Speaker 1: Apoday Production. Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashy
Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana.
Speaker 2: This podcast is.
Speaker 3: About female empowerment and encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest,
Speaker 3: and most authentic version of yourself.
Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to new level.
Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone
Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about.
Speaker 3: Get ready for your next level of self. Hello everybody,
Speaker 3: and welcome back to another episode She Rises.
Speaker 1: And welcome back to Jana.
Speaker 2: Welcome back Ashy.
Speaker 1: Today's episode is a behind the scenes look into the
Speaker 1: empire that we are building She Rises, because this is
Speaker 1: not just a podcast. There is so much happening behind
Speaker 1: the scenes and so many exciting plans and a lot
Speaker 1: that we have to sacrifice, risk, put time and energy into.
Speaker 1: And we obviously post a lot on social media talking
Speaker 1: about our highlights and show the cool events and our
Speaker 1: funny reels and etc. But we really will take you
Speaker 1: guys behind the scenes because as normal as it seems,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, but it can also be really challenging. I
Speaker 1: think not a lot of people are talking about the sacrifice,
Speaker 1: the time, the energy, the risk that has to go
Speaker 1: into building something like this.
Speaker 3: And we've had many conversations recently around the podcast and
Speaker 3: the direction that we're going to be going in with
Speaker 3: the podcast, and we figured maybe we should bring you
Speaker 3: guys into the hard conversations that we've been having behind bless.
Speaker 1: And how we navigate them, because it's really beautiful and
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of us. Yeah, but before we get
Speaker 1: into that share of the week, it's a Monday, what
Speaker 1: have you got for us?
Speaker 3: The product I want to recommend is like a gut
Speaker 3: lining product, so it's good for leaky gut if you've
Speaker 3: got gut issues, and I've really wanted to go on
Speaker 3: that journey recently. So it's a product called Glutagenics by
Speaker 3: the brand Metagenics, and honestly, it's been really good. I
Speaker 3: have it twice a day and I just I'm excited
Speaker 3: to get on the journey of healing my gut again.
Speaker 2: And it actually tastes really good.
Speaker 1: I was so surprised you gave it to me the
Speaker 1: other night. I don't know why you gave it to me.
Speaker 3: It just could you stayed over and I pulled you out.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. And I take our glutamine, which the
Speaker 1: main ingredient in this is that glue to mine. I
Speaker 1: how to look at the back, but it tastes like
Speaker 1: lemon lime it it's so much better than playing algodon Wise.
Speaker 2: Oh yummy.
Speaker 1: How much was it? Do you remember?
Speaker 3: I don't think it was more than sixty dollars. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: it was around that price.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My recommendation is a sauna. And I know this
Speaker 1: is a luxury to have a sauna at your house.
Speaker 1: When I used to hear people say they have saunas
Speaker 1: at the house, I was like, wow, that is a luxury.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: I know this is not something that everyone can afford. However,
Speaker 1: it is so relaxing. I feel so calm, I feel
Speaker 1: so good and I sleep better. It was been on
Speaker 1: my wish list for so long. I got the brand Nook.
Speaker 1: I didn't know which one to go because there was
Speaker 1: so many saunas out there and so many good reviews,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot that actually made him on the
Speaker 1: gold Coroast different brands, but LEVI did all the research,
Speaker 1: so anything he has or uses, I'm like fully trust.
Speaker 1: So he got Anook one and he had his for
Speaker 1: a couple of months, and I was like, do you
Speaker 1: love it any feedback, should I get one? He was
Speaker 1: like absolutely, it's amazing. So I ended up getting one,
Speaker 1: and I got a three person one. If make had
Speaker 1: one two, Oh, I got the three person one because
Speaker 1: she said the one is quite small and the two
Speaker 1: is more too. The three just gives me lots of space.
Speaker 1: And Steve and I have them together sometimes and I
Speaker 1: love it. And I also ended up collaborating with them,
Speaker 1: which is really cool.
Speaker 2: I work with them.
Speaker 1: So if you guys have been looking at getting one,
Speaker 1: you can use Ashy Bynes as a code and we'll
Speaker 1: get use money off. And it's made here in Crumblin
Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast. They come and deliver it. They
Speaker 1: set it all up. Take the rubbish away service it
Speaker 1: if you need to. And it's infrared, it's got blue tooth.
Speaker 1: It's really comfortable, it looks cute. I love it. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I need I love it. I need to
Speaker 1: get one installed. Yeah, so do our names. The other
Speaker 1: day is if you everyone to use it, just let
Speaker 1: me know and I can turn it on. You can
Speaker 1: just come by the side gate and jump in. Oh
Speaker 1: it's just the best, so good. Yeah, I'm not pushing
Speaker 1: it yet, just because I'm only a couple of months
Speaker 1: post surgery, and I don't want to put my body
Speaker 1: under too much stress while I'm still recovering from that.
Speaker 1: But it just feels so good. I want to be
Speaker 1: going in a minimum three times a week to really
Speaker 1: feel the benefits long term.
Speaker 3: When you said that, what's his name, Andrew Huberman? He says,
Speaker 3: if you go in anywhere between two and four times
Speaker 3: per week, just for thirty minutes at a time, you
Speaker 3: decrease your risk of cardiovascular disease by fifty percents.
Speaker 1: Wild Pole that do Saunas live longer? Oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be us. I love it alrighty. So we've got
Speaker 1: a lot going on we do. If you follow us
Speaker 1: on socials, you would have seen we just had our
Speaker 1: second live event. We've just booked our third one, which
Speaker 1: is coming October seventeenth here in Brisbane at the Powerhouse
Speaker 1: and we're so excited. It's our first live podcast events.
Speaker 1: So if you haven't got tickets, get them. And then
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of other things in the plans
Speaker 1: that individually, separately both of us have wanted to do
Speaker 1: and it just hasn't lined up. Yeah, So when Tiana
Speaker 1: came to me. For example, we want to hold a
Speaker 1: Ballei retreat. I was like, oh my god, I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to run on there, so excited, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to do it with Levi, but he hates Bali, so
Speaker 1: it's just never going to happen. I pushed him and
Speaker 1: I think I probably could have twisted his arm, but
Speaker 1: also don't want to. Yeah, if you don't want to
Speaker 1: do it, you don't love the country and appreciate it
Speaker 1: for what it is and didn't feel right. You know,
Speaker 1: it's me and you, and we've already started planning what
Speaker 1: it would look like. How many days we found a
Speaker 1: villa that we want to get where everyone can stay together.
Speaker 2: Basically, had the itinery already done mutually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got aft out the other day. It just
Speaker 1: is going to be so epic.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I cannot freaking wait. And then we want to do
Speaker 1: a product which we're not going to tell you what
Speaker 1: it is. Yes, but we work in a product that
Speaker 1: will help you deepen your relationships, yes, which is really cool.
Speaker 1: That's the hint and the clue. Yeah, and that's all
Speaker 1: you get. There's a lot that goes into that. There's
Speaker 1: contacting manufacturers, there's getting samples made, there's creating the product,
Speaker 1: getting all designed, getting all made up, back and forth.
Speaker 1: It takes quite a while, but our goal is to
Speaker 1: kind of have that done by October, which is our
Speaker 1: first big event. And we were having a conversation the
Speaker 1: other night just about business and how another business that
Speaker 1: I know sold out for fifty million dollars and if
Speaker 1: you make five million profit, your business can be valued
Speaker 1: at fifty mil. And then Tiana went away that night,
Speaker 1: wrote in her journal, brought it to the gym next
Speaker 1: day and she's like, oh, it was at my house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like okay, let's just have a look at this crunch
Speaker 1: the numbers on different things we want to do. And
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's really cool because there's so
Speaker 1: much that's possible with this empire that we want to build.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was really cool. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I just got like so inspired. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like I was laying in bed late at night
Speaker 3: after we had that conversation and I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: how do we make this work? Like how do we
Speaker 3: make the business comet evaluation at that number? Yeah, And
Speaker 3: just with the different pillars of what we do want
Speaker 3: to do and what feels really aligned. We were like,
Speaker 3: all right, cool, we can make this happen. But it's
Speaker 3: really beautiful though, because everything that we want to do
Speaker 3: feels really.
Speaker 1: Aligned, so aligned, and it's this long term goal. But
Speaker 1: we spoke about it in a previous episode of Enjoying
Speaker 1: the Journey of Creation, and our biggest value is impact,
Speaker 1: impact and connection and everything that we want to do
Speaker 1: there is so much impact, so much connection, and so
Speaker 1: much play and fun.
Speaker 3: And the really beautiful thing as well is that the
Speaker 3: podcast has quite like evolved quite quickly. Right, we were
Speaker 3: talking about this the other day. So we've been doing
Speaker 3: this together for three months now or four months now, yeah,
Speaker 3: and we've uploaded fifty episodes, we've added a fourth episode
Speaker 3: per week, hosted so far, two in person events that
Speaker 3: have sold out within three days. We've got our third
Speaker 3: one on the way, and just everything has happened so quickly,
Speaker 3: but also in stages, so you know, when we were
Speaker 3: focusing just on the podcast, we were like, okay, the
Speaker 3: next evolution for here is intimate events, yes, And then
Speaker 3: once we've done the intimate events, we're like, okay, bigger
Speaker 3: events now, you know, and then beyond that, it's like
Speaker 3: physical products and courses and you know, the next stage
Speaker 3: is the Bali retreat that we really want to do.
Speaker 3: So with all of that and with that growth, we're
Speaker 3: trying to figure out now together how we can make
Speaker 3: that work and intertwine that with our lifestyles now.
Speaker 1: And out other businesses.
Speaker 3: Because as she's got other businesses, she's also a mum
Speaker 3: of two, I've got another business and right now, like
Speaker 3: Sheet Rises is kind of taking over, Like there's a
Speaker 3: lot of work that we're doing behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Also doesn't make a lot of money at the moment. Yes, like, yes,
Speaker 1: we get paid for our podcast now, which is awesome
Speaker 1: now for a long time, but it's not a huge
Speaker 1: amount of money that we could just give up everything
Speaker 1: else we do. Yes, it's a long game, but that's
Speaker 1: where we're like, we don't want it to just be
Speaker 1: the only pillar of income. So how do we do
Speaker 1: other things that can create income that we can hopefully
Speaker 1: one day make this our full time gig that all
Speaker 1: we do is she Rises, that's our end goal. Yes, like, yes,
Speaker 1: you love coaching, I love hideaway. Sure do we see
Speaker 1: ourselves doing both of those forever? No, She Rises is
Speaker 1: definitely where our true passion is and where we can
Speaker 1: make the biggest impact and help more women with so
Speaker 1: many things in their lives. So it's really exciting.
Speaker 3: It is, and it's also comes with its challenges as well,
Speaker 3: like just learning how to navigate the compromise of what
Speaker 3: we've been talking about. Okay, you know right now, it's
Speaker 3: been a bit of a busier season. Yeah, and you've
Speaker 3: really felt it a lot because you're feeling really stretched.
Speaker 3: We've also been going through some seriously like personal things
Speaker 3: and grief amongst all of it. But then we're like, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, even now we've added a second day to
Speaker 3: work on she rises and how she rises meetings, you know,
Speaker 3: and then learning how to compromise for me of like, okay,
Speaker 3: where does that take away from my coaching business? How
Speaker 3: do I make sure that it doesn't impact my current clients?
Speaker 3: But then I'm still showing up in my business but
Speaker 3: then still giving enough to she Rises.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really interesting like dance, it is.
Speaker 1: And we've had some really cool conversations which we wanted
Speaker 1: to share because I wouldn't say they were hard. They
Speaker 1: were just like, let's really talk about this because we
Speaker 1: have to. It's all fun and exciting to get excited
Speaker 1: about the big plans and our goals and everything, but
Speaker 1: let's be realistic and how do we make this work.
Speaker 1: And when the first conversation was around your coaching, you
Speaker 1: wanted to do courses and master classes and maybe a subscription.
Speaker 1: A subscription yes, and we bounced back and forth. I
Speaker 1: remember when you first asked me the gym, would you
Speaker 1: be open to doing subscriptions? And I was like one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And then we haven't had the chance to
Speaker 1: fully sit down and talk about that. It wasn't the goals.
Speaker 1: And then you were like, oh, I might do that
Speaker 1: for my own business and get that up and running.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, cool, in full support of
Speaker 1: you're doing that, and then we'll do hours later like
Speaker 1: I'm in no rush. And then you came back and
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, this is where I'm at. Yes, I
Speaker 1: can do the courses by myself, and I can the subscription.
Speaker 1: But then my heart's over here. I want to do it,
Speaker 1: and she rises, but I need to know if you're
Speaker 1: going to be all in, because if you're not all in,
Speaker 1: then I muzzle do it over here. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: when I was like, I am all in, but I
Speaker 1: think I don't have as much time as what you
Speaker 1: might do. For example, when I go home, my phone's
Speaker 1: in my bedroom and I'm with my children. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go back to doing what I was doing
Speaker 1: baseline that when I get home, I'm half fast parenting
Speaker 1: because I'm on my phone looking at deadline, checking the website,
Speaker 1: checking on staff. Stressed it was NonStop running that business.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to doing that. So
Speaker 1: I just need to figure out a way how to
Speaker 1: fit this all in. You're in your hustle era, and
Speaker 1: I'm ten years older than Tiana as well. We've got
Speaker 1: to remember she's twenty six. I'm thirty six, So I
Speaker 1: know that hungry like that by Yeah, when you've just
Speaker 1: got all the time in the world, you just want
Speaker 1: to go at it. And I still am in that,
Speaker 1: but I'm also going to prioritize my kids, and I'm
Speaker 1: quite heavy and hideaway now. I couldn't step away from
Speaker 1: that just yet. Yeah, So I was like, Okay, how
Speaker 1: do we do this? How do we do this? Dance?
Speaker 1: And there's conversations around finances, like would you be happy
Speaker 1: to take on more of the load with the courses
Speaker 1: and take more of a percentage. She was like hell, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love this, so I'm ready for this. I was like,
Speaker 1: cool that works.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was just really cool conversation to both know exactly
Speaker 1: what we want, which is the same thing, but how
Speaker 1: do we make it work? And then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: well we do one day a week together at the moment. Realistically,
Speaker 1: if we want to do all these big things, that
Speaker 1: is not going to happen to it one day a week.
Speaker 1: We both are going to have to figure out one
Speaker 1: other full day that we can pull all that energy
Speaker 1: into it. And when we get together, we get so
Speaker 1: much die I was super efficient together, very efficient and
Speaker 1: bounce and what she's good at I'm not so good
Speaker 1: at and yus Yeah, really cool. We have different strengths,
Speaker 1: different strengths, so we've added an extra day and to
Speaker 1: be able to make those things in reality, and we're like,
Speaker 1: let's just tackle one thing at a time and once
Speaker 1: we tackle it, we'll move on to the next.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really exciting. But we both had really honest
Speaker 1: conversations with what that looks like for us when our
Speaker 1: boundaries are because I don't want to go home and
Speaker 1: keep working as like cant because.
Speaker 3: I've got my kids there, Whereas like for me, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm happy to do that, like I've already do it
Speaker 3: now in my business. It's just that that time is
Speaker 3: going to my current business. So it's like even if
Speaker 3: we have a she Riser's day, I've got my first
Speaker 3: workday which is with us, and then i go home,
Speaker 3: have a break, eat something, and then I've got another
Speaker 3: three four hours of like my business upman, So it's
Speaker 3: like I'm kind of already doing that anyway. Yes, And
Speaker 3: then when we were having that conversation, I remember you
Speaker 3: saying to me like, I just don't want to run
Speaker 3: a team, like oh yes, that was another thing that came.
Speaker 3: I'm just letting you know right now this is not
Speaker 3: what I want to do. And I'm like, that's so cool, babe.
Speaker 1: I was like laughing, but also like I'm being serious.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, You're like, please don't know.
Speaker 1: Like Steve does such a beautiful job at running the team,
Speaker 1: and I know I could learn to get better at it,
Speaker 1: for sure, but it's not something I want to do.
Speaker 1: And now at thirty six turning thirty seven, I am
Speaker 1: getting older. I want to do the things that really
Speaker 1: light me up. I've worked so hard since I was thirteen.
Speaker 1: I've done the rough times, I've tried lots of different things,
Speaker 1: and now I'm really strong on doing what lights me up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and delegating the rest.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds privileged to be in that position,
Speaker 1: but that's just.
Speaker 2: Where I'm at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to honor that. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to imagine the team. I'm a great
Speaker 1: team player. I'll do it, do whatever you need to do.
Speaker 1: You tell me what to day, I'll do it. You
Speaker 1: can sweet the floor if you like, whatever you need
Speaker 1: me to do. I just don't want to be that
Speaker 1: central team leader that everyone's going to because it's just
Speaker 1: I have so much energy in the day, and I
Speaker 1: found when I had Baseline, it took away from my
Speaker 1: children because I was so pulled and emotionally plugged into
Speaker 1: everyone else. I want to be able to leave work
Speaker 1: and go home be with my kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I've learned that lesson and I don't want to
Speaker 1: go back there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's so fair enough.
Speaker 3: And then as well, in that conversation, I remember saying
Speaker 3: to you, like, this is something I feel like i'd
Speaker 3: be capable of doing, you know, and whilst I still
Speaker 3: learn how to be a better leader, and I'd learned
Speaker 3: that through implementing. It's a position, a position that I
Speaker 3: would also be like all right, like within this business
Speaker 3: and this like enterprise, I'm like balls to the wall,
Speaker 3: like let's fucking go, Like do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I will do I think I said this
Speaker 3: to you, like I will do anything that I have
Speaker 3: to in order to make this work.
Speaker 1: I think you do a beautiful job at it. For
Speaker 1: the most part, I'm two people pleasing. I want to
Speaker 1: be everyone's friends. I want everyone to like me. I
Speaker 1: have no boundaries in a workplace environment. I don't have
Speaker 1: any of that. I'll just put my hand I'p'm really
Speaker 1: bad at it.
Speaker 3: I think that's something that I have to learn as well,
Speaker 3: because I definitely have people pleasing tendencies and it'll just
Speaker 3: be something that have to like overcome.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you would have it in a workspace,
Speaker 1: because I feel like in my personal life I'm pretty
Speaker 1: good at it, but in my work life, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I've definitely had it, so I've had a couple of
Speaker 1: vas in the past in my business. The very first one,
Speaker 1: I just wanted her to be my friend. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was more her friend than I was her boss.
Speaker 2: But she was a really good worker.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I look back in hindsight after having multiple vas
Speaker 3: and I'm like, fuck, she was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and then after that, I think I
Speaker 2: became more of a leader.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We've even had conversations around protecting our friendship within the
Speaker 3: business as well, like that's a huge value of both
Speaker 3: about them. I really really want to make sure that
Speaker 3: our friendship is protected in this. So we've spoken about
Speaker 3: doing up a partnership agreement and making sure that the
Speaker 3: business side of things is business. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Your dad gave us that advice too. He I remember
Speaker 1: you saying from the start that my dad's always just said,
Speaker 1: what do you say exactly.
Speaker 3: Treat every business deal like they're a stranger or something
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was just something that was like, that's so true,
Speaker 1: and in regardless of what happens, then your friendship's protected. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, that's main goal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So yeah, keep business business and then friendship friendship,
Speaker 3: and then that way you always know that you're good
Speaker 3: in every aspect, because then when emotion comes in, you're like, okay,
Speaker 3: like the facts of facts, and we can deal with
Speaker 3: that factually, and then we can come over here and
Speaker 3: we can enter and put the friendship hat on and go, hey,
Speaker 3: let's talk about this.
Speaker 1: And we've made those decisions in an agreement, which we
Speaker 1: haven't done yet. We will do, but we've made those
Speaker 1: decisions an agreement. We were really regulated and not emotional. Yep,
Speaker 1: we're both agreeing on that. So you can't go back
Speaker 1: when your emotion and be like, oh, well, actually I
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, I didn't say that when you do.
Speaker 3: It's just one of those things that we treat business
Speaker 3: like business and then get to protect our friendship.
Speaker 1: And if you've got nothing to hide, there's no big
Speaker 1: deal in doing that. That's right, Like, wol you're not.
Speaker 3: This is what we're talking about with like prenups and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like if you're in it for the right reasons, like
Speaker 3: who gives a.
Speaker 2: Fuck, then there's nobody you're there for.
Speaker 1: Low It shouldn't be uncomfortable, you know.
Speaker 3: And this is the thing that people struggle with is
Speaker 3: like oh but oh my god, you shouldn't treat me
Speaker 3: like that, and not think anything of me like.
Speaker 2: That, you don't trust me, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, no, well make sense that somebody would
Speaker 3: want to protect their net worth and what they've created
Speaker 3: for themselves, because that's what they've created for themselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've looked hard at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the day, our friendship is
Speaker 1: the most important thing. And that's why I went to
Speaker 1: T two talking about all these big goals and everything
Speaker 1: and where I'm at with being a mum and that
Speaker 1: being such a big priority for me too. Is like
Speaker 1: my fear is that you would resent me if you
Speaker 1: were doing more than me. Yeah, and I would never
Speaker 1: ever want that. So that's why I was like, I
Speaker 1: need to talk to her about this so that we
Speaker 1: can make sure that she is getting a higher percentage
Speaker 1: of the earnings or commission or whatever it is based
Speaker 1: on the work that we're Yeah, so that you don't
Speaker 1: ever feel like that. I love growth mums, that it's
Speaker 1: always been instilled in me and being such a driven person.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just going to be us figuring out
Speaker 1: how it looks and then when we can bring our
Speaker 1: first staff member on board to help us and what
Speaker 1: roles you do enjoy what roles. I don't enjoy what
Speaker 1: we can delegate what we can delegate because I want
Speaker 1: you to stay in the things that you love. It's
Speaker 1: like accounting. Both of us are like fuck no, yes,
Speaker 1: so now my mum's doing that for us.
Speaker 2: We just thanks Wendy.
Speaker 1: We just take a photo of our receipts at her
Speaker 1: and she handles the rest. Like, we don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. We want to stay in our creative flow
Speaker 1: and be making impact because no one else can do
Speaker 1: our role. It's like bringing Bethy on to help with
Speaker 1: running the event.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been incredible.
Speaker 1: She was like, you girls need to just turn up
Speaker 1: and be you because we can't do that. Let us
Speaker 1: handle the logistics and all the stress and anything that
Speaker 1: needs last minute running around. And it was so beautiful
Speaker 1: to have that help power in collaboration.
Speaker 3: Hey, oh, if the events have taught me anything is
Speaker 3: that it really does take a village to create something
Speaker 3: big before and also every part helps, Like you know,
Speaker 3: Bethy has a strength in doing what she does. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well as spreadsheets, I'm like holy and she just like
Speaker 3: so took initiative in that role and I was like
Speaker 3: to oh shit, okay, this is what it's about, yeah, like,
Speaker 3: this is what it's going to require of us in
Speaker 3: the retreats and in anything that we do in person events.
Speaker 2: It's going to require that collaboration.
Speaker 1: It does. I love collaboration too, and I think that's
Speaker 1: where we came together as well. Like I've done apps
Speaker 1: and subscriptions before, You've done courses before, but it's like
Speaker 1: it's so much more fun together.
Speaker 2: It really is. And we talk about this often. We're
Speaker 2: both like, when did you content on our own? We're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can do it.
Speaker 3: Then together, they were like we like little kids skimming around.
Speaker 1: I fell in neglect my own TikTok these days because
Speaker 1: I'm just so excited for that she rises.
Speaker 3: And this is the conversation we've often been having. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: eventually I came to Ashley the other day. I was like, eventually,
Speaker 3: like I don't want to be doing anything.
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, And then it was like a oh
Speaker 2: my god, you feel the same.
Speaker 1: There was something else that happened. You were just having
Speaker 1: the internal conversations around your coaching and you're like, I
Speaker 1: never want you to feel any pressure that, like, she
Speaker 1: rises has to be the main thing for us and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't feel pressure. I want that too.
Speaker 1: Oh you do? Oh my god. Yeah, And that sparked
Speaker 1: all these conversations we both want the same thing, because
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 3: Feeling like I really love this and like everything about
Speaker 3: the podcast, everything about what we're doing is just like
Speaker 3: it lights me on fire or lights of fire underneath it.
Speaker 3: I know what you mean, however you want to say it.
Speaker 3: I never felt more aligned in my life. Oh me too.
Speaker 3: And then I was just like, oh my god, am
Speaker 3: I the only one who feels this? No? Not.
Speaker 1: As I started this podcast, I just knew this is
Speaker 1: what I would want to be doing. And then even
Speaker 1: all the stuff happened and the last co host left,
Speaker 1: and I was like, share, don't do this on my own.
Speaker 1: Do I get someone else? And I just remember saying
Speaker 1: to Katie and Jay, balling my eyes to them, just
Speaker 1: being like, this is what I want to do. I
Speaker 1: need to keep doing this, and they were like, you will,
Speaker 1: We'll figure out a way. Don't stress, You've got this.
Speaker 1: But I was just in panic of like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do anything else. Yeah, And even with the
Speaker 1: whole brain surgery thing and closing down baseline, it just
Speaker 1: felt so right because I would have more time for this.
Speaker 1: It lights me up so much, even like you girls
Speaker 1: may not realize that when you send it in a
Speaker 1: DM to say how an episode impacted you, helped you
Speaker 1: made you not feel alone, you learn something like you
Speaker 1: have no idea how much that makes our day. It
Speaker 1: literally makes us so emotional and gets us so excited.
Speaker 3: We like send screenshots to each other and we're like,
Speaker 3: look at me, yes, And then the event is that
Speaker 3: time's tenfold, face to face, being able to hug you,
Speaker 3: connect with you, see you cry, see you open up,
Speaker 3: see your hold hands from another woman. It's just so
Speaker 3: so powerf to bring women together. And that in person
Speaker 3: feeling and how willing everyone was to grow was something
Speaker 3: out of this world.
Speaker 2: It really was.
Speaker 1: I just wish everyone could find a career or a
Speaker 1: job where they feel how we feel, because I haven't
Speaker 1: always felt like this. There's definitely been periods like I
Speaker 1: loved Fitness, and I did love Baseline for a certain
Speaker 1: amount of time, and I love Hideaway, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't set my heart on firelight This does.
Speaker 1: I feel so lit up. I could literally do this
Speaker 1: all day, every day. It's all I think about is
Speaker 1: all I want to work on. I wouldn't even know
Speaker 1: how many hours we do a week on it, oh,
Speaker 1: away from the office, but it doesn't feel like work.
Speaker 1: It feels like a hobby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. Like this, it's so much fun. And yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I love.
Speaker 3: I love hearing as well people from the outside looking in.
Speaker 3: When I get people talk about the podcast to me,
Speaker 3: they're like, you guys just look like you're having so
Speaker 3: much fun. Oh.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are like, yeah, we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just so much fun.
Speaker 3: And that makes it more enjoyable for people to witness us,
Speaker 3: but then also more enjoyable for us because we're like,
Speaker 3: we're genuinely having a good time, because it lights us
Speaker 3: both up. Yes, And I think for really long time,
Speaker 3: I've really tried to make certain ways of doing business
Speaker 3: fit that weren't my style, you know, like putting like
Speaker 3: we've spoken about this in past episodes, how I would
Speaker 3: take on past partners, you know, lens of business of
Speaker 3: how I should do things where deep down I knew
Speaker 3: it wasn't right for me, but I was listening anyway,
Speaker 3: And then I would feel resentful. I would burn out
Speaker 3: every three weeks and I'd be like, why the fuck
Speaker 3: am I even doing this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, but where is this? I'm like that other
Speaker 2: thing I haven't had that.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not at all.
Speaker 2: I don't feel that at all.
Speaker 1: I hope anyone listening, I hope it inspires you. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what age you're at, twenty six, thirty six,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you're at in your life. You
Speaker 1: can always change change your mind trying something new. And
Speaker 1: if you're not feeling lit up, alive, excited for your
Speaker 1: work and for your purpose, yeah it's time to fucking
Speaker 1: look at that change. I'm not saying quit your job
Speaker 1: straight away, but don't settle for the story that I have.
Speaker 1: When I was a little girl, that I was sold
Speaker 1: that you just had to work to live. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just had to work to pay the bills, Get a job,
Speaker 1: be grateful you've got a roof over your Like, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be like that for you. And trust me,
Speaker 1: I came from nothing. You can build a life that
Speaker 1: you're really proud of and that you're really excited for.
Speaker 1: I really hope my kids find something like this, not podcasting,
Speaker 1: whatever they want to do, but where they just feel
Speaker 1: so lit up and excited for it, and if they
Speaker 1: get over it, want to change their mind. Amazing. I
Speaker 1: will encourage and push that too.
Speaker 3: And even the conversation we're having the other day around
Speaker 3: how I felt like I was hiding behind my coach identity. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, We've had this conversation for months now as
Speaker 3: she's been encouraging me to just add variety into my
Speaker 3: content and just based on things that I've told her
Speaker 3: that I've wanted, and I've just held on to it
Speaker 3: so much because it's been such a safety net for me,
Speaker 3: and I've just been like, Okay, I've noticed that I've
Speaker 3: been evolving, but my content hasn't reflected it, and I've
Speaker 3: been terrified of changing that and adjusting that to do
Speaker 3: what I actually want to do because of these fucking
Speaker 3: ideals that have been put on me from what I
Speaker 3: think others want me to do. Yeah, And I just
Speaker 3: have been like this whole last couple of weeks especially,
Speaker 3: has really been about letting go of that and come
Speaker 3: into this like unknown space of discomfort and fear and
Speaker 3: change and gross and it's fucking uncomfortable, really is, and
Speaker 3: it's scary, but it's also like the drive and the
Speaker 3: desire and the pool to go this way so much
Speaker 3: stronger than the fear that's trying to pull me backwards.
Speaker 1: I love that and I could relate because I said,
Speaker 1: when I gave up in the fitness industry and decided
Speaker 1: to move in this direction, that was hard. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: people have always loved me for fitness. I've always posted
Speaker 1: fitness content. Will I still be relevant people? Will they
Speaker 1: still be interested? Would they still want to watch me?
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, if they don't, then they're
Speaker 1: not my people. And I'll attract the right people that
Speaker 1: are on the same journey to me, you know, But
Speaker 1: you forget that your audience also grows with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Even at the event, there were so many women that
Speaker 1: came up for a photo. I've followed you for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Oh that was so cool to hear, so cool to
Speaker 1: see all your evolutions and I just love watching the
Speaker 1: journey of you.
Speaker 3: And I was like, ohmu, you've grown and yeah, it
Speaker 3: was really beautiful, so special, really cool.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're going to be bringing out a course
Speaker 1: which is really cool product hopefully by October and Barley Retreat.
Speaker 1: That's really exciting.
Speaker 2: It's so exciting.
Speaker 1: I know, there's a lot of Barley retreats around, but
Speaker 1: it won't be black House, no bias.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we just wanted to just document
Speaker 3: a little bit of the journey and kind of where
Speaker 3: we're both at and what we're planning and what we
Speaker 3: want and just the reality of it all because you
Speaker 3: see things on the forefront and you might just see
Speaker 3: us posting podcast snippets and also really fun reels that
Speaker 3: you guys get to come along on.
Speaker 1: But it's not just that this more behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: How much more happening and big plans that we've got.
Speaker 1: So I was saying to Tea the other day, this
Speaker 1: time next year, we're going to look back and be like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, we've done a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's crazy what you can do in a short amount
Speaker 1: of time when things feel so aligned, they just flow.
Speaker 1: Even our events, it's like, whoa, how do we just
Speaker 1: say we're going to do this? And now we've got
Speaker 1: all planned and it's done now. And it's interesting too.
Speaker 1: We were driving back from Brisbane Get the Rule behind
Speaker 1: the Scenes today, driving back from Brisbane last month and
Speaker 1: we were trying to book in the powerhouse. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it was getting a bit much for me. It was
Speaker 1: really overwhelming. What they were requiring, what they needed from
Speaker 1: usk questions. I was trying to get a hold of them.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was a nightmare. And I've done
Speaker 1: a lot of events over the years, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is not normal. And I started saying. I was like, look,
Speaker 1: it's just not meant to be. We'll find a new location.
Speaker 1: Let's park this one. I remember this like, look, I
Speaker 1: was driving. I remember this look in her eye that
Speaker 1: was like no. And Tatiana came out, got out her phone,
Speaker 1: called them and in a very polite, respectful, yet stern
Speaker 1: way of just like, we are going to make this happen.
Speaker 1: What do I need to do right now to lock
Speaker 1: this in? Like I'm here. You need and she's like,
Speaker 1: I need the insurance, I need cool done dune dune.
Speaker 1: We pulled over it grilled, got out and meet Patties
Speaker 1: and she's just hustling away. But my fear came up
Speaker 1: and I doubted it. And I was telling Steve Boddy goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you do that when you go overwhelmed. Do you think
Speaker 1: you're not capable? In your old story of I'm too
Speaker 1: dumb pops up and then you park it and you
Speaker 1: just let it go. I was like, yeah, I don't do.
Speaker 2: That, don't. I thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 3: It was such a cool moment though, it was for
Speaker 3: us to have that conversation and just noticing that in
Speaker 3: the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and noticing the energy shift of like, no, I
Speaker 1: fucking got this, Yeah we want this, We're gonna make
Speaker 1: this happen at determination. Yeah, it's like, oh, go got fire.
Speaker 3: I love it, And like not allowing someone saying no
Speaker 3: to yeah, like, oh that's the end of it, because
Speaker 3: they didn't really say no, but they would.
Speaker 1: They were hurtle.
Speaker 3: It was so difficult, it's so neat. I was like,
Speaker 3: don't fuck with me today. All right, has just been
Speaker 3: filming for eight motherfucking hours. All right, we're doing this shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was just we've got the vision for so long.
Speaker 3: We did well, we really wanted that location, and.
Speaker 1: We just on our vision board had exactly what it
Speaker 1: looked like. This venue was in nothing else compared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you guys love this episode and you like more
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of what it takes to run an
Speaker 1: event or yeah, different hard conversations that we have, would
Speaker 1: you like us a share more of that because I
Speaker 1: don't even like saying hard because they're not hard.
Speaker 3: They don't feel hard together, So.
Speaker 1: It's it just conversations that they've got to be had,
Speaker 1: but like uncomfortable conversations. Maybe, yeah, we did have one
Speaker 1: the other day. Actually that was a bit harder on
Speaker 1: the treadmill. That was about about yes. So look, we're
Speaker 1: not in different opinions about this. I'm obviously a little
Speaker 1: bit more sensitive to it. But I didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk about this because I didn't want to draw more
Speaker 1: attention because you can see that they're actively waiting to
Speaker 1: pounds and they're actively trying to bring us down. They're
Speaker 1: actively going to our reviews and leaving shit us fate comment.
Speaker 1: Either they're not listening and they're just writing it to
Speaker 1: bring us down, or they are listening, which if you
Speaker 1: don't like us, motherfucker, you're listening. Anyways, you can see
Speaker 1: that they're trolling. And Tiana's idea was to ask our
Speaker 1: audience to jump on and the ones who are loving
Speaker 1: and you girls that are listening, to go over and
Speaker 1: support us and to leave some positive feedback and reviews
Speaker 1: to try and squash them away. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's just going to make the trolls want to win,
Speaker 1: and they're going to come back tenfold. They're going to
Speaker 1: post it in some gossip forum and then five hundred
Speaker 1: it'll come over and do it.
Speaker 3: And I know this.
Speaker 1: I don't know they'll do it, but I have had
Speaker 1: experience this, I've got evidence. I know how bitious they are.
Speaker 1: They are actively waiting to pound on anything. And we
Speaker 1: were back and forth too, and I was like, look,
Speaker 1: we can try it. I'm just protective of your mental health.
Speaker 1: You're now grieving a friend. I'm still grieving Rambo, and
Speaker 1: We've both got a lot going on right now. Even
Speaker 1: though it doesn't ruin our day, it is still energy.
Speaker 1: When you read something about yourself.
Speaker 2: There's energy out. Yeah it is yea.
Speaker 1: Even if it just like flicks you, it's still a
Speaker 1: little bit. It might not knock you over, but you
Speaker 1: can still feel that little flick and twinge of like,
Speaker 1: oh God, why did they say that? Yeah it's there.
Speaker 1: You know you're human, you can feel it. You're not superpower, superwoman,
Speaker 1: not super human. I'd be lying if I said it
Speaker 1: never affected me. And I think you coming into this,
Speaker 1: I know it's not, but I feel a sense of
Speaker 1: responsibility to protect and shield you from that, and I
Speaker 1: know that I can't, but if there's something that I
Speaker 1: feel will minimize it, yeah, I would do. So the
Speaker 1: thought of encouraging people to go over there, I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I freak out and I want to like, what do
Speaker 1: the reviews do anyway? Like I was saying, I don't
Speaker 1: feel like they're going to help us grow, which you're like,
Speaker 1: I think it will. There's hundreds of thousands of people
Speaker 1: that listen to us. Imagine if they went over and
Speaker 1: they're loving it. We were just having a discussion about it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it felt uncomfortable because.
Speaker 2: We had different opinions almost.
Speaker 1: Like different opinions, and I'm trying to protect you and
Speaker 1: I'm more triggered and sensitive to it because i've experienced it.
Speaker 1: And then you're like, but I'm not going to live
Speaker 1: in fear and I'm not going to let them stop
Speaker 1: me from crying. And this is a part of it.
Speaker 1: The more we grow, the more people are going to
Speaker 1: hate us, Like we've got to get used to this.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you're right, but scared, but yeah, that's
Speaker 3: the right. We had like different context, right, Yeah, you've
Speaker 3: got the context of previous evidence where I haven't had
Speaker 3: to experience that, that initial backlash, and you know, psychologically,
Speaker 3: I haven't had to experience that whereas you have. And
Speaker 3: then I think for me, I'm like thinking bigger picture.
Speaker 2: And the conversation we did have I said to Ashley
Speaker 2: was like, you know, if we are.
Speaker 3: Going to grow as big as we're going to grow,
Speaker 3: those people are going to become so irrelevant that we
Speaker 3: can't even hear them, right. But then it's the process
Speaker 3: of doing that, you know, And it's a choice for
Speaker 3: me to be here and to do this with you.
Speaker 3: And I'm also willing to put myself in the firing lines,
Speaker 3: like I.
Speaker 1: Would be a firing life.
Speaker 3: So like that It's so true though, right anybody who
Speaker 3: puts themselves on social media is risking being criticized. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter who the fuck you are, what avenue you're in,
Speaker 3: It does not matter. You could be selling baby clothes
Speaker 3: and someone will criticize you for that's sake, do you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? So like, it comes with the territory,
Speaker 3: And like I would be ignorant if I thought that
Speaker 3: one hundred percent of people are gonna like me. It's
Speaker 3: just one of those things where I'm like Okay, what
Speaker 3: do we focus on?
Speaker 2: Do we focus on?
Speaker 3: You know, because again, like what you said, there's hundreds
Speaker 3: of thousands of women who were listening into this podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I saw Leila Homosy and Alex Homosy do
Speaker 3: it every single episode.
Speaker 2: They do it.
Speaker 3: They you know, say, you know, guys, like if you
Speaker 3: want to leave a review, it might just help somebody.
Speaker 3: You know, the reviews are whatever, and you say, leave
Speaker 3: a comment.
Speaker 2: Hey, this really was pivotal for me.
Speaker 3: This really gave me a light bulb moment. Maybe the
Speaker 3: next person who reads that will go, shit, I'm going
Speaker 3: to listen to that. So that's what I'm trying to
Speaker 3: focus on. But then also that the fear is so
Speaker 3: valid as well, and you have the context of that fear. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was saying to Tea too, like it's a
Speaker 1: rough stat but I would think because I've been doing
Speaker 1: this for so much longer, and I'm old, and I've
Speaker 1: been online for double the amount of time you have,
Speaker 1: I feel like most of the hate is going to
Speaker 1: be on me, so it's a lot for me to carry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I just feel I think lately holding what I'm
Speaker 1: holding the grief being a good mum showing up and
Speaker 1: doing all the things I've just felt. It's like extra heavy.
Speaker 2: Of course it's extra hard.
Speaker 1: And now you're entering a grieving period which I can't
Speaker 1: say it ends soon because it doesn't still thick in it.
Speaker 1: I didn't want anything extra on top of what you're
Speaker 1: going to be holding now. Yeah, and we both were like,
Speaker 1: I hear you, you hear me. I see your points,
Speaker 1: I see mine. They're both all real, they're all valid. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It wasn't uncomfortable, but it I think just because I
Speaker 1: am protective and I'm scared.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's so many layers to it, with a lot.
Speaker 3: And when you started to say, like the mental health
Speaker 3: side of things, yeah, breathing and how it automatically feels
Speaker 3: so much heavier, I was like, oh, you know what,
Speaker 3: like maybe it's not fucking worth it, Like maybe it's
Speaker 3: not worth it. But then I was also like, I
Speaker 3: just want to make sure that we're you're never making
Speaker 3: a decision out of fear. Yeah, but out of so
Speaker 3: much fear there yeah yeah, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: like out of a place of all I need to
Speaker 3: keep myself small in this box just so that people
Speaker 3: don't pounce because it's like, well, then we're doing a
Speaker 3: disservice for all the people who do listen to this podcast.
Speaker 1: And I'm letting them win. It's not your life. If
Speaker 1: you're always worried about what other people are thinking, they're
Speaker 1: controlling it. And I totally see that. I'm even scared
Speaker 1: talking about this now because I know that it's like
Speaker 1: in the past, every time I've spoken about being depressed
Speaker 1: or being suicidal or being upset, it's like some people
Speaker 1: fucking love a babe. Yeah, They're like, whoa, she's down,
Speaker 1: We're winning. So fuck it's so fuck so Like, I
Speaker 1: don't even like talking about this vulnerable stuff because it's
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I don't think I'll understand why
Speaker 1: people enjoy that. Yeah, I really don't.
Speaker 2: This wasn't in our notes by that.
Speaker 1: No, how you can enjoy one trying to bring down
Speaker 1: another woman, but to enjoy seeing her go down in
Speaker 1: that process. Yeah, you don't think I'll ever understand that.
Speaker 2: No, and you won't because you're not like that.
Speaker 1: I the last thing I'd ever want to do is
Speaker 1: see a women go down, even someone that's hurt me,
Speaker 1: like even a troller. I would never wish bad upon them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even if they said the most disgusting thing about me.
Speaker 1: All I hope is that they heal. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: get to see what's coming up for them and they
Speaker 1: don't do it someone else. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're still figuring. We're still figuring that part out.
Speaker 1: So if you love our episodes, go live a nice review.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please, And you know what's wrong wrong there?
Speaker 1: It'd be more that there's more love than hate. I
Speaker 1: would love to be proven, yes, and.
Speaker 2: That's what I keep trying to say.
Speaker 3: But you know what, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: the people who are in there writing bad reviews are
Speaker 3: also attacking your character. So they're not even talking about
Speaker 3: the podcast. It just shows that they're just trolling and
Speaker 3: they can say all they want, but the numbers don't lie.
Speaker 3: And all of you beautiful humans who are listening and
Speaker 3: who do value the podcast and value you know, what
Speaker 3: we have to say and what we share and that
Speaker 3: impact that it makes on you, Like, that's what it's about.
Speaker 3: And we just do it willing to drown out the
Speaker 3: five percent or the one percent of people who do
Speaker 3: have something to say, because again, we're not going to
Speaker 3: be everyone's cup of tea and we're not here to
Speaker 3: fucking people please, Like at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: That's a commitment ashly I made when we start achieve rises.
Speaker 3: We said we are going to ruffle feathers. We are
Speaker 3: going to talk about things that are going to make
Speaker 3: people uncomfortable. And the fact that we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about things that people shy away from.
Speaker 1: I want to activate point you activate something within you
Speaker 1: that hasn't been activated before. Yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 2: Activate. That's the word word.
Speaker 3: It's the word they've word of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you do love our podcast, it does
Speaker 1: mean a lot to us. It does support us a lot,
Speaker 1: and we love seeing it.
Speaker 3: We really appreciate We do appreciate a lot to us. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you have any feedback or if you do like
Speaker 3: us talking more business behind the scenes, like, let us know,
Speaker 3: because we would really you know, we'd like to share
Speaker 3: more of this and we'd like to document more of
Speaker 3: the journey as well. So if you do like it,
Speaker 3: let us know, send us a DM or jump in form.
Speaker 1: Or wouldn't say we're a business podcast, However, this is
Speaker 1: a business and we were doing it, so we're happy
Speaker 1: to you're long the journey, behind the scenes and all
Speaker 1: the ups and downs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not going to claim they we're professional.
Speaker 1: They're learning as we go.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 2: There's a huge pillar of our lives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so and passion.
Speaker 2: Yeah alright right, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: Bye bye,