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Speaker 1: Oh, it's a terrible story and this man is very,

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Speaker 1: very lucky. A surfer has been bitten twice by a

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Speaker 1: shark at a Southern Kangaroo Island beach and then managed

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Speaker 1: Bitten twice on the leg. The man, believed to be

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Speaker 1: in his fifties, was in the water at Dstre's Bay,

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Speaker 1: a renowned to a surfing spot. It's known as the

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Speaker 1: Sewer I understand because of its what murky waters potentially

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Speaker 1: or choppy waters, not sure, but anyway, he managed to

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Speaker 1: get to the shore and then go to hospital emergency surgery,

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Speaker 1: Police saying his injuries are not life threatening, and witnesses

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Speaker 1: saying likely a large bronze whaler seen chasing a seal

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Speaker 1: through the bay. The seal, according to news reports and

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Speaker 1: I'm reading one now, seemed to have led the shark

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Speaker 1: to the surf before ducking under again. And that's interesting

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Speaker 1: in itself. I mean, that would be self preservation by

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Speaker 1: the seal, but not a beach unknown for its attacks.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was attacked by a great white Twenty nine year

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Speaker 1: old man survived after being bitten on the leg and

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Speaker 1: then paddling to shore and walked to his car as well.

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Speaker 1: He was met by an ambulance on the way though,

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Speaker 1: so a bit of toughness amongst surfers off ki, But

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Speaker 1: how's that seal? Thanks a lot, mate, Sammy the seal

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Speaker 1: come in my way. Aaron Meccado, President and founder of

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Speaker 1: the Australian Marine Wildlife Research and Rescue Organization. Aaron, good

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Speaker 1: evening to you. Thank you for yeah, good, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. How a very interesting behavior by

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Speaker 1: the seal. I suppose self preservation, as I said, it's one.

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Speaker 2: Of I've ever heard of it before. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: out of predator to someone that's not as fortunate with

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Speaker 1: That the steel. So maybe coincidence, Yeah, I suspect.

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Speaker 2: So, because that would be very cheap if that be

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Speaker 2: the case. And look, there are a number of long

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Speaker 2: those first steals, Australian first feels and Australian sea lions

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Speaker 2: that them are regulates across an elementary coast and boat

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Speaker 2: bogs and that kind of islands them moroundering in the

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Speaker 2: one spot for several hours at the time exposing it

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Speaker 2: has been reported to US as a steel that's been

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Speaker 2: entangled in a net you can't go anywhere, or one

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Speaker 2: that's trying to call for help, which quit the figure

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Speaker 2: out out the water. I don't think that be the case.

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Speaker 2: Having said that the shark was chasing it, but if

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Speaker 2: it was doing that until residentally the shark, sorry, and

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Speaker 2: I decided to go to shore somewhere very quickly away

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Speaker 2: from the shark. Wasn't the first had to see there.

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Speaker 2: I suspect that the case is very unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just bad luck in the time of case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cheeky seal the case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose we're so and surface must think this

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Speaker 1: all the time. Yet they still go in the water.

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Speaker 1: The chances of a shark is you know, is real

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Speaker 1: because this is their habitat absolutely and we.

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Speaker 2: Used to the thing that people criticize the shark and

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Speaker 2: then not nonsense of the time that the family associated

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Speaker 1: Aaron, you can I just interrupt you. Sorry, you're very

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Speaker 1: you're very faint and distant to the phone.

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Speaker 2: Heaps better, Okay, sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: For those for those individuals that unfortunately lost their lives

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Speaker 2: to a shark attack, it's the family that quite often

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Speaker 2: say don't go after the because the individual does know

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Speaker 2: that rich entering the water there, the habitat there and

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Speaker 2: have fun that lived there as the shafts, and we

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Speaker 2: say the same thing that people got to Africa. The

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Speaker 2: two guys just don't get out of this car because

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Speaker 2: And then as line comes beneath it, they don't go

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Speaker 2: on hunt the lions. The person is into the habitat.

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Speaker 2: That's unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, I mean we have stopped this is the

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Speaker 1: perennial debate. I suppose in Australia we have stopped going

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Speaker 1: after great white. It's for you, for better or worse.

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Speaker 1: It is their environment after all. But are they in

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Speaker 1: record numbers? Now this might not have been a great

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Speaker 2: That's right. I mean, I know numbers have bounced back

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Speaker 2: not sure if they're at record number. Someone I think

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Speaker 2: condently But Horrisfic got deal because gentleman and the person

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us a bit about your foundation. What do

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Speaker 1: you what do you do the Marine Wildlife Rescue and

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Speaker 1: Research Organization.

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Speaker 2: Well, we used to do a whole We used to

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Speaker 2: do a whole lot. We were the state sponsored regards

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Speaker 2: And that's unfortunate those times. We don't want to get

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Speaker 2: this year, and we wound back a unfortunate circumtent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So then I was going to ask

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Speaker 2: No, No, we haven't been our facilities ultimately unfortunately. Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: that's pretty rific, Storian. We're in the middle of legal

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Speaker 2: proceedings regouts that con't really going to it in great

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, okay, so.

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Speaker 2: We can do it. Advice to people before up and

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Speaker 2: say we've found a turtle or we've found a dealer.

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Speaker 1: With bit yeah facility, right, So okay, back back to

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Speaker 1: this incident, then, what would your advice be to anybody thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm one k I might go surfing in that area.

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Speaker 1: Should they now or should they wait a while, give it,

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Speaker 2: I think. I think it's it's got to a track

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Speaker 2: record disappearing. It's where a nesty does colapidations. We've got

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Speaker 2: a dark marky groundwater which is normally brackish water, a

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Speaker 2: be cautious, I mean I'm away corsious going to go

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Speaker 2: I'm very cautious as going into another habitat that I'm

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Speaker 2: not equipped for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a.

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Speaker 2: Place w I've always entery in the ocean, especially if

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Speaker 2: there is a big bronze hanging around and in between

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Speaker 2: we don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, and and you know it's not their

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Speaker 1: out of a jeep in the middle of the SERENGETI, well,

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Speaker 1: good luck to you. You're you're a full and you

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Speaker 2: That's right. Look sho shouts of kinisting because there's something

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Speaker 2: there that's injured or not tony as fast as they

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Speaker 2: can take that chance and taste therefore, and I said

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Speaker 2: it out and you're lucky if it's on two occasions.

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Speaker 2: But they said it wouldn't have been such a small

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Speaker 2: bike or in net spot. But I'm always watcheous. You

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Speaker 2: are right saying that you're Andrew and they have a

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 2: And if you've got to look at option, that's if

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Speaker 2: you think someone goes out to you in your hundred meters,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure the shark. I don't think I want to know. No,

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Speaker 2: hopefully listen back fast enough so one half doesn't well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely good advice. Aaron, thank you. I'll let your guy cheers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Mercado, president and founder of the Australian Marine Wildlife

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Speaker 1: Research Rescue Organization