WEBVTT - Outsiders | 2 June 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:09.640 Opinion on Sky News Australia starts now. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:21.000 Love, this is outside, good morning and welcome to outsiders. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.360 To show that is to woke virtue signaling and climate 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.800 hysteria on steroids. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:31.880 What Canadian NP Laurel Collins is to putting scientific reason 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.040 and rational thought above emotion. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.840 I hope you'll forgive me if I get emotional. Climate 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:47.120 emergencies are not gender neutral. The degradation of ecosystems disproportionately 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:53.440 impacts women and girls, and I am wildly emotional. This 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.760 is the existential crisis of our time. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.760 Oh my goodness, climate change is just going to kill 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.040 us all. It's also sexist and misogynist. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:05.080 I knew it. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:12.240 To hear that asking for high ambition is climate hysteria. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.760 That makes me wildly emotional. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:15.720 Absolutely. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.960 You know, when I think about my womb, you know, 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.280 the two children that I bore from that womb, and 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.080 what future we are leaving them, I am wildly emotional. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:33.080 God Sally. So then one of the most rational, logical, 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.560 and pragmatic steps we should take here. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.440 I think that we need to think about the intersection 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:46.080 of gender and the climate crisis. And I hope that 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.080 the people around this table and the people listening will 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:53.880 refrain from using language like climate hysteria. We are facing 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:55.200 a climate emergency. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.000 Wow, well, Laurel Ware is about the impact of climate 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.760 hysteria on her womb. Let's take a pregnant pause, then 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:11.440 get stuck straight in for the latest Outsiders news. Well, 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.680 that loud sound you heard was the crashing of one 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.919 of the key fundamental pillars of Western civilization, that the 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.640 idea that the law should be above politics and politics 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.919 must not corrupt the legal system has been completely trashed 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:32.400 in the United States in the most disgraceful and disgusting 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.920 conviction ever recorded in US history, and that is the 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:41.240 completely unwarranted conviction of Donald Trump. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.400 In my opinion, James. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.400 I thought you were going to say the Rosenberg's Roland, 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:52.000 but anyway, No, this is absolutely uncharted territory we are 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:56.359 in right now, this case here and these thirty four counts. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.760 Everybody needs to understand what is happening here. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.000 Letase explain it, James, because some of the commentary and 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:09.280 news reporting we have had in this country has been nothing. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.760 Allow me Rita to walk us through. So essentially what 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.760 this all goes back to is twenty sixteen and twenty 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:21.320 fifteen and Donald Trump had basically paid off through his 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.840 lawyers an NBA a non disclosures agreement to silence story 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.919 of Daniels, who he says he didn't have sex with. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.760 She said they did. Who cares? That doesn't matter. Now, 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.560 the point is this non disclosure agreement. This is the 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.200 sort of thing politicians do all the time. Bill Clinton 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.480 did it with Paula Jones. This has happened time and 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.080 time again. So what happened, Well, this was a bookkeeping error, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.120 and there's a two year statute of limitations. But what 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.280 happened was this it's a misdemeanor, it's not a felony. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.560 And I'm going to talk about this more later in 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:55.080 the show. But what happened was Alvin Bragg, the district 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.920 attorney who ran for office because you run for the 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.760 office there on a platform, was saying, I've sued Trump before, 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.280 I want to get Trump. I'm going to get Trump. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.440 That's why you should vote for me. He created this 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.880 whole novel legal theory. No one's ever had this happen before, 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.960 where he connected this misdemeanor bookkeeping thing, which is very 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.680 similar to what happens all the time to election law 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.520 and said, oh, well, this was an attempt to defraud 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.640 the electorate, to tell, you know, to hide the truth 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:27.719 from them and thus interfere with our democracy. Now, of 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.080 course this was all nonsense. It was complete nonsense. Yet 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.360 the jury was given instructions by a judge who had 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.839 given money to the Democrats, whose daughter is on the 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:41.960 payroll of the Democrats, to give them the jury instructions 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.440 that basically said, there's no way you have to find 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.800 him guilty. There are so many ways that this is 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.120 going to appeal and be appealed, and Trump will probably win. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.760 But the problem is this isn't going to happen until 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.719 after the election. In the meantime, sentencing is set for 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.720 July eleventh. July eleventh, just four days before he is 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:04.680 con as Republican National Committee's nominee for the President of 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.920 the United States, and jams and sorry, rowan one more thing. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:12.120 He could wind up being sent to jail by this 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:16.160 blatantly political judge. This is where we are. This is 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.040 a disgrace. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.560 Well, it's also a disgrace for the simple reason that 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.679 the judge, rather than having a unanimous verdict, the crime 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:28.960 was never spelled out. This is communist style, Soviet style 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.480 show trials where the crime is never spelt out. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.720 The four judges, so. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:39.240 The juries had three different crimes that they could have 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.680 convicted him on, and they didn't have to specify what 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.880 they were. And the judge himself says, you don't need 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.839 to be unanimous, just as long as four of you 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.680 agree on the three different things. An absolute travesty of 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.799 justice unlike anything we have seen before, and absolute disgrace. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.320 And he will go to jail for the simple reason 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.880 that this is a show trial, Soviet show trial, and 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.520 they want him behind bars because that's what they want 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.719 for their campaign posters to try and get Joe Biden, 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.039 the worst president in US history, into the White House. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.400 My prediction is Americans are not stupid. My prediction is 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.880 Americans will say this was a Soviet era show trial 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.200 and we want Donald Trump in the rocketing and they 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.760 will put him there. And woe betide all of you 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.120 who are cheering at this, because you are cheering at 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.880 the downfall of Western civilization. You cannot have a legal 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.560 system that is at the behest of corrupt politicians, and 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.760 that's what we've seen here in the United States. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.720 Rita Rowan, I would argue this is worst of the 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.240 Communists show trial because as the communist said, you know, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.520 show me the man and I'll show you the crime. 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:48.920 Here, they haven't actually help. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:58.680 A local New York court prosecute and convict federal election laws. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.440 I mean, the whole thing is so absurd, and it 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.760 is going like all the legal opinion was given the 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.120 way this has been framed, there's going to be a 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.800 conviction here, even if the ones who were in court 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.160 are saying that were I could not believe what they 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.560 were saying. The proceedings were extraordinary on a number of levels. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.120 But again, all the legal opinion is that this will 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:23.680 be overturned on appeal, but as James mentioned, that's not 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.480 going to be until after the November poll. So the 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.360 whole point of this is to go to the election 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.160 and have Trump called a convicted felony. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.280 But this is the thing the Democrats and the left 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:36.000 don't understand. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:37.200 They've seen that. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:43.600 Made words like racist, bigot, sexist. 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:45.360 They've stripped these. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.880 Words of all meaning but over using and misusing them, 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:55.120 and they're about to do that with convicted felons. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:59.400 Quickly, think about that photo of Donald Trump mugshot, the 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.480 mugshot that made him a superstar. This is going to 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.560 make him even more of a superstar, James, because there 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.960 are people throughout America, particularly in minority communities, who know 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.640 an unfair justice system when they see it, and they 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:15.560 are going, WHOA. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:16.600 Trump is one of us. 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:22.200 Now he's suffering from a corrupt, politicized justice system, legal 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:27.280 system in which there is no justice. Lady Justice, She's 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.000 torn off that blindfold. She's no longer blind. She is 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.520 now entirely at the behest of the Democrats. Woe betied America. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.959 I do not trust how rotten is the American justice system? 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.439 How far will this go? I hate to. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.880 Think, Well, you know, Rita, I've got to take issue 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.439 with one thing you said. You said there's no crime. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.920 We don't know what the crime was that Trump was 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.720 convicted of. We're charged with The crime was very simple. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.160 He was, But he was big Donald J. Trump? 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:53.360 Ye? 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:54.000 He was? 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.400 Did Hillary Clinton? Twenty sixteen? This is all about. This 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.720 is about dealergitimizing the election of twenty sixteen, which the 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.960 left never accepted. River. That's the thing that we have 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.640 to talk about here. This all goes back to twenty sixteen. 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.720 Trump won and they said this is not legitimate. They 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:19.600 denied the election. This case, this process here Rita and Rowan, 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:24.400 is an act of election denial by the left for them, 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.920 they need this for psychological closure to bookend that trauma. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.880 This case would never have been brought against Trump though, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.000 had he not been running for president. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.400 So the reason why I don't think it's got anything 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.920 to do with delegitimizing twenty sixteen. This is all about 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:45.120 election interference. In twenty twenty four, they cheated, in my opinion, 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:49.439 in twenty twenty Clearly, in my opinion, the Democrats cheated, 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.480 whether that got Biden into the White House or not, 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.640 that there was certainly clear evidence of election interference at 0:09:55.720 --> 0:10:01.120 all sorts of levels, including Zackerberg's fortifying the election. This 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.680 is election interference. It is done because they believe that 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.720 if enough Americans see Donald Trump as a convicted furlom, 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:09.760 they won't. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:10.200 Vote for him. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.720 This is election interference, of games, boldly in front of us. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.360 And if they're sure to go this far, take it 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.960 from me. That's how far they went last time. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:23.040 Well, look at what they did to Trump. They spied 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:29.640 illegally on his campaign. They then used the Clinton campaign paid. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.280 A law firm another exactly to come. 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.880 Up with a scale of lives, exactly to. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.520 Get feeser warrants to spy some more. 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.680 Now that all sorts of crimes you can see there 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.160 that are quite clear, and their. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.240 Federal Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. You know, 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.080 in a couple of years ago, I think it was 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:52.720 the Hillary campaign organization from twenty sixteen paid a fine 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.760 for doing what using their lawyer to people the Steel 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.600 Steel year. This is exactly the same thing that Trump 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.400 is accused. But the Steel doss was a real attempt 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.760 to interfere not only with the election, but also to 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.360 interfere with all sorts of things, including you know, the 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:13.520 role of intelligence agencies, because they got foreign intelligence agencies 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.680 to spy on American citizens. That's how sinister this is. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.000 There were American citizens who are as part of the 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.439 tree and all they paid was fine. But this all 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.559 comes down to here's why I think the American people 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.000 are going to reject this. They're going to see through 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:32.840 this because at the heart of this is a logical inconsistency. Right, Okay, 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.120 let's put aside Trump, Let's put aside the charges. Here's 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.880 the thing they keep saying that Donald Trump is this 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.360 existential threat. They say, if Donald Trump wins, it's the 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.559 end of American democracy, it's the end of the constitution, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:45.719 it's the end of this, it's the end of that. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.800 We'll have World War three. You know, it's like the 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:49.520 old joke. You know, they said, if I voted for 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.160 Trump in twenty twenty, we'd have World War three in 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.920 the Middle East. And here we are. But the thing 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.400 is that if Trump is such a threat, well then 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.400 why are they running a guy who is falling apart, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:05.040 a guy who was Demented's. 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.800 Let's just have a look at Let's just have a 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.600 look at the demented character. If you want to see, 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:12.880 in my opinion, the face of something pretty sinister. James 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.880 was talking about sinister. Have a look at this. This 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:21.439 is Joe Biden being questioned about that verdict on Trump. 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:22.000 Have a look. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.160 Donald Trump prefers himself as a political prisoner and blames 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:26.760 you directly. 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.200 What's your response to that, sir? 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.640 Look that isn't creepy? If that doesn't make your flesh crawl, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.200 I tell you what. Jack Nicholson couldn't have put on 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.360 a more sinister performance. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:41.959 If they paid him to do it. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.640 But let's also have a listen to Joe Biden telling 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:49.120 us it's reckless to say that this court case was rigged. Well, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.640 Joe Biden, it was rigged. So tell me why it 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:57.760 was reckless again, Joe to say, ass it's dangerous, it's 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:03.600 irresponsible for anyone who says, I'll tell you what's reckless 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.720 and irresponsible is to rig it, which is what you did, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:07.439 Joe Biden. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.760 And there's plenty of evidence there to. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.320 Suggest that the four court cases against Donald Trump will 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.480 all have connections back to the Biden administration. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.040 They do have connections back, but you almost don't even 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.280 need to draw those lines back to the White House 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.880 because the election that is, if you're is if you're 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.000 somebody like Alvin Bragg, and Alvin Bragg, you know, hard 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.120 left prosecutor. You know this is the thing. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:29.760 I'm honest. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.200 I go to New York all the time, right, and 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.560 you know New York they let Alvin Bragg lets out 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.079 criminals on the street every single day. They declared the 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.760 place of sanctuary city. So it's full of illegal migrants. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.439 The trades. You cannot ride the trades because they're unsafe. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.880 And now you know, and yet this one guy who 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.960 was accused of doing you know, a bookkeeping error essentially 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.760 back in twenty seventeen or whatever it was. Here, this 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.120 is a guy. This is a guy that they're devoting 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.040 all of their resources. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:02.199 On what they created laws to try to get him 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.240 in the civil cases with the Genie Carroll one. So 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:10.640 this isn't just isolated. All of these efforts are connected. 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.520 It's an effort to stop. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.320 Him winning the election this year. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.199 He's leading in the polls and I'll be talking about 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:22.960 that later. He's leading the polls has increased dramatically during 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:23.640 this trial. 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.120 So if they think. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:29.040 This sort of lawfare, this corruption of the justice system 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.920 is going to work, it may work with a certain 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.240 percentage of people who are low information, of voters who 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:39.240 don't really read beyond the headlines, but beyond that, I 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.360 think this is backfiring on them enormously. 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.080 Now let me give you a stat on this here, 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.120 and we're talking all through this in the ten o'clock hour, 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:52.080 but fifty three million dollars that's how much the Trump 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.160 campaign raised in the twenty four hours after the verdict. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:15:00.040 There are now, I am told, very big tech guys, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.840 hedge fund guys, Wall Street guys who are now saying, 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.440 you know what this is, This is ridiculous. We're going 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.120 to open the floodgates of money to this campaign. You know, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:13.600 it's reorienting the whole political process. Here, the Biden campaign 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.600 in the previous month April, their filing is only fifty 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.960 one million. He raised more in twenty four hours than 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.760 the Biden campaign and the Democrats raised in a month. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.440 This is how furious. And more than a third of 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.640 the donations came from first time doughar. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.760 Wow, and well, I predict you're going to see Donald 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.920 Trump behind bars because that's what this is all about, 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:34.680 the optics of that. 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:35.760 There is behind. 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.880 Bars option, and that'll be another T shirt, and that'll 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.520 be more polls, more donations coming in. But we're going 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.640 to move on and talk about more Trump later in 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.520 the show. But let me just say categorically, the only 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.720 thing now that can save the American justice system from 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:55.320 complete political Soviet era style corruption is the election of 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:59.280 Donald Trump on November fifth. The American people will save 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.360 their own justice the system, you mark my words now 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:08.440 speaking of justice systems closer to home. Ah, we just 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:12.360 saw James Patterson chatting earlier to Andrew Clenell about this 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:17.200 direction ninety nine. This is this Immigration minister Andrew Giles 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.720 who got these detainees who have been let out at 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.680 the behest it appears between Albanesi making up some idea 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:25.920 with justinto. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:30.600 Our dern those two, those two all about it go wrong. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.960 Well, we'll remember the Jacinta Arden was very upset about 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:40.000 Australia deporting criminals New Zealand citizens back to New Zealand. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.360 She argued that they spent most of their time in 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.600 Australia and they should have been kept in Australia. Well, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.920 she made that argument with Peter Dutton Scott Morrison, and 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.000 Peter Dutton was Home Affairs Minister, and they ignored her, 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.000 as you should. But as soon as Albanese came into power, 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.760 he was very happy to appease during give her what 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:05.159 she wants. And it seems his involvement in instigating this 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.679 disastrous direction that has now seen sex offenders, just the 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:14.639 most vile criminals, rapists, pedophiles be allowed to stay dodge 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:22.240 deportation because this direction, ministerial direction, really doesn't give the 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.280 att much choice. Yeah, so now they're going to be 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:29.160 rejigging it again. 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.480 Jane well this is you know, there's a few things 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.199 to say about this, because of course, remember you've been 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.239 bringing a point reader that this all comes back to 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.119 New Zealand and that trip that you send to our 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.840 durn took over here. We talked about this and I 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:41.640 wrote about this at the time that this was going 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.080 to wind up with a couple of consequences. Number one, 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.040 more criminals staying here for longer. Number two. The other 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.440 thing that Anthony Albanez wanted to do with the set 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.240 of regulations that he passed at that time was to 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.000 make it easier for resident kiwis here to quickly take 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.840 citizenship because he wanted to get them as voters, you know, 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.760 say oh well, thank you, be easy for the citizenship 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.480 and now we're going to sign up for labor. That's 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:04.960 the other thing. But the third thing that needs to 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.000 be said here is that it is absolutely political and 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:12.080 irresponsible for him to be attacking the Administrative Appeals Tribe UNEL, 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.639 which is the body that handles these things. They have 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.119 created a situation where they want to get rid of 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:22.240 the AAT and create a new body, the Administrative Review 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:26.679 Tribe UNAL, which will be guaranteed to be stacked with 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.000 labor types by Mark Dreyfuss and everybody else and all 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:31.879 of their labormates are going to go on to this, 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:36.399 which will result in more bad outcomes, not less, not fewer. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.760 Because the thing is that the aaa T was trying 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:41.440 to do a good job here, but they keep getting 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.480 hobbled by this government that wants them to create a 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.160 huge problem for them and then say, oh, well look 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.160 at aaat's problem. What's this is directive that says that 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.760 they have to take into account and I've read many 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.520 of these judgments and that they will say in the decision. 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.720 You know this they committed this hatescribe that heads tried, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.280 but now I have to I have to take into 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.399 account this connection. And unfortunately here we are. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.400 So bungles labor policy as usual. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:12.959 The Immigration minister how he can still be in his 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.560 job is beyond me. But with labor, you know, the 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.720 buck always stops over there somewhere else. 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.000 Everyone else passes the buck further down the line. 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:24.080 They never have accountability within the labor party. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:25.400 They just sit there quite happily. 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:31.240 Have listened to Immigration Minister Giles coming up with some 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:36.760 bizarre idea about drones monitoring this detainees have a Listen. 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.400 There is a quarter of a billion dollars that we've 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.600 invested in supporting our law enforcement agencies to enforce that, 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.160 and that's enabled things like using drones to keep track 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:47.840 of those people. 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:48.800 We know where they are. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.480 We just have them all with electronic monitor because the 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:56.159 law doesn't allow it. Well, maybe they're Maybe Giles is 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.320 sitting there with his own drones tracing people because none 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.679 of our authority he had said, no we've got that all, 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.119 said the police, and no we're not. 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:08.880 What is going on there? 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.080 Who is advising that man? 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.160 I mean, his department either hates him or they're as 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.640 inept as he is, because obviously he's been given this 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.840 advice that has no basis in fact, because the AFP. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.240 Have come out and said, well. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:28.560 No, remember we're not using drones in that way, but 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:30.119 it's an idea. 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.639 Maybe we should more want tom foolery from labor. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.119 This is not a government that takes borders seriously. And 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.240 I'm sorry all of this Harry Chest and chest beating 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.159 about you know, oh we're being tough on it. And 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.080 it was Peter Duttet who made all the mistakes. You know. 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.120 Number one, stop blaming the previous government. You're in power, 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.040 he's been power for two years now, takes some responsibility. 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.719 But number two again, they don't really in their DNA 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:55.880 believe in borders. They don't believe Andrew Giles. Andrew Giles too. 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.560 You know, he loves being a minister. He loves going 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:00.680 off to London campaign for the boy. She loves doing 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:02.720 all these sort of things. But doing things like you 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.480 taking a briefing from the cover well solicitor about how 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:08.840 this High Court case is going to go against them, 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.640 that they need to get some laws written on the quick, 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.800 smart to do something about to have ready to pass 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:16.280 the Parliament. Yeah, that's just boring stuff. 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.000 Yeah, now let's quickly look at Sydney University. What a disgrace. 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.520 Have a listened to this professor? This is what your 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.040 kids if you've sent your kids to Sydney University. This 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.280 is the sort of garbage they are being to have listened. 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:34.199 We can see how the Western media has suppressed coverage 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.320 of the atrocities. They've used this kind of fake news 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.560 about hermass beheading, babies and mass rates, all in order 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.760 to shore up support for Israel, and they have distorted 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:45.760 events so let's. 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:46.359 Be really clear. 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.840 The Left love to talk about power imbalances. 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.960 Here you have a teacher teaching vulnerable students who have 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.320 gone there, gone to a university thinking they're going to 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.840 broaden their mind, get more knowledge, and they have this 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:02.679 sort of mad crazy alogists for her mass spewing basic 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:04.159 bile into their heads. 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.560 Get your kids out of that university and don't fund 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:08.560 that university. 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.359 Seriously, Rita, it. 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:15.840 Is appalling to to study so hard to get into 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:20.160 an elite university, and Sydney University is a prestigious university, 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:25.600 and then to have your academic results determined by someone 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.280 with that kind of a mindset. So you can imagine 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:32.160 what sort of absolute nonsense you would have to regurgitate 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.000 in your work to get a decent mark from someone 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:35.320 like that. 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:43.120 So twelve hundred people, many women, children, great disgusting, and 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:47.360 this teacher is sitting there, well, it makes me sick. 0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.919 Serious, and it would be exactly the same types of 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:55.600 people who would be marching for women, marching for against 0:22:55.720 --> 0:23:00.480 violence against women. And yet when it comes to the 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:06.280 systematic rape and slaughter that was so on October seven, 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:09.760 there is just so much documentation about what happened and 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.040 how rape was used as a weapon. 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:12.840 Of women's. 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:15.560 Prison, denying it. 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:17.920 They're saying it's some sort of a media creation. 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:18.440 You know. 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.760 Sorry, guys. The thing is, you know, let's we can't 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.760 just talk about this one particular professor, you know, Fish 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.440 Fish Ross for the head, remember, you know, and I mean, yes, 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:29.280 you've had a great point. You know, Queers of Palestine. 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:30.919 It's like feminist for Hamas were seeing all of this 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.440 stuff right now. But you know, the head of the 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.840 University of Mark's God at ABC, you know, he has 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.280 allowed that encampment to stay in the quad. He gave 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.520 an interview to twgb's been Ford of the other day 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.359 where he said worse the effect of, well, look, I'm 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.240 sorry if people are upset by you know, what they're 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.879 seeing in these encampments. But it's a big campus and 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:51.800 you can walk around. There are other roots you can 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.800 take so you don't have to deal with them. I mean, 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:55.280 this is just ridiculous. 0:23:56.160 --> 0:24:01.360 If you had some anti immigration encampment at Sydney University 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:05.400 or Melbourne or Monash, any of the campus, it would 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:10.119 last precisely thirty seconds. They would bring in not just 0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:14.040 the cops, campus security, they would make sure it is 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.800 cleared out, they would be condemning it. They would be 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:21.600 having all sorts of bloody programs to provide counseling to 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:25.800 those who were impacted by it, but which is openly 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:31.080 hostile to Jewish students, which is in many ways anti Semitic, 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.920 and students aren't feeling safe on campus. Some are deferring 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:39.280 their studies, some are pulling out of their courses entirely. No, 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.640 the university leadership is quite comfortable with it as apparently 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:43.600 free speech suddenly. 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:44.240 Absolutely. 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:45.760 Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:49.399 lots more Trump to talk about, lots more also on Israel, 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.159 and we've got some special guests coming up. 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:59.399 In a tip, you're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan Dean, 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:03.800 Jane Morrow, and I'm Rita Panney from such programs as 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.119 the Rita Panne You Show Monday to Thursdays at eleven 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.320 and left He's losing it Friday nights at nine point thirty. 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:13.280 And my word, we had a lefty loser in spectacular 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.879 fashion outside of Manhattan court room this week, just a 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.520 couple of days before the verdict in the Third World 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:23.159 style Banana Republic Trump Show Trial. Yes, there is our 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:27.040 broken old lefty wearing a mask outdoors. Naturally, it's none 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.919 other than Robert de Niro, who decided to prove to 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:32.960 the world that he is suffering from an acute case 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.720 of Trump derangement syndrome. 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:39.200 I don't mean to scare you. 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.199 No, no, wait, maybe I do mean to scare you. 0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.639 If Trump returns to the White House, you can kiss 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:49.199 these freedoms goodbye that we all take for granted, and 0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:50.880 elections forget about it. 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:52.560 That's over, that's done. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.720 If he gets in, I can tell you right now, 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:57.760 he will never leave. 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:05.280 He will never leave. You know that he will never leave. 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:08.160 There you go. 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.600 If Trump wins later this year, it will be the 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.120 end of democracy, the end of elections. 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.560 Trump will be a dictator, you know. 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.080 The type of tyrant that persecutes his political opponents on 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.560 trumped up charges and tries to bankrupt them and put 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:23.240 them in prison. 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:25.680 Oh wait, that's the current guy. 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.080 Donald Trump prefers himself as a political prisoner and blames 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:30.680 you directly. 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.120 What's your response to that, sir. 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.440 But back to de Niro, proving yet again that actors 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:44.400 should stick to reading scripts written by other people lest 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.840 they look like demented nincom poops and watch out. De 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:52.000 Nero handles the crowd heckling him when he calls a 0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.720 couple of clout chasing January six cops. 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.600 Heroes are the. 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:03.320 True hero They stood and put their lives on the line. 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:05.680 Putts but true. 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:11.360 They lied on the road. 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:14.040 One to tell. 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:19.520 You, don't excuse me, don't pray mind. They lie under wrong. 0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.879 What are you saying? They're traders? 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.560 What do you say? What do you mean? 0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:28.960 They lie under wright? 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.640 All forget about it, and the crowd interaction for Old 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.480 Bob only got worse. 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:39.280 A paid sell out for the d n C, A 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.280 paid sell out to the d n C. 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:49.120 Robert Dell You you you. 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.720 Know, the great Alfred Hitchcock said this about actors. I 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.040 never said all actors are cattle. What I said was 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.760 all actors should be treated like cattle. 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:00.560 And I think we can all agree. Worry with that. 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:07.600 After hearing DeNiro's paranoid Trump fantasies, the obsession, the derangement 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:09.840 is weapon grade. 0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.439 Nothing at all, nothing redeemable in him. It can't be, 0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.919 It cannot be. If he is he wins the election, 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:21.960 you won't be on the show anymore. 0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:23.200 He'll come looking for me. 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:29.040 He'll well be, They'll be things that happen that none 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:33.200 of us can imagine. That's what happens in that kind 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:34.240 of a dictatorship. 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.440 Not a good sign when even the lefty audience is 0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:42.560 laughing at your paranoid fever dreams of Trump coming to 0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.400 get you. And this whole lawfare strategy of weaponizing the 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.240 justice system to attack Trump and keep him from winning 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:53.040 the twenty twenty four presidential election is backfiring for the 0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:56.160 Democrats the more they press ahead with this corruption of 0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.600 the justice system, in this case with a partisan judge 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.960 who don't to the Democrats, and his daughter helped Democrats 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:06.920 raise more than ninety million dollars using this case in 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.720 their solicitation emails, and that's not even in the top 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.360 ten most improper aspects of this commie. 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:14.280 Style show trial. 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:19.880 No doubt that most Americans are seeing through this, and 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:25.000 in fact, Trump's poll numbers are going higher and higher 0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:29.880 as these cases progress, including in those crucial swing states, 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.400 and in a poll taken in the hours after the conviction, 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.000 Trump improved his position with only twenty percent saying they 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.960 were less likely to vote for a convicted Felon twenty 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:43.480 six percent said they were more likely, and fifty four 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.720 percent said it would make no difference to their vote. 0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:51.000 And in another poll, it revealed that the guilty verdict 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:55.560 only improved the former president's standing with likely voters ahead 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.440 of the twenty twenty four election. 0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.800 Can you imagine what the numbers were will do if 0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:02.880 Judge Murchang. 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.640 Puts President Trump in jail four days before the GOP 0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.880 convection where Trump is due to be officially named as 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:14.640 the Republican presidential nominee. The sad reality is that though 0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.360 this sham conviction will be overturned on appill, that is 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.880 not going to happen before the twenty twenty four presidential election. 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.240 And that was the whole point to keep Trump from campaigning, 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.720 to time up in court to have him declared a 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:32.120 convicted felon in the hopes of preventing him from winning 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:33.040 come in November. 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.280 It's election interference. 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.680 It's funny how those who scream the loudest about the 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:43.640 threats to democracy are often themselves threats to democracy. 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.720 Fantastic Thanksrita Well joining us now with the latest on 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:58.800 Dutch and European politics at Webster University. Assistant Professor Ralph Sheilhammer, Ralph. 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:02.160 Great to see you as always. Now explain to us 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.320 what is going on in Holland. So we had the 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.640 farmer's strikes which led to a change of governments. We 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:14.680 had Wilders builders in there, and is that still the 0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.040 case that seems to be up in the air. Tell 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:20.000 us exactly the latest from Holland where you are with 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:20.680 your government. 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.560 Well, the latest is that they have now formed a government. 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:26.520 So the good news are that they have a very 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.240 ambitious program. I think also as people in Australia would 0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.040 be here, we're very happy with It includes all the 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.840 points from migration, to nuclear energy to protection of the farmers. 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.560 But I think there is kind of a little bit 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.920 of a poison pill in disagreement, which of course is 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.280 that he had Wilders himself is not going to be 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.680 the prime minister, which is kind of ironic because we 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.440 talked about there's a couple of months ago on your show, 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.080 right and they said they will try everything they can 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.480 to prevent him from becoming prime minister. And this is 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.160 exactly what happened, and it shows you once again what 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.320 the right can learn from the left. The right is 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.560 very often about politics, about institutions. The left is about power, 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.000 and this is something we need to realize. We see 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.520 with Donald trumpna. Whenever the left says it's about the 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:14.320 integrity of the institutions or you know, the honor of 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.760 traditions or whatever it is, it's all employed. It is 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.080 always about naked power. And I think on the right 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.360 we still do not understand this, and very often then 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.000 we become afraid of our own convictions. So I think 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.360 in the Netherlands, what will us should have done? He 0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.440 should have said, here's my program, this is the platform 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.480 on which I was elected, and I want to be 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.440 prime minister. If you deny me the post of prime minister, 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.720 we have to go to the polls again, and then 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:38.600 it's not going to be thirty percent for me. It's 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.480 going to be forty percent. And if you still deny 0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.000 it to me, it's going to be fifty percent at 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:42.600 the next election. 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:44.080 Fascinating. 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:48.080 James, Ralph tell me about this wave of elections that's 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.920 still coming and moving through Europe, and there's a huge 0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.080 amount of fear on the part of the establishment. And 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.120 I think we probably agree that a lot of this 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.160 establishment are kind of, you know, just reconstructing communists from 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.960 the cold war who are now trying to shut down 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.640 these elections and you know, basically say well, if you 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:09.400 are on the right, you are essentially potentially part of 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.360 a criminal organization and banning their speech, banning their events, 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.840 banning their membership. Tell us about this sort of move 0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:20.560 to use the law to shut down conservative and as 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.080 they call them, populous parties. 0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.960 Well, I read the Guardian yesterday and if you read it, 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.120 so there is no longer I write in Europe thatze 0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:33.480 only the far rights, the extreme rights, that extreme right, 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.760 and you can be somewhere around them. But you're absolutely right. 0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.520 I mean, this is preparing the ground to take legal action, 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.760 because it's the first step, because I mean, who is 0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.880 profile right right? Who who wants to be a quasi 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.080 crypto fascist. We see it in Germany where they try 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.240 to sabotage funding of right wing parties. We see it 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.320 in Austria where they try to exclude, for example, the 0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.880 Freedom Party from debates. So you see it all over 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.200 the bate, all over. The is absolutely right. I mean, 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.240 we are entering, and I think this cannot be stressed enough. 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.120 We are entering in Europe, but I think also now 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:11.239 in the United States, really pre revolutionary territory because you 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.800 guys mentioned it before. There is a massive disconnect between 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.759 the cartel that is formed between the media, academia and 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:23.360 establishment politicians and the people that really want to change, 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.640 and the idea to constantly smear everybody who wants to 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:30.279 do something different as far right extreme writer, what does 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:37.360 Joe Biden always say, ultra extreme, maga or whatever. People 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.719 are not that stupid. And by the way, the three 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.439 of you and I, we can really make this case 0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.359 because we had this conversation over a year ago where 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.640 we exactly said that this is going to happen, like 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.279 they going to jump into hyper gear of smearing their 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.959 political opponents more and more and more and more. Problematically 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.600 is that the media goes along with it. But luckily enough, 0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.040 and this is what they underestimate. There is now an 0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:03.760 alternative media sphere right people can inform themselves. Recently, in Germany, 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.000 you had this case a couple of days ago were 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.400 a refugee from Afghanistan were stabbing a group of people 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.879 and one police officer. Just a couple of hours ago, 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.680 Sadley succumbed to his injuries and died. You probably would 0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.840 not have seen these scenes a couple of weeks and 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:20.759 a couple of months ago, precisely the video that is 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.759 just going on and people just saying what is going 0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:25.160 on here? And then you have to meet it. It's 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:30.080 as stabbing at far right event, far right Islam critic 0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.319 was stabbed by Islamists. He would say, well, maybe the 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.759 far right Islam critic got something right and this is 0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.560 this is the issue here is. We saw the same 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.400 with the attack on Robert Fitzu, the Prime Minister of Sloakia, 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:47.400 where you had headlines saying that was even more difficult, 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.600 but because he's economically left but politically on the right. 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:54.560 But you had also these headlines that says populist politician 0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.600 was assassination attempt and kend of this is all he 0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.040 basically had it coming short was too skirt is skirt 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:02.960 was too short? 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.440 Siguratively speaking, Rita. 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:11.759 Well, you are absolutely right, this Islamist terrorist in Germany. 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.439 The headlines are all about the far right rally where 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:19.400 he came and he stabbed a supposed far right anti 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:23.720 Islam protester. I want to ask you out of Europe, 0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:29.920 what's happening in South America, particularly Argentina with Java Mila 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:35.200 are we seeing a resurgence of the center right are 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:38.400 we We're seeing that in certainly in Europe. 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.640 But is it happening, is it evident elsewhere? 0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.480 Well, that's a tricky thing because of course we should 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.680 not ourselves kind of fall into the trap to describe 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.359 everything that's opposing let's say the mainstream necessarily as being 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.880 to the right. I think just correctly mentioned Argentina is 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.640 currently running let's call it a libertarian writing experiment. But 0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.600 for example, in continent Europe right wing parties they're economically 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.960 probably in Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States, 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.520 economically you would still call them left wing parties, like 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.560 nobody there there to touch the welfare state or the 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.759 idea that there should be strong government intervention in the economy. 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:20.680 The AFDs for this, of course, the Austrian right wingerself 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:24.080 all this, Orbert Feedso is for this fetesh. Victor Auban's 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:27.239 party in Hungary does this, but they're culturally conservative. So 0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.880 I think when we look at why voters flock to 0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.960 the right, it's mostly driven, correctly in my opinion, by 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:38.640 people's anxiety that they're losing cultural and social cohesion. This 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:42.440 is driven by economics, it's driven by cultural factors, and 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.799 of course it is driven to a large amount of 0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.440 by failed migration policies. But I think it's the sense 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.000 of that what people I feel have a right to 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:53.920 this kind of continuity of culture. There's a continuity of 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:57.120 social cohesion. This is crumbling, this is getting lost. I 0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.120 mean there are other factors as well. Not everything I've 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:00.879 to admit is newe to my mi. If you look, 0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.600 for example, at kind of the degradation of the working 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:07.160 class due to you know, what's happening in the education system, 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:12.399 what's happening in culture. More broadly, we mock communities when 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.799 we say people who go to church, that's ridiculous, that 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.879 all these kind of things, all these things that gave 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.799 meaning to most people, and we have destroyed all these institutions. 0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.600 And I think the unease, the psychological anxiety that this 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.040 creates is why people tend to flock to the right. 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.480 So a lot of this is a protest movement against 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.240 the establishment, and very justified. I cannot stress is enough, 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.640 because of course, what people are increasingly seeing is that 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:40.239 whatever the establishment has put forward in recent years, from 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:44.879 migration from COVID, from economic policies, you name it, from 0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.319 energy policies, all of this has either failed or very 0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.200 much increased the cost of living and the burdens that 0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:51.920 they have to carry. 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:56.120 Well Schulhammer, always fantastic to talk to you. Thanks so much. 0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.480 And you did predict a year ago that we'd be 0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:02.200 seeing farmers rebellions here in Australia. There was a big 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.040 one in Western Australia just the other day and we'll 0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.879 be talking Tony Seabrook about that shortly. Brownph look after 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:09.160 yourself and we'll chat again soon. 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.160 Thanks so much for coming on Outsiders. 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.080 After the break, we'll go to wa to talk to 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:22.399 Tony Seabrook about those demonstrations in perth On Tribe. You're 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:26.040 watching Outsiders with Rita Panahee, with James Morrow and with 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:27.040 myself Ruindan. 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:27.759 Welcome back. 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:32.200 On Friday, farmers gathered in their hundreds in Perths CBD 0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:39.160 to protest the Albanese labor government's ban on live sheep exports. 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:41.879 Joining us with more on this as someone who's there 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:45.600 at those demonstrations, Tony Seabrook, the president of the West 0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:49.719 Australian Pastoralis and Graziers Association. Tony great to see you 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:54.160 as always. So you were there on Friday. We had 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.640 a quick chat on Friday morning. You were astonished at 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.719 the number of people who had turned up. It was 0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.680 a big show. Just tell us why so, tell us 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.880 why the anger is there. I think a lot of 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:09.360 people in the distant Eastern States don't quite understand the 0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.960 issue around live export. They kind of think, oh, well, 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.920 you know, yeah, maswell ban it sounds a bit cruel. 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.840 But what is the issue and why has. 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:22.839 It galvanized WA to such an extent roll And you use. 0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.600 The word one hundreds, let's talk thousands here, good as 0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.400 four businesses across the state got out of bed at 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.200 one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning to 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:34.360 get to the rally points to initiate this actual convoy 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.719 into the CBD. Now there were four convoys, three of 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.880 the major ones. The one I was in. It was 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.799 five kilometers long. And Minister what got up and said 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.640 that said democratic right, this was absolutely huge. We was spontaneous. 0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.200 It was hardly even organized the week before when it happened. 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.440 The farmers are just absolutely dead angry at this minister 0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:57.400 that we call four Agriculture. He's not four agriculture. He's 0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:57.960 against us. 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:00.160 Tell us why. 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.319 Well, they got all acted on a majority or on 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.200 a primary vote of less than thirty percent, and now 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.480 they say they've got a mandate the shutdown a trade. 0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.600 What you're seeing in the video footage here are all 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.080 sorts of people, not just just farmers that run livestock. 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.640 There are bolt carriers there, there's everybody in the whole 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.080 State's incensed at what this minister's doing because shutting me 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:21.600 on this trade is going to kill a lot of 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.840 country towns. A huge number of people are going to 0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.040 lose their businesses. Country towns will shrink. 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:26.759 And what for. 0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.320 We're the best in the world, the absolute best in 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.319 the world, and this growing live export trade we set 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.319 the standard everywhere. And this guy's got his marching orders 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.719 from the left, from the Greens, just to get some 0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:39.920 votes out of any city in Melbourne and Sydney's prepared 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.200 to throw austraining farmers under the bus, West train farmers 0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.759 under the bus. We are supported across the length and 0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.560 the breadth of this country by cattle producers and farmers 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.239 everywhere because they don't like this minister and they don't 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:50.759 like what he's doing. 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.759 To us and tell us about those standards that you 0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.520 say are the best in the world, and why this 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:59.520 is important for Australia and what are the alternatives? Where 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.240 do people shop Otherwise. 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.280 Look about seven years ago we had that at Washi 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.120 event which no one's proud of. This trade has turned 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:10.040 itself inside out. We are the exemplar. We are so 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.000 good at what we do that we can load sheep 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.600 on a ship that have already been to the Gulf 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.600 and back again once and take them south South Africa, 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.720 up the Atlantic Ocean through the meta trained to Israel 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.399 fourteen sheep and eighteen sheep out of fourteen thousand sheep. 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.040 This is extraordinary. We are so good at what we 0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.480 do and so this has nothing to do with live 0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.920 export or the science. This is just about grubby politics. 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.719 He just wants the votes of the Greens and the 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.200 animal welfare people in the inner city of Melbourne and 0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.279 Sydney and the destruction that he will cause here. The 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.600 trade will continue. It will not stop. It will continue 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.480 from all sorts of other shitty little places in the 0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.600 world that have no standards whatsoever. We're a policeman here. 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:48.400 He ought to be proud of what we do not 0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:49.359 trying to shut us down. 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:51.880 Tony Sebrook loved the passion. 0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:55.400 Fantastic, great news and congratulations so all those in wa 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.440 who got out there and spoke with their voices and 0:42:58.480 --> 0:42:59.120 their trucks. 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:00.400 Tony Sebrook, great to chat to. 0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:00.920 You as always. 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.040 Thanks Matte here on outside as well. 0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:14.160 Let's have a little bit of instant karma. Now, let's 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:30.759 have a little bit of instant karma. So, Rita, you 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:35.960 talked about Robert de Niro quite brilliantly there before instant karma. 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:37.520 What's happened to the poor fellow? 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:41.560 Well, apparently I've got my doubts about this story, only 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.320 because it's from the Huffington Post, which is another lefty rag, 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:49.440 and the Independence also reported it. But he had a 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:53.680 twenty twenty four Service of Leadership award that was coming 0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:54.360 his way. 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:56.640 Why who knows. 0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:00.640 But after he's well find. 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:07.000 Spectacle brilliantly outside of Manhattan courtroom, they decided to withdraw 0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.759 that because that that could be seen as a bit 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.080 of a distraction and bring a bit of shame uponto 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:14.480 the award. 0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:15.920 Poor ol Bob Deniero. 0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.920 As you said, reader, he should stick to other people 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:22.120 writing his lines for particularly Martin Scorsese. 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.200 James, let's do a bit of net Zania. 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:28.040 There's a green project here that is what a surprise, Jans. 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.400 It's actually damaging the environment. 0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.120 Well, that's amazing, you know, it's we just sort of 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.160 keep seeing this over and over again. But there's this 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.000 project called the Maya Trade, which is a thirty billion 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:42.680 dollar project by the Mexican president. Now apparently this is 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:48.239 going to involve slamming fifteen thousand giant steel posts into 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:52.319 the ground across Mexico, which is going to destroy the sonotes. 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.120 And if you've ever seen the photos of them, we 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.120 have been there yourself. They're amazing. They're these underground of 0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:04.080 half waterfield caverage. People explore them. They're quite beautiful environmental 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:07.120 treasures and they exist I think really early in Mexico. Then, 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:11.960 But of course, you know, the pillar. 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:13.920 Destroy the planet to save the planet. 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:18.680 Is there a green project anywhere that you can think 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.480 of the top of your head that actually doesn't do 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.560 monumental damage to the environment. You look at the solar farms, 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.360 you look at the damage stages to the natural the 0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:33.160 onshore offshore wind farms and what they're doing to bird life. 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.000 And you're leaving one out you're leaving on out There 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.880 is one green project that actually you know, has a 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.280 very minimal impact on the environment. It's called nuclear power. 0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:51.560 The ground there, it's called nuclear power, and it is 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:55.040 the most expensive form of power on the planet except 0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:55.719 except that. 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:59.279 It isn't You're a whale. There you go a bit of. 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:03.120 Whacademia for this is this is shocking stuff. Well done 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.719 again to Ben Fordham at t GB for coming out 0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.760 with this story. This three year old told to apologize 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.279 to the stolen generation. 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:13.120 But it is still. 0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.840 They're being told to apologize or things that have happened 0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.359 over one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago. Now 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:23.120 my son's done nothing wrong. 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:23.839 What sort of. 0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.640 Guilt are we instilling in young children at the age 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:30.279 of three and a half years old. This is outageous. 0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:35.320 This hideous brainwashing of children across all walks of life, 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:39.800 all of it the hard left agenda of climate of gender. 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:45.440 In this instance of indigenous history, apologize white guilt. It 0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:50.719 is relentless, No wonder our children are so depressed that 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:52.879 it is child that. 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.880 Is, for a three year old who believes anything you 0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:59.480 tell them that you remember that if anyone who's had 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:03.799 children remembers them at that age to be saying to them, 0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:09.160 you are guilty of something as highnous as stealing children 0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:11.800 and you need to apologize, because why else would you 0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.799 be apologizing if you don't carry some guilt. It is 0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:20.359 not just confusing, but as terrible burden. It is to 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:24.240 be putting a divisive It doesn't actually have any marriage, 0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:25.560 it has nothing good happen. 0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:29.200 It's not just about making the kid feel bad about themselves. 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:32.720 It's also really calculated and I think really sinister, because 0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:34.759 the effort of all of these things here is to 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:41.760 undermine the next generation's faith in Australia as a successful, prosperous, 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:46.239 tolerant nation that we currently know and love, and to 0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:52.280 replace it with this sort of self loathing government, self 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.720 loathing culture where the left can come in and remake 0:47:55.800 --> 0:48:00.560 it in their own miserable image. That's what the point 0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:02.120 of all of this is. You know, you want to 0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.319 know why social cohesion goes down, You want to know 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:08.200 why all the civics education goes off a cliff. It 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.360 all comes back to this sort of thing where you 0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:13.600 are fundamentally from the very start, from the time they 0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:17.200 get your kids and your grandkids into the classroom and 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:19.759 can start telling them things that you don't know. They're 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.480 telling them that they get them. They will be telling 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.240 them that this ain't a great country and they should 0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:29.400 be ashamed of it, and that they should then you know, 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:33.759 of course, anything about preserving the nation of the flag Australia, Ay, 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:37.239 anything about that, that's all evil And of course you 0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:39.160 going to grow up with a bunch of miserable kids 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.160 who hate Australia and that's not what we wanted. 0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:45.600 Gills hate themselves exactly. But don't think you know, I 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.560 don't think. Ah, if my pandas the Left, then it's 0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.279 all going to be okay because they're busy attacking them. Yeah, 0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.319 I might as well let my kid be brainwashed into 0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:56.080 this indigenous stuff because you know, don't grow up and 0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:57.479 the left will never attack them. 0:48:57.560 --> 0:48:57.840 Wrong. 0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:02.800 What we see in Canada, the Vancouver Comic Arts Festival 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:09.400 as banned a very kind of woke appearing comedian because 0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:10.680 she's Jewish. 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:12.080 Have a look here. 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:17.880 We go, yep, Vancouver Comics Festival bands Jewish artist Miriam Leviiki. 0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.360 Overpassed IDF service, so she's. 0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:24.040 Been banned because she served for her country on the 0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:24.839 Israeli Rowan. 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:30.080 There's been an update. They have apologized the organizers. 0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:34.680 No no, not to her, Sorry to the stolen generations. 0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.360 Maybe no, no, they've apologized for booking her in the 0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:41.480 first place, given apology, but not to this woman that 0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:44.640 they're discriminating against. But this is what I keep saying 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:49.200 about the culture wars, as so many conservatives people on 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.759 the right to dismiss them, and sadly many of the 0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:53.120 politicians on the right. 0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:55.120 You may not care about. 0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.359 The culture wars, but the culture wars care about you. 0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:00.840 We're going to impact you and your family, whether you 0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:03.000 like it or not. So you better get interested if 0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.080 you actually care about these consequential issues, because. 0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.000 They are not going to go away. 0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:09.880 They're not going to stop telling your kids that they 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.280 should be ashamed of their whiteness, that should be ashamed 0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:17.080 of their country, that they're on stolen land, all this 0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:20.440 nonsense that you know, they need to announce their pronouns 0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:21.720 at the start of each class. 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:22.799 That's happening at. 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:26.560 Some university courses where they introduce and part of the 0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:30.160 introduction is to announce your pronouns. 0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:33.080 Jane's very quickly Bob mcquaid's book on. 0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:36.560 Oh this is great I love this. So she's written 0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:39.600 a whole book on disinformation, and she tweets, well, here 0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:41.919 it is the completed draft of my book on disinformation. 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:45.600 I've just submitted the manuscript. And then somebody's gone back 0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:48.919 and doug out a tweet from twenty twenty when she says, yes, 0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:54.320 the laptop, the Hunter laptop is Russia. So she's the 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:58.680 disinformation expert spreading the Russia hopes. I love it, Brelliant. 0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:05.680 Just about every single disinformation expert activist is a spreader 0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:06.560 of disinformation. 0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:08.640 It's not true, difficult to work at at. 0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:17.320 After the break we'll look at labours, utter, incompetency, unity. Hello, 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:22.279 you're watching Outsiders with Rita Drain the swamp, Panahee, James 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:27.280 Bungling bureaucrats tomorrow and myself Rowan pumped the Burley Griffin 0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:28.440 Bilger's Dean. 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.080 I have often commented. 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:35.680 On and written about the three eyes that define the 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:40.280 Albanese government and the overpaid so Humphreys of Canberra. Every 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:47.040 single action taken can be defined by ideology, idiocy and incompetence. 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.600 This week, I'm sorry to say it was no exception 0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:53.600 on virtually every front. This is not only a government 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:58.279 mind in ideology and idiocy, but a Canberra bureaucracy of 0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:05.399 public servants who have incompetence as their overriding KPI. More 0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:07.400 of that in a sec but first exhibit A. We 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:09.600 had the great news this week of the failure of 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:13.640 the World Health Organization's sinister and Orwellian attempt to seize 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:17.719 global power through a Global Pandemic treaty. The World Health 0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:21.400 Assembly could not reach an agreement, the vote failed, and 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:22.640 the treaty collapsed. 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:24.000 Excellent news. 0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:30.040 But of course, like the Voice, these leftists will keep 0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:33.480 on trying to sneak this thing through one way or another, 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:36.319 and indeed they've said this morning they will get it 0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:40.080 through by May next year. But for the meantime, let's 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:43.759 enjoy the victory. I've been warning about this Global Pandemic 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:47.120 treaty for several years on this show. Many have said, 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:50.480 fairly in my opinion, that giving the World Health Organization 0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:54.040 the sort of powers they wanted would make COVID look 0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:58.279 like a picnic. Of course, it's worth remembering that it 0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:02.320 was Labor who gave us the Dan Andrew's COVID regime, 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:07.040 the most draconian and sinister in the Western world, right 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:11.560 up there with China and other authoritarian dictatorships. None of 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:15.040 the police, by the way, who choked women, shot rubber 0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:20.239 bullets at innocent protesters, through people to the ground, smashed 0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:23.680 bystanders with rifle butts, or ran them over with their 0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:27.359 cars has been put in prison, which is where they 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:32.120 be long So in life of all that authoritarian brutality, 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:35.040 how do you think the Albanesi government approached the World 0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:40.000 Health Organization Pandemic Treaty vote. Surely any self respecting Australian 0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:43.160 government would have been at the forefront of Western democracies 0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.880 insisting that what we learned from COVID is not to 0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:51.440 take the medical authorities and bureaucrats as gospel, not to 0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:56.200 go down the totalitarian pathway of lockdowns and mandates. Surely 0:53:56.280 --> 0:54:00.239 the Albanesi government would have been urging restraint they are 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:04.080 so fond of doing in other areas. Nope, have a 0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:08.280 listen to Labour's Federal Health Minister Mark Butler earlier this week, 0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:11.799 just as the Global Pandemic Treaty was being voted on. 0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:17.600 Australia is invested in the future of whow to ensuring 0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:22.520 its responsive and sustainably financed to fulfill its Mandate. We're 0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:27.800 also fully committed to concluding the Whhow Pandemic Agreement. Together, 0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:31.520 we've made considerable progress in our shared ambition towards a 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:36.640 set of binding international commitments for pandemic prevention, preparedness and response, 0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:39.600 and we have a strong basis on which to finalize 0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:44.160 important amendments to the international Health regulations this week. I 0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:47.280 urge all member states to redouble their efforts to resolve 0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:51.280 the remaining challenges and seize this opportunity to agree critical 0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:55.440 reforms to our global health architecture, because we simply cannot 0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:56.440 afford to fail. 0:54:57.560 --> 0:54:59.920 What a disgrace. There you have it in a nut. 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:03.960 The ideology hand over our sovereignty as a nation to 0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:11.239 unelected internationalists. The idiocy fortify and strengthen our binding commitments 0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:15.480 to some overseas mob thereby ignoring everything we learned during 0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:20.320 COVID about the deadly dangers of bureaucratic overreach and the incompetence. 0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:24.760 Well the treaty failed. Thank goodness, nobody listens to Mark Butler. 0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:28.080 The ideology and idiocy were on display in a particularly 0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:32.120 amusing and ironical way this week on several domestic fronts. 0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:33.880 Unashamed about her. 0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:38.319 Own role in the disgraceful Victorian government's COVID police brutality. 0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:43.479 Premier Jacinta Allan literally stunned the world when this week 0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:49.520 she announced a Parliamentary Secretary for Men's Behavior Change. As 0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:53.879 Terry Barnes wrote brilliantly in the UK Spectator, quote this week, 0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:58.319 Jasina Allan has put Victoria on the international map with 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:03.320 one of the most bizarre pieces of identity politics yet seen. 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:04.480 From a Western government. 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:08.880 He went on, Terry Alan is playing gesture politics with 0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:15.080 an untrue and judgmental generalization about men in Australian society, 0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.719 with a gimmick that has made her, her government and 0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:22.680 the state of Victoria an international laughing stock. 0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:23.800 End of quote. 0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:29.880 Yes, this is socialist silliness on steroids. The ideology all 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:35.000 white Christian heterosexual males are oppressors and women bashers or. 0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:35.680 Something like that. 0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:41.239 The idiocy, or rather the unfathomable hypocrisy, is that on 0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:45.319 the very same day we learned that there are some 0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:49.920 men behaving very badly in Australia. They are the rapists 0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:54.040 and pedophiles who have been allowed to remain in Australia 0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:57.440 rather than being deported as a result of a direction 0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:01.160 made by just into Alan's lay labor colleagues in the 0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:07.120 Albanese government, in particular the hopeless Immigration Minister Andrew Giles. 0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:12.440 So while over here a labor government is looking around 0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:13.400 for men. 0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:17.720 Whose behavior they can change, over there, a. 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:21.000 Labor government is allowing hundreds of the worst sort of 0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:24.760 men who should be in detention or be deported to 0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:27.600 Rome free, raping and bashing women. 0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:33.080 What sickening hypocrisy. As I say, at. 0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:38.240 The intersection where ideology meets idiocy, idiocy, you will always 0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:42.760 find a labor politician. But now let's get to the incompetence. 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.240 And this is breathtakingly terrifying. You know, I'm a big 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.400 fan of Liberal Senator for Victoria James Patterson, and the 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:52.400 work he does holding labor and the Canberra bureaucrats to 0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:56.200 account is superb No more so than this week, with 0:57:56.280 --> 0:58:00.880 the help of this news network. Here he is the 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:04.120 Senate to quizzing the buff eds, that's the polite word, 0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:08.800 Labor Minister Murray Watt and his top bureaucrat, Stephanie Foster 0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:12.400 from the Department of Home Affairs, about those very same 0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:17.080 men who had their deportations reversed by labor to terrorize 0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:18.520 everyday Australians. 0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:22.160 In a new case uncovered by The Australian, British born 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:26.280 masseur and rapist Charles William Davidson in February had the 0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:29.880 cancelation of his visa revoked despite having been convicted of 0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:33.320 eight counts of rape, forty eight counts of sexual assault 0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:36.560 and three counts of indecent treatment of children under sixteen. 0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:39.800 In sentencing, the judges said the serial rapist has demonstrated 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:43.600 absolutely no remorse whatsoever, and it goes on. This is 0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:46.919 absolutely horrific offending. This is a textbook case of someone 0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:49.120 who should not be in our community, regardless of how 0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.880 long they are here. How on earth have we found 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.600 ourselves in a situation where as a result of a 0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:57.920 ministry or direction, the AAT is allowing people like this 0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.160 to stay in our country. 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:04.880 Well, I think you know, you have just pointed us 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:06.680 to an article that none of us have had an 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:12.280 opportunity to read, let alone fact check. So I think 0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:14.400 we would probably need a little bit of time to. 0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:16.440 Do that. 0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:18.280 I mean, it's just on a human level, short that 0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:21.280 you can react to the information. 0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:23.680 Well, I'd want to make sure that everything in the 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:27.600 article is accurate to begin with, I'm not saying it's not. 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:28.360 I just don't know. 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.560 This decision was in February. This is not a long 0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:35.560 time ago. The department should be across this case is 0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:36.800 the department where of this case? 0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:50.960 Have you ever seen anything more disgraceful in your entire life? 0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:54.560 These fools have no idea what is going on in 0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:58.880 their own department. So violent serial rapist spared deportation because 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:04.240 of bureaucratic idiocy or incompetence and have to be informed. 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:07.800 They have to be informed by the Australian newspaper. But 1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:11.720 wait for it, this hapless fool Murray what then literally 1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:15.120 admits listen that the government has no idea what it 1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:21.400 is doing and only reacts to events rather than anticipating them. 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:25.720 The absolute hallmark, as any CEO or business person knows 1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:27.840 of amateur hour incompetence. 1:00:28.960 --> 1:00:33.400 But we now have circa thirty cases where consistently AAT 1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:36.360 members are making decisions to overturn the cancelation of a 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:40.240 visa and citing this provision of the Minister's guidance. 1:00:41.400 --> 1:00:42.880 One we could. 1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:45.200 Attribute to them and be their fault, but this is systemic. 1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:47.360 This is happening across the board. How is it not 1:00:47.440 --> 1:00:48.480 a result of the direction? 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.840 Well, that is, and that now that the Minister is 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:54.680 aware of those cases, he is taking action. 1:00:57.480 --> 1:01:01.200 Now have a listened to Stephanie Foster, Sir Humphrey, sorry, 1:01:01.280 --> 1:01:05.120 the Lady Humphrey at Home Affairs, who received a Public 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:09.880 Service Medal in two thousand and eight for outstanding public service, 1:01:10.200 --> 1:01:12.920 and who was rumored to have been on an annual 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:16.680 to be on an annual salary of nine hundred and 1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:21.760 twenty eight thousand dollars, who was according to the financial 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:26.160 review appointed by the Albanesi Labor government in November last 1:01:26.240 --> 1:01:32.919 year quote without a competitive selection process. 1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:36.360 Secretary, how is it that the Australian newspaper can identify 1:01:36.560 --> 1:01:40.240 dozens of these cases and the Minister's office cart. 1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:50.560 So, Senator. 1:01:54.720 --> 1:01:58.080 I repeat, a rumored salary of nine hundred and twenty 1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:02.960 eight thousand dollars per appointed, not by an open merit 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:06.200 based process, and unable to answer why a couple of 1:02:06.280 --> 1:02:09.360 journals at News Corps are capable of doing a far 1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:13.280 better job than the armies and armies of bureaucrats in camera. 1:02:13.640 --> 1:02:16.840 But as I always say, why stop at one useless 1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:20.160 canra public servant? When you've got a whole city full 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:21.240 of them to choose from. 1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:26.960 So what that paragraph that you just called out is 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:37.000 about saying within that one primary consideration that more weight 1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:39.960 is to be given to time spent in Australia in 1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:42.440 a person's earlier formative. 1:02:42.040 --> 1:02:44.040 Years, regardless of the level of their offending. 1:02:47.640 --> 1:02:59.200 So Senator, that's no, that says regardless when they're offending 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:01.800 commenced and the level of that offendee. 1:03:02.040 --> 1:03:04.600 Yes, so regardless of their level of offending. 1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:13.040 Yes, these are the people, those bureaucrats we pay astronomical 1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:15.440 amount of money too, and who are charged with running 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:19.360 this country. You may think they are worth every penny. 1:03:19.400 --> 1:03:21.080 I respectfully disagree. 1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:23.640 We all know about this issue now, it's out in 1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:25.520 the open. It's been there since late last week. The 1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:29.280 Australian is continuing as a newspaper organization, being not informed 1:03:29.320 --> 1:03:32.480 by you, to find these cases that then get subsequently 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:34.400 added to the Minister's list of cases to look at 1:03:34.440 --> 1:03:36.840 for the department. How is it that you're not finding 1:03:36.840 --> 1:03:38.720 these cases? How is it that the Minister's office is 1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:40.840 not finding these cases with all the resources of government, 1:03:41.000 --> 1:03:43.240 and the Minister's just asked that you add to the 1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:46.560 list these cases found by The Australian that presumably he 1:03:46.640 --> 1:03:48.320 wasn't aware of an hour ago, otherwise it would have 1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:50.440 already been on your list. He's only aware of it 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:52.240 because it's gone up on the Australian online. And I 1:03:52.360 --> 1:03:53.760 just asked Minister what about it? 1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:56.800 And Senative we're working as fast as we can through 1:03:56.920 --> 1:03:57.760 all of the relevant can. 1:03:58.160 --> 1:03:59.960 Fastest to journalists at the Australian. Apparent. 1:04:03.360 --> 1:04:08.000 Bravo, Senator Patterson, well done mate. Equally impressive this week 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:12.320 was Sarah Henderson, also from Victoria, questioning the utterly useless 1:04:12.360 --> 1:04:18.800 and incompetent Australian Human Rights Commission and their president Rosalind Croucher. 1:04:19.480 --> 1:04:22.880 She is only on a poultry salary, you know, a lazy. 1:04:22.560 --> 1:04:27.680 Half million dollars per annum over their complete failure to 1:04:27.880 --> 1:04:33.200 condemn Hamas, complete failure to condemn the Sydney Opera House, 1:04:33.560 --> 1:04:34.480 vile gas the. 1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:36.120 Jews, where's the Jews riots? 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:41.600 And complete failure to stem the horrific upsurge in anti Semitism. 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:46.600 Some highlights and a quick lesson in obfuscation and evasiveness 1:04:46.640 --> 1:04:48.960 to put it politely. 1:04:49.760 --> 1:04:51.880 Just to clarify my question, have you put out a 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:58.000 statement condemning the conduct of Hammas, or mention or a 1:04:58.040 --> 1:04:59.800 statement that mentions Hummas. 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:03.040 Technic. 1:05:04.040 --> 1:05:08.680 Yes, I'm hesitating only because I will would not like 1:05:08.760 --> 1:05:10.120 to give an inaccurate answer. 1:05:10.240 --> 1:05:13.040 Well, I've reviewed your media releases and there's no mention 1:05:13.440 --> 1:05:16.280 of Hummas. And I look at your media release of 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:21.120 the thirteenth of October twenty twenty three, and again there's 1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:30.080 no mention of the Hummas terrorist attack. That's very concerning, 1:05:30.120 --> 1:05:31.880 I would put to you President. 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:38.600 The Commission's approach has been to acknowledge the crisis that 1:05:38.680 --> 1:05:42.919 has arisen, to speak about the mandate that we have 1:05:43.120 --> 1:05:48.920 within Australia, which is to focus upon the impacts of 1:05:48.960 --> 1:05:55.280 that crisis on our people. Here, the rise in anti Semitism, 1:05:55.640 --> 1:06:03.280 the rise in anti Palestinian and anti Arab attacks, Islamophobia. 1:06:03.320 --> 1:06:06.800 So Hummus is a listed terrorist organization in Australia. A 1:06:06.880 --> 1:06:09.880 review of your website shows there's no mention of the 1:06:09.880 --> 1:06:13.840 word Hummus. Do you not acknowledge the horrific impact that 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:16.800 the Hummus terrorist attack has had on Australians. 1:06:17.600 --> 1:06:20.560 All of our focus has been on that horrific attack. 1:06:20.720 --> 1:06:24.160 Indeed, so there was no mention of the Hummas terrorists, though, 1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:26.680 is there any reason why that's the case? 1:06:28.160 --> 1:06:31.480 We referred to we have referred to the attacks in October, 1:06:31.520 --> 1:06:34.640 and we've referred to the hostages issue if you want 1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:38.280 that particular word. The word hammus may not have been used, 1:06:38.320 --> 1:06:41.800 but the context of all of our statements clearly draws 1:06:41.840 --> 1:06:45.480 attention to the impact of the attacks of seventh of 1:06:45.480 --> 1:06:49.440 October and all of the impact on people in Australia 1:06:49.480 --> 1:06:52.760 who have inherited trauma that they carry. 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:54.920 Because on a review of your media releases, you haven't 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:58.480 put out a media release responding to the wave of 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:03.400 anti Semitic attacks across Australia. And I would also ask 1:07:03.480 --> 1:07:07.640 you about did you put out a release condemning the 1:07:07.680 --> 1:07:10.720 protests by pro Humas individuals at the Opera House. 1:07:11.840 --> 1:07:16.680 All of our material, Senator, refers to the impact on 1:07:17.200 --> 1:07:18.040 all of the community. 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:20.680 I just ask you to address that question, please, President. 1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:24.000 The communities were mentioned in the thirteen October. 1:07:23.520 --> 1:07:29.280 And yeah, the communities affected were mentioned in our releases 1:07:29.280 --> 1:07:33.720 on the thirteenth of October and the twenty ninth of January. 1:07:33.800 --> 1:07:37.320 We may not have referred to the specific incidents that 1:07:37.360 --> 1:07:42.439 you are calling out. However, the entire tenor of the 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:48.800 suite of media releases and other engagement, both public and 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:53.120 with communities, is focused on addressing the very real impacts 1:07:53.440 --> 1:07:55.600 on the communities affected in Australia. 1:07:57.160 --> 1:08:00.120 The tenor of the suite whoa, whoah got that's it's 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:05.120 the Australian Human Rights Commission President attacks on Palestinians, Arabs 1:08:05.160 --> 1:08:10.880 really inherited trauma, impacts on communities, Suite of whatever. This 1:08:11.040 --> 1:08:16.560 is delusional left wing jargon and woke spin on steroids. Bureaucracies, 1:08:16.600 --> 1:08:19.400 I'm afraid are a joke. We'd be better off keeping 1:08:19.400 --> 1:08:22.160 our tax dollars and put that lot out to pasture. Seriously, 1:08:22.240 --> 1:08:25.360 this country is being run by fools and worst leftist ideologues, 1:08:25.600 --> 1:08:32.080 the ideology, the idiocy and the incompetence Labour's three eyes. 1:08:32.680 --> 1:08:35.200 The sooner we get a change of government, the better. 1:08:35.240 --> 1:08:35.800 For aud Us. 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:44.200 Well, someone who was at those Senate Estimates hearings and 1:08:45.000 --> 1:08:48.280 talking to bureaucrats. I don't know how he managed to 1:08:48.280 --> 1:08:50.439 do it, but was of course New South Wales new 1:08:50.520 --> 1:08:54.040 Senator Dave Sharma, who joins us here on the desk 1:08:54.280 --> 1:08:56.479 in Sydney on Outsiders. Dave, great to have you here 1:08:56.560 --> 1:09:00.080 on Outsiders you were there at Senate Estimates hearings, do 1:09:00.120 --> 1:09:02.479 you ask some very pertinent questions. 1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:04.160 You didn't seem to get any answers. 1:09:04.160 --> 1:09:06.080 But that seems to be the way it runs over 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:10.839 there about the fact that a bunch several hundred bureaucrats 1:09:10.840 --> 1:09:16.280 had signed letters basically condemning Israel, blaming Israel genocide and 1:09:16.280 --> 1:09:19.320 all sorts of horrible language, very very political. And the 1:09:19.320 --> 1:09:21.080 point you were making, I think, I don't want to 1:09:21.080 --> 1:09:22.240 put words in your mouth. 1:09:22.200 --> 1:09:23.800 Is that the public service is supposed to be a 1:09:23.880 --> 1:09:25.200 political absolutely. 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:28.600 So there's a letter that's apparently been signed by eight 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:32.559 hundred and seventy one public servants federal, state, and local government. 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:36.479 But I mean they condemned the government's policy, they demand 1:09:36.640 --> 1:09:38.920 changes in government policy, they sign their names to it, 1:09:38.960 --> 1:09:41.679 they put their departments. This is not what a public 1:09:41.680 --> 1:09:43.640 service is meant to do. A public servant meant to 1:09:43.640 --> 1:09:46.080 serve the elected government of the day. So I did 1:09:46.120 --> 1:09:48.479 take this up with the Secretary of the Department of Arts, 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:50.240 and I'll be taking it up next week as well 1:09:50.280 --> 1:09:54.519 with all other secretaries. It's unbelievable, it's outrageous that you 1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:57.360 know it's up there with the ABC journalists, you know, 1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:00.840 it's worse in some respects journalists at least they have 1:10:00.840 --> 1:10:04.639 a public voice, public servants and meant to be advising ministers, 1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:07.120 but they're not meant to be taking part in publicly 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:08.599 advocating for government now. 1:10:08.800 --> 1:10:10.880 Side Morning Herald had to go at you this week 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:14.400 for appearing with David Adda and the Australian Jewish Association 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:17.599 David Adams often on this show and on Sky they 1:10:17.640 --> 1:10:20.040 had to go at you, which was pretty low brow. 1:10:20.439 --> 1:10:24.160 You were the ambassador in Israel, you have been, and 1:10:24.320 --> 1:10:26.679 you were the member for Wentworth for a long time, 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:32.960 a large Jewish constituency. What has been the impact of 1:10:33.080 --> 1:10:37.360 October seventh on the Jewish communities of Australia and have 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:39.680 the government done enough to address that? 1:10:40.360 --> 1:10:42.120 Well, the impact has been massive. I don't think the 1:10:42.160 --> 1:10:46.160 Jewish community in Australia has ever felt as unsafe or 1:10:46.160 --> 1:10:48.360 threatened as they have in the wake of the seventh 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:51.479 of October. And I think frankly they'd been let down 1:10:51.520 --> 1:10:54.280 by their political leadership and their government. It's failed to 1:10:54.280 --> 1:10:57.479 give a clear signal about the unacceptable rise in anti 1:10:57.479 --> 1:11:00.240 Semitism and as a result, it's given a lice to 1:11:00.680 --> 1:11:04.880 a whole lot of awful sentiments towards Jewish people that 1:11:04.960 --> 1:11:08.040 have basically been allowed to run rampant. So I think 1:11:08.040 --> 1:11:10.639 the Jewish community feels let down, they feel besieged, they 1:11:10.640 --> 1:11:13.200 feel threatened, and they wonder what's become of the Australia 1:11:13.240 --> 1:11:17.200 that has been their home, many of them since Australia's settlement. 1:11:17.240 --> 1:11:19.400 You know, the Jewish population Australia goes back to the 1:11:19.439 --> 1:11:22.040 first Fleet, many of them who came here in the 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:24.360 wake of the Second World War, fleeing the Holocaust and 1:11:24.400 --> 1:11:26.800 building a life here, many of whom have helped make 1:11:26.840 --> 1:11:32.599 Australia tremendously prosperous, successful, innovative, cultural and rich nation. And 1:11:32.640 --> 1:11:35.360 they're wondering there's still a home for us here. We're 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:36.120 still welcome here. 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:39.000 I want to get back to this hit job at 1:11:39.040 --> 1:11:43.040 the Sidney Morning Herald launched against Australian Jewish Association. 1:11:43.920 --> 1:11:45.120 What's your response to that? 1:11:45.320 --> 1:11:51.479 Because they quoted labor MPs who were accusing you of 1:11:51.640 --> 1:11:56.360 encouraging extremism. I'm laughing because it's so utterly absurd on 1:11:56.400 --> 1:11:58.559 the face of it, but this was in a major 1:11:58.800 --> 1:12:00.000 Australian newspaper. 1:12:00.439 --> 1:12:01.360 What's your response to. 1:12:01.520 --> 1:12:05.000 Well, Look, the Australian Jewish Association represents part of the 1:12:05.080 --> 1:12:07.360 Jewish community in Australia. I don't pretend they and they 1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:10.400 don't pretend they represent all of it. And as far 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:12.400 as I'm aware, they have not been calling for the 1:12:12.439 --> 1:12:15.040 destruction of a nascent Palestinian state. They have not been 1:12:15.080 --> 1:12:17.680 saying death to our Arabs or gas the Arabs. They 1:12:17.680 --> 1:12:20.160 have not been agitating protests, they have not been calling 1:12:20.160 --> 1:12:21.240 for property damage. 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:23.599 But we have labor MPs who meet. 1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:27.040 All the time with the Australian Palestine Advocacy Network. Penny 1:12:27.040 --> 1:12:29.920 Wong met with Nasal Imagining just a few days after 1:12:29.920 --> 1:12:32.679 the October seventh at text. Now our APAN has called 1:12:32.720 --> 1:12:35.640 for the destruction of the Jewish state, the elimination of 1:12:35.640 --> 1:12:38.240 the state of Israel. They're behind They're behind this letter, 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:41.599 open signed letter by public servants. They're behind a number 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:43.640 of the protests on university campuses. 1:12:44.360 --> 1:12:46.760 But that's not supporting extremely for some reason. 1:12:46.520 --> 1:12:49.920 That's like, that's not supporting a Jewish organization does not. 1:12:50.320 --> 1:12:52.759 James, Senator, I want to ask you though about Anthony 1:12:52.760 --> 1:12:56.200 albert easiest performance through all of this since October seventh, 1:12:56.280 --> 1:12:58.479 it seems like time and time again he has had 1:12:58.520 --> 1:13:01.040 to be dragged to do the right thing and speak 1:13:02.120 --> 1:13:04.240 on the side of Israel and in support of the 1:13:04.320 --> 1:13:06.920 Jewish community, while at the same time playing foot see 1:13:07.000 --> 1:13:10.160 and seeing something else to other communities. How would you 1:13:10.240 --> 1:13:12.840 rate the job that the Prime Minister has done? And 1:13:13.120 --> 1:13:15.320 do you think that he has control of the narrative 1:13:15.439 --> 1:13:17.719 or is the narrative on the issue for the government 1:13:17.880 --> 1:13:20.760 now being controlled by a the Greens and hard left 1:13:20.760 --> 1:13:23.720 members of the Labor Party and b by some other 1:13:23.840 --> 1:13:26.360 multicultural communities that are quite anti Israel. 1:13:26.880 --> 1:13:28.439 I don't think he has control of the narrative. I 1:13:28.439 --> 1:13:30.519 don't think he's been leading on this at all. I 1:13:30.560 --> 1:13:32.760 think the most generous assessment you could say of him 1:13:32.840 --> 1:13:34.639 is he's been like a deer in the headlights. He's 1:13:34.680 --> 1:13:37.320 sort of reacting to whatever has just happened. But he 1:13:37.360 --> 1:13:39.760 doesn't have a view of what the position is that 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:41.759 he should be taking or the government should be taking. 1:13:42.080 --> 1:13:44.720 And you've got, I mean tremendous ill discipline amongst all 1:13:44.720 --> 1:13:47.679 his senior front bench, which means there's a whole variety 1:13:47.720 --> 1:13:50.720 of messages out there and the community doesn't know what 1:13:50.760 --> 1:13:51.960 it is that they're trying to listen to it. 1:13:52.200 --> 1:13:56.200 He had a labor m P in the Upper House 1:13:57.439 --> 1:13:59.400 repeat the phrase from the river resentency. 1:14:00.160 --> 1:14:03.200 Now what action has he taken there to? 1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:06.320 I know he has said that that is a phrase 1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:10.320 that is unacceptable, that promotes violence, and then he has 1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:13.400 his own MP out of those words. 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:16.160 What's he doing about it? What strong action is something? 1:14:16.240 --> 1:14:18.080 I mean, the truth is he hasn't even spoken to 1:14:18.120 --> 1:14:22.840 her about this. There's been no discipline, no consequences. You've 1:14:22.840 --> 1:14:24.640 got to remember, in any other area, in labor is 1:14:24.640 --> 1:14:28.840 a tightly wrung, highly hierarchical, disciplined, organized machine. You don't 1:14:28.840 --> 1:14:31.240 get to speak out against labor policy and your political 1:14:31.320 --> 1:14:35.519 career survive. There's not a sort of broad Church exactly. 1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:37.120 But the fact that this has been about to run 1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:39.800 it suggests to me that they're almost trying to send 1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:42.480 out a whole lot of multiple messages to multiple communities. 1:14:43.160 --> 1:14:44.240 He just running scared. 1:14:44.360 --> 1:14:46.920 Is he too terrified to take strong action against this 1:14:47.479 --> 1:14:51.920 MP because that is going to antagonize those very communities 1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:52.599 that he's trying. 1:14:52.439 --> 1:14:55.439 To appease by absolutely playing both sides. 1:14:55.479 --> 1:14:58.120 Absolutely, I just want to quickly ask you, Dave about 1:14:58.120 --> 1:15:04.000 the teals because Israel has the Knesset is declaring or 1:15:04.320 --> 1:15:08.120 wants to declare ANOIR, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, 1:15:08.200 --> 1:15:11.519 as a terrorist organization. Now you were defeated by a 1:15:11.560 --> 1:15:15.080 Teal in the seat of Wentworth. The Teals signed a 1:15:15.160 --> 1:15:17.960 letter I've got the letter I did, calling for the 1:15:18.880 --> 1:15:22.400 refunding read more refinancing and refunding of austrating tax dollars 1:15:22.439 --> 1:15:22.800 to UNWAR. 1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:23.880 That was a couple of months ago. 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:27.880 Penny Wog immediately did that at arguably at the behest 1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:29.960 of the Teals, but certainly with the support of the 1:15:30.000 --> 1:15:34.360 Teals the seat of Wentworth. How do they respond to 1:15:35.040 --> 1:15:39.160 a leg respender, the person who defeated you, running around 1:15:39.160 --> 1:15:41.519 asking for the support of UNWAR, which the Kanesset are 1:15:41.560 --> 1:15:44.200 now declaring a terrorist organization. 1:15:43.880 --> 1:15:46.439 And which was found to be complicit in the October 1:15:46.479 --> 1:15:49.639 seventh terrorist yes under employees who some of them literally 1:15:49.640 --> 1:15:53.280 crossed the fence into Israel and committed murders and any 1:15:53.960 --> 1:15:57.599 number of atrocities. Jewish community in Wentworth is appalled by 1:15:57.640 --> 1:16:00.880 this because they recognize that has but on its hands 1:16:00.920 --> 1:16:03.240 as a result of the seventh of October, and UNR 1:16:03.400 --> 1:16:05.120 is part of the problem, not part of a solution. 1:16:05.200 --> 1:16:07.960 So the fact that someone who purports to represent the 1:16:08.080 --> 1:16:11.240 largest Jewish community in Sydney is saying the government should 1:16:11.240 --> 1:16:12.599 start funding this again. 1:16:13.400 --> 1:16:14.960 They just think is preposterous. 1:16:14.760 --> 1:16:17.920 It's detached from reality and it's incredibly unhelpful. They say 1:16:17.960 --> 1:16:18.960 it as a hostile act. 1:16:19.320 --> 1:16:21.080 Well, I think they've got the next election in which 1:16:21.120 --> 1:16:24.200 they can perhaps re correct that era that they made. 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:26.639 Dave Shanna, thanks for coming on, Outsiders Or is great 1:16:26.640 --> 1:16:28.360 to chat to you, and good luck. 1:16:28.439 --> 1:16:30.120 They're at Senate estimates next week. 1:16:30.320 --> 1:16:30.840 Look forward to. 1:16:30.840 --> 1:16:33.280 Seeing what you're going to do. They're fantastic. After the break, 1:16:33.360 --> 1:16:35.400 James is don't give a more Trump in a tick. 1:16:39.040 --> 1:16:41.600 Welcome back to the program. I'm James Morrow here with 1:16:41.680 --> 1:16:45.559 my colleagues Rowan, Too Big to Rig, Dean and Rita. 1:16:45.680 --> 1:16:49.400 They've crossed the Ruba Khan panahe. This week, of course, 1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:52.320 saw the historic conviction of Donald Trump on a whole 1:16:52.680 --> 1:16:56.880 load of jump jumped up hush money election interference charges, 1:16:56.920 --> 1:17:00.280 which we're going to go through in a minute. Before 1:17:00.280 --> 1:17:02.880 we do that, I wanted to share a bit of 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:07.960 this ad the Trump team shared just twenty four hours 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:11.920 before the verdict came down, and which suggests Team Trump 1:17:12.080 --> 1:17:14.240 might be keeping a bit of an eye on this 1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:15.040 yere network. 1:17:17.920 --> 1:17:23.080 Thank you for joining us here today. Earlier this afternoon, 1:17:23.120 --> 1:17:27.080 Donald Trump was arranged by a Manhattan grand jury on 1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:28.759 thirty four felony counts. 1:17:29.360 --> 1:17:30.640 This case is an abomination. 1:17:30.880 --> 1:17:33.559 You know, it's obviously political. Seven years and try to 1:17:33.560 --> 1:17:36.280 come up with this case. They're just wrong on the law. 1:17:36.640 --> 1:17:39.280 The only crime that Jnald Trump is being prosecuted for 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:41.080 is the crime of running for president. 1:17:41.240 --> 1:17:43.719 Political persecution at the highest level. 1:17:43.880 --> 1:17:46.200 They've quite frankly given up on trying to meeting at 1:17:46.200 --> 1:17:48.160 the polls, either going to steal it or stop it 1:17:48.200 --> 1:17:48.679 by law. 1:17:48.560 --> 1:17:51.840 For a Democrat prosecutor. Let did it on a Get 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:53.120 Trump platform. 1:17:53.240 --> 1:17:57.880 What's going on here is a disgusting disgrace. Hey on, 1:17:58.040 --> 1:18:03.960 that was je that was James Lawd Did you see 1:18:04.000 --> 1:18:07.840 that raising. 1:18:07.640 --> 1:18:09.760 But there was a clip from the US Report with 1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:13.479 James Borrow, which you can walk in on this station 1:18:14.040 --> 1:18:19.760 every Friday night at eight pm. Now, yes, thank you. 1:18:19.880 --> 1:18:23.880 Now let's get to let's get to the fallout from 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:27.400 that verdict in the hush money case out of New York, 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:31.920 which came down again late Thursday afternoon Manhattan time. And 1:18:32.200 --> 1:18:35.679 let's just say, well, if they thought they got in Trump. 1:18:35.760 --> 1:18:39.160 Oh we got him this time. The left has another 1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:43.080 thing coming because the whole case obviously appeared to have 1:18:43.120 --> 1:18:47.880 been deliberately engineered with one aim in mind, getting a 1:18:47.920 --> 1:18:52.080 guilty verdict and hanging that felon tag around Donald Trump's 1:18:52.120 --> 1:18:56.880 neck to hurt his chances in the November election. And 1:18:57.000 --> 1:19:00.759 guess what how is that working out for them? Well, 1:19:00.800 --> 1:19:03.679 it turns out that in the twenty four hours after 1:19:03.760 --> 1:19:10.800 the verdict, the Trump campaign raised nearly fifty three million dollars, 1:19:11.520 --> 1:19:13.760 around a third of that being from donors who were 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:17.360 first time donors to the campaign, suggesting that a lot 1:19:17.439 --> 1:19:21.520 of Americans have woken up to the lawfare being committed 1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:25.320 in their name. And by the way, notice that Trump 1:19:25.320 --> 1:19:28.559 supporters didn't go out and riot when the court case 1:19:28.640 --> 1:19:32.080 didn't go their way, which is what the left normally does. Now, 1:19:32.360 --> 1:19:35.800 this figure fifty three million dollars is more than the 1:19:36.000 --> 1:19:40.120 entire Biden and Democrat campaigns raised in April, a month 1:19:40.240 --> 1:19:44.679 that saw Trump outfund raise the Democrats by nearly twenty 1:19:44.720 --> 1:19:47.439 million dollars. And in a sign of things to come 1:19:48.040 --> 1:19:52.120 with big tech, Google is not making it simple for 1:19:52.200 --> 1:19:55.280 people who want to give to the Trump campaign. If 1:19:55.320 --> 1:19:57.599 you look and you start typing, as I did yesterday, 1:19:57.680 --> 1:20:01.280 the words donate to Trump into Google, well, it'll suggest 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:06.200 ways to donate to trans youth and to replanting and 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:09.920 something called the Russell Trust, which seems to be a 1:20:09.920 --> 1:20:14.320 food bank charity in the UK. Go figure. That's not 1:20:14.360 --> 1:20:16.240 going to stop them, by the way, because reports are 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:18.920 just coming down that the Trump campaign is on track 1:20:18.960 --> 1:20:22.519 to raise one hundred and fifty million dollars by the 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:25.599 time this weekend is out. I'm not sure why though 1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:28.679 big tech would be so scared of Donald Trump anyway, 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:31.559 but there you have it. Anyway, there is also more 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:34.559 fallout to come here because one of the things you 1:20:34.680 --> 1:20:38.400 will have shortly heard from Democrats over the past forty 1:20:38.439 --> 1:20:43.840 eight hours is well, this conviction was secured by following 1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:48.720 the law, and conservatives should not question that because to 1:20:48.800 --> 1:20:53.439 do so is to invite lawlessness. Well, sorry, that's nonsense, 1:20:53.439 --> 1:20:56.719 because of course this is pretty rich from the side 1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:59.840 of politics that every time something doesn't go their way, 1:21:00.240 --> 1:21:03.559 as I say, they hold a riot. But here we are, 1:21:03.760 --> 1:21:07.160 and it is becoming clear that from the start this 1:21:07.439 --> 1:21:11.200 was a stitch up, a classic stitch up. Dirict Attorney 1:21:11.240 --> 1:21:14.840 Alvin Bragg in New York campaign for office on the 1:21:14.920 --> 1:21:18.640 basis that he was going to go after Trump, and 1:21:18.720 --> 1:21:22.280 he used his previous experience suing the Trump organization as 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:26.200 a selling point, a plank of his campaign platform, as 1:21:26.320 --> 1:21:30.040 this interview on local New York radio station Hot ninety 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:33.679 seven three years ago makes clear. 1:21:35.200 --> 1:21:38.160 But one of the things leading into this vote for 1:21:38.320 --> 1:21:41.040 the Manhattan District Attorney's office, I know a lot of 1:21:41.040 --> 1:21:44.360 people are wondering, whoever has this job? 1:21:46.280 --> 1:21:48.280 Are they going to convict Donald Trump? 1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:55.400 Look, that is the number one issue. I'm the candidate 1:21:55.439 --> 1:21:58.080 in the race who has the experience with Donald Trump. 1:21:58.520 --> 1:22:01.160 I was the chief deputy in the Toorney General's office. 1:22:01.439 --> 1:22:05.320 We sued the Trump administration over one hundred times for 1:22:05.439 --> 1:22:08.799 the Muslim travel band, for family separation at the border, 1:22:09.120 --> 1:22:12.840 for shenanigans with the Census, so I know how to 1:22:13.240 --> 1:22:16.000 litigate with him. I also led the team that did 1:22:16.000 --> 1:22:19.280 the Trump Foundation case. So I'm ready to go wherever 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:22.120 the facts take me and to inherit that case. And 1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:24.120 I think, you know, I'd be hard to argue with 1:22:24.120 --> 1:22:26.519 the fact that that'd be the most important, most high 1:22:26.600 --> 1:22:29.280 profile case. And I've seen him up front and seen 1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:30.559 the lawlessness that he can do. 1:22:31.240 --> 1:22:34.960 Yeah, think about that. The number one issue in New 1:22:35.040 --> 1:22:38.160 York for the lead prosecutor, not crime on the street, 1:22:38.400 --> 1:22:42.560 not drugs, not illegal immigration, Donald Trump. But there's a 1:22:42.600 --> 1:22:44.720 lot more to this because not only all of that, 1:22:44.880 --> 1:22:48.680 it can also be revealed that this man, Matthew Colangelo, 1:22:49.000 --> 1:22:52.960 the lead prosecutor and Alvin Bragg's hush money team, is 1:22:53.000 --> 1:22:57.400 a political consultant who has previously been on the payroll 1:22:57.840 --> 1:23:01.760 for the Democrat National Committee. Oh and there's even more. 1:23:01.840 --> 1:23:04.280 The daughter of the judge in the hush money case 1:23:04.600 --> 1:23:08.679 where Donald Trump was just convicted and where he might 1:23:08.760 --> 1:23:13.360 be sentenced to prison just days before the Republican National Convention. Well, 1:23:13.400 --> 1:23:17.320 the daughter she works for a Democrat consulting firm that 1:23:17.439 --> 1:23:22.080 raised ninety million dollars off the case by campaign emails 1:23:22.080 --> 1:23:25.280 and other tactics. Now, if this is all starting to 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:28.320 smell a bit whiffy, well it turns out that even 1:23:28.360 --> 1:23:31.759 people you would normally expect to be on the Get 1:23:31.840 --> 1:23:37.639 Trump bandwagon are starting to have second thoughts. In this piece, 1:23:37.760 --> 1:23:42.280 CNN legal analyst and former state and federal prosecutor Eli 1:23:42.360 --> 1:23:47.120 Honing has offered some startling insights when it comes to 1:23:47.240 --> 1:23:52.600 the way the prosecutors stretched a minor bookkeeping misdemeanor to 1:23:52.720 --> 1:23:56.679 take it much broader and more serious election laws. Honing 1:23:56.720 --> 1:24:00.360 in this article Rights in New York magazine, quote, the 1:24:00.560 --> 1:24:06.519 charges against Trump are obscure and nearly entirely unprecedented. In fact, 1:24:06.880 --> 1:24:09.640 no state prosecutor in New York or Why Oh or 1:24:09.680 --> 1:24:14.439 anywhere has ever charged federal election laws as a direct 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:21.800 or predicate state crime against anyone for anything, none ever, unquote. 1:24:21.880 --> 1:24:25.320 And then Hone goes on to say more. He says, quote, 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:30.960 the charges against Trump aren't just unusual, they're bespoke, seemingly 1:24:31.080 --> 1:24:39.240 crafted individually for the former president and nobody else unquote. Well, sorry, 1:24:39.439 --> 1:24:41.880 that's not the America I grew up in. And all 1:24:41.920 --> 1:24:45.320 of this is why I think, far from being repelled 1:24:45.360 --> 1:24:49.040 by Trump's felony convictions, voters are going to flock to 1:24:49.160 --> 1:24:52.760 the man because they are offended by the sense of 1:24:52.800 --> 1:24:58.080 injustice and how unfair suspicion that in America now anybody 1:24:58.080 --> 1:25:01.679 who the government doesn't like can now be put through 1:25:01.680 --> 1:25:03.400 the ringer by the state. 1:25:08.120 --> 1:25:11.000 Well, let's get the latest news on Donald Trump's guilty 1:25:11.160 --> 1:25:14.920 verdict with President of the Center of the American experiment 1:25:15.040 --> 1:25:17.679 and from the power Line blog John Heindereker. John, always 1:25:17.720 --> 1:25:19.400 great to see you. 1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:20.160 You were sitting up. 1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:23.080 There on the wall on November twenty twenty when I 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:26.720 asked you whether the election had been stolen by the Democrats, 1:25:26.720 --> 1:25:29.679 and you said, well, if it wasn't stolen, it wasn't 1:25:29.680 --> 1:25:33.400 for want of trying on part of the Democrats. Now, 1:25:33.560 --> 1:25:38.240 is this guilty verdict the greatest election interference ploy yet 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:39.240 from the Democrats? 1:25:39.280 --> 1:25:42.360 What's your take on it, John, Well, right. 1:25:42.240 --> 1:25:43.280 It absolutely is. 1:25:43.400 --> 1:25:46.160 I mean, as a matter of law, this prosecution is 1:25:46.200 --> 1:25:49.080 a complete joke. I mean, there are many reasons for that. 1:25:49.160 --> 1:25:51.559 If you want to talk about them, we can. But 1:25:51.640 --> 1:25:54.640 it was never about the law. And whoever said that 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:58.719 this was a prosecution tailored to one man, and one man, oldly, 1:25:59.160 --> 1:26:02.200 Donald Trump, that is exactly correct. No one else has 1:26:02.200 --> 1:26:04.559 ever been charged with anything like this in New York 1:26:04.600 --> 1:26:08.920 State or anywhere else. This was a political prosecution, and 1:26:08.960 --> 1:26:12.720 the whole motive behind it was so that the Democrats 1:26:13.080 --> 1:26:15.080 and the you know, the mainstream press, which is one 1:26:15.160 --> 1:26:18.880 hundred percent controlled by the Democratic Party in America, can 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:23.160 constantly refer to Donald Trump as a convicted felt That 1:26:23.320 --> 1:26:26.000 is what they were trying to achieve Donald Trump the 1:26:26.120 --> 1:26:31.320 convicted felon, and however ridiculous the prosecution may have been, 1:26:31.439 --> 1:26:32.759 they did achieve that goal. 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:38.040 And how did someone like Judge Mershon come to hear 1:26:38.120 --> 1:26:42.519 this case? And I think he was drawn for every 1:26:42.560 --> 1:26:47.800 single Trump case in that Manhattan court, wasn't he. 1:26:49.320 --> 1:26:49.479 Well. 1:26:49.520 --> 1:26:52.400 I know there's been an allegation of corruption in the 1:26:52.479 --> 1:26:56.240 assignment of Judge murshand this case. I don't know the 1:26:56.280 --> 1:26:58.880 facts behind that. You know, every court has got as 1:26:58.920 --> 1:27:02.880 system by which they assigned cases to a particular judge, 1:27:02.920 --> 1:27:05.120 and it's been alleged. I don't know whether it's correct 1:27:05.200 --> 1:27:07.799 or not that there was some corruption involved in assigning 1:27:07.800 --> 1:27:10.920 this case to Judge Mrchon, But be that as it made, 1:27:10.960 --> 1:27:13.560 there's no question about the fact that this guy is 1:27:13.720 --> 1:27:17.960 bitterly hostile to Donald Trump, and he conducted this trial 1:27:18.000 --> 1:27:20.800 in a way that had what objective only, and that 1:27:21.120 --> 1:27:22.799 was to secure a conviction. 1:27:23.880 --> 1:27:28.840 James, two things of I wanted to ask you. First 1:27:28.880 --> 1:27:31.960 of all, tell us explain to us how the instructions 1:27:32.000 --> 1:27:35.920 that were given to the jury basically old but you 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:39.160 know guaranteed that he would be convicted. And I'd love 1:27:39.160 --> 1:27:41.759 it if you could just use your legal crystal bowl 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:45.439 and say, what do you think the sentence is going 1:27:45.479 --> 1:27:49.160 to come down on July eleventh for Trump? Is he 1:27:49.240 --> 1:27:52.080 going to be sentenced to prison and locked up before 1:27:52.080 --> 1:27:54.160 the convention or will they do something to try and 1:27:54.240 --> 1:27:57.280 humiliate him, like, you know, make him do community service, 1:27:57.320 --> 1:27:59.599 put him out on our road crew cleaning up highways. 1:27:59.600 --> 1:28:00.320 What do you think think? 1:28:01.520 --> 1:28:04.360 Well, well, first of all, the instruction's mirror of the trial, right. 1:28:04.400 --> 1:28:09.320 The instructions reflected this incredibly biased and frankly lawless trial 1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:11.559 that Judge Merchant had conducted. 1:28:11.800 --> 1:28:12.559 In many ways. 1:28:12.560 --> 1:28:14.640 One that's been pointed out by a lot of observers 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:17.320 is this the idea that you know, to be convicted 1:28:17.720 --> 1:28:24.160 of this minor bookkeeping error or misrepresentation, it had to 1:28:24.200 --> 1:28:27.080 be in pursuit of another crime. Well, they never wanted 1:28:27.120 --> 1:28:29.760 to say what's the other crime. And at the end 1:28:29.760 --> 1:28:31.720 of the day, Judge Burchand said, well, you know, you 1:28:31.760 --> 1:28:35.080 don't even have to agree on what the other crime is. 1:28:35.320 --> 1:28:37.680 If you think that Trump did something wrong, you know, 1:28:37.760 --> 1:28:39.400 go ahead and find him guilty. I mean, it was 1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:42.800 a ridiculous set of jury instructions. But at this point 1:28:42.800 --> 1:28:45.120 the real question is where do we go from here. 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:48.200 I think that Judge Murchon, he's got a lot of discretion, 1:28:48.360 --> 1:28:51.240 first of all, sentencing. I think he's going to do 1:28:51.280 --> 1:28:55.240 what he thinks will most benefit the Democratic Party in 1:28:55.280 --> 1:28:58.639 the twenty twenty four election. That is the whole reason 1:28:59.000 --> 1:29:02.599 for this prosecution and for this trial. So I'll give 1:29:02.600 --> 1:29:04.600 you my crystal ball. I don't think he's going to 1:29:04.680 --> 1:29:08.720 sentence Donald Trump to jail to prison. I think what 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:11.840 he's going to do is put him under house arrest. Heaven, 1:29:11.880 --> 1:29:15.479 wear an ankle bracelet make him stay. I assume at 1:29:15.479 --> 1:29:18.559 mar Lago, you know, down in Florida, And I think 1:29:18.600 --> 1:29:21.559 what they're trying to achieve there is to prevent Donald 1:29:21.600 --> 1:29:24.640 Trump from going out in campaigning, because he is a 1:29:24.680 --> 1:29:30.000 great campaigner, and Joe Biden is so far gone in sinility. 1:29:29.439 --> 1:29:30.439 He can't do it. 1:29:30.520 --> 1:29:33.360 He can't go out and campaign. So I think one 1:29:33.400 --> 1:29:37.760 of their objectives here is to neutralize Trump's ability to campaign. 1:29:38.160 --> 1:29:41.400 And I'm just guessing, speculating that they might do that 1:29:41.960 --> 1:29:43.880 by sentencing him to house arrest. 1:29:44.280 --> 1:29:47.679 And John what's the broader picture for the American justice system, 1:29:47.760 --> 1:29:50.960 Because seriously, people all around the world are looking at 1:29:50.960 --> 1:29:56.080 this and it's a kangaroo court. In my opinion, what 1:29:56.120 --> 1:30:00.719 does this say about the separation of power is basically 1:30:00.760 --> 1:30:03.520 the separation between the justice system and politics. 1:30:05.000 --> 1:30:06.960 Well, you know, Rowan, I think it's even deeper than that. 1:30:07.080 --> 1:30:09.800 I think America is really starting to come apart at 1:30:09.800 --> 1:30:13.800 the seams. I think we're separating into really two very 1:30:13.840 --> 1:30:16.960 different countries. And I think people around the United States, 1:30:17.040 --> 1:30:20.760 let alone around the world, look at this fiasco that 1:30:20.800 --> 1:30:24.440 they carried out in New York under color of law, 1:30:24.720 --> 1:30:27.840 and I think people ask themselves, look, under the Constitution, 1:30:28.080 --> 1:30:31.000 we have to give full faith and credit to the 1:30:31.120 --> 1:30:34.519 judgments handed down in other states. But what if those 1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:38.640 states are completely corrupt, what if they're motivated by politics 1:30:39.040 --> 1:30:39.960 not by the law. 1:30:40.080 --> 1:30:40.960 What are we going to do? 1:30:41.439 --> 1:30:43.840 I mean, I think we have crossed a line here 1:30:43.840 --> 1:30:47.479 that's never been crossed before in American history. 1:30:48.600 --> 1:30:51.720 John Heindereiker, depressing news. But I fear that you are 1:30:51.760 --> 1:30:55.360 one hundred percent correct. Thanks so much for coming on, Outsiders, 1:30:55.479 --> 1:30:59.960 and we'll speak again soon after the break. Canbrac Clown Show, 1:31:04.240 --> 1:31:06.720 Roll Up, Roll Up. It's the craziest, wackiest Freakis show 1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:10.120 on Earth. It's the Canra Clown Show. Remember everybody's favorite 1:31:10.160 --> 1:31:14.280 e Karen Clown. Our own E Safety Commissar Julie in 1:31:14.400 --> 1:31:17.479 Man Grant, the woman who banned a tweet by a 1:31:17.560 --> 1:31:22.040 breastfeeding advocate, Jasmine Sussex, in which Jasmine said that men 1:31:22.120 --> 1:31:26.360 cannot lactate. Yes, our E Safety Commissar also banned this 1:31:26.520 --> 1:31:29.400 tweet objecting to this clown being sent to the World 1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:33.759 Health Organization by the Australian taxpayer, and our E Safety 1:31:33.760 --> 1:31:37.599 Commissioner also tried but failed to stop the entire world 1:31:37.880 --> 1:31:41.000 from seeing the footage of the knife attack on Bishop 1:31:41.040 --> 1:31:42.240 mart Murray Emmanuel. 1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:45.000 Yes, that's all the handiwork. 1:31:44.479 --> 1:31:48.840 Of our fragrant e Safety Commissioner, Julie in Man Grant. 1:31:50.160 --> 1:31:54.160 We've settled a commentary presenting you personally as some kind 1:31:54.200 --> 1:31:58.320 of or William figure, issuing dictates and determining what people 1:31:58.360 --> 1:32:01.880 can and can say. Do look at Can you just 1:32:02.080 --> 1:32:04.599 step out for us exactly what your role is in 1:32:04.640 --> 1:32:05.320 relation to that. 1:32:06.000 --> 1:32:11.839 What Parliament effectively decided is that where online discourse veers 1:32:11.960 --> 1:32:16.640 into the lean of serious harm, that an independent regulator 1:32:17.840 --> 1:32:23.400 will be designated to investigate, assess in accordance with the thresholds, 1:32:23.760 --> 1:32:27.480 and take a range of remedial actions. 1:32:27.800 --> 1:32:31.920 The key question being, of course, who defines what harm means? 1:32:31.960 --> 1:32:36.320 Missus Julian Mangrant, it would appear and her team. 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:42.759 The Asafety website lists refusing to use a trans person's 1:32:42.800 --> 1:32:46.799 preferred pronouns online or posting a video that dead names 1:32:46.800 --> 1:32:51.600 them as an example of gendered hate, and that deliberately 1:32:51.640 --> 1:32:56.000 misgendering someone online is a form of gendered violence. How 1:32:56.040 --> 1:32:59.320 do you justify these statements in a country where a 1:32:59.400 --> 1:33:02.439 male rape and child's sex offender can be placed in 1:33:02.479 --> 1:33:04.960 a women's prison and access women's facilities. 1:33:06.160 --> 1:33:11.639 I failed to see the connection to that specific incident, Senator, 1:33:12.160 --> 1:33:13.880 Oh my gosh. 1:33:13.280 --> 1:33:14.280 Really, what a joke. 1:33:14.400 --> 1:33:18.880 Only someone thoroughly immersed in woke leftist gender propaganda could 1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:23.800 fail to see the connection between transgender women ie biological 1:33:23.840 --> 1:33:28.759 males being allowed into women's prisons and the E Safety 1:33:28.760 --> 1:33:35.360 Commissioner censoring calling transgender people by their biological sex or 1:33:35.479 --> 1:33:36.120 birth name. 1:33:36.400 --> 1:33:39.120 You would have to be either an. 1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:43.720 Idiot or an LGBT ideologue to be puzzled by that 1:33:43.920 --> 1:33:46.720 sensible question from Senator Claire Chandler. 1:33:46.960 --> 1:33:48.439 So which is it? 1:33:48.840 --> 1:33:50.320 By way of answering. 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:53.799 That, let's ask another question, what was miss grant doing 1:33:54.160 --> 1:33:58.320 before she came to Australia to become our chief Online 1:33:58.479 --> 1:34:00.720 e Commissioner, sens or whatever you want to call it. 1:34:00.800 --> 1:34:04.679 Well we know she worked, among other places, at Twitter 1:34:04.960 --> 1:34:08.000 in the Sydney office before Elon Musk took it over. 1:34:08.200 --> 1:34:10.400 And indeed, according to media reports. 1:34:10.120 --> 1:34:14.880 In twenty twenty two, Quote E Safety Commissioner Julian Mangrant 1:34:15.280 --> 1:34:21.360 shared her concerns with Senator Sarah Hanson Young about Elon 1:34:21.520 --> 1:34:25.879 Musk's recent takeover as owner of the social media platform Twitter. 1:34:26.240 --> 1:34:30.439 The commissioner said Musks planned to take verification a paid 1:34:30.520 --> 1:34:34.960 feature would result in a dog's breakfast. So clearly not 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:38.599 a fan of Elon Musk's Twitter. But what you may 1:34:38.640 --> 1:34:40.240 well ask, was Julie. 1:34:39.840 --> 1:34:42.960 In Mangrant's original goals. 1:34:42.640 --> 1:34:47.479 And plans for herself, her motivation as a youth, her 1:34:47.560 --> 1:34:51.920 dreams and aspirations, Well, it sounds like something out of 1:34:51.920 --> 1:34:57.680 a Jason Bourne movie. Julie wanted to join the CIA, 1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:01.800 America's notorious spying network. 1:35:03.080 --> 1:35:04.840 That you were offered a position as a case agent 1:35:04.840 --> 1:35:09.479 with the CIA, and your self described mission driven. That's true, 1:35:09.520 --> 1:35:11.639 you're offered a role with the CIA. 1:35:12.120 --> 1:35:15.960 I did a number of interviews out of university. One 1:35:16.080 --> 1:35:19.040 was with my hometown congressman on the Hill. Another was 1:35:19.040 --> 1:35:21.960 with the CIA. I took the role with the I 1:35:22.120 --> 1:35:26.120 was an international relations major. I was interested in public service, 1:35:26.160 --> 1:35:28.320 and I took the role with my congressman. 1:35:29.680 --> 1:35:31.799 Hmmmm, that was Julie. 1:35:31.800 --> 1:35:35.120 This week, it is another Senate Estimate's hearing, facing the 1:35:35.160 --> 1:35:37.600 forensic and brilliant Senator Alex And. 1:35:39.520 --> 1:35:47.160 There's actually a very long process, including polygraph tests. You 1:35:47.240 --> 1:35:52.320 have to be a very high moral character and standing. Yeah, 1:35:52.360 --> 1:35:54.360 you're asked about every bad thing you've done in your 1:35:54.360 --> 1:35:57.479 life and you have to take a polygraph test about it. 1:35:57.600 --> 1:36:03.080 Oh wow, Director and standing polygraph tests. 1:36:03.640 --> 1:36:06.440 Yet, for whatever reason, miss. 1:36:06.160 --> 1:36:09.800 In Mangrant or miss In Marnas, she was then decided 1:36:09.840 --> 1:36:13.160 not to pursue her chosen career as an undercover spy 1:36:13.320 --> 1:36:17.000 working for the CIA. Fair enough, she became an ossie 1:36:17.240 --> 1:36:21.240 Internet person instead. Well, sounds a bit like a conspiracy 1:36:21.280 --> 1:36:24.759 theory bubbling away here, at least that's what Julie thinks. 1:36:25.920 --> 1:36:27.439 Is there a conspiracy theory coming? 1:36:27.720 --> 1:36:27.880 No? 1:36:27.880 --> 1:36:30.280 No, no, I'm just wondering whether you don't currently or 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:32.000 you have never worked for the CIA. 1:36:32.280 --> 1:36:34.280 No, I have not, and you do you don't have. 1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:38.360 Any interaction with the intelligence services through your role. 1:36:40.040 --> 1:36:41.599 I do know. 1:36:41.960 --> 1:36:43.439 Once again, that's conspiracy theory. 1:36:43.479 --> 1:36:44.240 That's very hurtful. 1:36:46.800 --> 1:36:49.479 We have a contact with a number of Australian government 1:36:49.560 --> 1:36:53.120 agencies in a way that's appropriate to the role. 1:36:53.120 --> 1:36:55.639 Functions and powers of the Safety Commissioner, but you. 1:36:55.600 --> 1:37:00.240 Have no contractual relationship with any of them. Now hold 1:37:00.240 --> 1:37:01.040 you a citizenship. 1:37:02.160 --> 1:37:05.519 I hold Australian citizenship first, and yes I still hold 1:37:05.560 --> 1:37:09.800 my US passwort and I represent the Australian people. 1:37:09.479 --> 1:37:10.040 In this rule. 1:37:10.080 --> 1:37:12.400 As easy to be defensive about it. It's just that 1:37:12.760 --> 1:37:13.479 it's just a question. 1:37:15.360 --> 1:37:16.840 So justin me, crystal clear. 1:37:16.960 --> 1:37:20.680 Julie Inman Grant wanted to work for the CIA, America's 1:37:20.760 --> 1:37:24.519 highly secretive global spy network, went through a lengthy and 1:37:24.600 --> 1:37:28.720 laborious process to join the CIA, then abruptly decided not 1:37:29.040 --> 1:37:32.320 to join the CIA because, in her own words, joining 1:37:32.320 --> 1:37:35.759 the CIA would have meant quote, I wouldn't be able 1:37:35.800 --> 1:37:37.200 to tell my friends and. 1:37:37.240 --> 1:37:39.160 Family what I was doing. 1:37:40.960 --> 1:37:43.920 She then worked in Washington, then worked for Microsoft and 1:37:43.920 --> 1:37:46.640 moved to Australia, then became director of public Policy at 1:37:46.680 --> 1:37:51.439 Twitter in Australia and Southeast Asia. Pre Elon Musk before 1:37:51.560 --> 1:37:56.120 being appointed as Australia's E Safety Commissioner in twenty sixteen 1:37:56.400 --> 1:37:59.360 by none other than Malcolm Turnbull. 1:38:01.360 --> 1:38:02.040 Well, good morning. 1:38:02.120 --> 1:38:06.520 I'm here with Julie Mongrand, who is the E Safety Commissioner, 1:38:07.600 --> 1:38:11.439 and Julie is heading up our federal government's effort to 1:38:11.600 --> 1:38:17.720 make the Internet a safer place for everybody online, but 1:38:17.840 --> 1:38:19.400 of course especially children. 1:38:20.640 --> 1:38:22.679 Of course that all sounds very grand. 1:38:22.760 --> 1:38:26.800 But what banning women saying that men cannot lactate, or 1:38:26.880 --> 1:38:30.479 banning criticism of transgender man being appoint of the World 1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:33.760 Health Organization, or banning the viewing of the stabbing of 1:38:33.800 --> 1:38:36.280 the bishop has to do with making the Internet a 1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:38.000 safer place for children? 1:38:38.720 --> 1:38:39.240 Beats me? 1:38:40.400 --> 1:38:44.519 Mission creep perhaps to use a favorite Jason Bourne saying, 1:38:45.000 --> 1:38:48.960 But yes, our E Safety Commissioner, our government so called 1:38:49.160 --> 1:38:53.440 censor online, person who once wanted to join the CIA, 1:38:54.000 --> 1:38:57.200 was appointed by the one and only Malcolm bly Turnbull, 1:38:57.520 --> 1:39:00.599 the man who rose to fame back in the nineteen 1:39:00.640 --> 1:39:05.759 eighties by fighting against government imposed censorship of a naughty 1:39:05.920 --> 1:39:10.760 tell all book called SpyCatcher. You can't make this stuff up. 1:39:11.240 --> 1:39:13.760 What I wonder would Carlie Simon have made of all 1:39:13.760 --> 1:39:13.960 of this? 1:39:19.760 --> 1:39:31.400 Sad secret said, well, Canada's gone full hyperbol full extreme exaggeration. 1:39:31.560 --> 1:39:34.080 Have a listen to this MP in the Canadian Parliament 1:39:34.120 --> 1:39:35.600 on climate change. 1:39:37.240 --> 1:39:40.639 Good news, kids, you can take a summer fun time 1:39:40.720 --> 1:39:45.280 vacation where you're locked in a car for ten consecutive days, NonStop, 1:39:45.320 --> 1:39:48.200 with no bathroom breaks. And the Conservatives have a plan 1:39:48.280 --> 1:39:50.280 for you to have that summertime fund and the cost 1:39:50.840 --> 1:39:52.240 give up the future of. 1:39:52.240 --> 1:39:53.800 The planet, right. 1:39:53.760 --> 1:39:56.400 Don't worry Kurds about climate change. 1:39:56.560 --> 1:40:00.400 Don't worry about taking action on the planet. Enjoy We are. 1:40:00.240 --> 1:40:03.040 Ten hours in the car and what the planet burn? 1:40:04.280 --> 1:40:07.080 What insane James are you're just saying that, Well, you 1:40:07.080 --> 1:40:09.639 cannot have a road trip anymore because of the no 1:40:09.840 --> 1:40:11.479 sorry go on, men who wear. 1:40:11.320 --> 1:40:16.439 Bow ties when it's not a black tie event. Red flags, 1:40:16.680 --> 1:40:17.720 red flags straightaway. 1:40:17.880 --> 1:40:20.360 Well, let's also look at Pierre Poliev, who we love 1:40:20.360 --> 1:40:21.240 in the Canadian Palment. 1:40:21.240 --> 1:40:22.719 Hopefully he'll be the next Prime minister. 1:40:22.800 --> 1:40:27.160 Here he is responding to Justin Trudeau's ridiculous comments in parliament. 1:40:27.560 --> 1:40:28.120 Have listened. 1:40:29.120 --> 1:40:32.400 We're leveraging transit funding to build more homes. We're launching 1:40:32.400 --> 1:40:36.160 a housing design catalog. He's announcing a catalog. 1:40:44.640 --> 1:40:46.120 At a home. 1:40:46.880 --> 1:40:47.760 You might end up in. 1:40:47.800 --> 1:40:50.360 A tent, your rent is double, but hey you've got 1:40:50.360 --> 1:40:51.960 a brand new catalog. 1:40:53.120 --> 1:40:53.640 Fantastic. 1:40:54.160 --> 1:40:57.600 There's a great lesson here for conservatives in Australia everywhere. 1:40:57.920 --> 1:41:05.560 Have fun exactly, fuse use humor the left hand mockery. 1:41:05.840 --> 1:41:09.519 Mockery is such a powerful weapon, particularly against the left 1:41:09.680 --> 1:41:13.320 or so self righteous and humorless. You mock them and 1:41:13.360 --> 1:41:16.840 their craziness. It drives them insight and you get the 1:41:16.840 --> 1:41:17.800 point across. 1:41:18.040 --> 1:41:20.120 We get the point of joke. Every joke is a 1:41:20.120 --> 1:41:21.559 tiny revolution or well said it. 1:41:21.760 --> 1:41:26.080 Absolutely, humor is such a great weapon. Libs Coalition, use it, 1:41:26.160 --> 1:41:28.479 one nation, do brilliantly, go for it. 1:41:28.680 --> 1:41:29.320 Use humor. 1:41:29.600 --> 1:41:33.280 Got to bring these humorless leftists out and replace them with. 1:41:34.960 --> 1:41:39.280 A government that actually can be efficient. Just saying that's it. 1:41:39.320 --> 1:41:41.559 We'll see you next week at nine am or here 1:41:41.600 --> 1:41:42.880 on Outsiders