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Speaker 1: Oh, this one's so interesting. I'm so excited. It's a
Speaker 1: little bit relatable to you.
Speaker 2: Our Freaky Friday submission, which is totally anonymous. We can't
Speaker 2: see who actually submitted this, but here's the story. It
Speaker 2: was twenty years ago. I was twenty two ish and
Speaker 2: I had a FWB, which is friends with benefits guy.
Speaker 2: Let's name him Blake. I was already working with him
Speaker 2: and I was his manager. I started to hook up
Speaker 2: with one of his mates for a few weeks, which
Speaker 2: was fine as Blake was just a friends with benefit
Speaker 2: at the time. But one night we were all at
Speaker 2: a party, a few drinks, all having a blast, and
Speaker 2: I went home with his friend, but he was staying
Speaker 2: at Blake's house, super awkward. Both the bedrooms only had
Speaker 2: a door in between them, and I was fooling around
Speaker 2: with the mate, and then I went to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: As I came back, Blake was awake and if we
Speaker 2: could cuddle, so I jumped into bed with him and
Speaker 2: we kissed and hands wandered, et cetera. But then I
Speaker 2: felt bad, so I went back to bed with his mate,
Speaker 2: but then I really wanted Blake, as we just connected
Speaker 2: so much more with that sexual chemistry. So I got
Speaker 2: back up off the bed and I went and had
Speaker 2: sex with Blake.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, full two guys and one night.
Speaker 2: Then I could hear the mate get out of bed.
Speaker 2: The door opened, so I hid under the blankets so
Speaker 2: he didn't see me at all, and he just left.
Speaker 2: I felt physically all the next day that I even
Speaker 2: did that, and I got shaky and nauseous and I
Speaker 2: felt so bad. Definitely a one time thing. I had
Speaker 2: fun at the time, it wasn't worth the amount of
Speaker 2: guilt that I had afterwards, And for anyone judging, I
Speaker 2: had all the same thoughts about myself.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what an experience.
Speaker 2: I know, that's wild. Isn't it so interesting? Like having
Speaker 2: like the fear of being caught in the act?
Speaker 1: Almost what is it like? That's the exciting part? Do
Speaker 1: you think I like?
Speaker 2: I mean when I had this experience, I think it
Speaker 2: was that it was like I'm not committed to anybody
Speaker 2: and I can do what I want, kind of like
Speaker 2: the freedom element, the freedom element, but it's also like
Speaker 2: the seductress version of Tiana, Like, yeah, like she wanted
Speaker 2: to come out and be like kind of loved. Like
Speaker 2: when I was younger, when I had inexperience similar to this,
Speaker 2: being like it was the novelty of it, like being
Speaker 2: the seductress, knowing that you could seduce two men, not
Speaker 2: at the same time, but like you know, within the
Speaker 2: same timeframe, you know, and knowing that like you would
Speaker 2: desired in that way, right you know. So it's almost like, oh,
Speaker 2: but like this man wants me, but then this man
Speaker 2: wants me, and it's like having that variety of like, oh,
Speaker 2: I feel so desired.
Speaker 1: Feeling desired is something we all craven.
Speaker 2: Want, such a huge thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had one experience when I was younger, obviously
Speaker 1: before I met Steve. It was at this place called Fishow's.
Speaker 1: It was like the place to be on a Sunday night.
Speaker 1: I remember being at one end of FI shows talking
Speaker 1: to a guy and like getting connected with him and
Speaker 1: having fun and floating, and then the other end of
Speaker 1: shows not the guy that I'm talking to, and then
Speaker 1: at the end of the night it was like I've
Speaker 1: also never had a one night stand, so nothing happened,
Speaker 1: but I was like, which guy, don't want to go
Speaker 1: home with you. I get to choose the selection. They
Speaker 1: both want me and what was exciting is eighteen year
Speaker 1: old and it was fun. Love that. Yeah, I so
Speaker 1: get that.
Speaker 2: I remember, like I would like walk into a nightclub
Speaker 2: and like always like float with like one specific security guard.
Speaker 2: He was like my nightclub date. He would always like
Speaker 2: float and just have like good chemistry and stuff. But
Speaker 2: then if I was a man that I was seeing,
Speaker 2: and it would be like I'd be flirting with him
Speaker 2: and then I'd go and you know, go and like
Speaker 2: to see the man that I'm seeing, and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Naught so bad.
Speaker 2: Especially as a security guard. I could imagine from his
Speaker 2: perspective seeing and observing everything being completely sober, everyone else
Speaker 2: for shit, you know, and then being like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: that's wild.
Speaker 1: Would Tatiana now enjoy that or is it more like
Speaker 1: a younger version of yourself, a younger version of myself?
Speaker 2: For sure, I think my values have changed a lot now,
Speaker 2: whereas like Tatiana can think of those things and like
Speaker 2: I cannot judge myself for that and be like, oh cool,
Speaker 2: they'd be kind of fun and freaky and like play
Speaker 2: this seductre's role, but I think I don't have a
Speaker 2: desire to be that seductress like what I did when
Speaker 2: I was younger. When I was younger, it was fun
Speaker 2: and playful.
Speaker 1: And like exploring.
Speaker 2: I got so many needs met from it, and I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I love this, And now I don't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I literally can't even have sex with somebody
Speaker 2: unless I have a connection with them, or even start
Speaker 2: seeing somebody until I have like an emotional connection with
Speaker 2: somebody that's really important to me. So it's like more
Speaker 2: exclusive now, whereas like when I was younger, I was
Speaker 2: a little bit more risky along those lines.
Speaker 1: So much changes as you get all the hay and
Speaker 1: every season has its purpose and you enjoy it and
Speaker 1: there's no shame around it. But it's funny to look
Speaker 1: back and be like, whoh, I did that, and.
Speaker 2: Even I know and even like that story of me
Speaker 2: doing that like that, even to talk about now feels
Speaker 2: so like edgy because I'm like, oh fuck, I'm so
Speaker 2: not like that now. It's so different to that now.
Speaker 2: But then also doing that I was fun, but then I.
Speaker 1: Feel guilty as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like would seductress Tatiana have feel guilty
Speaker 2: if I didn't get caught.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I got caught. And when you say Edgy
Speaker 1: Edgiere talking about the podcast in fear of what people
Speaker 1: will say or think.
Speaker 2: Of you, I think it's my own maybe my own judgments.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah that too.
Speaker 2: People can totally make an assumption about me. But it's
Speaker 2: like I almost have maybe judgments around that now because
Speaker 2: I behave such a different way.
Speaker 1: It feels like a different person. It feels like a
Speaker 1: different version of me. Yeah, which is cool. That's a
Speaker 1: part of evolving and growing. I feel like every single
Speaker 1: person listening and maybe you've got judgments coming up right
Speaker 1: now about or this person, right, yeah, which is so fine.
Speaker 1: We all judge. But it's just like, how much have
Speaker 1: you changed over the years. What fucked up stuff did
Speaker 1: you when you're younger? What mistakes did you make? Everyone?
Speaker 1: Humans are so messy and anyone on their high horse
Speaker 1: saying I would never do that. Yeah, maybe you wouldn't
Speaker 1: do that, but maybe you would do something that we
Speaker 1: wouldn't do. This stuff And this is what Freaky Fridays
Speaker 1: is all about. Absolutely, It's about shedding the shame, bringing
Speaker 1: light to it. Having some fun with it looking back
Speaker 1: and reflecting me like, holy fuck, what was I think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like did that? Just have this is what it's all about.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's cool as well, Like when I read this submission,
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, yeah, girl, I'm like, you live your life,
Speaker 2: like experience those things.
Speaker 1: Get it out of your system.
Speaker 2: If you need to do those things, like, yeah, have
Speaker 2: at it, you know.
Speaker 1: But then when it's.
Speaker 2: Yourself, which is so true, it's such a.
Speaker 1: Cool this is happening in the moment.
Speaker 2: We have these judgments on ourselves, but then when we
Speaker 2: see other people do it, we almost sometimes have more compassion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'mlebrate it more.
Speaker 2: I'm like, go fucking get a girl, Like that's so fine.
Speaker 2: I see you in that and there's no judgment. And
Speaker 2: then also just like reminding myself, I don't need to
Speaker 2: judge myself for past things either.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, and like letting it be here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because I felt like that
Speaker 1: growing up, Like I had rules on not sleeping around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but my friends that have slept around on that's what
Speaker 1: I say. I'm like, Okay, you live, do you experience cool?
Speaker 1: I don't judge them for it. But I judge myself
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, it's interesting you asked me the other day.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting question. You're like, do you ever feel
Speaker 1: like you've missed out? Oh? Yeah, I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I've been asked this before, and I actually
Speaker 1: don't love that. I think because Steve fulfills all of
Speaker 1: my sexual and I'm so satisfied and so fulfilled, and
Speaker 1: I feel so connected to him, and connection is my
Speaker 1: highest value. Sleeping around when I was single and like
Speaker 1: one night stands, it never felt right in my body.
Speaker 1: I went back that night of Fishers, I went back
Speaker 1: to someone's house and I was fooling around, and when
Speaker 1: we went to have sex, I couldn't do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was so like frustrated, which is understandable, but I
Speaker 1: couldn't bring myself to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like I even tried to be that woman and
Speaker 1: to be promiscuous, yeah and do that thing, and I couldn't.
Speaker 1: So I don't feel like I've missed out. Steve and
Speaker 1: I am very open about a sexuality and just like
Speaker 1: how we are together that I don't ever feel held
Speaker 1: back or like I've missed out in anything, which is cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know like if I wanted to explore anything,
Speaker 2: I could do that. Within my relationship.
Speaker 1: I can talk to him about and sometimes even fantasies,
Speaker 1: like if I've thought about something, even talking to him
Speaker 1: about that ticks the box, Like it satisfies me enough
Speaker 1: just to even like talk about that with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that. It's like, oh, that's fun and it passes.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Yeah, you know what's funny.
Speaker 2: This is like off topic when we go back for
Speaker 2: a second. But even with the experience that I had
Speaker 2: when I was younger, the way that I justified it
Speaker 2: was like, oh, but one of them's Max boyfriend. I
Speaker 2: was like, we were dating for a year, you know,
Speaker 2: and then I was dating for like five months or something.
Speaker 2: I was like, but they were into the partners, Like
Speaker 2: it's fine, And I was the same the way that
Speaker 2: we justify I know, but it's cool though, such an
Speaker 2: interesting conversation I have it.
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