WEBVTT - 🏉 NRL Analysis - The Dogs of Four! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:11.400 Better than Lego, better than Leo position chance gooda. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.680 It's Mobbsy here and if you're listening to this episode 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.560 of the Daily Telegraph NRROL podcast in your Mattie John's 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.959 podcast feed, welcome. We're with you instead of Maddie and 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.200 Cooper Kronk for the next three weeks while Mattie is 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.759 in Paris and we're going to get into it the 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:36.479 run up to the finals everything NRL. Welcome on the 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.920 Daily Telegraph NRL podcast. Adam Mobs here and Pam Whaley. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.320 I'll go to you first, because not only was it 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.200 round twenty one in the NRL, which you've just reminded 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:46.519 me of. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:47.880 Nerl W week one. 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.960 Yeah, I know, we had a couple of upsets as well. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.840 Paramatta, you'll be very happy to see a really good win. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:56.280 We're back, baby, Ye're back. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.400 Yeah, so it was. It was great to see it 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:00.560 back in connection. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.400 And if we're ever invaded, I want the Newcastle Knights 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.520 defending our homeland because their defense against the Roosters the 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:08.120 other night unbelievable. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.160 I know. Yeah, that was a really good game. Actually, 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.880 it was a great way to open it up. But yeah, 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:15.560 excited to get into it all again. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.000 Yeah, I can't wait and Fatima to do. Welcome. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:23.160 Hi, you're raiders, My raiders back. They're back, baby, they 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:23.960 were never really gone. 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:31.640 Why why didn't you just let me know you started? Okay, 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:34.120 I can't be held. 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.119 Accountable with the Eels in your top eight Ladder predictor 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.280 er or w Okay, we'll give you that, at least 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.040 in the neral w the title dream is still. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.440 Alive, Yeah, very much. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.920 So you think you can insult me after Paramatta fell 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.720 off the radar about eight weeks ago. It doesn't happen, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.920 but we had a lot to get through because there 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.400 are a lot I don't know about you. Whenever someone 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.560 says mathematically we can make it, you know that. I 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.480 think there's from now on, I'm declaring it. The Broncos 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.720 cannot make the eight, will not make the eight from here. 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.520 Well, if you think about you know, people saying mathematically 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.520 their magic number thirty two, they've got to buy in hand. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.920 But they also need to win all five games, and 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.880 I don't know whether after seeing them against Canterbury, even 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.160 with a full strength team, I don't know whether that's 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.400 you know, whether they're capable of that. Unfortunately, for the Broncos, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.920 who if they don't make it, will by far be 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.399 the biggest disappointment of this year. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.400 Yeah, they're not going to make the eight. And the 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.800 Bulldogs blew them off the park. They were unbelievable and 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.679 Brisbane everything that play for and the same criticism that's 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.840 been placed on these guys for the last six or 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.080 eight weeks was they're sitting around waiting for something to happen. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:46.520 And Okay, now. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.240 We've got Adam Reynolds back, We've got middles like Pat 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.720 Carrigan and Payne Hess and we've got this undersized Cannoby 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.240 pack we're up against. We're just going to roll through them. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.200 They look like they sat back again waiting for something 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:02.639 to happen, and they cannot cop enough criticism, I think 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.880 for the lack of this resilience, the lack of determination 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.360 to Yeah, as we're seeing. If you're not watching us 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:11.679 on YouTube, go and have a look at some of 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.359 these highlights where the Broncos are letting the ball bounce, 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.240 they're not first to it. There's no urgency in their play. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.680 The Bulldogs wanted everything on top of them and the 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.200 Broncos got what they deserved. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.359 Yeah, Well, especially after last week. 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.639 Obviously, they beat Newcastle last week and that was kind 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.560 of the start of I think Kevin wal just said 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.440 in the press conference after that, you know we've only 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.840 just we haven't kicked it. We haven't gone through the 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.880 fence yet. We're just starting to kick it down. But 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:42.240 and then to be at home, a packed crowd, everything 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.080 to play for their pride, their season, everything, and then. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:45.960 They were just flat. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.400 And that's just not really a good enough explanation, is it, 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.320 Like why were they flat? 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:51.960 Yeah? 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:53.800 Yeah, well maybe make any sense? 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:58.440 Yeah, yeah, I know. I wonder if they dave brought 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.200 in too much into this side that they do have, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.400 you know, individual brilliance and strike all over the park 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.360 into what mobs he were saying, just waiting for an 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.760 individual to do something, to come up with, you know, 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.080 Rees Walsh to come up with a play that flips 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.280 the script a little bit. But it never happened, and 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.280 they were flat and they were beaten through the middle. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.000 And what I found really interesting is a lot of 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.880 people spoke about this after watching Canterbury. Canbary had a 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.040 game plan to shift the ball and really target their 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.280 edges and it was obvious that that's what they were 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.600 doing from the get go, but somehow the Broncos didn't 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.600 adjust on the run to that and I think that 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.800 says a lot about and Kevin Walters has mentioned that 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.760 a little bit and the lack of the inability to 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.920 execute his game plans. So if they haven't been able 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:38.440 to do it during the week, they were never going 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.960 to be able to adjust on the run against Canbury. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.400 I mean, Catony Saggs had a dig. He's probably at 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.960 everybody there. You could say, you know, he probably deserves 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.640 a bit of credit from that game. But yeah, they're 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.960 just and I think the biggest they were so good 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.559 attacking wise last year that the fact that they weren't 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:00.120 the best side defensively really went under the radar. And 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.040 I think Canterbury, who haven't been the best attacking team 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.479 so far this year, really exposed them. So there's a 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.200 lot of work I reckon to go at the Broncos 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.680 and I sort of like touched on it in the 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.919 tackle yesterday. If you look at how Penrith responded to 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.599 losing the twenty twenty Grand Final, it wasn't enough for 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.359 them to just rely on the talent they had in 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.200 their team, and at the time it was stuck with 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.040 gun talent coming through, they doubled down, they worked harder, 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.160 They were the fittest team in the competition. They worked 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.919 on their defense and they went onto three premierships. And 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.039 it just looks like the Broncos haven't been willing to 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:34.400 put in that hard work this year. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:34.880 Yeah. 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:39.160 Well, for mine, this Cannobury performance is textbook Camon Serudo 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.719 identifying and exploiting weaknesses in defenses. He did it a 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.599 lot at Penrith and the players brought into what he 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.800 was doing there. You see here he said that those 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.800 edges that they targeted the entire time, those block runners 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:58.960 and the cutting in Jacob Karraz, what a season he's 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:03.880 having and what are really I think he's he's he's 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.680 almost one of the he's got to be sort of 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.120 first pick kind of guy. He's so important to what 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.800 they do there and the way he's sprung out of 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.960 the ground because you saw when you know, the Bulldogs 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.400 bought in Bronze and Cherry and they've you know, Blake 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.960 Taff came around kind of tracy and we didn't know 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:21.200 where everybody was going to sit. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:22.239 You've got young Blake. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.479 Wilson, who's who's a good young player and carraz has 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.560 been named on the wing plenty of times and switched 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.719 to the centers. But I think he's he's really come 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:31.839 out of his skin this season. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.400 Yeah, absolutely pressed pressed big time good coaching, isn't it. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.200 It's just really if they don't have they're not exactly 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.240 a superstar team, Like if you compare them to the Broncos, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.200 they're not, you know, stacked full of sip stars. But 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:48.239 they've got so many gutsy players and I think I 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:49.960 remember at the start of the year, we were talking 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.680 about the size of the Bulldogs pack and who's the 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.200 who's the big leader there in that pack, and they're 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:59.159 probably sure, you know, a big, big prop or and 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.160 speaking to the Bulldog about that, they were like, well, 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.839 we just have a bunch of players who are real gutsy, 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.159 got a lot of mongrel in us, and we're just 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.720 going to attack as a as a unit. We're smaller, 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.920 we yeah, we're mobile, and that's just going to be 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.080 our identity and that's what they've kind of made. 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.440 Yes, Sarah Sarah was on the radio this morning actually, 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.920 and he spoke a little bit about the attacking plan 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.400 he had and he actually gave all the credit to 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.800 Jason Taylor, who's been an addition to his coaching staff 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.600 this year, and he sort of said he was the one, 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:30.880 or he's the one who's sort of been responsible in 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.360 putting together our attacking plans and sending that message to 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.080 the players every week. So he gave him a lot 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.960 of credit for that. But I think the biggest talking 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.880 point out of that which we've missed on is they 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.280 did that without Stephen Crichton, And I think that's a 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.280 really important thing to touch on because there's no doubt 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.360 he's been so influential for them this year. He's out, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.120 Jil Skelton comes in. You know. It's that next man 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.680 mentality that maybe in the past because they lacked depth 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.280 in their roster, they haven't been able to achieve out. 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.520 Stephen Crichton sits out and you can bring in someone 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.600 like Jeras Skelton, who I don't remember what he finished with, 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.200 but I think two hundred plus run meters, you know, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.880 and again, just another guy who shows he can be 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.440 an NRL, but they've got so much depth that he's 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:13.720 stuck in reserve grade. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:14.480 Yeah. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.560 Yeah, And Travis Main had a story up last week 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.000 that the Broncos have had to put on extra security 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.720 and put fences up to stop the fans getting getting 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.440 to them. You might want to put it up even 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.760 higher fences because they deserve to come at you after 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.360 that weekend's performance. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:29.560 That was terrible. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.240 Wasn't there a season where fans started chucking wooden spirons? 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:32.720 Yeah? 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.760 They might need some to put my one sea bowl. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:37.439 Yeah they had that as well. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:44.120 All ye, So look top eights, I think if you agree, 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.360 I think seven of the eight teams that are currently 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.680 in the I think the top seven teams will be 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:49.840 in the top eight this year. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:50.839 I've got obviously the. 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:58.840 Storm, Panthers, Roosters, Sharks, there Canterbury, North, Queensland Manly and 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:04.600 then for my on twenty four points you have the Dolphins, Raiders, Dragons, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.840 and then two points behind that you have the Knights 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.680 and then the Warriors. But I can't see the Warriors 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:11.360 making from there. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:12.480 I've got it in a race. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.880 I've got four spaces for that one final final spot. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:17.840 What do you think? 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.000 Yeah, I think that's about right. I don't think there'll 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:27.880 be too much movement from six and upwards. I think 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:32.640 the Dolphins are probably having another late season. Bay They really, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.640 really really should have won against the titles. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.720 They should have won a week ago. They should have won. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.680 They'd be four points clear, they'd be twenty eight points. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.480 Wayne bennett genius Finals campaign before he goes to South 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.800 Paramounta might have dodged a bullet here with Bennett. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:47.560 They can't finish a season. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:48.760 They can't finish a season. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:50.240 What's going on? 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:56.760 So yeah, I tend to agree with that. But unsurprisingly 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.360 when I did my Verter predictor, the eighth spot went 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:00.600 to and rough me. 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.360 Yeah, PM and I've got equal Yeah, we were the 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:04.040 same team here. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.400 I have the Nights in eighth. Yeah, I've got the 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.000 Dragons finishing on thirty two points in ninth, and then 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.440 the Warriors tenth, Broncos eleventh, and the O the Dolphins 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.839 dropping out, They've got they do have a rough end 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:18.320 to the year. 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.200 I like the Dolphins me too. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.440 Me too, But yeah, just over the weekend, they should 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:29.200 have closed this game out against the Titans. The Titans really, yeah, 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:30.600 just kept fighting for it, didn't they. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:31.160 They just wanted it. 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:32.040 A little bit of the team. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.120 That usually gives up leads the Gold Coast and they 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.000 keep fighting and des has of all the critics this season. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.160 This is a big win. But where was this side 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:41.480 that was? 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.760 This song was eight mil up over mainly last week, 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.120 then capitulated fourteen meal down here and fought their way back. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.079 How are you supposed to win a tipping company? Seriously? 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.400 I know, well, I don't think any of us are. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.480 Are we not this year? 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:55.640 Not this year? 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:56.080 No? 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.200 They had everything to play for here, the Dolphins, this 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:01.920 is their finals hopes. On the long lawyer said, they've 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.679 got a tough run home going from here. And in 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.800 that slew of teams a couple of weeks ago, they 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.040 was sort of fifth and sixth and all they need 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:10.560 to do was just get a couple of wins up 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.679 to get to your thirty two points. I haven't got 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.400 them there. They were one of my big disappointments from 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.319 the weekend. Then I thought Kronulla were disappointing. I think 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.520 their edge defense was pretty ordinary and they got shown 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.920 up again. You know, even the return of Niko Hines 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.000 isn't going to fix that. Do you have them finishing 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.200 I still had them finishing fourth. I don't say they're 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.720 fifth for mine. I don't know how I was trying 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.000 to manipulate a way I was doing that ladder predicted 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.880 to try and get either the Bulldogs or Cowboys up 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.679 into that top four because I love that stat of 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.120 the team that finishes outside the year before finishes in 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.400 the top four that next season. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:50.960 But owing to their. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.679 Cruisy draw on the way home and the points have 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.200 already got banked. But then again, if they don't start 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.280 lifting their game, the Sharks, they may struggle. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.360 Yeah, struggle ruggling in the finals. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.600 Yeah they will. I mean they've won one game since 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:11.640 round fourteen, I think it is so no sorry, two 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:16.520 games since round fourteen, so they're definitely not in form 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.920 at the moment. Obviously, the work that they did at 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.040 the start of the year has helped them stay in 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.480 the top four, but you know, they do have a 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.160 softish run home other than their last round game against 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.480 the Seagulls, who are also finding a bit of form. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.200 So I worry if the ty sorry that the Sharks, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.640 it's just a bit of a groundhog day for them 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.640 coming into the finals a bit too soft and not 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.760 really being able to test themselves against the two best 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.360 teams in the competition in Penrith and the Storm, which 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.319 I think even though we're talking about how tight the 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.400 latter is. I really don't think outside of those two 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.760 there are any genuine title contenders at the moment. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:58.040 Well, yeah, I think Nathan Clear is returned. I don't 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.240 think Penrith rest players towards end of the Sea. I 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.960 think they've rested them post origin. I think Nathan coming 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.720 back from mine, I think they go through the way 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.280 they are and they just keep winning games. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:12.880 And Clear he was outstanding the Melbourne Storm. I don't know. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.439 I was watching this through biased eyes against the Eels 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.880 the other night when they Paramatta gifted them a couple 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.720 of tries. They didn't have the possession or the field position, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.960 they weren't tackled inside the Eels twenty and let's yet 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:29.600 somehow they led in that first half and Munster being back, 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:33.080 he'll get better. I just for the better performance for 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.360 me at the weekend was Panthers. And if I was 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.120 a betting man, I couldn't have enough on Penrith winning 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.320 that fourth title because obviously I think you're going to 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.120 top two finish for the Storm home final, won't have 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.840 to travel to Sydney if you keep winning until Grand Final. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.360 So owing to that saloon passage, that they'vent themselves. They 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:54.160 can be there, but yeah, still haven't been proven that 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:58.079 anyone can live up to Penrith's expectations at the moment. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.640 James Susha Harris did pick up a growing maybe an 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.600 abductor injury in that game, so it'd be interesting to 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.720 see how serious that is. Obviously they did it again 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.000 without Dylan Edwards is still out with a with a 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.000 PCL injury. But yeah, they just look right now, they 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.480 just look streaks ahead of anybody else. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.280 I'm never going to count out in Melbourne though. I 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.800 just think that that's a folly to do that. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.320 I'm just angry after they beat Pamatta the other night. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:29.960 They're gonna bounce angry at all. Yeah it's all their fault. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:31.880 But but yeah, I mean you saw the week before 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.680 what they did the roosters as well, you know, and 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.760 these are these are supposed to be the contenders. So 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.560 you know, the Storm just keep doing what they do. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.760 They keep winning. But I just I just want them 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.240 to prove that they can do that against that they've 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:45.720 got that. I want to see they've got that next 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.880 level to go to, which Penwuth seemed to me a 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:48.480 lot there. 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:49.880 They really do have there. 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.040 So they just look like they have so much fun, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:52.520 don't they? 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:53.600 Yeah? 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.920 Yeah, what is just it really is just fun for them. 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.960 I want you to tell me which games your Raiders 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.640 are winning getting the top eight. Let's get through the 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.840 Bill Moore Sports Ground Bulldogs next week. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:13.520 Yeah, you've got them winning that. I do. Okay, home 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.280 game against mainly the week after. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.080 I think I got there. I think I had them 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:18.200 losing that one. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:19.120 Mainly don't travel well. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.880 But okay, right Country Bank Stadium Careboys round twenty. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.880 Four, Sorry, can we go back? I had them winning 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.840 against Manley and then lowsing to the Cows at home 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.080 right sorry, in North Queisia. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.840 So you've obviously got them beating the Panthers the following 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.040 week at Joe. I don't have you got them beating 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.520 the Roosters the following week. I do. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.000 You've got them beating the Roosters. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:39.920 We've got to win some games. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.800 And last round Dragons Raiders. That's huge, that could that 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.680 could be a top eighter side and that could be the. 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.320 Top eight decider. But I've got them winning that well. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.600 I had It's and Georgia Lawara in around the eight. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.880 If their performance at the weekend was better the Dragons. 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.680 I mean, if they finished ninth, which is kind of 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.040 what I've gone imagine, I think that's that's a. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.440 Past mark, but at ninth as well. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.960 Actually this close as Dragons fans having had a really 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.240 bad run for the last few years, what do you 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:16.480 where do you put your finger on it? 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.560 I think that is I think Dragons fans would be 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.840 fairly happy with the improvement that they've seen this year. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:23.479 Would you? Would you agree? 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.760 You do know what Dragons fans are like. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:30.880 Right, No? 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.600 I think that I think there is there's signs of 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.360 that those days are kind of over and that there 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:40.320 is a new kind of eerror under Shane Flanagan. Obviously 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.920 the weekend was not great. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.560 But I mean it's Penrith too. 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.480 I think they will have a dig in these last 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.800 in these last couple of rounds, I've got them winning 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:50.600 a couple of games. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.960 So yeah, Obviously Shane Flanagan made that big call to 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.680 act Tyrle Sloan. He'm not happy with his defense and 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.640 again there's probably a few that could have joined him 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:07.560 on from this weekend and you know they have mixed 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.440 their former bit this year. The Dragons where yeah, they 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.919 can lose a big buy a big score, then they 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.639 can grind out a solid win the week after. So 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.680 you know, Flano's got that ability to get their minds 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.640 back on the job. But I don't know where they 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.960 go from here because I thought ben Hunt had a 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:25.000 I thought he had a poor game. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:26.720 Yeah, you know, he did have a poor game, and 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.959 that was probably I mean, I was going to say 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.040 that was indifference. It isn't. I don't think even if 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.000 ben Hunt had a blinder, and I'm not sure if 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.160 that would have been enough to help them get past Penrith, 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.359 But I think when he's a little bit off, I 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.440 mean Zach Lmacks was a little bit quiet after I 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:43.320 think he moved to fall back early in the game. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.240 So yeah, they're a bit of that that jeckl and 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.320 High team where sometimes they look really good and you 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.280 look at them and you go wow, like Shane Flangan's 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.080 working miracles there, because you have to remember, I mean, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.360 I think it was a Mick Carryanis said they went 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.600 into the season with the worst roster in the competition. 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.040 I'm not going to say that the worst rust in 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.760 the competition, but on. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.480 Paper he said. I'm not agree with him. I just 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:04.440 this is just what he said. 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:06.879 So when you look at their team, I mean, you 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.520 probably think they do need a couple of editions for 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.280 next year to help them go to that next level. 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.000 But to go from you know, deep in the bottom 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.000 half of the ladder to in and around that finals conversation, 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.680 I think that's a huge improvement for them. 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.440 Speaking of Mick Carriyanas and adding players for next year, 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.480 that's a nice seguey mix story from the weekend that 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:32.040 Val Holmes has been granted permission to explore other opportunities. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.840 He's got twelve months ago and his Cowboys deal with 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.760