WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 25 September

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<v Speaker 1>General, welcome the late base.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to have your company. I'm James Macpherson with Liz

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<v Speaker 2>Storra and Caleb Bond. Coming up a Chinese zoo forced

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<v Speaker 2>to admit that the pandas everybody was paying to see

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<v Speaker 2>were actually dogs painted black and white. Amazing nobody figured

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<v Speaker 2>it out. Will show you that a little later. Plus

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<v Speaker 2>when we look at the papers. International students about to

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<v Speaker 2>storm the tribunal en mass protesting visa cancelations, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Territory government splashing around money in a bid to

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<v Speaker 2>attract new residents. We'll get to that when we look

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<v Speaker 2>at tomorrow's news. But first, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>get too excited about this because it's still early days,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a new trend among local councils that seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be catching on. Councils are increasingly starting to ask

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<v Speaker 2>residents what they want instead of simply imposing woke nonsense

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<v Speaker 2>upon them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It all started on Monday night, when the only council

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<v Speaker 2>in South Australia voted to return Australia Day celebrations to

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<v Speaker 2>January twenty six, after a poll of citizens found sixty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of them had always wanted Australia Day celebrations to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the traditional day. And tonight we can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that Rockingham Council in Western Australia has just voted

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<v Speaker 2>to do the exact same thing. Now Rockingham Council likes

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<v Speaker 2>so many councils around this country moved Australia Day celebrations

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<v Speaker 2>away from January twenty six without ever consulting rate payers.

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<v Speaker 2>But when they randomly surveyed ten thousand households lo and behold,

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<v Speaker 2>they were shocked to discover sixty three percent of people

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<v Speaker 2>had never wanted the date to be moved. And so

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<v Speaker 2>this week, ten out of twelve councilors voted to restore

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<v Speaker 2>ceremonies to the rightful date. So it's a win for

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<v Speaker 2>common sense and it's a win for representative government. Lizen Caleber.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if our representatives started surveying the people they represent

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<v Speaker 2>as to how they would like to be represented in

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<v Speaker 2>this country, come up with a brand new form of

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<v Speaker 2>government called, I don't know, representative democracy. Possibility sounds incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>an I get one.

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<v Speaker 3>This is amazing and here's hoping it's a trend that

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<v Speaker 3>really takes off a lot of these councils surprisingly made

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<v Speaker 3>this move last year when, of course there was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of talk about the voice, and initially it was

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<v Speaker 3>looking popular in the polls. So I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of councils just took it upon themselves to assume, we

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<v Speaker 3>know what our people want. They clearly want the date change.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all virtue signaling in the direction of voting big

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<v Speaker 3>fat yes at the referendum. Of course, as the months

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<v Speaker 3>continued and the referendum day became closer and closer, it

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<v Speaker 3>became very obvious in the polls that this thing had

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<v Speaker 3>a snowflake's chance in hell of getting up. So you

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<v Speaker 3>do wonder how many of these councils that has been

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<v Speaker 3>part of the onus for them going, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>we probably need to revisit this.

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<v Speaker 4>That hats off to Ony council, hats off.

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<v Speaker 3>To Rockingham, because this is quite a humbling thing for

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<v Speaker 3>a council to do. They don't then have to go

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<v Speaker 3>back and ask the residents and then act accordingly. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's interesting to note that in each of these instances

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<v Speaker 3>it was the residents getting in touch with their councilors.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be a city councilor seriously, people smash

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<v Speaker 3>them with your emails. Get in their numbers matter because

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<v Speaker 3>it drives them to take action like this and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>even reverse their own decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know what I mean. Most of the correspondence

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<v Speaker 1>councilors received, as you would know, is from wackos. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>busybodies send ten emails a day to complain about things.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need more normal people to come out and

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<v Speaker 1>say what they actually think. I think what's happened here

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<v Speaker 1>is that people are actually starting to feel more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>to say that they like Australia Days. The moment I

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<v Speaker 1>think all of this turned was January this year, when,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Woolworth's to say I did that they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any Australia Day paraphernalia for sale in their supermarkets,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was quite a public backlash that then forced

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<v Speaker 1>Woolworths to actually stock some gear and say, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>we never meant that in the first blaze. Don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>I rubbish. We know what they were trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the first time I feel like people

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<v Speaker 1>actually stood up and said, no, we want Australia Day

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<v Speaker 1>to be celebrated on January the twenty sixth, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's emboldened people to actually come out and say

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<v Speaker 1>what they think. The Voice has probably played a small

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<v Speaker 1>part in that as well, because it was proof that

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<v Speaker 1>the silent majority is actually the majority. Even though most

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<v Speaker 1>of the media was taken up by people saying must

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<v Speaker 1>vote yes, you must vote yes, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>The activists haven't taken any notice of it. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>going hell for leather and pretending none of this ever happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But real Australians are actually feeling like they can show

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of national pride and thank God for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just hope this catches on and other council's cotton

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<v Speaker 1>on and go, well, hang on, maybe we should commission

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<v Speaker 1>a survey of our residents as well. What a novel

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<v Speaker 1>idea asking them what they want. Now, look, it is

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<v Speaker 1>better if you do that before you make decisions instead

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<v Speaker 1>of after making decisions. That would be ideal. But we

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<v Speaker 1>must give credit where it is due to Onley and

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<v Speaker 1>Rockingham for taking notice of their residents when they've come

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<v Speaker 1>through with their views. And it's interesting to note as

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<v Speaker 1>well that of the people who were polled in this

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<v Speaker 1>survey by Rockingham, of the Indigenous people who were polled,

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<v Speaker 1>even the majority of them said they would prefer Australia

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<v Speaker 1>Day celebrations to be on Australia Day itself. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how much clearer can it be? And let's hope it

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<v Speaker 1>keeps going. There's a campaign going in Adelaide now after

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<v Speaker 1>the only council decision on Monday night up in the

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<v Speaker 1>Adelaide Hills to get their council to reverse their decision.

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<v Speaker 1>A bunch of residents have banded together. They're running a campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've got a photograph here of some good

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<v Speaker 1>local patriots fund pay us action group where it is.

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<v Speaker 1>There's even a petition that's gone around up there, a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand signatory saying that they want Australia Day back where

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<v Speaker 1>it is. We need to see more of this because

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<v Speaker 1>I know sometimes it can feel like you're swimming against

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<v Speaker 1>the tide and that your vote really doesn't matter, and

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<v Speaker 1>your view really doesn't matter because everyone you hear in

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<v Speaker 1>the media and your counselors and your politicians isn't taking

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<v Speaker 1>much notice of what you're saying. But what we have

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<v Speaker 1>here is concrete proof that we can actually make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Ordinary Australians have to speak up about the things in

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<v Speaker 1>which they are interested and the things in which they believe.

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<v Speaker 2>The other interesting part of this, and you mentioned it, Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>is that since the Voice referendum, people have been emboldened.

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<v Speaker 2>It was about sixty percent nationally that voted against the Voice.

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<v Speaker 2>In Only it was sixty percent that voted to keep

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<v Speaker 2>Australia Day on January twenty six. In Rockingham it's been

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<v Speaker 2>sixty three percent. So that number seems to be fairly

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<v Speaker 2>consistent so far and overwhelmingly means a majority of Australians

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<v Speaker 2>aren't interested in race wars, aren't interested in revising everything.

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<v Speaker 2>As one of the residents from the Adelaide Hills who

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<v Speaker 2>we just pictured on screen said, history is history. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of it's good, some of it's bad. We've got to

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<v Speaker 2>move on with the world and get on as Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the overwhelming sentiment. And so let's hope

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<v Speaker 2>this momentum continues.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, don patriots, we ride at dawn for King and Country.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's interesting to note that that Ratepayers Association in

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<v Speaker 3>the Hills there who are on this bandwagon to get

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<v Speaker 3>their council to overturn their decision as well.

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<v Speaker 4>They said, if you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We're organizing our own massive extravaganza in Federation Park on

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<v Speaker 3>January twenty sixth anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can sob the National Day.

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<v Speaker 3>But we won't be to the UN General Assembly now

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<v Speaker 3>because we love paying out on these guys, so when

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<v Speaker 3>they sit, we pay attention. And one of our favorites,

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<v Speaker 3>Argentinian President Javier Malay, took the podium today to give

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<v Speaker 3>them a piece of his mind. It's no secret that

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<v Speaker 3>he's no fan of the UN. And the funny thing

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<v Speaker 3>about this is when he takes the podium, he's no

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<v Speaker 3>laughing matter. Since coming to power in December of last year,

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<v Speaker 3>he's done so many of the things that he promised.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, Argentina's share sorry not stock market, I was

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<v Speaker 3>about to say shareholders, that would be very nice, but

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<v Speaker 3>you might want to invest in Argentina.

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<v Speaker 4>Once I've told you this.

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<v Speaker 3>Argentina's stock market has surged more than forty four percent,

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<v Speaker 3>making it the top performing this year. This guy has

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<v Speaker 3>achieved wonders. He has slashed federal agencies by half from

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen to nine. He's slashed public spending by thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 3>And would you believe it when you're slash public spending.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens inflation goes down. When he came to power

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<v Speaker 3>in December, it was twenty five percent inflation in December.

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<v Speaker 3>It now sits at a humble four point two percent

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<v Speaker 3>in comparison. So they know that they can't can't laugh

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<v Speaker 3>this guy off stage even as he's going full Skirch

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<v Speaker 3>scorched earth on them, completely condemning their patch for the

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<v Speaker 3>future which they all signed up to. On Sunday, he

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<v Speaker 3>took the podium to say Argentina.

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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't be having a bar of it.

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<v Speaker 3>He called it socialist, and he said that instead Argentina

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<v Speaker 3>will be a vanguard for freedom.

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<v Speaker 4>Here he is.

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<v Speaker 5>This organization stopped looking after its main aim set out

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<v Speaker 5>in its founding declaration and started to change. This was

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<v Speaker 5>an organization that had essentially been thought up as a

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<v Speaker 5>shield to protect the rain of men, and it became

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<v Speaker 5>the leviathan with various tentacles purporting to decide not only

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<v Speaker 5>what not only what each nation state should do, but

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<v Speaker 5>also how all the citizens in the world should live.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how we move from being an organization that pursued

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<v Speaker 5>peace to an organization that imposes an ideolog ideology on

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<v Speaker 5>its members about an endless list of topics in society.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's far less rousing having a female with a

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<v Speaker 3>meat mouse like voice voice it for him. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling you he went scorched earth. This was exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>he did at the World Economics Davos in January, where

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<v Speaker 3>he basically just attended to tell them how trash they

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<v Speaker 3>were and that he wasn't signing up to any of

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<v Speaker 3>their agendas. I love that he still bothers to attend

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<v Speaker 3>and they still give him the platform, knowing that he's

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<v Speaker 3>just going.

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<v Speaker 4>To do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he stares him down. He just looks them straight

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<v Speaker 1>in the eye and tells him exactly what he thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are so lacking in political leaders like that

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<v Speaker 1>these days, who are willing to stand up for conviction.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we need to get Harvey Malay here and

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<v Speaker 1>run all of the councils and you wouldn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about Australia Day not being held on January twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>And the funniest thing about this Pact for the Future

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<v Speaker 1>that most of the UN signed up to this week

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<v Speaker 1>is that the whole idea of it is to save

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<v Speaker 1>the UN from becoming, you know, no longer a force

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<v Speaker 1>in the world because even the UN realizes now that

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<v Speaker 1>they are on the nose. Antonio Guterres, bloke who runs

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<v Speaker 1>a shop, said this will bring multilateralism back from the brink.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was the whole point of this pack

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<v Speaker 1>for the future, which by the way, says we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go faster towards the boards and all of this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. But they're just openly admitting we're a

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<v Speaker 1>bit stuffed here. We've lost our way. As Malay said, there,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole reason the UN was set up was to

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<v Speaker 1>stop conflict in the world, and you've utterly failed in

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<v Speaker 1>your duty to do that. They know that they've come

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<v Speaker 1>up with some cockeyed idea about will go faster towards baris.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, for even's sake, you are no good anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Just pack it in, go home, let us run our

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<v Speaker 1>own countries.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on him, and he went beyond that, and he

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<v Speaker 2>explained why the UN has lost all of its credibility

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<v Speaker 2>because it has no moral authority. He talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the United Nations is meant to stand for

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<v Speaker 2>human rights and yet has some of the worst human

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<v Speaker 2>rights abuses on those committees. He talked about the that Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 2>which won't allow women to show any bare skin in public,

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<v Speaker 2>is on the Committee for Women's Rights. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>promised those at the United Nations that Argentina would end

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<v Speaker 2>its long history of neutrality when it came to votes

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<v Speaker 2>at the United Nations, and he said, we don't care

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<v Speaker 2>who proposes what idea. We don't care whether there's consensus,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's popular or not. We will take an active

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<v Speaker 2>stance in voting for freedom and for human rights, freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of ownership of property,

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<v Speaker 2>limited government. And he said Argentina, from this point on,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not just going to sit back, and I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about this with Penny Wong's recent decision for Australia to

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<v Speaker 2>be neutral when it came to that vote on Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't want to upset people. We don't only

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<v Speaker 2>get involved, we're trying to play politics. And Malia simply

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<v Speaker 2>saying I will be a person of conviction and of

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<v Speaker 2>principle and you can count on that from Argentina. And

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<v Speaker 2>I am looking for a airline ticket because it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good place to be. And of course he

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<v Speaker 2>ended the speech with his now famous line which I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it's the second time I've heard him do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You've probably heard more.

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<v Speaker 1>Of him than I have.

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<v Speaker 2>But what does he say? Long Live Freedom? And then

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<v Speaker 2>he ends up live freedom damn it and leaves the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's quite the showman. But as you said, Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got the credibility to back it up.

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<v Speaker 4>They have to listen to him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's working for him, leaving, walking, breathing, talking proof of

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<v Speaker 3>how quickly a country can turn around under the right leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is why I always joke about our government. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't be this bad at your job accidentally. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>an accident. You know what is conducive to human flourishing,

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<v Speaker 3>You know what is conducive to a flourishing economy. You

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<v Speaker 3>won't even admit that government spending drives inflation. You guys

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<v Speaker 3>are still just spending it like it's well, not your money,

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<v Speaker 3>it's our money, so you don't care. These guys are

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<v Speaker 3>not doing the most basic things.

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<v Speaker 4>Every time we talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About our failing birth Rateyett, No matter what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>our government is falling short. These guy's only been in

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<v Speaker 3>the job a matter of months, and the transformation Argentina

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<v Speaker 3>has seen under this man's leadership is just extraordinary. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's a big I guess embarrassment to others looking on

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<v Speaker 3>because he's showing them up. This is just what one

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<v Speaker 3>strong leader who genuinely loves his country, who genuinely wants

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<v Speaker 3>the best for his people, this is what he can

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<v Speaker 3>pull off. And he doesn't go to places like the UN.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't go to places like the World Economic Forum.

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<v Speaker 4>To press the flesh and just fit in and not

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<v Speaker 4>be awkward.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes there to act absolutely like full barrels blasting,

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<v Speaker 3>tell them what he thinks of them, and say, you

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<v Speaker 3>guys don't do what's best for us. You don't do

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<v Speaker 3>what's best for any of these people signing up to

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<v Speaker 3>this pact.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not in on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said in his speech, I encourage all you

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<v Speaker 3>other follow me, follow my example.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't sign up to this crap.

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<v Speaker 1>You're onto a trick going to Argentina. I've got to say, James,

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<v Speaker 1>they have great steak over there, and they have very

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<v Speaker 1>good red wine. I'm going to join you if we're

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<v Speaker 1>going over there. And just very briefly, while we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the UN, Joe Biden got up and gave a

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<v Speaker 1>speech as well, sort of you know, closing out his

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<v Speaker 1>presidency and revising history. And he was talking about pulling

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<v Speaker 1>out of Afghanistan, which James mentioned before, and he said

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<v Speaker 1>it was a hard decision, but the right decision. Well, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>tell that to the troops who died over there, and

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<v Speaker 1>tell that to the Taliban. Well, they think it was

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<v Speaker 1>the right decision because of course you left all your

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<v Speaker 1>weapons behind and they just simply moved in and took them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done, hard decision, but the right decision. Give me

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<v Speaker 1>a break. While we're on overseas news, Harvey and Malay

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<v Speaker 1>and Biden have been speaking at the UN. Sir Kia Stama,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the new Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>has been speaking at the Labor Conference. And I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what he has come through with a chilling warning.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he does not know it is a chilling warning.

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<v Speaker 1>He's hid it straight faced as though it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it should be taken as a warning. Sir Kia

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<v Speaker 1>has promised to take more control of your life. Take

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<v Speaker 1>a listen.

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<v Speaker 6>Markets don't give you control. That's almost literally their point.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you want a country with more control, if

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<v Speaker 6>you want the great forces that affect your community to

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<v Speaker 6>be better managed, whether that's migration, climate change, law and order,

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<v Speaker 6>or security at work. Then that does mean more decisive government,

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<v Speaker 6>and that is a labor government. Taking back control is

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<v Speaker 6>a labor.

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<v Speaker 1>Argument, taking back control, by which he means you have

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<v Speaker 1>less choice and less freedom and the government makes more

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<v Speaker 1>decisions for you. He's not even hiding it, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>lying about it, saying this is Labor Party policy. We

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<v Speaker 1>control run your life as much as humanly possible. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he says that is the point of government. Well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what, you've done, a bloody bad job of

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<v Speaker 1>it for the last one hundred odd years, there and

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<v Speaker 1>here and everywhere else. As if we want to give

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<v Speaker 1>them more control. But he's like, sure, you gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a massive majority. I'm just going to take over the

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<v Speaker 1>old joint. He reminds me, to fix.

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<v Speaker 3>Your problems, give us more power, make it all go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Ignoring that they created the problems in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>This should be utterly terrified.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I watched this entire speech and I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, this is some totalitarian, tyrannical crap. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>is saying, in a very authoritative manner, he used the

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<v Speaker 3>words control or uncontrolled fifteen times uncontrolled to use to

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<v Speaker 3>refer to things that need more control. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>he's talking about more government interfere and this was such

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<v Speaker 3>a stark contrast to remember when he gave his first

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<v Speaker 3>speech as Prime minister and he literally said, I quote

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<v Speaker 3>that he would tread more lightly on your lives end quote.

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<v Speaker 3>What what's changed, kids, Darma?

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's all about control.

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<v Speaker 1>We need more control.

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<v Speaker 4>Any problems that we have is due to a lack

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<v Speaker 4>of control.

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<v Speaker 3>It's utterly completely unveiled their real agenda and the real

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<v Speaker 3>nature of the man who's now elected to be Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 2>As I'm watching his speech today, I'm reminded of Ronald

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<v Speaker 2>Reagan's words the nine most terrifying words in the English language.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from the government and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to help.

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<v Speaker 2>When did anybody ever believe that giving the government more

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<v Speaker 2>control was going to make things better? The one thing

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<v Speaker 2>I did like about his speech is he promised that

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<v Speaker 2>he was not afraid to be unpopular, and on that score,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say he's doing very well because he's increasingly unpopular.

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<v Speaker 2>The Daily Telegraph, which reported his speech, or sorry The

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<v Speaker 2>Telegraph in the UK, which reported his speech had at

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<v Speaker 2>last count I think it was just over six thousand

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<v Speaker 2>comments on that particular news report, which is astonishing that

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<v Speaker 2>of quick flick through there were no positive ones at all. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've talked about all that's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the United Nations. It's very interesting. The clampdown on freedoms

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK, that's fascinating. There's the US presidential election

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, assassination attempts on Trump News that there

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<v Speaker 2>are five hit squads after him. All of that is

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting. So when you turn on the World Today

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<v Speaker 2>on ABC Radio, you'd expect to get updated on all

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<v Speaker 2>of these things. In fact, the ABC's premier radio program

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<v Speaker 2>advertises itself as presenting events and issues of interest and

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<v Speaker 2>importance to all Australians.

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<v Speaker 1>So we turned it on.

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<v Speaker 2>Today and we heard that Ballarat has a transgender op shop.

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<v Speaker 7>An inclusive opshop has opened in Regional Victoria, providing a

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<v Speaker 7>safe space for gender diverse people to swap, try on

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<v Speaker 7>and purchase clothes. It all started two years ago in

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<v Speaker 7>one woman's garage in Ballarat. Is a way to give

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<v Speaker 7>the local trans and gender diverse community a chance to

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<v Speaker 7>find gender affirming clothes Now, thanks to some community fundraising

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<v Speaker 7>and a grant, the shop is out of the garage

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<v Speaker 7>and onto the street from Ballarat. Rhannon Stevens prepared this

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<v Speaker 7>report nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Jas ten bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 8>A bargain, yes for Ballarat resident Charlotte Johnson. She says

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<v Speaker 8>when she first transitioned, her style was constantly changing, so

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<v Speaker 8>having an affordable place to buy clothes is really helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you know what.

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<v Speaker 9>You want and then the next day you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 9>I hate this song now, I hate what I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 9>now to want to change it that quickly as well,

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<v Speaker 9>if you can walk in and go, oh, I just

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<v Speaker 9>want to grab like a couple of things. I think

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<v Speaker 9>this is what I want to look like now, and

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<v Speaker 9>then maybe next week you go, oh god, I hate

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<v Speaker 9>what I've got now.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless all the people using that fine facility. But

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<v Speaker 2>events and issues of interest and importance to all Australians,

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<v Speaker 2>we do you reckon that would rank in importance to

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<v Speaker 2>all Australians.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just such an ABC story, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I brought to the story the other night

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<v Speaker 1>about how the ABC was saying that television was now

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote vehemently bisexual. I mean, you know who's thought

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<v Speaker 1>about this, No one who cares about it. No one.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can imagine my shock this afternoon. I do

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<v Speaker 1>actually listen to the World Today most days because my god, Blase,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it pays to see what the enemy is saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got to say, they do actually do a

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<v Speaker 1>fair bit of decent work and journalism on that program.

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<v Speaker 1>But they then rounded out today by telling us about

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<v Speaker 1>a transgender op shop in Ballarat, Like nowhere else would

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<v Speaker 1>that get a run except the ABC. It goes to

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<v Speaker 1>prove I suppose that the ABC knows their audience well,

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<v Speaker 1>because most ABC listeners were probably listening to the Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that lovely? There's a transgender op shop in Ballarat.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought a transgender person could go to the same

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<v Speaker 1>op shops as the rest of us. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>said they're, oh, you know, I changed my mind every

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes about what I want to wear. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that just sounds like every woman I've ever known, for

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<v Speaker 1>Heaven's sake. But they pointed out in this story that

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<v Speaker 1>apparently Ballarat ten percent of their population identifies as LGBTIQ,

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<v Speaker 1>which is twice the national average. Ballarat, of all places.

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<v Speaker 1>Many times I like Ballarat. It's a bloody cold place,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you. But I've got no idea why

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<v Speaker 1>they would have such a high rate. But obviously it's

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<v Speaker 1>enough of a market for a transgender op shop.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I just don't see how it would differ from

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<v Speaker 3>a normal op shop, Like these people don't wear different

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<v Speaker 3>clothes to us.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because I turn over my wardrobe so much,

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<v Speaker 4>I can go in and it's ten bucks. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's every op shop. That's what op shops do. I

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<v Speaker 4>would know. I'm a very avid opshop on myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the point of it is, if you're a biological

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<v Speaker 2>man and you're looking to buy a dress and you

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<v Speaker 2>go into a women's clothing store, the people are concerned

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<v Speaker 2>with this op shop said, you know, you feel judged

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<v Speaker 2>and so this is a place where no one's going

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<v Speaker 2>to look at them wondering what is going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's know that that is true in today's day

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<v Speaker 3>and age, and it's very typical of the ABC to

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<v Speaker 3>once again be pushing this narrative.

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<v Speaker 4>Australia is racist, Australia is bigoted. I simply don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, if there's transgender people out there who would just

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<v Speaker 3>feel more comfortable in this environment. That's awesome and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad that we've created this space. But essentially, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe that we need these kinds of spaces for someone

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<v Speaker 3>to go shopping.

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<v Speaker 4>Australia is not that country.

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<v Speaker 1>If I saw someone who looked like they were a

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<v Speaker 1>man in the women's section of David Jones, Mars or River,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably assumed that they were shopping for their partner.

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<v Speaker 1>My first thought wouldn't be why is there a man

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<v Speaker 1>in the woman's section? Is I really don't think anyone

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<v Speaker 1>actually keys I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would end well evidently the ABC, and that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Report some real stories, especially on the world today. Give

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<v Speaker 2>us some stories from you know, the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you saying this doesn't affect the state of the nation, James,

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<v Speaker 3>what a bigot to America. Now when Trump has decided

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<v Speaker 3>that should he become president, he's going to get a

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<v Speaker 3>manufacturing ambassador.

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<v Speaker 4>He is sick of.

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<v Speaker 3>Companies migrating overseas for better rates.

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<v Speaker 4>And better terms so they can be more lucrative. He says,

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<v Speaker 4>now we are going to be going after.

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<v Speaker 3>Their jobs and bringing them back to America, where they

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<v Speaker 3>belong in frankly where they want to be here, he

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<v Speaker 3>is addressing one of is rallies.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to bring thousands and thousands of businesses and

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<v Speaker 1>trillions of dollars in wealth back to the good old USA.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're going to be doing it, and doing

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<v Speaker 2>it fast.

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<v Speaker 3>I want German car companies to become American car companies.

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to build their plans here. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be China in electronics production, and we'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that easily.

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Make America great again, he said.

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<v Speaker 4>For years we have watched them steal our jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>Under a Trump presidency, I'm getting them all back and

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<v Speaker 3>then some Why don't we hear our own prime minister

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<v Speaker 3>talk like this, like there's so much more we could

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<v Speaker 3>do in this space, and which was particularly highlighted during

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 3>the pandemic, just how we make nothing here but we

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<v Speaker 3>have zero manufacturing here.

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 2>We're going to manufacture solar panels.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you not heard?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm sorry, I forgot. We're going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>green energy superpower of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the manufacing boom, but we are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the green energy superpower that will kill all the koalas

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 2>along the way exactly we talked about, we have no

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<v Speaker 2>food to eat. All the agricultural land will be used up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just hope he can actually pull this off,

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<v Speaker 1>because what he's saying is that he will make offers

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<v Speaker 1>to companies to come over and set up shop in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, and he will give them tax breaks for

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<v Speaker 1>doing so, which I think is brilliant. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>argued for a common time that we should have states

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<v Speaker 1>doing that here in Australia. Why shouldn't South Australia or

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria or New South Wales say to a business that's

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<v Speaker 1>headquartered in another state, if you come and set up

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<v Speaker 1>shop in our state, we'll give you a tax break,

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<v Speaker 1>we might give you some discounted land on which to

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<v Speaker 1>put your building up and whatever, and encourage business to

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<v Speaker 1>do things like that to move around create competitive federalism,

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<v Speaker 1>which they have between the States and the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>We simply don't have it here and I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>all the worse off for it. So what he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>is he'll give tax breaks to companies if they come

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<v Speaker 1>and set up shop in America, and then he will

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<v Speaker 1>put tariffs on companies that refuse to set up shop

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<v Speaker 1>in America. That's great, it just relies on companies actually

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<v Speaker 1>coming and setting up shop. Of course, the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>companies aren't working and building and doing stuff in America

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<v Speaker 1>is because it's cheaper to do it elsewhere. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>like that for a long time. That's why we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a car manufacturing industry in this country anymore. So

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<v Speaker 1>if no one takes up the office, sorry, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Trump whacks all these tariffs on people, then you potentially

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<v Speaker 1>end up in a situation where the product becomes more

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>expensive for the consumer. You've actually got to make a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where it is consusive to manufacture things in your country,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the moment, in most of the West, it's

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<v Speaker 1>simply too expensive to do that. Turning that around like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he's giving it a go, or saying he'll

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<v Speaker 1>give it a go, But to turn that around is

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<v Speaker 1>a very big ship.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's actually naming companies American companies that are thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of moving offshore and saying, if you do this, we

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>will slap tariffs on your products. So it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>attracting investment, but it's making sure they keep the companies

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 2>they've got and the factories open. I'm trying to think,

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<v Speaker 2>what do we really manufacture in this country? Not that

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<v Speaker 2>much anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot air from the ABC transit, and the of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course he's thinking to putting particularly large tasks on Chinese goods,

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<v Speaker 2>which goes to this point that our own government argued

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<v Speaker 2>for all of three seconds and then forgot about it,

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 2>that we need to gain some independence from China in

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 2>the event of conflict in the future. We need to

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of mitigate against that. Trump's outright saying this is

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<v Speaker 2>what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, and I hope he has luck at it, because

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>if he can pull that off and he can get

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>manufacturing back in the US, then it ought to be

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>a blueprint for the rest of the Western world and

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>countries like ours that used to be manufacturing superpowers. You

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<v Speaker 1>go back fifty years and manufacturing was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest employers in this country. We simply don't have it now.

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<v Speaker 1>We've brought you a few clips along the way in

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the last month or two from MASNBC because they've been

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<v Speaker 1>having these sort of sit downs with what they think

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>are ordinary people and asking them what they think about

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the presidential election. We brought you a clip of a

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>reporter at MASNBC talking to black people about what they

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<v Speaker 1>think about Kamalahara and saying, well, we don't actually think

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>she's all that good. Probably not the response they expected.

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>They asked a bunch of women what they thought of

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harrison. They said, well, we don't really care that

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>she's a woman. Oh my god, it's going so well

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>for MSNBC. You'd imagine they were hoping they'd say, oh,

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Trump bad, Kamal are good? Will they manage to not

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>pull it off again? Asking a bunch of workers, some

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of them manufacturing workers. These are unionists that they're interviewing

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>what they think about January sixth, which of course was

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote insurrection nearly four years ago where Donald

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Trump tried to overthrow the presidential result. Well, they were asked,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Have a listen, tell me about your level of interest

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 3>in the criminal charges.

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<v Speaker 4>And so forth.

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<v Speaker 10>February sixth, January sex So I remember that day. I

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<v Speaker 10>know he was the standing president. I'm not familiar with

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 10>the chargers that are doing right against him. That I

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 10>don't I'm not following that charge for the you know,

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 10>there's multiple court cases going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just not.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 10>Familiar with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that doesn't sound like it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a factor in deciding who to work for.

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>No, No, it doesn't sound like it's going to be

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a factor. Does it. Isn't it amazing when these narratives

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>get shot by the very channels that are trumpeting them

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>every day because they ask ordinary people what they think.

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>And I just hope that this means that all of

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<v Speaker 1>this law fair that has been waged upon Donald Trump,

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>including about January sixth, on which they are trying to

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>have him locked up so he either has to run

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the country from prison or is in prison before the election,

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>which isn't going to happen now because of things that

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>happened in the Supreme Court. But hopefully it means that

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the law fare has not cut through in the way

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they hoped it would. In fact, as I've been saying

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, I think it's worked in Trump's favor.

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 4>I just love when they interview that guy.

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 2>And as we were watching that clip, Liz was having

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 2>a good old chuckle when you know, what do you

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 2>think about the Insurrection's like, it just goes to show

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 2>that it's really important to rust it on democrats who

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>hate Donald Trump, but for the majority of the country,

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 2>they see it for what it is. It's a distraction

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 2>and they're really focused on cost of living, trying to

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>find a house, and America's place in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like everybody else.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of places in the world, Queensland has got awesome

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 2>problems with crime. And if you want to know just

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 2>how bad the problems with crime are, have look at

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 2>this headline from the Courier Mail. Motorists in Queensland urged

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>to lock up while driving after spate of carjackings. So

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 2>if ever there's a government soft on crime, that's the

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.479
<v Speaker 2>kind of headline you're going to get. This comes two

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 2>weeks after a sixty five year old grandmother was followed

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>to her car by masked men, held up at knife point.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 2>They stole her BMW and police are now saying, well,

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>if you want to be safe, we can't keep you safe,

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 2>but you can keep yourself safe lock your doors while

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>you're driving. It sounds a little bit like South Africa

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>where they tell you do that and by the way,

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>and run red lights. Don't stop for red lights either.

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.719
<v Speaker 2>But now we're getting this sort of advice from law

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 2>enforcement officials in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you'd think it's not advice that they would even

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<v Speaker 3>need to give under these circumstances.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 4>But it made me realize I do this all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that just a female fee?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know. Probably my car just automatically locks,

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like it just knows that you're not going to.

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Have I'm driving nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>Just know I won't be driving an oudy for much longer.

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>It's an absolute limit. Well, my model is an absolute

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>limit anyway, the money I put through them, m I

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>put my mechanics kid through private school. Don't worry about

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that partly un exactly, But you're right, are we talking

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>about Johannesburg or Brisbane here? Right? Okay? Sure it might

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>be a quote unquote common sense thing to say lock

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>your car, right, but you would like to think that

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>in a first world city like Brisbane, the first world

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>state like Queensland, that you would be safe to drive

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>around without having to worry that you're going to be

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>carjacked and that you have to lock the door all

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the time while you're sitting at the lights. It feels

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to me a bit like victim blaming, isn't it saying well,

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't locked your car door. Well, what did

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you expect? Of course a gang a young Queenslanders is

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>going to come and steal your car from you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean this is a government.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't lock up criminals, but if you lock yourself

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>in your car, see, then you'll be safe. I mean

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>seriously that the government's got one job really keep people safe,

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 2>and they're failing on an epic scale.

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<v Speaker 4>And anger is yeah, sorted, We're done here for goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>While we're on Queensland and motoring, the RACQ has called

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<v Speaker 1>for people who drive caravans to be put through specialized training.

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<v Speaker 1>And to that, I say, here here, now, the road

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>toll in Queensland has gone through the roof this year.

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<v Speaker 1>They are pouring over absolutely everything to work out why

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<v Speaker 1>this is and what can possibly be done about it.

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<v Speaker 11>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of crashes that involve people towing caravans or

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>light trailers isn't high, but it has prompted them to say, well,

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>hang on a minute, we have quite a few problems

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>here and things that could be done. This here is

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>an example of a caravan being towed along and of

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>course you get some crosswinds or whatever go on. You

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:20.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to handle it and you end up

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>in the sticks. If you're towing a caravan, that is

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a very heavy piece of kit you have on the

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>back of your car. And we just allow people to

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>take off across the country wherever they're going, put this

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.760
<v Speaker 1>massive thing on the back of the car and expect

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that they know how to tow it, how to reverse it,

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>how to deal with it in crosswinds, etc. It's not

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>just like getting behind the fat five hundred wheel like

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you are actually towing something quite significant there. I can't

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.240
<v Speaker 1>see an argument for why you shouldn't have to undertake

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>extra training to do that.

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 11>For trust is like you, you're normally the one being

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 11>like bloody count souls.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just a g up.

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<v Speaker 4>By government revenue raising.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you've got to what a caravan license.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't even just get.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 3>Your motor home, hoog it on the back of you

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 3>and go for a drive. Now, this bloody grundy state

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 3>government that would normally be you you're arguing for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I'm not saying that it should cost you

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars to go and do it where you

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.760
<v Speaker 1>ought to have before you're allowed to put a caravan

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<v Speaker 1>on the back of your car. I don't think that's unfair.

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<v Speaker 3>You just accepted that the rate of this happening is very,

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<v Speaker 3>very low.

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<v Speaker 4>It's almost negligible.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a sign that Caleb is getting older and

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<v Speaker 2>he's starting to think, you know, becoming a great nomad

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<v Speaker 2>going around.

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<v Speaker 1>Kayle behind that think, be out of bullet fast. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no toebar on it either. Before we go to a break,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked earlier about Kyastama. If you haven't already seen

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<v Speaker 1>this clip today, I'm about to introduce you to He

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to talk about hostages being held in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't talk about hostages.

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<v Speaker 6>I call again from immediate ceasefire and Gaza, the return

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<v Speaker 6>of the sausages, the hostages.

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<v Speaker 1>On the return of the sausages. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if he wasn't talking about such a serious issue, to

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<v Speaker 1>be even funnier, but where the heldag sausages come from?

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<v Speaker 1>It was he thinking about his dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>And he looks like he's reading from an auto You

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<v Speaker 3>if someone's getting fired someone wrote sausages instead of hostages,

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 3>or you miss Reddit, But sausages looks nothing like hostages.

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<v Speaker 3>And also what part of your brain wouldn't be thinking

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<v Speaker 3>nowhere in this speech. Am I referring to sausages? So

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<v Speaker 3>this must be the wrong word. This is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a moment that he is going to wake up

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<v Speaker 3>decades from now in a cold sweat at four am,

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<v Speaker 3>getting bold upright in.

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<v Speaker 4>Bed, still going. I cannot, Liz believe I said this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was even worse than that. He went on to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about sausages and mash immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go to a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we come back. We'll look at what's making last tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Instick ground. Okay, let's take a look at what we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be making news tomorrow. Caleb is starting it off in Tasmania.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, I am where it says tomorrow, kicking it down

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<v Speaker 1>the road. TASMANI has long away to contain. A deposit

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<v Speaker 1>scheme is expected to be operating by the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>next year. Parks Environment Minister Nick Dugen sears, Now you

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<v Speaker 1>might say, well, who really gives a toss. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>these things around the country for some time. New South

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Wales has got one, now I think Victoria's got one.

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Now South Australia's had one since about the nineteen eighties. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you read on, it's is after a feasibility study

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and nine, a cost benefit analysis in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, and a model framework into twenty eighteen, past

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<v Speaker 1>the Container Refund Scheme Act in twenty twenty two. The

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>regulations were drafted in twenty twenty three, and it will

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<v Speaker 1>start in mid twenty twenty five. How long can it

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<v Speaker 1>possibly take to sit up a scheme where you're taken

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<v Speaker 1>your bottles and cans and they give you ten seats back.

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<v Speaker 2>For goodness, the Great Wall of China was built in

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<v Speaker 2>more time than that flipping legislation sixteen years wow, from

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<v Speaker 2>feasibility study to okay, you can you know, return your

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<v Speaker 2>containers for your deposit? Now, no wonder. We can't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything in this country that's a container deposit.

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<v Speaker 3>So when all these studies costs as well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we've probably spent enough on it to have built it

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<v Speaker 3>three times over.

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<v Speaker 11>We're amongst all these feasibility studies, cost benefit of analysts.

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<v Speaker 11>Then we had a moral framework, Then we thought it about

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<v Speaker 11>it a little few more years, and then we we

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<v Speaker 11>drafted some legislation, and then we got that legislation passed,

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<v Speaker 11>and now it's going to be starting mid next year.

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<v Speaker 2>And you said model framework, I thought you said moral framework,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to take at Estar. He is about this. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have this as part of his control regime

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<v Speaker 1>over there, and it'll take.

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<v Speaker 3>Justice to the front page of the odds Now. Game

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<v Speaker 3>on visa appeals surge. Australia's courts and tribunals are bracing

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<v Speaker 3>for tens of thousands of international students to appeal against

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 3>the refusal or cancelation of their visas, amid concerns that

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<v Speaker 3>foreign visa holders are gaming the system to circumvent a

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<v Speaker 3>federal government push to slash net migration. We know we've

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<v Speaker 3>got over seven hundred thousand, seven hundred thousand international students

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<v Speaker 3>in the country right now.

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<v Speaker 4>The federal government.

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<v Speaker 3>Has said, hey, we're gonna slash that literally by three quarters.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just going to have about a quarter of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you, but I don't quite believe them.

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<v Speaker 3>But get this, then all those international student do is

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<v Speaker 3>lodge an appeal and that can take years to process.

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<v Speaker 3>So then we just have these government agencies working on

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<v Speaker 3>these appeals four years. They've already been hit with well

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 3>over ten thousand of these appeals since September last year.

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<v Speaker 4>This is just an absence nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>Why can't the government simply say, especially to those international

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<v Speaker 3>students who came here because they'd signed up to those

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 3>ghost unis that never even existed and never taught anyone anything.

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<v Speaker 4>See you later. This is this is the visas canceled, goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the point. Right they need to expedite these

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<v Speaker 1>appeals reviews stat because the Australian is saying that it's

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<v Speaker 1>understood that most of these refusals are students quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>from India and China, so we know what they're up to.

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<v Speaker 1>They've come here on a student visa because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>way to get into the country, and then they want

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<v Speaker 1>to stay forever. Government, quite rightly, and good on the

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>alban Easy government for actually taking the right tone on

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<v Speaker 1>this for once has turned out and said no, you're

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.359
<v Speaker 1>abusing the visa system. You ought to go. They then

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>just find a way to stay here for years extra

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>as if we cannot find a way to do this

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>faster than taking years and years and years. Just another

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<v Speaker 1>thing the government.

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<v Speaker 11>Can sell you.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment I read this this evening, I got

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 2>on the phone, rang my son. I said, ditch your

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 2>plumbing apprenticeship. Become a migration lawyer. That's the future, my son,

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:28.760
<v Speaker 2>He'll make a fortune.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll never be out of business.

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<v Speaker 3>To the second headline on the front of the os

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<v Speaker 3>ABC of irony in chairs call. ABC chair Kim Williams

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<v Speaker 3>has warned of the dangers of quote fake news end quote,

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<v Speaker 3>less than a week after the public broadcaster was forced

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<v Speaker 3>to establish an independent review when it emerged that it's

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 3>seriously misrepresented the actions of an Australian soldier during a

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve operation in Afghanistan. The article goes on to

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<v Speaker 3>say that, delivering his keynote address at the Lowry in

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<v Speaker 3>This Institute, Kim Williams spoke of quote the vital importance

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<v Speaker 3>of trustworthy news coverage about international affairs. A strong media,

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<v Speaker 3>led by people who believe in professional journalistic ethics is

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<v Speaker 3>one of our most important democratic assets.

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<v Speaker 4>Will it would be Kim if we had one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>does he have some sort of.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird ponchong for I don't know, self flagellating in public.

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<v Speaker 4>Behind a podium.

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<v Speaker 2>ABC chair warns Australians do not watch the ABC essentially

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<v Speaker 2>that's the story, right, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, look, going back to what we were talking about, earlier.

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>They are actually doing accurate journalism now because they have

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>correctly identified that there is a transgender optop in Ballarat.

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>They didn't bagger that story up. But let's just hope

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.399
<v Speaker 1>people at the ABC were taking notice of what their

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 1>chairman said today because of it. Even as I said,

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 1>irony is dead, it is.

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 2>It is no need for satire anymore. They're doing it

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 2>to themselves. The career mail front page shortened memories, Labor

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 2>revives negative gearing cuts plan. Anthony Elbanzi and his Treasurer

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Jim Chalmers have refused to rule out changes to negative

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 2>gearing amid revelations Treasury officials investigated policy options. The prospect

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 2>of resurrecting this tax, of course, revives memories of Bill

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Shorten losing the twenty nineteen campaign when he made all

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>sorts of promises. The interesting thing about this story is

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 2>it's only a week ago, speaking of the ABC that

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Elberizi, when asked about this, replied, that's not a

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 2>very clever question and tried to pooh poo it. And

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<v Speaker 2>now we find out the government have been seeking all.

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Sorts of advice.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is why he responded like that, because Patricia

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Carvellers simply asked him is this off the table or not?

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 3>And instead of answering yes or no, he got really snarky,

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>in which case we knew the answer wasn't yes, it's

0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 3>off the table, was it? This government can't seem to

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 3>help itself. First they weren't going to change anything about

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 3>your super. Then they change stuff about you Super. Then

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 3>they weren't going to do the stage cars three tax cards.

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 4>That wasn't a thing. Everyone calmed down.

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Then Capital Brief busted them and leaked the info saying

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 3>that YO know that charmers. The Treasurer has asked the

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 3>relevant departments to get cooking some option should they decide

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:25.800
<v Speaker 3>to take that route.

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 4>They took that route.

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Now we've been gas lit and are now finding out

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 3>that this too is definitely not off the table, in

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 3>fact pretty much underway if he's already tasked them up.

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 4>With looking at options.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I can't understand is this close to an election,

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 3>you're begging to.

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Lose the bloke has done for brains? Why well, because

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 1>possibly they're sidling up to the Greens in the event

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that they end up in a hung parliament. Because of

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>course that the greens want, but it is so dumb

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.280
<v Speaker 1>on so many levels. It will lead to higher rents

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>because if you can't negatively gear your property and you

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>want to continue to own the property, you've got to

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>get the money from somewhere, so you'll jack the rent up,

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>or you'll put the property on the market. And the

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>people renting the properties aren't just magically going to have

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the money to go and buy them. The people who

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>will buy them are even richer investors. So labor will

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>actually funnel more money into the pockets of even richer people.

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Great labor policy, ain't well, We're.

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Going to go to a break when we come back.

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 2>The Chinese zoo apologizing for their panda exhibit, which turned

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 2>out to be a pack of dogs.

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<v Speaker 4>That's coming up in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we hear a lot of confessions, but this

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.919
<v Speaker 2>admission from a Chinese zoo, Liz, this one, it's up there.

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 4>I absolutely love this.

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.439
<v Speaker 3>So a Chinese zoo has been forced to confess that

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 3>their pandas are in fact not pandas. After visitors to

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 3>the Shanwei Zoo in China's eastern Guangdong province, they were

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 3>so excited to see these pandas advertised, They went to

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 3>the enclosure, but were really confused when these pandas began

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 3>barking and panting like dogs. The zoo then tried it on,

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 3>saying that these were a rare breed of panda dogs,

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 3>before eventually confessing that they just dyed two puppies black

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 3>and white to resemble.

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Know how long were they on display before people surely

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>people realized Well.

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 3>This footage then went viral, right, so people all around

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 3>the world are.

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:42.320
<v Speaker 11>Commenting on it, being like that is not a panda

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 11>in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>Shape, or it's not even the right side. It's like

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it's nothing. I've got to give them points for creativity

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:54.879
<v Speaker 1>because because doing that dye job on a dog, I imagine

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 1>cannot be an easy time.

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:57.240
<v Speaker 4>They would have put it to sleep.

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>That's quite. It reminds me of you know, Fine Cotton,

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 1>which was in the nineteen eighties, the greatest ringing of

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>all time, where they wanted to get a much faster

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 1>horse to run under the name of Fine Cotton, which

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>was really slow. It was the biggest betting plunge in history, right,

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and the three idiots who organized all of this were

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 1>literally on the morning of the race standing in the

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>front yard of this joint in suburban Brisbane, realizing that

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>having dyed the horse with box dye from the supermarket

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>turned out bright orange, and then standing the lawn, hosing

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it down and then painting up its feet with like

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>white house painting stuff. Then they tried to.

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 2>This story raises a question, right, Remember when Anthony Elbaneze

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 2>went to China and everyone wanted to know, so what

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 2>did you do? What did you talk about?

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Is like, we talked about.

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 2>The pandas drinking. Those were the pandas and Elbow went

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and saw and he was so enamored with I wouldn't

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 2>put it past him.

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 3>I have a friend who genuinely believes that pandas were

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<v Speaker 3>just created by China panda diplomacy, because you only lease

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<v Speaker 3>a panda, right, You can't own your own panda. They're

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<v Speaker 3>all Chinese owned and they just lease them out and

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<v Speaker 3>we pay how much money.

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<v Speaker 4>Year in and year out?

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<v Speaker 3>To look at these bears who contribute nothing to the ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd be utterly useless in the wild. They'd be dead

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<v Speaker 3>within sixty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Seem to be the most fake kind of made up

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<v Speaker 3>animal ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can now you can own your own panda.

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<v Speaker 1>Just get your dog and dark very quickly. Before by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, there's no pandas in Springfield, Ohio. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>go Spain. While we're on the animal theme, has decided

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<v Speaker 1>to give primates human rights. This is orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been given human rights quote unquote because they've decided

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<v Speaker 1>that they should not be subjected to animal testing because

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<v Speaker 1>they are so closely related to humans. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand it to animal testing on the nose, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to tell you. If it's the difference between me

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<v Speaker 1>being able to survive because through some medical treatment and

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<v Speaker 1>a gorilla surviving, I'm going to sacrifice the gorilla.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it from us stick Around. Coming up is The

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<v Speaker 2>Reader Penney Show. Good Night,