WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 5 March

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray live.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get evening, especially to our mates in Southeast Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be on the ground with you tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 2>and all weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most obvious of reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I get into the latest and we get to

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<v Speaker 2>a reporter who has been watching people prepare and gives

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<v Speaker 2>us the latest from Southeast Queensland, particularly the Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>In a second, can I say something now that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably not going to get the chance to say for

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<v Speaker 2>the next couple of days, and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people feel it. These events are not about politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>They shouldn't be used by politicians. They should, of course

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<v Speaker 2>be about the people and giving as much information as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know why the Prime Minister is in Southeast Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland can't stand him, so he's going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>use this to look like the leader. Here's the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who will do the emergency services work. They

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<v Speaker 2>work for the state government or they are part of

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<v Speaker 2>local government. The federal government does have some money here,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes they throw some extra.

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<v Speaker 1>Troops at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But watching the Prime Minister begin a period of carrying

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<v Speaker 2>on today and bringing ministers who are just frankly being

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<v Speaker 2>publicized as local labor MPs. It's not okay with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and thankfully there are other people who view this. An

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<v Speaker 2>opinion section in the Courier Mail this afternoon says, this

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<v Speaker 2>morning the Prime Minister visitor of the State Coordination Center

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<v Speaker 2>a companied by the federal Sports Minister, Anika Wells. Anika

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<v Speaker 2>Wells is the Sports Minister and the Age Care Minister.

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<v Speaker 2>She has no relevance to this whatsoever, but she's a

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<v Speaker 2>member for Lily and they are afraid that she may

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<v Speaker 2>lose her seat, so she gets front and center. She

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<v Speaker 2>along with the Prime Minister, are wasting some people's time here.

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<v Speaker 2>We need the people to know that they're doing it

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<v Speaker 2>and focused on what they're doing, not being dragged away

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<v Speaker 2>to entertain politicians as our state braces for the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Ravenezy's visit amounts to a shameless grab for votes

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of the looming election. Labor looks set to lose

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland is aren't stupid? This Albo and Alfred show is

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<v Speaker 2>just an There is an exception, of course, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is the state Premier.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I come from a different era when it wasn't state

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<v Speaker 2>premiers who were the ones who.

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<v Speaker 1>Were sort of m seeing these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead it was the head of the rural fire Service,

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<v Speaker 2>the head of the sees. But now, particularly after Anna

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<v Speaker 2>Bly the best part of what ten years ago when

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<v Speaker 2>it came to the floods. Back then, all politicians and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly at the state level, they become the chief spokesperson

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone connected into the government. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important to the prime ministers across it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the idea that the Prime Minister is

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<v Speaker 2>going to stand there and soak up time on the

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<v Speaker 2>hour every hour, or popping up somewhere else and standing

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<v Speaker 2>next to Labor Party MPs, that is desperately trying to

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<v Speaker 2>prop up. I know I'll cop flak for it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying it now before the things get serious. Best

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<v Speaker 2>be out of the way, not front and center. But

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<v Speaker 2>this prime minister is of course shameless. The people I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear from is not just the premier, but

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear from the emergency officials. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from the people who actually do the work,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'll tell you the truth, be it COVID or

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<v Speaker 2>be it an earthquake, or be it a bush fire,

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<v Speaker 2>be it a flood.

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<v Speaker 1>Or be it a tropical cyclone.

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<v Speaker 2>The experts are the ones who are briefing the politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear from the people who are the experts.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear about their theories about whether things

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<v Speaker 2>are getting better or worse, whether it's going to land here,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's going to move this way or that way.

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<v Speaker 2>The granular detail matters. Yes, the opportunity is there, and

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<v Speaker 2>if we have the opportunity to talk with the Queen's

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<v Speaker 2>Land Premiere, I gladly will. But the Prime Minister laying

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<v Speaker 2>on top of all of this, I've got my issues

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<v Speaker 2>so too.

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<v Speaker 1>What is about to bear down?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I know we're a couple of days out and

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<v Speaker 2>some people may say, hey, let's talk about it when

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<v Speaker 2>it's here. No, let's talk about it now, because now's

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<v Speaker 2>the time you can prepare. Hopefully this thing is not

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<v Speaker 2>as bad as it seems. But if it is as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as it seems, Southeast Queen's Land and an awful

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are in real trouble. Anywhere between twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thirty thousand homes anywhere from the top of the Sunshine

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<v Speaker 2>Coast to the top of the north coast of New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales are going to be in the eye of

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<v Speaker 2>this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's either going to be heavy rain, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be strong winds, it's going to be the storm surge.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of properties in Queensland are right up against

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<v Speaker 2>the beach, so there's lots of things to pay attention

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<v Speaker 2>to here today. Local councils, and I've got to say

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<v Speaker 2>a massive shout out to the local councils in southeast

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland the way that they respond. They are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who offer the free sandbacks, and there have been hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of thousands of them that have been handed out. People

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<v Speaker 2>have had to wait hours for them, but Queensland has

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<v Speaker 2>been Queenslanders. They take it all in their stride. But

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<v Speaker 2>well donder the councils that have provided these things, and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't provide it two days before they do it

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<v Speaker 2>for the best part of all of this week. Here

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<v Speaker 2>are some of the people who have been doing that

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<v Speaker 2>to prepare if the water gets anywhere near the little

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<v Speaker 2>breaks under the door or towards their home that hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>it won't be higher than the fortresses they are building

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<v Speaker 2>as we speak. Apparently we limited to twenty five so Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get them as you.

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<v Speaker 3>Try and get the lot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh myself, neighbors down the road.

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<v Speaker 5>I've just moved into a new house, so I'm really

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<v Speaker 5>not sure how it's going to behave yeah through this

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<v Speaker 5>weather events. So yeah, better be safe than sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just sandbags, lots of other things people are doing also,

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<v Speaker 2>so important message came from the Queensland government today. If

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<v Speaker 2>you've got solar panels, turn them off now. Obviously these

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<v Speaker 2>things may blow around, may be pulled off from roofs,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're saying turn off the systems right now rather

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<v Speaker 2>than trying to secure them. Certainly, don't do what a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of people have done, which is to put the

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<v Speaker 2>sandbags on those things, because of course things are going

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<v Speaker 2>to blow around and those things become projectiles. Here's more

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<v Speaker 2>people getting ready. What are they doing in southeast Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember we're not talking about a little bit. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the vast majority of Queensland's population that sits anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>from the Sunny coast to the border.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a sensible thing to do right now to pack

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<v Speaker 6>up so that we're not having to pack up in

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<v Speaker 6>the full on cyclone winds tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 7>So here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh pretty much. God is there's no water in that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all gone. So I've gone with coconut water to

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<v Speaker 1>replace it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ands that's pretty much I'm going to be trying to

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<v Speaker 2>live off.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm pretty scared about it. So and we've been

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<v Speaker 8>told to in a take all caution, so I think

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<v Speaker 8>everyone should be serious to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the officials I want to hear a lot

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<v Speaker 2>from is the Lord Mayor of Brisbane. Unlike most places,

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<v Speaker 2>Brisbane basically has one giant local council area that is

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<v Speaker 2>the Metropolitan Area of Brisbane, which means that a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like a mayor in the United States, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about their little pocket. They are talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the entire capital and future Olympic city. He's Adrian Shrinner.

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<v Speaker 3>People should not be out tomorrow and the next day

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<v Speaker 3>at the very least. It is a personal safety matter

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<v Speaker 3>and we're certainly encouraging everyone in the community tomorrow Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Please stay indoors. It is the safest place for you,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Get to Jonathan Lee in a second. He's standing by.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been watching all of this and the preparations. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to sky on his weather. The very latest

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<v Speaker 2>about exactly what he's going to be the potential hit

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<v Speaker 2>zone of what he's being at this moment, colloquially referred

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<v Speaker 2>to as Cyclone Alphie.

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<v Speaker 9>The wind and the rain will increase through Thursday along

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<v Speaker 9>the East coastline, but the worst of the weather is

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<v Speaker 9>now expected to arrive on Friday, as tropical Cyclone Alfred

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<v Speaker 9>is likely to reach the coast later. There's even a

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<v Speaker 9>chance it won't make landfall until Saturday. The most dangerous

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<v Speaker 9>part of the system could easily be the storm surge,

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<v Speaker 9>where the water levels could rise very high and into

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<v Speaker 9>people's homes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, talking to people on the Sunny coast this evening,

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<v Speaker 2>get to them watching right now again. Their expectations are

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<v Speaker 2>things are going to be a little bit closer to Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 1>But keep an eye on all of those maps and

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<v Speaker 1>keep yourself safe, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Lee is in Burley Burly Heads, which is of

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<v Speaker 2>course on the southern part of the Gold Coast. Mate,

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<v Speaker 2>what have you seen today as people get ready for

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<v Speaker 2>a heck of a weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good eating to you, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>Please don't think that I'm a poor imitation of a DJ.

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<v Speaker 5>It just starts to get hard at times.

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<v Speaker 7>To hear from you.

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<v Speaker 5>The squally gets up and we've just nearly got knocked

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<v Speaker 5>off our feet.

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<v Speaker 10>It's been a heck of a day, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of people who are deeply unnerved with

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<v Speaker 5>what's coming and what's headed their way. As you talked

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<v Speaker 5>about before, you're looking at the better part of around

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<v Speaker 5>four million people southeast Queensland, over the border of the

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<v Speaker 5>Tweed community and then down into the northern rivers of

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<v Speaker 5>New South Wales, which just continues to be beaten and

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<v Speaker 5>bashed over the last fifteen years with flood after flood.

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<v Speaker 5>Your heart really goes out to those people. In particular.

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<v Speaker 5>We're looking at hundreds of thousands of sandbags which have

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<v Speaker 5>gone out to communities. We're being told that more people

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<v Speaker 5>have snapped them up, especially in the Redlands Bay area,

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<v Speaker 5>which is where this cyclone is expected to cross, in

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<v Speaker 5>ways they've never done before. Lines six seven hours long

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<v Speaker 5>for people to get sandbags. People turning up with things

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<v Speaker 5>like trolleys, trying to get in front of the cars

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<v Speaker 5>as best they can to get their sandbags to get away.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of people deeply, deeply nervous about all

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<v Speaker 5>of this. One of the things that been seriously concerned

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<v Speaker 5>about is this tidal flow. If the cyclone was to

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<v Speaker 5>hit at the peak of high around the two am mark,

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<v Speaker 5>that would end up pushing that wall of water even

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<v Speaker 5>further down the rivers and creeks, which would do even

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<v Speaker 5>more damage to the homes, which obviously live a longest.

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<v Speaker 5>It starts to look at this point in time, though,

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<v Speaker 5>that we might end up seeing the tropical cyclone crossing

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<v Speaker 5>later than expected. What will that mean If it's Saturday

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<v Speaker 5>morning instead of Friday, we might lose some of that intensity,

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<v Speaker 5>which would be good for the Queensland homes. They're the

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<v Speaker 5>ones I worry most about. You might live in a

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<v Speaker 5>pretty Queenslander, but if the house down the street hasn't

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<v Speaker 5>been renovated like yours, and it hasn't gone through a

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<v Speaker 5>cyclone for the past fifty years, you might find that

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<v Speaker 5>that ends up in your backyard. That's the sort of

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<v Speaker 5>stuff you've got to be worried about, especially if you

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<v Speaker 5>live on stumps and you haven't had a decent weather event,

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<v Speaker 5>or this is going to be the biggest weather event

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<v Speaker 5>on the Gold Coast in seventy years. That's the sort

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<v Speaker 5>of thing people are talking about. So we start to

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<v Speaker 5>look at the intensity of the cyclone itself on the

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<v Speaker 5>level of rain. If it doesn't come in until Saturday,

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<v Speaker 5>it looks like it perhaps might not be as intense,

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<v Speaker 5>but we'll end up seeing more rain. How that plays out, well,

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<v Speaker 5>that'll impact on the communities living either along the rivers

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<v Speaker 5>and the creeks and the tributaries, or where the water

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<v Speaker 5>will end up in, like communities like Rosalie, which is

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<v Speaker 5>in a low Brisbane has a lot of valleys throughout

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<v Speaker 5>the city and that's where that water ends up going.

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<v Speaker 5>We spoke to some people who were waiting here today

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<v Speaker 5>having a gork at the incredible waves, the thumping waves

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<v Speaker 5>which have been rolling in. One of the gentlemen we

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<v Speaker 5>spoke to said he's actually staying in the caravan about

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and fifty meters away. Let's have a listen

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<v Speaker 5>to what the locals were telling us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everyone's saying different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people saying, Betty go stay.

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<v Speaker 7>It's got a fizzle hour when it hits land.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm It's anyone's guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>I I've just obviously moved uff around the house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>just to prepare for I suppose what's expected. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 4>might have sort of bit surreal at the moment you

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<v Speaker 4>sort of yeah, it's obviously not too windy, but a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of rain. But yeah, next thirty hours or yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, John, I was just going to ask about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Gold Coast in particular here where up Stay Runaway Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a whole bunch of those houses, newer houses,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are basically, you know, right up and off

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<v Speaker 2>the major coastline. A whole bunch of other things down

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<v Speaker 2>around Labrador Southport, and obviously we make our way through

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<v Speaker 2>into the canals in and around the Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>The surge in.

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<v Speaker 2>Water is going to be part of the problem here. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just what comes down, it's what comes up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what's happening a couple of streets over of what

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<v Speaker 2>you've been able to put together of the picture of

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<v Speaker 2>the Gold Coast through say the mayor officials, briefings. People

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about be as specific as you want to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, suburb by a suburb if you wish, But

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<v Speaker 2>what are the areas of the Gold Coast in particular

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<v Speaker 2>that are of concern?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, Paul, I think you've just now them all on

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<v Speaker 5>the head anyone who's living along a tributary and inlet.

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<v Speaker 10>That was very good what you just said.

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<v Speaker 5>Gold Coast is famous for those who live along the waterways,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's where this is going to rise up and

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<v Speaker 5>likely damag The Premier today was making the point that

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to be prepositioning assets along those areas and

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<v Speaker 5>routes to try and get assistance to people where they can,

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<v Speaker 5>especially for instance, if they're going to be cut off.

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<v Speaker 5>There's talk here that people should expect to lose power

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<v Speaker 5>for five to seven days to make sure that they've

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<v Speaker 5>got the food and the water needed if they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to be cut off. So that's a very real danger

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<v Speaker 5>if you've got your house backing onto a canal and

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<v Speaker 5>you start to find the water coming and lapping at

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<v Speaker 5>your back door going over the pool, So very real.

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<v Speaker 5>As we said, it's the biggest weather event to strike

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<v Speaker 5>this region in seventy odd years. The last cyclone I

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<v Speaker 5>covered was two thousand kilometers north of here. That was

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<v Speaker 5>in Cooktown. I covered another in Cairns where we traveled

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<v Speaker 5>on a chopper sixteen hours to get there to make

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<v Speaker 5>sure we had a chop a preposition to cover the story, and.

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<v Speaker 7>We needed to.

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<v Speaker 5>Cyclones don't come this far south. They're not supposed to.

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<v Speaker 5>We've been hearing about the water being warmer than expected

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<v Speaker 5>and warmer than the Coral Sea, which is the reason

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<v Speaker 5>perhaps why it's hovered around and gone parallel to the

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<v Speaker 5>coast here. It's not unusual. It's not to say that

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<v Speaker 5>it's never happened before, but you don't normally expect to

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<v Speaker 5>be covering a cyclone in your back door when it

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<v Speaker 5>comes to the Gold Coast or southeast Queensland. With this

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<v Speaker 5>thing crossing the CB depot.

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<v Speaker 1>Good on your mate.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you in person tomorrow and we'll have you

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<v Speaker 2>on the show of course tomorrow night. We'll be there

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<v Speaker 2>all the way through everything over the next few days.

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<v Speaker 2>Thoughts by the way, and strength and love to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>who's on stratty, Bribe islands, lots of other areas that,

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<v Speaker 2>of course are going to be in the eye of

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<v Speaker 2>all of this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we are talking about it a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It is potentially a couple of days away anywhere from

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<v Speaker 2>Friday morning through to Saturday morning. But the effects of

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<v Speaker 2>it are real important and as easy going as Queensland

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<v Speaker 2>as our Please take it as seriously as it is

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<v Speaker 2>being suggested, it's not just a Queensland issue. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to the northern rivers of New South Wales, that northern

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<v Speaker 2>half that has already gone through so many problems when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to flooding and mates in Lismore and further north.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get the wall of that in a moment or

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<v Speaker 1>two time.

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<v Speaker 2>But back to the point I was making about the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister and why he's got to be very careful

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<v Speaker 2>about how he inserts himself into this thing. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a time when people don't want showboating. They're not interested

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<v Speaker 2>in any way, shape or form. That goes for the

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<v Speaker 2>media too, of course, which is why you keep your distance,

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<v Speaker 2>but you tell the story. Okay, that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>our plans, an opportunity for us to stand and do

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<v Speaker 2>silly things. It's again just to give information to people

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<v Speaker 2>and to be able to spread that news across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Prime Minister has to take it carefully. And

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<v Speaker 2>as I say, it's not a time for politicians, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a time for information, and if the politician is giving

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<v Speaker 2>information that should be the premiere or anything above that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a post game. But I'm sure I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be criticized for saying. So, here's the reality across the

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<v Speaker 2>country right now. The preferred prime Minister is not Anthony Arbernezi,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why he would, in the cynical part of things,

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<v Speaker 2>be hoping or the people around him, if I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be uncharitable to them, think there's an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>change this.

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<v Speaker 1>But have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 2>In Queensland, the preferred prime minister is well and truly

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton. Anthony Arbernesi doesn't even have a third of

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<v Speaker 2>the votes in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to.

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<v Speaker 2>Treat it very carefully in the next few days. As

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<v Speaker 2>for his job performance nationally, fifty six percent of people

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<v Speaker 2>say he's doing a poor or very poor job, sixty

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<v Speaker 2>percent in Queensland. As for the direction that the country

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<v Speaker 2>is heading, in a few more detail about some pollingd

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<v Speaker 2>that we got out of the turble times otherwise known

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<v Speaker 2>in the Garden Guddion via the Essential organization. When it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the right track the wrong track for both

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister and Peter Dutton to be fighting what

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be the early days of the election could

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<v Speaker 2>be well called this weekend. The expectation of it being

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<v Speaker 2>called maybe as late as Monday. Otherwise we're off to

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<v Speaker 2>a budget and then we are looking at something closer

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<v Speaker 2>to May rather than the April election. Forty nine percent

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<v Speaker 2>of Australian say we're headed in the wrong direction. Just

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<v Speaker 2>a third of people say that we are headed in

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<v Speaker 2>the right direction. And in terms of the number of

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<v Speaker 2>people who are certain about which way they're going to vote,

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<v Speaker 2>have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty two percent of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, bang lock me in, I'm done, So they've already

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<v Speaker 2>decided whether they're going team red, team blue, team yellow,

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<v Speaker 2>team team orange, whatever they're going to be. There is

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<v Speaker 2>the best part of thirty five percent of people who

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<v Speaker 2>say that they can change their mind, but have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at this. Thirteen percent of people say no decision

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<v Speaker 2>has been made yet. Put simply that forty seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people is of course where the election is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be fought. But once you start to dig down

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<v Speaker 2>into the information, we might be working out where these

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<v Speaker 2>people who haven't made any decision are hiding their votes

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to talking to the polls. Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>could be something that will surge labor when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to preferences and get them across the line. Probably not

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<v Speaker 2>as a majority government, but closer to a majority than

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else. Or if they're about to make a big

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<v Speaker 2>change and go to a minor party that will preference

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<v Speaker 2>the Libs or vote for the Libs, then obviously it

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be game over for the existing government.

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<v Speaker 1>But have a look.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the red line are the people who have not

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<v Speaker 2>made a decision yet yet. When they are telling posters

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<v Speaker 2>about whom they're going to vote for, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>they're hiding their vote right now in none of the above,

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<v Speaker 2>the independent or other parties. Now whether these are people

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<v Speaker 2>saying that they want to vote for a local teal

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<v Speaker 2>but in actual fact, twenty percent of them have made.

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<v Speaker 1>No decision yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of people are looking granularly at each

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<v Speaker 2>of the seats, and how many people are going to

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<v Speaker 2>go something other than the major parties, Well, twenty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of that vote hasn't even begun the process of making

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<v Speaker 2>a decision. Still the best part of what thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent should have warned the glasses tonight. Thirty eight percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people they say that they are flexible. But all

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<v Speaker 2>of that fascinating and important to watch now. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>if the news events don't help the Prime Minister, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what your money apparently will. One of the ways

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<v Speaker 2>that this government is able to keep flogging its bad

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<v Speaker 2>ideas is with your money via public information campaigns. The

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<v Speaker 2>longer you put off an election, the more of it

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<v Speaker 2>you can spend. Because, of course, while the taxpayer essentially

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<v Speaker 2>is paying for Labor Party advertising when you call an election,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Labour Party that has to pay well under

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<v Speaker 2>our team today because figures have revealed during Senate estimates

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<v Speaker 2>about seventy million dollars of advertising is in the future

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<v Speaker 2>made in Australia fund the supporting Australians and the Stage

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<v Speaker 2>three tax cuts, remember the two little too late. They've

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<v Speaker 2>still got seventy million bucks of all of what they promised,

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<v Speaker 2>which was about a quarter of a billion dollars still

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<v Speaker 2>to spend. The federal government spent thirty five and a

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<v Speaker 2>half million dollars talking about it's net zero transition twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two when it comes to its tax cuts, where again

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<v Speaker 2>plenty more to go, and promoting itself when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to cost of living.

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<v Speaker 1>So watch this space.

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<v Speaker 2>They use your money, which is why they put off

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<v Speaker 2>an election for as long as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, something that's probably not front of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about cyclones, it's not about elections, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is something that is I think part of the picture

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<v Speaker 2>about why certain crimes have taken off around the country

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<v Speaker 2>but are particularly focused in Victoria. I'm talking here about

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<v Speaker 2>illegal tobacco. Now, there has been an explosion in the

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<v Speaker 2>number of tobacco shops that are around the country. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>making no suggestion about the images of what we are

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<v Speaker 2>showing here, but that's an illustration, of course, of what

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<v Speaker 2>a tobacco shop will look like. Well, we learned this

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<v Speaker 2>week that actual illegal cigarettes or illegal tobacco products are

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<v Speaker 2>now overtaking the legal product. Sixty minutes apart from the

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<v Speaker 2>little tickle lego the Prime Minister, they did a fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>story about the world under Nick McKenzie where they were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how about ten years of excessive taxation which

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<v Speaker 2>has now made cigarettes so ludicrously expensive. Is part of

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<v Speaker 2>the problem here because the crap that comes in from overseas,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently with some support of the Chinese Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to that in a couple of days time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all of that, of course, it's becoming cheaper and

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<v Speaker 2>the better option for people because there's more places selling it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's fewer people actually checking if they're selling it, and

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<v Speaker 2>the taxes are too high.

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<v Speaker 10>What's concerning, though, is not only the level of violence,

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<v Speaker 10>but why this thuggery started in the first place. By

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<v Speaker 10>taxing cigarettes so exorbitantly in an attempt to stop people smoking,

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<v Speaker 10>what the government has inadvertently created is a thriving black

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<v Speaker 10>market worth five billion dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Also important to note here too, is that once the

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<v Speaker 2>illegal product, I mean, much of the attention that has

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<v Speaker 2>been made from multiple governments over multiple years, and remember

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<v Speaker 2>we're going right back to Rudguillard, Rudd into all of

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<v Speaker 2>the liberal governments into the current government that have been

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<v Speaker 2>constantly jacking up tobacco taxes. They've said that they're putting

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<v Speaker 2>all of the effort into stopping the tobacco getting into

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<v Speaker 2>the country. Well, clearly that's failing, because now more people

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<v Speaker 2>are smoking the illegal stuff than the legal stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that came out of that report

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<v Speaker 2>on sixty minutes is that once it gets here, basically

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<v Speaker 2>no one's tracking how it ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Up in one of your local smoke shops.

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<v Speaker 11>Once these products were past the border, then there was

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<v Speaker 11>really no one domestically who was capable and resourced to

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<v Speaker 11>address the distribution of the I listed product.

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<v Speaker 2>And Victoria Police agree with the idea that if taxes

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<v Speaker 2>have gone up so high that the product becomes so expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>then people start looking for the cheapest stuff that is

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<v Speaker 2>just as freely available.

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<v Speaker 10>Detective Superintendent Jason Kelly, head of Victoria's Anti Gang's Division,

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<v Speaker 10>He says the increase in the tax apply to tobacco

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<v Speaker 10>has inflamed the problem.

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<v Speaker 12>The gap between the illicit product and the legitimate product

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<v Speaker 12>is there is a fairly significant gap, and serious and

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.400
<v Speaker 12>organized crime leveraged off the fact that they can import

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<v Speaker 12>elicit tobacco and pay minimal amounts of money, which competes then,

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<v Speaker 12>of course, with legitimate packs of cigarettes and tobacco.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as you know, I am a smoker. Dumbest decision

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not about me trying to find some clever

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<v Speaker 2>way of talking about or promoting, but it's about a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation which is the government is addicted to the revenue

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<v Speaker 2>and the revenue is not having the effect that they wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>which was the higher the prices, the fewer the number

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 2>of smokers. So you end up with smokers who go

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 2>looking for cheaper products. Those are funding illegal gangs in

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<v Speaker 2>this country. So government will turn a and say we

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<v Speaker 2>want to keep the revenue, oh, but will go even

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<v Speaker 2>harder after stopping this stuff. The reality is we have

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<v Speaker 2>seen that it has not worked, that it does not work,

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<v Speaker 2>so there has to be a conversation about just how

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<v Speaker 2>high these taxes are. So people start moving back to

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<v Speaker 2>the legal product and we start to starve the money

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<v Speaker 2>of the illegal gangs. Let me show you all of

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<v Speaker 2>this now, since two thousand and five, over the past

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<v Speaker 2>say twenty years, there has been an ever growing amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money that the government takes through higher tobacco taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes from five to eight to expectations this year

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<v Speaker 2>of eleven billion dollars, more than double the amount that

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<v Speaker 2>they were taking twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So the logic was.

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<v Speaker 2>That all of the smokers will they would eventually give

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<v Speaker 2>up because of the price, but because of this crap

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<v Speaker 2>that's on the streets, they're not. These are the numbers

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<v Speaker 2>from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare. Three and

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<v Speaker 2>a half million smokers in two thousand and five and

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<v Speaker 2>no change, in fact, a slight increase over the past

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. So the price has gone up double double

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to taxes in the past twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>As you can see, in the past ten years, no

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<v Speaker 2>change in the number of people that the federal government

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<v Speaker 2>is counting as smokers. That means that the tax situation

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<v Speaker 2>is not the situation that will stop people smoking. We

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<v Speaker 2>need to bring down those taxes so people go back

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<v Speaker 2>to the legal product. Clearly that's the number that want

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<v Speaker 2>to smoke. That's their decision. We are all fools for

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 2>doing it. But someone somewhere is going to have.

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<v Speaker 1>To deal with this.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course it'llaw'll be too hard basket because anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who's talking about dropping tobacco taxes somehow will of course

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<v Speaker 2>be someone definitely trying to get the next generation of smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I just want the illegal gangs.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the suburbs because there are so many of

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<v Speaker 2>these smoke shops and the standover is happening in almost

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<v Speaker 2>every suburb in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs to change.

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<v Speaker 2>The big speech today from Donald Trump, I thought was fanning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was two hours. If you're not a Trump fan,

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you didn't like any of it. But if you are, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved every second of it, especially the suki suki Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>even when he was saying things like we are we've

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<v Speaker 2>introduced laws to make sure that people who are known

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:15.959
<v Speaker 2>criminals we booted out of the country. Such was their

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 2>hate for Trump, they couldn't get off their ass. No, no, no,

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.639
<v Speaker 2>they were playing to their very small little wedge. And

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of serious stuff, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>the Ukraine stuff, and there was trade war stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But this moment his old.

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<v Speaker 2>School USA Showbiz and signed me up for four years

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<v Speaker 2>of this baby.

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<v Speaker 13>Joining us, said the gallery. Tonight, there is a young

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<v Speaker 13>man who truly loves our police.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is DJ.

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<v Speaker 13>Daniel is thirteen years old and he has always dreamed

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<v Speaker 13>of becoming a police officer. But in twenty eighteen, DJ

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 13>was diagnosed with brain cancer. The doctors gave him five

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<v Speaker 13>months at most to live. That was more than six

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<v Speaker 13>years ago. And tonight, DJ, We're going to do you

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<v Speaker 13>the biggest honor of them all. I am asking our

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<v Speaker 13>new Secret Service Director Sean Curran to officially make you

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<v Speaker 13>an agent of the United States Secret Service.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's showbies, I know I love every second

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<v Speaker 2>of that. I really do as I do the local

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<v Speaker 2>mayors because they are the ones who are dealing with communities,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's talk to the ones in the northern part

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<v Speaker 2>of New South Wales right now. One is well known

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<v Speaker 2>to you, Steve Craig, of course, who is the Lismore mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>And joining us as well right now is Sharon Cordwalder,

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<v Speaker 2>who is the Balan mayors.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and nice to talk to you, Steve. I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>you in a second, but Sharon, let's deal with you first.

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<v Speaker 2>When this thing rolls down at some point, there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an impact on your community. What are the

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<v Speaker 2>preparations that have been happening in northern New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, Paul, we're absolutely prepared this time, unlike twenty twenty

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 14>two when we're absolutely caught out big time. The preparations

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 14>that have been in place are as good as they

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<v Speaker 14>can be. I think at this particular point in time,

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<v Speaker 14>obviously I'm anxious like everybody else in the community. It's

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 14>something that is unpredictable. We don't know, but then again

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 14>we're expecting a category two, not a three, four or five.

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<v Speaker 14>So yes, it could be worse. But we're not used

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<v Speaker 14>to dealing with cyclones either. We're used to dealing with floods.

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 14>And we've certainly got some learnings from the twenty twenty

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 14>two floods, but for us, we're not used to dealing

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 14>with high winds, scale force winds, and that's what we're

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 14>experiencing right now. And we've still got families in pod

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 14>villages and of course they were only built to withstand

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 14>one hundred kilometer winds and they are being evacuated. Caravan

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 14>parks are being evacuated as we speak. But we're a

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 14>resilient community. Hate that we're resilient, but we're strong. But

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 14>we're even stronger when we unite together, and that's what

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 14>we're doing right now. The volunteerism here is alive and well.

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 14>Makes me feel so proud that our community has banded

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<v Speaker 14>together to help one another. So it's absolutely fantastic to

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<v Speaker 14>see what's playing out here as we prepare for this

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 14>disaster that we just simply can't avoid.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on your shar and I'll keep you on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk to Steve about Lismore, because you've been uphill,

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 2>they've been downhill. There's plenty about preparation. Information matters, early

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 2>notice matters. Part of the kick in the backside A

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago was about the failure of information

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<v Speaker 2>before things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So how are you guys holding it?

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<v Speaker 11>Three years?

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<v Speaker 1>But too long? And I do have to call you

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<v Speaker 1>back about that other thing. I will.

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<v Speaker 4>Into it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, mate, there's a chakra of an audio line here, mate,

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>So I'll ask Sharon.

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<v Speaker 1>One more question.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll fix that up and then we'll go into the

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>full chat with Steve Sharon last one here. We've seen

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 2>things like the sandbag stuff that happens up in Southeast Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the sort of support that council offers community or

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<v Speaker 2>is it slightly different in New South Wales where these

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>things are offered by other people. What's Balana often offering

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<v Speaker 2>to its people.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, we must remember that the lead agent in all

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 14>of this is the ses. Yes, Balaner Council are there

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<v Speaker 14>to support the sees so DJC they are the stand

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 14>up agency for evacuation centers and certainly a lot of

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 14>community don't understand that that you know, in an emergency

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 14>they just need to ring Triple O one three two

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 14>five hundred for SS support and all those things. But

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<v Speaker 14>council is there as a support but.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't play the same role in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 2>that it does in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>That's important.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way things are ordered and organized, correct where

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it is the state government thing and yeah, Sees and Tripolo,

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the way to stay in toime.

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<v Speaker 14>And I must also say I think there's a lot

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 14>to be said for localized import and actions locally. I mean,

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 14>we have an Sees building here in Balin and that's

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 14>not fit for purpose. I've been trying to get a

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 14>new building for twenty five years and they were looking

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 14>at trying to evacuate because the roof's likely to blow off.

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 14>It's an old caretakers cottage from about fifty years ago

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 14>that they operate out of, and so they were looking

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 14>to evacuate to the ballin of golf club.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's yeah, I mean, that's acutely I can wederstand this.

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>That's clearly madness, the idea that multiple premiers prime ministers

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 2>have rolled through and that's still the case. All right,

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>thank you, Shan. We'll talk to you again a little

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 2>further down the track. I've got a feeling probably this

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 2>time tomorrow and again on Sunday. All right, Steve, all

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>do you makee talk about Lismore, Hay holding up. What

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 2>are you doing to get ready?

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 8>Liz Moore is doing its best that it can to

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 8>get ready. Paul, it's only three years since we're fourteen

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 8>and a half meters underwater, and you couldn't get more

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 8>bad news if you tried to be honest with you.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 8>People are tired, they're exhausted. It's been three years of recovery.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 8>We're really only at the start of our recovery process,

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 8>and this is the worst case scenario for Lismon, to

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 8>be honest with you, but we're holding in there. We're

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 8>hoping that worst case doesn't come to fruition. But you know,

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 8>we just have to wait and see if the weather

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 8>is in our favor. If we don't get the rain

0:30:55.240 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 8>that's forecast, will be okay. But yeah, forecast at the

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 8>moment is possibly the lever the levee over topping. And

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 8>if that's the case, we're in a lot of trouble

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 8>because people are exhausted. We've spent three years in recovery

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 8>and rebuilding, and yeah, to be honest with you, mate,

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if our community can back up and

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 8>do it again.

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Because also what Sharon was mentioning. Obviously there's a lot

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>of people who were nowhere near the homes that they

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>were pushed out of a couple of years ago. And

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>as you're barely holding on and as you say, you're

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 2>still at the start of a process. All right, Yeah,

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 2>the media moves on, the beat moves on, but the

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>disaster and the rebuild does not. How much concerned do

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>you have if you've got just massive wins about the

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 2>people that are still living in pretty temporary accommodation.

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 8>Oh, it's how to be honest with you. It is

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 8>mine and our community's biggest concern is people's health and safety.

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 8>Some people are taking this really seriously and started an

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 8>evacuation process and their flood plan management on Monday in

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 8>bright sunshine and no winds. You may or may not

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 8>be able to hear behind. I'm in a color bond

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 8>roof building and it's pouring outside at the moment. Some

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 8>people started this afternoon their evacuation process, and other people

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 8>don't believe that they're in any sort of danger. So

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 8>you know, there is that messaging shortfall to be honest

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 8>with you about it, may or may not overtop the levee.

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 8>We don't know exactly how high it's going to be.

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 8>We've got all of these new rain gages and flood

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 8>high gauges that we've installed since twenty twenty two, but

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 8>still really no clearer about where we're going to be

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 8>this time in two days.

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<v Speaker 1>That is mad. Were going to stay in touch, mat.

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a call. I do promise in the

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>next twenty four hours. Thank you, mate, all of this

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>said that to me before I know. That's what I'm

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>saying to your champion. Now I'm on TV, so you

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>can smack me right around the head with it. Thank you, mate.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll get back here a second. All right, thank you Steve.

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Steve Craig, who is the mayor of liz Moore, laur right,

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>quick break back with more. We are going to be

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>all across this for the most obvious of reasons, because

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<v Speaker 2>we love for so many of the people who watch

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<v Speaker 2>us on Sky News Regional are they watch us for free,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>they watch us on Foxtel. They're so passionate when we

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<v Speaker 2>do our towns. So it's our time, our turn to

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<v Speaker 2>return the favor with our full attention. All right, let

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<v Speaker 2>us move on to the day's politics and Bromwin Bishop

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<v Speaker 2>versus Stephen Conroy.

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<v Speaker 1>What could possibly go wrong or right?

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<v Speaker 2>More in effect, thank you so much for watching, joining

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<v Speaker 2>us now, Bromwin Bishop, the carry out a champ as

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<v Speaker 2>always on a Wednesday night. She's here, the former Speaker

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 2>of the House, the man who turns up because he's

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<v Speaker 2>just here to help and challenge. But Jess falls that

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<v Speaker 2>one little bit short. Sadly, that's the way it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Conroy. I'm sorry the score key, because they're very

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<v Speaker 2>fair on this program, very fair as you know. All

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>right now, big bit of economic news today, and I'm

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>not going to let it pass because I think that

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>in terms of people's feelings it's going to be a

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>little more significant even than the interest rate drop. And

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that is the per capita recession ended apparently today twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one months, multiple quarters. But Bromwin, obviously there are the

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 2>figures that come out of camera versus the reality of

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>real life. Cost of living is the absolute front and center.

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<v Speaker 2>None of that's going to change no matter how many

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<v Speaker 2>times the Prime Minister wants to parade around over the

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 2>next few days or change the subject to medicare. But

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<v Speaker 2>at least an indicy suggests slightly better.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, here's the problem. You've had seven quarters of going backwards.

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 6>Now you've got one that marginally ticks up. And the

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 6>treasure says, hell are lunar. We're adding your self landing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, he can enjoy your self landing because I don't

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 6>think he's got too many people with him. If you

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:02.399
<v Speaker 6>are ask the average person in the street, are they

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<v Speaker 6>feeling any better or are they just feeling worse off

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 6>under this government?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the house you get.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just know when I go into the supermarket,

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 6>what I end up getting in my trolley for a

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 6>huge amount of money is getting less and less. And

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<v Speaker 6>I've used the example before. I use my example of

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 6>the bendmin index. Used to pay five dollars for my

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 6>size this big. Now it's seven dollars thirty and it

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 6>hasn't gone down, and it's just not going to go down.

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 6>And so that's just indicative of so many items on

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 6>the shelf. Yes, you'll get a movement in things like

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 6>an Iceberg lettuce. You can get it for two dollars forty,

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 6>but then the next time will be three.

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Dollars fifty exactly.

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 6>So you'll get those movements. But bottom line is people

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 6>are still thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and this is the thing, Stephen, where I know

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 2>that the people who are going to push that everything is.

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<v Speaker 1>Better, the worst of it is all over.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine if you've got a personal cushion, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>I showed earlier in the week the polling that was

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<v Speaker 2>there when it came to the people who were comfortable

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 2>versus difficulties and financial difficulties and their sense of the

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>country and the right or the wrong direction, and obviously

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 2>people that are really in trouble the wrong directions up

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 2>into the seventies right, as opposed to the people doing

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>it okay, Like frankly most of the people who will

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 2>be talking about this stuff publicly or certainly the politicians,

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and they're back down towards the forty. I know, turning

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.919
<v Speaker 2>a corner is always turning a corner, but if people

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually feel it in their life, good luck telling

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<v Speaker 2>me we've turned a corner.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I think that's dad right. Some of the points

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<v Speaker 7>from we made were also spot on.

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 2>The show's done Reagon in our time, we're done for

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the election. I'll just play that grab over and over write, Stephen.

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<v Speaker 7>But which is why I don't think you're seeing the

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<v Speaker 7>government doing any victory lapse. I think the government would

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<v Speaker 7>raw confident that their strategy, as hard as as it's been,

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 7>as at least going in the right direction. But I

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<v Speaker 7>can't imagine that Albow Jim will be doing any victory

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 7>lapse trying to pretend that it's better than it is.

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<v Speaker 7>People have been doing it tough for you know, a

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<v Speaker 7>year or two.

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<v Speaker 15>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>These are positive signs, but they're not changing people's lives overnight,

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 7>which is why I think the sort of the modest,

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 7>you know, noting of these things is the absolutely appropriate

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 7>way that Jim and Alba have been behaving today in

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<v Speaker 7>the last few days.

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<v Speaker 1>Its interest right.

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<v Speaker 7>No one said, hey, that said the election's over with,

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 7>wine got back on track. There's none of that in

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 7>the governments because I think you're bright. Both would be

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 7>right that the government will get a terrible flogging if

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<v Speaker 7>they tried to go down that path.

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<v Speaker 6>But Stephen, you've got the treasury and a snake jum.

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 6>He continually says, Look, everything's wonderful, wages it up and

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 6>we're beating inflation and everything's on. I'm just doing such a.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job here.

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<v Speaker 6>You've got to be terribly grateful for me and re

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 6>elect me, and by the way, I'll be the next leader.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 6>So just just watch this space.

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's out and about basically campaigning in the

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:12.320
<v Speaker 2>middle of this storm.

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>To watch himself.

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<v Speaker 6>It's he's it's an illusion. He just sells an illusion

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 6>and people don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 7>Stephen, No, I don't. I don't think that it's an illusion.

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 7>I think what Bronwin described as what Jim's saying as well,

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 7>I'll be gentle over egging what Jim has been saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, man, it's election season. What did you bring

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 2>the gloves? You bring the knuckles to this fight?

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<v Speaker 1>I've got We've got five more weeks to go. I

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 1>gotta save.

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<v Speaker 6>I got to say, don't early, Steve, You're going to

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 6>have to explain some terribly unexplainable stuff al off the line.

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, it'll be fun between now and then. All right, now,

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about Trump and his speech today again. I

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 2>focused on on the sort of theatrical note. And look,

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. Every state of the Union, from those

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>who didn't vote for the person or like the person,

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 2>you can say, well, hang on, there's this bit. All

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.760
<v Speaker 2>of that's true, right, but Trump clearly was about trying

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>to sort of pack a whack of the sense of

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<v Speaker 2>confidence in the United States. Here in parties what he said.

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<v Speaker 13>Six weeks ago, I stood beneath the dome of this

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<v Speaker 13>Capitol and proclaimed the dawn of the Golden Age of America.

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 13>From that moment dawn, there's been nothing but swift and

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 13>unrelenting action to usher in the greatest and most successful

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<v Speaker 13>era in the history of our country. We have accomplished

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 13>more in forty three days than most administrations accomplished in four.

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<v Speaker 1>Years or eight years. And we are just getting started.

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Steve and I was watching the full two hours punching

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 2>the sky. My missus had to eventually leave the room,

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 2>going I've had enough, I'm out.

0:39:58.840 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>So I get it.

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<v Speaker 7>But still, uh, you have such a wive's wife.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you What did you think of it?

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<v Speaker 7>Look, look, I think it was just yeah, vintage Trump.

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 7>It didn't it didn't change a view. I think you're right.

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 7>You know, you're a vote for him and you like

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 7>him and you like what he said today, or you're

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 7>voted against him, you hate him and you.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Didn't like what he had to say.

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 7>But while I think he certainly made an impact on

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 7>the global stage, you know, sucking up to Putin, delivering

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 7>Putin's agenda, pretending he's about peace when you kind of

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 7>peace without security. I think that's the challenge, and that

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 7>continues to be the key challenge. And you know, I

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 7>wouldn't want to be a Ukrainian says oh, I can

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 7>rely on Donald Trump because then we've got a contract

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 7>with him to dig up our minerals. Someone else, maybe

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 7>named Putin, could come wondering, take control and say, yep,

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 7>just keep digging. Uh So I wouldn't accept there's an

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 7>implicit becau We've got people digging up our minds. I

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 7>think that is the most fundamental thing that Trump has

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 7>to deliver. And then he is in a position to

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 7>demand that Zelenski do much more to reach a page

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 7>to al. But that is a key part.

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<v Speaker 6>But Stephen, I think the way he finished the question

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 6>of the letter of regret, shall we say, for behavior

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 6>in the Oval office when he overstepped the mark. And

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 6>I do think he overstepped the mark on that occasion.

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 6>But he knows, and Trump knows that he has to

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 6>get that deal through, and I think the way he

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 6>dealt with it in his speech was quite masterful, and

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.320
<v Speaker 6>I like Paul, I watched it all and I thoroughly

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 6>enjoyed it, as you would expect me to do. So

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<v Speaker 6>the line I think I like the best was when

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 6>he said we had in this Congress the question being

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 6>asked of us, we need more resources, We need more

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 6>of this and more of this to close the border,

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 6>and he said, oh, we ever needed. Really was just

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:06.240
<v Speaker 6>a new.

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>President best line for the country.

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 6>It was justin Barber's line. But the other thing that

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 6>stuck in my mind was the contrast between the speech

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 6>he made of the state of the Union when Nancy

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 6>Pelosi at the end tore up his speech. That was

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 6>the worst behavior I have ever.

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Seen, but also mean, Look, you know, you guys have

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 2>won elections, lost elections. You've been told by you know,

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 2>people like me on TV. Oh they'll never co all

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 2>of that, right, but obviously that you know, tide comes in,

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 2>tide comes out, right, Stephen.

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>The Democrats were ridiculous today.

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>When we're not standing for anything, including the really obvious stuff. Okay,

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 2>they're going to sit there and try and do their bit,

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 2>but they looked so childish. And I know that they think, well,

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Trump's childish, but I'll tell you what you won. They

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 2>won zero people who voted for Trump. Thinking about empowering them,

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>What did you think of sort of the student politics

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of holding up bingo signs?

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 5>That was pathetic.

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 7>I think if you compare the behavior of you know,

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 7>Lauren Bobbert last State of the Union and Marjorie Taylor Green,

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:23.320
<v Speaker 7>and they're just screaming abuse, that's Joe Biden. So I think, unfortunately,

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 7>unfortunately they're the theater of these things are becoming a

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 7>little absurd, and people need to win the vote on

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 7>the ground. And I don't know that anything happened from

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 7>anyone major Taley, Green or Bobbert or these these democrats

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 7>today make any difference out there in voter land.

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's important thing, a lot of difference, I do.

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 6>I think it was a very very powerful speech and

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 6>it certainly will play well.

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Good stuff. Thank you guys, do appreciate it.

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>We're going to get out of here because the one

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 2>of them, Me and Kelly in the United States is next.

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:04.439
<v Speaker 2>It is our favorite time of the week to speak

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 2>to our favorite person in the world of water well,

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Megan Kelly and surprise, surprise, After everything that people were

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 2>carrying on a bad last week.

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Things are coming back.

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Trump's why when it comes to Ukraine and Zelenski.

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 15>Could you believe what happened in the Oval Office of right,

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 15>it was one of those things we were like, what

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 15>a right, the emotions, it was incredible, And honestly, I'm

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 15>thrilled because I just feel like, look, I wish it

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 15>hadn't happened. I wish they'd just it had gone well

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 15>and they had signed the minerals deal that day. But

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 15>something about it works, which is Trump reminding the world

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 15>he's really not to be trifled with, Like it's not

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 15>all bluster. He will cut your meeting short and kick

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 15>you out of the White House if you're not a

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 15>good person, if you don't behave well. And so if

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 15>he's willing to do that to a friend, I think

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 15>what he would do to it enemy. I actually just

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 15>think it's a good message, like he really is the

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 15>strong man that he purports to be. But if you

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 15>look at that whole forty minutes that preceded the big moment,

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 15>he was a perfect gentleman. Kept getting antagonized, the eye rolling,

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<v Speaker 15>the size, the interruptions from Zelenski, who has no bargaining power,

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<v Speaker 15>and really should be in a supplicant position toward the

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<v Speaker 15>United States, and Trump kept us cool and finally blew

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<v Speaker 15>and now we're going to get the deal that we wanted.

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<v Speaker 15>Only Zelenski's less powerful, with less bargaining power, and has

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<v Speaker 15>humiliated himself. So it wasn't a smart move by Zelenski.

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<v Speaker 15>Trump handled himself just fine. And I think this thing

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<v Speaker 15>will get wrapped up because there's no place to go.

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<v Speaker 15>There's no place for the negotiation to land that's better

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<v Speaker 15>than the deal Trump is proposing.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think a really big thing that happened to die,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot happened to die, was that the company

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<v Speaker 2>that makes little micro chips that are important for competing

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<v Speaker 2>now and into the future, they're going to spend one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred billion dollars making stuff in the United States. Companies

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<v Speaker 2>like Apple and Honda have now moved they're ops back

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<v Speaker 2>to the US. It's about a trillion and a half

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<v Speaker 2>dollars worth of investments. Baden couldn't even get a trillion

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<v Speaker 2>in four years.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, and Trump's doing very well with that so far.

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<v Speaker 15>We'll see. It takes a while for these chips manufacturing

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<v Speaker 15>plants to be built, and so that's not going to

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<v Speaker 15>be like a turnkey operation, but we're going to need

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<v Speaker 15>to do that. And the Taiwanese have all the reason

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<v Speaker 15>in the world to try to please the United States

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<v Speaker 15>of America because obviously they're very worried about what China

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<v Speaker 15>is going to do to them, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 15>be a whole other fight that we're probably going to

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<v Speaker 15>be looking at over the next four years, because I

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<v Speaker 15>don't think the American people have the appetite to fight

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<v Speaker 15>a war against China anymore than they do to fight

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<v Speaker 15>one against Russia. And you know, you could make the

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<v Speaker 15>case that China's got its rights to Taiwan are much

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<v Speaker 15>greater than Putin's were to Ukraine. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 15>that's going to be a great foreign policy area over

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<v Speaker 15>the next four years. But I love the investment, and

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<v Speaker 15>that's what Trump's doing over and over look, I don't

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<v Speaker 15>think he's trying to punish Canada and Mexico with these

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<v Speaker 15>tariffs just for the sake of it. I really do

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<v Speaker 15>think he's got a couple of goals. He does feel

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<v Speaker 15>like we've been made chumps of because there's such a

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<v Speaker 15>trade imbalance with other countries that are so called friends.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, people say, why.

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<v Speaker 10>Would you do this?

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<v Speaker 15>You our friends, Well, our friends are pouring fentanyl across

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<v Speaker 15>the border at record numbers. Our friends are killing our kids.

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<v Speaker 15>It's the number one cause of death. Ventanyl's the number

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<v Speaker 15>one cause of death for young people in America. What

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<v Speaker 15>kind of a friend keeps supplying the thing that's causing

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<v Speaker 15>the death over and over and over and over. No,

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<v Speaker 15>that's not a friend. Why should we treat them like

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<v Speaker 15>they are?

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<v Speaker 9>So?

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<v Speaker 15>Trump is telegraphing to both our neighbor to the south

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<v Speaker 15>and north, we're serious about this. You will get the

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<v Speaker 15>fentanyl from crossing to stop crossing our border, or you

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<v Speaker 15>will be punished, and any trade imbalances which are long

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<v Speaker 15>pass due to be addressed will be now. And what

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<v Speaker 15>we saw on Trump one point zero was he said

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<v Speaker 15>he's going to do that with China, and he did

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<v Speaker 15>slap a tariff on China. Tariffs, and they lost their

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<v Speaker 15>heads on the left. And then when Biden took over,

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 15>they were working so well.

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<v Speaker 10>He kept them. He kept them.

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<v Speaker 15>Just Trump comes back in office, they're still in place,

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<v Speaker 15>and Trump's like, they work so well. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 15>slap another ten percent on China and let's make it

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<v Speaker 15>twenty five on Canada and Mexico, and I do believe

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<v Speaker 15>it will change behaviors, and I do believe there will

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<v Speaker 15>be some short term pain for some industries in America,

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<v Speaker 15>but that if it gets unbearable or too bad, Trump

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<v Speaker 15>will do something. He's not just going to let the

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<v Speaker 15>American farmer with her on the vine and close up shop.

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<v Speaker 10>That's not Trump.

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<v Speaker 15>Those are, in part the communities that largely helped elect him.

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<v Speaker 15>So I think we should trust in Trump. He's he

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<v Speaker 15>was elected to try new and different things, and that's

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<v Speaker 15>what he's doing. And I think we should trust in

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<v Speaker 15>him to be nimble enough if something gets too bad

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<v Speaker 15>and he believes it's actually not working, to change it.

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<v Speaker 13>All.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Let's go to the shallow end of the pond.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Anora your favorite movie of the year. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the movie about prostitutes that won Best Picture?

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was I thought, you know who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to love this, Megan Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see you and your beautiful boy Doug sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on the couch watching it over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best picture, mate, Sure.

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<v Speaker 15>And I sat down with my thirteen year old daughter

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<v Speaker 15>and I said, honey, it's sex worker. She's a sex worker.

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<v Speaker 15>This is absolutely fine. You can be a tech worker,

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<v Speaker 15>you can be an industrial worker, you can be a

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<v Speaker 15>healthcare worker, you can be a sex worker. It's totally

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 15>up to you, sweetheart. They're all equally empowering choices. The

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<v Speaker 15>whole thing was an exercise in these preening, self important

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 15>celebrities who really don't have anything interesting to say, and

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<v Speaker 15>then the other half who knew that about themselves so

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<v Speaker 15>just showed up naked. That's really what we got on

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<v Speaker 15>Hollywood's Biggest night.

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff, Megan. We'll see you again next week.

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<v Speaker 15>All right, see you, pall bye?

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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