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Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy and with with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Our eleven year old Lennox had his high school interview yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So it was you know, it's one of those moments.

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Speaker 2: I love these interviews because as I was walking in,

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Speaker 2: there was tables everywhere and there's a lot of interviews

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Speaker 2: going on, Kate and the best thing. It's one of

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Speaker 2: those moments where that the teachers have to look at

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Speaker 2: the parents and.

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Speaker 3: Go, I'll hold you up there. I'm not asking you

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Speaker 3: the question. I'm asking your child the question. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of that going on.

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Speaker 4: It's an exercise in self control, isn't it. You didn't

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Speaker 4: wear you add a K three stripe though.

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Speaker 2: You Yeah, I did hear the whole track suit and

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Speaker 2: I had a bum bag on and an Orderica hat.

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Speaker 5: Did you make any money out there?

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Speaker 4: I actually like your three strike Fitsy. I was just saying,

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Speaker 4: maybe did you did you?

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Speaker 3: Did you put on a fresh T shirt?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: Is there a pressure on the parents? Do you think

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Speaker 4: it was BJ or lovely?

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Speaker 3: You know what I don't? And this is what I

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Speaker 3: love about it.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of tradey dad's there and they've

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Speaker 2: come straight from one of them.

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Speaker 5: Just to point out two fits. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you know yesterday you had a hat on that said

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Speaker 5: kill them.

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Speaker 3: All Metallity one of the greatest albums of all time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I'm not sure that's what you want

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Speaker 5: going into a teacher chat.

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Speaker 3: Well that's one.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted one of the brand values to be

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Speaker 2: for this show, but they didn't get.

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Speaker 3: Over the line.

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Speaker 2: So when you sit down, BJ and I said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's le he's Lenny.

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Speaker 3: This is Lenny's interview.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we stay back and there are moments that

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Speaker 2: you do want to jump in, but.

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Speaker 3: You've got to be very patient.

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Speaker 2: So we were really impressed, really impressed with Lennie because

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Speaker 2: there were two big words that he brought up in

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Speaker 2: his interview.

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Speaker 3: So one of the questions was what would your.

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Speaker 2: Classmates say about you Lenny as a fellow student legend,

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Speaker 2: And straight away Katie came out and he said, you

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Speaker 2: know what they would say about me?

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Speaker 3: I have confidence?

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Speaker 2: And I went, wow, he's got the confidence to actually

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Speaker 2: pronounce confidence.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably struggle there.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a written exam.

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Speaker 2: The other one was if I spoke to your teacher,

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Speaker 2: what would she say is the best way to teach.

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Speaker 3: Lenny, that's a great question.

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Speaker 2: It is a great question. And he said, And I

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Speaker 2: love this, he said straight away. He said, I like

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Speaker 2: to be independent. He basically said, I know I can

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Speaker 2: get into trouble by talking to my friends sometime, so

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Speaker 2: independent and by myself.

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Speaker 3: Wow, he's done.

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Speaker 5: I don't argue, hasn't he?

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Speaker 2: So they said, all right, well you're in a classroom

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Speaker 2: by yourself. Mate.

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Speaker 3: No, you've got no.

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Speaker 4: Space here because the six hundred other kids going to

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Speaker 2: The other one I wanted to bring up, this is

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Speaker 2: the big He kept bringing up his brother because his

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Speaker 2: brother goes to the school. And he kept saying. They said,

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Speaker 2: why do you want to come to this school, Lennox,

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Speaker 2: And he said, I because my brother goes here, and

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Speaker 3: And I looked at Boja and went, I don't know

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Speaker 3: there for you in those moments. Mate.

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Speaker 5: But that's love, though, isn't it up to me? I

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Speaker 5: love that he said that because he's looking up to

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Speaker 5: his older brother and he's thinking, not only am I

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Speaker 5: impressed to be able to say that Huey is my brother,

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Speaker 5: all right, my big brother is Huey Fitzgerald. He's also

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Speaker 5: hoping there's a bit of support there if he was

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Speaker 4: It sounds like he's delusional, though it fits because you're

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Speaker 4: saying there wouldn't be that let's support.

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't go to the same high school as

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Speaker 2: my sister Holly, right, she went to a different.

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Speaker 3: High school, the high school that I went to.

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Speaker 2: Mum and Dad realized pretty quickly, we're not sending our

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Speaker 2: daughter there, are you.

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Speaker 3: We need one good one out of the two. They

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Speaker 3: sent him to a proper school. But I've been thinking

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Speaker 3: about this all night.

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Speaker 2: Is it a positive or a negative thing to have

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Speaker 2: an older or younger sibling with you at high school?

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Speaker 2: Was there a your own moment where an older brother

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Speaker 2: around where they just made your life?

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Speaker 5: Hell, we always have that chat because there's been a

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Speaker 5: moment where say, Ted's fallen over or Jack's fallen over

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Speaker 5: and smashed his face or something, and the other one

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Speaker 5: hasn't helped. They've just run off with their mates, and

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Speaker 5: I went, guys, do you understand that Jack is an

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Speaker 5: extension of you?

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Speaker 5: And Ted You're an extension of Jack. You guys always

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Speaker 5: think concept always together. If one goes in, you both go,

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Speaker 5: and if one goes down, you go to help. That's

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Speaker 5: what brothership is about.

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Speaker 3: If you're on your own, brothers, you're not.

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Speaker 2: And I dream of those moments of one sibling getting

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Speaker 2: bullied and the older one comes in and goes, Oh, that's.

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Speaker 3: My little sister or that's my brother, leave him alone.

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Speaker 3: Does that actually happen? At high school? Thirteen twenty fourteen?

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Speaker 3: Has it happened to you?

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Speaker 5: Talk about the power of brothers, like two brothers is

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Speaker 5: worth the power of four people?

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Speaker 3: What are you going want to is that?

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Speaker 5: The same Jess never heard at?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 5: Two brothers is worth the power of four peop people?

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Speaker 3: Is that what they have on?

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Speaker 4: Like the little Insignia or whatever?

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Speaker 3: That was the other brand value that I brought to

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Speaker 3: the team along with Keller more, but none of them

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Speaker 3: got through. Cassandra and Little Bay. What happened Cassandra?

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Speaker 1: Well, I was at the tuck shop, So there was

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Speaker 1: a little store near the school that used to be

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Speaker 1: used to auder your lunch. And I had my lunch

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Speaker 1: money in my paper bag that you know, Mum would prepare,

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Speaker 1: and my sister had put her order and she was

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Speaker 1: in his six I.

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Speaker 3: Was in kindy and.

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Speaker 1: School bully used to bully kids to take their lunch money.

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Speaker 1: And he came up behind me to just give me

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Speaker 1: someone said, Hey, my sister's angela George, it's his name,

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Speaker 1: is your sister. And she walked up to him and

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Speaker 1: everyone was scared of him, terrified of him because he

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Speaker 1: was physically physically me and a menace. And she looked

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Speaker 1: at him and she coked him in the chest and

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Speaker 1: she said, leave her alone. Go bus on someone your

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Speaker 1: own side. And she was a legend friend and she's awesome.

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Speaker 5: How that cast? So, George?

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Speaker 3: That is awesome?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good story is a movie in that? Isn't there?

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Speaker 5: Mem on the Central Coast? What do you reckon?

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Speaker 6: I actually had the opposite experience. I was the bully

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Speaker 6: by my sister. She went through four high schools in

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Speaker 6: the end, and the school wouldn't do anything about it

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Speaker 6: because I just thought it as a domestic issue. But Now,

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Speaker 6: I'm a teacher and I see kids all the time,

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Speaker 6: either sort of negatively, you know, tarnished with the brush

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Speaker 6: and the name you know of their older sibling, or

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Speaker 6: the expectations their older siblings sets, you know from an

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Speaker 6: exceedingly high perspective, is crippling.

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Speaker 5: Now, I mem, are you close with your sister? Now?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: No, So you're what you're saying is that each child

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Speaker 4: should be treated as an individual, whether that's good or bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Because every class I walked into, they would recognize

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Speaker 6: the last name, and I think they thought they were

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Speaker 6: going to cop the same.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm all for siblings going to separate schools.

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Speaker 6: You do see siblings being lovely to each other, but

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Speaker 6: more often than not, I think it's either negative for

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Speaker 3: Let's go to nis and ride. What happened during high school?

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Speaker 8: Niss So I have a similar experience. It's having an

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Speaker 8: older sibling is completely underrated, Like it's stupid.

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Speaker 6: They're so dumb.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what's going Literally, no older siblings ever,

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Speaker 8: because they take this limelight, they take your sportslight away

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Speaker 3: I thought about this news.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking because they're there first and they're proving

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Speaker 3: It takes your spotlight away.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's a bit different as well, because you know,

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Speaker 8: I was born and brought up in India, and in India,

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Speaker 8: because he's a boy and I'm.

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Speaker 7: A girl, they're worshiped.

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Speaker 8: I basically got to play hockey. I was playing hockey.

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Speaker 8: I played Junior India and I played national. I was

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Speaker 8: the first girl in the whole suburb to make it

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 8: And the newspaper guys came over to interview me. And

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Speaker 8: when they interviewed my mom, all she talked about is

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Speaker 8: my brother. The article. I was like, this is ridiculous,

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Speaker 8: like it it's above me. I was the one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's not fairness. And that word was worship.

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Speaker 5: By the way, worship.

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Speaker 3: Is lost dominating in hockey. I'm the one with the

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Speaker 3: Koko barra bat. Come and interview mate, what are you

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Speaker 3: talking about? My brother?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 5: It's not fair? Sarah's and petishon what happened say, all right.

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Speaker 7: Is absolutely a horrible idea. They send kids to the

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Speaker 7: same score. We actually ended up being in different schools

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Speaker 7: because so all right. For example, one time there was

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Speaker 7: this roll up and it was a real issue because

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Speaker 7: my sister, like she's my twins, she wasn't dividing it properly,

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Speaker 7: like a punch up over it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, are you talking about an uncle Toby's roll up?

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Speaker 5: Fresh fruit fruit?

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Speaker 2: So you had a fight with your sister over half

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Speaker 2: a roll up, Sarah? And this this happened regularly at school.

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Speaker 2: You always got in the knuckles with your sister, did you.

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Speaker 7: Well, more or less?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 7: Anyway, this time the principal and the deputy were right nearby.

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Speaker 7: Someone went and got them, bought them over. H We're

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Speaker 7: still in full swing. Principal tries to break us up.

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Speaker 7: My sister take the swing at the depth at the principal.

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Speaker 7: We both just stopped. We're like, we look at each other.

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Speaker 7: I I'm like, I'm not can round. This is no way.

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Speaker 7: So then I leave her to deal with that and

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Speaker 7: I'm running home. Next minute I hear that the problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, without a roll up, then no roll up.

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Speaker 5: In Sarah's sister's defense, it's not easy to break a

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Speaker 5: roll up in half.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's not easy.

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Speaker 3: It's a fair call. You think mum would give a

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Speaker 3: roll up to each sister.

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Speaker 4: That would solve well, there's another bigger issue. Starts it

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Speaker 4: All Starts at Home Guy.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, It's Whip with Kate.

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