WEBVTT - Penrith Can Rewrite History | Storm Can't Win Without Hughes | Raiders lack Depth for GF | CODE NRL 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.080 Competentis win the comp. 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:03.360 They've got to get through the next three weeks, merge unscar, 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:04.400 stay in the top four. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:06.720 Any team can do it from outside? You know they can. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:12.119 I don't know that they can. His true suggests they can't. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:13.920 History suggests we've never seen a team like that. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:14.280 Direct. 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.040 I think the side in the top four that have 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.000 another gear and. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:20.079 And they are in this position where they can still 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.759 make the eight. They have a roster that is absolutely 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:23.919 capable of winning a camp. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:28.120 Bailey Simonson omitted again from the Eels line up to 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:29.680 play the rabbit Os on the weekend. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:30.760 What's Doing. 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.080 Welcome to the Code n r L Show Adam Mobbs 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:42.040 here with Michael Carrionis, David Riki and Brent Reid Hot 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:42.880 takes this week. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.080 Competis win the comp? Yes, yeah they can? 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:52.599 For sure of just one word. Yeah, I think they can. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.680 But but I think Melbourne are clearly still the favorites 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.320 for me. But I think depending on how things play out, 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:00.720 they've got to stay in the top four. I think 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.440 you can't win it from outside the top four. For me, 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:05.360 they've got to stay in the top four. They've got 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.119 a tough run the next three weeks. I think they've 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:09.840 got to get through the next three weeks. Merge On 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:14.080 scares stay in the top four, and then I'll be 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.760 I'll be worried about him. You're not worried about him 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.320 now from the top four. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.360 I'd be worried about him regardless if I'm. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:21.280 That's on the top four. 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:25.720 Yeah, okay, Yeah, if any team can do it from outside, 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:26.399 you know they can. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:30.360 I don't know that they can. I think they'll finish 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:31.840 in the top History suggests they can't. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.200 Well, I don't think we've said history suggests we've never 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:34.920 seen a team like that? 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:36.880 Correct we have in the sixties. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.000 Okay, yeah, we've said a better team, but only you 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:41.839 were alive then. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:44.040 It was close. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.520 What about the lack of injuries, I mean, I know 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:51.120 is A is out for that. Yeah, but that's it's 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.120 what happens every year. Their injury run is always time 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.400 to perfect, isn't it. Every year they have a big injury. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.840 This year, he'll be playing it the business. 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.080 End were playing next week. 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:05.320 That's what happens with Penrith. For whatever reason, their injuries. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.600 I know they've carried Nathan and Jerome over the last 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.120 couple of years, but it works out for him. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.080 The big thing is the defense is back in order 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.440 and that's that was the I regon that was the 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.680 biggest concern when we started to think about writing them 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.400 off and actually write them off. 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.000 From earlier this year. When we started to. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.720 Their defense was it was like something we haven't seen 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.519 before from Penmouth side in so many years. And I 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.600 think I think now that's back in order. I think 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:31.400 they're conceding on. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.880 Average twelve points. That's just crazy. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:38.200 That's that's back to championship stuff. So yeah, absolutely they can. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:39.679 We're going to get a great look at them over 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:40.600 the next three weeks though. 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:42.160 That's the barometer for them. 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:43.480 I think they beat Melbourne. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.280 Perhaps, no Jerome Hughes, they get their chance. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.440 That's the big one for Melbourne is if they get 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.320 perhaps we'll be back obviously, but Jerome Hughes, if he's 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.880 not back, I'd have Penwrith as premiership favorites. 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.440 Can Melbourne win it without Jerome Hughes, No, No, I 0:02:58.480 --> 0:02:58.960 don't think so. 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:00.960 I reckon they can. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.200 I just don't think the other players. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.640 I think the current is very wide open this year, hugely. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:05.880 Yeah. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.120 I think even Melbourne have been a bit inconsistent. They 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:09.320 haven't been something. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:10.960 They haven't been coned right. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.079 I don't know whether they're waiting for the finals, but 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.400 there's been moments where they have played so well, they've 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.280 blown teams away for twenty thirty minute periods and then 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.120 they've just shut up shop and stopped playing. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:21.359 Yeah. 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.560 No, one's been informous. Yeah, so I don't look, I 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.280 think Melbourne can win it without run. I think it 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.560 becomes infinitely more difficult for them. But I think they 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.480 can win it without him. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.360 I'm not sure if they can without No, I don't think. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:41.680 Okay, sorry, sorry. 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.160 It's crazy. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.080 We've said for ages now they haven't been great, but 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:43.760 they're coming second. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:45.920 But there's another way. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.200 But yes, I think the only side in the top 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.560 four that have another gear and Melbourne Penrith. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.200 I think Cambury has been exceptional this year. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.720 Obviously you'll start baking cabod No. I think that gets you, buddy. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.080 But I think they played their best footage, right. I 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.200 think Canbury have probably played their best. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.360 Foot an element of waiting for the finals. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.839 For the Raiders point of view, I regon they flat 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.960 lined a little bit on the on the basis of waiting. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:09.800 A lot of young blokes that haven't been in this. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:14.120 Situations around them right where Melbourne and Penereth are known 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:15.720 quantities in the business end of the season. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.800 See people keep saying this about Canberra, but they've got 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.080 a lot of finals experience, a lot of finals experience. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.360 Do We have this argument with Jimmy Graham the other week, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.719 but Jimmy said, they've got they've got heaps of finals. 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.400 Not in the spine premiership, in the sport. They've got 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.200 a lot of premiership experience. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.400 You mean winning comps. No, they don't know that they've 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.280 got they've got experience in big games in finals. What 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:40.520 about the grind? 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.320 What about getting in the grind, because you know Melbourne 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.360 can do it, you know Penrith can do it. You've 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.960 seen Canterbury at the season grinding out wins. Canberra have 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.120 relied on their attack to get him out of trouble 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.400 at times and then you know they finally had that 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:56.080 that that. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.840 Defeat that rocked them a little bit. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.440 And even against Manly, I thought mainly held their gloves 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.440 up pretty well in the middle a little bit and 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:04.840 then they got the win again. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.560 So they will get punished for those lapses in the 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.800 finals if they if they don't eradicate them. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:15.200 That's the concern for camera. How many finals they played 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:15.560 or something. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.719 Look, the big factor is is what the Raiders is. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.800 They're going to be playing these semi finals at home. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.320 Yes, that's the fact that you just can't run away 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.320 from that. As soon as you say that advantage Raiders. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.440 They could play Penrith week one of the finals down 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:30.880 in Canberra. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:32.360 Who would you be tipping? 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.359 Well, I bet you well, okay, just hold that thought. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.080 I'd take camera anyway, but hold that thought. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.280 But you would have a vastly different view if that. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.560 Game was at Penroth. It's not a discussion, you know 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:44.000 what I mean. 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.640 So it shifts your view of how that result goes 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.280 based on the fact that they've put themselves in this 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.200 position to be planning to get into a grand final 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:53.720 at home. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:54.839 It's huge. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.560 I think got three survivors. 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:02.000 That's not a lot, but a lot of finals experience 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:06.720 since not in their spine Cads and young Josh. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.120 Yeah minutes. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:18.040 Look it up, half played finals footy. Since a lot 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.520 of guys that played Jamal Foggery, A lot of guys 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.520 playing the finals they haven't how many of the want 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.200 of them played Origin, how many of they want of 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:25.159 them played test footing? 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.120 How many finals of they one don't know their finals. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.159 You have to give me more notice of You would 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.159 like to saying they don't have a big match experience. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:33.719 They do. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:40.080 They they haven't had finals, correct, winning finals experience, winning, losing. 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:44.680 It's still finals experience, not sorry, if you lose, does 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:44.960 it not? 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.240 I'm comparing it to Cannon to Melbourne and Penrith doesn't 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:48.960 even come close. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.720 Who's going to get close to them? You put it 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:52.679 on through team. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:57.160 There's obviously question So obviously because you're comparing it tod, 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.560 I said, listen, no one, listen because youre annoying me. 0:06:59.600 --> 0:06:59.760 Now. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.760 I said there's question marks over their big game experience 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.680 and you're saying there's not because they've had no success 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.200 in big game of spruits. So it's sweet and so 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.400 they had no success. You said that the finals and 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:10.640 finals they've had no success. 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.960 But they played big matches other than finals. 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.720 We're talking finals football reasons. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:15.920 No, you said big match. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.480 I'm talking if we went back. 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.960 I said, finally, does origin and origin and test? Because 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:25.800 I said finals origin. I said that Melbourne and Penrith 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.920 have a distinct advantage. They've got an avenger over everyone exactly, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.520 so put them on through every other team in the top. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.480 Okay, okay, there you go. Done mix says pen Melbourne. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:35.280 No one else cooking it. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.640 Done and ready says camera con Because three blokes played 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:39.760 a ground final five years. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.280 And all the blokes who played tests foot in the 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:42.440 stud of Origin footy as well. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.680 I want to ask you, Dave about the Sydney Roosters, 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.320 your thoughts on how they're going where they should be 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.920 sitting at the moment, because the last couple of weeks 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.640 they've you know, they've the season has been on the 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.920 line and losses would have pretty much ruled them out 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.280 and they kept themselves in the running. Should they are 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:02.720 they where they should be? I think they should be 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:03.160 a bit higher. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.360 So last September I wrote a column about how the 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.040 vacuum of leadership and experience is going to hurt the 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.920 Roosters this season and how I had them struggling to 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:16.160 make the eighth after watching the rise of Mark Nawanakatawezi, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:21.960 Robert Toyer, Hugo Savala and a couple of Blake Steve's 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.440 the younger forwards coming through. I've shifted my I've shifted 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:30.480 my mind on where this team sits, probably around May 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:34.640 June this year, and then watching unfold the Dally m 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.680 favorite his form of the form of James de Desco 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.800 has shifted my mind and what this team is capable of. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.400 When you then throw in the class and caliber of 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:49.240 all the representative players Angus Crichton, Connor Watson, who else, 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:57.400 who else too, like Lindsay Collins, Spencer Lanu, Victor Radley. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.280 They have been with Sam Walker for okay, So then 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.080 you come back to the fact that Samsmoon missing yet 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.040 here they are okay, granted, but they still had Sam 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:06.480 and Smith. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:07.400 They could have. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.800 They bought Chad Townsend for a reason. I'm not saying 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.120 it worked or it didn't. A deal didn't work, but 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.680 they did buy him. So they had ample experience and 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.120 depth in the halves. They unearthed Hugo. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.880 And they are in this position where they can still 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:23.240 make the. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.960 Eight and once they get there, they are they have 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.480 a roster that should be and is absolutely capable of 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.920 winning a camp and getting to at least getting to 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:33.439 the Grand. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.719 Final this year. Yes, this year. 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.520 If they get to the eighth, that's rules, that's a team. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:41.600 Your turn. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.760 How well that that team right. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.880 On, the class of Melbourne cameras. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:49.880 Let's play more finals. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:54.079 So they've got the Dallian favorite, Jimmy the Dallim it's 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:54.560 a good player. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.200 They've got five Origin players. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.400 Yes, yeah, I. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:07.960 Throw a start. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:08.800 You can't. 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:18.520 Well, I just had him coming into this year missing 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.680 the eight. I don't think I had just missing the ape. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.440 So there's some dem you must see some damn good 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:25.960 teams above the roosters. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.600 As far as rosters are concerned, well. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.160 I just thought with all the amount of players that 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.160 left the side last year, right, there was a lot 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.360 of a lot of high quality, a lot of experience 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:33.920 out the door. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.040 Taking his stack of footy. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.400 Take it into the account that Sam Walker we didn't 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.160 know exactly when and he was going to be back 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.640 this year. So I thought they'd have a slight dip 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.000 this year, not a catastrophic dip, a slight dip this year, 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.560 but obviously signing Ree robson for next year, and then 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.520 with those players that have had more exposure like the 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.200 far who White, all those sort of guys that have 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.640 played a lot more first grade this year, and I 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.720 just wasn't sure with that experience, was not a player. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.679 In the roof, just back line that wouldn't walk into 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:03.319 the majority of the teams. 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:05.920 I get your point. I do get your point. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.600 I just basing it on what my expectation was on 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.080 him headed into this year, and I didn't have him 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:12.439 in my eight. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.920 So which teams did you have started beating him in 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.679 the eight? Did you have the Dolphins, the Warriors, the Raiders. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:20.920 Definitely not, You're going great. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:23.240 These are all teams above them. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:28.400 So you had the Storm, Bulldogs, Panthers, Broncos. 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:34.600 You would have happen manly how you can even. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.960 You considered the Manly Liner to have been comparable to 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.720 what the Roosters have at their disposal off one mind blowing. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.760 But do you have them start again? 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.120 Because I'm hearing what you said the vacuum of experience, 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:49.600 I went no. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.719 But halfway through this year, so you didn't know the eight? No, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:59.920 probably not, but I'm not even willing to seen that. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.120 I understand what your hundred percent, one hundred percent, I 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.840 understand what you're saying. And then if you look at 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.400 it now, I think they'll make the eight right because 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.720 of the injuries that have got to teams in and 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.040 around and mainly have fallen off a cliff, right, the 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.960 Dolphins have all these injuries. I think Brisbane will make 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.080 the AID as well, despite the three injuries that they've got. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.840 But I think the Roosters will finish. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.800 What I'm saying is so Tedesco is having a dallim season. 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:22.880 I don't think they can win the comp mark. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:24.920 No one could toys. He is the Daly m Rookie 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:25.280 of the Year. 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.280 You can NRL can can stamp the papers, but he 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.000 is right, he's the best. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:30.960 Young player in the game. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:31.480 Really. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.200 Then Robert Toyer comes out and plays three games in 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.280 a State of Origin series and wins it with Queensland. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.840 These are the things that you didn't know would happen 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.000 when you were doing your top eight exactly. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.880 Yeah, right, That's why I had my doubts, right yeah. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.959 But so now they emerge with this capability and they 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.360 are where are they tenth at the moment? 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:49.480 Tenth? 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:54.520 Not they are underachieving, nah, because I think you're I 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:58.120 understand your point, Dave, but you can't, like just because 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.960 we get to the halfway point and we'll reassess, right, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.920 you can't discard how hard it was for him at 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.040 the start of the year without Sam Walker without the 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.719 all those guys that were playing longer minutes for the 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:08.520 first time and stuff. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.319 You just can't discount that, I can. I say. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.079 Everyone's talking about how the rooster turned the corner, right am? 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:14.400 I right? 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.240 They won the one Tour a right now because they 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.000 win two weeks so I can't remember. Yeah, I think 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.559 that was two games before that. That's actually been flying. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:23.679 They haven't been that good this year. 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.160 No, that's why I think they're underachieving. 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.480 But but but you are also sudden they could win. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.320 The comp Well, why did those do they win the comp? 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:29.400 What? 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:31.560 Based on the roster? 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.319 Well they can make they can't make the why those boys? 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.160 Why did those boys get picked for the New South 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.120 Wales't because why Robbie Toy got picked? 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.120 Because we ran our troops basically again, so ordinary Spencer 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.240 and some of the other boys got shown loyalty. Spencer, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.719 Connor Watson angers got shown loyalty. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:53.000 So they still got there. Right. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.439 But if they're going on my bustards, there's enough back 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.839 rails around and over the top. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.600 Surely over the course of this seed season you can 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.680 see that they've been too inconsistent, and. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.080 They have been inconsistent they're underachieved and. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.640 Considered too many points to go anywhere close to winning this. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:09.560 Corp, and they're to improve. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:10.960 No doubt, they're underachieving. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.200 Dave's not basing it on the way they played. Dave's 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.280 based on the way they should be playing. But you 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.880 can't put I don't agree with it. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.200 I don't agree based on the way they're playing. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:21.920 Notice to say they are achieving. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:26.840 What if I'm talking about ten and he's planning at 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.720 a six, he's underachieving even what. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.280 I'm saying, you're saying they can make the Greend Final. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.600 Give the shape if they can't, If they can't base 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:34.760 all those boys. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.200 If you're basically how they're playing, they can't. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.760 Well, if they play to their ability, they can. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.640 Well, maybe this is their ability. Maybe we've overrated. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:42.960 Well, that's a different topic. 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.040 I didn't think they make the finals for the season. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.640 That's a different I thought their ability was they've exceeded 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:49.920 their ability to get to where they are. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.440 Well, they've got some issues with their roster. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.320 Then going aback the camera quickly, do you think the 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.520 rooster should clim They made a prelim in twenty twenty 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.240 and they made the file second with the finals in 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.400 twenty twenty two Melbourne, Melbourne. That's big game experience. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.640 Do you think do you think do you think the 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.960 Rusters should clean out their roster? Well you should. You 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.360 think they should because they're not playing for their ability. 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.880 I think they've reached their I think. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.520 This year if the Rusters was always going to be 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.000 a transition year and they're going to be better next year. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.240 But you just said those players are playing to their 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.960 ability and potential. Well some of them are, so they're 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.320 on long economy. 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.480 Nick mentioned Angus Anger has been a bit down this year. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.440 Tour are going to get better. Mark the Winged is 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:32.040 going to get. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:36.440 Better, right, Lafio wait'sn't gone, Ye was going to get better. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.680 You throw robson, so who is playing to the who 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.680 has He's gonna win. 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:48.440 The rob To pro rob to? Probably have you got standing? 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:49.840 Sammy Walker has been great? 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.280 Since said maybe they've reached their potential. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.360 It's probably there. It's it's probably the higher earners haven't 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:56.840 been great. That's obviously they miss Sam Walker for a 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.600 long time. Teddy's been great, but Lindsay Corns, I don't 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.960 think was great, has been great this year. I think 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.320 Angus has been great this year. Bradley hasn't been great 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.360 this year. So I think that's where their issues are 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.120 at the moment, the roosters, not not the emerging players, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:12.640 which is why I think they'll be really good next year. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.120 They could win the COP next year, you know. But 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:16.640 I just think that if. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.640 They missed the it's it's it's an underachieving season. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:21.360 Win too. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:21.680 Well. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:26.880 They've got two big games, don't they storm Ye Bulldogs, 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:28.520 and so they've got to win the other two, which 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.160 are Paramatta and then South. You reckon two people from 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.280 there gets him in the eighth. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.480 No certain, I'll tell you what That form and against 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:37.920 helped them against the Dolphins. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.880 To beat the Dogs. Yeah, I could see that happening and. 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:43.840 Then they can get up for it. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:48.040 Rumor Mill obviously breaking news on the Thursday morning Sean 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.000 Lane officially announcing his retirement. You guys had it at 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.640 Sport Confidential six weeks ago, so if you want to 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.800 hear the latest, always go there first. So the other 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.800 one is Bailey Simonson omitted again from the Eels line 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.640 up to play the rabbit Os on the weekend. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:03.800 What's doing this. 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:08.800