1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: I guess what I've taken from Love on the Spectrum 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: is that it was a bit of an opportunity to 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show the wall that people in the spectrum just want 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: to be loved and accepted like everybody else. Yeah, is 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: that so much? 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: Hi? Everyone, welcome back to Hotter than Yesterday with me. Today, 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: we have a really really exciting guest on the podcast. 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: It's actually been one of my dream guests to have on. 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: He is one of my favorite reality TV stars. We 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: have Michael Theo from Love on the Spectrum. If you 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: guys don't know much about Love and the Spectrum, it 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: is a reality TV show on Netflix which focuses on 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: the romantic lives of young adults on the autism spectrum. 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: This has captured the hearts of so many Australians and 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 2: so many people worldwide. He has really become a global sensation. 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: He has amazing little quirks and personalities where the it's 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: his love for trains or movies. He has such an 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: inspiring story. Doctors actually thought that he would never be 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: able to speak and he has defied all odds and 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: I was so excited to have him on the podcast today. 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: So I can't wait for you guys to listen and 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: welcome Michael Theo on too hotter than yesterday. Well, Michael, 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me in today. How 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: are you How are you going? 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm doing well? Thanks? 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: You are so you caught the train up from where 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: your hometown is all the way to Sydney. Ye? How 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: was that? 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: The train? Ship? Was all right? It's something too special 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: because I've done it numerous times for the past like 31 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: three years, and. 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: So some people might not know exactly who you are. 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: Could you explain who you are and what you want 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: people to know about you? 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: Sure? My name is Michael Theo. I was the breakout 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: star of Love on the Spectrum lead actor in Austin, 37 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: playing the title character. 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm an autism consultant, aspect ambassador of Waybule, which is 40 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: a dating app for people on the Spectrum, a future 41 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: children's book author. You are yeah, yes, and a podcaster 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: as well. 43 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: What made you want to go on Love on the 44 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: Spectrum more? How did Love and the Spectrum come about 45 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: for you? 46 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: I'll explain. I used to be a client of an 47 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: employment agency called at Work Australia. They used to be 48 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: called ES Central Personnel back in Woollongong. This is like 49 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: six years ago, in twenty nineteen. I told my case 50 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: manager that I wanted to get out there meet new 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: people and all that make new friends. And then all 52 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: the pictures was contacting various employment agencies, including at work, 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: and I well, they recommended me for it, and when 54 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: I heard about it, I called them back numerous times 55 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: because I was so eager to be part of it. 56 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: For only one reason. I didn't see it as a 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: chance to become famous. I saw it as a golden 58 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to help me find a girlfriend, because that was 59 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: what I want at the time. Even though I didn't 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: find a girlfriend back then, I actually have Do. 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: You have a girlfriend? 62 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Yes? 63 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: Wow? Does the public know about your girlfriend? 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: Not the whole world? 65 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 2: No? Right? How long have you been together. 66 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: For We've been together for almost seven months? 67 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: Wow? And did you meet on the show? 68 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: No? 69 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: No? How did you meet her? 70 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: She works as an admin assistant at a certain building 71 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: in Ultimo Right, very nice. I'm not going to name 72 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: the company because that's private information. 73 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you take her on a first date? How 74 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: did you start dating? 75 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: I was at this place to do a full day 76 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: of publicity for Austin last year. Yeah, and I was 77 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: in the foyer of this building and I glanced to 78 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: the left and then spotted her walking by, and we 79 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: started talking. It's because I'd seen photos of her before, 80 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: because she reacted to every post and story I ever 81 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: placed on socials. 82 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: Ah, so she knew who you were before, and she 83 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: kind of was pioneering after you. Yes, and then you 84 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: saw her in real life and you were. 85 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I like her. And I asked her if 86 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: she was interested in having a date with me, and 87 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: she says she think it over. 88 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: Oh, she was playing a bit hard to get. 89 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: I actually like her. When women do that, Oh, you 90 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: do because it makes me It makes me want to 91 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: work for them. 92 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: Yes. Wow, very gentlemanly of you. And where did you 93 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: take her on your first date? 94 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: Actually it was in a food court at Westfield Broadway 95 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: because she just finished work that day. 96 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: Oh, so it was very quick. 97 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 98 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: Wow. 99 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Even on the first date there was summer affection. 100 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: WHOA, that's moving fast. Well did you kiss on the 101 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: first day. 102 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, things were serious from the beginning. 103 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: And you've been together ever since. 104 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Well, we start at our first date in July and 105 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: then had several more and then in October that's when 106 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: I asked her to be my girlfriend. 107 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so you moved a little slowly after that to 108 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 2: make it official, make sure she was the one for you. 109 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 110 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: And is it your first serious relationship yep. 111 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: My first ever? Wow, because prior to her, I never 112 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: had a girlfriend. 113 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: Right. Do your family like her? 114 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: Yep? They seem to approve of her. 115 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: Where's the best date you've been on with her? 116 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Hmm? There have been plenty of places that we've had 117 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: great dates. There would be the Tramway Museum in Loftus 118 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: and then also taking her to dinner at Centerpointe Tower 119 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: in Sydney. I actually did that. We actually had dinner 120 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: there to celebrate her fortieth birthday. 121 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 122 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: So thus she's older than. 123 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: Me, so she's a bit of a cougar. 124 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say cougar. 125 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's what you call people that date people that 126 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: are younger of them. 127 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: That's typical. But the thing is, I actually have a 128 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: bit of a preference for older women. Why is because 129 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: what I'm about to say is my perception and not 130 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: based on facts. But this is what I believe to 131 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: be true, but there's no research behind it. Women who 132 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: are older are generally more intelligent, more mature, They're more 133 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: sure of themselves, they know what they want. Their tastes 134 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: in men is more refined, and they don't care so 135 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: much about frivolous things, and they're more content to settle down. 136 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: Yes, So would you say because I'm young that I'm 137 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: not very intelligent? 138 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't judge that quickly. 139 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm just playing with you. 140 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: I'm just stating my own opinions, not facts. 141 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: I think just with life experience. As people get older, 142 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: they become more refined in who they are, maybe a 143 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: bit solid with who they are exactly. And that's probably 144 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: why you might like an older woman. Yes, because how 145 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: old are you? I'm thirty one, you're thirty one, So 146 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: she's nine years older than you. 147 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And thus it's because I have a stronger preference 148 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 1: for women compared to girls. 149 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: Oh, Michael said it. How it is like I like 150 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: men not boys. Yeah, but it's hard out here. 151 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: Yes, I know. 152 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: What do you see on your girlfriend that you were 153 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: looking for? Why did she stand out to you? 154 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: That is actually a bit hard to answer. 155 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 156 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: As we dated, I slowly began to see that she's 157 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: a very easy going person and she never finds anything 158 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: to come plain about. 159 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: That's really good, that's really just fine. 160 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: Yes, I know. And it's also like a breath of 161 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: fresh air. 162 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm a bit of a complaint of myself. 163 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, but don't you think it's a little 164 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: bit unnecessary to complain about things when there's not really 165 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: much to complain about. 166 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but sometimes just things get on your nerves, you know, 167 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: and you can't help her. 168 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I know. 169 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm quite a picky person, even with food. Yes, 170 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: I'm very picky with food. Oh boy, Yeah, I don't 171 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: feel I feel like you'd get annoyed by me very quickly. 172 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: Yes, well I'm already taken. 173 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's all right. I will respect your girlfriend, Michael, 174 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: you're a taken man. That's that's fine with me. 175 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 1: But I find it better. It's it's a lot better 176 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: and more meaningful to be a committed man than having 177 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: meaningless in a course with hundreds of young women. 178 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: Completely agree, because. 179 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: That kind of life has no substance. 180 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: Exactly, Winny, More men like you, More people need to 181 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: have the morals and stuff that you do. 182 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I was raised to be a gentleman. 183 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: Well, that's a testament to your parents then. 184 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, very good and also because I actually 185 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: would rather be more considerate of the feelings of the woman. 186 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: Yes, well that's very good. So obviously you didn't find 187 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: love on Love on the Spectrum, but you found love 188 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: outside of the show. Since the show has been on air, 189 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: you've become a fan favorite. I definitely you are one 190 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: of my favorite people on the show. Did you expect 191 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: people to connect with you as much as you have 192 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: and like get the publicity that you kind of have 193 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: been receiving. 194 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it at all, and neither did my family. 195 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: Right to do you get recognized or not a lot? 196 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Yep? It's very frequent yep. 197 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: But do you like it? 198 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Yep? I do. And when people ask me for selfies, 199 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: I always allow it because it puts smile on their 200 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: face and it makes their day exactly, and also because 201 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: not every celebrity is comfortable with that. Yes, And because 202 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: these people and mine and love your work so much, 203 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: the least you can do is just give them a 204 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: moment of time. 205 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: Completely. I one hundred percent agree with you. What's something 206 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: that you've really really learned from the show that you 207 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: like to tell people or give out into the world. Like, 208 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: what's something that you've taken from being on the show? 209 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: I guess what I've taken from Love and the Spectrum 210 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: is that it was a bit of an opportunity to 211 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: show the world that people in the spectrum just want 212 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: to be loved and accepted like everybody else. Yeah, is 213 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: that so much? 214 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: No? 215 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: Not at all. 216 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: No. And do you think that from Love and the 217 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: Spectrum people have had a greater understanding of autism. 218 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: Well, it has contributed to it, but yeah, I haven't 219 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: really noticed if it's made the biggest difference in the world. 220 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: But whatever difference is made, I'll give credit to it. 221 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you feel still feel judged by other people 222 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: or do you ever feel have you ever felt judged 223 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: for being yourodiverse and struggling with autism in day to 224 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: day life? 225 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: No, I have never felt judged. 226 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: That's good. 227 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: And I don't feel judged day to day life. 228 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: That's good. But you said before before we were recording 229 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: that sometimes that employment with people with autism has been really, 230 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 2: really tough, and you try to advocate for that. In 231 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: what way do people not really adjust in society with 232 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: people with autism? 233 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: It's because some employers are afraid to employ people with autism, 234 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: and I don't even know why employers should give people 235 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: a chance for employment because they also want to have 236 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: a purpose to fulfill in life as well. Plus we 237 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: all need to make a living, don't we exactly? 238 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: And do you think that you've become a role model 239 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: since being on the show for. 240 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: That, Yes, I would say that I have, and I 241 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: take that very seriously, which is why that when Austin 242 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: was in production, before we started filming the first season, 243 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: I made it very clear that I didn't want Austin 244 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: to be a stereotype of autism, because there have been 245 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: some autistic characters on screen that have been a stereotype 246 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: ever in the past. 247 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. And do you think that that's a big thing 248 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: that likes a big misconception about autism. 249 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I would say that there still is, Yeah, like 250 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: not being able to show emotion or feel love. 251 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you guys almost feel it more. 252 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 253 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 254 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: But also when I was in high school, I was 255 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: marginalized by some of my peers for my year. 256 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 257 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't remember who exactly, but because this was like 258 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: over ten years ago, but it just kind of still 259 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: bothers me as well. 260 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what was growing up and feeling like you're 261 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: a bit of an outcast in society. What was that 262 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: like for you? Was it really hard? 263 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: It was hard at times. Yeah, but I still had 264 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: friends regardless. 265 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: That's good. 266 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just that the people that were in my 267 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: year at high school just didn't know how to interact 268 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: with people on the spectrum. It was the two thousands. 269 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't socially or publicly accepted back then. 270 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you always kind of known that you were 271 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: a little bit different from other people or yes? Yeah? 272 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: In primary school, I knew that I felt different from 273 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: the other kids, but I just didn't know why. Until 274 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: when I was thirteen. My mother told me that I 275 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: had asperges. I know that term is not used anymore, 276 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: but that's what I was diagnosed with. It's a mold 277 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: branch of autism. Autism is a spectrum, yes, like an umbrella. 278 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 279 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: The reason why mum explained it to me at the 280 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: age of thirteen is because if I was if you 281 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: explained it to me when I was younger, I probably 282 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have understood what that meant. 283 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, when your mom kind of explained that to you, 284 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: did it help you understand why you felt a little 285 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: bit different to other kids. 286 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: Yes, it did help me understand, Yeah, why I was 287 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: different to others. 288 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: If someone came up to you and said, I'd like, oh, 289 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: my son's just got diagnosed with autism, Like, how do 290 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: I make him feel accepted or feel loved? Because I 291 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: feel like sometimes people can then almost judge themselves or 292 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: judge other people for having that. How would you explain 293 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 2: that to them to make them feel confident in maybe 294 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: their diagnosis. 295 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: What I would probably say to their parents and the 296 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: person that was diagnosed, I would probably say to them, 297 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: all you need to do is just ask them what 298 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: you can do to accommodate them, and just encourage them, 299 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: love them and support them in the best way you can, 300 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: because that's what parents do. 301 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 302 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: And with your peers, just give the time, they'll come around. 303 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. And what are maybe some things that people can do? 304 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: As you said that, more workplaces need to be accommodating 305 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: to people with autism, and maybe people at schools need 306 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: to be like with their classmates, more accommodating. What could 307 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: other people do to be more accommodating for people with autism? 308 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: The best things they could do to accommodate them is 309 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: install some kind of quiet room where there's no noise whatsoever. Yeah, 310 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: and also if they have sensory sensory issues to lights, 311 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: the lights should probably be as dim as possible, but 312 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: not too dark, and that always has to be at 313 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: the lowest minimum. And those people who are on the 314 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: spectrum should never be judged for it, No, not at all. 315 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: They're capable of doing tasks for themselves and loving others. 316 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: They're just wired differently completely, but they still want to 317 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: be loved and accepted and valued like everybody else. 318 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: Everyone deserves to be loved as well. How can we 319 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: be better friends or better people? And how do you 320 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: want to be treated? 321 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: The best things that neurotypicals can do for their for 322 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: their neuro diverse friends is cut them some slack a little, 323 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: but also make time for them even when you are busy, 324 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: because not many people do these days. But also there's 325 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: an other piece of advice that people need to remember. 326 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Hold on to your friends because friendship is a treasure 327 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: and I consider my friends like a second family. But 328 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: probably the saddest thing about friendship is you never really 329 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: know if your friends value as much as you value them, 330 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: and if you find out that they don't, it's hurtful. 331 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. So would you say maybe like words of affirmation 332 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: and telling your friends that you really care and appreciate 333 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: for them makes them feel more welcome and accepted maybe. 334 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, yeah, that would be helpful. 335 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we just need to share the love a 336 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: little more exactly. Do you know the love languages? 337 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Yep? 338 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,359 Speaker 2: So we have five love languages? 339 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: Yes, words of affirmation, acts of service, gift, giving all 340 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: your time, and physical touch? 341 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: Perfect? What are your love languages? What do you like 342 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: your girlfriend to do for you in. 343 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: Terms of giving or receiving both? 344 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: We'll do giving first, okay. 345 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: In terms of me giving or five of them you do. 346 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: What a gentleman as you should yep yep. And what 347 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: do you like receiving the most? Obviously we like all five? 348 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: Quality time and physical touch? 349 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, so in quality time? What's your favorite thing 350 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: to do together? 351 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: We don't have a favorite thing to do together. 352 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: Just anything being in each other's company. Yes, yeah, because 353 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: you have some hobbies that you really really like. I 354 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: know that you love watching movies, you love trains yep, 355 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: and you love Germany well yes, yes. 356 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: My partner actually happens to love railways. And animation as 357 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: much as I do, perfect Match, And she even loves 358 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Thomas the Tank Engine as much as I do. 359 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: There you go. So do you guys bond over that 360 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: quite a lot? 361 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Yep, we do. Yeah, I have more in common with 362 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: her than I do with any other woman that I've met. 363 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: Perfect match. Then maybe she's your soul mate. 364 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: That's a possibility, but I don't know that for certain 365 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: just yet. 366 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: Just yet, you have maybe a few more years. 367 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: And the at least three or four years to know 368 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: that for certain. 369 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: And is that when you might propose hmm, if. 370 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: We come to that bridge, I would wow. 371 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: Will you Are you thinking of maybe moving in together? 372 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: Hmmm? That would be a possibility. Yeah, if things are 373 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: still going strongly after two or three years, okay. 374 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: And do you still live with your family? 375 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: Yep? Still live at home? 376 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: That's all right. Sometimes being around your family is like good, 377 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: Or you want to live. 378 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: Alone, I'd actually rather have my own place. 379 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: Really well, maybe that's like your next step. Maybe that's 380 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: what you do this year. And have you ever since 381 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: being on the show, have you had a lot of 382 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: maybe celebrity interactions or people notice you that like your 383 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: thing is really cool? 384 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: Actually, I have who I Well, I have close friendships 385 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: with Ben Miller, Sally Phillips and Jeercard's they all start 386 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: with being on Austin. 387 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: Wow. And you're still friends with them now. 388 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: Yes, and still and also great friends with some other 389 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: cast members like Ellie Mackay, who played my half sister Floren. 390 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: We actually have a bit of a sibling relationship. 391 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: Wow. Do you see them often? 392 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: Well, Ben, Sally and Ellie live in England. Well, Gia 393 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: is based in La most of the time. Yeah, And 394 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: there's also Kate Elliott, she's based in Bondi somewhere, and 395 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: then there's also Natalie Abbott. 396 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 397 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of preparing myself for the possibility that 398 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: there may be some celebrities that may not know who 399 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: I am and would see me as it's nobody from nowhere. 400 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: Nah, You're not a nobody from nowhere though. 401 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: No, No, that's what I saw. 402 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: Michael Tho. You got a rocket, you got to own it. 403 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, but this stuff takes time. When you're 404 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: signing out in a career in acting and you're. 405 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: Very fresh, don't leave the start. Yeah, maybe you've got 406 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: to go to LA or something. All in good time, 407 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: All in good time. Do you have TikTok? No, no 408 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: to say we could maybe do like a TikTok dance. 409 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: The only dancing I can do is boring down dancing. 410 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: Oh I can't do bom dancing. 411 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: Because if I tried doing that kind of dancing they 412 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: do at nightclubs, I make a fool out of myself. 413 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: Have you ever been to a nightclub? 414 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: Yes? And I've always hated it. Why because people aren't 415 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: interested in socializing. The only interested in dancing and getting drunk. 416 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 2: But dancing is so much fun. 417 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: I would say that bor dancing is the most fun. 418 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: So, Michael, what do you think I do for a living? 419 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm actually not entirely sure. 420 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: So I do podcasting, yes, I was told that, and 421 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: then I have TikTok, which I make videos on so 422 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 2: like short form videos like I don't film like long 423 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: days like you maybe do in love on the spectrum, 424 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: and then I do. I'm called an influencer, but I 425 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: would also say that you're called an influencer. 426 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: I hardly call myself that, But I. 427 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: Think you're very influential towards people maybe with autism, and 428 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: you inspire them, so you're influential. 429 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: But the influenced is not something I would do professionally, right, 430 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: because I'm big on acting, Yes, work of substance. 431 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: Yes. 432 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: Also because influencing is more of a woman dominated field. 433 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: It definitely is, yes. 434 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: And that was actually one of the main reasons why 435 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: I decided to quit it. Right, and also because I 436 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: wouldn't be taken seriously as an actor. 437 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: Fair, because that's your end goal, is becoming an actor. Well, 438 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: because you're not an influencer and you're not very you're 439 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: not on TikTok and everything like that. I'm going to 440 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: ask you a few TikTok words or like trendy words, 441 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to guess what they mean. Sure, 442 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: like a little game. So what does no cap mean? 443 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: I have no idea what that means. 444 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: Have a guess. No cap means like no bullshit, Like 445 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: you're not lying. 446 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand modern slang. 447 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: Right, what do you think red flag means? What's a 448 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: red flag a warning sign? Yep? So when say that's 449 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: a red flag in dating, what do you think. 450 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: That means something to be careful of? 451 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: Yep? Good? And what's a beige flag? 452 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: I don't know? 453 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 2: Beige flag is like okay, So when I'm like, I 454 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: don't like tomato sauce. Do you like tomato sauce? Sort 455 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 2: of yeah, And like the person that you're dating loves 456 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: tomato sauce. They're like, oh, that's a bit of a 457 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: beige flag because like she doesn't love tomato sauce as 458 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 2: much to me, what's doululu? Have? I guess do lulu? 459 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: I've never heard of that word delusional delusion. It's like 460 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: they're doolulu. What about slay queen or slay killer? Oh? 461 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: Kind of like when I'm like, Michael, you look slay. 462 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: In that shirt today, I do not know what slay means. 463 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: Slay means like your the shirt looks great, so like 464 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: the shirt is slay. 465 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: One of the main reasons why I don't I'm stand 466 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: modern slang is because I have a combination of conservative 467 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: and modern values, and also because I have a more 468 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: formal speech pattern. 469 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: You do. You do speak very well, and. 470 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: Also because I have a very straightforward type of mind. 471 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 472 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: Do you ever swear on occasion? Yeah, if I'm stressed 473 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: or frustrated. 474 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, you speak very well. You hold yourself very well. 475 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: Thanks. 476 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: I can't say I say the same. I'm a very 477 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: I have a very big potty mouth. I feel like 478 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 2: I'm I'm Michael's red flag. 479 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: I also, in fact, I'm actually a podcast host myself. 480 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: I was the host of the Mister a Plus podcast, 481 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: which has since ceased. I'm starting a new podcast called 482 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: Untypical with my friend Poppy Read. 483 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: And when does that go out? 484 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: We don't know just yet because we're still recording a 485 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: bunch of episodes to release. 486 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: Right. So, yeah, where unless it's Love on the Spectrum 487 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: because you obviously, now that you've love, are you going 488 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: to go on Love and the Spectrum again? 489 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Wow, it's because I find it 490 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: unnecessary and that chapter has closed for me. Yeah, Love 491 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: and the Spectrum is one of the most exciting chapters 492 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: of my life and one of the strongest pillars of 493 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: my life's life story. But some things have to come 494 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: to an end, because when one chapter closes, it's time 495 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: for the next one to open. 496 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: All good things come to an endacle. 497 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because for some strange reason, people seem to view 498 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: life as a race, but I see it as. 499 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: More of a book, very good analogy. 500 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: In fact, I can't even understand why people see life 501 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: as a race. 502 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, because everyone just has so many goals and 503 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: everyone's like very competitive and world it's very easy to 504 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: compare yourself. 505 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: Yes, I understand that. Yeah, but is being competitive necessary? 506 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: No, not at all, but some people find it necessary. 507 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't. 508 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, a testament to who you are, Michael. So, 509 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 2: but what's next for you? Where can obviously you might 510 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: not be You're not going in love on the Spectrum 511 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: anymore in that chapter's closed? What can people expect for 512 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: you in the future? And where can people find you 513 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: if they want to know more about your life from listening? 514 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: People can find me on Instagram. Yep, mister underscore A 515 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: Underscore plus Underscore Michael, I'm all and I'm still the 516 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: ambassador of Wayble. That's that's never going to end. 517 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 518 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: I'm also writing a children's book, Very Cool, which is 519 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: about a nine year old boy on the spec on 520 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: the Spectrum. I can't give too much information because I've 521 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: got to save that for publicity. 522 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: Yes, got to save that for an element of surprise, yes, yes. 523 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: And we've only just found an illustrator for it, so 524 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be a while until it gets it 525 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: gets published yep. 526 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: And hopefully you'll be acting in more movies or maybe 527 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: a show. 528 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: Yes, there's another television show that's in development of Northern Pictures. 529 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: I can't reveal it at the moment because yes, but 530 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: I've begin myself physically toned for it. 531 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: Wow, so you're on a health and fitness journey. 532 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of, But I'm not on some kind of 533 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: diet though. 534 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe just like what type of working out do you. 535 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Like to do? Waits and cardio? Combination of both? 536 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: Very nice? Yes, Well, can't wait to see that transformation. 537 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: That could be cool. 538 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: In fact, the first season of Austin is already on 539 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: ABC I view since last year. We finished filming for 540 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: season two a couple of months ago, but I have 541 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: no idea when that's. 542 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: Going to release, and maybe at the end of the year. 543 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. Well, when I do publicity for it, 544 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: everyone will know, Yeah. 545 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure. So everyone will have to keep up on 546 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: your socials to know when that is coming out, that's right. Yeah. 547 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: What else do you do to prepare yourself for shows 548 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: or acting? 549 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: In terms of I'm preparing for Austin, I don't really 550 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: have to do a lot of preparation because Austin is 551 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: a character based on me. So I just channel myself 552 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: in a way well very good. Also have comedy in 553 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: my bones as well. 554 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: Well yeah, so there's nothing. You just be yourself and 555 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: hope it works up for the best. 556 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: And with this other other role, I'm not really sure 557 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: how I'm going to go about preparing for it, but 558 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: I'll find some way to do it. 559 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: You'll find your way. 560 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everyone does exactly. 561 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for coming on my podcast. Michael. 562 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 2: It was a pleasure, lovely to have you on today. 563 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: Is there anything else that you wanted to say, any 564 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: questions you wanted to ask? 565 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I would like to ask what can you tell 566 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: me about yourself as a person, what brings you joy 567 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: most in life? And what are your interesting passions? 568 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 2: Well? I love clothes and fashion. I love dressing up 569 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: and getting doing my makeup and doing my hair. I 570 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: also really love health and fitness, like I love doing weights, 571 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: I love boxing. I love going to cafe and trying 572 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: nice restaurants with my friends. I met like a city girl. 573 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 574 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, a very modern type. 575 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: Of woman, very very modern type of woman. That's a 576 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: great way to explain. 577 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: With Michael, and possibly kind of a bit of a enigma. 578 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 579 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: Enigma is another alternative word for mystery. 580 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm a mystery, I suppose so in what way? 581 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: It's just a vibe that I get about you. 582 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: I'm a bit mysterious. 583 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of hard to explain. 584 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: Oh, well, is there any other questions that you would 585 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: like to know about me? Then to find out more 586 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 2: about me? 587 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: Yes? Okay? Do you ever see yourself getting married in 588 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: the future? 589 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: I would love to get married. 590 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: What do you want most out of a man. 591 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: To know that he can protect me? 592 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: Maybe? 593 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? And I don't think providing for me is necessarily 594 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: Like I can provide for myself, but someone who can 595 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: create a partnership and raise like a family alongside me, 596 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: and we're like, we're two best friends. I want a 597 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: best friend and a partner. 598 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: Hmmmm. 599 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: Is that a good answer. 600 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: Yes, they are great answers because because every woman should 601 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: be a working woman, yes, and thus self funded, because 602 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: men can't be the only providers anymore. 603 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: Well, especially in the cost of living. 604 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: Yeah that, but also in terms of protecting this woman, 605 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: that should be a no brainer for all men. 606 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: It should be, But it's not why I know I'm 607 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: talking about it. You need to get you need to 608 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: get this into the boys's heads. Michael. What would you 609 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: tell maybe the boys out there to be how to 610 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: become a man? What would what advice would you give them? 611 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: I think the best advice I can give them is 612 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: you have to be considered of a woman's feelings because 613 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: they're valid. 614 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael. 615 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: And also in terms of gift giving, yes, don't ask 616 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: her what she wants, spend a day window shopping with 617 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: her a few weeks beforehand. At least. 618 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: He knows what's up, Thank you, Michael. 619 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: Also, if she ever wants to talk to you about 620 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: about something, yep, the worst thing you can say is 621 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it later, because that's a man's way 622 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: of saying I don't want to talk about it ever. 623 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: And he expects us to never be brought up again. 624 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. And what does it mean when a girl 625 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: says I'm fine? 626 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: When a woman says that she's fine, I hear that 627 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: you're fine, But the question is why am I not 628 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: feeling it? 629 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: When a woman says she's fine, Michael, she's lying. She's 630 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: not fine. 631 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: That doesn't even sound accurate to me. Would and in fact, 632 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: whenever my partner says there's something on her mind, I 633 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: would say to myself, that's it. I'm calling her now, 634 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about it now. 635 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: That is a very good partner review, Michael. 636 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Because if something's on her mind, it kind of bothers 637 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: me in a way. 638 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is fair enough because you're a. 639 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Partnership exactly, because that's what it's about, a partnership, not 640 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: about someone answering to another person. Another thing I was 641 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: also going to mention is if you really want a 642 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: woman to feel loved or valued, don't tell her, show her. 643 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: And the best way you can show her is hug 644 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: and kiss her every day and tell her you love 645 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: her every day. 646 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. It's the bare minimum, Michael. 647 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: And when you kiss a woman, do it with passion, Yes, 648 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: do it like you mean it, kiss it like there's 649 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: no tomorrow. Yes. 650 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: Well, when you hugged me, you hugged me very tired. 651 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: It was very it was a very nice, genuine hug. 652 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Yep. That's because I prefer to give bear hugs. 653 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: Yes, so you did give a very big bear hug. 654 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: Yep. Because when you when you hug when I prefer 655 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: when I hug a woman, I prefer to do it 656 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: like there's no tomorrow. Yes, because when you're kissed or 657 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: hugged by a woman, there's nothing more heartwarming than that. 658 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 659 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: Because the love of a woman should be sacred yep, 660 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: just like marriage should be marriage and the marriage, romance 661 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: and the love of a woman are heartwarming treasures and 662 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: they're sacred and should be regarded as such. And when 663 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: people don't value those things, it's an insult to me. 664 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: Yes, well, we need more people like you. You need 665 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: to be a public speaker about how to treat women. 666 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: You like treasure women and it's beautiful. 667 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: I can give all this advice to every man in 668 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: the world all I want, but they have to they 669 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: have to be smarter than this and learn to do 670 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: what's best for their partners themselves, because it's not really 671 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: my place to tell them what they should and should 672 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: not do. That's true, because starting off with affection is 673 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: a great way to start. Sometimes when when I kiss 674 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: my partner, I can't help myself by going overboard with it. 675 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: In what way? 676 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: We do it a lot? That's okay, and we're not afraid, 677 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: and we're not afraid. 678 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: A bit of no, oh, you're loving wow. 679 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: Because because I'm because I'm proud to kiss a woman 680 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: in public, as you should be. 681 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: You should be proud that you have a loving girlfriend. 682 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: In fact, she checks on me like every day, asking 683 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 1: me how's my day going, how's my night going? And 684 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: we always ask each other, always say good morning to 685 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: each other and how we slept. We do this daily. 686 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, as you should. You should speak to your partner 687 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: every day. Yeah, and when you get to see each other, 688 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: you get to kiss each other. It's cute. Wow. Well, 689 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: thank you so much Michael for coming on the podcast. 690 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: I've loved having you on today, and I'm sure the 691 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: audience has as well. And maybe we'll see you soon. 692 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: Maybe we could have your girlfriend on and you can 693 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: speak about it. 694 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: Yep, that would be great. I think I find I 695 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: think she'd love that. 696 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: Oh well, maybe you can make that happen. Well, thank 697 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: you so much and I'll see you guys very soon 698 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: with another episode. Say bye bye bye for having me on, Sam, 699 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: thank you, look my pleasure