1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apogee Production. 2 00:00:10,641 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to Sheer Rises, Freaky Friday, Sex, Go Secrets, horror scandal, 3 00:00:16,881 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: mysterious wild. 4 00:00:19,281 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: Oh, this one's so interesting. I'm so excited. It's a 5 00:00:22,841 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: little bit relatable to you. 6 00:00:24,041 --> 00:00:26,961 Speaker 2: Our Freaky Friday submission, which is totally anonymous. We can't 7 00:00:26,961 --> 00:00:30,241 Speaker 2: see who actually submitted this, but here's the story. It 8 00:00:30,321 --> 00:00:32,681 Speaker 2: was twenty years ago. I was twenty two ish and 9 00:00:32,721 --> 00:00:36,001 Speaker 2: I had a FWB, which is friends with benefits guy. 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,361 Speaker 2: Let's name him Blake. I was already working with him 11 00:00:39,441 --> 00:00:41,601 Speaker 2: and I was his manager. I started to hook up 12 00:00:41,641 --> 00:00:43,641 Speaker 2: with one of his mates for a few weeks, which 13 00:00:43,721 --> 00:00:45,961 Speaker 2: was fine as Blake was just a friends with benefit 14 00:00:46,001 --> 00:00:48,561 Speaker 2: at the time. But one night we were all at 15 00:00:48,601 --> 00:00:51,481 Speaker 2: a party, a few drinks, all having a blast, and 16 00:00:51,521 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: I went home with his friend, but he was staying 17 00:00:54,241 --> 00:00:58,481 Speaker 2: at Blake's house, super awkward. Both the bedrooms only had 18 00:00:58,481 --> 00:01:00,761 Speaker 2: a door in between them, and I was fooling around 19 00:01:00,801 --> 00:01:02,761 Speaker 2: with the mate, and then I went to the bathroom. 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,481 Speaker 2: As I came back, Blake was awake and if we 21 00:01:05,481 --> 00:01:08,441 Speaker 2: could cuddle, so I jumped into bed with him and 22 00:01:08,481 --> 00:01:11,241 Speaker 2: we kissed and hands wandered, et cetera. But then I 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: felt bad, so I went back to bed with his mate, 24 00:01:14,521 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: but then I really wanted Blake, as we just connected 25 00:01:18,161 --> 00:01:21,161 Speaker 2: so much more with that sexual chemistry. So I got 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,241 Speaker 2: back up off the bed and I went and had 27 00:01:23,241 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: sex with Blake. 28 00:01:24,041 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, full two guys and one night. 29 00:01:27,041 --> 00:01:28,721 Speaker 2: Then I could hear the mate get out of bed. 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,521 Speaker 2: The door opened, so I hid under the blankets so 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,001 Speaker 2: he didn't see me at all, and he just left. 32 00:01:34,481 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: I felt physically all the next day that I even 33 00:01:36,681 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: did that, and I got shaky and nauseous and I 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: felt so bad. Definitely a one time thing. I had 35 00:01:42,081 --> 00:01:43,961 Speaker 2: fun at the time, it wasn't worth the amount of 36 00:01:43,961 --> 00:01:46,601 Speaker 2: guilt that I had afterwards, And for anyone judging, I 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,641 Speaker 2: had all the same thoughts about myself. 38 00:01:48,961 --> 00:01:51,881 Speaker 1: Oh wow, what an experience. 39 00:01:52,001 --> 00:01:55,441 Speaker 2: I know, that's wild. Isn't it so interesting? Like having 40 00:01:55,521 --> 00:01:57,841 Speaker 2: like the fear of being caught in the act? 41 00:01:57,921 --> 00:02:00,641 Speaker 1: Almost what is it like? That's the exciting part? Do 42 00:02:00,681 --> 00:02:01,561 Speaker 1: you think I like? 43 00:02:01,801 --> 00:02:03,841 Speaker 2: I mean when I had this experience, I think it 44 00:02:03,921 --> 00:02:06,561 Speaker 2: was that it was like I'm not committed to anybody 45 00:02:06,761 --> 00:02:08,041 Speaker 2: and I can do what I want, kind of like 46 00:02:08,321 --> 00:02:11,081 Speaker 2: the freedom element, the freedom element, but it's also like 47 00:02:11,401 --> 00:02:17,641 Speaker 2: the seductress version of Tiana, Like, yeah, like she wanted 48 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,401 Speaker 2: to come out and be like kind of loved. Like 49 00:02:20,481 --> 00:02:23,121 Speaker 2: when I was younger, when I had inexperience similar to this, 50 00:02:24,041 --> 00:02:27,401 Speaker 2: being like it was the novelty of it, like being 51 00:02:27,441 --> 00:02:31,041 Speaker 2: the seductress, knowing that you could seduce two men, not 52 00:02:31,121 --> 00:02:33,161 Speaker 2: at the same time, but like you know, within the 53 00:02:33,201 --> 00:02:36,441 Speaker 2: same timeframe, you know, and knowing that like you would 54 00:02:36,441 --> 00:02:39,601 Speaker 2: desired in that way, right you know. So it's almost like, oh, 55 00:02:39,641 --> 00:02:41,761 Speaker 2: but like this man wants me, but then this man 56 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,481 Speaker 2: wants me, and it's like having that variety of like, oh, 57 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,681 Speaker 2: I feel so desired. 58 00:02:46,281 --> 00:02:48,561 Speaker 1: Feeling desired is something we all craven. 59 00:02:48,281 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: Want, such a huge thing. 60 00:02:49,881 --> 00:02:53,201 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had one experience when I was younger, obviously 61 00:02:53,201 --> 00:02:55,841 Speaker 1: before I met Steve. It was at this place called Fishow's. 62 00:02:56,041 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: It was like the place to be on a Sunday night. 63 00:02:58,161 --> 00:03:00,081 Speaker 1: I remember being at one end of FI shows talking 64 00:03:00,081 --> 00:03:02,081 Speaker 1: to a guy and like getting connected with him and 65 00:03:02,121 --> 00:03:04,361 Speaker 1: having fun and floating, and then the other end of 66 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,481 Speaker 1: shows not the guy that I'm talking to, and then 67 00:03:06,481 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the night it was like I've 68 00:03:08,001 --> 00:03:10,081 Speaker 1: also never had a one night stand, so nothing happened, 69 00:03:10,081 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: but I was like, which guy, don't want to go 70 00:03:11,601 --> 00:03:13,761 Speaker 1: home with you. I get to choose the selection. They 71 00:03:13,761 --> 00:03:16,601 Speaker 1: both want me and what was exciting is eighteen year 72 00:03:16,601 --> 00:03:19,161 Speaker 1: old and it was fun. Love that. Yeah, I so 73 00:03:19,281 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: get that. 74 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,721 Speaker 2: I remember, like I would like walk into a nightclub 75 00:03:21,761 --> 00:03:24,721 Speaker 2: and like always like float with like one specific security guard. 76 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: He was like my nightclub date. He would always like 77 00:03:27,721 --> 00:03:29,521 Speaker 2: float and just have like good chemistry and stuff. But 78 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,841 Speaker 2: then if I was a man that I was seeing, 79 00:03:30,881 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: and it would be like I'd be flirting with him 80 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,321 Speaker 2: and then I'd go and you know, go and like 81 00:03:34,361 --> 00:03:35,721 Speaker 2: to see the man that I'm seeing, and I'm like. 82 00:03:35,721 --> 00:03:37,681 Speaker 1: Naught so bad. 83 00:03:37,841 --> 00:03:40,201 Speaker 2: Especially as a security guard. I could imagine from his 84 00:03:40,281 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: perspective seeing and observing everything being completely sober, everyone else 85 00:03:45,041 --> 00:03:47,561 Speaker 2: for shit, you know, and then being like, oh my god, 86 00:03:47,601 --> 00:03:48,201 Speaker 2: that's wild. 87 00:03:48,481 --> 00:03:51,201 Speaker 1: Would Tatiana now enjoy that or is it more like 88 00:03:51,241 --> 00:03:53,801 Speaker 1: a younger version of yourself, a younger version of myself? 89 00:03:53,841 --> 00:03:56,161 Speaker 2: For sure, I think my values have changed a lot now, 90 00:03:56,521 --> 00:03:58,961 Speaker 2: whereas like Tatiana can think of those things and like 91 00:03:59,041 --> 00:04:01,041 Speaker 2: I cannot judge myself for that and be like, oh cool, 92 00:04:01,041 --> 00:04:03,561 Speaker 2: they'd be kind of fun and freaky and like play 93 00:04:03,601 --> 00:04:06,561 Speaker 2: this seductre's role, but I think I don't have a 94 00:04:06,601 --> 00:04:08,921 Speaker 2: desire to be that seductress like what I did when 95 00:04:08,921 --> 00:04:11,041 Speaker 2: I was younger. When I was younger, it was fun 96 00:04:11,041 --> 00:04:12,361 Speaker 2: and playful. 97 00:04:11,881 --> 00:04:13,481 Speaker 1: And like exploring. 98 00:04:13,841 --> 00:04:15,401 Speaker 2: I got so many needs met from it, and I 99 00:04:15,441 --> 00:04:17,961 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I love this, And now I don't 100 00:04:18,001 --> 00:04:18,281 Speaker 2: do that. 101 00:04:18,361 --> 00:04:18,481 Speaker 1: Now. 102 00:04:18,521 --> 00:04:20,561 Speaker 2: I'm like, I literally can't even have sex with somebody 103 00:04:20,601 --> 00:04:23,241 Speaker 2: unless I have a connection with them, or even start 104 00:04:23,281 --> 00:04:25,521 Speaker 2: seeing somebody until I have like an emotional connection with 105 00:04:25,601 --> 00:04:28,361 Speaker 2: somebody that's really important to me. So it's like more 106 00:04:28,361 --> 00:04:30,521 Speaker 2: exclusive now, whereas like when I was younger, I was 107 00:04:30,561 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: a little bit more risky along those lines. 108 00:04:33,961 --> 00:04:35,641 Speaker 1: So much changes as you get all the hay and 109 00:04:35,721 --> 00:04:37,921 Speaker 1: every season has its purpose and you enjoy it and 110 00:04:37,921 --> 00:04:40,001 Speaker 1: there's no shame around it. But it's funny to look 111 00:04:40,001 --> 00:04:41,801 Speaker 1: back and be like, whoh, I did that, and. 112 00:04:41,721 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: Even I know and even like that story of me 113 00:04:44,761 --> 00:04:48,041 Speaker 2: doing that like that, even to talk about now feels 114 00:04:48,081 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: so like edgy because I'm like, oh fuck, I'm so 115 00:04:50,521 --> 00:04:53,681 Speaker 2: not like that now. It's so different to that now. 116 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,121 Speaker 2: But then also doing that I was fun, but then I. 117 00:04:57,081 --> 00:04:58,121 Speaker 1: Feel guilty as well. 118 00:04:58,521 --> 00:05:02,921 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like would seductress Tatiana have feel guilty 119 00:05:03,241 --> 00:05:04,121 Speaker 2: if I didn't get caught. 120 00:05:04,561 --> 00:05:07,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I got caught. And when you say Edgy 121 00:05:07,641 --> 00:05:10,121 Speaker 1: Edgiere talking about the podcast in fear of what people 122 00:05:10,161 --> 00:05:11,081 Speaker 1: will say or think. 123 00:05:10,961 --> 00:05:14,321 Speaker 2: Of you, I think it's my own maybe my own judgments. 124 00:05:14,361 --> 00:05:15,681 Speaker 1: Now, yeah that too. 125 00:05:16,521 --> 00:05:19,161 Speaker 2: People can totally make an assumption about me. But it's 126 00:05:19,201 --> 00:05:22,681 Speaker 2: like I almost have maybe judgments around that now because 127 00:05:22,721 --> 00:05:24,041 Speaker 2: I behave such a different way. 128 00:05:24,121 --> 00:05:26,041 Speaker 1: It feels like a different person. It feels like a 129 00:05:26,081 --> 00:05:28,481 Speaker 1: different version of me. Yeah, which is cool. That's a 130 00:05:28,521 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: part of evolving and growing. I feel like every single 131 00:05:31,281 --> 00:05:33,641 Speaker 1: person listening and maybe you've got judgments coming up right 132 00:05:33,681 --> 00:05:37,721 Speaker 1: now about or this person, right, yeah, which is so fine. 133 00:05:37,761 --> 00:05:40,481 Speaker 1: We all judge. But it's just like, how much have 134 00:05:40,561 --> 00:05:43,001 Speaker 1: you changed over the years. What fucked up stuff did 135 00:05:43,001 --> 00:05:46,161 Speaker 1: you when you're younger? What mistakes did you make? Everyone? 136 00:05:46,601 --> 00:05:49,841 Speaker 1: Humans are so messy and anyone on their high horse 137 00:05:49,841 --> 00:05:51,801 Speaker 1: saying I would never do that. Yeah, maybe you wouldn't 138 00:05:51,801 --> 00:05:53,001 Speaker 1: do that, but maybe you would do something that we 139 00:05:53,041 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't do. This stuff And this is what Freaky Fridays 140 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:59,281 Speaker 1: is all about. Absolutely, It's about shedding the shame, bringing 141 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,161 Speaker 1: light to it. Having some fun with it looking back 142 00:06:01,161 --> 00:06:03,961 Speaker 1: and reflecting me like, holy fuck, what was I think? Yeah, 143 00:06:04,201 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: like did that? Just have this is what it's all about. 144 00:06:06,681 --> 00:06:06,801 Speaker 1: You know. 145 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,841 Speaker 2: It's cool as well, Like when I read this submission, 146 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,481 Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, yeah, girl, I'm like, you live your life, 147 00:06:11,601 --> 00:06:12,721 Speaker 2: like experience those things. 148 00:06:12,721 --> 00:06:13,561 Speaker 1: Get it out of your system. 149 00:06:13,601 --> 00:06:15,281 Speaker 2: If you need to do those things, like, yeah, have 150 00:06:15,401 --> 00:06:16,121 Speaker 2: at it, you know. 151 00:06:16,201 --> 00:06:17,521 Speaker 1: But then when it's. 152 00:06:17,401 --> 00:06:19,601 Speaker 2: Yourself, which is so true, it's such a. 153 00:06:19,561 --> 00:06:21,001 Speaker 1: Cool this is happening in the moment. 154 00:06:21,201 --> 00:06:23,121 Speaker 2: We have these judgments on ourselves, but then when we 155 00:06:23,161 --> 00:06:25,681 Speaker 2: see other people do it, we almost sometimes have more compassion. 156 00:06:25,841 --> 00:06:27,161 Speaker 1: Yeah, i'mlebrate it more. 157 00:06:27,201 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, go fucking get a girl, Like that's so fine. 158 00:06:29,681 --> 00:06:32,121 Speaker 2: I see you in that and there's no judgment. And 159 00:06:32,161 --> 00:06:34,081 Speaker 2: then also just like reminding myself, I don't need to 160 00:06:34,161 --> 00:06:35,561 Speaker 2: judge myself for past things either. 161 00:06:35,761 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, and like letting it be here. Yeah, 162 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,361 Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because I felt like that 163 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: growing up, Like I had rules on not sleeping around. Yeah, 164 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,721 Speaker 1: but my friends that have slept around on that's what 165 00:06:46,801 --> 00:06:49,841 Speaker 1: I say. I'm like, Okay, you live, do you experience cool? 166 00:06:50,081 --> 00:06:52,081 Speaker 1: I don't judge them for it. But I judge myself 167 00:06:52,081 --> 00:06:54,441 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, it's interesting you asked me the other day. 168 00:06:54,561 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: It's an interesting question. You're like, do you ever feel 169 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,001 Speaker 1: like you've missed out? Oh? Yeah, I was like, you 170 00:06:59,041 --> 00:07:01,201 Speaker 1: know what, I've been asked this before, and I actually 171 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,401 Speaker 1: don't love that. I think because Steve fulfills all of 172 00:07:04,401 --> 00:07:08,041 Speaker 1: my sexual and I'm so satisfied and so fulfilled, and 173 00:07:08,081 --> 00:07:10,001 Speaker 1: I feel so connected to him, and connection is my 174 00:07:10,121 --> 00:07:13,881 Speaker 1: highest value. Sleeping around when I was single and like 175 00:07:13,921 --> 00:07:16,521 Speaker 1: one night stands, it never felt right in my body. 176 00:07:16,801 --> 00:07:18,961 Speaker 1: I went back that night of Fishers, I went back 177 00:07:19,001 --> 00:07:21,401 Speaker 1: to someone's house and I was fooling around, and when 178 00:07:21,401 --> 00:07:23,841 Speaker 1: we went to have sex, I couldn't do it. Yeah. 179 00:07:23,881 --> 00:07:27,481 Speaker 1: He was so like frustrated, which is understandable, but I 180 00:07:27,521 --> 00:07:28,761 Speaker 1: couldn't bring myself to do it. 181 00:07:28,841 --> 00:07:29,161 Speaker 2: Yeah. 182 00:07:29,201 --> 00:07:31,281 Speaker 1: So like I even tried to be that woman and 183 00:07:31,321 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: to be promiscuous, yeah and do that thing, and I couldn't. 184 00:07:34,321 --> 00:07:36,481 Speaker 1: So I don't feel like I've missed out. Steve and 185 00:07:36,481 --> 00:07:39,081 Speaker 1: I am very open about a sexuality and just like 186 00:07:39,801 --> 00:07:42,241 Speaker 1: how we are together that I don't ever feel held 187 00:07:42,241 --> 00:07:44,761 Speaker 1: back or like I've missed out in anything, which is cool. 188 00:07:44,921 --> 00:07:47,561 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know like if I wanted to explore anything, 189 00:07:47,601 --> 00:07:48,961 Speaker 2: I could do that. Within my relationship. 190 00:07:49,001 --> 00:07:51,401 Speaker 1: I can talk to him about and sometimes even fantasies, 191 00:07:51,401 --> 00:07:53,561 Speaker 1: like if I've thought about something, even talking to him 192 00:07:53,561 --> 00:07:55,881 Speaker 1: about that ticks the box, Like it satisfies me enough 193 00:07:55,921 --> 00:07:58,121 Speaker 1: just to even like talk about that with him. Yeah, 194 00:07:58,161 --> 00:08:01,241 Speaker 1: you know that. It's like, oh, that's fun and it passes. 195 00:08:01,401 --> 00:08:03,441 Speaker 1: That's so cool. Yeah, you know what's funny. 196 00:08:03,521 --> 00:08:05,161 Speaker 2: This is like off topic when we go back for 197 00:08:05,201 --> 00:08:07,601 Speaker 2: a second. But even with the experience that I had 198 00:08:08,001 --> 00:08:10,481 Speaker 2: when I was younger, the way that I justified it 199 00:08:10,521 --> 00:08:14,401 Speaker 2: was like, oh, but one of them's Max boyfriend. I 200 00:08:14,441 --> 00:08:16,161 Speaker 2: was like, we were dating for a year, you know, 201 00:08:16,201 --> 00:08:18,761 Speaker 2: and then I was dating for like five months or something. 202 00:08:18,961 --> 00:08:21,121 Speaker 2: I was like, but they were into the partners, Like 203 00:08:21,201 --> 00:08:24,241 Speaker 2: it's fine, And I was the same the way that 204 00:08:24,281 --> 00:08:26,801 Speaker 2: we justify I know, but it's cool though, such an 205 00:08:26,801 --> 00:08:28,241 Speaker 2: interesting conversation I have it. 206 00:08:28,761 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: It's fun. Well, we hope you guys enjoyed this little sexy, 207 00:08:31,881 --> 00:08:34,761 Speaker 1: saucy one. Don't forget if you want to submit any 208 00:08:34,801 --> 00:08:41,041 Speaker 1: of your stories, whether they're horrific, terrifying, exciting, sexual, fun, scandalous, 209 00:08:41,721 --> 00:08:43,641 Speaker 1: write it in and give us as much details as 210 00:08:43,641 --> 00:08:46,841 Speaker 1: you possibly, the more, the better, the juice of the better. Yes, 211 00:08:47,601 --> 00:08:49,761 Speaker 1: and we will see you guys next Monday. All right, 212 00:08:49,761 --> 00:08:50,361 Speaker 1: bye bye