WEBVTT - What Albo 2.0 will do with his immense new power 

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<v Speaker 1>From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday, May five, twenty twenty five. A newly empowered

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Albanesi has brought Labor to a whopping ninety seats

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<v Speaker 1>in the House of Representatives. Labour's picked up seats in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate to meaning it will no longer need to

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<v Speaker 1>negotiate with crossbenches and can get legislation through with the

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<v Speaker 1>support of the Greens. Only now there will be a

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<v Speaker 1>cabinet reshuffle and a new agenda. Business is worried there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be more industrial relations changes, the energy sector wants the

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<v Speaker 1>government to recommit to gas, and it seems working from

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<v Speaker 1>Home is here to stay. Peter Dutton is out of

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<v Speaker 1>Parliament and a devastated Liberal Party is searching for a

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<v Speaker 1>new leader and a new identity. Front Runners for the

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<v Speaker 1>leadership include Dude Angus Taylor, Susan Lee and Dantean. But

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<v Speaker 1>there'll be a reckoning on how the party wins back

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<v Speaker 1>voters who've gone to the teals today and every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Australian's Editor at Large, Paul Kelly on what Albow two

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<v Speaker 1>point zero means for all of us This morning, Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Albanezi wakes up as the most powerful prime minister in generations.

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<v Speaker 1>My fellow Australians, he's broken all the so called rules

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<v Speaker 1>like first term prime ministers never increase their majority.

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<v Speaker 2>Serving as your prime minister is the greatest honor of

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<v Speaker 2>my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Australians would never forgive him for the disaster of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Voice, and I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land

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<v Speaker 2>on which we made and I pay my respects to

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<v Speaker 2>elders past, present and emerging today and every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Labor would be brutally punished for presiding over huge

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living increases.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, we didn't do well enough during this campaign. That

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<v Speaker 3>much is obvious tonight, and I accept full responsibility for that.

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<v Speaker 1>None of those predictions came true. Peter Dunton is out

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<v Speaker 1>of Parliament. The Coalition has been reduced to half as

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<v Speaker 1>many seats as Labor in Queensland alone, a state where

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<v Speaker 1>Labor has previously been written off, Labor won at least

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<v Speaker 1>six seats. The Greens have grown their primary vote but

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<v Speaker 1>lost seats, and the Teals have held and gained some ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Kelly is The Australian's Editor at Large and Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>most revered political journalist. Paul, You've covered politics for more

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<v Speaker 1>than five decades. Where does this election sit.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the most extraordinary election I've seen in my

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<v Speaker 4>five decades. This is a turning point election for the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody predicted the scale of this result. It's transformed Anthony

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<v Speaker 4>Albanezi into a prime Minister of immense authority and of

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<v Speaker 4>long standing significance. This Labor government will govern for a

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<v Speaker 4>long period of time and it's left the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 4>in ruins. One of the questions, of course, is whether

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<v Speaker 4>the Liberal Party is actually capable of recovery. If it is,

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<v Speaker 4>that recovery will take many years.

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<v Speaker 1>At his victory speech in twenty twenty two, Albanezy introduced

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a voice to Parliament, a policy that

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<v Speaker 1>ended in defeat and confusion. In twenty twenty five, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't articulate any new policy ideas, but he did celebrate Medicare.

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<v Speaker 2>His kart's not Labor red or Liberal blue. It is

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<v Speaker 2>green and gold. It is a declaration of our national

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<v Speaker 2>values in our national colors.

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<v Speaker 1>And the trade union movement to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Labor Party's heart and soul, our rank and file

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<v Speaker 2>members and the mighty trade union movement of Australia. The

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Party will always stand up for jobs and people's

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<v Speaker 2>wages and conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>After the twenty twenty two election, Paul Labor enacted a

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<v Speaker 1>wave of IR reforms that it hadn't taken to the campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>things like the right to disconnect, which was a Greens idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we now expect another wave of IR reform.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the government of the Labor Party will come

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<v Speaker 4>under immense pressure from every progressive group in the country,

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<v Speaker 4>demanding money, policies and concessions, and my suspicion is that

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<v Speaker 4>Anthony Alberzi will respond to that with a lot of discretion,

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<v Speaker 4>caution and authority. What's happened in this campaign is the

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<v Speaker 4>country's moved to the left in economic, social and cultural terms.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think Albanzi will still want to govern from

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<v Speaker 4>what he sees as being the Labor center.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of talk during the campaign that

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<v Speaker 1>this election would be about one issue cost of living?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that true in the end, Well, it was true.

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<v Speaker 4>The election was about cost of living, but this was

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<v Speaker 4>really to say, this was a really deceptive issue because

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<v Speaker 4>the Peter Dutton campaign was far too narrow. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it almost got to the stage where the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 4>stood for cheaper petrol. That's not good enough, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>good enough. The Liberal brand was lost. The sense of

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<v Speaker 4>what the Liberal Party represents, what the Liberal Party stands for,

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<v Speaker 4>was lost. It's one thing to say the issue is

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<v Speaker 4>cost of living. We've got to introduce concessions, cheaper petrol

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<v Speaker 4>and other changes in order to convince people we want

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<v Speaker 4>to look after them. But that only works if you've

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<v Speaker 4>got a strong political brand behind it. I think what

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<v Speaker 4>happened in this campaign is people didn't really know what

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<v Speaker 4>the Liberal Party stood for. The Liberal Party forgot totally

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<v Speaker 4>the advice from John Howard that it needs to be

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<v Speaker 4>a broad church. It wasn't. It ran on thin policies,

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<v Speaker 4>it contracted the entire debate. So I think strategically and

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<v Speaker 4>tactically the Liberal Party misjudged, and in particular Peter Dutton misjudged.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Senate. Labour's position has improved and it no

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<v Speaker 1>longer needs crossbench support. It can get legislation through with

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<v Speaker 1>the support of the Greens only. The Greens have lost

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<v Speaker 1>two seats in Queensland and leader Adam Bant had a

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<v Speaker 1>very tough fight in his seat of Melbourne, but their

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<v Speaker 1>primary vote increased and Band says they kicked out Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Albanezi is now very dominant and his left faction

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<v Speaker 1>is dominant too. He gets to reshuffle the cabinet, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'd think that people who were once leadership contenders

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<v Speaker 1>like Tanya Plibasik Jason Clair are going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>get used to a very new reality. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be brutal in reshaping that cabinet?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't. He will make some changes and the

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<v Speaker 4>order to make some change after this result, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think there will be a lot of stability. There will

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<v Speaker 4>be quite a commitment to the status quo in the

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<v Speaker 4>senior positions. After that, of course, there should be some change,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm certain there will be some change.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up. Where did the Liberals go from here? Up close,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton is smart and witty, a likable, family oriented

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<v Speaker 1>former cop and.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad and I said to the Prime minister that his

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<v Speaker 3>mum would be incredibly proud of his achievement tonight, and

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<v Speaker 3>he should be very proud of what he's achieved, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>But in caricature, like in the work of The Australian's

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<v Speaker 1>own cartoonist Johannes Leek, he's Lurch Voldemort, a zombie, a

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<v Speaker 1>gray faced, hulking undertaker.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been defined by our opponent in this election, which

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<v Speaker 3>is not the true story of who we are. But

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<v Speaker 3>we'll rebuild from here. We'll do that because we know

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<v Speaker 3>our values, we know our beliefs and will always stick

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<v Speaker 3>to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a mistake to choose Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't think it was, because after the previous

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<v Speaker 4>election in twenty twenty two, when Josh Friedenberg lost his seat,

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<v Speaker 4>it became obvious that Peter Dutton was a senior Liberal

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<v Speaker 4>and I think the party did the right thing putting

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<v Speaker 4>him in. I think we've got to be very careful

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<v Speaker 4>about judgments in retrospect. I mean it looked for quite

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the past term as though Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 4>was doing pretty well. Peter Dutton made some really significant mistakes. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 4>I think he was trying to win on grievance. There

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<v Speaker 4>were seven quarters of negative GDP per capita. This was

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest fall in Australian living standards in half a century.

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<v Speaker 4>He thought the electorate was coming against Albanisi with baseball bats.

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<v Speaker 4>He misread that that was wrong. It wasn't that bad.

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<v Speaker 4>The second mistake he made was not to knuckle down

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<v Speaker 4>and produce substantial opposition policies at a much earlier stage.

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<v Speaker 4>He deferred the hard policy work and what that meant

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<v Speaker 4>was that when the campaign came they were underprepared, they

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<v Speaker 4>hadn't done the hard work, and they were brutally exposed

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<v Speaker 4>on that front during the course of the campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>The moderate wing of the Liberal Party has been outsourced

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<v Speaker 1>to the Teals. They now win seats that the Liberals

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<v Speaker 1>could once rely on. Does the party need to change

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<v Speaker 1>to try to win those people back, or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a different way forward for the Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 4>Now there's only one way forward for the Liberal Party,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's got to avoid any suggestion that there's a

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<v Speaker 4>silver bullet on either the right or the left. So

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<v Speaker 4>if they're a party conservatives saying the answer is to

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<v Speaker 4>put a lot of political water between the Liberals and

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<v Speaker 4>the Labor Party by moving further to the right and

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<v Speaker 4>becoming more conservative. That is a lecture of doom. On

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<v Speaker 4>the other hand, if there are progressive liberals saying what

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to do is we've got to move further

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<v Speaker 4>to the left and understand what's going on in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of cultural change, that is also the path of doom.

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<v Speaker 4>The only way forward is to run a broad church.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the John Howard philosophy. You've got to understand

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<v Speaker 4>how the country's changing, and that means the Liberal Party's

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<v Speaker 4>got to change. But it's got to change in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of a broad church being a party of both liberal

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<v Speaker 4>and conservative traditions, and it's got to reinterpret what the

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<v Speaker 4>broad Church means for the decade of the twenty twenties.

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<v Speaker 4>And in particular, that means it's got to address its

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<v Speaker 4>fundamental identity problems with this country. First of all, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a lack of support among the professional, corporate and managerial classes. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 4>it's problem with women. Thirdly, its problem with the under

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<v Speaker 4>forty vote. Fourthly, it's problem with multicultural Australia. Fifthly, its

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<v Speaker 4>problem with public servants. In other words, it's got to

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<v Speaker 4>rethink its identity from top to bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>The front runners are Angus Taylor, Dan Tien and Susan Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, for the Liberal leadership, that's a huge task

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<v Speaker 1>that you've just outlined. Do you think any of them

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<v Speaker 1>have what it takes to turn this party around.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll have to see. They've lost so many people for

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<v Speaker 4>one reason or another out of the parliament Josh Friedenberg

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<v Speaker 4>or Christian Porter, or Mantius Corman or Christopher Pine or

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<v Speaker 4>Greg Hunt or Scott Morrison or Malcolm Turnbull or Tony

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<v Speaker 4>Abbott and now Peter Dutton. I mean, you could just

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<v Speaker 4>think of what sort of front bench you could put

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<v Speaker 4>together with all the people that they've lost, and that

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<v Speaker 4>talent train is a real problem. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a very difficult, a very challenging and

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<v Speaker 4>a hard road back for the Liberal Party. Now Albanzey

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<v Speaker 4>knows that. I think the really interesting thing is whether

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<v Speaker 4>Albanese succumbs to Hubris. I don't think he will. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he's more in touch with the community than people think.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's realistic, he doesn't have a huge ego

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<v Speaker 4>about himself, and I think he judgment is judgment about

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<v Speaker 4>government and stability and his capacity to read the Australian

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<v Speaker 4>Electric is pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Kelly is The Australian's Editor at Large. You can

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