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Speaker 3: To show that is to woke virtue signaling and climate
Speaker 3: hysteria on steroids.
Speaker 2: What Canadian NP Laurel Collins is to putting scientific reason
Speaker 2: and rational thought above emotion.
Speaker 4: I hope you'll forgive me if I get emotional. Climate
Speaker 4: emergencies are not gender neutral. The degradation of ecosystems disproportionately
Speaker 4: impacts women and girls, and I am wildly emotional. This
Speaker 4: is the existential crisis of our time.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, climate change is just going to kill
Speaker 5: us all. It's also sexist and misogynist.
Speaker 6: I knew it.
Speaker 4: To hear that asking for high ambition is climate hysteria.
Speaker 4: That makes me wildly emotional.
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: You know, when I think about my womb, you know,
Speaker 4: the two children that I bore from that womb, and
Speaker 4: what future we are leaving them, I am wildly emotional.
Speaker 8: God Sally. So then one of the most rational, logical,
Speaker 8: and pragmatic steps we should take here.
Speaker 4: I think that we need to think about the intersection
Speaker 4: of gender and the climate crisis. And I hope that
Speaker 4: the people around this table and the people listening will
Speaker 4: refrain from using language like climate hysteria. We are facing
Speaker 4: a climate emergency.
Speaker 2: Wow, well, Laurel Ware is about the impact of climate
Speaker 2: hysteria on her womb. Let's take a pregnant pause, then
Speaker 2: get stuck straight in for the latest Outsiders news. Well,
Speaker 2: that loud sound you heard was the crashing of one
Speaker 2: of the key fundamental pillars of Western civilization, that the
Speaker 2: idea that the law should be above politics and politics
Speaker 2: must not corrupt the legal system has been completely trashed
Speaker 2: in the United States in the most disgraceful and disgusting
Speaker 2: conviction ever recorded in US history, and that is the
Speaker 2: completely unwarranted conviction of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, James.
Speaker 8: I thought you were going to say the Rosenberg's Roland,
Speaker 8: but anyway, No, this is absolutely uncharted territory we are
Speaker 8: in right now, this case here and these thirty four counts.
Speaker 8: Everybody needs to understand what is happening here.
Speaker 5: Letase explain it, James, because some of the commentary and
Speaker 5: news reporting we have had in this country has been nothing.
Speaker 8: Allow me Rita to walk us through. So essentially what
Speaker 8: this all goes back to is twenty sixteen and twenty
Speaker 8: fifteen and Donald Trump had basically paid off through his
Speaker 8: lawyers an NBA a non disclosures agreement to silence story
Speaker 8: of Daniels, who he says he didn't have sex with.
Speaker 8: She said they did. Who cares? That doesn't matter. Now,
Speaker 8: the point is this non disclosure agreement. This is the
Speaker 8: sort of thing politicians do all the time. Bill Clinton
Speaker 8: did it with Paula Jones. This has happened time and
Speaker 8: time again. So what happened, Well, this was a bookkeeping error,
Speaker 8: and there's a two year statute of limitations. But what
Speaker 8: happened was this it's a misdemeanor, it's not a felony.
Speaker 8: And I'm going to talk about this more later in
Speaker 8: the show. But what happened was Alvin Bragg, the district
Speaker 8: attorney who ran for office because you run for the
Speaker 8: office there on a platform, was saying, I've sued Trump before,
Speaker 8: I want to get Trump. I'm going to get Trump.
Speaker 8: That's why you should vote for me. He created this
Speaker 8: whole novel legal theory. No one's ever had this happen before,
Speaker 8: where he connected this misdemeanor bookkeeping thing, which is very
Speaker 8: similar to what happens all the time to election law
Speaker 8: and said, oh, well, this was an attempt to defraud
Speaker 8: the electorate, to tell, you know, to hide the truth
Speaker 8: from them and thus interfere with our democracy. Now, of
Speaker 8: course this was all nonsense. It was complete nonsense. Yet
Speaker 8: the jury was given instructions by a judge who had
Speaker 8: given money to the Democrats, whose daughter is on the
Speaker 8: payroll of the Democrats, to give them the jury instructions
Speaker 8: that basically said, there's no way you have to find
Speaker 8: him guilty. There are so many ways that this is
Speaker 8: going to appeal and be appealed, and Trump will probably win.
Speaker 8: But the problem is this isn't going to happen until
Speaker 8: after the election. In the meantime, sentencing is set for
Speaker 8: July eleventh. July eleventh, just four days before he is
Speaker 8: con as Republican National Committee's nominee for the President of
Speaker 8: the United States, and jams and sorry, rowan one more thing.
Speaker 8: He could wind up being sent to jail by this
Speaker 8: blatantly political judge. This is where we are. This is
Speaker 8: a disgrace.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also a disgrace for the simple reason that
Speaker 2: the judge, rather than having a unanimous verdict, the crime
Speaker 2: was never spelled out. This is communist style, Soviet style
Speaker 2: show trials where the crime is never spelt out.
Speaker 3: The four judges, so.
Speaker 2: The juries had three different crimes that they could have
Speaker 2: convicted him on, and they didn't have to specify what
Speaker 2: they were. And the judge himself says, you don't need
Speaker 2: to be unanimous, just as long as four of you
Speaker 2: agree on the three different things. An absolute travesty of
Speaker 2: justice unlike anything we have seen before, and absolute disgrace.
Speaker 2: And he will go to jail for the simple reason
Speaker 2: that this is a show trial, Soviet show trial, and
Speaker 2: they want him behind bars because that's what they want
Speaker 2: for their campaign posters to try and get Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: the worst president in US history, into the White House.
Speaker 2: My prediction is Americans are not stupid. My prediction is
Speaker 2: Americans will say this was a Soviet era show trial
Speaker 2: and we want Donald Trump in the rocketing and they
Speaker 2: will put him there. And woe betide all of you
Speaker 2: who are cheering at this, because you are cheering at
Speaker 2: the downfall of Western civilization. You cannot have a legal
Speaker 2: system that is at the behest of corrupt politicians, and
Speaker 2: that's what we've seen here in the United States.
Speaker 5: Rita Rowan, I would argue this is worst of the
Speaker 5: Communists show trial because as the communist said, you know,
Speaker 5: show me the man and I'll show you the crime.
Speaker 6: Here, they haven't actually help.
Speaker 5: A local New York court prosecute and convict federal election laws.
Speaker 5: I mean, the whole thing is so absurd, and it
Speaker 5: is going like all the legal opinion was given the
Speaker 5: way this has been framed, there's going to be a
Speaker 5: conviction here, even if the ones who were in court
Speaker 5: are saying that were I could not believe what they
Speaker 5: were saying. The proceedings were extraordinary on a number of levels.
Speaker 5: But again, all the legal opinion is that this will
Speaker 5: be overturned on appeal, but as James mentioned, that's not
Speaker 5: going to be until after the November poll. So the
Speaker 5: whole point of this is to go to the election
Speaker 5: and have Trump called a convicted felony.
Speaker 6: But this is the thing the Democrats and the left
Speaker 6: don't understand.
Speaker 8: They've seen that.
Speaker 5: Made words like racist, bigot, sexist.
Speaker 6: They've stripped these.
Speaker 5: Words of all meaning but over using and misusing them,
Speaker 5: and they're about to do that with convicted felons.
Speaker 2: Quickly, think about that photo of Donald Trump mugshot, the
Speaker 2: mugshot that made him a superstar. This is going to
Speaker 2: make him even more of a superstar, James, because there
Speaker 2: are people throughout America, particularly in minority communities, who know
Speaker 2: an unfair justice system when they see it, and they
Speaker 2: are going, WHOA.
Speaker 3: Trump is one of us.
Speaker 2: Now he's suffering from a corrupt, politicized justice system, legal
Speaker 2: system in which there is no justice. Lady Justice, She's
Speaker 2: torn off that blindfold. She's no longer blind. She is
Speaker 2: now entirely at the behest of the Democrats. Woe betied America.
Speaker 2: I do not trust how rotten is the American justice system?
Speaker 3: How far will this go? I hate to.
Speaker 8: Think, Well, you know, Rita, I've got to take issue
Speaker 8: with one thing you said. You said there's no crime.
Speaker 8: We don't know what the crime was that Trump was
Speaker 8: convicted of. We're charged with The crime was very simple.
Speaker 8: He was, But he was big Donald J. Trump?
Speaker 9: Ye?
Speaker 1: He was?
Speaker 8: Did Hillary Clinton? Twenty sixteen? This is all about. This
Speaker 8: is about dealergitimizing the election of twenty sixteen, which the
Speaker 8: left never accepted. River. That's the thing that we have
Speaker 8: to talk about here. This all goes back to twenty sixteen.
Speaker 8: Trump won and they said this is not legitimate. They
Speaker 8: denied the election. This case, this process here Rita and Rowan,
Speaker 8: is an act of election denial by the left for them,
Speaker 8: they need this for psychological closure to bookend that trauma.
Speaker 8: This case would never have been brought against Trump though,
Speaker 8: had he not been running for president.
Speaker 2: So the reason why I don't think it's got anything
Speaker 2: to do with delegitimizing twenty sixteen. This is all about
Speaker 2: election interference. In twenty twenty four, they cheated, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty Clearly, in my opinion, the Democrats cheated,
Speaker 2: whether that got Biden into the White House or not,
Speaker 2: that there was certainly clear evidence of election interference at
Speaker 2: all sorts of levels, including Zackerberg's fortifying the election. This
Speaker 2: is election interference. It is done because they believe that
Speaker 2: if enough Americans see Donald Trump as a convicted furlom,
Speaker 2: they won't.
Speaker 3: Vote for him.
Speaker 2: This is election interference, of games, boldly in front of us.
Speaker 2: And if they're sure to go this far, take it
Speaker 2: from me. That's how far they went last time.
Speaker 5: Well, look at what they did to Trump. They spied
Speaker 5: illegally on his campaign. They then used the Clinton campaign paid.
Speaker 6: A law firm another exactly to come.
Speaker 3: Up with a scale of lives, exactly to.
Speaker 6: Get feeser warrants to spy some more.
Speaker 5: Now that all sorts of crimes you can see there
Speaker 5: that are quite clear, and their.
Speaker 8: Federal Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. You know,
Speaker 8: in a couple of years ago, I think it was
Speaker 8: the Hillary campaign organization from twenty sixteen paid a fine
Speaker 8: for doing what using their lawyer to people the Steel
Speaker 8: Steel year. This is exactly the same thing that Trump
Speaker 8: is accused. But the Steel doss was a real attempt
Speaker 8: to interfere not only with the election, but also to
Speaker 8: interfere with all sorts of things, including you know, the
Speaker 8: role of intelligence agencies, because they got foreign intelligence agencies
Speaker 8: to spy on American citizens. That's how sinister this is.
Speaker 8: There were American citizens who are as part of the
Speaker 8: tree and all they paid was fine. But this all
Speaker 8: comes down to here's why I think the American people
Speaker 8: are going to reject this. They're going to see through
Speaker 8: this because at the heart of this is a logical inconsistency. Right, Okay,
Speaker 8: let's put aside Trump, Let's put aside the charges. Here's
Speaker 8: the thing they keep saying that Donald Trump is this
Speaker 8: existential threat. They say, if Donald Trump wins, it's the
Speaker 8: end of American democracy, it's the end of the constitution,
Speaker 8: it's the end of this, it's the end of that.
Speaker 8: We'll have World War three. You know, it's like the
Speaker 8: old joke. You know, they said, if I voted for
Speaker 8: Trump in twenty twenty, we'd have World War three in
Speaker 8: the Middle East. And here we are. But the thing
Speaker 8: is that if Trump is such a threat, well then
Speaker 8: why are they running a guy who is falling apart,
Speaker 8: a guy who was Demented's.
Speaker 2: Let's just have a look at Let's just have a
Speaker 2: look at the demented character. If you want to see,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, the face of something pretty sinister. James
Speaker 2: was talking about sinister. Have a look at this. This
Speaker 2: is Joe Biden being questioned about that verdict on Trump.
Speaker 3: Have a look.
Speaker 10: Donald Trump prefers himself as a political prisoner and blames
Speaker 10: you directly.
Speaker 3: What's your response to that, sir?
Speaker 2: Look that isn't creepy? If that doesn't make your flesh crawl,
Speaker 2: I tell you what. Jack Nicholson couldn't have put on
Speaker 2: a more sinister performance.
Speaker 3: If they paid him to do it.
Speaker 2: But let's also have a listen to Joe Biden telling
Speaker 2: us it's reckless to say that this court case was rigged. Well,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden, it was rigged. So tell me why it
Speaker 2: was reckless again, Joe to say, ass it's dangerous, it's
Speaker 2: irresponsible for anyone who says, I'll tell you what's reckless
Speaker 2: and irresponsible is to rig it, which is what you did,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: And there's plenty of evidence there to.
Speaker 2: Suggest that the four court cases against Donald Trump will
Speaker 2: all have connections back to the Biden administration.
Speaker 8: They do have connections back, but you almost don't even
Speaker 8: need to draw those lines back to the White House
Speaker 8: because the election that is, if you're is if you're
Speaker 8: somebody like Alvin Bragg, and Alvin Bragg, you know, hard
Speaker 8: left prosecutor. You know this is the thing.
Speaker 3: I'm honest.
Speaker 8: I go to New York all the time, right, and
Speaker 8: you know New York they let Alvin Bragg lets out
Speaker 8: criminals on the street every single day. They declared the
Speaker 8: place of sanctuary city. So it's full of illegal migrants.
Speaker 8: The trades. You cannot ride the trades because they're unsafe.
Speaker 8: And now you know, and yet this one guy who
Speaker 8: was accused of doing you know, a bookkeeping error essentially
Speaker 8: back in twenty seventeen or whatever it was. Here, this
Speaker 8: is a guy. This is a guy that they're devoting
Speaker 8: all of their resources.
Speaker 5: On what they created laws to try to get him
Speaker 5: in the civil cases with the Genie Carroll one. So
Speaker 5: this isn't just isolated. All of these efforts are connected.
Speaker 5: It's an effort to stop.
Speaker 6: Him winning the election this year.
Speaker 5: He's leading in the polls and I'll be talking about
Speaker 5: that later. He's leading the polls has increased dramatically during
Speaker 5: this trial.
Speaker 6: So if they think.
Speaker 5: This sort of lawfare, this corruption of the justice system
Speaker 5: is going to work, it may work with a certain
Speaker 5: percentage of people who are low information, of voters who
Speaker 5: don't really read beyond the headlines, but beyond that, I
Speaker 5: think this is backfiring on them enormously.
Speaker 8: Now let me give you a stat on this here,
Speaker 8: and we're talking all through this in the ten o'clock hour,
Speaker 8: but fifty three million dollars that's how much the Trump
Speaker 8: campaign raised in the twenty four hours after the verdict.
Speaker 8: There are now, I am told, very big tech guys,
Speaker 8: hedge fund guys, Wall Street guys who are now saying,
Speaker 8: you know what this is, This is ridiculous. We're going
Speaker 8: to open the floodgates of money to this campaign. You know,
Speaker 8: it's reorienting the whole political process. Here, the Biden campaign
Speaker 8: in the previous month April, their filing is only fifty
Speaker 8: one million. He raised more in twenty four hours than
Speaker 8: the Biden campaign and the Democrats raised in a month.
Speaker 8: This is how furious. And more than a third of
Speaker 8: the donations came from first time doughar.
Speaker 2: Wow, and well, I predict you're going to see Donald
Speaker 2: Trump behind bars because that's what this is all about,
Speaker 2: the optics of that.
Speaker 3: There is behind.
Speaker 2: Bars option, and that'll be another T shirt, and that'll
Speaker 2: be more polls, more donations coming in. But we're going
Speaker 2: to move on and talk about more Trump later in
Speaker 2: the show. But let me just say categorically, the only
Speaker 2: thing now that can save the American justice system from
Speaker 2: complete political Soviet era style corruption is the election of
Speaker 2: Donald Trump on November fifth. The American people will save
Speaker 2: their own justice the system, you mark my words now
Speaker 2: speaking of justice systems closer to home. Ah, we just
Speaker 2: saw James Patterson chatting earlier to Andrew Clenell about this
Speaker 2: direction ninety nine. This is this Immigration minister Andrew Giles
Speaker 2: who got these detainees who have been let out at
Speaker 2: the behest it appears between Albanesi making up some idea
Speaker 2: with justinto.
Speaker 6: Our dern those two, those two all about it go wrong.
Speaker 5: Well, we'll remember the Jacinta Arden was very upset about
Speaker 5: Australia deporting criminals New Zealand citizens back to New Zealand.
Speaker 5: She argued that they spent most of their time in
Speaker 5: Australia and they should have been kept in Australia. Well,
Speaker 5: she made that argument with Peter Dutton Scott Morrison, and
Speaker 5: Peter Dutton was Home Affairs Minister, and they ignored her,
Speaker 5: as you should. But as soon as Albanese came into power,
Speaker 5: he was very happy to appease during give her what
Speaker 5: she wants. And it seems his involvement in instigating this
Speaker 5: disastrous direction that has now seen sex offenders, just the
Speaker 5: most vile criminals, rapists, pedophiles be allowed to stay dodge
Speaker 5: deportation because this direction, ministerial direction, really doesn't give the
Speaker 5: att much choice. Yeah, so now they're going to be
Speaker 5: rejigging it again.
Speaker 8: Jane well this is you know, there's a few things
Speaker 8: to say about this, because of course, remember you've been
Speaker 8: bringing a point reader that this all comes back to
Speaker 8: New Zealand and that trip that you send to our
Speaker 8: durn took over here. We talked about this and I
Speaker 8: wrote about this at the time that this was going
Speaker 8: to wind up with a couple of consequences. Number one,
Speaker 8: more criminals staying here for longer. Number two. The other
Speaker 8: thing that Anthony Albanez wanted to do with the set
Speaker 8: of regulations that he passed at that time was to
Speaker 8: make it easier for resident kiwis here to quickly take
Speaker 8: citizenship because he wanted to get them as voters, you know,
Speaker 8: say oh well, thank you, be easy for the citizenship
Speaker 8: and now we're going to sign up for labor. That's
Speaker 8: the other thing. But the third thing that needs to
Speaker 8: be said here is that it is absolutely political and
Speaker 8: irresponsible for him to be attacking the Administrative Appeals Tribe UNEL,
Speaker 8: which is the body that handles these things. They have
Speaker 8: created a situation where they want to get rid of
Speaker 8: the AAT and create a new body, the Administrative Review
Speaker 8: Tribe UNAL, which will be guaranteed to be stacked with
Speaker 8: labor types by Mark Dreyfuss and everybody else and all
Speaker 8: of their labormates are going to go on to this,
Speaker 8: which will result in more bad outcomes, not less, not fewer.
Speaker 8: Because the thing is that the aaa T was trying
Speaker 8: to do a good job here, but they keep getting
Speaker 8: hobbled by this government that wants them to create a
Speaker 8: huge problem for them and then say, oh, well look
Speaker 8: at aaat's problem. What's this is directive that says that
Speaker 8: they have to take into account and I've read many
Speaker 8: of these judgments and that they will say in the decision.
Speaker 8: You know this they committed this hatescribe that heads tried,
Speaker 8: but now I have to I have to take into
Speaker 8: account this connection. And unfortunately here we are.
Speaker 3: So bungles labor policy as usual.
Speaker 2: The Immigration minister how he can still be in his
Speaker 2: job is beyond me. But with labor, you know, the
Speaker 2: buck always stops over there somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Everyone else passes the buck further down the line.
Speaker 2: They never have accountability within the labor party.
Speaker 3: They just sit there quite happily.
Speaker 2: Have listened to Immigration Minister Giles coming up with some
Speaker 2: bizarre idea about drones monitoring this detainees have a Listen.
Speaker 11: There is a quarter of a billion dollars that we've
Speaker 11: invested in supporting our law enforcement agencies to enforce that,
Speaker 11: and that's enabled things like using drones to keep track
Speaker 11: of those people.
Speaker 7: We know where they are.
Speaker 2: We just have them all with electronic monitor because the
Speaker 2: law doesn't allow it. Well, maybe they're Maybe Giles is
Speaker 2: sitting there with his own drones tracing people because none
Speaker 2: of our authority he had said, no we've got that all,
Speaker 2: said the police, and no we're not.
Speaker 8: What is going on there?
Speaker 6: Who is advising that man?
Speaker 5: I mean, his department either hates him or they're as
Speaker 5: inept as he is, because obviously he's been given this
Speaker 5: advice that has no basis in fact, because the AFP.
Speaker 6: Have come out and said, well.
Speaker 5: No, remember we're not using drones in that way, but
Speaker 5: it's an idea.
Speaker 3: Maybe we should more want tom foolery from labor.
Speaker 8: This is not a government that takes borders seriously. And
Speaker 8: I'm sorry all of this Harry Chest and chest beating
Speaker 8: about you know, oh we're being tough on it. And
Speaker 8: it was Peter Duttet who made all the mistakes. You know.
Speaker 8: Number one, stop blaming the previous government. You're in power,
Speaker 8: he's been power for two years now, takes some responsibility.
Speaker 8: But number two again, they don't really in their DNA
Speaker 8: believe in borders. They don't believe Andrew Giles. Andrew Giles too.
Speaker 8: You know, he loves being a minister. He loves going
Speaker 8: off to London campaign for the boy. She loves doing
Speaker 8: all these sort of things. But doing things like you
Speaker 8: taking a briefing from the cover well solicitor about how
Speaker 8: this High Court case is going to go against them,
Speaker 8: that they need to get some laws written on the quick,
Speaker 8: smart to do something about to have ready to pass
Speaker 8: the Parliament. Yeah, that's just boring stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now let's quickly look at Sydney University. What a disgrace.
Speaker 2: Have a listened to this professor? This is what your
Speaker 2: kids if you've sent your kids to Sydney University. This
Speaker 2: is the sort of garbage they are being to have listened.
Speaker 12: We can see how the Western media has suppressed coverage
Speaker 12: of the atrocities. They've used this kind of fake news
Speaker 12: about hermass beheading, babies and mass rates, all in order
Speaker 12: to shore up support for Israel, and they have distorted
Speaker 12: events so let's.
Speaker 1: Be really clear.
Speaker 3: The Left love to talk about power imbalances.
Speaker 13: Here you have a teacher teaching vulnerable students who have
Speaker 13: gone there, gone to a university thinking they're going to
Speaker 13: broaden their mind, get more knowledge, and they have this
Speaker 13: sort of mad crazy alogists for her mass spewing basic
Speaker 13: bile into their heads.
Speaker 2: Get your kids out of that university and don't fund
Speaker 2: that university.
Speaker 3: Seriously, Rita, it.
Speaker 5: Is appalling to to study so hard to get into
Speaker 5: an elite university, and Sydney University is a prestigious university,
Speaker 5: and then to have your academic results determined by someone
Speaker 5: with that kind of a mindset. So you can imagine
Speaker 5: what sort of absolute nonsense you would have to regurgitate
Speaker 5: in your work to get a decent mark from someone
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: So twelve hundred people, many women, children, great disgusting, and
Speaker 2: this teacher is sitting there, well, it makes me sick.
Speaker 5: Serious, and it would be exactly the same types of
Speaker 5: people who would be marching for women, marching for against
Speaker 5: violence against women. And yet when it comes to the
Speaker 5: systematic rape and slaughter that was so on October seven,
Speaker 5: there is just so much documentation about what happened and
Speaker 5: how rape was used as a weapon.
Speaker 3: Of women's.
Speaker 8: Prison, denying it.
Speaker 6: They're saying it's some sort of a media creation.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: Sorry, guys. The thing is, you know, let's we can't
Speaker 8: just talk about this one particular professor, you know, Fish
Speaker 8: Fish Ross for the head, remember, you know, and I mean, yes,
Speaker 8: you've had a great point. You know, Queers of Palestine.
Speaker 8: It's like feminist for Hamas were seeing all of this
Speaker 8: stuff right now. But you know, the head of the
Speaker 8: University of Mark's God at ABC, you know, he has
Speaker 8: allowed that encampment to stay in the quad. He gave
Speaker 8: an interview to twgb's been Ford of the other day
Speaker 8: where he said worse the effect of, well, look, I'm
Speaker 8: sorry if people are upset by you know, what they're
Speaker 8: seeing in these encampments. But it's a big campus and
Speaker 8: you can walk around. There are other roots you can
Speaker 8: take so you don't have to deal with them. I mean,
Speaker 8: this is just ridiculous.
Speaker 5: If you had some anti immigration encampment at Sydney University
Speaker 5: or Melbourne or Monash, any of the campus, it would
Speaker 5: last precisely thirty seconds. They would bring in not just
Speaker 5: the cops, campus security, they would make sure it is
Speaker 5: cleared out, they would be condemning it. They would be
Speaker 5: having all sorts of bloody programs to provide counseling to
Speaker 5: those who were impacted by it, but which is openly
Speaker 5: hostile to Jewish students, which is in many ways anti Semitic,
Speaker 5: and students aren't feeling safe on campus. Some are deferring
Speaker 5: their studies, some are pulling out of their courses entirely. No,
Speaker 5: the university leadership is quite comfortable with it as apparently
Speaker 5: free speech suddenly.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with
Speaker 2: lots more Trump to talk about, lots more also on Israel,
Speaker 2: and we've got some special guests coming up.
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Speaker 5: and left He's losing it Friday nights at nine point thirty.
Speaker 5: And my word, we had a lefty loser in spectacular
Speaker 5: fashion outside of Manhattan court room this week, just a
Speaker 5: couple of days before the verdict in the Third World
Speaker 5: style Banana Republic Trump Show Trial. Yes, there is our
Speaker 5: broken old lefty wearing a mask outdoors. Naturally, it's none
Speaker 5: other than Robert de Niro, who decided to prove to
Speaker 5: the world that he is suffering from an acute case
Speaker 5: of Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 7: I don't mean to scare you.
Speaker 8: No, no, wait, maybe I do mean to scare you.
Speaker 14: If Trump returns to the White House, you can kiss
Speaker 14: these freedoms goodbye that we all take for granted, and
Speaker 14: elections forget about it.
Speaker 8: That's over, that's done.
Speaker 14: If he gets in, I can tell you right now,
Speaker 14: he will never leave.
Speaker 8: He will never leave. You know that he will never leave.
Speaker 15: There you go.
Speaker 5: If Trump wins later this year, it will be the
Speaker 5: end of democracy, the end of elections.
Speaker 6: Trump will be a dictator, you know.
Speaker 5: The type of tyrant that persecutes his political opponents on
Speaker 5: trumped up charges and tries to bankrupt them and put
Speaker 5: them in prison.
Speaker 6: Oh wait, that's the current guy.
Speaker 10: Donald Trump prefers himself as a political prisoner and blames
Speaker 10: you directly.
Speaker 3: What's your response to that, sir.
Speaker 5: But back to de Niro, proving yet again that actors
Speaker 5: should stick to reading scripts written by other people lest
Speaker 5: they look like demented nincom poops and watch out. De
Speaker 5: Nero handles the crowd heckling him when he calls a
Speaker 5: couple of clout chasing January six cops.
Speaker 9: Heroes are the.
Speaker 8: True hero They stood and put their lives on the line.
Speaker 3: Putts but true.
Speaker 16: They lied on the road.
Speaker 2: One to tell.
Speaker 1: You, don't excuse me, don't pray mind. They lie under wrong.
Speaker 1: What are you saying? They're traders?
Speaker 3: What do you say? What do you mean?
Speaker 6: They lie under wright?
Speaker 5: All forget about it, and the crowd interaction for Old
Speaker 5: Bob only got worse.
Speaker 1: A paid sell out for the d n C, A
Speaker 1: paid sell out to the d n C.
Speaker 17: Robert Dell You you you.
Speaker 5: Know, the great Alfred Hitchcock said this about actors. I
Speaker 5: never said all actors are cattle. What I said was
Speaker 5: all actors should be treated like cattle.
Speaker 6: And I think we can all agree. Worry with that.
Speaker 5: After hearing DeNiro's paranoid Trump fantasies, the obsession, the derangement
Speaker 5: is weapon grade.
Speaker 14: Nothing at all, nothing redeemable in him. It can't be,
Speaker 14: It cannot be. If he is he wins the election,
Speaker 14: you won't be on the show anymore.
Speaker 8: He'll come looking for me.
Speaker 14: He'll well be, They'll be things that happen that none
Speaker 14: of us can imagine. That's what happens in that kind
Speaker 14: of a dictatorship.
Speaker 5: Not a good sign when even the lefty audience is
Speaker 5: laughing at your paranoid fever dreams of Trump coming to
Speaker 5: get you. And this whole lawfare strategy of weaponizing the
Speaker 5: justice system to attack Trump and keep him from winning
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty four presidential election is backfiring for the
Speaker 5: Democrats the more they press ahead with this corruption of
Speaker 5: the justice system, in this case with a partisan judge
Speaker 5: who don't to the Democrats, and his daughter helped Democrats
Speaker 5: raise more than ninety million dollars using this case in
Speaker 5: their solicitation emails, and that's not even in the top
Speaker 5: ten most improper aspects of this commie.
Speaker 6: Style show trial.
Speaker 5: No doubt that most Americans are seeing through this, and
Speaker 5: in fact, Trump's poll numbers are going higher and higher
Speaker 5: as these cases progress, including in those crucial swing states,
Speaker 5: and in a poll taken in the hours after the conviction,
Speaker 5: Trump improved his position with only twenty percent saying they
Speaker 5: were less likely to vote for a convicted Felon twenty
Speaker 5: six percent said they were more likely, and fifty four
Speaker 5: percent said it would make no difference to their vote.
Speaker 5: And in another poll, it revealed that the guilty verdict
Speaker 5: only improved the former president's standing with likely voters ahead
Speaker 5: of the twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine what the numbers were will do if
Speaker 6: Judge Murchang.
Speaker 5: Puts President Trump in jail four days before the GOP
Speaker 5: convection where Trump is due to be officially named as
Speaker 5: the Republican presidential nominee. The sad reality is that though
Speaker 5: this sham conviction will be overturned on appill, that is
Speaker 5: not going to happen before the twenty twenty four presidential election.
Speaker 5: And that was the whole point to keep Trump from campaigning,
Speaker 5: to time up in court to have him declared a
Speaker 5: convicted felon in the hopes of preventing him from winning
Speaker 5: come in November.
Speaker 6: It's election interference.
Speaker 5: It's funny how those who scream the loudest about the
Speaker 5: threats to democracy are often themselves threats to democracy.
Speaker 2: Fantastic Thanksrita Well joining us now with the latest on
Speaker 2: Dutch and European politics at Webster University. Assistant Professor Ralph Sheilhammer, Ralph.
Speaker 2: Great to see you as always. Now explain to us
Speaker 2: what is going on in Holland. So we had the
Speaker 2: farmer's strikes which led to a change of governments. We
Speaker 2: had Wilders builders in there, and is that still the
Speaker 2: case that seems to be up in the air. Tell
Speaker 2: us exactly the latest from Holland where you are with
Speaker 2: your government.
Speaker 1: Well, the latest is that they have now formed a government.
Speaker 1: So the good news are that they have a very
Speaker 1: ambitious program. I think also as people in Australia would
Speaker 1: be here, we're very happy with It includes all the
Speaker 1: points from migration, to nuclear energy to protection of the farmers.
Speaker 1: But I think there is kind of a little bit
Speaker 1: of a poison pill in disagreement, which of course is
Speaker 1: that he had Wilders himself is not going to be
Speaker 1: the prime minister, which is kind of ironic because we
Speaker 1: talked about there's a couple of months ago on your show,
Speaker 1: right and they said they will try everything they can
Speaker 1: to prevent him from becoming prime minister. And this is
Speaker 1: exactly what happened, and it shows you once again what
Speaker 1: the right can learn from the left. The right is
Speaker 1: very often about politics, about institutions. The left is about power,
Speaker 1: and this is something we need to realize. We see
Speaker 1: with Donald trumpna. Whenever the left says it's about the
Speaker 1: integrity of the institutions or you know, the honor of
Speaker 1: traditions or whatever it is, it's all employed. It is
Speaker 1: always about naked power. And I think on the right
Speaker 1: we still do not understand this, and very often then
Speaker 1: we become afraid of our own convictions. So I think
Speaker 1: in the Netherlands, what will us should have done? He
Speaker 1: should have said, here's my program, this is the platform
Speaker 1: on which I was elected, and I want to be
Speaker 1: prime minister. If you deny me the post of prime minister,
Speaker 1: we have to go to the polls again, and then
Speaker 1: it's not going to be thirty percent for me. It's
Speaker 1: going to be forty percent. And if you still deny
Speaker 1: it to me, it's going to be fifty percent at
Speaker 1: the next election.
Speaker 3: Fascinating.
Speaker 8: James, Ralph tell me about this wave of elections that's
Speaker 8: still coming and moving through Europe, and there's a huge
Speaker 8: amount of fear on the part of the establishment. And
Speaker 8: I think we probably agree that a lot of this
Speaker 8: establishment are kind of, you know, just reconstructing communists from
Speaker 8: the cold war who are now trying to shut down
Speaker 8: these elections and you know, basically say well, if you
Speaker 8: are on the right, you are essentially potentially part of
Speaker 8: a criminal organization and banning their speech, banning their events,
Speaker 8: banning their membership. Tell us about this sort of move
Speaker 8: to use the law to shut down conservative and as
Speaker 8: they call them, populous parties.
Speaker 1: Well, I read the Guardian yesterday and if you read it,
Speaker 1: so there is no longer I write in Europe thatze
Speaker 1: only the far rights, the extreme rights, that extreme right,
Speaker 1: and you can be somewhere around them. But you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is preparing the ground to take legal action,
Speaker 1: because it's the first step, because I mean, who is
Speaker 1: profile right right? Who who wants to be a quasi
Speaker 1: crypto fascist. We see it in Germany where they try
Speaker 1: to sabotage funding of right wing parties. We see it
Speaker 1: in Austria where they try to exclude, for example, the
Speaker 1: Freedom Party from debates. So you see it all over
Speaker 1: the bate, all over. The is absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are entering, and I think this cannot be stressed enough.
Speaker 1: We are entering in Europe, but I think also now
Speaker 1: in the United States, really pre revolutionary territory because you
Speaker 1: guys mentioned it before. There is a massive disconnect between
Speaker 1: the cartel that is formed between the media, academia and
Speaker 1: establishment politicians and the people that really want to change,
Speaker 1: and the idea to constantly smear everybody who wants to
Speaker 1: do something different as far right extreme writer, what does
Speaker 1: Joe Biden always say, ultra extreme, maga or whatever. People
Speaker 1: are not that stupid. And by the way, the three
Speaker 1: of you and I, we can really make this case
Speaker 1: because we had this conversation over a year ago where
Speaker 1: we exactly said that this is going to happen, like
Speaker 1: they going to jump into hyper gear of smearing their
Speaker 1: political opponents more and more and more and more. Problematically
Speaker 1: is that the media goes along with it. But luckily enough,
Speaker 1: and this is what they underestimate. There is now an
Speaker 1: alternative media sphere right people can inform themselves. Recently, in Germany,
Speaker 1: you had this case a couple of days ago were
Speaker 1: a refugee from Afghanistan were stabbing a group of people
Speaker 1: and one police officer. Just a couple of hours ago,
Speaker 1: Sadley succumbed to his injuries and died. You probably would
Speaker 1: not have seen these scenes a couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, precisely the video that is
Speaker 1: just going on and people just saying what is going
Speaker 1: on here? And then you have to meet it. It's
Speaker 1: as stabbing at far right event, far right Islam critic
Speaker 1: was stabbed by Islamists. He would say, well, maybe the
Speaker 1: far right Islam critic got something right and this is
Speaker 1: this is the issue here is. We saw the same
Speaker 1: with the attack on Robert Fitzu, the Prime Minister of Sloakia,
Speaker 1: where you had headlines saying that was even more difficult,
Speaker 1: but because he's economically left but politically on the right.
Speaker 1: But you had also these headlines that says populist politician
Speaker 1: was assassination attempt and kend of this is all he
Speaker 1: basically had it coming short was too skirt is skirt
Speaker 1: was too short?
Speaker 3: Siguratively speaking, Rita.
Speaker 5: Well, you are absolutely right, this Islamist terrorist in Germany.
Speaker 5: The headlines are all about the far right rally where
Speaker 5: he came and he stabbed a supposed far right anti
Speaker 5: Islam protester. I want to ask you out of Europe,
Speaker 5: what's happening in South America, particularly Argentina with Java Mila
Speaker 5: are we seeing a resurgence of the center right are
Speaker 5: we We're seeing that in certainly in Europe.
Speaker 6: But is it happening, is it evident elsewhere?
Speaker 1: Well, that's a tricky thing because of course we should
Speaker 1: not ourselves kind of fall into the trap to describe
Speaker 1: everything that's opposing let's say the mainstream necessarily as being
Speaker 1: to the right. I think just correctly mentioned Argentina is
Speaker 1: currently running let's call it a libertarian writing experiment. But
Speaker 1: for example, in continent Europe right wing parties they're economically
Speaker 1: probably in Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States,
Speaker 1: economically you would still call them left wing parties, like
Speaker 1: nobody there there to touch the welfare state or the
Speaker 1: idea that there should be strong government intervention in the economy.
Speaker 1: The AFDs for this, of course, the Austrian right wingerself
Speaker 1: all this, Orbert Feedso is for this fetesh. Victor Auban's
Speaker 1: party in Hungary does this, but they're culturally conservative. So
Speaker 1: I think when we look at why voters flock to
Speaker 1: the right, it's mostly driven, correctly in my opinion, by
Speaker 1: people's anxiety that they're losing cultural and social cohesion. This
Speaker 1: is driven by economics, it's driven by cultural factors, and
Speaker 1: of course it is driven to a large amount of
Speaker 1: by failed migration policies. But I think it's the sense
Speaker 1: of that what people I feel have a right to
Speaker 1: this kind of continuity of culture. There's a continuity of
Speaker 1: social cohesion. This is crumbling, this is getting lost. I
Speaker 1: mean there are other factors as well. Not everything I've
Speaker 1: to admit is newe to my mi. If you look,
Speaker 1: for example, at kind of the degradation of the working
Speaker 1: class due to you know, what's happening in the education system,
Speaker 1: what's happening in culture. More broadly, we mock communities when
Speaker 1: we say people who go to church, that's ridiculous, that
Speaker 1: all these kind of things, all these things that gave
Speaker 1: meaning to most people, and we have destroyed all these institutions.
Speaker 1: And I think the unease, the psychological anxiety that this
Speaker 1: creates is why people tend to flock to the right.
Speaker 1: So a lot of this is a protest movement against
Speaker 1: the establishment, and very justified. I cannot stress is enough,
Speaker 1: because of course, what people are increasingly seeing is that
Speaker 1: whatever the establishment has put forward in recent years, from
Speaker 1: migration from COVID, from economic policies, you name it, from
Speaker 1: energy policies, all of this has either failed or very
Speaker 1: much increased the cost of living and the burdens that
Speaker 1: they have to carry.
Speaker 2: Well Schulhammer, always fantastic to talk to you. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: And you did predict a year ago that we'd be
Speaker 2: seeing farmers rebellions here in Australia. There was a big
Speaker 2: one in Western Australia just the other day and we'll
Speaker 2: be talking Tony Seabrook about that shortly. Brownph look after
Speaker 2: yourself and we'll chat again soon.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for coming on Outsiders.
Speaker 2: After the break, we'll go to wa to talk to
Speaker 2: Tony Seabrook about those demonstrations in perth On Tribe. You're
Speaker 2: watching Outsiders with Rita Panahee, with James Morrow and with
Speaker 2: myself Ruindan.
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
Speaker 2: On Friday, farmers gathered in their hundreds in Perths CBD
Speaker 2: to protest the Albanese labor government's ban on live sheep exports.
Speaker 2: Joining us with more on this as someone who's there
Speaker 2: at those demonstrations, Tony Seabrook, the president of the West
Speaker 2: Australian Pastoralis and Graziers Association. Tony great to see you
Speaker 2: as always. So you were there on Friday. We had
Speaker 2: a quick chat on Friday morning. You were astonished at
Speaker 2: the number of people who had turned up. It was
Speaker 2: a big show. Just tell us why so, tell us
Speaker 2: why the anger is there. I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people in the distant Eastern States don't quite understand the
Speaker 2: issue around live export. They kind of think, oh, well,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, maswell ban it sounds a bit cruel.
Speaker 3: But what is the issue and why has.
Speaker 2: It galvanized WA to such an extent roll And you use.
Speaker 17: The word one hundreds, let's talk thousands here, good as
Speaker 17: four businesses across the state got out of bed at
Speaker 17: one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning to
Speaker 17: get to the rally points to initiate this actual convoy
Speaker 17: into the CBD. Now there were four convoys, three of
Speaker 17: the major ones. The one I was in. It was
Speaker 17: five kilometers long. And Minister what got up and said
Speaker 17: that said democratic right, this was absolutely huge. We was spontaneous.
Speaker 17: It was hardly even organized the week before when it happened.
Speaker 17: The farmers are just absolutely dead angry at this minister
Speaker 17: that we call four Agriculture. He's not four agriculture. He's
Speaker 17: against us.
Speaker 3: Tell us why.
Speaker 17: Well, they got all acted on a majority or on
Speaker 17: a primary vote of less than thirty percent, and now
Speaker 17: they say they've got a mandate the shutdown a trade.
Speaker 17: What you're seeing in the video footage here are all
Speaker 17: sorts of people, not just just farmers that run livestock.
Speaker 17: There are bolt carriers there, there's everybody in the whole
Speaker 17: State's incensed at what this minister's doing because shutting me
Speaker 17: on this trade is going to kill a lot of
Speaker 17: country towns. A huge number of people are going to
Speaker 17: lose their businesses. Country towns will shrink.
Speaker 8: And what for.
Speaker 17: We're the best in the world, the absolute best in
Speaker 17: the world, and this growing live export trade we set
Speaker 17: the standard everywhere. And this guy's got his marching orders
Speaker 17: from the left, from the Greens, just to get some
Speaker 17: votes out of any city in Melbourne and Sydney's prepared
Speaker 17: to throw austraining farmers under the bus, West train farmers
Speaker 17: under the bus. We are supported across the length and
Speaker 17: the breadth of this country by cattle producers and farmers
Speaker 17: everywhere because they don't like this minister and they don't
Speaker 17: like what he's doing.
Speaker 2: To us and tell us about those standards that you
Speaker 2: say are the best in the world, and why this
Speaker 2: is important for Australia and what are the alternatives? Where
Speaker 2: do people shop Otherwise.
Speaker 17: Look about seven years ago we had that at Washi
Speaker 17: event which no one's proud of. This trade has turned
Speaker 17: itself inside out. We are the exemplar. We are so
Speaker 17: good at what we do that we can load sheep
Speaker 17: on a ship that have already been to the Gulf
Speaker 17: and back again once and take them south South Africa,
Speaker 17: up the Atlantic Ocean through the meta trained to Israel
Speaker 17: fourteen sheep and eighteen sheep out of fourteen thousand sheep.
Speaker 17: This is extraordinary. We are so good at what we
Speaker 17: do and so this has nothing to do with live
Speaker 17: export or the science. This is just about grubby politics.
Speaker 17: He just wants the votes of the Greens and the
Speaker 17: animal welfare people in the inner city of Melbourne and
Speaker 17: Sydney and the destruction that he will cause here. The
Speaker 17: trade will continue. It will not stop. It will continue
Speaker 17: from all sorts of other shitty little places in the
Speaker 17: world that have no standards whatsoever. We're a policeman here.
Speaker 17: He ought to be proud of what we do not
Speaker 17: trying to shut us down.
Speaker 3: Tony Sebrook loved the passion.
Speaker 2: Fantastic, great news and congratulations so all those in wa
Speaker 2: who got out there and spoke with their voices and
Speaker 2: their trucks.
Speaker 3: Tony Sebrook, great to chat to.
Speaker 1: You as always.
Speaker 3: Thanks Matte here on outside as well.
Speaker 2: Let's have a little bit of instant karma. Now, let's
Speaker 2: have a little bit of instant karma. So, Rita, you
Speaker 2: talked about Robert de Niro quite brilliantly there before instant karma.
Speaker 3: What's happened to the poor fellow?
Speaker 5: Well, apparently I've got my doubts about this story, only
Speaker 5: because it's from the Huffington Post, which is another lefty rag,
Speaker 5: and the Independence also reported it. But he had a
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four Service of Leadership award that was coming
Speaker 5: his way.
Speaker 18: Why who knows.
Speaker 6: But after he's well find.
Speaker 5: Spectacle brilliantly outside of Manhattan courtroom, they decided to withdraw
Speaker 5: that because that that could be seen as a bit
Speaker 5: of a distraction and bring a bit of shame uponto
Speaker 5: the award.
Speaker 3: Poor ol Bob Deniero.
Speaker 2: As you said, reader, he should stick to other people
Speaker 2: writing his lines for particularly Martin Scorsese.
Speaker 3: James, let's do a bit of net Zania.
Speaker 2: There's a green project here that is what a surprise, Jans.
Speaker 3: It's actually damaging the environment.
Speaker 8: Well, that's amazing, you know, it's we just sort of
Speaker 8: keep seeing this over and over again. But there's this
Speaker 8: project called the Maya Trade, which is a thirty billion
Speaker 8: dollar project by the Mexican president. Now apparently this is
Speaker 8: going to involve slamming fifteen thousand giant steel posts into
Speaker 8: the ground across Mexico, which is going to destroy the sonotes.
Speaker 8: And if you've ever seen the photos of them, we
Speaker 8: have been there yourself. They're amazing. They're these underground of
Speaker 8: half waterfield caverage. People explore them. They're quite beautiful environmental
Speaker 8: treasures and they exist I think really early in Mexico. Then,
Speaker 8: But of course, you know, the pillar.
Speaker 3: Destroy the planet to save the planet.
Speaker 5: Is there a green project anywhere that you can think
Speaker 5: of the top of your head that actually doesn't do
Speaker 5: monumental damage to the environment. You look at the solar farms,
Speaker 5: you look at the damage stages to the natural the
Speaker 5: onshore offshore wind farms and what they're doing to bird life.
Speaker 8: And you're leaving one out you're leaving on out There
Speaker 8: is one green project that actually you know, has a
Speaker 8: very minimal impact on the environment. It's called nuclear power.
Speaker 2: The ground there, it's called nuclear power, and it is
Speaker 2: the most expensive form of power on the planet except
Speaker 2: except that.
Speaker 8: It isn't You're a whale. There you go a bit of.
Speaker 2: Whacademia for this is this is shocking stuff. Well done
Speaker 2: again to Ben Fordham at t GB for coming out
Speaker 2: with this story. This three year old told to apologize
Speaker 2: to the stolen generation.
Speaker 1: But it is still.
Speaker 9: They're being told to apologize or things that have happened
Speaker 9: over one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago. Now
Speaker 9: my son's done nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: What sort of.
Speaker 9: Guilt are we instilling in young children at the age
Speaker 9: of three and a half years old. This is outageous.
Speaker 2: This hideous brainwashing of children across all walks of life,
Speaker 2: all of it the hard left agenda of climate of gender.
Speaker 2: In this instance of indigenous history, apologize white guilt. It
Speaker 2: is relentless, No wonder our children are so depressed that
Speaker 2: it is child that.
Speaker 5: Is, for a three year old who believes anything you
Speaker 5: tell them that you remember that if anyone who's had
Speaker 5: children remembers them at that age to be saying to them,
Speaker 5: you are guilty of something as highnous as stealing children
Speaker 5: and you need to apologize, because why else would you
Speaker 5: be apologizing if you don't carry some guilt. It is
Speaker 5: not just confusing, but as terrible burden. It is to
Speaker 5: be putting a divisive It doesn't actually have any marriage,
Speaker 5: it has nothing good happen.
Speaker 8: It's not just about making the kid feel bad about themselves.
Speaker 8: It's also really calculated and I think really sinister, because
Speaker 8: the effort of all of these things here is to
Speaker 8: undermine the next generation's faith in Australia as a successful, prosperous,
Speaker 8: tolerant nation that we currently know and love, and to
Speaker 8: replace it with this sort of self loathing government, self
Speaker 8: loathing culture where the left can come in and remake
Speaker 8: it in their own miserable image. That's what the point
Speaker 8: of all of this is. You know, you want to
Speaker 8: know why social cohesion goes down, You want to know
Speaker 8: why all the civics education goes off a cliff. It
Speaker 8: all comes back to this sort of thing where you
Speaker 8: are fundamentally from the very start, from the time they
Speaker 8: get your kids and your grandkids into the classroom and
Speaker 8: can start telling them things that you don't know. They're
Speaker 8: telling them that they get them. They will be telling
Speaker 8: them that this ain't a great country and they should
Speaker 8: be ashamed of it, and that they should then you know,
Speaker 8: of course, anything about preserving the nation of the flag Australia, Ay,
Speaker 8: anything about that, that's all evil And of course you
Speaker 8: going to grow up with a bunch of miserable kids
Speaker 8: who hate Australia and that's not what we wanted.
Speaker 2: Gills hate themselves exactly. But don't think you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think. Ah, if my pandas the Left, then it's
Speaker 2: all going to be okay because they're busy attacking them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I might as well let my kid be brainwashed into
Speaker 2: this indigenous stuff because you know, don't grow up and
Speaker 2: the left will never attack them.
Speaker 13: Wrong.
Speaker 2: What we see in Canada, the Vancouver Comic Arts Festival
Speaker 2: as banned a very kind of woke appearing comedian because
Speaker 2: she's Jewish.
Speaker 3: Have a look here.
Speaker 2: We go, yep, Vancouver Comics Festival bands Jewish artist Miriam Leviiki.
Speaker 3: Overpassed IDF service, so she's.
Speaker 2: Been banned because she served for her country on the
Speaker 2: Israeli Rowan.
Speaker 5: There's been an update. They have apologized the organizers.
Speaker 3: No no, not to her, Sorry to the stolen generations.
Speaker 5: Maybe no, no, they've apologized for booking her in the
Speaker 5: first place, given apology, but not to this woman that
Speaker 5: they're discriminating against. But this is what I keep saying
Speaker 5: about the culture wars, as so many conservatives people on
Speaker 5: the right to dismiss them, and sadly many of the
Speaker 5: politicians on the right.
Speaker 6: You may not care about.
Speaker 5: The culture wars, but the culture wars care about you.
Speaker 5: We're going to impact you and your family, whether you
Speaker 5: like it or not. So you better get interested if
Speaker 5: you actually care about these consequential issues, because.
Speaker 6: They are not going to go away.
Speaker 5: They're not going to stop telling your kids that they
Speaker 5: should be ashamed of their whiteness, that should be ashamed
Speaker 5: of their country, that they're on stolen land, all this
Speaker 5: nonsense that you know, they need to announce their pronouns
Speaker 5: at the start of each class.
Speaker 6: That's happening at.
Speaker 5: Some university courses where they introduce and part of the
Speaker 5: introduction is to announce your pronouns.
Speaker 3: Jane's very quickly Bob mcquaid's book on.
Speaker 8: Oh this is great I love this. So she's written
Speaker 8: a whole book on disinformation, and she tweets, well, here
Speaker 8: it is the completed draft of my book on disinformation.
Speaker 8: I've just submitted the manuscript. And then somebody's gone back
Speaker 8: and doug out a tweet from twenty twenty when she says, yes,
Speaker 8: the laptop, the Hunter laptop is Russia. So she's the
Speaker 8: disinformation expert spreading the Russia hopes. I love it, Brelliant.
Speaker 5: Just about every single disinformation expert activist is a spreader
Speaker 5: of disinformation.
Speaker 6: It's not true, difficult to work at at.
Speaker 2: After the break we'll look at labours, utter, incompetency, unity. Hello,
Speaker 2: you're watching Outsiders with Rita Drain the swamp, Panahee, James
Speaker 2: Bungling bureaucrats tomorrow and myself Rowan pumped the Burley Griffin
Speaker 2: Bilger's Dean.
Speaker 3: I have often commented.
Speaker 2: On and written about the three eyes that define the
Speaker 2: Albanese government and the overpaid so Humphreys of Canberra. Every
Speaker 2: single action taken can be defined by ideology, idiocy and incompetence.
Speaker 2: This week, I'm sorry to say it was no exception
Speaker 2: on virtually every front. This is not only a government
Speaker 2: mind in ideology and idiocy, but a Canberra bureaucracy of
Speaker 2: public servants who have incompetence as their overriding KPI. More
Speaker 2: of that in a sec but first exhibit A. We
Speaker 2: had the great news this week of the failure of
Speaker 2: the World Health Organization's sinister and Orwellian attempt to seize
Speaker 2: global power through a Global Pandemic treaty. The World Health
Speaker 2: Assembly could not reach an agreement, the vote failed, and
Speaker 2: the treaty collapsed.
Speaker 3: Excellent news.
Speaker 2: But of course, like the Voice, these leftists will keep
Speaker 2: on trying to sneak this thing through one way or another,
Speaker 2: and indeed they've said this morning they will get it
Speaker 2: through by May next year. But for the meantime, let's
Speaker 2: enjoy the victory. I've been warning about this Global Pandemic
Speaker 2: treaty for several years on this show. Many have said,
Speaker 2: fairly in my opinion, that giving the World Health Organization
Speaker 2: the sort of powers they wanted would make COVID look
Speaker 2: like a picnic. Of course, it's worth remembering that it
Speaker 2: was Labor who gave us the Dan Andrew's COVID regime,
Speaker 2: the most draconian and sinister in the Western world, right
Speaker 2: up there with China and other authoritarian dictatorships. None of
Speaker 2: the police, by the way, who choked women, shot rubber
Speaker 2: bullets at innocent protesters, through people to the ground, smashed
Speaker 2: bystanders with rifle butts, or ran them over with their
Speaker 2: cars has been put in prison, which is where they
Speaker 2: be long So in life of all that authoritarian brutality,
Speaker 2: how do you think the Albanesi government approached the World
Speaker 2: Health Organization Pandemic Treaty vote. Surely any self respecting Australian
Speaker 2: government would have been at the forefront of Western democracies
Speaker 2: insisting that what we learned from COVID is not to
Speaker 2: take the medical authorities and bureaucrats as gospel, not to
Speaker 2: go down the totalitarian pathway of lockdowns and mandates. Surely
Speaker 2: the Albanesi government would have been urging restraint they are
Speaker 2: so fond of doing in other areas. Nope, have a
Speaker 2: listen to Labour's Federal Health Minister Mark Butler earlier this week,
Speaker 2: just as the Global Pandemic Treaty was being voted on.
Speaker 19: Australia is invested in the future of whow to ensuring
Speaker 19: its responsive and sustainably financed to fulfill its Mandate. We're
Speaker 19: also fully committed to concluding the Whhow Pandemic Agreement. Together,
Speaker 19: we've made considerable progress in our shared ambition towards a
Speaker 19: set of binding international commitments for pandemic prevention, preparedness and response,
Speaker 19: and we have a strong basis on which to finalize
Speaker 19: important amendments to the international Health regulations this week. I
Speaker 19: urge all member states to redouble their efforts to resolve
Speaker 19: the remaining challenges and seize this opportunity to agree critical
Speaker 19: reforms to our global health architecture, because we simply cannot
Speaker 19: afford to fail.
Speaker 3: What a disgrace. There you have it in a nut.
Speaker 2: The ideology hand over our sovereignty as a nation to
Speaker 2: unelected internationalists. The idiocy fortify and strengthen our binding commitments
Speaker 2: to some overseas mob thereby ignoring everything we learned during
Speaker 2: COVID about the deadly dangers of bureaucratic overreach and the incompetence.
Speaker 2: Well the treaty failed. Thank goodness, nobody listens to Mark Butler.
Speaker 2: The ideology and idiocy were on display in a particularly
Speaker 2: amusing and ironical way this week on several domestic fronts.
Speaker 3: Unashamed about her.
Speaker 2: Own role in the disgraceful Victorian government's COVID police brutality.
Speaker 2: Premier Jacinta Allan literally stunned the world when this week
Speaker 2: she announced a Parliamentary Secretary for Men's Behavior Change. As
Speaker 2: Terry Barnes wrote brilliantly in the UK Spectator, quote this week,
Speaker 2: Jasina Allan has put Victoria on the international map with
Speaker 2: one of the most bizarre pieces of identity politics yet seen.
Speaker 3: From a Western government.
Speaker 2: He went on, Terry Alan is playing gesture politics with
Speaker 2: an untrue and judgmental generalization about men in Australian society,
Speaker 2: with a gimmick that has made her, her government and
Speaker 2: the state of Victoria an international laughing stock.
Speaker 3: End of quote.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is socialist silliness on steroids. The ideology all
Speaker 2: white Christian heterosexual males are oppressors and women bashers or.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 2: The idiocy, or rather the unfathomable hypocrisy, is that on
Speaker 2: the very same day we learned that there are some
Speaker 2: men behaving very badly in Australia. They are the rapists
Speaker 2: and pedophiles who have been allowed to remain in Australia
Speaker 2: rather than being deported as a result of a direction
Speaker 2: made by just into Alan's lay labor colleagues in the
Speaker 2: Albanese government, in particular the hopeless Immigration Minister Andrew Giles.
Speaker 2: So while over here a labor government is looking around
Speaker 2: for men.
Speaker 3: Whose behavior they can change, over there, a.
Speaker 2: Labor government is allowing hundreds of the worst sort of
Speaker 2: men who should be in detention or be deported to
Speaker 2: Rome free, raping and bashing women.
Speaker 3: What sickening hypocrisy. As I say, at.
Speaker 2: The intersection where ideology meets idiocy, idiocy, you will always
Speaker 2: find a labor politician. But now let's get to the incompetence.
Speaker 2: And this is breathtakingly terrifying. You know, I'm a big
Speaker 2: fan of Liberal Senator for Victoria James Patterson, and the
Speaker 2: work he does holding labor and the Canberra bureaucrats to
Speaker 2: account is superb No more so than this week, with
Speaker 2: the help of this news network. Here he is the
Speaker 2: Senate to quizzing the buff eds, that's the polite word,
Speaker 2: Labor Minister Murray Watt and his top bureaucrat, Stephanie Foster
Speaker 2: from the Department of Home Affairs, about those very same
Speaker 2: men who had their deportations reversed by labor to terrorize
Speaker 2: everyday Australians.
Speaker 20: In a new case uncovered by The Australian, British born
Speaker 20: masseur and rapist Charles William Davidson in February had the
Speaker 20: cancelation of his visa revoked despite having been convicted of
Speaker 20: eight counts of rape, forty eight counts of sexual assault
Speaker 20: and three counts of indecent treatment of children under sixteen.
Speaker 20: In sentencing, the judges said the serial rapist has demonstrated
Speaker 20: absolutely no remorse whatsoever, and it goes on. This is
Speaker 20: absolutely horrific offending. This is a textbook case of someone
Speaker 20: who should not be in our community, regardless of how
Speaker 20: long they are here. How on earth have we found
Speaker 20: ourselves in a situation where as a result of a
Speaker 20: ministry or direction, the AAT is allowing people like this
Speaker 20: to stay in our country.
Speaker 21: Well, I think you know, you have just pointed us
Speaker 21: to an article that none of us have had an
Speaker 21: opportunity to read, let alone fact check. So I think
Speaker 21: we would probably need a little bit of time to.
Speaker 9: Do that.
Speaker 20: I mean, it's just on a human level, short that
Speaker 20: you can react to the information.
Speaker 21: Well, I'd want to make sure that everything in the
Speaker 21: article is accurate to begin with, I'm not saying it's not.
Speaker 21: I just don't know.
Speaker 7: This decision was in February. This is not a long
Speaker 7: time ago. The department should be across this case is
Speaker 7: the department where of this case?
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything more disgraceful in your entire life?
Speaker 2: These fools have no idea what is going on in
Speaker 2: their own department. So violent serial rapist spared deportation because
Speaker 2: of bureaucratic idiocy or incompetence and have to be informed.
Speaker 2: They have to be informed by the Australian newspaper. But
Speaker 2: wait for it, this hapless fool Murray what then literally
Speaker 2: admits listen that the government has no idea what it
Speaker 2: is doing and only reacts to events rather than anticipating them.
Speaker 2: The absolute hallmark, as any CEO or business person knows
Speaker 2: of amateur hour incompetence.
Speaker 20: But we now have circa thirty cases where consistently AAT
Speaker 20: members are making decisions to overturn the cancelation of a
Speaker 20: visa and citing this provision of the Minister's guidance.
Speaker 7: One we could.
Speaker 20: Attribute to them and be their fault, but this is systemic.
Speaker 20: This is happening across the board. How is it not
Speaker 20: a result of the direction?
Speaker 21: Well, that is, and that now that the Minister is
Speaker 21: aware of those cases, he is taking action.
Speaker 2: Now have a listened to Stephanie Foster, Sir Humphrey, sorry,
Speaker 2: the Lady Humphrey at Home Affairs, who received a Public
Speaker 2: Service Medal in two thousand and eight for outstanding public service,
Speaker 2: and who was rumored to have been on an annual
Speaker 2: to be on an annual salary of nine hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty eight thousand dollars, who was according to the financial
Speaker 2: review appointed by the Albanesi Labor government in November last
Speaker 2: year quote without a competitive selection process.
Speaker 20: Secretary, how is it that the Australian newspaper can identify
Speaker 20: dozens of these cases and the Minister's office cart.
Speaker 22: So, Senator.
Speaker 2: I repeat, a rumored salary of nine hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars per appointed, not by an open merit
Speaker 2: based process, and unable to answer why a couple of
Speaker 2: journals at News Corps are capable of doing a far
Speaker 2: better job than the armies and armies of bureaucrats in camera.
Speaker 2: But as I always say, why stop at one useless
Speaker 2: canra public servant? When you've got a whole city full
Speaker 2: of them to choose from.
Speaker 15: So what that paragraph that you just called out is
Speaker 15: about saying within that one primary consideration that more weight
Speaker 15: is to be given to time spent in Australia in
Speaker 15: a person's earlier formative.
Speaker 7: Years, regardless of the level of their offending.
Speaker 15: So Senator, that's no, that says regardless when they're offending
Speaker 15: commenced and the level of that offendee.
Speaker 7: Yes, so regardless of their level of offending.
Speaker 2: Yes, these are the people, those bureaucrats we pay astronomical
Speaker 2: amount of money too, and who are charged with running
Speaker 2: this country. You may think they are worth every penny.
Speaker 2: I respectfully disagree.
Speaker 20: We all know about this issue now, it's out in
Speaker 20: the open. It's been there since late last week. The
Speaker 20: Australian is continuing as a newspaper organization, being not informed
Speaker 20: by you, to find these cases that then get subsequently
Speaker 20: added to the Minister's list of cases to look at
Speaker 20: for the department. How is it that you're not finding
Speaker 20: these cases? How is it that the Minister's office is
Speaker 20: not finding these cases with all the resources of government,
Speaker 20: and the Minister's just asked that you add to the
Speaker 20: list these cases found by The Australian that presumably he
Speaker 20: wasn't aware of an hour ago, otherwise it would have
Speaker 20: already been on your list. He's only aware of it
Speaker 20: because it's gone up on the Australian online. And I
Speaker 20: just asked Minister what about it?
Speaker 10: And Senative we're working as fast as we can through
Speaker 10: all of the relevant can.
Speaker 7: Fastest to journalists at the Australian. Apparent.
Speaker 2: Bravo, Senator Patterson, well done mate. Equally impressive this week
Speaker 2: was Sarah Henderson, also from Victoria, questioning the utterly useless
Speaker 2: and incompetent Australian Human Rights Commission and their president Rosalind Croucher.
Speaker 3: She is only on a poultry salary, you know, a lazy.
Speaker 2: Half million dollars per annum over their complete failure to
Speaker 2: condemn Hamas, complete failure to condemn the Sydney Opera House,
Speaker 2: vile gas the.
Speaker 3: Jews, where's the Jews riots?
Speaker 2: And complete failure to stem the horrific upsurge in anti Semitism.
Speaker 2: Some highlights and a quick lesson in obfuscation and evasiveness
Speaker 2: to put it politely.
Speaker 23: Just to clarify my question, have you put out a
Speaker 23: statement condemning the conduct of Hammas, or mention or a
Speaker 23: statement that mentions Hummas.
Speaker 24: Technic.
Speaker 22: Yes, I'm hesitating only because I will would not like
Speaker 22: to give an inaccurate answer.
Speaker 23: Well, I've reviewed your media releases and there's no mention
Speaker 23: of Hummas. And I look at your media release of
Speaker 23: the thirteenth of October twenty twenty three, and again there's
Speaker 23: no mention of the Hummas terrorist attack. That's very concerning,
Speaker 23: I would put to you President.
Speaker 22: The Commission's approach has been to acknowledge the crisis that
Speaker 22: has arisen, to speak about the mandate that we have
Speaker 22: within Australia, which is to focus upon the impacts of
Speaker 22: that crisis on our people. Here, the rise in anti Semitism,
Speaker 22: the rise in anti Palestinian and anti Arab attacks, Islamophobia.
Speaker 23: So Hummus is a listed terrorist organization in Australia. A
Speaker 23: review of your website shows there's no mention of the
Speaker 23: word Hummus. Do you not acknowledge the horrific impact that
Speaker 23: the Hummus terrorist attack has had on Australians.
Speaker 22: All of our focus has been on that horrific attack.
Speaker 23: Indeed, so there was no mention of the Hummas terrorists, though,
Speaker 23: is there any reason why that's the case?
Speaker 22: We referred to we have referred to the attacks in October,
Speaker 22: and we've referred to the hostages issue if you want
Speaker 22: that particular word. The word hammus may not have been used,
Speaker 22: but the context of all of our statements clearly draws
Speaker 22: attention to the impact of the attacks of seventh of
Speaker 22: October and all of the impact on people in Australia
Speaker 22: who have inherited trauma that they carry.
Speaker 23: Because on a review of your media releases, you haven't
Speaker 23: put out a media release responding to the wave of
Speaker 23: anti Semitic attacks across Australia. And I would also ask
Speaker 23: you about did you put out a release condemning the
Speaker 23: protests by pro Humas individuals at the Opera House.
Speaker 22: All of our material, Senator, refers to the impact on
Speaker 22: all of the community.
Speaker 23: I just ask you to address that question, please, President.
Speaker 3: The communities were mentioned in the thirteen October.
Speaker 22: And yeah, the communities affected were mentioned in our releases
Speaker 22: on the thirteenth of October and the twenty ninth of January.
Speaker 22: We may not have referred to the specific incidents that
Speaker 22: you are calling out. However, the entire tenor of the
Speaker 22: suite of media releases and other engagement, both public and
Speaker 22: with communities, is focused on addressing the very real impacts
Speaker 22: on the communities affected in Australia.
Speaker 2: The tenor of the suite whoa, whoah got that's it's
Speaker 2: the Australian Human Rights Commission President attacks on Palestinians, Arabs
Speaker 2: really inherited trauma, impacts on communities, Suite of whatever. This
Speaker 2: is delusional left wing jargon and woke spin on steroids. Bureaucracies,
Speaker 2: I'm afraid are a joke. We'd be better off keeping
Speaker 2: our tax dollars and put that lot out to pasture. Seriously,
Speaker 2: this country is being run by fools and worst leftist ideologues,
Speaker 2: the ideology, the idiocy and the incompetence Labour's three eyes.
Speaker 2: The sooner we get a change of government, the better.
Speaker 3: For aud Us.
Speaker 2: Well, someone who was at those Senate Estimates hearings and
Speaker 2: talking to bureaucrats. I don't know how he managed to
Speaker 2: do it, but was of course New South Wales new
Speaker 2: Senator Dave Sharma, who joins us here on the desk
Speaker 2: in Sydney on Outsiders. Dave, great to have you here
Speaker 2: on Outsiders you were there at Senate Estimates hearings, do
Speaker 2: you ask some very pertinent questions.
Speaker 3: You didn't seem to get any answers.
Speaker 2: But that seems to be the way it runs over
Speaker 2: there about the fact that a bunch several hundred bureaucrats
Speaker 2: had signed letters basically condemning Israel, blaming Israel genocide and
Speaker 2: all sorts of horrible language, very very political. And the
Speaker 2: point you were making, I think, I don't want to
Speaker 2: put words in your mouth.
Speaker 3: Is that the public service is supposed to be a
Speaker 3: political absolutely.
Speaker 25: So there's a letter that's apparently been signed by eight
Speaker 25: hundred and seventy one public servants federal, state, and local government.
Speaker 25: But I mean they condemned the government's policy, they demand
Speaker 25: changes in government policy, they sign their names to it,
Speaker 25: they put their departments. This is not what a public
Speaker 25: service is meant to do. A public servant meant to
Speaker 25: serve the elected government of the day. So I did
Speaker 25: take this up with the Secretary of the Department of Arts,
Speaker 25: and I'll be taking it up next week as well
Speaker 25: with all other secretaries. It's unbelievable, it's outrageous that you
Speaker 25: know it's up there with the ABC journalists, you know,
Speaker 25: it's worse in some respects journalists at least they have
Speaker 25: a public voice, public servants and meant to be advising ministers,
Speaker 25: but they're not meant to be taking part in publicly
Speaker 25: advocating for government now.
Speaker 2: Side Morning Herald had to go at you this week
Speaker 2: for appearing with David Adda and the Australian Jewish Association
Speaker 2: David Adams often on this show and on Sky they
Speaker 2: had to go at you, which was pretty low brow.
Speaker 2: You were the ambassador in Israel, you have been, and
Speaker 2: you were the member for Wentworth for a long time,
Speaker 2: a large Jewish constituency. What has been the impact of
Speaker 2: October seventh on the Jewish communities of Australia and have
Speaker 2: the government done enough to address that?
Speaker 25: Well, the impact has been massive. I don't think the
Speaker 25: Jewish community in Australia has ever felt as unsafe or
Speaker 25: threatened as they have in the wake of the seventh
Speaker 25: of October. And I think frankly they'd been let down
Speaker 25: by their political leadership and their government. It's failed to
Speaker 25: give a clear signal about the unacceptable rise in anti
Speaker 25: Semitism and as a result, it's given a lice to
Speaker 25: a whole lot of awful sentiments towards Jewish people that
Speaker 25: have basically been allowed to run rampant. So I think
Speaker 25: the Jewish community feels let down, they feel besieged, they
Speaker 25: feel threatened, and they wonder what's become of the Australia
Speaker 25: that has been their home, many of them since Australia's settlement.
Speaker 25: You know, the Jewish population Australia goes back to the
Speaker 25: first Fleet, many of them who came here in the
Speaker 25: wake of the Second World War, fleeing the Holocaust and
Speaker 25: building a life here, many of whom have helped make
Speaker 25: Australia tremendously prosperous, successful, innovative, cultural and rich nation. And
Speaker 25: they're wondering there's still a home for us here. We're
Speaker 25: still welcome here.
Speaker 5: I want to get back to this hit job at
Speaker 5: the Sidney Morning Herald launched against Australian Jewish Association.
Speaker 6: What's your response to that?
Speaker 5: Because they quoted labor MPs who were accusing you of
Speaker 5: encouraging extremism. I'm laughing because it's so utterly absurd on
Speaker 5: the face of it, but this was in a major
Speaker 5: Australian newspaper.
Speaker 6: What's your response to.
Speaker 25: Well, Look, the Australian Jewish Association represents part of the
Speaker 25: Jewish community in Australia. I don't pretend they and they
Speaker 25: don't pretend they represent all of it. And as far
Speaker 25: as I'm aware, they have not been calling for the
Speaker 25: destruction of a nascent Palestinian state. They have not been
Speaker 25: saying death to our Arabs or gas the Arabs. They
Speaker 25: have not been agitating protests, they have not been calling
Speaker 25: for property damage.
Speaker 8: But we have labor MPs who meet.
Speaker 25: All the time with the Australian Palestine Advocacy Network. Penny
Speaker 25: Wong met with Nasal Imagining just a few days after
Speaker 25: the October seventh at text. Now our APAN has called
Speaker 25: for the destruction of the Jewish state, the elimination of
Speaker 25: the state of Israel. They're behind They're behind this letter,
Speaker 25: open signed letter by public servants. They're behind a number
Speaker 25: of the protests on university campuses.
Speaker 3: But that's not supporting extremely for some reason.
Speaker 25: That's like, that's not supporting a Jewish organization does not.
Speaker 8: James, Senator, I want to ask you though about Anthony
Speaker 8: albert easiest performance through all of this since October seventh,
Speaker 8: it seems like time and time again he has had
Speaker 8: to be dragged to do the right thing and speak
Speaker 8: on the side of Israel and in support of the
Speaker 8: Jewish community, while at the same time playing foot see
Speaker 8: and seeing something else to other communities. How would you
Speaker 8: rate the job that the Prime Minister has done? And
Speaker 8: do you think that he has control of the narrative
Speaker 8: or is the narrative on the issue for the government
Speaker 8: now being controlled by a the Greens and hard left
Speaker 8: members of the Labor Party and b by some other
Speaker 8: multicultural communities that are quite anti Israel.
Speaker 25: I don't think he has control of the narrative. I
Speaker 25: don't think he's been leading on this at all. I
Speaker 25: think the most generous assessment you could say of him
Speaker 25: is he's been like a deer in the headlights. He's
Speaker 25: sort of reacting to whatever has just happened. But he
Speaker 25: doesn't have a view of what the position is that
Speaker 25: he should be taking or the government should be taking.
Speaker 25: And you've got, I mean tremendous ill discipline amongst all
Speaker 25: his senior front bench, which means there's a whole variety
Speaker 25: of messages out there and the community doesn't know what
Speaker 25: it is that they're trying to listen to it.
Speaker 5: He had a labor m P in the Upper House
Speaker 5: repeat the phrase from the river resentency.
Speaker 6: Now what action has he taken there to?
Speaker 5: I know he has said that that is a phrase
Speaker 5: that is unacceptable, that promotes violence, and then he has
Speaker 5: his own MP out of those words.
Speaker 6: What's he doing about it? What strong action is something?
Speaker 25: I mean, the truth is he hasn't even spoken to
Speaker 25: her about this. There's been no discipline, no consequences. You've
Speaker 25: got to remember, in any other area, in labor is
Speaker 25: a tightly wrung, highly hierarchical, disciplined, organized machine. You don't
Speaker 25: get to speak out against labor policy and your political
Speaker 25: career survive. There's not a sort of broad Church exactly.
Speaker 25: But the fact that this has been about to run
Speaker 25: it suggests to me that they're almost trying to send
Speaker 25: out a whole lot of multiple messages to multiple communities.
Speaker 6: He just running scared.
Speaker 5: Is he too terrified to take strong action against this
Speaker 5: MP because that is going to antagonize those very communities
Speaker 5: that he's trying.
Speaker 6: To appease by absolutely playing both sides.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just want to quickly ask you, Dave about
Speaker 2: the teals because Israel has the Knesset is declaring or
Speaker 2: wants to declare ANOIR, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency,
Speaker 2: as a terrorist organization. Now you were defeated by a
Speaker 2: Teal in the seat of Wentworth. The Teals signed a
Speaker 2: letter I've got the letter I did, calling for the
Speaker 2: refunding read more refinancing and refunding of austrating tax dollars
Speaker 2: to UNWAR.
Speaker 3: That was a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: Penny Wog immediately did that at arguably at the behest
Speaker 2: of the Teals, but certainly with the support of the
Speaker 2: Teals the seat of Wentworth. How do they respond to
Speaker 2: a leg respender, the person who defeated you, running around
Speaker 2: asking for the support of UNWAR, which the Kanesset are
Speaker 2: now declaring a terrorist organization.
Speaker 25: And which was found to be complicit in the October
Speaker 25: seventh terrorist yes under employees who some of them literally
Speaker 25: crossed the fence into Israel and committed murders and any
Speaker 25: number of atrocities. Jewish community in Wentworth is appalled by
Speaker 25: this because they recognize that has but on its hands
Speaker 25: as a result of the seventh of October, and UNR
Speaker 25: is part of the problem, not part of a solution.
Speaker 25: So the fact that someone who purports to represent the
Speaker 25: largest Jewish community in Sydney is saying the government should
Speaker 25: start funding this again.
Speaker 8: They just think is preposterous.
Speaker 25: It's detached from reality and it's incredibly unhelpful. They say
Speaker 25: it as a hostile act.
Speaker 2: Well, I think they've got the next election in which
Speaker 2: they can perhaps re correct that era that they made.
Speaker 2: Dave Shanna, thanks for coming on, Outsiders Or is great
Speaker 2: to chat to you, and good luck.
Speaker 3: They're at Senate estimates next week.
Speaker 8: Look forward to.
Speaker 3: Seeing what you're going to do. They're fantastic. After the break,
Speaker 3: James is don't give a more Trump in a tick.
Speaker 8: Welcome back to the program. I'm James Morrow here with
Speaker 8: my colleagues Rowan, Too Big to Rig, Dean and Rita.
Speaker 8: They've crossed the Ruba Khan panahe. This week, of course,
Speaker 8: saw the historic conviction of Donald Trump on a whole
Speaker 8: load of jump jumped up hush money election interference charges,
Speaker 8: which we're going to go through in a minute. Before
Speaker 8: we do that, I wanted to share a bit of
Speaker 8: this ad the Trump team shared just twenty four hours
Speaker 8: before the verdict came down, and which suggests Team Trump
Speaker 8: might be keeping a bit of an eye on this
Speaker 8: yere network.
Speaker 26: Thank you for joining us here today. Earlier this afternoon,
Speaker 26: Donald Trump was arranged by a Manhattan grand jury on
Speaker 26: thirty four felony counts.
Speaker 8: This case is an abomination.
Speaker 7: You know, it's obviously political. Seven years and try to
Speaker 7: come up with this case. They're just wrong on the law.
Speaker 27: The only crime that Jnald Trump is being prosecuted for
Speaker 27: is the crime of running for president.
Speaker 7: Political persecution at the highest level.
Speaker 27: They've quite frankly given up on trying to meeting at
Speaker 27: the polls, either going to steal it or stop it
Speaker 27: by law.
Speaker 8: For a Democrat prosecutor. Let did it on a Get
Speaker 8: Trump platform.
Speaker 2: What's going on here is a disgusting disgrace. Hey on,
Speaker 2: that was je that was James Lawd Did you see
Speaker 2: that raising.
Speaker 8: But there was a clip from the US Report with
Speaker 8: James Borrow, which you can walk in on this station
Speaker 8: every Friday night at eight pm. Now, yes, thank you.
Speaker 8: Now let's get to let's get to the fallout from
Speaker 8: that verdict in the hush money case out of New York,
Speaker 8: which came down again late Thursday afternoon Manhattan time. And
Speaker 8: let's just say, well, if they thought they got in Trump.
Speaker 8: Oh we got him this time. The left has another
Speaker 8: thing coming because the whole case obviously appeared to have
Speaker 8: been deliberately engineered with one aim in mind, getting a
Speaker 8: guilty verdict and hanging that felon tag around Donald Trump's
Speaker 8: neck to hurt his chances in the November election. And
Speaker 8: guess what how is that working out for them? Well,
Speaker 8: it turns out that in the twenty four hours after
Speaker 8: the verdict, the Trump campaign raised nearly fifty three million dollars,
Speaker 8: around a third of that being from donors who were
Speaker 8: first time donors to the campaign, suggesting that a lot
Speaker 8: of Americans have woken up to the lawfare being committed
Speaker 8: in their name. And by the way, notice that Trump
Speaker 8: supporters didn't go out and riot when the court case
Speaker 8: didn't go their way, which is what the left normally does. Now,
Speaker 8: this figure fifty three million dollars is more than the
Speaker 8: entire Biden and Democrat campaigns raised in April, a month
Speaker 8: that saw Trump outfund raise the Democrats by nearly twenty
Speaker 8: million dollars. And in a sign of things to come
Speaker 8: with big tech, Google is not making it simple for
Speaker 8: people who want to give to the Trump campaign. If
Speaker 8: you look and you start typing, as I did yesterday,
Speaker 8: the words donate to Trump into Google, well, it'll suggest
Speaker 8: ways to donate to trans youth and to replanting and
Speaker 8: something called the Russell Trust, which seems to be a
Speaker 8: food bank charity in the UK. Go figure. That's not
Speaker 8: going to stop them, by the way, because reports are
Speaker 8: just coming down that the Trump campaign is on track
Speaker 8: to raise one hundred and fifty million dollars by the
Speaker 8: time this weekend is out. I'm not sure why though
Speaker 8: big tech would be so scared of Donald Trump anyway,
Speaker 8: but there you have it. Anyway, there is also more
Speaker 8: fallout to come here because one of the things you
Speaker 8: will have shortly heard from Democrats over the past forty
Speaker 8: eight hours is well, this conviction was secured by following
Speaker 8: the law, and conservatives should not question that because to
Speaker 8: do so is to invite lawlessness. Well, sorry, that's nonsense,
Speaker 8: because of course this is pretty rich from the side
Speaker 8: of politics that every time something doesn't go their way,
Speaker 8: as I say, they hold a riot. But here we are,
Speaker 8: and it is becoming clear that from the start this
Speaker 8: was a stitch up, a classic stitch up. Dirict Attorney
Speaker 8: Alvin Bragg in New York campaign for office on the
Speaker 8: basis that he was going to go after Trump, and
Speaker 8: he used his previous experience suing the Trump organization as
Speaker 8: a selling point, a plank of his campaign platform, as
Speaker 8: this interview on local New York radio station Hot ninety
Speaker 8: seven three years ago makes clear.
Speaker 2: But one of the things leading into this vote for
Speaker 2: the Manhattan District Attorney's office, I know a lot of
Speaker 2: people are wondering, whoever has this job?
Speaker 3: Are they going to convict Donald Trump?
Speaker 26: Look, that is the number one issue. I'm the candidate
Speaker 26: in the race who has the experience with Donald Trump.
Speaker 26: I was the chief deputy in the Toorney General's office.
Speaker 26: We sued the Trump administration over one hundred times for
Speaker 26: the Muslim travel band, for family separation at the border,
Speaker 26: for shenanigans with the Census, so I know how to
Speaker 26: litigate with him. I also led the team that did
Speaker 26: the Trump Foundation case. So I'm ready to go wherever
Speaker 26: the facts take me and to inherit that case. And
Speaker 26: I think, you know, I'd be hard to argue with
Speaker 26: the fact that that'd be the most important, most high
Speaker 26: profile case. And I've seen him up front and seen
Speaker 26: the lawlessness that he can do.
Speaker 8: Yeah, think about that. The number one issue in New
Speaker 8: York for the lead prosecutor, not crime on the street,
Speaker 8: not drugs, not illegal immigration, Donald Trump. But there's a
Speaker 8: lot more to this because not only all of that,
Speaker 8: it can also be revealed that this man, Matthew Colangelo,
Speaker 8: the lead prosecutor and Alvin Bragg's hush money team, is
Speaker 8: a political consultant who has previously been on the payroll
Speaker 8: for the Democrat National Committee. Oh and there's even more.
Speaker 8: The daughter of the judge in the hush money case
Speaker 8: where Donald Trump was just convicted and where he might
Speaker 8: be sentenced to prison just days before the Republican National Convention. Well,
Speaker 8: the daughter she works for a Democrat consulting firm that
Speaker 8: raised ninety million dollars off the case by campaign emails
Speaker 8: and other tactics. Now, if this is all starting to
Speaker 8: smell a bit whiffy, well it turns out that even
Speaker 8: people you would normally expect to be on the Get
Speaker 8: Trump bandwagon are starting to have second thoughts. In this piece,
Speaker 8: CNN legal analyst and former state and federal prosecutor Eli
Speaker 8: Honing has offered some startling insights when it comes to
Speaker 8: the way the prosecutors stretched a minor bookkeeping misdemeanor to
Speaker 8: take it much broader and more serious election laws. Honing
Speaker 8: in this article Rights in New York magazine, quote, the
Speaker 8: charges against Trump are obscure and nearly entirely unprecedented. In fact,
Speaker 8: no state prosecutor in New York or Why Oh or
Speaker 8: anywhere has ever charged federal election laws as a direct
Speaker 8: or predicate state crime against anyone for anything, none ever, unquote.
Speaker 8: And then Hone goes on to say more. He says, quote,
Speaker 8: the charges against Trump aren't just unusual, they're bespoke, seemingly
Speaker 8: crafted individually for the former president and nobody else unquote. Well, sorry,
Speaker 8: that's not the America I grew up in. And all
Speaker 8: of this is why I think, far from being repelled
Speaker 8: by Trump's felony convictions, voters are going to flock to
Speaker 8: the man because they are offended by the sense of
Speaker 8: injustice and how unfair suspicion that in America now anybody
Speaker 8: who the government doesn't like can now be put through
Speaker 8: the ringer by the state.
Speaker 2: Well, let's get the latest news on Donald Trump's guilty
Speaker 2: verdict with President of the Center of the American experiment
Speaker 2: and from the power Line blog John Heindereker. John, always
Speaker 2: great to see you.
Speaker 3: You were sitting up.
Speaker 2: There on the wall on November twenty twenty when I
Speaker 2: asked you whether the election had been stolen by the Democrats,
Speaker 2: and you said, well, if it wasn't stolen, it wasn't
Speaker 2: for want of trying on part of the Democrats. Now,
Speaker 2: is this guilty verdict the greatest election interference ploy yet
Speaker 2: from the Democrats?
Speaker 3: What's your take on it, John, Well, right.
Speaker 1: It absolutely is.
Speaker 27: I mean, as a matter of law, this prosecution is
Speaker 27: a complete joke. I mean, there are many reasons for that.
Speaker 27: If you want to talk about them, we can. But
Speaker 27: it was never about the law. And whoever said that
Speaker 27: this was a prosecution tailored to one man, and one man, oldly,
Speaker 27: Donald Trump, that is exactly correct. No one else has
Speaker 27: ever been charged with anything like this in New York
Speaker 27: State or anywhere else. This was a political prosecution, and
Speaker 27: the whole motive behind it was so that the Democrats
Speaker 27: and the you know, the mainstream press, which is one
Speaker 27: hundred percent controlled by the Democratic Party in America, can
Speaker 27: constantly refer to Donald Trump as a convicted felt That
Speaker 27: is what they were trying to achieve Donald Trump the
Speaker 27: convicted felon, and however ridiculous the prosecution may have been,
Speaker 27: they did achieve that goal.
Speaker 5: And how did someone like Judge Mershon come to hear
Speaker 5: this case? And I think he was drawn for every
Speaker 5: single Trump case in that Manhattan court, wasn't he.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 27: I know there's been an allegation of corruption in the
Speaker 27: assignment of Judge murshand this case. I don't know the
Speaker 27: facts behind that. You know, every court has got as
Speaker 27: system by which they assigned cases to a particular judge,
Speaker 27: and it's been alleged. I don't know whether it's correct
Speaker 27: or not that there was some corruption involved in assigning
Speaker 27: this case to Judge Mrchon, But be that as it made,
Speaker 27: there's no question about the fact that this guy is
Speaker 27: bitterly hostile to Donald Trump, and he conducted this trial
Speaker 27: in a way that had what objective only, and that
Speaker 27: was to secure a conviction.
Speaker 8: James, two things of I wanted to ask you. First
Speaker 8: of all, tell us explain to us how the instructions
Speaker 8: that were given to the jury basically old but you
Speaker 8: know guaranteed that he would be convicted. And I'd love
Speaker 8: it if you could just use your legal crystal bowl
Speaker 8: and say, what do you think the sentence is going
Speaker 8: to come down on July eleventh for Trump? Is he
Speaker 8: going to be sentenced to prison and locked up before
Speaker 8: the convention or will they do something to try and
Speaker 8: humiliate him, like, you know, make him do community service,
Speaker 8: put him out on our road crew cleaning up highways.
Speaker 8: What do you think think?
Speaker 27: Well, well, first of all, the instruction's mirror of the trial, right.
Speaker 27: The instructions reflected this incredibly biased and frankly lawless trial
Speaker 27: that Judge Merchant had conducted.
Speaker 8: In many ways.
Speaker 27: One that's been pointed out by a lot of observers
Speaker 27: is this the idea that you know, to be convicted
Speaker 27: of this minor bookkeeping error or misrepresentation, it had to
Speaker 27: be in pursuit of another crime. Well, they never wanted
Speaker 27: to say what's the other crime. And at the end
Speaker 27: of the day, Judge Burchand said, well, you know, you
Speaker 27: don't even have to agree on what the other crime is.
Speaker 27: If you think that Trump did something wrong, you know,
Speaker 27: go ahead and find him guilty. I mean, it was
Speaker 27: a ridiculous set of jury instructions. But at this point
Speaker 27: the real question is where do we go from here.
Speaker 27: I think that Judge Murchon, he's got a lot of discretion,
Speaker 27: first of all, sentencing. I think he's going to do
Speaker 27: what he thinks will most benefit the Democratic Party in
Speaker 27: the twenty twenty four election. That is the whole reason
Speaker 27: for this prosecution and for this trial. So I'll give
Speaker 27: you my crystal ball. I don't think he's going to
Speaker 27: sentence Donald Trump to jail to prison. I think what
Speaker 27: he's going to do is put him under house arrest. Heaven,
Speaker 27: wear an ankle bracelet make him stay. I assume at
Speaker 27: mar Lago, you know, down in Florida, And I think
Speaker 27: what they're trying to achieve there is to prevent Donald
Speaker 27: Trump from going out in campaigning, because he is a
Speaker 27: great campaigner, and Joe Biden is so far gone in sinility.
Speaker 3: He can't do it.
Speaker 27: He can't go out and campaign. So I think one
Speaker 27: of their objectives here is to neutralize Trump's ability to campaign.
Speaker 27: And I'm just guessing, speculating that they might do that
Speaker 27: by sentencing him to house arrest.
Speaker 2: And John what's the broader picture for the American justice system,
Speaker 2: Because seriously, people all around the world are looking at
Speaker 2: this and it's a kangaroo court. In my opinion, what
Speaker 2: does this say about the separation of power is basically
Speaker 2: the separation between the justice system and politics.
Speaker 27: Well, you know, Rowan, I think it's even deeper than that.
Speaker 27: I think America is really starting to come apart at
Speaker 27: the seams. I think we're separating into really two very
Speaker 27: different countries. And I think people around the United States,
Speaker 27: let alone around the world, look at this fiasco that
Speaker 27: they carried out in New York under color of law,
Speaker 27: and I think people ask themselves, look, under the Constitution,
Speaker 27: we have to give full faith and credit to the
Speaker 27: judgments handed down in other states. But what if those
Speaker 27: states are completely corrupt, what if they're motivated by politics
Speaker 27: not by the law.
Speaker 3: What are we going to do?
Speaker 27: I mean, I think we have crossed a line here
Speaker 27: that's never been crossed before in American history.
Speaker 2: John Heindereiker, depressing news. But I fear that you are
Speaker 2: one hundred percent correct. Thanks so much for coming on, Outsiders,
Speaker 2: and we'll speak again soon after the break. Canbrac Clown Show,
Speaker 2: Roll Up, Roll Up. It's the craziest, wackiest Freakis show
Speaker 2: on Earth. It's the Canra Clown Show. Remember everybody's favorite
Speaker 2: e Karen Clown. Our own E Safety Commissar Julie in
Speaker 2: Man Grant, the woman who banned a tweet by a
Speaker 2: breastfeeding advocate, Jasmine Sussex, in which Jasmine said that men
Speaker 2: cannot lactate. Yes, our E Safety Commissar also banned this
Speaker 2: tweet objecting to this clown being sent to the World
Speaker 2: Health Organization by the Australian taxpayer, and our E Safety
Speaker 2: Commissioner also tried but failed to stop the entire world
Speaker 2: from seeing the footage of the knife attack on Bishop
Speaker 2: mart Murray Emmanuel.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's all the handiwork.
Speaker 2: Of our fragrant e Safety Commissioner, Julie in Man Grant.
Speaker 28: We've settled a commentary presenting you personally as some kind
Speaker 28: of or William figure, issuing dictates and determining what people
Speaker 28: can and can say. Do look at Can you just
Speaker 28: step out for us exactly what your role is in
Speaker 28: relation to that.
Speaker 10: What Parliament effectively decided is that where online discourse veers
Speaker 10: into the lean of serious harm, that an independent regulator
Speaker 10: will be designated to investigate, assess in accordance with the thresholds,
Speaker 10: and take a range of remedial actions.
Speaker 2: The key question being, of course, who defines what harm means?
Speaker 2: Missus Julian Mangrant, it would appear and her team.
Speaker 18: The Asafety website lists refusing to use a trans person's
Speaker 18: preferred pronouns online or posting a video that dead names
Speaker 18: them as an example of gendered hate, and that deliberately
Speaker 18: misgendering someone online is a form of gendered violence. How
Speaker 18: do you justify these statements in a country where a
Speaker 18: male rape and child's sex offender can be placed in
Speaker 18: a women's prison and access women's facilities.
Speaker 10: I failed to see the connection to that specific incident, Senator,
Speaker 10: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Really, what a joke.
Speaker 2: Only someone thoroughly immersed in woke leftist gender propaganda could
Speaker 2: fail to see the connection between transgender women ie biological
Speaker 2: males being allowed into women's prisons and the E Safety
Speaker 2: Commissioner censoring calling transgender people by their biological sex or
Speaker 2: birth name.
Speaker 3: You would have to be either an.
Speaker 2: Idiot or an LGBT ideologue to be puzzled by that
Speaker 2: sensible question from Senator Claire Chandler.
Speaker 8: So which is it?
Speaker 3: By way of answering.
Speaker 2: That, let's ask another question, what was miss grant doing
Speaker 2: before she came to Australia to become our chief Online
Speaker 2: e Commissioner, sens or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: Well we know she worked, among other places, at Twitter
Speaker 2: in the Sydney office before Elon Musk took it over.
Speaker 3: And indeed, according to media reports.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, Quote E Safety Commissioner Julian Mangrant
Speaker 2: shared her concerns with Senator Sarah Hanson Young about Elon
Speaker 2: Musk's recent takeover as owner of the social media platform Twitter.
Speaker 2: The commissioner said Musks planned to take verification a paid
Speaker 2: feature would result in a dog's breakfast. So clearly not
Speaker 2: a fan of Elon Musk's Twitter. But what you may
Speaker 2: well ask, was Julie.
Speaker 3: In Mangrant's original goals.
Speaker 2: And plans for herself, her motivation as a youth, her
Speaker 2: dreams and aspirations, Well, it sounds like something out of
Speaker 2: a Jason Bourne movie. Julie wanted to join the CIA,
Speaker 2: America's notorious spying network.
Speaker 24: That you were offered a position as a case agent
Speaker 24: with the CIA, and your self described mission driven. That's true,
Speaker 24: you're offered a role with the CIA.
Speaker 10: I did a number of interviews out of university. One
Speaker 10: was with my hometown congressman on the Hill. Another was
Speaker 10: with the CIA. I took the role with the I
Speaker 10: was an international relations major. I was interested in public service,
Speaker 10: and I took the role with my congressman.
Speaker 3: Hmmmm, that was Julie.
Speaker 2: This week, it is another Senate Estimate's hearing, facing the
Speaker 2: forensic and brilliant Senator Alex And.
Speaker 10: There's actually a very long process, including polygraph tests. You
Speaker 10: have to be a very high moral character and standing. Yeah,
Speaker 10: you're asked about every bad thing you've done in your
Speaker 10: life and you have to take a polygraph test about it.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Director and standing polygraph tests.
Speaker 3: Yet, for whatever reason, miss.
Speaker 2: In Mangrant or miss In Marnas, she was then decided
Speaker 2: not to pursue her chosen career as an undercover spy
Speaker 2: working for the CIA. Fair enough, she became an ossie
Speaker 2: Internet person instead. Well, sounds a bit like a conspiracy
Speaker 2: theory bubbling away here, at least that's what Julie thinks.
Speaker 7: Is there a conspiracy theory coming?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 24: No, no, I'm just wondering whether you don't currently or
Speaker 24: you have never worked for the CIA.
Speaker 1: No, I have not, and you do you don't have.
Speaker 24: Any interaction with the intelligence services through your role.
Speaker 26: I do know.
Speaker 8: Once again, that's conspiracy theory.
Speaker 7: That's very hurtful.
Speaker 20: We have a contact with a number of Australian government
Speaker 20: agencies in a way that's appropriate to the role.
Speaker 3: Functions and powers of the Safety Commissioner, but you.
Speaker 24: Have no contractual relationship with any of them. Now hold
Speaker 24: you a citizenship.
Speaker 10: I hold Australian citizenship first, and yes I still hold
Speaker 10: my US passwort and I represent the Australian people.
Speaker 1: In this rule.
Speaker 24: As easy to be defensive about it. It's just that
Speaker 24: it's just a question.
Speaker 3: So justin me, crystal clear.
Speaker 2: Julie Inman Grant wanted to work for the CIA, America's
Speaker 2: highly secretive global spy network, went through a lengthy and
Speaker 2: laborious process to join the CIA, then abruptly decided not
Speaker 2: to join the CIA because, in her own words, joining
Speaker 2: the CIA would have meant quote, I wouldn't be able
Speaker 2: to tell my friends and.
Speaker 3: Family what I was doing.
Speaker 2: She then worked in Washington, then worked for Microsoft and
Speaker 2: moved to Australia, then became director of public Policy at
Speaker 2: Twitter in Australia and Southeast Asia. Pre Elon Musk before
Speaker 2: being appointed as Australia's E Safety Commissioner in twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: by none other than Malcolm Turnbull.
Speaker 1: Well, good morning.
Speaker 16: I'm here with Julie Mongrand, who is the E Safety Commissioner,
Speaker 16: and Julie is heading up our federal government's effort to
Speaker 16: make the Internet a safer place for everybody online, but
Speaker 16: of course especially children.
Speaker 3: Of course that all sounds very grand.
Speaker 2: But what banning women saying that men cannot lactate, or
Speaker 2: banning criticism of transgender man being appoint of the World
Speaker 2: Health Organization, or banning the viewing of the stabbing of
Speaker 2: the bishop has to do with making the Internet a
Speaker 2: safer place for children?
Speaker 3: Beats me?
Speaker 2: Mission creep perhaps to use a favorite Jason Bourne saying,
Speaker 2: But yes, our E Safety Commissioner, our government so called
Speaker 2: censor online, person who once wanted to join the CIA,
Speaker 2: was appointed by the one and only Malcolm bly Turnbull,
Speaker 2: the man who rose to fame back in the nineteen
Speaker 2: eighties by fighting against government imposed censorship of a naughty
Speaker 2: tell all book called SpyCatcher. You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 3: What I wonder would Carlie Simon have made of all
Speaker 3: of this?
Speaker 2: Sad secret said, well, Canada's gone full hyperbol full extreme exaggeration.
Speaker 2: Have a listen to this MP in the Canadian Parliament
Speaker 2: on climate change.
Speaker 29: Good news, kids, you can take a summer fun time
Speaker 29: vacation where you're locked in a car for ten consecutive days, NonStop,
Speaker 29: with no bathroom breaks. And the Conservatives have a plan
Speaker 29: for you to have that summertime fund and the cost
Speaker 29: give up the future of.
Speaker 1: The planet, right.
Speaker 29: Don't worry Kurds about climate change.
Speaker 8: Don't worry about taking action on the planet. Enjoy We are.
Speaker 29: Ten hours in the car and what the planet burn?
Speaker 8: What insane James are you're just saying that, Well, you
Speaker 8: cannot have a road trip anymore because of the no
Speaker 8: sorry go on, men who wear.
Speaker 6: Bow ties when it's not a black tie event. Red flags,
Speaker 6: red flags straightaway.
Speaker 2: Well, let's also look at Pierre Poliev, who we love
Speaker 2: in the Canadian Palment.
Speaker 3: Hopefully he'll be the next Prime minister.
Speaker 2: Here he is responding to Justin Trudeau's ridiculous comments in parliament.
Speaker 9: Have listened.
Speaker 3: We're leveraging transit funding to build more homes. We're launching
Speaker 3: a housing design catalog. He's announcing a catalog.
Speaker 1: At a home.
Speaker 10: You might end up in.
Speaker 2: A tent, your rent is double, but hey you've got
Speaker 2: a brand new catalog.
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 8: There's a great lesson here for conservatives in Australia everywhere.
Speaker 8: Have fun exactly, fuse use humor the left hand mockery.
Speaker 5: Mockery is such a powerful weapon, particularly against the left
Speaker 5: or so self righteous and humorless. You mock them and
Speaker 5: their craziness. It drives them insight and you get the
Speaker 5: point across.
Speaker 8: We get the point of joke. Every joke is a
Speaker 8: tiny revolution or well said it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, humor is such a great weapon. Libs Coalition, use it,
Speaker 2: one nation, do brilliantly, go for it.
Speaker 3: Use humor.
Speaker 2: Got to bring these humorless leftists out and replace them with.
Speaker 3: A government that actually can be efficient. Just saying that's it.
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week at nine am or here
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