speaker 4: she's just what a great celebrity. She's so funny, she's
Speaker 4: so talented, she's just a queen, icon and legend and yeah,
Speaker 4: but this documentary was equal parts you know, funny and interesting,
Speaker 4: but it was devastating as well, just to see what.
Speaker 3: She's you know, what she's been.
Speaker 2: Through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so and then to see her I think I
Speaker 4: think it goes through about an hour and a half
Speaker 4: or so, but it's really really interesting, very heartfelt, and
Speaker 4: a bit distressing actually at times.
Speaker 3: So just a little bit of a warning.
Speaker 4: There, but just to it gives you some perspective of
Speaker 4: how incredible her moment was at the opening ceremony at
Speaker 4: the Olympics. What it took for her to actually get
Speaker 4: on stage and perform again amazing.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can watch it because it
Speaker 2: seems I've seen a couple of clips that seem really heavy,
Speaker 2: but yeah, from what she's had to go through.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I'll probably will to watch it now. He
Speaker 1: won me over.
Speaker 3: It's really good. It's very very good. He's the best.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 2: So last week I put out the call for disaster
Speaker 2: movie suggestions. Priller by the name of Tristan got in
Speaker 2: touch with me straight away and suggested Greenland, which I
Speaker 2: hadn't heard of before, which just bizarre because yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: Gerard Butler extinction level event basically has to get his
Speaker 2: family to safety as the Earth's about then, you know, did.
Speaker 3: You trust any other man to get your family to safety?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: I always used to get in trouble with my wife
Speaker 2: because any time we watching something I didn't really like,
Speaker 2: I'd say, you know what this movie needs. It needs
Speaker 2: Arnie coming in and cleaning house, just Schwartz and again,
Speaker 2: but Gerard Butler and Tristan, you bastard squeaky bum time.
Speaker 2: For about ninety minutes, my kids had their stomachs. They
Speaker 2: were so nervous throughout.
Speaker 1: The entire movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was too for something I hadn't heard of before,
Speaker 2: really really enjoyable, so talked about media was ready to
Speaker 2: just destroy Earth and you know, trying to live on
Speaker 2: through through that, trying to survive that, but also sort
Speaker 2: of the best and worst of humanity on the back
Speaker 2: of that, and it touches into that. And look, when
Speaker 2: when it comes to disaster movies, I think they're like pizzas.
Speaker 1: Even when they're bad, they're good.
Speaker 3: They're good.
Speaker 2: I love I love a good bad movie. So and
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: It's a good bad Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm having a crack at Trictian.
Speaker 2: But it's a good crack because there's yeah, there's good
Speaker 2: stuff to it as well.
Speaker 1: But someone who told me they.
Speaker 2: Haven't seen it Arcadian, it's a new Nick Cage film
Speaker 2: on stands. Let me know if anyone's seen if it's
Speaker 2: if that's worth it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, age, okay, so that's going to going to
Speaker 5: be a good bad movie as well.
Speaker 1: No, no, there's just good movies. When it's Nicholas, the
Speaker 1: greatest movie of all, I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Steal the Declaration of Independence. I could watch those movies
Speaker 2: all time. But the other ones were Twelve, which I've seen,
Speaker 2: San Andres the Rock. He fits in the same as
Speaker 2: Butler The Day the Earth was Still self. There's any
Speaker 2: other suggestions, let me know, but got me thinking about
Speaker 2: what have you guys seen the TV show on Netflix,
Speaker 2: The one hundred.
Speaker 3: No, it's I know what you mean, but I haven't
Speaker 3: watched it. Yes, that's it.
Speaker 2: About It's it is similar sort of planet Earth destroyed
Speaker 2: and there's the survivors are living on a spaceship basically.
Speaker 2: And I won't give a way too much meat, so
Speaker 2: much twist and turn happened from there.
Speaker 1: But Australian Bob Morley, Eliza Taylor, she.
Speaker 2: Was Janee on Neighbors years ago, and yeah, really enjoyable.
Speaker 2: So we watched that a couple of years ago. We've
Speaker 2: got me thinking about that. I might go and rewatch it.
Speaker 2: But that's that was quite good. I think you guys
Speaker 2: might enjoy that one. But if you have any other
Speaker 2: suggestions on disaster movies or anything else, please again Adam
Speaker 2: dot Mobs.
Speaker 1: At news dot com dot Au, because they were.
Speaker 2: Quite enjoyable watching Greenland, so and yeah, we'll do it
Speaker 2: a couple more of ours.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I enjoyed it that people listen to this podcast,
Speaker 4: but don't listen to it, just skip to the end
Speaker 4: to get out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I had no feedback on any of
Speaker 2: my crazy takes last week, it was all have you
Speaker 2: seen this?
Speaker 4: I get feedback onto a great show. Thank you for
Speaker 4: the recommendation, so we'll see how we go.
Speaker 1: All right, well that's us for this week.
Speaker 2: We need to go and find out which players again
Speaker 2: in which clubs and what's going on with this run
Speaker 2: home because there's plenty to do, so we'll do it
Speaker 2: again next week we will. Thanks guys, thanks for listening.
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