WEBVTT - I will need a loan to buy the uniform!

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<v Speaker 1>Apo Shape Production.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Am I A Bad Mom? Podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I A Bad Mum?

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<v Speaker 2>Last week? Last week of school.

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<v Speaker 3>For you finally, although I feel like there's a very

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<v Speaker 3>few parents that are in the same public system that

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<v Speaker 3>are going, how are we still doing? Like another week

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<v Speaker 3>of school? I've got one child that wants to go

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<v Speaker 3>to school, and I've got one child that does not

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<v Speaker 3>want to go to school. Also, it came to me

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<v Speaker 3>this morning, she goes, I think I'm done for the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, see, the thing is you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week with the graduation everything wrapped up.

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<v Speaker 2>It was huge with Gracie graduating, was that her last.

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<v Speaker 3>Day last week, Thursday morning was like the final assembly

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<v Speaker 3>for the whole school, the announcement of the new captains,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the big send off with the what's it

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<v Speaker 3>called coat of arms where you like, all do the

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<v Speaker 3>they run through the arms of everyone all the way

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<v Speaker 3>through the whole entire school.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did that all on Thursday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you cry?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't cry. I still haven't cried.

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<v Speaker 3>I took her for a uniform fitting for the new

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<v Speaker 3>school and I still haven't cried.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what's wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 2>So she's not at school today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's going to school today as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But that makes no sense. Yeah, so they do the

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<v Speaker 2>whole big send off. Yeah, okay, great, see Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>What Gracie being Gracey? Yeah, I want to go to school,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to hang out with my friends. Because she

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<v Speaker 3>knows that she's just going to basically excuse my French

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<v Speaker 3>fuck around for the whole week.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not going to be doing anything. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>week just to hang out with your friends. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's also a week of free childcare.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. I mean I saw people dropping off

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<v Speaker 1>so early.

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<v Speaker 3>This morning at and you're thinking, God, you're really trying

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<v Speaker 3>to rake in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Last seconds of this childcare.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're really trying to squeeze every bit out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor kids. Am I a bad mum for really just

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<v Speaker 1>not caring?

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<v Speaker 3>I think this adds to why I'm feeling like, really

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<v Speaker 3>non emotional about, I know, the whole year.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I think it is? Because I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're being faced with quite a bit of attitude

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment and pushback. So I think when kids

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<v Speaker 2>are assholes, you lose the emotion. Yes, it's an emotional

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<v Speaker 2>thing finishing primary school. But if she's being an asshole,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to feel sad about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not sad about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to admit, like last week, probably when I

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<v Speaker 3>got to Sunday of the week, I got to Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>and I felt like I had been on probably like

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<v Speaker 3>a three week bender. I sort of just got to

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday and my whole world sort of like imploded and

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<v Speaker 3>sort of I just collapsed and was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>We made it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's just been such a big finish to the year.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we say this on a podcast every year,

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<v Speaker 3>the last few weeks is insane. This year has been

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<v Speaker 3>double that because we've had graduation, we've had final assemblies,

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<v Speaker 3>we've had everything you can think of, all in the

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<v Speaker 3>last week, Christmas Caroline Dancers. Still, we've had all of

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<v Speaker 3>the goods thrown into this last week. On top of that,

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<v Speaker 3>uniform fittings and just like the constant thing. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think I've got to the point where I might have

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<v Speaker 3>emptied my bucket so much that now I'm just at

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<v Speaker 3>the other part of like it's the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I have got no fucks to give.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, did you go on a three week bender?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I should have. I think I would have handled

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<v Speaker 3>it a bit better. I got to that point and

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<v Speaker 3>I was sort of questioned, you know. We left the

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<v Speaker 3>uniform fitting and Sam messaged me and goes, how did

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<v Speaker 3>you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get all emotional?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you say? Well, the bank's empty.

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<v Speaker 3>I just like wrote back and was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's wrong with me. No, I didn't cry. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't find it emotional at all. We got in, we

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<v Speaker 3>did it, We argued, and we left.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the thing. If it wasn't arguing, Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>it was all like sweetness and light and you know, lovely,

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<v Speaker 2>you might have been like, oh, look at her.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Yeah, I didn't feel any of that, Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>We argued about like the uniform, because clearly I designed

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<v Speaker 3>the uniform or in the school, so it was my fault.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other thing was we stood at the

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<v Speaker 3>front counter and the lady brought out the school bag,

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<v Speaker 3>the school's school bag, yep, and she's like, it's got laptop,

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<v Speaker 3>this and da da da, and this is how we

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<v Speaker 3>end it's got a warranty of the whole time that

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<v Speaker 3>they're at school.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>She stood, they're facing the lady. And also we went

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<v Speaker 3>with like one of her friends and her mum, and

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<v Speaker 3>so in front of all of us, and she stood

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<v Speaker 3>there and she goes, absolutely not, I am not wearing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing a Nike bag that I'm getting for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked around. I was like, sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>She goes, I'm not wearing that. She said, I'll wear

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<v Speaker 3>the Nike one that I'm getting for Christmas. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's weird because you won't be coming here.

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<v Speaker 1>She just looked at me.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you're not going to go to the school

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't wear the school bag. The whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>is like the principle of this, which is we're paying

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<v Speaker 3>all of this money for all of these uniforms.

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<v Speaker 1>Just use the school bag. Yeah, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>And keep your Nike bag for weekends and school activities

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<v Speaker 3>and when you need it for your uniforms for like

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<v Speaker 3>the sports days and all of that stuff. Because on

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<v Speaker 3>top of this, I've also got to organize her a

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<v Speaker 3>dance bag to take to school because she's in the

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<v Speaker 3>dance program, which is another whole uniform. Yeah, mate, you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have enough bags. It doesn't matter which bag it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me, I was like, no, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>principle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So my girls argued about the school bag too, and

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<v Speaker 2>so at their school it is compulsory they have to

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<v Speaker 2>have the school bag. So there's a bag that they

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<v Speaker 2>have to take to school, and then there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>satchel which they have to use during the school day

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<v Speaker 2>to carry their books and stuff from class. So the

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<v Speaker 2>idea is they take their big bag to school, they

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<v Speaker 2>put it in their locker, and then they take out

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<v Speaker 2>their satchel and then they just put like what they

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<v Speaker 2>need for the first couple of periods, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the locker and they swap them over

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<v Speaker 2>and all the rest of it. Now, the girls refused

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<v Speaker 2>to get this satchel. Absolutely, no one uses it. It's ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Like just had a real problem with it. I'm fine,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine, I'm not going to carry a body. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred dollars each, it's going to be really inconvenient

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<v Speaker 2>you have to carry. They did. They had to carry

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<v Speaker 2>their books to each period in their arms because they

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<v Speaker 2>were so adamant that they weren't going to use this satchel?

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<v Speaker 1>How long is it still?

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<v Speaker 2>To this day, I have not bought that satchel. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>carrying it in their hands must be really fucking annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>But that social suicide. I'm like, really social suicide, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, if Gracie even thought to say that, it probably

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<v Speaker 3>would have come out of her mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like the full pushback.

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<v Speaker 3>An argument delivered from her after You've just stood there

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<v Speaker 3>and nearly for X amount of dollars worth of uniforms

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<v Speaker 3>and then still stands there and does that, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, mate.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a conversation with the uniform lady because the

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<v Speaker 2>girls needed new uniforms this year, and I knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be a battle because no, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want the dress that length. It needs to be shorter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well know, it needs to be what the school allows.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I got the lady on side first. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get some pushback here. Can you please

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<v Speaker 2>be the one that says you know what? So, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't want to be the back guy

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, like the argument is always going to

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<v Speaker 2>be with me, So I'm like, can you just step

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<v Speaker 2>up and tell me what the rules are and there

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<v Speaker 2>will have to just go by that.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was pushback on the length of the dress,

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<v Speaker 2>and the lady stood there. She went, no, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>It needs to be there. That's the rules, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to be. And I could just see the

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<v Speaker 2>girls like hating his but not saying anything. They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>going to be rude to her. They are only going

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<v Speaker 2>to be rude to me the length of the dress.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they wear like bike pants underneath, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it was the length of those and they put them

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<v Speaker 2>on and they like laughed, like thinking, there is no

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<v Speaker 2>way we're wearing them like this. So they pulled them

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<v Speaker 2>right up like so they made them really short, and

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<v Speaker 2>the lady walked over and yanked them down. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I went, no, that's how they need to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were just like they're like, oh no, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not wearing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Gracie genuinely got in the change room and the skirt

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<v Speaker 3>is like just past knees and given they're grade seven, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you got so much growing to do. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, she was like, oh, that's fine because I

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<v Speaker 3>know exactly what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You just roll it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've all rolled our skits.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter. I was like, not even worried about my

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<v Speaker 1>skirt length.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Rach wearing my school shoes to school, the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that I was allowed to wear, and taking platforms,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, in my back and changing them at.

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<v Speaker 1>School at school. Yeah, how come we weren't getting pulled

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<v Speaker 1>up at school?

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<v Speaker 3>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was where I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably was.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, must have spent some time in detention.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, principle screaming at me from down the corridor. Katie Matten,

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<v Speaker 2>get into that and wash that makeup off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so straightforward as a kid. I have to

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<v Speaker 3>like say though, it was pretty funny. And Grace's little

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<v Speaker 3>friend Ev she goes, what am I supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 3>When I'm on the oval and I want to do

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<v Speaker 3>a cartwheel? People are just going to see my nickers, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>out of everything going through your head right now? That

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<v Speaker 3>is all that matters When I do a cartwheel during

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<v Speaker 3>lunch break?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going to happen? I was like, I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>her and said, baby, just put on bike pants. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she's like walking off.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my gosh, it's hilarious where their

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<v Speaker 3>little brains go. Yeah, cartwheels at lunchtime.

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<v Speaker 2>So how much did it set you back a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money for all this uniform? It's like hundreds, Yeah, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven before Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>Why I bought the school shoes so big that first

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<v Speaker 2>year they lasted free, didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Even that's not even with the shoes, that's not even

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<v Speaker 3>with the book pack.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly, I actually am just.

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<v Speaker 2>Do what I suggested with the shoes, by the massive,

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<v Speaker 2>big clown shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what shoes I've got to get

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<v Speaker 3>her actually, now that we start, just big ones, big

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<v Speaker 3>floppy