1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apogee Production. 2 00:00:10,081 --> 00:00:13,881 Speaker 2: This podcast contains discussions of abuse, trauma, mental health, and 3 00:00:13,921 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: family conflict. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to Secrets of 4 00:00:19,041 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: the Underworld. I am Neil the Muscle Comments, and in 5 00:00:22,521 --> 00:00:25,441 Speaker 2: this episode, I speak with Becky, who opens up about 6 00:00:25,441 --> 00:00:29,001 Speaker 2: her path from hardship to independence in the sex industry. 7 00:00:29,721 --> 00:00:30,881 Speaker 1: You know, you said there and you think about it 8 00:00:30,881 --> 00:00:32,361 Speaker 1: and you're like, why am I even getting married? Like 9 00:00:32,361 --> 00:00:34,281 Speaker 1: I walk down the eye, I'd like bruises down my leg, 10 00:00:34,321 --> 00:00:36,241 Speaker 1: like all the sudden, my thigh was coming to bruises, 11 00:00:36,241 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking from what from him? And I remember 12 00:00:38,801 --> 00:00:40,601 Speaker 1: he just grabbed my throat and just threw him up 13 00:00:40,641 --> 00:00:42,721 Speaker 1: against like the corner up on the count, and I'm 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: like I couldn't breathed, and I'm like, is this Wory's 15 00:00:44,801 --> 00:00:47,321 Speaker 1: going to kill me? I've always had a good sex strife, 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,601 Speaker 1: So I just remember, like one night seeing there going 17 00:00:50,641 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, I should have to make money out of me. 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,961 Speaker 3: If someone tell your wife for free when. 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,001 Speaker 1: You can get paid, I will wholeheartedly say, I don't 20 00:00:58,001 --> 00:01:00,281 Speaker 1: feel guilt, I don't feel remorse. If you are in 21 00:01:00,441 --> 00:01:08,201 Speaker 1: your husband, I am. 22 00:01:04,641 --> 00:01:06,121 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you for coming on the podcast. 23 00:01:06,361 --> 00:01:09,521 Speaker 2: Thanks you look like you, and you sound like you've 24 00:01:09,521 --> 00:01:12,961 Speaker 2: got a very interesting story to tell me about your 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,041 Speaker 2: life and the industry. But before we get into the 26 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:17,521 Speaker 2: nitty gritty of you know, your life and what you'll 27 00:01:17,521 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: get up to tell me about you growing up first 28 00:01:21,121 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: and your life before you got into the industry, and 29 00:01:25,321 --> 00:01:26,041 Speaker 2: we'll go from there. 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,241 Speaker 1: Oh, I'd have to say, life's always been interesting. So I'm, 31 00:01:31,481 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, first generation born here. So parents are great 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,961 Speaker 1: from my Croatia, Well, life was great up until I 33 00:01:36,961 --> 00:01:39,081 Speaker 1: was eight years old. Then dad passed away from cancer, 34 00:01:39,601 --> 00:01:41,321 Speaker 1: and then it was like a big reality check. Me 35 00:01:41,321 --> 00:01:43,641 Speaker 1: and my sister grew very hard and fast because you know, 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: it's a bit of mental health in there with my mum, 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,361 Speaker 1: so we realized, you know, that protected a lot. So 38 00:01:48,441 --> 00:01:50,721 Speaker 1: I've got pretty hard pretty quick. But mom did a 39 00:01:50,721 --> 00:01:53,081 Speaker 1: great job raising us. I always say she always worked hard, 40 00:01:53,121 --> 00:01:56,561 Speaker 1: always provided, always lived in Melbourne, always lived in Melbourne. 41 00:01:56,601 --> 00:01:58,841 Speaker 1: I absolutely love Melbourne, O Harden will always be on 42 00:01:58,881 --> 00:02:00,961 Speaker 1: Melbourne girl. Like I've been plenty of other states, and 43 00:02:01,001 --> 00:02:04,041 Speaker 1: I love other places for various reasons like obviously queens 44 00:02:04,081 --> 00:02:04,681 Speaker 1: and love the weather. 45 00:02:05,161 --> 00:02:05,601 Speaker 3: Adelaide. 46 00:02:05,641 --> 00:02:06,921 Speaker 1: I just I know it makes fun of me, but 47 00:02:06,961 --> 00:02:08,841 Speaker 1: I love Adelaide. It's just so beautiful there. But yeah, 48 00:02:08,881 --> 00:02:11,441 Speaker 1: I love Melbourne. There's so many reasons why, but he 49 00:02:11,561 --> 00:02:12,881 Speaker 1: always been here. I grew up on the beach and 50 00:02:12,961 --> 00:02:15,841 Speaker 1: mortial look it was beautiful there. But yeah, no grop 51 00:02:15,881 --> 00:02:19,081 Speaker 1: hard and fast. And then you know, I met an 52 00:02:19,081 --> 00:02:21,641 Speaker 1: alex husband when I was nineteen, so quite young. 53 00:02:22,001 --> 00:02:25,801 Speaker 4: Well did you know him before school or no? No? 54 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,201 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actually good old days back then, because 55 00:02:28,201 --> 00:02:29,321 Speaker 1: you know I am bit older now. 56 00:02:29,561 --> 00:02:30,361 Speaker 4: Yeah. 57 00:02:30,441 --> 00:02:32,201 Speaker 3: I always like, I don't. 58 00:02:32,121 --> 00:02:34,441 Speaker 1: Feel forty two, but when I wake up in the 59 00:02:34,441 --> 00:02:36,481 Speaker 1: morning and my body, I feel forty two. 60 00:02:37,401 --> 00:02:38,561 Speaker 3: I literally actor. 61 00:02:39,081 --> 00:02:40,841 Speaker 1: I was sitting with my friend he worked at a 62 00:02:40,841 --> 00:02:44,161 Speaker 1: Tobacco's video store, and this guy comes in to sign up. 63 00:02:44,201 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: I didn't pay a bit of attention. I helped sign 64 00:02:46,201 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: him up because I was sung out with my friend. 65 00:02:47,881 --> 00:02:49,881 Speaker 1: And then a couple of nights later, on a Wednesday night, 66 00:02:49,921 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: these have the Edgy Hotel. It was like a big 67 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,641 Speaker 1: thing for the young crowd. It was cheap drinks, everyone fire, 68 00:02:54,081 --> 00:02:56,321 Speaker 1: and he noticed me. He keeps up, goes you sign 69 00:02:56,401 --> 00:02:57,761 Speaker 1: me up at the video store and then we started 70 00:02:57,841 --> 00:02:59,881 Speaker 1: chatting and that was sort of how we met, and 71 00:02:59,921 --> 00:03:02,761 Speaker 1: then kind of went from there. So yeah, I met 72 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: at nineteen at first kid. At twenty two, I was 73 00:03:05,841 --> 00:03:09,041 Speaker 1: pregnant with the second one when we got married, signed 74 00:03:09,081 --> 00:03:11,041 Speaker 1: up with three kids on the floor. 75 00:03:10,881 --> 00:03:13,601 Speaker 4: So everything was good because in the marriage yeah. 76 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,201 Speaker 1: No, if my kids now ask me why I married him, 77 00:03:18,601 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: and like he will sometimes do things now where he 78 00:03:20,721 --> 00:03:22,361 Speaker 1: could be like really cute with the kids or do 79 00:03:22,441 --> 00:03:25,121 Speaker 1: certain things like those were the moments that I fell 80 00:03:25,121 --> 00:03:27,281 Speaker 1: in love. Also, I did fall in love with the 81 00:03:27,321 --> 00:03:30,921 Speaker 1: Stone version. So he smoked all the time, so I 82 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,961 Speaker 1: didn't know with the stuff. So normal person and stone 83 00:03:35,001 --> 00:03:36,921 Speaker 1: person are two different people. So I fell in love 84 00:03:36,921 --> 00:03:39,361 Speaker 1: with the Stone version, which was a bit you know, 85 00:03:40,641 --> 00:03:43,281 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I thought things would get 86 00:03:43,321 --> 00:03:45,441 Speaker 1: better when we had the first kid, because we actually 87 00:03:45,441 --> 00:03:49,401 Speaker 1: almost broke up and separated then because he we went 88 00:03:49,441 --> 00:03:51,521 Speaker 1: to Sydney for a trip because he's originally from there, 89 00:03:52,041 --> 00:03:54,401 Speaker 1: and we went there for Christmas, and then the whole 90 00:03:54,441 --> 00:03:56,521 Speaker 1: family because he's got a massive family, went to Queens 91 00:03:56,521 --> 00:03:57,441 Speaker 1: Stand for years. 92 00:03:57,641 --> 00:03:58,601 Speaker 3: I wasn't invited. 93 00:03:59,201 --> 00:04:02,521 Speaker 1: Wow, so I was like, cool, I'll just drive back 94 00:04:02,561 --> 00:04:04,481 Speaker 1: to Melbourne. But then the drive shaft on the old 95 00:04:04,521 --> 00:04:08,001 Speaker 1: Corolla had was about a snapside too. Hire a car 96 00:04:08,281 --> 00:04:10,321 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you be invited to a family. I was 97 00:04:10,721 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: never really liked, I know at the start. Eventually, yeah, 98 00:04:14,441 --> 00:04:17,521 Speaker 1: his grandmother always loved me, hence why the youngest has 99 00:04:17,561 --> 00:04:18,001 Speaker 1: her name. 100 00:04:18,201 --> 00:04:19,361 Speaker 4: But was that awkward? 101 00:04:20,521 --> 00:04:22,601 Speaker 1: No, I've always never really been liked. I kind of 102 00:04:22,601 --> 00:04:24,401 Speaker 1: always got used to not fitting in. I've always been 103 00:04:24,401 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: to be awkward. I'm very much, you know, a little 104 00:04:27,121 --> 00:04:28,721 Speaker 1: bit old, a little bit weird. I always get told 105 00:04:28,761 --> 00:04:31,241 Speaker 1: I get told him too much. Sometimes I'll toe myself 106 00:04:31,281 --> 00:04:33,641 Speaker 1: down when I need to. But I've always just you. 107 00:04:34,121 --> 00:04:36,201 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you. The thing is you should be. 108 00:04:37,681 --> 00:04:40,081 Speaker 3: South American too. So Columbian is the ex husband. 109 00:04:40,161 --> 00:04:43,681 Speaker 1: So it's it's tricky because yeah, I just I don't 110 00:04:43,721 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: think I was what she wanted. So like, I'm a 111 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,121 Speaker 1: bit rough. It's the way I speak, the way I 112 00:04:48,201 --> 00:04:53,801 Speaker 1: do things. I swear too much, trying not to we 113 00:04:54,081 --> 00:04:57,601 Speaker 1: too much. But I just yeah, it wasn't invited. Obviously, 114 00:04:57,641 --> 00:05:00,681 Speaker 1: after time she got to realize how things were, and 115 00:05:00,721 --> 00:05:02,841 Speaker 1: we eventually and even now we're great. 116 00:05:03,401 --> 00:05:04,641 Speaker 3: But yeah, I was invited. 117 00:05:04,721 --> 00:05:06,841 Speaker 1: So the worst part was they all packed up and 118 00:05:06,921 --> 00:05:08,921 Speaker 1: left and I had to wait three days in Sydney 119 00:05:08,961 --> 00:05:12,041 Speaker 1: alone before I could get the Highker because there wasn't 120 00:05:12,041 --> 00:05:14,401 Speaker 1: one to drive back to Melbourne, so and we had 121 00:05:14,721 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: dogs at the time. They were up at Sydney with us, 122 00:05:16,641 --> 00:05:19,081 Speaker 1: so I had to drive. He wasn't even with you, 123 00:05:19,161 --> 00:05:20,921 Speaker 1: like you didn't come to see you and are you were? 124 00:05:20,961 --> 00:05:22,961 Speaker 1: You know that they all left and I was just 125 00:05:23,081 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: left alone. So it was actually one of his best 126 00:05:25,281 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: mates that hung out with me most of the time. 127 00:05:27,561 --> 00:05:29,081 Speaker 3: And then he felt. 128 00:05:28,841 --> 00:05:30,801 Speaker 1: Bad, so he actually drove back to Melbourne with me, 129 00:05:31,121 --> 00:05:34,081 Speaker 1: his best friend. So I was pretty much done then 130 00:05:34,121 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: and I've got nothing. I'm done, We're done. And he 131 00:05:35,801 --> 00:05:39,001 Speaker 1: came back from the holiday and he was crying, and 132 00:05:39,081 --> 00:05:41,241 Speaker 1: the kids always asked like why I kept giving him 133 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,481 Speaker 1: chances or why we stayed together. I'm like, I felt bad. 134 00:05:43,601 --> 00:05:45,241 Speaker 1: It was very good at making me feel guilty. I 135 00:05:45,281 --> 00:05:47,681 Speaker 1: do and I am just generally like that I feel 136 00:05:47,721 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: sorry really easily. So I felt really bad when he 137 00:05:51,001 --> 00:05:52,601 Speaker 1: came back and he was like, you know, Mum made me. 138 00:05:52,641 --> 00:05:55,001 Speaker 1: I had no choice orrarah, and he goes, I had 139 00:05:55,041 --> 00:05:57,281 Speaker 1: the worst time up there, and I'm just like, yeah, 140 00:05:57,361 --> 00:05:58,761 Speaker 1: but he could have just packed up and come back 141 00:05:58,761 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: whenever you want it. He didn't have to stay for 142 00:06:00,121 --> 00:06:02,241 Speaker 1: the whole trip, so I was pretty much done. And 143 00:06:02,281 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: then yeah, he made me feel pretty bad, so I 144 00:06:05,521 --> 00:06:09,161 Speaker 1: felt really guilty. Then he decided he wanted to kiss 145 00:06:09,241 --> 00:06:11,001 Speaker 1: his mum off and out of spot. 146 00:06:11,081 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: That's what it's like. 147 00:06:11,721 --> 00:06:14,241 Speaker 1: We should have a kid, and I'm like, oh, I don't. 148 00:06:14,041 --> 00:06:15,281 Speaker 3: Know if this is a good idea. 149 00:06:15,681 --> 00:06:17,561 Speaker 1: We did two tries and I was pregnant, so I 150 00:06:17,561 --> 00:06:19,281 Speaker 1: was like, well, because I have like two gos, I 151 00:06:19,281 --> 00:06:21,001 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think this is a great idea. 152 00:06:21,081 --> 00:06:23,561 Speaker 1: Soci I'm like twenty one, I'm like, this is too late. 153 00:06:23,681 --> 00:06:25,881 Speaker 1: I was pregnant, so like I was like seven months 154 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,841 Speaker 1: pregnant on my twenty second birthday. And then that's after that, 155 00:06:28,921 --> 00:06:33,241 Speaker 1: I decided I wanted two kids close together and each 156 00:06:33,281 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: to the own. Like I don't judge, this is my choice. 157 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,961 Speaker 1: I never wanted kids with other people, Like I knew 158 00:06:38,961 --> 00:06:40,721 Speaker 1: we weren't going to stay together forever. I knew this 159 00:06:40,801 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: was going to end at some point, so I always 160 00:06:43,201 --> 00:06:45,121 Speaker 1: wanted kids close together. So I then go, all right, 161 00:06:45,201 --> 00:06:48,241 Speaker 1: let's have another one soon after, because like I said, 162 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:50,321 Speaker 1: I've never wanted to have kids. 163 00:06:50,081 --> 00:06:50,921 Speaker 3: With different doubts. 164 00:06:50,961 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: As bad as I know that can sound, that's my preference, 165 00:06:54,201 --> 00:06:57,001 Speaker 1: So we moved back to Sydney. 166 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,161 Speaker 3: That was pretty shit. Got pregnant with the second one. 167 00:07:00,401 --> 00:07:01,681 Speaker 4: What were you doing for work when all this was 168 00:07:01,681 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: going on. 169 00:07:02,401 --> 00:07:04,881 Speaker 1: I didn't work when I had the kids, so before 170 00:07:04,921 --> 00:07:08,001 Speaker 1: that I was just did hospitality, factory work, just basic 171 00:07:08,041 --> 00:07:09,881 Speaker 1: because I wasn't really doing much after school. 172 00:07:09,881 --> 00:07:11,041 Speaker 3: And then we're not pregnant. 173 00:07:11,601 --> 00:07:14,441 Speaker 1: When I was pregnant the second we got married, and 174 00:07:14,481 --> 00:07:18,401 Speaker 1: the thing was I found it interesting because like his mum, like, 175 00:07:18,481 --> 00:07:20,721 Speaker 1: I didn't want a poofy dress. I just wanted like 176 00:07:20,721 --> 00:07:22,361 Speaker 1: a simplest but because I had the bumps, She's like, 177 00:07:22,361 --> 00:07:23,721 Speaker 1: I know we should get something to cover. I'm like, 178 00:07:23,761 --> 00:07:25,401 Speaker 1: if I kind of knows I'm pregnant, I've already got 179 00:07:25,401 --> 00:07:28,321 Speaker 1: a kid. I don't get white matted. But yeah, I 180 00:07:28,361 --> 00:07:30,201 Speaker 1: end up with a big poofy dress and we got 181 00:07:30,201 --> 00:07:33,001 Speaker 1: married and it was shit. I don't know, erring was shit. 182 00:07:33,041 --> 00:07:35,921 Speaker 1: I always say, so how long? 183 00:07:35,921 --> 00:07:36,321 Speaker 4: Did last? 184 00:07:36,321 --> 00:07:39,681 Speaker 1: For ten years? So the kids were three, five and 185 00:07:39,761 --> 00:07:43,881 Speaker 1: seven when we separated. So my third was an accident. Yeah, 186 00:07:43,881 --> 00:07:47,001 Speaker 1: I was an accident, great accident. What a changer for 187 00:07:47,041 --> 00:07:49,681 Speaker 1: the world. Like she's like my little bff, like love 188 00:07:49,721 --> 00:07:51,961 Speaker 1: it to death. She's just like I know we like 189 00:07:52,001 --> 00:07:54,081 Speaker 1: I argue something I argue with my son like no 190 00:07:54,161 --> 00:07:56,321 Speaker 1: tomorrow and the oldest of we can have moments, but 191 00:07:56,761 --> 00:07:59,161 Speaker 1: me and the youngs never fight, never disagree, and never argue. 192 00:07:59,241 --> 00:08:03,001 Speaker 1: Like yeah, she's like the sweetest kid ever but very grateful. 193 00:08:03,041 --> 00:08:04,601 Speaker 1: But like you know, you sit there and you think 194 00:08:04,601 --> 00:08:06,321 Speaker 1: about a new like why am I even getting married? 195 00:08:06,321 --> 00:08:07,921 Speaker 1: Like I walk down the eye, I'd like bruises down 196 00:08:08,001 --> 00:08:10,241 Speaker 1: my leg, Like all the sudden, my thigh was covering bruises, 197 00:08:10,281 --> 00:08:12,561 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking from what from him? 198 00:08:12,961 --> 00:08:16,201 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, that's what that's because when you told me 199 00:08:16,241 --> 00:08:19,801 Speaker 2: that you didn't last and it wasn't working, I'm thinking, okay, 200 00:08:19,801 --> 00:08:21,521 Speaker 2: it wasn't working, but so you were abused. 201 00:08:22,001 --> 00:08:23,041 Speaker 3: There was a part of it. 202 00:08:23,041 --> 00:08:25,641 Speaker 1: He will never see it that way because the way 203 00:08:25,681 --> 00:08:30,001 Speaker 1: he justifies it is it was always my fault, like 204 00:08:30,161 --> 00:08:32,241 Speaker 1: I pushed him to that point by like what I 205 00:08:32,281 --> 00:08:34,841 Speaker 1: said or what I would do so and also you know, 206 00:08:35,001 --> 00:08:37,121 Speaker 1: you know he likes this drugs and alcohol and other women, 207 00:08:37,201 --> 00:08:38,881 Speaker 1: and I'm like I just like was whatever. 208 00:08:39,001 --> 00:08:40,041 Speaker 3: Even my mom was like just leave. 209 00:08:40,081 --> 00:08:42,161 Speaker 1: I'm like it was one of those moments where like 210 00:08:42,841 --> 00:08:44,801 Speaker 1: and like anyone who's been in any type of abuse, 211 00:08:44,881 --> 00:08:46,241 Speaker 1: it's really hard to leave because you get to a 212 00:08:46,241 --> 00:08:48,361 Speaker 1: point where you're scared, or you get to that point 213 00:08:48,401 --> 00:08:51,841 Speaker 1: where if I do this better, if I change is me? 214 00:08:52,001 --> 00:08:54,361 Speaker 1: If I, if I, if I No, you don't need 215 00:08:54,401 --> 00:08:56,801 Speaker 1: to do or change anything. It's on them. It's nothing 216 00:08:56,841 --> 00:08:59,481 Speaker 1: you do or say can justify that behavior. And that's 217 00:08:59,521 --> 00:09:01,441 Speaker 1: a sock of abuse. You get into that mindset and 218 00:09:01,481 --> 00:09:03,481 Speaker 1: I've seen and heard it where you're like, all right, 219 00:09:03,521 --> 00:09:04,961 Speaker 1: if I just changed. 220 00:09:04,601 --> 00:09:06,001 Speaker 3: This, he won't do this. 221 00:09:07,401 --> 00:09:13,001 Speaker 2: Sometimes like the abuser always thinks that they are doing 222 00:09:13,041 --> 00:09:15,921 Speaker 2: something wrong to get to this point, but you're not. 223 00:09:15,961 --> 00:09:18,961 Speaker 4: Really, it's it's the mind games that the person plays. 224 00:09:19,161 --> 00:09:20,441 Speaker 3: And I think that was the worst. 225 00:09:20,481 --> 00:09:22,921 Speaker 1: And it's like it's interesting, Like the kids like now 226 00:09:23,401 --> 00:09:25,721 Speaker 1: because I don't cry, it's very very rare. You'll see 227 00:09:25,761 --> 00:09:29,361 Speaker 1: me cry. Mostly kids a little bit. When they were younger. 228 00:09:29,441 --> 00:09:32,001 Speaker 1: There was a few moments the oldest probably got the 229 00:09:32,001 --> 00:09:35,001 Speaker 1: most youngest was the most protected from it. And that 230 00:09:35,081 --> 00:09:36,881 Speaker 1: was another is I remembers after a big New Year's 231 00:09:36,881 --> 00:09:38,641 Speaker 1: Eve party we had at the house and there was 232 00:09:38,681 --> 00:09:40,721 Speaker 1: just he had friends over with There's just heaps of 233 00:09:40,801 --> 00:09:43,641 Speaker 1: drugs and shit everywhere, and my mom and my sister 234 00:09:43,681 --> 00:09:47,841 Speaker 1: were there, right, We're there, and I'm remember like. 235 00:09:47,841 --> 00:09:48,841 Speaker 3: We got into a big funcs. 236 00:09:48,881 --> 00:09:50,801 Speaker 1: My mom lost her ship because there's this girl half 237 00:09:50,801 --> 00:09:53,041 Speaker 1: passed out on ice in the toilet. We had one toilet. 238 00:09:53,041 --> 00:09:55,241 Speaker 1: Now the kids need to use the toilet. He kicks 239 00:09:55,281 --> 00:09:57,721 Speaker 1: my mom mat And then next morning I'm getting dressed 240 00:09:57,721 --> 00:09:59,401 Speaker 1: in getting ready to go my mom's for lunch with 241 00:09:59,481 --> 00:10:01,481 Speaker 1: my sister was coming down because like me and my 242 00:10:01,521 --> 00:10:03,521 Speaker 1: sister were very close, we all had kids at the 243 00:10:03,561 --> 00:10:05,921 Speaker 1: same time, which was really funny, like both our girls 244 00:10:05,961 --> 00:10:08,121 Speaker 1: are about to be twenty, both boys are eighteen, and 245 00:10:08,161 --> 00:10:10,401 Speaker 1: I've got the little extra. And he looked at me 246 00:10:10,441 --> 00:10:12,241 Speaker 1: and goes, I've had enough, packageing and get the fuck out, 247 00:10:12,641 --> 00:10:14,721 Speaker 1: And I did the next day. Didn't stay there that night. 248 00:10:14,841 --> 00:10:16,961 Speaker 1: Next day, I packed all our stuff and I was like, 249 00:10:17,041 --> 00:10:19,801 Speaker 1: my Mum's wow. So it was like I was waiting 250 00:10:19,801 --> 00:10:21,681 Speaker 1: because every time I did try and leave, it got 251 00:10:21,761 --> 00:10:23,961 Speaker 1: very volatile, very violent, and even then it was still 252 00:10:24,001 --> 00:10:25,721 Speaker 1: there was violent and there was restraining order and it 253 00:10:25,841 --> 00:10:29,721 Speaker 1: was it was ridiculous, like so much anxiety and just stress. 254 00:10:30,161 --> 00:10:32,481 Speaker 1: But ye, when he said those words in done and dusted, 255 00:10:32,521 --> 00:10:34,681 Speaker 1: I grabbed my shit and left. I was waiting for that. 256 00:10:35,081 --> 00:10:36,761 Speaker 1: I was waiting for him to say those words so 257 00:10:36,841 --> 00:10:39,321 Speaker 1: I could just it was easier for you to leave then, yeah, 258 00:10:39,401 --> 00:10:42,601 Speaker 1: because it was his decision. He had enough. And it 259 00:10:42,641 --> 00:10:44,561 Speaker 1: was pretty crappy for a while. Like, you know, it's 260 00:10:44,601 --> 00:10:47,641 Speaker 1: been what thirteen years now, what's the worst that he 261 00:10:47,681 --> 00:10:48,321 Speaker 1: ever did to here that? 262 00:10:48,441 --> 00:10:49,801 Speaker 4: Like? What was the worst place? 263 00:10:49,881 --> 00:10:55,801 Speaker 1: A few I think the worst would have been. We're 264 00:10:55,801 --> 00:10:59,481 Speaker 1: living in a townhouse at Maruba Beach and actually recently 265 00:10:59,521 --> 00:11:01,841 Speaker 1: we went. I went to Sydney for work, which is 266 00:11:01,841 --> 00:11:03,681 Speaker 1: a total bust for me, but I think because there 267 00:11:03,721 --> 00:11:05,441 Speaker 1: was a lot of memories there for me, been for 268 00:11:05,481 --> 00:11:07,321 Speaker 1: such a long time, and I work with one of 269 00:11:07,361 --> 00:11:08,921 Speaker 1: my friends, one my best friend, and we went for 270 00:11:08,961 --> 00:11:11,201 Speaker 1: a drive to the places I used to live. And 271 00:11:11,241 --> 00:11:13,881 Speaker 1: when I got to the townhouse without Mariubra Beach, I 272 00:11:13,921 --> 00:11:17,241 Speaker 1: just sort of sat there. And when we lived there, 273 00:11:17,401 --> 00:11:21,881 Speaker 1: it just was the most lonely isolating time in my life, 274 00:11:22,001 --> 00:11:24,561 Speaker 1: like no choice. I was stuck without choice. So that's 275 00:11:24,561 --> 00:11:27,001 Speaker 1: why I'm so big on my kids having choices and freedom, 276 00:11:27,321 --> 00:11:29,481 Speaker 1: Like I never want them to feel like that. Nothing 277 00:11:29,561 --> 00:11:32,601 Speaker 1: worse than being stuck, whether you're a kid, adult, male, 278 00:11:32,641 --> 00:11:34,681 Speaker 1: for no. I think that's the worst feeling. You got 279 00:11:34,721 --> 00:11:36,921 Speaker 1: no choice. I remember we're there, we got into an argument, 280 00:11:37,641 --> 00:11:39,681 Speaker 1: and I remember the youngest was asleep upstairs, and I 281 00:11:39,721 --> 00:11:42,601 Speaker 1: was about seven or eight months pregnant, and I think 282 00:11:42,601 --> 00:11:44,041 Speaker 1: he wanted to go out and we didn't have much 283 00:11:44,081 --> 00:11:45,441 Speaker 1: of mine, and I'm like, I needed to get food 284 00:11:45,521 --> 00:11:47,161 Speaker 1: and he wanted to go get drugs. 285 00:11:47,281 --> 00:11:49,481 Speaker 3: And I remember taking about four. 286 00:11:49,361 --> 00:11:51,521 Speaker 1: Or five steps up, but I said, you're such a 287 00:11:51,561 --> 00:11:53,521 Speaker 1: drug or something along those lines. He didn't like what 288 00:11:53,561 --> 00:11:55,681 Speaker 1: I said, and ores I remember is taking about four 289 00:11:55,761 --> 00:11:57,561 Speaker 1: or five steps up and he's just grubbed me by 290 00:11:57,601 --> 00:11:59,241 Speaker 1: the back of the hand and just dragged me, like 291 00:11:59,561 --> 00:12:02,561 Speaker 1: reefed me down down the stairs into the kitchen, and 292 00:12:02,841 --> 00:12:04,641 Speaker 1: I kept the knife and he was like smacking it 293 00:12:04,681 --> 00:12:07,161 Speaker 1: on the bear above me, and he was hitting around 294 00:12:07,161 --> 00:12:09,321 Speaker 1: me because I'm thinking because I was pregnant, that's why he 295 00:12:09,441 --> 00:12:12,721 Speaker 1: just wasn't at me. But as I'm sitting there thinking, 296 00:12:12,761 --> 00:12:14,721 Speaker 1: is I've got my doors upstairs? You know, he saw 297 00:12:14,761 --> 00:12:17,521 Speaker 1: one and a half year old, And I'm sitting there thinking, 298 00:12:17,601 --> 00:12:18,841 Speaker 1: is this the moment He's going to kill me? And 299 00:12:18,881 --> 00:12:21,241 Speaker 1: I had a few of those moments with him where 300 00:12:21,361 --> 00:12:23,201 Speaker 1: I thought, is he going to kill me? 301 00:12:23,241 --> 00:12:23,601 Speaker 3: And then he. 302 00:12:23,561 --> 00:12:26,721 Speaker 1: Finally, you know, finished yelling at I don't. It was 303 00:12:26,721 --> 00:12:28,481 Speaker 1: all like a blur and he left. I'm just sitting 304 00:12:28,481 --> 00:12:30,241 Speaker 1: there trying to calm down and breathe because I was 305 00:12:30,401 --> 00:12:33,761 Speaker 1: quite pregnant at the time and my dog Max at 306 00:12:33,801 --> 00:12:37,281 Speaker 1: the time, even when I felt the most alone, I 307 00:12:37,361 --> 00:12:39,841 Speaker 1: didn't feel alone because of him, so my dog Max. 308 00:12:39,841 --> 00:12:41,281 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I just felt him next to me, 309 00:12:41,281 --> 00:12:43,001 Speaker 1: like he leans his head up against me and looks 310 00:12:43,001 --> 00:12:44,681 Speaker 1: at me, and I'm just sitting there with him, and 311 00:12:44,721 --> 00:12:46,241 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm okay, I'm okay. And I just had 312 00:12:46,281 --> 00:12:48,481 Speaker 1: to calm down because I was was like seven or 313 00:12:48,521 --> 00:12:50,921 Speaker 1: eight months pregnant. But there's been a few of those 314 00:12:50,961 --> 00:12:53,361 Speaker 1: moments where like like one time when. 315 00:12:53,201 --> 00:12:54,561 Speaker 3: I wasn't it was just me and. 316 00:12:54,521 --> 00:12:56,961 Speaker 1: The youngest and I said something I didn't like, and 317 00:12:57,001 --> 00:12:59,321 Speaker 1: I always and the worst thing is is like I 318 00:12:59,321 --> 00:13:01,001 Speaker 1: always knew when I said something that was going to 319 00:13:01,081 --> 00:13:04,401 Speaker 1: make him snap because of just the way his mind worked. 320 00:13:04,481 --> 00:13:05,721 Speaker 3: And I remember he just grab. 321 00:13:05,521 --> 00:13:07,881 Speaker 1: My throat and just threw him up against like the corner, 322 00:13:07,961 --> 00:13:09,801 Speaker 1: up on the counter, and I'm like I couldn't breathe 323 00:13:09,841 --> 00:13:11,761 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's like I go back out of it, 324 00:13:11,801 --> 00:13:13,961 Speaker 1: like I was stuck in this corner. And the worst 325 00:13:13,961 --> 00:13:15,801 Speaker 1: part is like my youngest is at the table, like 326 00:13:15,881 --> 00:13:19,521 Speaker 1: just happily watching YouTube videos eating a banana. And that 327 00:13:19,641 --> 00:13:21,641 Speaker 1: was a point also there where I'm like I couldn't breathe. 328 00:13:21,641 --> 00:13:22,641 Speaker 1: I'm like, is this where he's going. 329 00:13:22,601 --> 00:13:22,921 Speaker 3: To kill me? 330 00:13:22,921 --> 00:13:25,601 Speaker 1: And eventually like it's like reality hits him and then 331 00:13:25,601 --> 00:13:28,881 Speaker 1: he just stops and just walks off. But it's always justified. 332 00:13:29,241 --> 00:13:32,041 Speaker 1: It's always justified. So and that's the other reason I 333 00:13:32,041 --> 00:13:34,601 Speaker 1: don't cry is all the years is I never cried 334 00:13:34,681 --> 00:13:37,081 Speaker 1: or got upset because I didn't want to give him 335 00:13:37,081 --> 00:13:39,161 Speaker 1: the satisfaction. It was also him wanting to see me 336 00:13:39,201 --> 00:13:41,241 Speaker 1: cry and get upset and break me to a degree 337 00:13:41,481 --> 00:13:43,721 Speaker 1: because I had too much of a backbone. Women don't 338 00:13:43,761 --> 00:13:47,241 Speaker 1: have backbones. Men are above women. Like it's that hierarchy 339 00:13:47,281 --> 00:13:49,721 Speaker 1: how he sees it. So, which is kind of hard 340 00:13:49,761 --> 00:13:51,281 Speaker 1: now because like I said, I feel bad because like 341 00:13:51,521 --> 00:13:52,721 Speaker 1: you know, like even when the kids, I'm like, wait, 342 00:13:52,761 --> 00:13:54,401 Speaker 1: you crying, that is not a reason to cry because 343 00:13:54,441 --> 00:13:56,761 Speaker 1: it's not like because I don't utually cry when i'm 344 00:13:56,801 --> 00:13:57,561 Speaker 1: angry because. 345 00:13:57,321 --> 00:14:00,601 Speaker 3: I get very angry. I have a really bad temper 346 00:14:00,681 --> 00:14:03,641 Speaker 3: on me, so, like, you know, it is what it is. 347 00:14:03,681 --> 00:14:04,081 Speaker 3: I don't. 348 00:14:05,161 --> 00:14:09,161 Speaker 1: Everyone processes things differently, and it's very hard with me 349 00:14:09,201 --> 00:14:11,521 Speaker 1: because I get it. It's shit and it happened. But 350 00:14:11,561 --> 00:14:13,841 Speaker 1: I'm like, it happened. I can't change it. It's how 351 00:14:13,921 --> 00:14:17,081 Speaker 1: you learn from things. So I'm like, cool, it's happened. 352 00:14:17,521 --> 00:14:20,361 Speaker 1: You know, I'll process it ideal, I accept move the 353 00:14:20,361 --> 00:14:23,401 Speaker 1: fuck on. Like I don't sit there and go, oh 354 00:14:23,401 --> 00:14:24,801 Speaker 1: my god. It was so hard, Oh my god, my 355 00:14:24,801 --> 00:14:26,801 Speaker 1: life because I got so much to be grateful for 356 00:14:26,921 --> 00:14:28,881 Speaker 1: as well. And if you sit there and always think 357 00:14:28,881 --> 00:14:31,801 Speaker 1: about all the bad shit in your life all the time, 358 00:14:32,401 --> 00:14:34,081 Speaker 1: you're never going to kind of pass it or get over. 359 00:14:34,081 --> 00:14:35,321 Speaker 3: It's always just going to be there. 360 00:14:35,641 --> 00:14:37,441 Speaker 1: And I'm like, and I kind of have them tell 361 00:14:37,481 --> 00:14:39,521 Speaker 1: them I can't change it. It's a waste of energy. 362 00:14:39,601 --> 00:14:43,161 Speaker 1: It's exhausting. I'm like, I'm exhausted enough. So that kind 363 00:14:43,161 --> 00:14:44,801 Speaker 1: of mindset in the sense. 364 00:14:46,081 --> 00:14:49,401 Speaker 4: So what when you left him? What made you turn 365 00:14:49,481 --> 00:14:50,081 Speaker 4: to the industry? 366 00:14:50,761 --> 00:14:51,601 Speaker 3: That was interesting. 367 00:14:51,761 --> 00:14:55,001 Speaker 1: So essentially, when I moved to my mom's I found 368 00:14:55,041 --> 00:14:56,441 Speaker 1: out he took a loan at a credit cards I 369 00:14:56,441 --> 00:14:58,881 Speaker 1: had about ten over ten grain of debt in my 370 00:14:58,961 --> 00:15:02,561 Speaker 1: name and I just joined agency, went like to factory work, 371 00:15:03,161 --> 00:15:05,921 Speaker 1: so we put it in your name, my loan and 372 00:15:05,961 --> 00:15:08,681 Speaker 1: a credit card in my name and then used to obviously, 373 00:15:08,721 --> 00:15:10,641 Speaker 1: and I had to pay it all back, but left 374 00:15:10,601 --> 00:15:13,641 Speaker 1: me there. So I essentially just I did double shifts 375 00:15:13,641 --> 00:15:17,601 Speaker 1: different factories. I just busted ass and I just worked hard. Obviously, 376 00:15:17,641 --> 00:15:20,201 Speaker 1: I was some sentiling to a degree, but that on 377 00:15:20,241 --> 00:15:21,121 Speaker 1: it gets you so far. 378 00:15:22,081 --> 00:15:24,801 Speaker 3: And it was really random for me. 379 00:15:24,761 --> 00:15:28,801 Speaker 1: Because like I had no idea about the industry, no idea, 380 00:15:29,001 --> 00:15:32,881 Speaker 1: no idea really about brothels, about your private escorting. I 381 00:15:32,921 --> 00:15:34,961 Speaker 1: was just like, I've always had a good sex drivee 382 00:15:34,961 --> 00:15:37,761 Speaker 1: so not even not long after we separate, didn't take 383 00:15:37,761 --> 00:15:39,281 Speaker 1: me long to go off and have my own fun. 384 00:15:39,401 --> 00:15:42,841 Speaker 1: And I just remember like one night sitting there, going, 385 00:15:42,881 --> 00:15:44,281 Speaker 1: you know, I should be able to make money out 386 00:15:44,281 --> 00:15:45,961 Speaker 1: of this, like I need to do this, Like you know, 387 00:15:46,321 --> 00:15:47,801 Speaker 1: the metality of why fuck for free. 388 00:15:47,681 --> 00:15:48,521 Speaker 3: When you can get paid? 389 00:15:53,281 --> 00:15:55,041 Speaker 1: It's always been one of those sayings. I'm like, does 390 00:15:55,081 --> 00:15:58,281 Speaker 1: not get paid. And I jumped online and I found 391 00:15:58,321 --> 00:16:00,121 Speaker 1: a good old dodgy website like Canto. 392 00:16:00,121 --> 00:16:01,641 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever heard of Lake Canto. 393 00:16:02,361 --> 00:16:04,401 Speaker 1: You can like buy such up sell stuff like this, 394 00:16:04,681 --> 00:16:06,801 Speaker 1: but there's like an escorting section. Back then, when I 395 00:16:06,881 --> 00:16:09,241 Speaker 1: jumped on it, there wasn't an escorting section, so you 396 00:16:09,281 --> 00:16:10,801 Speaker 1: had to word it like I'd be like, can you 397 00:16:10,841 --> 00:16:13,721 Speaker 1: sing a mom needing some help? Anything and everything kind 398 00:16:13,721 --> 00:16:14,401 Speaker 1: of available. 399 00:16:14,441 --> 00:16:15,441 Speaker 3: It was like very like. 400 00:16:16,121 --> 00:16:19,441 Speaker 2: A bit like skeptical and a bit nervous about going 401 00:16:19,481 --> 00:16:21,921 Speaker 2: into this. I know you've just said then you know 402 00:16:21,961 --> 00:16:23,521 Speaker 2: a way of sex, you know, and you your sex 403 00:16:23,601 --> 00:16:26,641 Speaker 2: drive was high, but now you're going into an industry 404 00:16:26,681 --> 00:16:28,721 Speaker 2: where you don't know who you're going to get. 405 00:16:28,801 --> 00:16:31,361 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, god, no, no idea. I went into a 406 00:16:31,481 --> 00:16:34,801 Speaker 1: very naive I'm very likely because I look back at 407 00:16:34,841 --> 00:16:36,201 Speaker 1: some of like when I tell some of the stories, 408 00:16:36,241 --> 00:16:37,601 Speaker 1: it was like, how the fuck are you alive? I'm like, 409 00:16:37,641 --> 00:16:39,881 Speaker 1: I don't know, babe, I don't know. But I think 410 00:16:40,161 --> 00:16:41,801 Speaker 1: the biggest thing I say in this industry is you 411 00:16:41,841 --> 00:16:44,361 Speaker 1: always go with your guide instinct if something doesn't sit right, 412 00:16:44,521 --> 00:16:46,201 Speaker 1: no matter if your broth or pripate wherever you are, 413 00:16:46,201 --> 00:16:48,801 Speaker 1: if something doesn't feel right, do onally trust that. That's 414 00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:50,241 Speaker 1: a big thing for me, is I always with my 415 00:16:50,281 --> 00:16:52,601 Speaker 1: guy if something don't feel right, I just would ignore it, 416 00:16:52,641 --> 00:16:55,361 Speaker 1: but you know it'd be random, like a lot of 417 00:16:55,441 --> 00:16:58,841 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you the amount of car parks, parks, buildings, 418 00:16:58,961 --> 00:17:04,041 Speaker 1: alleyways I have had sex or blow jobs in I'd 419 00:17:04,281 --> 00:17:06,681 Speaker 1: like driving like another think. I put it because, like 420 00:17:06,801 --> 00:17:08,801 Speaker 1: I mentioned, my kids are fib and like everyone finds 421 00:17:08,801 --> 00:17:11,281 Speaker 1: it interesting because my kids are older. They're sixteen, eighteen, 422 00:17:11,281 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: and soon to be twenty. I'm very transparent with them. 423 00:17:13,441 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm very open and honest. So my households three rules. 424 00:17:16,761 --> 00:17:19,321 Speaker 1: Don't life to me, don't steal from me. Always let 425 00:17:19,321 --> 00:17:20,801 Speaker 1: me know where you are and who you're with. You 426 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,161 Speaker 1: break you only of those who you're fucked, I'll beat you. 427 00:17:23,321 --> 00:17:25,721 Speaker 1: I'm the old school wog. I will literally be. I've 428 00:17:25,721 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: got into punch ons with my son. We've had some 429 00:17:27,321 --> 00:17:30,561 Speaker 1: killer arguments. Like they know it. They don't break those 430 00:17:30,561 --> 00:17:33,281 Speaker 1: wills so that I expect full honesty from them. 431 00:17:33,321 --> 00:17:34,241 Speaker 3: They expect it from me. 432 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:36,521 Speaker 1: And my kid's being a bit older and they kin't 433 00:17:36,521 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: of get and who wasn't going to fucking hide and 434 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: lie this at that part. No, it was when I 435 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,961 Speaker 1: got back into industry about having a bit of a breaker. 436 00:17:43,961 --> 00:17:45,321 Speaker 3: Is when they found out about it. 437 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: But sometimes we'll be going for a drop, like God, 438 00:17:47,201 --> 00:17:49,121 Speaker 1: I've had sex in that park or that car park. 439 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:49,921 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not going to. 440 00:17:49,921 --> 00:17:50,881 Speaker 4: Pay sex in that park? 441 00:17:50,961 --> 00:17:53,281 Speaker 1: Well yeah yeah all the time, Like and in the playground, 442 00:17:53,521 --> 00:17:56,521 Speaker 1: like it's great fund one job. 443 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:58,041 Speaker 3: In that car park and a random car. 444 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,041 Speaker 4: What clients hell have sex in a playground? 445 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,001 Speaker 1: The ones obviously they aren't single, and. 446 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,521 Speaker 4: That's just meeting. 447 00:18:07,721 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: Is that what they do the let's just meet there 448 00:18:09,521 --> 00:18:10,841 Speaker 2: and you and you meet it. 449 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,521 Speaker 1: It depends on what they asked were So it's sort 450 00:18:12,521 --> 00:18:14,881 Speaker 1: of like whether they wanted it so back in the day, 451 00:18:14,921 --> 00:18:16,561 Speaker 1: so not now I don't want They got to get 452 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: a lot more now to do anything outdoors because I've 453 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: got into the comfort of using hotels and service apartments. 454 00:18:22,241 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: I like myself a bed or a couch. Get Like 455 00:18:24,721 --> 00:18:26,521 Speaker 1: I said, I'm getting old man. My pones can only 456 00:18:26,561 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: take some master going. So back then it'd be like 457 00:18:29,561 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: it is, like I said, it's very different now, Like 458 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: you still get asked now, but like you know, they're 459 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,041 Speaker 1: not single and they. 460 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:36,561 Speaker 3: Don't have a place. 461 00:18:36,801 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: You listentially said that you can host, so they can't 462 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,761 Speaker 1: do it our call to their place. 463 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: So whether then you know, were you happy to meet there? 464 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: Or is that just because you were you were naive 465 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,201 Speaker 2: back in when you first started no idea. 466 00:18:46,441 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: So like I'm talking about fourteen years ago. Like so 467 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,801 Speaker 1: I started about twenty eight, twenty nine in industry, Like 468 00:18:51,801 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: I said, I'm. 469 00:18:52,201 --> 00:18:52,801 Speaker 3: Now forty two. 470 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,001 Speaker 1: So like good old car blow jobs at the park, 471 00:18:56,281 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: like one hundred dollars car blow jobs, I'm. 472 00:18:57,761 --> 00:18:59,601 Speaker 3: Like, the fuck was I do we one hundred bucks? 473 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: But then it comes down to the sheer desperation, right, 474 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: the sheet desperation of money, and the reason being is 475 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: no matter how hard and how much I worked at 476 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: these factories, there was no out. I needed to also 477 00:19:11,921 --> 00:19:13,561 Speaker 1: get the fuck out of my mum's house. I needed 478 00:19:13,561 --> 00:19:15,121 Speaker 1: to get a rental and this was the only way 479 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: I was going to do it. And I remember, like 480 00:19:18,761 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: some of the stories I tell now, people are like 481 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: Cyrus and like I always come down to like this 482 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,561 Speaker 1: one and like you think now, fourteen years ago it 483 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: was three hundred bucks, So like it was decent money 484 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,481 Speaker 1: three years for That's what the abandoned factor in Footscray. Okay, 485 00:19:34,681 --> 00:19:37,761 Speaker 1: so this young guy's messaged me and he had this fantasy, goes, 486 00:19:38,001 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: can you meet me out? This abandoned factory in Footscray. 487 00:19:40,721 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: You know, we just jump the fence. We'll get in there. 488 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,641 Speaker 1: He goes, I won't even take that long, you know, literally, 489 00:19:46,681 --> 00:19:49,321 Speaker 1: I just bene over, we have sex, and we're done, right. 490 00:19:49,561 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: I'm oks sure, why not fucking naive? Get there? 491 00:19:52,801 --> 00:19:55,521 Speaker 1: And when I look at it now, so we did 492 00:19:55,521 --> 00:19:55,961 Speaker 1: we get there? 493 00:19:55,961 --> 00:19:57,521 Speaker 4: And mine? What were you wearing the jump offence? 494 00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,241 Speaker 3: Well, I had a short skirt on. 495 00:19:59,321 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: It was a warm summer night, mind you, barb. So 496 00:20:05,241 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: people like he knew it was a bad boy got 497 00:20:07,441 --> 00:20:09,121 Speaker 1: to my It's like just see and it's a bad 498 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: by fence we've. 499 00:20:09,761 --> 00:20:10,441 Speaker 3: Got to jump over. 500 00:20:10,521 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: But I've bought a blanket thing to put over the 501 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: fence with us to climb over it. 502 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,801 Speaker 3: And I'm like cool, sure, let's go. 503 00:20:16,041 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: And back then like in Footscatee, like it's a lot 504 00:20:18,561 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: more developed now, and it was this abandon like warehouse 505 00:20:21,441 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: factory and there was like nothing for like I couldn't 506 00:20:24,201 --> 00:20:27,001 Speaker 1: see anything for at least it was a good kilometer away. 507 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: So like we get in. 508 00:20:28,521 --> 00:20:31,521 Speaker 1: Get into this factory as broken glass everywhere. And he 509 00:20:31,561 --> 00:20:34,481 Speaker 1: did say we're close, toad shoes, it's got my steak 510 00:20:34,481 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: because I with my cute little short skirt and we 511 00:20:36,681 --> 00:20:38,801 Speaker 1: get into this factory glass every I'm looking and going, 512 00:20:39,241 --> 00:20:41,561 Speaker 1: this is a little bit disgusting, not thinking he could 513 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: just kill me, you like, very naive. And there's this 514 00:20:44,241 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: like rotten couch there and always like it was leterally 515 00:20:46,681 --> 00:20:50,041 Speaker 1: put my arms on the couch, bend over in doggies. 516 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,881 Speaker 1: He was done in like three minutes, done, and Dust 517 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,321 Speaker 1: said he was stoked. It was fine. We jumped the 518 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: fence and off on my merry way I went. But 519 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,961 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there gone, he could have just set my throat. 520 00:20:58,201 --> 00:21:00,321 Speaker 1: He could have stabbed me, And I'm thinking, like he 521 00:21:00,321 --> 00:21:01,721 Speaker 1: could have killed me and left me then who the 522 00:21:01,721 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: fuck would have found me? And when because there was 523 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,721 Speaker 1: nothing around? It was abandoned Like it's being so naive, 524 00:21:08,761 --> 00:21:10,721 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure stuff like that still happens these 525 00:21:10,801 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: days with girls, Like they go into things and I 526 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: still hear stories. But like, you know, that would have 527 00:21:15,681 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: been like one of the moments I went not back there. 528 00:21:18,241 --> 00:21:19,081 Speaker 3: Now I look back and. 529 00:21:19,041 --> 00:21:21,801 Speaker 4: Go, So who was your first climt Can you remember 530 00:21:21,801 --> 00:21:22,321 Speaker 4: your first client? 531 00:21:22,721 --> 00:21:24,841 Speaker 1: I think the first time was actually a little bit 532 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: by accident. 533 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: Oh so you didn't you didn't get you know, you 534 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: didn't get one off of what that's like. 535 00:21:30,001 --> 00:21:34,761 Speaker 4: You said that it was just it. 536 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: Was kind of like a hook up and ended up 537 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: giving me money afterwards. I think he thought I was 538 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,321 Speaker 1: a working girl, So you. 539 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: Just still get anyway take it. 540 00:21:42,441 --> 00:21:44,761 Speaker 3: I have no shame, and I don't. I've got no shame. 541 00:21:44,801 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm very very proud of who i am, where I've 542 00:21:47,001 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: gotten and what I do. And that's a big thing 543 00:21:49,801 --> 00:21:52,041 Speaker 1: is because there's such a big stigma to this industry. 544 00:21:52,481 --> 00:21:55,761 Speaker 1: And I will wholeheartedly say, well, like and it's it's 545 00:21:55,761 --> 00:21:57,521 Speaker 1: a no long joke with it. I don't feel guilt, 546 00:21:57,561 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't feel remorse if you ain't fucking your husband. 547 00:21:59,761 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: I am like, pretty much like all these. 548 00:22:01,761 --> 00:22:04,721 Speaker 1: Women out there that have such a big judgmental factor, 549 00:22:04,761 --> 00:22:06,561 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you're not having sex with your husband, 550 00:22:06,681 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: I will, you're not giving it to him, I will 551 00:22:09,241 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: because at the end of the night, as you're not 552 00:22:10,801 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: men and women are programmed differently. 553 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 3: And everyone is different. 554 00:22:13,681 --> 00:22:16,521 Speaker 1: There's always comes down to a need with men over women. 555 00:22:16,801 --> 00:22:19,321 Speaker 1: Like if you honestly think you haven't had sex with 556 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,121 Speaker 1: your husband for six months and he's got a good 557 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,521 Speaker 1: sex drive and he's healthy unless there's that small percentage 558 00:22:24,561 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: out there that won't. 559 00:22:25,521 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: But majority do. 560 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,401 Speaker 1: Majority feel guilty somewhat, but they have needs that need 561 00:22:29,441 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: to be met. 562 00:22:30,001 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 3: Hans White's hold this industry for a reason, do you. 563 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: Know what I mean? But I look back at it 564 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: and like, I've had some great times. Like I remember 565 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: the one that we met up and in a like 566 00:22:40,681 --> 00:22:42,721 Speaker 1: aside one of the streets of Melbourne, and it goes 567 00:22:42,761 --> 00:22:45,801 Speaker 1: to me his fantasy was to be watched by strangers. 568 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: So we met up and we go to the I 569 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: don't even know if it's actually still has the adult movies. 570 00:22:50,721 --> 00:22:53,001 Speaker 1: One of the club exits in the city downstairs, you 571 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: pain and you go watch and Scott like Pawn, So 572 00:22:55,201 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: it's couches. 573 00:22:55,761 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: Everyone preature. Those couches would be disgusting. 574 00:22:58,041 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: Oh we met up. 575 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:00,921 Speaker 3: We getting there. 576 00:23:00,921 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: We's paid to go down to watch the movie. Whether 577 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: there's Pawn on the screen moves dingy. It was gross 578 00:23:07,041 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: and we had sex in the cinemas there, which I 579 00:23:08,961 --> 00:23:11,241 Speaker 1: don't think you're meant to. Hoping that someone was going 580 00:23:11,281 --> 00:23:12,161 Speaker 1: to be there to watch us. 581 00:23:12,321 --> 00:23:13,801 Speaker 3: No one did. He was a little bit disappointed, but 582 00:23:13,801 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: he still had a great time. 583 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: Should have won easy to clothes and what these really 584 00:23:16,721 --> 00:23:18,441 Speaker 1: tight jeans that was about to get on and all 585 00:23:18,681 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: it was hot and sweaty, and I was like, I'll 586 00:23:21,041 --> 00:23:22,961 Speaker 1: think back now, that was also about fourteen years ago, 587 00:23:23,001 --> 00:23:25,761 Speaker 1: and that was probably about four hundred dollars, Like would 588 00:23:25,761 --> 00:23:26,521 Speaker 1: I do that now? 589 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,761 Speaker 3: Probably? Like I said, probably probably for the right amount. 590 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,001 Speaker 1: I would. But you know, but there are still those 591 00:23:34,001 --> 00:23:35,721 Speaker 1: things I won't do. No amount of money. It's the 592 00:23:35,801 --> 00:23:41,281 Speaker 1: ongoing joke, no amount of money would I eat us? Okay, 593 00:23:40,561 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: that is one of those like we always have an 594 00:23:42,961 --> 00:23:44,881 Speaker 1: ongoing joke us working girls, like we need to work. 595 00:23:44,921 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 3: You're like, what wouldn't you do? 596 00:23:46,441 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I would never eat us, Like it would 597 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:50,281 Speaker 1: have to be millions of dollars. 598 00:23:50,321 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: And there's a reason behind that. 599 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,281 Speaker 1: Is because the amount of times after bookings guys get 600 00:23:55,321 --> 00:23:57,481 Speaker 1: off the bed and their skid MUCKs on the bed, 601 00:23:57,921 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's very notorious. Every girl's dealt with it. 602 00:24:01,281 --> 00:24:03,361 Speaker 1: Every working girl has dealt with it to a degree, 603 00:24:03,681 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: like don't you wash your ass? Oh my god, like 604 00:24:06,561 --> 00:24:09,721 Speaker 1: don't you wash your ass? Like the fuck? So that's 605 00:24:09,721 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: another thing is like that. So I did that for 606 00:24:12,681 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: a while off like Canto and go to random houses 607 00:24:15,721 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: or parks or cars. And for me, it's always been 608 00:24:18,481 --> 00:24:20,961 Speaker 1: a lot of blow jobs because as I've already told you, that. 609 00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:23,561 Speaker 3: Is that is my specialty. 610 00:24:24,441 --> 00:24:26,241 Speaker 1: But yeah, I did that for a while, moved out 611 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,561 Speaker 1: and I sort of end up meeting someone. It was 612 00:24:28,561 --> 00:24:30,561 Speaker 1: actually one of the dads was getting divorced from school. 613 00:24:30,561 --> 00:24:33,281 Speaker 1: We're up meeting and we sort of started dating, and 614 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:36,801 Speaker 1: so I sort of wrapped it up, stopped working and 615 00:24:37,681 --> 00:24:39,761 Speaker 1: you know, we're dating for a while. It was like 616 00:24:39,801 --> 00:24:42,481 Speaker 1: about three years. I was hitting into the fourth year 617 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget this time, Like the youngest had 618 00:24:45,001 --> 00:24:48,241 Speaker 1: a birthday party, and no matter how much I worked 619 00:24:48,521 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: the nursery came to manh how many night shifts I did, 620 00:24:50,281 --> 00:24:52,481 Speaker 1: or how much trame care I did, I still didn't 621 00:24:52,481 --> 00:24:53,201 Speaker 1: have enough money. 622 00:24:53,281 --> 00:24:53,921 Speaker 3: I was struggling. 623 00:24:53,921 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 4: It was the money again. 624 00:24:55,241 --> 00:24:57,761 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like week to week, like there's I'd 625 00:24:57,761 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: be working sixty seventy eighty hour weeks right barely sleeping, 626 00:25:01,041 --> 00:25:03,241 Speaker 1: killing myself and it was still a struggle. My youngest 627 00:25:03,241 --> 00:25:06,361 Speaker 1: wanted a roller skating party, and I remember I was struggling. 628 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,281 Speaker 1: I went fuck it, chucked up an add on Locnto 629 00:25:08,961 --> 00:25:10,961 Speaker 1: and went to fuck. 630 00:25:10,761 --> 00:25:12,801 Speaker 4: It, to send in the party and just fall put 631 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: another on. 632 00:25:13,961 --> 00:25:16,961 Speaker 3: I didn't pay for this motherfucker party. I don't. 633 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: I never wanted my kids to miss out because I 634 00:25:19,241 --> 00:25:19,961 Speaker 1: was a single parents. 635 00:25:20,001 --> 00:25:21,281 Speaker 4: How much would you make a week. 636 00:25:21,561 --> 00:25:24,481 Speaker 1: Back then it would vary, make a few thousand dollars 637 00:25:24,521 --> 00:25:26,801 Speaker 1: here or there, thousand, maybe five hundred. Like I said, 638 00:25:26,801 --> 00:25:29,761 Speaker 1: I wasn't charging a lot, so like not to think. 639 00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: It's very unpredictable the industry. It's very up. I charge 640 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,841 Speaker 1: more now. Yeah, I have up my prices, but I 641 00:25:36,961 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: keep my prices like I say, mid range purely because 642 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,881 Speaker 1: one it's hard to stay. 643 00:25:42,921 --> 00:25:43,561 Speaker 3: I want to be gone. 644 00:25:43,561 --> 00:25:45,441 Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing like one thousand dollars an hour, 645 00:25:45,681 --> 00:25:48,521 Speaker 1: which what my porn stuff sort of it is. But 646 00:25:48,961 --> 00:25:51,041 Speaker 1: like your basic girlfriend, I need just to do five 647 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: hundred an hour for a basic girlfriend, because like I 648 00:25:54,281 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: love your working, your blue collars, like your trade's, your 649 00:25:56,761 --> 00:26:00,281 Speaker 1: truck drivers. They're a great clientele, they're great regulars. They 650 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: really appreciate what you do. But you know, it's a 651 00:26:02,921 --> 00:26:03,921 Speaker 1: bigger demographic. 652 00:26:04,321 --> 00:26:04,521 Speaker 3: You know. 653 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: Plus once if I'm having an off day and I'm like, 654 00:26:07,041 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm only charging big money, and then they're not happy 655 00:26:09,441 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: with what they've gotten. You know, I thought, I think, 656 00:26:11,241 --> 00:26:15,521 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had anyone disappointed once once. 657 00:26:15,281 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: That was really awkward, but that was on him, not me. 658 00:26:19,241 --> 00:26:20,081 Speaker 1: I do have reviews. 659 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard a punter's Planet. 660 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,161 Speaker 1: So it's like a forum where guy's gone review it's 661 00:26:25,201 --> 00:26:27,721 Speaker 1: like literally for brothels and sex workers and workers. 662 00:26:27,761 --> 00:26:29,281 Speaker 3: It's revolting. You got to pay subscription. 663 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, now I've gone reviews, word of mouth, reputation, 664 00:26:32,801 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: and that's why I say, like, in this industry, like 665 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,681 Speaker 1: it's connected to a degree, so you don't burn your bridges. 666 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,841 Speaker 3: Look at your reputation. What do you want to get 667 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: out of it? It's how you look at it, you know. 668 00:26:43,201 --> 00:26:44,081 Speaker 3: But yeah, I went back in. 669 00:26:44,001 --> 00:26:46,041 Speaker 1: Because I want to pay for this birthday party. I 670 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: want to hear it. I have a great time with 671 00:26:47,241 --> 00:26:49,281 Speaker 1: all her friends. And there was all that COVID stuff 672 00:26:49,321 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: going on. This this is one messages me and he goes, 673 00:26:52,041 --> 00:26:53,801 Speaker 1: there's a bit of a BDSM thing. 674 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,241 Speaker 3: So we met up in the city. 675 00:26:55,441 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: And essentially it was like a spanking thing. Like I 676 00:26:57,961 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: was over his knees and like the more I could handle, 677 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: the more I get paid. Essentially, and we got to 678 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,521 Speaker 1: a point where I have a pretty good pain for 679 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,561 Speaker 1: a shoulder, and when money is involved, or like even 680 00:27:09,561 --> 00:27:11,081 Speaker 1: if I was started, I'll do like how much more can. 681 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: I get out of this? 682 00:27:12,041 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: You know that's my mentality. But it was really interesting 683 00:27:14,521 --> 00:27:16,161 Speaker 1: because the book ended up taking a bit of a 684 00:27:16,201 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: turn because then in the end he wanted me to 685 00:27:18,961 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: do a bit of like, you know, your cock and 686 00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:23,801 Speaker 1: ball torture. So it was like what cock and ball torture? 687 00:27:23,921 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: Sort of like you seebt stuff so like and up 688 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: with my hair tie around his balls and. 689 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 3: Like hitting that and hitting it with what my hand? 690 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,921 Speaker 4: What is with these people? 691 00:27:34,441 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: Like I have so many working girls on here and 692 00:27:36,721 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 2: they say the clientele want to be fucking I won't 693 00:27:39,761 --> 00:27:42,921 Speaker 2: say that she hit them with Stilatto's in the balls, 694 00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: Like what's with these guys wanted? 695 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: The thing is I always warned them when they go, 696 00:27:46,521 --> 00:27:48,761 Speaker 1: squeeze as hard as you can. I've got a decent 697 00:27:48,801 --> 00:27:50,761 Speaker 1: hand on me, Like I've got a very big palm. 698 00:27:50,761 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: I've got my dad's hands miniature version, but I've got 699 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,921 Speaker 1: a really good grip. Like not as much these days 700 00:27:55,921 --> 00:27:57,801 Speaker 1: because I've got a permanent damage to my right shoulder 701 00:27:57,801 --> 00:28:00,161 Speaker 1: from the nursing home. But like I've got a really 702 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,841 Speaker 1: tig grip. So when they go squeeze as hard as 703 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,441 Speaker 1: you can, I'm like, squeeze, engaging the reaction because you've 704 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: got to be careful. You don't do permanent damage either. 705 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,721 Speaker 1: You can damage and I remember, just squeeze. It goes 706 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: they keep going. I'm like, well, that's as hard as 707 00:28:10,921 --> 00:28:12,681 Speaker 1: I can squeeze, and I'm holding the pressure. He goes 708 00:28:12,921 --> 00:28:16,321 Speaker 1: right out. Just squeeze and I did. Man, his reaction 709 00:28:16,441 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: was hilarious. I had to hold in my laughter because 710 00:28:19,201 --> 00:28:21,161 Speaker 1: I'm like, I warned you, I have a tight grip 711 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,401 Speaker 1: than it was five hundred bucks paid for the part 712 00:28:23,441 --> 00:28:25,201 Speaker 1: of my daughter had a great time. And then towards 713 00:28:25,241 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: that end of that relationship, I was doing a little 714 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: bit of here and their work just pretty much a 715 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,561 Speaker 1: car blow job here and there. I'm like, that's great, 716 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,161 Speaker 1: you know, make a couple of hundred bucks here and there, 717 00:28:35,241 --> 00:28:37,321 Speaker 1: just do like make the week easier. 718 00:28:38,601 --> 00:28:39,521 Speaker 4: Get over the ship. 719 00:28:41,961 --> 00:28:45,201 Speaker 2: I swear, I'm sorry, but everybody's got these guys. I've 720 00:28:45,241 --> 00:28:48,601 Speaker 2: weird fantasies that these you girls tell me about, Like a. 721 00:28:48,681 --> 00:28:50,761 Speaker 1: Cat that's like a tip of the ice, but blunchos 722 00:28:50,801 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: are so normal, squeeze in the balls. 723 00:28:54,481 --> 00:28:56,561 Speaker 4: What's getting out of that? It's pain. 724 00:28:56,921 --> 00:28:59,521 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fine line between pleasure and pain. People 725 00:28:59,521 --> 00:29:02,361 Speaker 1: who get off on the pain, okayple who get off 726 00:29:02,681 --> 00:29:03,561 Speaker 1: getting spat at. 727 00:29:04,041 --> 00:29:05,361 Speaker 3: I'm a great spit up, always have. 728 00:29:07,201 --> 00:29:08,321 Speaker 4: Some people want you to suspended them. 729 00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:09,521 Speaker 3: You'll get occasionally. 730 00:29:09,761 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: And I was reminded me, why do they weren't like 731 00:29:12,761 --> 00:29:15,481 Speaker 1: spitting on their Dick's normal because like during a blowjob. 732 00:29:15,081 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: But in their mouth. Really yeah, And I always like 733 00:29:21,521 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: warm them mi sou she. 734 00:29:22,201 --> 00:29:23,561 Speaker 1: If I've been doing a bit of a blowjob, I 735 00:29:23,601 --> 00:29:25,721 Speaker 1: came out a lot of sali because I don't want 736 00:29:25,721 --> 00:29:29,121 Speaker 1: work during a blowjob because, as I say, sloppier the better. 737 00:29:32,401 --> 00:29:34,401 Speaker 4: Oh my god, keep going there. 738 00:29:34,921 --> 00:29:37,521 Speaker 1: So like whenever they ask, I'm like, are you sure, 739 00:29:37,601 --> 00:29:39,401 Speaker 1: And they're like, and I got a pretty good spit 740 00:29:39,481 --> 00:29:41,641 Speaker 1: to me. So I always like get the amount they 741 00:29:41,681 --> 00:29:44,321 Speaker 1: have fulllinch or like right in their face. And a 742 00:29:44,401 --> 00:29:45,921 Speaker 1: part of me is like it's gross, but I love 743 00:29:45,921 --> 00:29:47,641 Speaker 1: it because it's a power trip. I'm like, yeah, fuck you, 744 00:29:47,721 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: you swallow that, Like that's my mentality, Like you love that, 745 00:29:51,001 --> 00:29:51,601 Speaker 1: don't you like? 746 00:29:51,641 --> 00:29:52,321 Speaker 3: You take it? 747 00:29:52,521 --> 00:29:55,121 Speaker 1: But yeah, So like because then COVID kind of hit 748 00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:58,921 Speaker 1: pretty hard. I was struggling and I was stuck in 749 00:29:58,921 --> 00:30:00,961 Speaker 1: the COVID nursing home. The corridor we had the COVID 750 00:30:01,001 --> 00:30:02,961 Speaker 1: and it was like twelve hour rate, eight rotating shit. 751 00:30:03,081 --> 00:30:06,721 Speaker 1: So you worked in that corridor only, so seven till seven, 752 00:30:06,761 --> 00:30:08,881 Speaker 1: seven pm till seven am. I was on my fourth guy. 753 00:30:09,201 --> 00:30:11,321 Speaker 1: It was like October. It was a hot fucking night, 754 00:30:11,401 --> 00:30:13,681 Speaker 1: covered in ppe, me and my nurse and mind, I've 755 00:30:13,721 --> 00:30:15,561 Speaker 1: been working with this nurse already at that point for 756 00:30:15,601 --> 00:30:18,361 Speaker 1: like eight nine years, and I'm looking at God, There's 757 00:30:18,401 --> 00:30:20,441 Speaker 1: got to be a fucking better way than this shit. 758 00:30:20,561 --> 00:30:22,681 Speaker 1: I can't keep doing this. I'm literally felt like I 759 00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:25,121 Speaker 1: was dying. And anyone out there who's only either shift 760 00:30:25,201 --> 00:30:27,681 Speaker 1: or or night shift when you're doing twelve hour nights, 761 00:30:27,721 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: I'd get home at seven, get the kids to school, 762 00:30:29,761 --> 00:30:31,601 Speaker 1: sleep a couple of hours during did they pick them up, 763 00:30:32,081 --> 00:30:34,201 Speaker 1: sport shopping, cooking, cleaning, everything. 764 00:30:34,201 --> 00:30:35,681 Speaker 3: I don't sleep again. I'm back at work. 765 00:30:35,881 --> 00:30:38,001 Speaker 1: So you've done four twelve hour nights and you're on like, 766 00:30:38,041 --> 00:30:40,361 Speaker 1: well eight hours of sleeping four days. You literally feel 767 00:30:40,361 --> 00:30:43,321 Speaker 1: like you're dying, Like you feel physically ill and I'm silling, go, 768 00:30:43,441 --> 00:30:44,881 Speaker 1: there's gonna be another way. And that's when I first 769 00:30:45,041 --> 00:30:48,121 Speaker 1: found my first brothel. So I went and did a 770 00:30:48,121 --> 00:30:51,921 Speaker 1: brothel shift and we did a couple of them. But yeah, 771 00:30:51,961 --> 00:30:56,481 Speaker 1: that was that was interesting because people find it interesting 772 00:30:57,001 --> 00:30:59,801 Speaker 1: when you say that you've been hurt or assaulted at 773 00:30:59,881 --> 00:31:01,881 Speaker 1: doing this job, and I'm like, that's what they're paying for. 774 00:31:01,921 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, they're not. 775 00:31:03,801 --> 00:31:06,201 Speaker 1: And that's where the fine line comes in, is they're 776 00:31:06,241 --> 00:31:09,161 Speaker 1: paying for a service you provide. So especially like with 777 00:31:09,281 --> 00:31:11,601 Speaker 1: brothels and when you work privately, I've got my service list. 778 00:31:11,601 --> 00:31:13,441 Speaker 1: It tells you what each service I offer and what's 779 00:31:13,481 --> 00:31:15,561 Speaker 1: in there. If you want something that's not on that list, 780 00:31:15,561 --> 00:31:17,641 Speaker 1: you've got to ask whether a provider or don't it 781 00:31:17,721 --> 00:31:19,721 Speaker 1: might be an extra or whatnot. So you go into 782 00:31:19,721 --> 00:31:22,401 Speaker 1: your brothelor. You do your intros, right, So you walk in, 783 00:31:22,521 --> 00:31:24,841 Speaker 1: you do intros to introduce a Himbecky and as would 784 00:31:24,841 --> 00:31:26,921 Speaker 1: shake hands and ask how they are and they're like, 785 00:31:26,961 --> 00:31:29,041 Speaker 1: you're off your standard, which is generally blowdop sex and 786 00:31:29,081 --> 00:31:31,561 Speaker 1: a massage if they want. And then if they pay extra, 787 00:31:31,601 --> 00:31:33,641 Speaker 1: you know, you offer kissing, mutual or whatever you choose 788 00:31:33,681 --> 00:31:36,321 Speaker 1: to offer. But like if they do something out of 789 00:31:36,441 --> 00:31:38,641 Speaker 1: what your service list is and you tell them to 790 00:31:38,681 --> 00:31:43,761 Speaker 1: stop and know and they don't, that's assault. Like you're 791 00:31:43,801 --> 00:31:46,441 Speaker 1: trying to stop them doing something and they don't, then 792 00:31:46,481 --> 00:31:49,161 Speaker 1: that's like they've crossed a line. I've had a few 793 00:31:49,161 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: incidents privately, but majority of all my assaults where I've 794 00:31:53,321 --> 00:31:55,681 Speaker 1: been hurt, where things have gone wrong, has actually been brothel. 795 00:31:55,681 --> 00:31:57,921 Speaker 1: And you think you're more protected. And that also comes 796 00:31:57,921 --> 00:32:01,001 Speaker 1: down to the brothehere you work out, Like there's some 797 00:32:01,121 --> 00:32:03,681 Speaker 1: out there that are phenomenal. My home base where i'd 798 00:32:03,721 --> 00:32:06,361 Speaker 1: met my best friend that we work together, where we 799 00:32:06,481 --> 00:32:09,081 Speaker 1: met was had its ups and downs. It snap being sold, 800 00:32:09,641 --> 00:32:11,521 Speaker 1: so the old owner's not there anymore. I'm curious to 801 00:32:11,521 --> 00:32:13,601 Speaker 1: go do a shift there just to see how it's changed, 802 00:32:13,681 --> 00:32:14,361 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 803 00:32:14,961 --> 00:32:16,121 Speaker 3: But yeah, look, I. 804 00:32:16,041 --> 00:32:18,401 Speaker 1: Had some great times at the brothel, don't get me wrong, 805 00:32:18,841 --> 00:32:20,761 Speaker 1: But it's the pay car, it's the pay rate. 806 00:32:21,121 --> 00:32:24,001 Speaker 2: Security to like to come to the door and like 807 00:32:24,041 --> 00:32:25,121 Speaker 2: that efat you need to help. 808 00:32:25,241 --> 00:32:28,161 Speaker 4: No, No, just a receptionist, that's it. 809 00:32:28,321 --> 00:32:31,361 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the bossy feels there like the rooms have 810 00:32:31,441 --> 00:32:34,401 Speaker 1: emergency buzzers, but they're under the fucking bed at this 811 00:32:34,481 --> 00:32:35,881 Speaker 1: place was under the better one side. 812 00:32:35,921 --> 00:32:37,081 Speaker 3: So if I'm on that side of the room, what 813 00:32:37,081 --> 00:32:38,641 Speaker 3: the fuck is this buzzer under the bed? Like do 814 00:32:38,641 --> 00:32:40,401 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You scream or. 815 00:32:40,401 --> 00:32:42,281 Speaker 1: You walk out like those of you go toos. But 816 00:32:42,441 --> 00:32:45,361 Speaker 1: it's not always realistic, and like even though I'm a 817 00:32:45,441 --> 00:32:46,841 Speaker 1: very strong person, everyone's like, oh, but. 818 00:32:46,841 --> 00:32:47,761 Speaker 3: How did that happen to you? 819 00:32:47,761 --> 00:32:50,521 Speaker 1: You come across a certain way, it's like it's that 820 00:32:50,681 --> 00:32:53,081 Speaker 1: far or flight response. Sometimes you just freeze, like what 821 00:32:53,121 --> 00:32:55,881 Speaker 1: the fox just happened? It depends on the person and 822 00:32:55,921 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: the situation as well. So like my worst incident, like 823 00:33:01,241 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: when I look at when I see in figures, like 824 00:33:03,001 --> 00:33:05,801 Speaker 1: what was my worst booking happened at my home base 825 00:33:05,841 --> 00:33:10,241 Speaker 1: at May? That broth feels so like I seem to attract. 826 00:33:11,121 --> 00:33:13,881 Speaker 1: I'm nonjudgmental. I guess I'm very easy going. I'm very 827 00:33:13,961 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: like blase about it. Internally, I might not be able 828 00:33:16,721 --> 00:33:17,841 Speaker 1: to be like what the fuck's wrong? We can get 829 00:33:17,881 --> 00:33:21,721 Speaker 1: motherfucking free, but the outside, no judgment right, no judgment 830 00:33:21,761 --> 00:33:24,601 Speaker 1: from me whatsoever. I will make everyone feel as comfortable 831 00:33:24,641 --> 00:33:26,521 Speaker 1: as they can. And that's a big thing, is making 832 00:33:26,521 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: people feel comfortable, relaxed and having a great time, and 833 00:33:29,561 --> 00:33:32,641 Speaker 1: no matter what they ask, I've never made them feel 834 00:33:33,521 --> 00:33:36,001 Speaker 1: it's weird or fucked up or unusual. 835 00:33:36,121 --> 00:33:37,521 Speaker 3: I've made it feel normal for them. 836 00:33:37,841 --> 00:33:39,721 Speaker 1: And that's I think a big part of being good 837 00:33:39,721 --> 00:33:42,881 Speaker 1: at your job too. But yeah, I've had some interesting 838 00:33:43,641 --> 00:33:46,121 Speaker 1: interesting I don't even know which one to start with, 839 00:33:46,201 --> 00:33:47,801 Speaker 1: like I or don't even know where to start on 840 00:33:47,841 --> 00:33:48,401 Speaker 1: which story. 841 00:33:48,441 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: I've got so many, But one that's the one that 842 00:33:51,241 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: most stands out with bad. 843 00:33:53,241 --> 00:33:56,881 Speaker 1: Good or fun bad would have been this guy. He'd 844 00:33:56,881 --> 00:34:00,961 Speaker 1: booked me once before and likely had very small dick. 845 00:34:01,641 --> 00:34:03,081 Speaker 3: It makes a difference to this story. 846 00:34:03,121 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: But the first time he'd come in and to me 847 00:34:05,681 --> 00:34:10,001 Speaker 1: and he asked about a which I don't do, not 848 00:34:10,041 --> 00:34:12,281 Speaker 1: my thing. Tried it a few times, I'm not made 849 00:34:12,281 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: for it. Everyone's like, oh, but you can literally, ah, 850 00:34:14,001 --> 00:34:15,081 Speaker 1: I'm not interested, not. 851 00:34:15,081 --> 00:34:16,721 Speaker 3: My thing, don't enjoy it. Not my thing. 852 00:34:17,001 --> 00:34:18,881 Speaker 1: That's another norm amount of money, Like you gotta literally 853 00:34:18,881 --> 00:34:20,961 Speaker 1: pay me ten grand to get anywhere close to my 854 00:34:21,041 --> 00:34:23,681 Speaker 1: bart with your dick. And he pushed the subject a 855 00:34:23,681 --> 00:34:25,561 Speaker 1: few times and I kept saying no, And mind you, 856 00:34:25,641 --> 00:34:27,921 Speaker 1: this one only books twenty minutes, which you only get 857 00:34:27,961 --> 00:34:30,121 Speaker 1: sixty five bucks out of brothel at the brothel for 858 00:34:30,161 --> 00:34:34,641 Speaker 1: the twenty minutes, and we're in doggies right and out 859 00:34:34,681 --> 00:34:37,361 Speaker 1: of nowhere, He's just shopped it straight up my ass, 860 00:34:37,481 --> 00:34:42,761 Speaker 1: like straight in there. It was fucking excruciating. Everyone's like, well, 861 00:34:42,761 --> 00:34:44,601 Speaker 1: why don't you just shove him off you. I'm like, 862 00:34:44,961 --> 00:34:46,841 Speaker 1: I don't know about your but like when it comes 863 00:34:46,881 --> 00:34:49,081 Speaker 1: also that sort of stuff. It literally knocked the air 864 00:34:49,161 --> 00:34:51,561 Speaker 1: out of me, like it knocked the air out of me, 865 00:34:51,601 --> 00:34:53,921 Speaker 1: and I was in absolutely shock. I was like instid 866 00:34:53,961 --> 00:34:56,281 Speaker 1: like and he kinned me down to a point where 867 00:34:56,321 --> 00:34:58,401 Speaker 1: it was a struggle to move. And once I sort 868 00:34:58,401 --> 00:35:01,161 Speaker 1: of caught my breath back and stapped back to reality 869 00:35:01,161 --> 00:35:03,041 Speaker 1: from the shock, I tried to get him off me 870 00:35:03,041 --> 00:35:05,881 Speaker 1: and he was pretty much done. Yeah right, and like 871 00:35:06,601 --> 00:35:09,961 Speaker 1: it was horrible. It was so painful. He got shower, dressed, 872 00:35:10,081 --> 00:35:12,641 Speaker 1: out of this so quick and out the door. Even 873 00:35:12,681 --> 00:35:13,841 Speaker 1: Joe's like come and not goes. 874 00:35:14,001 --> 00:35:14,681 Speaker 3: He did a run. 875 00:35:14,721 --> 00:35:16,841 Speaker 1: And when I told him what he had done, He's like, 876 00:35:16,881 --> 00:35:18,921 Speaker 1: are you okay. I'm like no, it goes to me 877 00:35:18,921 --> 00:35:21,161 Speaker 1: send one of the girls, and I'm like yeah. So 878 00:35:21,281 --> 00:35:24,681 Speaker 1: I was very swollen. I tore, I was bleeding fun live. 879 00:35:24,681 --> 00:35:26,841 Speaker 1: I actually didn't go home, And this is a tricky 880 00:35:26,841 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: one to understand when you're endure night on a bad 881 00:35:30,041 --> 00:35:30,841 Speaker 1: book and you kind. 882 00:35:30,761 --> 00:35:31,921 Speaker 3: Of take that home with you. 883 00:35:32,521 --> 00:35:34,481 Speaker 1: So I stayed on shift to try and end my 884 00:35:34,561 --> 00:35:36,321 Speaker 1: night with a good book, and one of my really 885 00:35:36,401 --> 00:35:39,761 Speaker 1: beautiful regulars came in and he's just such a sweetheart, 886 00:35:39,801 --> 00:35:42,921 Speaker 1: so which help. But I just remember like sitting out back, 887 00:35:42,921 --> 00:35:44,521 Speaker 1: and I did cry a little bit because it was 888 00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:49,081 Speaker 1: so painful and it's just such a horrible feeling, and like, 889 00:35:50,361 --> 00:35:52,761 Speaker 1: I don't throw the word rape around a lot, but 890 00:35:52,801 --> 00:35:54,081 Speaker 1: that's essentially what it is. 891 00:35:54,241 --> 00:35:54,881 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 892 00:35:54,921 --> 00:35:56,641 Speaker 1: But it's hard to say because you're in that setting. 893 00:35:56,721 --> 00:35:57,881 Speaker 1: So I was like, well, had you get raped if 894 00:35:57,921 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: you work out a brothel or your sex work. I'm like, wow, 895 00:36:00,481 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: I never consented to him shoving his stick up my ass? 896 00:36:02,521 --> 00:36:03,041 Speaker 3: Now, did I? 897 00:36:03,481 --> 00:36:03,561 Speaker 2: So? 898 00:36:04,081 --> 00:36:06,081 Speaker 1: And he pinned me down and held me so like 899 00:36:07,161 --> 00:36:10,241 Speaker 1: that for me was one of the worst. There's plenty more, 900 00:36:10,241 --> 00:36:12,601 Speaker 1: but that would have been definitely the worst, because like 901 00:36:13,801 --> 00:36:17,321 Speaker 1: you just feel so I'm like shit, But it's like 902 00:36:18,041 --> 00:36:20,081 Speaker 1: it's just hard to explain unless it's sort of been 903 00:36:20,201 --> 00:36:22,601 Speaker 1: it's happened to you. It's like and just the pain 904 00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:25,161 Speaker 1: from it was horrendous, especially if for someone who doesn't 905 00:36:25,201 --> 00:36:28,121 Speaker 1: do that. So it's not like you and you tense up. 906 00:36:28,281 --> 00:36:30,201 Speaker 1: You know, that muscle is different to you from your vagina. 907 00:36:30,241 --> 00:36:32,761 Speaker 1: They make differently. It's a designed to relax and expand, 908 00:36:32,961 --> 00:36:35,081 Speaker 1: Like do you know what I mean? So yeah, Like 909 00:36:35,481 --> 00:36:37,641 Speaker 1: best friend was working that night too, which was great. 910 00:36:37,681 --> 00:36:39,681 Speaker 1: She came in and helped me in the shower how 911 00:36:39,681 --> 00:36:41,201 Speaker 1: to look for me and she's like, yeah, that thought 912 00:36:41,241 --> 00:36:43,721 Speaker 1: not looked good. And then the other downside to that 913 00:36:43,841 --> 00:36:45,281 Speaker 1: is I had to take a week off work. 914 00:36:45,321 --> 00:36:46,401 Speaker 3: So I have lots of income. 915 00:36:46,761 --> 00:36:49,081 Speaker 1: So when you have injuries at work, you do you 916 00:36:49,161 --> 00:36:51,241 Speaker 1: lose the income. You have to take the time off 917 00:36:51,241 --> 00:36:54,561 Speaker 1: to heal and recover. So they would have definitely been 918 00:36:54,601 --> 00:36:57,121 Speaker 1: probably my worst. I say very blase in a way 919 00:36:57,161 --> 00:36:59,521 Speaker 1: because like, you know, accept that what happened, You process, 920 00:36:59,561 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: you move on. So whatever I ask, do you dan, 921 00:37:01,521 --> 00:37:04,921 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm very blomba, but no, no. 922 00:37:04,281 --> 00:37:06,201 Speaker 4: No, what's so much the bedest thing you've been asked 923 00:37:06,241 --> 00:37:06,721 Speaker 4: for to do? 924 00:37:06,841 --> 00:37:10,281 Speaker 1: Weirdest? There's probably two that sit at my top. First 925 00:37:10,321 --> 00:37:12,881 Speaker 1: time would have been I'm generally pretty good at reading 926 00:37:12,921 --> 00:37:13,921 Speaker 1: people do the intro. 927 00:37:14,001 --> 00:37:15,321 Speaker 3: But he's not quite right. 928 00:37:15,401 --> 00:37:17,921 Speaker 1: He's a little bit odd, but he wasn't red flag 929 00:37:18,161 --> 00:37:20,921 Speaker 1: enough to refuse because it wasn't aggressive, he wasn't doing 930 00:37:20,921 --> 00:37:22,801 Speaker 1: anything anyway. 931 00:37:22,881 --> 00:37:24,041 Speaker 3: He wanted to book me, and I'm like, no, I'm 932 00:37:24,081 --> 00:37:24,561 Speaker 3: not interested. 933 00:37:24,601 --> 00:37:26,361 Speaker 1: So I went to book by the younger girls and 934 00:37:26,401 --> 00:37:28,001 Speaker 1: she goes, oh, I don't really think so, but I 935 00:37:28,041 --> 00:37:28,561 Speaker 1: need the money. 936 00:37:28,601 --> 00:37:29,801 Speaker 3: And she goes, oh, I don't know. I don't know. 937 00:37:30,201 --> 00:37:32,241 Speaker 1: And a big thing is like, you can refuse bookings, 938 00:37:32,281 --> 00:37:34,681 Speaker 1: but young girls or when you're new to the industry, 939 00:37:34,721 --> 00:37:36,401 Speaker 1: you feel like they feel like they have to say yes, 940 00:37:36,441 --> 00:37:38,161 Speaker 1: some of them. And I'm like, so I turned in 941 00:37:38,201 --> 00:37:39,841 Speaker 1: the end it said it's fine, I'll take it. It's 942 00:37:39,841 --> 00:37:41,921 Speaker 1: all good. She goes, oh, thank god. I'm like, I'll 943 00:37:41,961 --> 00:37:43,761 Speaker 1: just take the booking right because we had no reason 944 00:37:43,801 --> 00:37:46,201 Speaker 1: to say no to him. Get in the room. He's 945 00:37:46,241 --> 00:37:48,681 Speaker 1: had his shower whatnot. And I would get there and 946 00:37:48,681 --> 00:37:51,721 Speaker 1: I get naked. He goes lie on the bed. I'm like, cool, 947 00:37:51,881 --> 00:37:54,721 Speaker 1: just line in your back. It goes to me. Next thing. 948 00:37:54,841 --> 00:37:57,281 Speaker 1: He then gets my legs and straight and them so 949 00:37:57,441 --> 00:38:00,041 Speaker 1: like my legs are like together, like my feet like straight. 950 00:37:59,881 --> 00:38:01,721 Speaker 3: Out next to each other. Mind you. 951 00:38:01,881 --> 00:38:04,161 Speaker 1: I work in age care and we've dealt with a 952 00:38:04,161 --> 00:38:06,201 Speaker 1: lot of dead have anyway, because you know, you get 953 00:38:06,241 --> 00:38:07,841 Speaker 1: them ready and they die and your shift. 954 00:38:08,281 --> 00:38:10,401 Speaker 3: Next thing, I'm sitting there and I'm like I'm lying there. 955 00:38:10,441 --> 00:38:12,521 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm lying there, and next thing it goes 956 00:38:12,681 --> 00:38:14,681 Speaker 1: just I'll move you, and I'm like, okay. 957 00:38:15,041 --> 00:38:16,561 Speaker 3: He gets my arms and does this. 958 00:38:17,561 --> 00:38:19,281 Speaker 1: He just places my arms on my chest like this, 959 00:38:19,321 --> 00:38:25,081 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, instantaneously because I've just gone give 960 00:38:25,241 --> 00:38:25,361 Speaker 1: to me. 961 00:38:25,521 --> 00:38:27,561 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, buddy, this is. 962 00:38:27,521 --> 00:38:29,641 Speaker 1: This is decophilia. This is degophilia. Oh my god, fuck 963 00:38:29,681 --> 00:38:32,201 Speaker 1: big fuck fuck fuck, this is all internal. It goes 964 00:38:32,601 --> 00:38:36,241 Speaker 1: close your eyes. I'm like, cool, I'm go to die. 965 00:38:36,281 --> 00:38:36,761 Speaker 1: I'm gonna die. 966 00:38:36,761 --> 00:38:37,241 Speaker 3: I'm good to die. 967 00:38:37,241 --> 00:38:40,241 Speaker 1: I'm going to die. And like you know, I have 968 00:38:40,321 --> 00:38:42,121 Speaker 1: my eyes closed. And when he spoke to me, it 969 00:38:42,161 --> 00:38:44,801 Speaker 1: was all in whispers and he was just rubbing all 970 00:38:44,841 --> 00:38:46,721 Speaker 1: over my body and then he would pause and jerously 971 00:38:47,401 --> 00:38:48,041 Speaker 1: jerk off like it. 972 00:38:48,041 --> 00:38:50,561 Speaker 3: Was a bat'll rip off his dick literally, and. 973 00:38:50,481 --> 00:38:52,721 Speaker 1: I'm just freaking out and he's like rubbing really hard 974 00:38:52,761 --> 00:38:53,121 Speaker 1: on my hip. 975 00:38:53,161 --> 00:38:54,321 Speaker 3: So when I'm on my back, my hip. 976 00:38:54,241 --> 00:38:56,441 Speaker 1: Bones stick out, and he's just rubbing really hard to 977 00:38:56,481 --> 00:38:58,081 Speaker 1: the point I actually stopped and grabbed this and and 978 00:38:58,081 --> 00:39:01,081 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're hurting me, and he goes in a 979 00:39:01,161 --> 00:39:04,521 Speaker 1: really creepy whispeak, goes, but that's my favorite. And I'm like, 980 00:39:04,761 --> 00:39:09,721 Speaker 1: what it's your favorite? Your bones, your bones, your bones, 981 00:39:09,761 --> 00:39:13,561 Speaker 1: and I'm just there going, oh my god, oh my god. 982 00:39:13,561 --> 00:39:15,841 Speaker 3: I'm like, do I call this? Do I this? What 983 00:39:15,881 --> 00:39:16,321 Speaker 3: do I do? 984 00:39:16,601 --> 00:39:19,361 Speaker 1: Then he pauses to vigorously jerk off, and then he 985 00:39:19,361 --> 00:39:22,841 Speaker 1: would like move me and caress me and just whisper, 986 00:39:22,961 --> 00:39:24,601 Speaker 1: and then finally the buzzer went off and I'm like 987 00:39:24,641 --> 00:39:27,561 Speaker 1: that felt too suit I don't care. And as I 988 00:39:27,681 --> 00:39:30,321 Speaker 1: jump off the bed, I didn't even like shout. I 989 00:39:30,361 --> 00:39:32,721 Speaker 1: just got dressed because I wanted him to leave. And 990 00:39:32,761 --> 00:39:35,881 Speaker 1: he's standing there just like nothing. It was all vacant, 991 00:39:35,881 --> 00:39:38,441 Speaker 1: and he's whispering to himself and I'm like, are you okay? 992 00:39:38,721 --> 00:39:41,641 Speaker 1: And again nothing. He's like looking at me, but he's 993 00:39:41,681 --> 00:39:43,881 Speaker 1: just not registering I'm there. So in the end, I 994 00:39:43,881 --> 00:39:45,761 Speaker 1: did it, Like I grabbed his arm like really hot 995 00:39:45,801 --> 00:39:48,041 Speaker 1: and I rubbed down to just snap him out of it, 996 00:39:48,081 --> 00:39:49,681 Speaker 1: and I'm like dead in the face. 997 00:39:49,721 --> 00:39:50,761 Speaker 3: I go, are you okay? 998 00:39:51,241 --> 00:39:53,121 Speaker 1: And then it's like he came to and he realizes 999 00:39:53,161 --> 00:39:54,841 Speaker 1: where he is and he looks at me as normal 1000 00:39:54,881 --> 00:39:57,921 Speaker 1: as he goes Yeah, I'm good. Thanks, Like as normal 1001 00:39:57,961 --> 00:40:01,921 Speaker 1: as anything, as normal as anything. This dude was like 1002 00:40:02,001 --> 00:40:05,641 Speaker 1: in a whole other universe. Right, keep your eyes turned 1003 00:40:05,641 --> 00:40:09,801 Speaker 1: off the music. Breathe as slowly and shallow, shallow as 1004 00:40:09,841 --> 00:40:12,161 Speaker 1: I could. I didn't move unless he moved me. Kept 1005 00:40:12,241 --> 00:40:15,401 Speaker 1: rubbing out my bones. That I'm just like, I hope 1006 00:40:15,401 --> 00:40:18,441 Speaker 1: he never comes back. It was really funny when I 1007 00:40:18,441 --> 00:40:19,961 Speaker 1: told my sister would do a second. I told her 1008 00:40:19,961 --> 00:40:23,121 Speaker 1: how we positioned. She she's like, nextually she lost her ship. 1009 00:40:23,241 --> 00:40:23,881 Speaker 3: Was really funny. 1010 00:40:24,161 --> 00:40:25,201 Speaker 4: So what's your speciality? 1011 00:40:25,521 --> 00:40:26,201 Speaker 3: My blow child? 1012 00:40:27,961 --> 00:40:33,641 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and what that's it? That's it, it's blow job. 1013 00:40:33,681 --> 00:40:36,561 Speaker 1: I don't have an easy gag reflex is one which helps. 1014 00:40:36,681 --> 00:40:40,161 Speaker 1: I can deep throat quite well. That's what your faith 1015 00:40:40,401 --> 00:40:42,361 Speaker 1: right now, a. 1016 00:40:42,401 --> 00:40:42,961 Speaker 3: Lot of spirit. 1017 00:40:45,921 --> 00:40:47,761 Speaker 1: The most live the better, because the thing is, it's 1018 00:40:47,841 --> 00:40:51,081 Speaker 1: like when you're having said, if it's dry, it's rubbing, 1019 00:40:51,081 --> 00:40:51,721 Speaker 1: it's not pleasure. 1020 00:40:51,801 --> 00:40:53,841 Speaker 3: So it's the same thing. It slide sounds so much 1021 00:40:53,961 --> 00:40:56,001 Speaker 3: easier the more saliva there is. 1022 00:40:56,281 --> 00:41:00,521 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's it. Okay, But wait, there is more. 1023 00:41:00,721 --> 00:41:04,041 Speaker 3: Okay, there is so like that in a sense, and 1024 00:41:04,121 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: my tongue. 1025 00:41:04,561 --> 00:41:06,681 Speaker 1: It's the way move your tongue also, and it's the 1026 00:41:06,761 --> 00:41:09,041 Speaker 1: fact that I've got a very strong tongue. So it's 1027 00:41:09,121 --> 00:41:12,921 Speaker 1: like anyone that can deep the guys like, so when 1028 00:41:13,601 --> 00:41:15,761 Speaker 1: the dick goes past a certain point towards the back 1029 00:41:15,761 --> 00:41:17,841 Speaker 1: of your mouth, it's not touching the tongue anymore, so 1030 00:41:17,881 --> 00:41:20,521 Speaker 1: it's like touching nothing. So essentially that's when I pushed 1031 00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: the back of my tongue under the tip of their dick, 1032 00:41:23,881 --> 00:41:26,321 Speaker 1: I kind of squash it and I move it, and 1033 00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:28,401 Speaker 1: I have a lot of control and strength at the back. 1034 00:41:28,281 --> 00:41:30,921 Speaker 3: Of my tongue. And it's also a combination of hands. 1035 00:41:31,121 --> 00:41:32,881 Speaker 1: It's also when I just swallow their dick coll and 1036 00:41:32,921 --> 00:41:34,601 Speaker 1: I look up at them because I've got big green eyes. 1037 00:41:34,641 --> 00:41:36,601 Speaker 1: It's also the way I look at you is like 1038 00:41:36,641 --> 00:41:38,681 Speaker 1: I'm going to eat you alive. So it's a combination 1039 00:41:38,761 --> 00:41:41,081 Speaker 1: of all of that. But it's essentially just the fact 1040 00:41:41,161 --> 00:41:44,161 Speaker 1: of my tongue. And like i'd have to like if 1041 00:41:44,241 --> 00:41:48,761 Speaker 1: you to understand, I'd have to like I can show 1042 00:41:48,761 --> 00:41:49,561 Speaker 1: you with your finger. 1043 00:41:50,041 --> 00:41:51,281 Speaker 4: No, I'll take your word for it. 1044 00:41:52,521 --> 00:41:53,761 Speaker 3: You put your at the back of my. 1045 00:41:55,601 --> 00:41:55,881 Speaker 1: Finger. 1046 00:41:56,081 --> 00:41:58,881 Speaker 4: I don't take your word for it, squish it. 1047 00:41:59,921 --> 00:42:04,241 Speaker 3: Like my reviews, the reactions I get, I'll use like 1048 00:42:04,361 --> 00:42:05,201 Speaker 3: what the fuck was out? 1049 00:42:05,281 --> 00:42:06,841 Speaker 4: Or what are you doing? How do you do that? 1050 00:42:07,041 --> 00:42:07,881 Speaker 3: What just happened? 1051 00:42:08,321 --> 00:42:11,001 Speaker 1: Like sometimes when I've done some content and I've worn them, 1052 00:42:11,081 --> 00:42:12,361 Speaker 1: like the way I do my blow jobs, and I 1053 00:42:12,361 --> 00:42:15,161 Speaker 1: can also turne the blowjob down so you know it's 1054 00:42:15,201 --> 00:42:17,121 Speaker 1: for the like video side of it, so they can 1055 00:42:17,521 --> 00:42:20,921 Speaker 1: say what side of it when you video contents, but. 1056 00:42:23,681 --> 00:42:25,681 Speaker 3: When they record it and they're like for to. 1057 00:42:25,841 --> 00:42:29,121 Speaker 1: Sell, Okay, yeah, so one guy's doing content with it, 1058 00:42:29,241 --> 00:42:31,881 Speaker 1: I go to him just warning you, like blow jobs 1059 00:42:31,921 --> 00:42:34,081 Speaker 1: are my thing. He blew in under three minutes and 1060 00:42:34,121 --> 00:42:35,521 Speaker 1: then he was paid, like I said, to paste grain 1061 00:42:35,521 --> 00:42:37,521 Speaker 1: in his apartment, gone, what was that? And what just happened? 1062 00:42:37,561 --> 00:42:38,961 Speaker 1: I'm like it was just a blow job, because that 1063 00:42:39,041 --> 00:42:41,441 Speaker 1: was not just a blowjob. So like it's pretty funny. 1064 00:42:41,441 --> 00:42:43,681 Speaker 1: I like the reaction I get from it. I love 1065 00:42:43,721 --> 00:42:46,441 Speaker 1: it when they just for me like that's a turn on, 1066 00:42:46,721 --> 00:42:49,361 Speaker 1: Like it's a bit of a power, Like the way 1067 00:42:49,441 --> 00:42:50,921 Speaker 1: they get so turned on by it. 1068 00:42:51,121 --> 00:42:52,081 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 1069 00:42:52,721 --> 00:42:56,401 Speaker 1: It's nice blowing someone's mind or them having that reaction 1070 00:42:56,761 --> 00:43:00,161 Speaker 1: or a level of ecstasy or like that level of 1071 00:43:00,241 --> 00:43:02,161 Speaker 1: pleasure or when they blow so hard. 1072 00:43:02,521 --> 00:43:05,761 Speaker 4: Okay, does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense, all right, 1073 00:43:06,001 --> 00:43:06,921 Speaker 4: I'll take your word for it. 1074 00:43:09,721 --> 00:43:13,481 Speaker 2: Think about it, though, any regrets like any industry, not 1075 00:43:13,641 --> 00:43:17,361 Speaker 2: not for but any it regrets like he seems that 1076 00:43:17,721 --> 00:43:19,601 Speaker 2: you enjoy what you do, so you know what I mean. 1077 00:43:19,681 --> 00:43:21,601 Speaker 2: So there can't be that much regrets in the industry. 1078 00:43:21,641 --> 00:43:23,961 Speaker 2: But is there regrets that you've had a client don 1079 00:43:24,081 --> 00:43:25,561 Speaker 2: or is there you know you've been with a client 1080 00:43:25,721 --> 00:43:27,801 Speaker 2: or is it regrets in any way? I don't know 1081 00:43:28,121 --> 00:43:28,961 Speaker 2: any regrets in life. 1082 00:43:29,201 --> 00:43:30,281 Speaker 4: I don't know. You tell me. 1083 00:43:32,521 --> 00:43:35,921 Speaker 3: No, no, not to a degress when I think about it? 1084 00:43:36,081 --> 00:43:37,801 Speaker 4: Or is there anything you would changeing about your life? 1085 00:43:38,681 --> 00:43:40,801 Speaker 3: I'd like more money, don't we all? 1086 00:43:40,881 --> 00:43:43,481 Speaker 4: Don't we all charge more for your blowjob? 1087 00:43:44,081 --> 00:43:46,121 Speaker 3: I actually have raised my prices. 1088 00:43:45,961 --> 00:43:48,961 Speaker 1: To so I actually get told like, let's expense a mark. 1089 00:43:49,001 --> 00:43:49,201 Speaker 2: I go. 1090 00:43:49,361 --> 00:43:51,201 Speaker 1: You pay for what you get, you pay for you get. 1091 00:43:51,441 --> 00:43:53,201 Speaker 1: Do you want to get to a point where they 1092 00:43:53,241 --> 00:43:54,761 Speaker 1: do get bar I can charge more. 1093 00:43:54,961 --> 00:43:57,041 Speaker 3: I work pretty hard. I put one hundred and ten percent. 1094 00:43:57,281 --> 00:43:59,841 Speaker 1: I work hard in what I do because the idea 1095 00:43:59,961 --> 00:44:02,081 Speaker 1: is when the industry is quite, you rely on your regulars. 1096 00:44:02,201 --> 00:44:03,201 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what I mean? 1097 00:44:05,121 --> 00:44:08,081 Speaker 1: Greats is there's been a few good clients that ended 1098 00:44:08,161 --> 00:44:10,241 Speaker 1: up on a few dates with and then you've ended 1099 00:44:10,321 --> 00:44:12,161 Speaker 1: up going on this isn't great, But then you've lost 1100 00:44:12,201 --> 00:44:16,321 Speaker 1: that regular, you lose cup. That's probably for me. Things 1101 00:44:16,361 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: have gone wrong, You've had shit days, days have been hard. 1102 00:44:19,121 --> 00:44:21,361 Speaker 1: But I don't regret what I do because it supplies 1103 00:44:21,441 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: the life I have, because at the end of the day, 1104 00:44:23,681 --> 00:44:26,161 Speaker 1: it's a job. You provide a service. It's all about 1105 00:44:26,201 --> 00:44:27,521 Speaker 1: how you look at it. Do you know what I mean? 1106 00:44:27,681 --> 00:44:29,801 Speaker 4: Like, I reckon, you can go on doing this one. 1107 00:44:31,761 --> 00:44:33,281 Speaker 3: If I keep making money, I'll keep going. 1108 00:44:33,641 --> 00:44:35,641 Speaker 1: I actually did say I wanted to tap out by forty, 1109 00:44:35,681 --> 00:44:36,721 Speaker 1: but here I am at forty two. 1110 00:44:39,161 --> 00:44:39,641 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1111 00:44:40,561 --> 00:44:43,641 Speaker 3: I don't know. I only bought my house last year, 1112 00:44:44,001 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 3: so probably a bit. 1113 00:44:44,961 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 4: Longer than. 1114 00:44:47,521 --> 00:44:50,801 Speaker 3: They need to get that mortgage down. I don't know. 1115 00:44:51,001 --> 00:44:52,001 Speaker 3: It's an interesting one. 1116 00:44:52,041 --> 00:44:53,921 Speaker 1: I do make the joke if I'm still sucking dick 1117 00:44:54,001 --> 00:44:55,641 Speaker 1: in my fifties, I've gone wrong in life. 1118 00:44:56,601 --> 00:44:59,121 Speaker 3: I feel like it. I don't know. 1119 00:44:59,721 --> 00:45:02,521 Speaker 1: I do sometimes think like I've had breaks here and there, 1120 00:45:02,561 --> 00:45:04,921 Speaker 1: but then I'm always raring to get back into it. 1121 00:45:05,041 --> 00:45:06,761 Speaker 3: But I don't. 1122 00:45:06,881 --> 00:45:08,521 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tricky one for me. I don't know 1123 00:45:08,561 --> 00:45:10,601 Speaker 1: when I'm going to tap out. I think when it 1124 00:45:10,641 --> 00:45:12,161 Speaker 1: comes to the inserto and one thing I always say 1125 00:45:12,161 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: to the girls, never leave for any other reason until 1126 00:45:14,481 --> 00:45:14,921 Speaker 1: you're done. 1127 00:45:15,441 --> 00:45:16,241 Speaker 3: You make the choice. 1128 00:45:16,321 --> 00:45:18,641 Speaker 1: Like any girl that's left for a guy or for 1129 00:45:18,761 --> 00:45:20,921 Speaker 1: any other reasons, they always end up back in the industry. 1130 00:45:21,401 --> 00:45:23,121 Speaker 1: So you always, yeah, you tap out when you're ready. 1131 00:45:23,121 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: I guess when I stop making money, I guess I'll get. 1132 00:45:24,881 --> 00:45:26,841 Speaker 4: To a point where I won't get to describe yourself 1133 00:45:26,881 --> 00:45:31,081 Speaker 4: in one word? Puck Is that the word. 1134 00:45:35,841 --> 00:45:37,601 Speaker 1: Geez? Put me on the spot with that one. How 1135 00:45:37,601 --> 00:45:40,961 Speaker 1: would I describe myself in one word? That's a hard 1136 00:45:41,001 --> 00:45:42,881 Speaker 1: one for you in it it is if I think 1137 00:45:42,961 --> 00:45:44,801 Speaker 1: back to what everyone says to me, I do get 1138 00:45:44,841 --> 00:45:48,641 Speaker 1: sexy a lot, but fun I'm just chill. I'm just chill. 1139 00:45:48,681 --> 00:45:51,041 Speaker 3: I'm easy going and chill, take everything with a grain 1140 00:45:51,081 --> 00:45:51,401 Speaker 3: of salt. 1141 00:45:52,081 --> 00:45:56,561 Speaker 1: You know. It's like when they go to me, but 1142 00:45:56,721 --> 00:45:58,761 Speaker 1: you know, it's when the kids ask me questions like 1143 00:45:58,881 --> 00:46:00,721 Speaker 1: I'm so honest with them and stuff like that, and 1144 00:46:01,161 --> 00:46:03,761 Speaker 1: the stories we get like, I'm so transparent, like when 1145 00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:05,561 Speaker 1: they're like I never get the dame. Something comes up 1146 00:46:05,561 --> 00:46:07,161 Speaker 1: to me and goes, what do you identify it as? 1147 00:46:07,201 --> 00:46:09,241 Speaker 1: I'm like, the fuck are you? Aren't about boy? It 1148 00:46:09,321 --> 00:46:12,161 Speaker 1: goes gay straight by it came out with all these 1149 00:46:12,241 --> 00:46:14,641 Speaker 1: fucking names I'd never heard of, and he goes, so 1150 00:46:14,801 --> 00:46:16,121 Speaker 1: what are you. I'm like, if I like it, I 1151 00:46:16,201 --> 00:46:18,721 Speaker 1: fuck it, and he goes, so if it's a dude 1152 00:46:19,001 --> 00:46:20,561 Speaker 1: but it has a vagina, I'm like, if I like it, 1153 00:46:20,601 --> 00:46:22,801 Speaker 1: I fuck it. It's like plain and simple. So I'm 1154 00:46:22,841 --> 00:46:25,361 Speaker 1: just very like, yeah, like that about everything. So it's 1155 00:46:25,441 --> 00:46:28,601 Speaker 1: very interesting. I don't know, it's funny. I don't know. 1156 00:46:29,201 --> 00:46:30,721 Speaker 4: Well, I want to say thank you for coming on, 1157 00:46:31,241 --> 00:46:31,761 Speaker 4: very welcome. 1158 00:46:32,401 --> 00:46:37,401 Speaker 2: I've enjoyed your experiences and your life and the industry 1159 00:46:37,601 --> 00:46:39,241 Speaker 2: that you've now enlightened me with. 1160 00:46:39,801 --> 00:46:42,321 Speaker 3: Oh there's so much more. It's like, just like the 1161 00:46:42,441 --> 00:46:43,241 Speaker 3: I sing it before. 1162 00:46:43,281 --> 00:46:44,801 Speaker 4: For some reason, I reckon I have to give you. 1163 00:46:46,761 --> 00:46:48,441 Speaker 3: You would want to hear the Cocaine and the blond 1164 00:46:48,521 --> 00:46:49,081 Speaker 3: Dog stories. 1165 00:46:49,881 --> 00:46:51,041 Speaker 4: I think we're gonna have to get you back on 1166 00:46:51,121 --> 00:46:51,641 Speaker 4: for a part two. 1167 00:46:52,881 --> 00:46:56,161 Speaker 1: One Cocaine with Cocaine Oh my god, Yeah, you see movies. 1168 00:46:56,281 --> 00:46:56,761 Speaker 1: We will do that. 1169 00:46:56,881 --> 00:46:59,521 Speaker 4: We will do that. But thank you for coming on back. 1170 00:46:59,361 --> 00:47:00,001 Speaker 1: Here, very welcome. 1171 00:47:00,041 --> 00:47:01,081 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 1172 00:47:01,121 --> 00:47:01,801 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 1173 00:47:01,881 --> 00:47:02,121 Speaker 4: Thank you,