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Speaker 1: Apo Shape Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Am I A Bad Mom? Podcast?

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Speaker 1: Am I A Bad Mum?

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Speaker 2: Last week? Last week of school.

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Speaker 3: For you finally, although I feel like there's a very

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Speaker 3: few parents that are in the same public system that

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Speaker 3: are going, how are we still doing? Like another week

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Speaker 3: of school? I've got one child that wants to go

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Speaker 3: to school, and I've got one child that does not

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Speaker 3: want to go to school. Also, it came to me

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Speaker 3: this morning, she goes, I think I'm done for the year.

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, see, the thing is you're not.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Katie.

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Speaker 3: Last week with the graduation everything wrapped up.

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Speaker 2: It was huge with Gracie graduating, was that her last.

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Speaker 3: Day last week, Thursday morning was like the final assembly

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Speaker 3: for the whole school, the announcement of the new captains,

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Speaker 3: and then the big send off with the what's it

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Speaker 3: called coat of arms where you like, all do the

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Speaker 3: they run through the arms of everyone all the way

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Speaker 3: through the whole entire school.

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Speaker 1: And they did that all on Thursday morning.

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Speaker 2: Did you cry?

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Speaker 1: I didn't cry. I still haven't cried.

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Speaker 3: I took her for a uniform fitting for the new

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Speaker 3: school and I still haven't cried.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's wrong with me?

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Speaker 2: So she's not at school today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's going to school today as well.

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Speaker 2: But that makes no sense. Yeah, so they do the

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Speaker 2: whole big send off. Yeah, okay, great, see Monday.

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Speaker 3: What Gracie being Gracey? Yeah, I want to go to school,

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Speaker 3: I want to hang out with my friends. Because she

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Speaker 3: knows that she's just going to basically excuse my French

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Speaker 3: fuck around for the whole week.

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Speaker 1: She's not going to be doing anything. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: week just to hang out with your friends. Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also a week of free childcare.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean I saw people dropping off

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Speaker 1: so early.

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Speaker 3: This morning at and you're thinking, God, you're really trying

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Speaker 3: to rake in the.

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Speaker 1: Last seconds of this childcare.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're really trying to squeeze every bit out of it.

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Speaker 1: Poor kids. Am I a bad mum for really just

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Speaker 1: not caring?

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Speaker 3: I think this adds to why I'm feeling like, really

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Speaker 3: non emotional about, I know, the whole year.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I think it is? Because I

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Speaker 2: think you're being faced with quite a bit of attitude

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Speaker 2: at the moment and pushback. So I think when kids

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Speaker 2: are assholes, you lose the emotion. Yes, it's an emotional

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Speaker 2: thing finishing primary school. But if she's being an asshole,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to feel sad about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not sad about it.

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Speaker 3: I have to admit, like last week, probably when I

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Speaker 3: got to Sunday of the week, I got to Sunday

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Speaker 3: and I felt like I had been on probably like

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Speaker 3: a three week bender. I sort of just got to

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Speaker 3: Sunday and my whole world sort of like imploded and

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Speaker 3: sort of I just collapsed and was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: thank god.

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Speaker 1: We made it.

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Speaker 3: Because it's just been such a big finish to the year.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we say this on a podcast every year,

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Speaker 3: the last few weeks is insane. This year has been

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Speaker 3: double that because we've had graduation, we've had final assemblies,

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Speaker 3: we've had everything you can think of, all in the

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Speaker 3: last week, Christmas Caroline Dancers. Still, we've had all of

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Speaker 3: the goods thrown into this last week. On top of that,

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Speaker 3: uniform fittings and just like the constant thing. But I

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Speaker 3: think I've got to the point where I might have

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Speaker 3: emptied my bucket so much that now I'm just at

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Speaker 3: the other part of like it's the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: I have got no fucks to give.

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Speaker 2: Now, did you go on a three week bender?

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Speaker 3: No, I should have. I think I would have handled

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Speaker 3: it a bit better. I got to that point and

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Speaker 3: I was sort of questioned, you know. We left the

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Speaker 1: Did you get all emotional?

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Speaker 2: What did you say? Well, the bank's empty.

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Speaker 3: I just like wrote back and was like, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what's wrong with me. No, I didn't cry. I

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Speaker 3: didn't find it emotional at all. We got in, we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. If it wasn't arguing, Like, if

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Speaker 2: it was all like sweetness and light and you know, lovely,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, I didn't feel any of that, Katie.

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Speaker 3: We argued about like the uniform, because clearly I designed

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Speaker 3: the uniform or in the school, so it was my fault.

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Speaker 3: And then the other thing was we stood at the

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Speaker 3: front counter and the lady brought out the school bag,

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Speaker 3: the school's school bag, yep, and she's like, it's got laptop,

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Speaker 3: this and da da da, and this is how we

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Speaker 3: end it's got a warranty of the whole time that

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good, that's great.

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Speaker 3: She stood, they're facing the lady. And also we went

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Speaker 3: so in front of all of us, and she stood

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Speaker 3: there and she goes, absolutely not, I am not wearing that.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing a Nike bag that I'm getting for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I looked around. I was like, sorry.

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Speaker 3: She goes, I'm not wearing that. She said, I'll wear

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Speaker 3: the Nike one that I'm getting for Christmas. I said, well,

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Speaker 3: that's weird because you won't be coming here.

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Speaker 1: She just looked at me.

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Speaker 3: I said, you're not going to go to the school

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Speaker 3: if you don't wear the school bag. The whole thing

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Speaker 3: is like the principle of this, which is we're paying

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Speaker 3: all of this money for all of these uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Just use the school bag. Yeah, it's not going to

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Speaker 1: make a difference.

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Speaker 3: And keep your Nike bag for weekends and school activities

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Speaker 3: and when you need it for your uniforms for like

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Speaker 3: the sports days and all of that stuff. Because on

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Speaker 3: top of this, I've also got to organize her a

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Speaker 3: dance program, which is another whole uniform. Yeah, mate, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna have enough bags. It doesn't matter which bag it is.

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Speaker 3: But for me, I was like, no, this is the

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Speaker 2: So my girls argued about the school bag too, and

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Speaker 2: so at their school it is compulsory they have to

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Speaker 2: have to take to school, and then there's like a

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Speaker 2: idea is they take their big bag to school, they

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Speaker 2: put it in their locker, and then they take out

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Speaker 2: their satchel and then they just put like what they

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Speaker 2: and all the rest of it. Now, the girls refused

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Speaker 2: to get this satchel. Absolutely, no one uses it. It's ugly.

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Speaker 2: Like just had a real problem with it. I'm fine,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, I'm not going to carry a body. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: one hundred dollars each, it's going to be really inconvenient

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Speaker 2: you have to carry. They did. They had to carry

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Speaker 2: were so adamant that they weren't going to use this satchel?

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Speaker 1: How long is it still?

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Speaker 2: To this day, I have not bought that satchel. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: carrying it in their hands must be really fucking annoying.

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Speaker 2: But that social suicide. I'm like, really social suicide, that's

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Speaker 2: what they tell me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, if Gracie even thought to say that, it probably

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Speaker 1: But it was like the full pushback.

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Speaker 3: An argument delivered from her after You've just stood there

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Speaker 1: I go, mate.

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Speaker 2: I had a conversation with the uniform lady because the

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Speaker 2: was going to be a battle because no, we don't

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Speaker 2: Well know, it needs to be what the school allows.

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Speaker 2: And so I got the lady on side first. I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get some pushback here. Can you please

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Speaker 2: be the one that says you know what? So, because

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to be the back guy

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 2: So there was pushback on the length of the dress,

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Speaker 2: and the lady stood there. She went, no, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: It needs to be there. That's the rules, that's where

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Speaker 2: And then they wear like bike pants underneath, and so

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Speaker 2: I went, no, that's how they need to be.

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Speaker 1: And they were just like they're like, oh no, we're

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Speaker 3: Gracie genuinely got in the change room and the skirt

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Speaker 3: is like just past knees and given they're grade seven, like,

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Speaker 3: you got so much growing to do. But at the

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Speaker 1: You just roll it up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've all rolled our skits.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. I was like, not even worried about my

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Speaker 2: I remember Rach wearing my school shoes to school, the

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Speaker 2: ones that I was allowed to wear, and taking platforms,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, in my back and changing them at.

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Speaker 1: School at school. Yeah, how come we weren't getting pulled

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Speaker 1: up at school?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 1: I thought that was where I was.

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Speaker 2: I probably was.

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Speaker 1: I remember, must have spent some time in detention.

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Speaker 2: Yes, principle screaming at me from down the corridor. Katie Matten,

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Speaker 2: get into that and wash that makeup off.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: I was so straightforward as a kid. I have to

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Speaker 3: like say though, it was pretty funny. And Grace's little

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Speaker 3: friend Ev she goes, what am I supposed to do?

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Speaker 3: When I'm on the oval and I want to do

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Speaker 3: a cartwheel? People are just going to see my nickers, Like,

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Speaker 3: out of everything going through your head right now? That

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Speaker 3: is all that matters When I do a cartwheel during

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Speaker 1: What's going to happen? I was like, I looked at

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Speaker 1: her and said, baby, just put on bike pants. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: Oh she's like walking off.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, it's hilarious where their

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Speaker 3: little brains go. Yeah, cartwheels at lunchtime.

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Speaker 2: So how much did it set you back a lot

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Speaker 2: of money for all this uniform? It's like hundreds, Yeah, seven,

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Speaker 2: it's so expensive.

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Speaker 1: Seven before Christmas?

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Speaker 2: Why I bought the school shoes so big that first

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Speaker 2: year they lasted free, didn't.

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Speaker 3: Even that's not even with the shoes, that's not even

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Speaker 3: with the book pack.

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Speaker 1: Clearly, I actually am just.

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Speaker 2: Do what I suggested with the shoes, by the massive,

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Speaker 2: big clown shoes.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what shoes I've got to get

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Speaker 3: her actually, now that we start, just big ones, big

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Speaker 3: floppy