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Speaker 1: Lady unfiltered.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, welcome to add Lady Unfiltered. I am Haley
Speaker 2: and I am Lauren, and we are besties. We're business
Speaker 2: partners where the creators of ad Lady. Hello, I say,
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Speaker 2: and look at us today. We are profresh meals. Do
Speaker 2: you know what? I was just thing?
Speaker 1: So we've got these brand new mic socks. But they
Speaker 1: kind of smell a bit funny thoughts. I thought it
Speaker 1: was my.
Speaker 2: Breast, but probably is your breath. But they smell cheap
Speaker 2: and they were really expensive. Can I just say, these
Speaker 2: little mic socks, these are the things that go on
Speaker 2: our mics. I would have thought that you could get
Speaker 2: them on machine or team move for like twelve cents.
Speaker 2: These were like four hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Like what the hell?
Speaker 2: Who proved that few hundred dollars? What a waste of money?
Speaker 2: No wonder we're going under.
Speaker 1: So this is our final podcast because we've spent our
Speaker 1: life saving the mic socks to be great backstory, we
Speaker 1: have wasted a bit of money in our time with
Speaker 1: our business, haven't we remember that time we spent flat
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars on giant signage to put into fringe,
Speaker 1: and we found out that we weren't allowed to put
Speaker 1: our signs in fringe and they were too big to
Speaker 1: go anywhere. And I feel like quite a lot of
Speaker 1: the mistakes and me not like looking at the fine print,
Speaker 1: and we go always Pierson, I've ordered these giant signs
Speaker 1: to go here. Or when we made our first one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars sale and then we went to Harbortown and
Speaker 1: mimcom and spent four hundred dollars on shoe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what did we decided to go into business? No,
Speaker 2: but we do have a general manager now, by the way,
Speaker 2: which also makes us legit, and she keeps us on track.
Speaker 1: Oh. I hate it when she's like, what's this expense
Speaker 1: in hair and makeup? I'm like, look, you go through
Speaker 1: our financials with a fine tooth comb, but not that fine, because.
Speaker 2: You know what sucks. You would think, because we're in
Speaker 2: the t the industry of TV, right that we could
Speaker 2: claim things like mic socks, clothes, makeup and stuff. Turns out,
Speaker 2: if you want to claim clothes, you have to put
Speaker 2: your logo on the clothes.
Speaker 1: That's why I've got a parnivle on this top right now.
Speaker 2: So gross.
Speaker 1: Have you actually seen those things on Instagram? They're very funny,
Speaker 1: like me telling the tax man that I needed this
Speaker 1: tennis bracelet to work. She's like, got the tennis bracelet
Speaker 1: with a ruler drawing, go, oh my goodness, with my
Speaker 1: tennis bracelet. That's kind of what we need to do.
Speaker 1: So you put your designer bags on the table and
Speaker 1: it's like you're typing and musing. We've got to be
Speaker 1: better at like, you know, like the silly influencers they
Speaker 1: put their bags in shots.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been ordered?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Have you? Yeah? I was ordered? How hairy is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I also know you were the like cleanest
Speaker 1: you or your husband your squeaky clean.
Speaker 2: No, my husband's squeaky clean. I'm I'm the dodgy one.
Speaker 1: I've made you more dodgy.
Speaker 2: In fact, yesterday I was delivering art to someone that
Speaker 2: had bought one of my paintings and they were so beautiful.
Speaker 2: He's a cop, but I didn't know that, and I
Speaker 2: was telling him about how you should be my eye
Speaker 2: as an expense. It's a policeman. I'm like I mean,
Speaker 2: you know you do.
Speaker 1: You you forgot you were talking to You're also like
Speaker 1: drinking a bowl of champagne with a stroke. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna drive home now.
Speaker 2: Say that's a joke.
Speaker 1: By the way, that was a joke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, But what of some people, you know,
Speaker 2: we have some negative nancies and are going why would
Speaker 2: you do that?
Speaker 1: Like when I sit at a table with a glass
Speaker 1: of wine in front of me pregnant. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: drinking the wine.
Speaker 2: We're not actually drinking on the show.
Speaker 1: It's actually funny. We don't drink on the shoulder because
Speaker 1: what people don't realize is some days, our filming days
Speaker 1: are twelve hours.
Speaker 2: So if I'm.
Speaker 1: Drinking at nine am, can you imagine filming at nine pm.
Speaker 2: But also we're also working. It's work. Drink while you're working.
Speaker 1: Except for that one time in the Riverland we were
Speaker 1: doing a gin flight. This is when we first and
Speaker 1: I was like shotting and then putting it back straight away,
Speaker 1: so it was touching my lips but not going into
Speaker 1: my mouth, and you, the non drinker of the two,
Speaker 1: was like, whoa.
Speaker 2: I was necking it and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: I got so pissed you remember, I was, but so
Speaker 2: pissed that I was laughing so much that I had
Speaker 2: my makeup running down my face and our producer High
Speaker 2: Adam got really angry at me wasting time.
Speaker 1: You're like, I need to go put my makeup on,
Speaker 1: and You're like, how are you so sober? Because I
Speaker 1: didn't drink it?
Speaker 2: I thought you were drinking it. I didn't. I was
Speaker 2: a rookie.
Speaker 1: We've learnt since those days.
Speaker 2: Anyway, shopping list of the show today, my friends, uh.
Speaker 1: So member of the Week, and then I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk about Nona Maxing non Maxing.
Speaker 2: You such a Nona already. I was thinking about that before.
Speaker 2: You were sitting at the chair and you were in
Speaker 2: this skirt that's kind of like halfway through carbs, and
Speaker 2: your legs were so fast spread. I was like, it
Speaker 2: looks like you're a nonna, like peeling potatoes.
Speaker 1: I know, because my belly now it's okay, this like
Speaker 1: I'm over, like I've literally got four weeks to go.
Speaker 2: I have four weeks and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, nothing's kind of fitting, nothing's working, and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there like a non full leg spread so my
Speaker 1: belly can really hangling over tangling.
Speaker 2: You have to lift it up to see if any
Speaker 2: So we're going to get to that. And then also
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Michael Jackson. I saw Michael
Speaker 2: the movie on the weekend, and yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 2: deep dive into that because that was un believable.
Speaker 1: One of us is a giant Michael fan. Oh no, no,
Speaker 1: convince me, like, convince me, tell me about it and
Speaker 1: stuff like I'll listen.
Speaker 2: But you don't like Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: I'm just not really a massive fan. You and Burjo
Speaker 1: are massive fans, like real to the core. Like I
Speaker 1: hop into Burjo's car and he's listening to I know.
Speaker 2: But why Burjo and I are not together? It's really weird.
Speaker 2: I'll be with Jimmy.
Speaker 1: It's fine, all right.
Speaker 2: We've tickets. Feel those rumors the yes.
Speaker 1: So Sophia, my little girl, has just turned five. It's
Speaker 1: really exciting. And she's starting her school visits. So she's
Speaker 1: starting reception mid year in July, and I had to
Speaker 1: take her to her first school visit and you went
Speaker 1: around you were yet setting away.
Speaker 2: I was in Melbourne at the block.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were off filming and then Burgo, Sophie's
Speaker 1: dad he was also working.
Speaker 2: Weird if I was there and Burgo wasn't there, Well.
Speaker 1: I just one of you should be there, so you're
Speaker 1: by yourself. He can't get time off. You know, we're
Speaker 1: very flexible. We were at Flexi hours.
Speaker 2: We're flying fly out boat.
Speaker 1: So I was like so strong, and I drove her
Speaker 1: there and I walked her in. I took her into
Speaker 1: the classroom and she was just she was holding my
Speaker 1: hands so tight, her little hand in my hand, and
Speaker 1: we were like watching all the school kids play and
Speaker 1: I was like, that's going to be you and we're
Speaker 1: going to get you a uniform and it's so exciting.
Speaker 1: And she was just like kind of like a deer
Speaker 1: in headlights, like watching everyone. And then we went into
Speaker 1: the classroom and she found a friend, so randomly, a
Speaker 1: little girl who she went to childcare with was there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's like sunny.
Speaker 1: I know that girl. I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: this is great. So they just kind of ran off
Speaker 1: and started playing with puppets and dolls and babies and everything.
Speaker 2: Sophia love you need is one friend.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I guess I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Don't cry, I'm leaving she's nowhere insight.
Speaker 2: She wasn't She's gone.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, mum's going.
Speaker 2: I love you, Sophia.
Speaker 1: Sure I walk out. I'm standing there at the glass
Speaker 1: like there was another mom, and I like, I'm just
Speaker 1: standing there watching her interact and she's laughing and playing,
Speaker 1: and I just started to like, you know, I'm already
Speaker 1: emotional at the moment, you know me. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: here with emotions. And I started feeling like I was
Speaker 1: about to embarrass myself. So like I walked out the
Speaker 1: front and I placed my head inside a hedge and
Speaker 1: I just started bowling, like in a bush. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a bush so no one could see me. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm invisible, like.
Speaker 2: Homer Simpson because they stand out at all, the woman
Speaker 2: in the bush, the woman in the bush.
Speaker 1: And I just because I didn't want anyone to see me,
Speaker 1: like yeah, doing that cry because I just felt so
Speaker 1: overwhelmed and like everything kind of flooded back. Did you
Speaker 1: have that? Like it was like she was a baby
Speaker 1: and I was holding her and I was feeding her
Speaker 1: and she couldn't talk, and then suddenly she's like, by Mom,
Speaker 1: love you, and all this emotion just rushed me.
Speaker 2: One of those first big milestones. Yes, yeah, and then
Speaker 2: you get the last day. The next big one is
Speaker 2: the last day of primary school. That is gut ranching,
Speaker 2: when they graduate and they say goodbye to all their
Speaker 2: primary school friends. It's so hard. Then first day of
Speaker 2: high school, and then the next one will be final
Speaker 2: day of year twelve. Like I'm not even that's far
Speaker 2: from me, but I'm I won't cope, but you won't cope.
Speaker 2: It's these little.
Speaker 1: Life moments just like they're just going away. So clearly
Speaker 1: she still needs me to like eat and stuff. Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not completely still She's fine, yeah, but
Speaker 1: she can like get herself dressed and do all those things.
Speaker 1: But it's just like that first little bit and this
Speaker 1: mom because I'm like, I'm clearly invisible because I'm in
Speaker 1: a bush wearing my bright outfit.
Speaker 2: She's like, you're okay.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just on the phone. I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: calling my friend talk about actually I recorded a video.
Speaker 1: I was gonna have said it to you, but then
Speaker 1: I was like, it's actually too embarrassing to send, so
Speaker 1: I never said it showed me.
Speaker 2: Was it embarrassing? I look like a psychopath. Did you
Speaker 2: feel yourself crying?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just so I can send it to you, because
Speaker 1: you know how we go through life moments, we send
Speaker 1: each other like.
Speaker 2: It to me, because play it.
Speaker 1: I just dropped Sophia to her first orientation date for Perception.
Speaker 1: She's fine, but I'm not.
Speaker 3: She's five next week, nose. They made you your mom.
Speaker 1: I went into the full life story. It's like a
Speaker 1: minute and now she's going up.
Speaker 2: Oh why is this so hard? Because she's so fine
Speaker 2: and happy living her best lot.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to creep and watch her through the window. Shit. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say to you, and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I look like a psycho. But the one thing I
Speaker 1: actually just realized from that video is I should probably
Speaker 1: get some botox at some point because my eyes really.
Speaker 2: Moved so cute your little set when you cry, you
Speaker 2: pat your face, yes, and your eyebrows go full up,
Speaker 2: full up.
Speaker 1: And then all my lines were just.
Speaker 2: It is it's sad. But then you've done that now, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you've got through that day. How was she?
Speaker 1: She came out and I was like, Sophia, how was it?
Speaker 1: She was mum?
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 1: Oh that is the and that was it, and then
Speaker 1: we called her dad and we sat in the car
Speaker 1: and we drove home and she was telling us both
Speaker 1: so we're both part of it everything. I mean, both
Speaker 1: parents can't be physically at everything, you know how much
Speaker 1: you try, like you and Jimmy do such a great job,
Speaker 1: but you do actually have to split up, yeah, with
Speaker 1: one kid to go somewhere, and you try and do
Speaker 1: everything and you just can't sometimes. So he was really
Speaker 1: sad he missed that, but he could.
Speaker 2: Be there next time. Yeah, Also can I say I would?
Speaker 2: And he's in radio, and I know it's hard to
Speaker 2: say you need to have that time off, but I
Speaker 2: think the first day of school is something that nobody
Speaker 2: should miss. And I know this was non orientation, so
Speaker 2: it's not like official first day, no no, so, but
Speaker 2: I remember I was in Brecky Radio when Austin had
Speaker 2: his very first day of school and when I signed
Speaker 2: up before like he was four or three, and I said,
Speaker 2: just letting you know, I know it's ages away, but
Speaker 2: I need to have that day off. I'm not missing
Speaker 2: that day and they let me, and they let me
Speaker 2: have the day off. So I think it's something that's
Speaker 2: like just say to your workplace, I'm sorry, I'm not
Speaker 2: coming to work that morning or I'm starting later or whatever.
Speaker 2: Don't miss it just because of work.
Speaker 1: No, I regret that, because jobs come go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so special, like you'll always remember holding
Speaker 2: their little hand in your hand and feeling that little
Speaker 2: like sweaty palm in your hand because they're nervous and
Speaker 2: then they let go.
Speaker 1: Oh so you know that I'm missing Sophia's thirst day.
Speaker 2: No, No, you're gonna make it happen. We'll make it happen.
Speaker 2: You can. I'll be in the hospital.
Speaker 1: I'm literally going to be having a bailey you out.
Speaker 2: You can't miss her first.
Speaker 1: Imagine imagine me embarrassing Sophia with the hospital game where
Speaker 1: your bums outs just dragging on the ground, literally just
Speaker 1: dragging a baby in a placenta.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, by Tavia, at least you've done the orientation,
Speaker 2: like that's you've experienced that, you know what it's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, imagine a mum missing the first
Speaker 1: day of school.
Speaker 2: But also, this is your first child. You've got another one.
Speaker 2: You don't have to go through this for another five years.
Speaker 2: How weird is that you've got another baby.
Speaker 1: That is a big gap.
Speaker 2: What is It's great?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope I haven't forgotten what to do.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's your member of the week that you're going
Speaker 2: for full emotions. Yep, I know. I talk a lot
Speaker 2: about death on this show.
Speaker 1: All right, Morbid Pearson.
Speaker 2: Last week it was Tuesday, the twenty sixth of May.
Speaker 2: So a couple of weeks ago, I was one hundred
Speaker 2: percent sure that I was that I had a varying cancer.
Speaker 2: That's I don't I'm just gonna put it out there.
Speaker 2: I don't have it, but I was so sure I
Speaker 2: got to work. I said to you, Lauren, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you something. I think something's happening, because it's not right.
Speaker 2: I've got all these problems with my tummy. I've had
Speaker 2: colon oskby, I've had other tests. Everything's clear, there's something
Speaker 2: going on. And I put it into chat GPT, and
Speaker 2: chat GPT said, oh, it's probably not, but these are
Speaker 2: the symptoms for a varian cancer. So and I'll tell
Speaker 2: you why my brain went here, because years ago I
Speaker 2: had a psychic say to me, something will happen in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, some big thing. I can't remember if
Speaker 2: it was good or bad. I just remember twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: and this is like twenty years ago, and it's twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six now, right, So I guess I'm waiting for
Speaker 2: something to happen. And then I spoke to John Edward
Speaker 2: last year, the famous John Edward, who said I'm going
Speaker 2: to read you and he looked at me and he said, oh,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, there's big, big changes. And he saw
Speaker 2: my face drop and he said, don't worry. It's an adventure.
Speaker 2: You'll get through it. And so I've also gone, okay,
Speaker 2: so this is the year that's something bad.
Speaker 1: It's going to know that. He said that, Yeah, on
Speaker 1: the phone, radio.
Speaker 2: I was on the phone or I was in person.
Speaker 2: I can't remember. Yeah, radio with Virgo, Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of been in the back of my mind, right,
Speaker 2: And I always have these weird things when someone it
Speaker 2: sticks twenty twenty six, it's the twenty sixth of May.
Speaker 2: This is going to happen. This is the time that
Speaker 2: I'm going to find out something awful. Anyway, I got
Speaker 2: to work and you said to me, don't wait, don't
Speaker 2: have your appointment next week. All now, and make it
Speaker 2: happen now, because you always put yourself last. Right. If
Speaker 2: that was my husband, i'd be like, book it.
Speaker 1: Now, or if it's your kids, book it now straight away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But when it's you, you can't just like push
Speaker 2: push it away and also think maybe it's better. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. I can't deal with other stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, emotionally I'm up to here. I've got nothing else
Speaker 1: I can take.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and ignorance is bliss. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Did you like how ps I was positive because you've
Speaker 1: told me I'm negative and I'm the worst person to
Speaker 1: tell anything in a crisis. Did you like how I've changed.
Speaker 2: You weren't positive? You you were negative, and that you
Speaker 2: need to get changed because you are dying. That's how
Speaker 2: I took that.
Speaker 1: No, I literally in my brain, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: And I thought I told you.
Speaker 1: I thought I was positive.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought, yeah, I don't I can't remember.
Speaker 2: It was all a hayes, But thank you for pushing me,
Speaker 2: and I did. I called. I called them straight away.
Speaker 2: I got in had the scan, and you know, when
Speaker 2: you have a scan, you're like, they're not supposed to
Speaker 2: say anything. You can't see the computer you look. You
Speaker 2: don't even know what f you're seeing anyway, because it
Speaker 2: all looks white black. And I was really lovely to her,
Speaker 2: hoping that like I'll be her friend and she'll tell
Speaker 2: me something, she'll break it cold for me. And then
Speaker 2: she did the internal like full like put the condom
Speaker 2: on the thing, and the oh, it's just so so
Speaker 2: if I could feel down there, I'd feel there out
Speaker 2: of sympathy.
Speaker 1: But I don't even know where it is anymore. You
Speaker 1: don't have one any where is my vagina? Know, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about three to six months.
Speaker 2: It comes back. So they did the internal and then
Speaker 2: she actually did say to me, oh, no, everything looks perfect,
Speaker 2: like I don't see anything here.
Speaker 1: Thank god.
Speaker 2: I was like, thank you so much, like that whole
Speaker 2: weight just lifted off my shoulders and then I drove
Speaker 2: home happy, going I don't have that, but in my head,
Speaker 2: you know how, you you know how? I don't know
Speaker 2: if your brain plays tricks on you. You actually google
Speaker 2: something and then you believe that you have what.
Speaker 1: This is why we need to stop googling stuff. And
Speaker 1: also psychics aren't supposed to tell you bad stuff.
Speaker 2: I know, and they didn't say it was bad. They
Speaker 2: just said twenty twenty six something big. And so I've
Speaker 2: always thought, is it, Mum and Dad? Is it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: So you might win the lottery?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: But then then I spoke to my other friend about her,
Speaker 2: and she's like, no, that makes sense. Last year when
Speaker 2: I spoke to John Edward, I was still in radio
Speaker 2: and I was earning more money because I had another job,
Speaker 2: and she goes, that was the thing. It's an adventure.
Speaker 2: It did change. You did lose your job, and twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six is a different year for you. So maybe
Speaker 2: that's what it was. Oh, thank god, you lost your job.
Speaker 1: Best year of my life, best year of my life.
Speaker 1: I pretended to be sad for you, but I was
Speaker 1: really happy.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I was happy too. It was the
Speaker 2: best thing.
Speaker 1: I called Jimmy and I well, I was so sorry
Speaker 1: as we like pop bottles of RVE.
Speaker 2: You made it happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told them all this bad stuff you've been doing,
Speaker 1: stiphening money and shit.
Speaker 2: Nah it was. It was actually the best thing that
Speaker 2: ever happened. I love my life now. God anyway, So
Speaker 2: there are mems of the week we've been talking for
Speaker 2: so long. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1: God, Sorry, We've got to get.
Speaker 2: To Nana's and Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: All right, gonna all right, Nona Maxine, have you heard
Speaker 1: of it? No, I'm pretty sure your bestie Chrissy Swan
Speaker 1: is doing it.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: It is non A Maxine.
Speaker 2: She's not Italian.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be Italian to do it. It's
Speaker 1: basically it's the internet's new obsession, where like people like
Speaker 1: you and I are going stuff it. I just want
Speaker 1: to be like a Nona because Nona's are happy. They're
Speaker 1: so happy. They just they make their own food, they
Speaker 1: make their own bread, they make their own pasta, they
Speaker 1: put on their little floral aprons, and there's life. And
Speaker 1: I just like, I was reading all this stuff on
Speaker 1: Instagram about it, and I went, oh, my gosh, this
Speaker 1: is what I meant to be a Nona.
Speaker 2: Nonas are happy and they happy. They're a little bit
Speaker 2: chubby as well, and they're happy with that. They feed you.
Speaker 1: And guess what, Nona never counts a calorie. She lives
Speaker 1: by this, Like do you reckon Nona's going to extra
Speaker 1: protein yogurt or protein bars or like any of this crap. No,
Speaker 1: because she's making everything from scratch.
Speaker 2: She eats pasta, she makes the bechamel sauce from scratch.
Speaker 1: Yes, but like even like the European diet itself is
Speaker 1: naturally healthy. She's not eating anything processed, anything fake. She's
Speaker 1: eating her sardines and her eggs and her pasta. All
Speaker 1: of our gut issues that we have I think comes
Speaker 1: from all the crap wheat, even the bread like bread.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but surely non in Italy wouldn't have irritable bow syndrome.
Speaker 2: But Nona here, the past is different and you do
Speaker 2: feel full and bloated.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like I remember my Nona in her house, her
Speaker 1: spare room was the pastor room, and she.
Speaker 2: Had really are Italian.
Speaker 1: You think I'm lying, look at it.
Speaker 2: She had a bedroom full of pasta. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: tell me about TheRoom you would have loved.
Speaker 1: So it was on bulletin road. Go into her bare
Speaker 1: room and this is where she'd keep all the treats,
Speaker 1: the panatonies, the boxes of roses, the chocolates in case
Speaker 1: someone come over, roses. And she'd had this whole dining
Speaker 1: room table where every day she would be able to
Speaker 1: pick her past because she'd made the feta chini, the penne,
Speaker 1: and it was all lined up, so this table was
Speaker 1: covered in plastic like a lot of love her and
Speaker 1: then it was all lined up the raviolis and non
Speaker 1: Nat used to make something different. She used to put
Speaker 1: dark chocolate in ravioli and then make like a dessert.
Speaker 2: She just popped up on my Instagram.
Speaker 1: Not many people do it. She'd make like a cream
Speaker 1: hazel nut sauce on dark chocolate pasta, probably a creamy
Speaker 1: hazelnut sauce, so it's like a dessert pasta. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's weight watches.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I've seen I've seen them put like dark
Speaker 2: chocolate in a bolin a sauce. Really. Yeah, that's just
Speaker 2: popped up on my Instagram.
Speaker 1: That's wild.
Speaker 2: Why is there a foul bug in your house?
Speaker 1: Because I haven't keeps like bite, Well, the bug wasn't
Speaker 1: here before you got I'm just saying it followed jets.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know what Lauren's doing with their hands right now anyway,
Speaker 1: So nonomaxing, I just feel like you and I could
Speaker 1: be better at doing this. But then I was also thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we don't have time to run a business,
Speaker 1: be a mom, to be a partner, be a daughter,
Speaker 1: make pasta, make pasta. How did they do it all?
Speaker 2: Because it didn't work?
Speaker 1: That was simple, Yeah, it was true.
Speaker 2: That's that's what they did. Their work was to provide
Speaker 2: food for the family. And I love that about Italians
Speaker 2: and Greeks is that food is something that brings family together.
Speaker 2: It brings so much happiness. And so it makes me
Speaker 2: sad when I hear that Italians are on diets or
Speaker 2: trying to do the weight loss stuff, because I'm like,
Speaker 2: but you're taking away the one thing that you love.
Speaker 1: And the whole thing I guess with nonomaxing is you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to if you're eating the right food. My
Speaker 1: nona was never big and she ate pasta, probably for
Speaker 1: luncheon in her whole life. So I hate that, like
Speaker 1: our culture has now gone down this line of no carbs,
Speaker 1: which also cuts out fiber and all these good things.
Speaker 1: For us. It's if you're eating really good quality, eat
Speaker 1: the rainbow type stuff, yeah, you shouldn't be cutting this
Speaker 1: stuff out.
Speaker 2: So but nonomaxing is not just about food, is it. No,
Speaker 2: It's also about like just enjoying the simple pleasures like
Speaker 2: going for walks, knitting, putting your phone away, things like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not nonomaxing now. It's a viral anti hustle lifestyle
Speaker 1: trend inspired by Italian grandmothers. It rejects hyper optimized, screen
Speaker 1: heavy and productivity obsessed culture in favor of slow cooking,
Speaker 1: from scratch, just hanging out. I love slows your brain in.
Speaker 1: My brain is so amped, that's why I paint. I
Speaker 1: don't think we could be nonomaxing. I reckon painting could
Speaker 1: be like.
Speaker 2: A painting is. I did it yesterday and it was
Speaker 2: raining outside. I had a coffee and I can't tell
Speaker 2: you how happy I was. Yeah, my phone's only there.
Speaker 2: If I want to film some of my painting, I
Speaker 2: don't look at it. It's on silent and I just
Speaker 2: in my world of painting. It's I guess that's why
Speaker 2: people knit. It's using it the creative side of your
Speaker 2: brain to really just switch off. So any time my
Speaker 2: brain is quiet.
Speaker 1: And I think these days a lot of those hobbies
Speaker 1: are coming back, aren't they. Painting, knitting, tapestry, baking from scratch.
Speaker 1: Like I was with two of my best friends on
Speaker 1: the weekend and they're both making their own butter, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what, Yeah, apparently just churn cream.
Speaker 2: They make their own butter. I make love this so
Speaker 2: one of the girls that I work this is a sidebar.
Speaker 2: There's so many preservatives in food that she was saying
Speaker 2: that she grates her own cheese with a Therma mix,
Speaker 2: because if you buy grated cheese, it has so many
Speaker 2: more preservatives and just a normal block of cheese.
Speaker 1: If you actually look at the back, of course, go
Speaker 1: look at a block of cheese, and then you go
Speaker 1: look at the grated cheese, there's a lot more stuff
Speaker 1: in it. Friend as well, she's bought a Thermo mix.
Speaker 1: She's like obsessed. She's like, I never thought I'd be
Speaker 1: one of those people. But anyways, on the weekend, I
Speaker 1: had my Thermo mix out. I was like churning my
Speaker 1: own butter, and then I grated my own cheese, and
Speaker 1: then I was making my own pizza dough. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just want to be that, but I don't know
Speaker 1: whether my brain can get there.
Speaker 2: I think if you learned it and you and you
Speaker 2: practiced it, then you would actually do it and you'd
Speaker 2: be obsessed with it. It's already we buy things because
Speaker 2: it's a fad and then it sits in our carbon
Speaker 2: and we don't use it right. Yes, but you need
Speaker 2: to actually use it and then you'll be obsessed with it.
Speaker 2: And also I feel like now with all this knowledge
Speaker 2: that we're having about eating and like bow cancer is
Speaker 2: such a big thing now for our age. And they're
Speaker 2: saying we grew up nineties kids grew up with so
Speaker 2: much plastic. Like I remember putting it pasta in the
Speaker 2: microwave after like leftovers, covering it with blad rap and
Speaker 2: it would melt into the pasta. I would lift it
Speaker 2: up and I would eat it. Whereas we know now
Speaker 2: what the foods that we should be eating and less
Speaker 2: processed food, and like going back to basics and making
Speaker 2: things scratch rather than make buying like jars of it
Speaker 2: is so much better for your gup.
Speaker 1: So in turn, are you and I both going to
Speaker 1: become honors?
Speaker 2: I would love to be an honor. I can't wait
Speaker 2: for the moment of being a honor and being like
Speaker 2: a chubby nonna too, Like I feel like nobody likes
Speaker 2: a skinny grandma. No, I wouldn't trust their food never.
Speaker 2: I need to get to a point where I'm okay
Speaker 2: just to just to start letting myself go.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm there, I would say two years ago. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: let me think of the point.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, if we all did it, nobody would
Speaker 2: be like, we'd all be chubbing and it would be okay.
Speaker 2: So why don't we all make a pact that at
Speaker 2: forty five? That's me next year, I'm still going to
Speaker 2: hit my prime.
Speaker 1: You still want to look like the Nanny and nothing? Mom,
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, I love it.
Speaker 2: Not I'm acting well, I'm.
Speaker 1: Done, all right, call me on and from here on in,
Speaker 1: when I buy loud cattle and I make my own buttery,
Speaker 1: you can come visit me.
Speaker 2: Is that why there's a cow in the front yard?
Speaker 1: Gary, it's Bessy, Bessie and Glenelk.
Speaker 2: All right. I've got a lot of emotion building up
Speaker 2: inside of me right now because I saw a movie
Speaker 2: on the weekend and I left just like wanting to
Speaker 2: tell the world about it, the Michael Jackson movie. Don't
Speaker 2: you roll your eyes at me?
Speaker 1: Sorry, I was just checking my eyes, checking my brain.
Speaker 2: Oh it makes me so sad. And how can you
Speaker 2: not love Michael Jackson? I don't know. He is the
Speaker 2: greatest performer that ever lived and will ever live. I
Speaker 2: believe lyrically, performatively, musically, he is. He was a genius.
Speaker 1: Did you say ever lived or is he still alive?
Speaker 1: We've seen that conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he died.
Speaker 1: He was on a bus in Brazil.
Speaker 2: No, let's stop with the conspiracy theorist. Okay, he wasn't
Speaker 2: on a bus in Brazil. That was just a man
Speaker 2: that looked like Michael accent, a little bit too much
Speaker 2: plastic surgery. Okay, this is what I want to talk about.
Speaker 2: You didn't know me in my era of loving Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: It was my era of I guess your formative years
Speaker 2: when you're growing up and music is everything, and you
Speaker 2: hear those songs now and it takes you back to
Speaker 2: how you felt when you were fifteen, sixteen, seventeen listening
Speaker 2: to that music because and quite often you didn't talk
Speaker 2: about it to anyone. You know, Mom and dad might
Speaker 2: not have even known that I loved him so much.
Speaker 2: His History album was everything to me. I went and
Speaker 2: saw him live at Adelaide Oval and it was did
Speaker 2: you yes? Yes, I was one of those girls that
Speaker 2: was screaming, like you see those videos of women watching
Speaker 2: the Beatles. It was amazing. And I saw him afterwards
Speaker 2: getting in his limo. I would have been fifteen meters
Speaker 2: away from him. He waved to everybody and then got
Speaker 2: in his limo and drove off. It was incredible. So
Speaker 2: I was in an era of I loved him so
Speaker 2: much and his music and the words to his songs.
Speaker 2: You know, you hear music now and you just sing.
Speaker 2: You don't even care about this, You don't even know
Speaker 2: what you're singing about. He sung these words were a
Speaker 2: story and they meant something right, and they would make
Speaker 2: me feel good. I know your partner, Bergo, we also
Speaker 2: share a love for Michael Jackson, so he gets it.
Speaker 2: If you love him, you get it. And then when
Speaker 2: the rumor started about him being a pedophile molesting two boys,
Speaker 2: which has never been net who was never convicted. It
Speaker 2: was all the charges were dropped and you can have
Speaker 2: your own opinion on whatever happens because nothing was ever proven,
Speaker 2: whether or not you think he's a monster or not.
Speaker 2: When that happened, I did watch those docos same and
Speaker 2: I and I stopped listening to his music and I
Speaker 2: couldn't listen to it, and a lot of radio stations
Speaker 2: stopped playing it for a while as well, even though
Speaker 2: nothing was confirmed. And the last couple of years, my
Speaker 2: kids have started loving Michael Jackson and listening to it.
Speaker 2: So I'm back on board of listening to his music.
Speaker 2: And I think there was a part there where I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just gonna is it compartmentalizing, where I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just going to put aside any other
Speaker 2: thoughts I might have about him in his personal life
Speaker 2: and appreciate him as an artist. So seeing this movie
Speaker 2: Lauren made me remember why I loved him so much,
Speaker 2: and it's so sad. I feel like, this is obviously
Speaker 2: my opinion on things, right, because you can everyone's entitled
Speaker 2: to their own opinion. People say that he was a monster,
Speaker 2: his dad was a monster. I this is my opinion.
Speaker 2: I believe that seeing this movie, he was abused physically
Speaker 2: by his dad, like bashed up by his dad, hit
Speaker 2: by his dad, mentally abused by his dad. He had
Speaker 2: no childhood, He had no friends. He had to work,
Speaker 2: didn't he He had to work from day one, Like
Speaker 2: he would get home from a concert. His dad just
Speaker 2: wanted money because they were a poor family, and he
Speaker 2: would get home and his dad would beat him if
Speaker 2: he didn't perform properly, and growing up. It's so sad
Speaker 2: that I see the way I always believe people are
Speaker 2: the way they are because of what happened to them
Speaker 2: in the past. Everyone's got a story, Everyone has a story.
Speaker 2: And you see this child grow into a man having
Speaker 2: never had a childhood and wanting these things. And I know,
Speaker 2: from the outside it looks weird. It looks weird that
Speaker 2: he had a little monkey, bubbles, he had a giraffe,
Speaker 2: he had a lama. He had all these animals that
Speaker 2: he would talk to because they were his friends. Right.
Speaker 2: He was obsessed with Peter Pan. And there's a moment
Speaker 2: that I never knew. There's a moment in the movie
Speaker 2: where he's reading Peter Pan for the millionth time and
Speaker 2: Peter Pan, you see Peter Pan's nose, it goes like
Speaker 2: up like a little Michael Jackson knows. And that was
Speaker 2: the point that I think everyone in the audience was like, ah,
Speaker 2: he actually wanted to be Peter Pan. Yeah, And so
Speaker 2: I felt really sad, like you feel really sad watching
Speaker 2: it because he's so talented and so amazing, and he
Speaker 2: went through so much hardship to get where he was
Speaker 2: that the movie ends on a high, and it ends
Speaker 2: in a really beautiful moment where I think it was
Speaker 2: like nineteen eighty seven, he broke away from the Jacksons
Speaker 2: and he went out on his own, and this is
Speaker 2: like peak Michael Jackson. And I know this is controversial
Speaker 2: saying this, but people always have a go at how
Speaker 2: much he changed his face. But I think there was
Speaker 2: a point where I was like, you know how people
Speaker 2: say they've got the star factor, someone has a start,
Speaker 2: He had the star factor. I don't think he would
Speaker 2: have been as successful if he had remained who he
Speaker 2: was and what he looked like. He was so unique.
Speaker 2: Was no one else like.
Speaker 1: Him, and everyone spoke about him because of his looks,
Speaker 1: and he's changing looks and it kind of aided in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's so unique. The second part of the movie,
Speaker 2: which I think they're in the talks of making, that's
Speaker 2: where it's going to get darker and messier.
Speaker 1: Do you know what? All the rumors and I hate this,
Speaker 1: All the rumors came out when he died.
Speaker 2: No, they some of them came out, so some two
Speaker 2: of them came out when they were when he was alive,
Speaker 2: but all fourteen charges were dropped. So and then it
Speaker 2: came out again when he died, and then they've done
Speaker 2: the documentary. That documentary came out when he died.
Speaker 1: Yes, so he couldn't re butt and be like this
Speaker 1: is you know, this is he did, but he said
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't do this. And macaulay Culkin has never ever
Speaker 2: come out and said that anything had happened to him,
Speaker 2: And that was what the hit. The hearsay was saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: that it was mcaulay culkin and two other kids.
Speaker 1: With everything happening in the world right now, it's so
Speaker 1: hard to believe anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So never Land Ranch. There's two people. There's two
Speaker 2: sides of this, And having watched the movie, now I go, oh,
Speaker 2: that's why it was that you built this make believe
Speaker 2: world that you wanted the whole your whole life. You
Speaker 2: wanted to be like Pete Pan and go to Neverland
Speaker 2: and have like animals roaming and just all the dream
Speaker 2: kind of scenario because he never had a childhood. And
Speaker 2: then there's the other side that people are saying, no,
Speaker 2: you built this so you could be a predator, which
Speaker 2: if that's not true, like I the more I'm researching it.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's true. I actually believe he is
Speaker 2: a tortured soul who never had a childhood and that's
Speaker 2: why he did what he did. I'm not saying. I'm
Speaker 2: sure there was moments with Michael where there were kids
Speaker 2: in his room, and that is wrong. That stuff. It's
Speaker 2: also very wrong with the moms and dads to let
Speaker 2: their kids, you know, eleven year olds go and stay
Speaker 2: at a man's house. That is very weird. But I
Speaker 2: don't know was this movie was so amazing? You have
Speaker 2: to see it.
Speaker 1: Maybe you've got me. I do want to see it.
Speaker 2: You love singing, and you you're someone who that moment
Speaker 2: that you get on stage and you sing is like.
Speaker 1: I know, but this is the thing because all I
Speaker 1: wanted to be was a singer, and I sang, and
Speaker 1: I did music and I taught singing when I left school.
Speaker 1: When I see musicals and when I watch things like this,
Speaker 1: I get so unbelievably sad. I'm not there. All I
Speaker 1: wanted to do was be on stage.
Speaker 2: See I look at it as I get inspired, I
Speaker 2: look at it and go, fuck. I want an exciting life.
Speaker 2: I want to do exciting things and be different and
Speaker 2: stand out and own that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just makes me. I just I wish i'd
Speaker 1: kept up with my singing, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I wish i'd You know how you've come back to painting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can. You can paint, not paint for ten years,
Speaker 1: come back singing. Your vocal cords are a muscle. So
Speaker 1: I used to sing for say, twenty five hours a week.
Speaker 1: So you go to the gym for twenty five hours
Speaker 1: a week. How fit are you?
Speaker 2: So fit?
Speaker 1: And then suddenly you don't go to the gym for
Speaker 1: five years. So I used to have this massive range,
Speaker 1: don't have it anymore. So then you go try and
Speaker 1: do it and you can't do it, and then you
Speaker 1: get sad. Whereas you can always kind of like put
Speaker 1: the paintbrush down, pick it back up type thing. So
Speaker 1: I kind of get sad and down on myself that
Speaker 1: I let myself.
Speaker 2: But why don't you get to start again? I know
Speaker 2: it's a time thing, but like, could you start?
Speaker 1: I know that feeling, yes, that feeling of just doing
Speaker 1: what you love. It's literally like jumping out of like
Speaker 1: Harry Climb or you know, that exhilarating feeling failing is
Speaker 1: what that being a kid again, jumping off a platform
Speaker 1: and you swing through the trees or singing on the stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like I think it's in people
Speaker 2: or it's not right, and I think you and I
Speaker 2: have this. It's the reason we do what we do.
Speaker 2: It's the bars and way I can't stop doing things
Speaker 2: because I'm always thinking of ways that I can have
Speaker 2: that feeling because it's addictive.
Speaker 1: And I still get it. The day I don't get
Speaker 1: it is the day I don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 1: I still go to film and I have nervous butterflies
Speaker 1: when that camera turns on. I still have that, Like
Speaker 1: the day I go I don't care is the day
Speaker 1: we quit, the day we shut up.
Speaker 2: But it's the reason why we're doing this podcast too. Yes,
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 1: Did you ever know what's gonna come out about that?
Speaker 2: I needed it? This podcast is everything that I've everything
Speaker 2: that I've wanted. Yeah, So to wrap it up, this
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson movie is like I would love people to
Speaker 2: see it, whether or not. Whatever you think of him,
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't watch this movie and not think
Speaker 2: he is one. There is no one else like him.
Speaker 1: Okay, you me and Burget are gonna go to the
Speaker 1: movies together.
Speaker 2: What about Jimmy, my husband.
Speaker 1: Jimmy wouldn't like Michael Jackson?
Speaker 2: He does, does he?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy can come. I forgot about that guy.
Speaker 2: I would love to take you to it.
Speaker 1: Jimmy was gonna have all the kids, so he's gonna
Speaker 1: have I.
Speaker 2: Listened to I listened to Michael Jackson like this is
Speaker 2: a sign of ADHD. I can listen to the same
Speaker 2: song over and over again for about seven hours. So
Speaker 2: I listened to his album over and over again, NonStop
Speaker 2: in the car.
Speaker 1: And on the way here, you were listening to a
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson podcast. You and Berger are very similar. You
Speaker 1: hyper fix on things, so you watch the movie and
Speaker 1: then you'll spend like the next week learning everything there
Speaker 1: is to know about him, listening to everything.
Speaker 2: And it's so sad. And the turning point for him
Speaker 2: was when that Pepsi commercial, when his head burnt and
Speaker 2: his hair like his hair, he lost, he almost died.
Speaker 2: That was the turning point where he started to have medication.
Speaker 2: Before that, he wasn't on drugs or anything like that.
Speaker 2: This whole pain relief thing started because he burnt his
Speaker 2: head and almost died, and his freaking dad didn't give
Speaker 2: a fuck about him. And the first thing he said
Speaker 2: was when he can when can he perform again? Not like, oh,
Speaker 2: your son almost died. He was an asshole.
Speaker 1: You hear that a lot about performance, don't you. Yeah. Elvis, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Elvis was the same.
Speaker 2: But that's why Michael Jackson told Britney to is emancipate
Speaker 2: herself without the word from her parents, because he was
Speaker 2: the same she was the same same dad, controlling dad
Speaker 2: and jack fulkan.
Speaker 1: They see dollar signs, Yeah, it's yucky, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Oh, we don't have dads like that.
Speaker 1: No, although I have dads. Every time we do see
Speaker 1: them go so where is our commission going up? Dad's
Speaker 1: like going from zero to zero? It's not it's not funny.
Speaker 1: And then Wayne's like, eh, from zero to zero? Am
Speaker 1: I right?
Speaker 2: Day?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I love that our dad's always make an appearance in
Speaker 2: our podcast every week.
Speaker 1: I love them.
Speaker 2: Do you know what? How lucky are we? You watch
Speaker 2: this movie and you go, oh my god, well, yes,
Speaker 2: so lucky with the dads that we got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they can also be scary. I remember that.
Speaker 1: Not like that though, not like that, Just to other
Speaker 1: people that piss us off. Oh yeah, so kill for
Speaker 1: us horse head in bit.
Speaker 2: On that note, have a lovely week. Thanks for listening,
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