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Speaker 1: Apogee Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the

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Speaker 2: Muscle Commons and in this episode I speak to Hailey Sommers,

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Speaker 2: who talks about her journey from stripping to high profile escorts.

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Speaker 3: What did you want to be when you grew up dancer?

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Speaker 3: Ironically we went the other way over, you know. One

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Speaker 3: of the managers said to me, man, you talk about

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Speaker 3: working here. You make good money here, and I was like, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 3: there are a lot of men out there who want

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Speaker 3: to be paid a lot more than you think. Windo

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Speaker 3: has X He's been HI four years. I just get

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Speaker 3: paid to use my stiletto on his book. I made

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Speaker 3: the decision to come out publicly last year because I thought,

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Speaker 3: if I own my ship, then you can't stand it

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 1: Hailey, thank you for coming on the podcast. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me. It's a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: And as I said when I reached out to you,

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Speaker 2: and you do is something about you to have a story,

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Speaker 2: and that's why I've invited you down and I'm glad

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Speaker 2: you're here, and I'm now intrigued to hear what you

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Speaker 2: have to offer me on my podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's a good thing or not really much.

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Speaker 1: People might be.

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Speaker 2: Worried abright now, So let's let's kick it off before

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Speaker 2: we get into all the nitty gritty and the interesting.

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Speaker 1: Stuff of your life. Well, growing up, you're from.

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Speaker 3: Gold Coast, Yes, yeah, so I've lived in most of

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Speaker 3: my life eighteen months old. Yeah, gold Coast girls throwing

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Speaker 3: through typical Gold Coast girls, for to speak, were about

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Speaker 3: some Gold Coast so don't come and that way.

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Speaker 1: So what was like growing up?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Family wise and brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 3: Look, I had a pretty lucky life in a way.

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Speaker 3: My parents were Okay, I went to Palm Beach from

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Speaker 3: high school. I went to like the dance program there.

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Speaker 3: You know that they had Mick Fanning and everyone I

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Speaker 3: was in their year and all that. So I grew

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Speaker 3: up with that kind of aspiration with my parents expected

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Speaker 3: me to do that. Younger sister and older brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so life was pretty normal.

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Speaker 2: Looking at you, now, you stand out, Okay, you stand out. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you'd make an appearance.

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Speaker 1: Let's look, I'm trying.

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Speaker 2: But did you were you very.

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Speaker 1: Stand up in confidence it as a girl like in school?

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Speaker 3: Oh god no, I think that's the whole point of this,

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Speaker 3: probably whole thing in a way is Evan's Revarda and stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: bake it to make it love that saying Actually I

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Speaker 3: was a dancer, so I was brought up to be

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Speaker 3: a dancer, and so I always had that stage presence

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Speaker 3: and sports of Roobis competed for Australia and that was

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Speaker 1: I loved performing.

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Speaker 2: So what did you want to be when you grew dancer?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I want to actually do professional dancing. Wow,

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Speaker 3: ironically we went the other way of it, you know, someway.

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Speaker 1: So from what I've gather, you started stripping in Gold

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Speaker 1: Coast Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at Players Nightclub. I know right that the old

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Speaker 3: school players.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how old were you then? Eighteen? So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: didn't wait long.

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Speaker 2: Its like birthday came out.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I think I was the second girl that have bake

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Speaker 3: I was dancing in Brisbane as a dance in a

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Speaker 3: not knowing what you're doing these days the bat there's

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Speaker 1: Can see everything was going on you keep it on

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Speaker 3: I was trying to. Yeah, I was hiding my outfit

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Speaker 4: Everyone because is a small place.

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Speaker 3: Back in those days, it was taboo in a way.

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Speaker 3: It was so it wasn't as normalized it is as

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Speaker 3: so to speak. And that's where I went into Japan.

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Speaker 3: I went to Japan as a nanny. When I actually

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Speaker 2: You tell everyone you goes to be a nanny.

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Speaker 3: I told my parents and then they found out. So

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Speaker 3: you went to Japan and was a stripper and hostess

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Speaker 3: there for six months. And it was pretty evident that

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Speaker 1: Why did you go there for? Was the money better

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Speaker 3: It was so back that was back in the day

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Speaker 3: Lots of overseas bankers and so forth with there, not

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Speaker 3: you know what was exciting. I kind of liked the

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Speaker 3: idea of double life in a way that no one

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Speaker 3: I fully went fully.

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Speaker 2: Send me back to players before you what made you

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Speaker 2: become a stripper?

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Speaker 1: What engaged you to go? You know what I'm going

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Speaker 3: I thinks I've always done performing with the dancing and

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Speaker 3: probably like challenge path on its own in a way

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Speaker 3: whereas stripping and so forth at money, but a bit

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Speaker 3: of validation, you know, ironically it's a good and bad

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Speaker 3: But also then obviously I fell in love of the money.

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Speaker 2: That's maybe that's what a lot of girls have told

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Speaker 2: me over interviews that you know, it's it's not something

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do, But the thing is, once you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's in it is definitely enticely and you

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Speaker 3: know it's not a one mold fits everything anyway. I

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Speaker 3: you know, and players up the glorkas was no touching

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Speaker 2: When you wanted that someone would might see you or

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Speaker 2: know you like you could I.

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Speaker 3: End up dating one of security guards.

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Speaker 2: God, it's all running from them my love like oppress me,

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Speaker 2: or you date the security guards.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think that in itself is the probably podcast on itself.

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Speaker 1: So tell me about your first night there.

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Speaker 3: I walked out twice, so I went with three times

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Speaker 3: to go there because I was so nervous.

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Speaker 1: So you didn't turn off your shift, you just walked out.

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Speaker 2: I walked out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first two times I walked out, and then

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Speaker 3: the third time I was like, give it a go.

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Speaker 3: I danced this man, he must have been fifty or sixty,

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Speaker 2: Got to do? Like to do something like that close

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Speaker 2: but it's to give that thing of taking your clothes

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Speaker 3: Yes, So I think when I first started, it was

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Speaker 3: a remarix like that. I would have a routine down

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Speaker 3: that mode of switching off. As I've got older, now

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So how long did you work a place for?

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Speaker 3: So I was there three or four years, and so

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Speaker 3: that Melbourne that for the money was if I trotted.

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Speaker 1: To me, then was up before you went overseas.

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Speaker 3: So no, I went to So I went to Japan

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Speaker 3: I love this story. So I was in Japan first,

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Speaker 3: And the money there was so good. But because these

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Speaker 3: social media. So the paper followed me around for a week.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the Hong Kong sevens. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I ended up going to Hong Kong sevens one night.

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Speaker 3: Was always told you you're young and silly, you get

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Speaker 3: I got on the bar at the Aussie bar in

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Speaker 3: a green mikini, fake boobs the song you know that song,

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Speaker 3: Hey Mumbo song.

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Speaker 3: I end up on the news right, so I'm in

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Speaker 3: a lot of troup already, and then the next seven

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Speaker 3: And so then iut knock on the door and there

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Speaker 3: was media there and I was in like four pages

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Speaker 3: of the newspaper, got it scored to Therefore God, yes,

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Speaker 3: I asked leave, was getting talked to. I haven't been

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Speaker 1: So then so then after that you went for Melbourne. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why were you just over Gold Coast? You know

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Speaker 1: what it was?

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Speaker 3: I think as you're older, Melbourne was exciting. It was

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Speaker 3: so it kind of gave me a reinvention to go again.

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Speaker 1: That man is, so where did you go in Melbourne?

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Speaker 1: Where did you stop? At Men's Gallery?

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Speaker 3: On it's easy to think this is all triven so

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Speaker 2: You think with the and will that a lot of

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Speaker 3: It's like that want to be by like a girl

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Speaker 3: Men's Gallery till nine am sometimes just what time you start?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, longer fourteens And I literally what why so long?

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Speaker 3: And that's back a long time ago as well. So

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Speaker 1: Is it desperate times when you're noting that money.

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Speaker 3: So with that, definitely, I definitely feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: What's the worst you've ever made money? Oh? Nothing? So

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Speaker 1: Someone we have attempted to go down my path yourself.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think that that's probably where I crossed into

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Speaker 3: But it's definitely temptations always going to be there with

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Speaker 3: And that's what happens now. So I guess that's just

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Speaker 2: Always feel like when I've seen, like I've been in

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Speaker 3: Coach that a way too far.

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Speaker 2: Well, I see that the girls are dancing and there's

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Speaker 2: looks like, oh my god, they're doing all this for

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Speaker 3: Yes, So I went to I'm a place in Sydney

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, Like I think it's all behind

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of places now in Sydney like Sefton

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Speaker 2: do it do it too?

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Speaker 3: And so you and you know, I think it's people

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Speaker 3: prefer bribe intimacy, you know, intimate gatherings like like a

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Speaker 3: lot of hotel things and so forth. That's so much

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Speaker 1: You know, do you do private parties when you were shipper?

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Speaker 1: Did you do prob? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, private party plus all the indie stuff in the

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Speaker 1: So how long did you do Melbourne for?

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Speaker 3: So I had an apartment there for about six years,

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Speaker 1: Which one made the best money, go Coast Melbourne by bar?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand. So that's why I loved it down there.

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Speaker 3: But also remember who you client on Melbourne? Yes, people

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Speaker 2: Well, I think tourists and like yeah exactlyty.

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Speaker 1: Players and haven't got the money to spend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know when I was I guess kind

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Speaker 3: of it in a way, like you know, the people

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Speaker 2: So yeah, any stalkers.

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Speaker 1: And while you've been doing that.

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Speaker 3: Not with that industry. I talked to you myself joking.

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Speaker 2: So what would you say now to anyone who wants

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Speaker 3: No, I think I think the day and age with

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Speaker 3: I think now you're got your only fans or your Instagram,

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Speaker 3: I think it's lost it's appeal. I don't think the

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Speaker 3: would say don't do it. Your only income and I

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Speaker 1: That's what I would say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that you never wanted to work at

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Speaker 3: I know because I think it. But there two men's gallery.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I didn't go back that way

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Speaker 1: So now you've come back. Your whole family knew that

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Speaker 1: they were okay with her.

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Speaker 3: Look let's fine. We used the word fine. Lucy didn't

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Speaker 3: wasn't okay with it, but you know, still supportive enough

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Speaker 3: of I do remember one time I was at circus

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Speaker 3: quick heads up that was what happened, just in case

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good friends though, what you were doing? Yeah, so friendship.

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Speaker 3: By then I had a couple of other she's my friends,

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Speaker 3: let's be honest, tattooed, treat you bad, red flag, you know,

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Speaker 2: Doesn't work because I do only job you had was that?

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Speaker 3: No, So I did chocolate, actually did do?

439
00:19:34,201 --> 00:19:34,641
Speaker 1: I just did?

440
00:19:34,681 --> 00:19:41,521
Speaker 3: I know right, I've did beauty therapy, I've done makeup,

441
00:19:42,241 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 3: I've done the brismo pieces. So I have got you

442
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 3: other things.

443
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,360
Speaker 1: So this is all while you were stripping.

444
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,801
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but nothing excited me as much.

445
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,481
Speaker 2: So when did you get out of stripping? When?

446
00:19:50,561 --> 00:19:52,201
Speaker 1: When did you feel like that you needed to stop?

447
00:19:52,761 --> 00:19:56,321
Speaker 3: I needed all told Okay, who told you?

448
00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:56,561
Speaker 5: Yeah?

449
00:19:56,561 --> 00:20:01,761
Speaker 1: I know, right, don't exactly what didn't work out?

450
00:20:03,761 --> 00:20:06,761
Speaker 3: So this was in two thousand, No, and I was

451
00:20:06,801 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 3: working for the clubs at the time, and I went

452
00:20:09,441 --> 00:20:12,801
Speaker 3: to summer field days and I met a DJ and

453
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,161
Speaker 3: spent a week with him up here like Melos whilst

454
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,401
Speaker 3: he was playing. A week they went to Minister Sound

455
00:20:19,481 --> 00:20:21,561
Speaker 3: to watch him play, and a week later then he

456
00:20:21,681 --> 00:20:23,801
Speaker 3: moved me to Sweden. I know, so very fast.

457
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 2: So you were you were actually dating him, or when

458
00:20:26,441 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 2: you say you were, you were with him at the start,

459
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,041
Speaker 2: do you know what you were doing? Yeah, so that's

460
00:20:30,041 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 2: how we met. Like I was, I was taking the

461
00:20:31,761 --> 00:20:34,521
Speaker 2: DJs around and stuff. That was kind of my primo job.

462
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,241
Speaker 3: So yeah, after a week of that, we went to

463
00:20:37,321 --> 00:20:39,641
Speaker 3: Ministry Sound and I watch him playvor there and a week

464
00:20:39,721 --> 00:20:41,361
Speaker 3: later than he moved me to Sweden.

465
00:20:41,761 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: You made them pressure on him.

466
00:20:46,521 --> 00:20:48,441
Speaker 2: What weeks already find around the world.

467
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I moved to Sweden and obviously that was

468
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 3: no good thing is I don't know much about Swedish people,

469
00:20:53,721 --> 00:20:56,241
Speaker 3: but you look Swedish, I know, but they are very tame.

470
00:20:56,721 --> 00:20:59,481
Speaker 1: So I got cold, calm my farm a lot.

471
00:20:59,801 --> 00:21:01,761
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was, you know it was I didn't

472
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 3: chance at all while so I was with him, obviously,

473
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 3: so I was told I didn't know was allowed to

474
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 3: Well he actually told you, yeah, yeah that was a

475
00:21:08,241 --> 00:21:10,561
Speaker 3: no go, And you said, no, you are right.

476
00:21:10,921 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: What made you see that's that's weird that you've only

477
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: known him for a week, so you were willing to

478
00:21:14,521 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 2: give up?

479
00:21:15,241 --> 00:21:15,561
Speaker 1: Yes?

480
00:21:15,921 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 3: Wow, I think in a way, I felt finally that

481
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 3: I found someone who was, let's do this together, the

482
00:21:22,761 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: type of thing. Whereas in the past the people have

483
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,281
Speaker 3: dated have it been like, you know, happy to you

484
00:21:27,321 --> 00:21:30,201
Speaker 3: know the nighttime, work together, and they're like, you're making

485
00:21:30,241 --> 00:21:31,801
Speaker 3: money and so forth. So it was kind of a

486
00:21:31,801 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: bit different, whereas I finally met someone who was probably

487
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: making more money than me, and so therefore it was

488
00:21:36,761 --> 00:21:37,881
Speaker 3: a different role.

489
00:21:37,721 --> 00:21:39,521
Speaker 1: Reversal type relationship.

490
00:21:39,761 --> 00:21:40,201
Speaker 2: Wow.

491
00:21:40,481 --> 00:21:42,801
Speaker 1: Yes, So how long did that last till you say

492
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,001
Speaker 1: that I've had nothing.

493
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,881
Speaker 2: To get back on stage?

494
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,561
Speaker 3: I was proving with him for eighteen months, really grateful.

495
00:21:50,921 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 3: Great man got to go around the world and watch

496
00:21:53,441 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 3: in DJ and so for amazing until I learned how

497
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,441
Speaker 3: to read and write and talk Swedish and found out

498
00:22:00,441 --> 00:22:04,961
Speaker 3: that he had a ex fiance the whole time in Sweden.

499
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,561
Speaker 1: For me in another house. Oh wow, I know.

500
00:22:08,681 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 3: So when I found that out, that was quite so.

501
00:22:10,921 --> 00:22:13,721
Speaker 2: He was always around other people talking in Swedish and all.

502
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I didn't know.

503
00:22:15,721 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 3: And then I started to learn, so I wanted to learn.

504
00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 3: You know, my plan was to stay forever and I

505
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,161
Speaker 3: can now I can read, write, and speak.

506
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,641
Speaker 1: But if you're going around with him to all these DJs,

507
00:22:24,681 --> 00:22:25,281
Speaker 1: not all of them.

508
00:22:25,321 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 3: So sometimes he'd go for like we'd go to Miami

509
00:22:27,201 --> 00:22:29,561
Speaker 3: for like four days and come back the other days

510
00:22:29,561 --> 00:22:32,281
Speaker 3: he would go to Rush or something, but then stay

511
00:22:32,321 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 3: two yorks to days or something.

512
00:22:33,521 --> 00:22:35,041
Speaker 1: But wouldn't he be always photographed?

513
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,441
Speaker 3: You can remember back in these days, it's not as prevalent,

514
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,521
Speaker 3: and some of these like he was very private. I

515
00:22:40,681 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: wonder why so something that aren't putting their laugh on Instagram.

516
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: Like I am.

517
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because everyone knew about it. It was you know,

518
00:22:47,481 --> 00:22:48,241
Speaker 3: it's kind of the scene.

519
00:22:48,241 --> 00:22:49,521
Speaker 1: You know what I asked you at the time, like

520
00:22:49,561 --> 00:22:50,201
Speaker 1: who you are?

521
00:22:50,561 --> 00:22:51,761
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone knew about it.

522
00:22:52,001 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: Likely his friends knew.

523
00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:57,801
Speaker 2: They were keeping quiet for him.

524
00:22:58,041 --> 00:22:58,801
Speaker 1: They were the.

525
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,161
Speaker 3: Broke, over run the brain wrongs, wrong with.

526
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:02,801
Speaker 2: You guys, Oh my god.

527
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was after eighteen months, and then that

528
00:23:05,201 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 3: ended and I went to UK and I was having

529
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 3: itching anyway, So I was missing making my own money.

530
00:23:12,201 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: You know. I was doing little bits of makeup and

531
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,201
Speaker 3: stuff over there, but not the same amount of money

532
00:23:16,241 --> 00:23:19,241
Speaker 3: I was making before, so I had it anyway. So

533
00:23:19,561 --> 00:23:24,321
Speaker 3: when I got to England, England again London, of course,

534
00:23:24,801 --> 00:23:28,001
Speaker 3: rhino walk straight in. Oh like it didn't issue straight

535
00:23:28,001 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 3: away and it was. I was for a week, staying

536
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,801
Speaker 3: for longer. But yeah, that's what kicked me step back.

537
00:23:35,241 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: I've read there for about three months, but that's what

538
00:23:37,681 --> 00:23:42,041
Speaker 3: time to put me back into. Yeah, yeah, was it?

539
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy it over there?

540
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: I hated the cold, it's worse than here, but no,

541
00:23:45,201 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 3: I did enjoy it there. Year was differently, where do

542
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:47,401
Speaker 3: you reckon?

543
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,721
Speaker 1: The best place is that you've stripped? Where's wiz? Oh?

544
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,001
Speaker 3: The best place sounds.

545
00:23:51,681 --> 00:23:53,321
Speaker 1: Like it was fucking overseas in Japan or something.

546
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: I like Melbourne. Japan is crazy, absolutely insane. They are

547
00:23:56,561 --> 00:23:59,401
Speaker 3: over there. They've got some crazy stuff they were over there.

548
00:23:59,521 --> 00:24:01,481
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how much you know about the sex

549
00:24:01,521 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: industry or whatever over there, but they've got some crazy

550
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:07,001
Speaker 3: things they do, Like, you know, to sell the panties

551
00:24:07,001 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 3: in the vending machines, Yeah, yeah, panties in the vending machines.

552
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:18,201
Speaker 2: Use panies, yeah, back off, used panies in the slop

553
00:24:18,241 --> 00:24:19,841
Speaker 2: in the machines and you can pay for it.

554
00:24:21,241 --> 00:24:24,281
Speaker 3: What the fu yes, I know. So there's a different dynamic.

555
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,561
Speaker 4: So the girl takes it off, puts it in for sale. Yeah,

556
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,321
Speaker 4: and you come to a slot machine.

557
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: Getting very shocked by this.

558
00:24:32,201 --> 00:24:33,561
Speaker 3: You know girls are do this or only fans at

559
00:24:33,561 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 3: the moment.

560
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the only funds. That's a bit weird. You know,

561
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,441
Speaker 2: you get the wados to buy put it in any

562
00:24:40,481 --> 00:24:41,321
Speaker 2: machines and the machine.

563
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,241
Speaker 3: Yeah so you can like buy, maam, but I'll see.

564
00:24:44,041 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: Selling the vendor machines.

565
00:24:45,521 --> 00:24:45,761
Speaker 1: That's it.

566
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: Ill.

567
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: It's very crazy over there. No, you wouldn't expect it.

568
00:24:52,721 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 3: You're expect to be quite subjube. But no, I enjoyed that.

569
00:24:57,281 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: It was one of my favorite places to go. Hong

570
00:24:59,961 --> 00:25:02,321
Speaker 3: Kong was great because the nightlife and stuff was fun there.

571
00:25:02,761 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, guess guess best money I would say it

572
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,521
Speaker 3: would be Spirit runout London and Melbourne, no gathering.

573
00:25:08,721 --> 00:25:10,921
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when when was it that you just went

574
00:25:10,961 --> 00:25:14,121
Speaker 2: You know what, now you're saying you've had enough of stripping.

575
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: Now you're saying to yourself you're over stripping or you're

576
00:25:17,521 --> 00:25:19,601
Speaker 2: over stripping, and you still doing it sometimes a little bit.

577
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 3: That's how I went to Seventh play House. Oh that's

578
00:25:22,921 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: why I was. I went to have a little seavers.

579
00:25:24,521 --> 00:25:26,001
Speaker 3: I thought, am I going to stage y? And I

580
00:25:26,041 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: was like, am I joined? I do enjoy dancings. I

581
00:25:30,001 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: actually missed that performance since you've done oh gosh on

582
00:25:34,001 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: stage or like just in general dance every morning, So

583
00:25:41,441 --> 00:25:44,121
Speaker 3: the last one would have been yeah, quite a Yeah,

584
00:25:44,321 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 3: it would have been spent rhino, yeah, feet and do it. Yeah, definitely,

585
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: because I didn't stop dancing. The only reason I stopped

586
00:25:53,441 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: dancing was so I felt pregnant. Yeah, and I actually

587
00:25:56,001 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: danced until I seventeen weeks pregnant, really had a flat stomach.

588
00:25:59,481 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: I was just very lucky you were on stage dancing

589
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,601
Speaker 3: seventeen weeks flat stomach. No one knew it's are you? Yeah?

590
00:26:05,681 --> 00:26:06,921
Speaker 2: Do you feel your baby moving inside?

591
00:26:08,681 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 3: So I think I have one of those percents backwards whatever.

592
00:26:12,241 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't choose to stop dancing like so

593
00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:17,041
Speaker 3: to speak, It's kind of happened.

594
00:26:17,281 --> 00:26:17,801
Speaker 2: Wow.

595
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: So I think it's one of.

596
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,241
Speaker 3: Those things also where when things are taken away from

597
00:26:22,281 --> 00:26:25,561
Speaker 3: your control is different to you making that choice.

598
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,801
Speaker 1: So you are definitely trying to make a comeback.

599
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: No, I think what I'm doing now, I think is

600
00:26:29,961 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: definitely more lucrative and more business minded, but I do

601
00:26:34,201 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: like to field up. You know, where else can I

602
00:26:36,921 --> 00:26:37,321
Speaker 3: make money?

603
00:26:37,321 --> 00:26:38,881
Speaker 1: Where else can I surely think.

604
00:26:38,681 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: You go back to Melbourne if you did do it,

605
00:26:40,201 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 2: Like if you've saying money, Melbourne's the place where you

606
00:26:42,201 --> 00:26:42,761
Speaker 2: make good money.

607
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, you know, look around around.

608
00:26:49,761 --> 00:26:52,801
Speaker 2: So before we go on talking about what you're doing now,

609
00:26:53,281 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: you know, I mean going from stripping to another adventure,

610
00:26:56,441 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: I just want to bring up something that you know

611
00:26:58,681 --> 00:27:01,561
Speaker 2: you told me about and you know, I thought I

612
00:27:01,681 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: touched base on it about your brother Damien. Now, like

613
00:27:05,521 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: for those who don't know who your brother is, Damien,

614
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,961
Speaker 2: he was the guy who was actually shot while responding

615
00:27:11,961 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: to an arm robbery on the Gold Coast. Okay, so

616
00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: were you overseas when this happened.

617
00:27:17,481 --> 00:27:20,001
Speaker 3: Yes, so I was in England and my daughter was

618
00:27:20,041 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: three weeks old, so I flew they flew me back

619
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,561
Speaker 3: for that obviously. I think I told you last week

620
00:27:29,001 --> 00:27:31,201
Speaker 3: was the anniverse. Yeah, that's why I was down. You've

621
00:27:31,201 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: been down here. I like to do every year. I

622
00:27:33,281 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 3: like to do my own kind of speaking, like just

623
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: remember it. So that's kind of changed with the dynamic

624
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,761
Speaker 3: of things as well.

625
00:27:40,321 --> 00:27:42,761
Speaker 2: Everything how did you feel when you got the phone

626
00:27:42,801 --> 00:27:46,201
Speaker 2: call from Was it like it felt like it wasn't

627
00:27:46,201 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: real like it was.

628
00:27:48,281 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: You can propalate some things in your life, that is

629
00:27:50,761 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: the things you remember. It's funny thing little things to remember.

630
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: I remember you in the phone call. I know exactly

631
00:27:56,241 --> 00:27:58,281
Speaker 3: where I was. I was at a bakery in England

632
00:27:58,481 --> 00:28:01,001
Speaker 3: and I got told of being shot and I was like, okay,

633
00:28:01,041 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: I was just know how here he is?

634
00:28:02,241 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: And he at the phone.

635
00:28:03,241 --> 00:28:06,521
Speaker 3: It was almost like ignorance and avoidance. I had no

636
00:28:06,561 --> 00:28:08,761
Speaker 3: idea where had been shot, and it asked nothing at all.

637
00:28:08,961 --> 00:28:11,481
Speaker 3: It's like I just And it wasn't until I went

638
00:28:11,561 --> 00:28:14,281
Speaker 3: back for the bakery that the police came to the

639
00:28:14,281 --> 00:28:16,961
Speaker 3: house and grabbed me and flew me home. I still

640
00:28:17,001 --> 00:28:19,321
Speaker 3: had no idea on the plane where.

641
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: He was shot and how about it was.

642
00:28:21,241 --> 00:28:23,281
Speaker 3: So I got off the plane and they'd stopped the

643
00:28:23,321 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 3: plane and they pulled me off and they told me

644
00:28:26,241 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: his workmate told me. I was like, I had no idea,

645
00:28:29,041 --> 00:28:34,041
Speaker 3: like it just avoidance. Yeah, a bit of a challenging time, but.

646
00:28:35,041 --> 00:28:36,241
Speaker 1: Yeah, how close were you?

647
00:28:36,761 --> 00:28:37,001
Speaker 4: Yeah?

648
00:28:37,201 --> 00:28:39,121
Speaker 3: Pretty close? So no, we did all the you know,

649
00:28:39,281 --> 00:28:42,121
Speaker 3: Indiani balls together and stuff like he sways take me

650
00:28:42,401 --> 00:28:44,281
Speaker 3: whilst my parents away and stuff, you know, keep me

651
00:28:44,281 --> 00:28:47,521
Speaker 3: out of trouble. Yeah, so we were pretty close. But

652
00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:52,361
Speaker 3: it's one of those things I think, even like going

653
00:28:52,361 --> 00:28:54,001
Speaker 3: forward now, like the say about stuff is that you know,

654
00:28:54,041 --> 00:28:56,241
Speaker 3: that's why I love my life, love it because I'm

655
00:28:56,281 --> 00:28:58,961
Speaker 3: grateful I've outlived him, and you know, I think he's

656
00:28:58,961 --> 00:29:01,081
Speaker 3: better human I am. He should have not been gone,

657
00:29:01,121 --> 00:29:02,521
Speaker 3: you know, if anyone was to be, it should have

658
00:29:02,521 --> 00:29:05,041
Speaker 3: been me in that regard. So I lived my life,

659
00:29:05,201 --> 00:29:05,881
Speaker 3: love my life.

660
00:29:06,041 --> 00:29:07,921
Speaker 1: But why do you think that that? Why did you

661
00:29:07,961 --> 00:29:08,321
Speaker 1: say that?

662
00:29:08,641 --> 00:29:10,321
Speaker 3: I think it's a better human me, you know, like

663
00:29:10,481 --> 00:29:13,081
Speaker 3: you know, his purpose in life was actually saving people,

664
00:29:13,121 --> 00:29:15,561
Speaker 3: and you know, I think that something may be in

665
00:29:15,601 --> 00:29:16,801
Speaker 3: my life with questionable.

666
00:29:17,161 --> 00:29:19,281
Speaker 2: But then again, you can turn around and say that

667
00:29:19,601 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: just because you're doing stripping or whatever, you could be

668
00:29:22,481 --> 00:29:24,761
Speaker 2: saving someone's life by the fact that that they're on

669
00:29:24,801 --> 00:29:27,161
Speaker 2: the depression and they're coming in to see you and

670
00:29:27,161 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: you make them happy.

671
00:29:28,041 --> 00:29:30,361
Speaker 3: You and I probably get that. But a lot of

672
00:29:30,361 --> 00:29:33,521
Speaker 3: people are still judgmental about this whole industry. A lot

673
00:29:33,761 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: I get a lot of still get a lot of

674
00:29:35,521 --> 00:29:38,441
Speaker 3: hate and stuff in my inboxes, quite a lots of appointment.

675
00:29:38,481 --> 00:29:40,841
Speaker 3: Now I have I have keywords that I put in

676
00:29:41,001 --> 00:29:45,681
Speaker 3: that blocks out messages. You know, much hate that is this?

677
00:29:46,001 --> 00:29:47,681
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but people people in.

678
00:29:48,001 --> 00:29:49,561
Speaker 3: The jealous of you know, if you're doing well, or

679
00:29:50,041 --> 00:29:53,241
Speaker 3: they don't like that you're what you're doing, or it's religious,

680
00:29:53,321 --> 00:29:54,281
Speaker 3: or is this or there's some.

681
00:29:54,201 --> 00:29:55,641
Speaker 2: Reason, you know, how do you deal with that?

682
00:29:56,281 --> 00:29:59,161
Speaker 3: I blocked all the things out anyway, But now I think,

683
00:29:59,281 --> 00:30:03,321
Speaker 3: as I've got better more self about it is that

684
00:30:04,081 --> 00:30:06,401
Speaker 3: last year is when I came out publicly about what

685
00:30:06,441 --> 00:30:09,921
Speaker 3: I was doing. Before I always hid my face. I

686
00:30:10,001 --> 00:30:12,401
Speaker 3: didn't tell anyone. And I made the decision to come

687
00:30:12,401 --> 00:30:15,441
Speaker 3: out publicly last year because I thought, if I own

688
00:30:15,561 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: my shit, then you can't say it to me, okay.

689
00:30:18,481 --> 00:30:20,121
Speaker 3: And it's been the best thing I've ever done in

690
00:30:20,161 --> 00:30:22,161
Speaker 3: regards for that, because I'm like, here, I am this,

691
00:30:22,201 --> 00:30:24,321
Speaker 3: what I'm doing is who I am. If you put

692
00:30:24,361 --> 00:30:26,401
Speaker 3: a problem with it, that's on you rather than someone

693
00:30:26,521 --> 00:30:29,321
Speaker 3: coming at me, Oh I heard you doing this, Yeah

694
00:30:29,361 --> 00:30:31,361
Speaker 3: I am so owing it to me has been the

695
00:30:31,361 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: best thing I've ever done.

696
00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:36,841
Speaker 1: My question is why why did you go down the

697
00:30:37,001 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: escort thing?

698
00:30:37,481 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: Point? Oh gosh? I hat two reasons. One was I

699
00:30:42,081 --> 00:30:44,321
Speaker 3: was in a relationship the time, but he was cheating

700
00:30:44,361 --> 00:30:47,641
Speaker 3: on me. And when I found out he actually had

701
00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:50,881
Speaker 3: no sex adiction and I didn't know about it, and

702
00:30:50,961 --> 00:30:53,361
Speaker 3: he was seeing all these escorts and so forth, I

703
00:30:53,441 --> 00:30:55,921
Speaker 3: went to counseling with him and his doctor and started

704
00:30:55,921 --> 00:30:59,041
Speaker 3: research into sex addiction. So on my own, I actually

705
00:30:59,081 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: went to the broth on myself because I was like,

706
00:31:02,481 --> 00:31:04,881
Speaker 3: I want to see what the hell these women have

707
00:31:05,121 --> 00:31:09,481
Speaker 3: I have. And it was the most understanding, completely think

708
00:31:09,561 --> 00:31:12,601
Speaker 3: of his eye break up ever because I got what

709
00:31:12,641 --> 00:31:16,441
Speaker 3: it was. It wasn't about going and falling in love

710
00:31:16,561 --> 00:31:20,721
Speaker 3: or that. It was about instant gratification, no complication, you leave,

711
00:31:20,761 --> 00:31:23,001
Speaker 3: there's no drama and there's nothing you know, you're not

712
00:31:23,081 --> 00:31:26,241
Speaker 3: bickering with the partner whatever. It was an instant gratification

713
00:31:26,281 --> 00:31:28,721
Speaker 3: thing that he would need it. I guess some things

714
00:31:28,721 --> 00:31:30,881
Speaker 3: that are you know, withhe his drugs out or sex,

715
00:31:31,001 --> 00:31:33,721
Speaker 3: whatever we're all into. There is something normally that we've

716
00:31:33,721 --> 00:31:36,681
Speaker 3: got that instant gratification, and his was the sex. And

717
00:31:36,761 --> 00:31:41,001
Speaker 3: even though I was giving leaves of it, you get

718
00:31:41,001 --> 00:31:45,801
Speaker 3: a morning night still. So I went in there for

719
00:31:45,841 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: that reason to find out and it was that's all

720
00:31:48,801 --> 00:31:50,881
Speaker 3: kind of like interests me a bit. And one of

721
00:31:50,881 --> 00:31:53,441
Speaker 3: the managers said to me, have you thought about working here?

722
00:31:53,561 --> 00:31:56,281
Speaker 3: And I was like, you make good money here and

723
00:31:56,321 --> 00:31:56,681
Speaker 3: I was like.

724
00:31:58,681 --> 00:32:03,521
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you what did you say when you

725
00:32:03,521 --> 00:32:03,801
Speaker 2: came in?

726
00:32:03,841 --> 00:32:04,361
Speaker 1: What were you doing?

727
00:32:05,561 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: I was pretty upsets all the time because I was

728
00:32:07,481 --> 00:32:10,881
Speaker 3: trying to navigate what did this happen? Yeah, And so

729
00:32:10,921 --> 00:32:13,561
Speaker 3: I explained the whole situation of what that is.

730
00:32:13,801 --> 00:32:17,201
Speaker 1: Was it actually the brothel he went to? I don't know, okay,

731
00:32:17,241 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: and I don't want to know.

732
00:32:18,401 --> 00:32:20,641
Speaker 3: So from that and I always said him as well,

733
00:32:20,641 --> 00:32:22,161
Speaker 3: I said, if he's ever been there, don't tell me.

734
00:32:22,161 --> 00:32:24,521
Speaker 3: I don't don't need to know. So there was that reason,

735
00:32:24,561 --> 00:32:29,481
Speaker 3: I guess. And also we've been completely honest. I had

736
00:32:29,281 --> 00:32:32,281
Speaker 3: so I've got two gorgeous kids, very very grateful after

737
00:32:32,361 --> 00:32:34,481
Speaker 3: murder my brother, even though I was like three weeks

738
00:32:34,641 --> 00:32:36,841
Speaker 3: model was three weeks old, I had no sex ry.

739
00:32:37,481 --> 00:32:37,961
Speaker 1: It was gone.

740
00:32:38,041 --> 00:32:40,161
Speaker 3: I got no I had no interest in sex. I

741
00:32:40,201 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: don't know if it was the PTSD or if it

742
00:32:42,321 --> 00:32:44,961
Speaker 3: was trauma or whatever, but it had no interest in

743
00:32:45,001 --> 00:32:48,041
Speaker 3: sex for ages, and then all of a sudden, when

744
00:32:48,041 --> 00:32:50,161
Speaker 3: I met this new guy, I got it back again.

745
00:32:50,561 --> 00:32:52,441
Speaker 3: And then for me. It was like, you know what,

746
00:32:53,081 --> 00:32:55,361
Speaker 3: you've taken that power away from me by having these

747
00:32:55,641 --> 00:32:57,681
Speaker 3: you know what, why can't I have all that as well? So,

748
00:32:57,801 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: you know, in a way, it became a bit of

749
00:32:59,201 --> 00:33:01,921
Speaker 3: a not a chip with tap, but became a bit

750
00:33:01,961 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: of a bit of a just a path is to

751
00:33:04,001 --> 00:33:06,721
Speaker 3: go down and see if I really had lost my sex,

752
00:33:06,841 --> 00:33:09,721
Speaker 3: right or if I was still sexual. But also I

753
00:33:09,841 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: still felt validated, and that was a big thing for me.

754
00:33:12,801 --> 00:33:16,001
Speaker 3: Him cheated me, other women made me feel like I

755
00:33:16,081 --> 00:33:20,121
Speaker 3: wasn't enough, hence my tatter you are enough. I wasn't enough.

756
00:33:20,161 --> 00:33:23,841
Speaker 3: So in a way, the sex industry gave me that feeling.

757
00:33:24,321 --> 00:33:25,961
Speaker 3: You know, people want to hang out and you want

758
00:33:25,961 --> 00:33:28,601
Speaker 3: to see you, whereas you know, when you've broken and

759
00:33:28,681 --> 00:33:32,281
Speaker 3: someone cheats on you or whatever, you feel worthless.

760
00:33:32,321 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 5: You know.

761
00:33:32,561 --> 00:33:35,801
Speaker 2: So you said something before, but you gave him a

762
00:33:35,801 --> 00:33:38,001
Speaker 2: lot of sex, right, yeah.

763
00:33:38,601 --> 00:33:41,361
Speaker 1: Emphasis on a lot. By the way, case he's hearing this,

764
00:33:41,481 --> 00:33:41,841
Speaker 1: a lot.

765
00:33:41,881 --> 00:33:43,161
Speaker 3: You got a lot of sex out of me.

766
00:33:43,521 --> 00:33:44,521
Speaker 1: I want some money.

767
00:33:47,521 --> 00:33:52,281
Speaker 6: Words later, But did you change the way you had

768
00:33:52,361 --> 00:33:57,201
Speaker 6: sex when you started in the industry or the way

769
00:33:57,201 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 6: you performed you know what I mean?

770
00:33:58,321 --> 00:33:59,241
Speaker 1: The way you play the round?

771
00:33:59,641 --> 00:34:02,241
Speaker 3: Did it change, Well, not really because I was I

772
00:34:02,281 --> 00:34:07,841
Speaker 3: was always into I guess performing for you know, known

773
00:34:07,841 --> 00:34:09,841
Speaker 3: to me, he's going for this brothels, he's getting that

774
00:34:09,921 --> 00:34:12,641
Speaker 3: experience anyway, he's encouraging me to be like that. So

775
00:34:12,721 --> 00:34:15,401
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, outfits and all that stuff. So

776
00:34:15,441 --> 00:34:17,641
Speaker 3: he was asking for this, yeah, but I was Anyways,

777
00:34:17,641 --> 00:34:20,681
Speaker 3: I loved it, so I was like, yay, little don't

778
00:34:20,721 --> 00:34:24,321
Speaker 3: know that I was feeding his addiction more so. So

779
00:34:24,961 --> 00:34:27,841
Speaker 3: I guess when you say, did it change absolutely when

780
00:34:27,961 --> 00:34:31,561
Speaker 3: you first start a place like that, because it's not normal,

781
00:34:31,641 --> 00:34:34,481
Speaker 3: so to speak, So it did change in I guess

782
00:34:34,481 --> 00:34:35,081
Speaker 3: in a way.

783
00:34:35,441 --> 00:34:36,321
Speaker 1: Does it dawn things? Have?

784
00:34:36,401 --> 00:34:37,121
Speaker 2: Your first client?

785
00:34:37,641 --> 00:34:40,921
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I reckon, I can you still remember that first client?

786
00:34:41,001 --> 00:34:41,161
Speaker 2: Yes?

787
00:34:41,321 --> 00:34:42,161
Speaker 3: I was panicked.

788
00:34:42,281 --> 00:34:43,841
Speaker 2: Yes, did you look at him? I was like, how

789
00:34:43,841 --> 00:34:46,121
Speaker 2: did you? How did you do your first Like I'm

790
00:34:46,161 --> 00:34:52,161
Speaker 2: not meaning how did you do? M how did you?

791
00:34:52,281 --> 00:34:53,481
Speaker 1: How did you?

792
00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:57,601
Speaker 2: But how did you perform knowing that this is a

793
00:34:57,681 --> 00:35:00,001
Speaker 2: client and not somebody that you're you've got feelings?

794
00:35:00,081 --> 00:35:00,281
Speaker 1: Yes?

795
00:35:00,641 --> 00:35:03,361
Speaker 3: So I think the difference is that if you're working

796
00:35:03,401 --> 00:35:05,401
Speaker 3: in a broth or so so sweet, you've got people

797
00:35:05,401 --> 00:35:07,841
Speaker 3: around you to kind of help me navigate that in

798
00:35:07,881 --> 00:35:09,921
Speaker 3: a way so different from you and I. You know,

799
00:35:10,201 --> 00:35:12,521
Speaker 3: you need to be sex attracted to someone has clearly,

800
00:35:12,561 --> 00:35:15,321
Speaker 3: you know, females not really you can use lube and

801
00:35:15,361 --> 00:35:18,961
Speaker 3: stuff really well, you know, your dick's not really hard

802
00:35:18,961 --> 00:35:20,641
Speaker 3: on it if you're not attracted to someone yet.

803
00:35:20,681 --> 00:35:22,961
Speaker 1: But surely, but surely it'd be the same for female.

804
00:35:23,041 --> 00:35:24,921
Speaker 3: No, that's loube and things like that as well. So

805
00:35:24,961 --> 00:35:31,561
Speaker 3: it's like, really want to say that, absolutely, really no, absolutely,

806
00:35:31,601 --> 00:35:34,721
Speaker 3: So women can have sex without being sexually attracted to

807
00:35:34,801 --> 00:35:38,241
Speaker 3: someone physically because we can use things to help out,

808
00:35:38,321 --> 00:35:41,161
Speaker 3: whereas men you obviously have to be or you need

809
00:35:41,161 --> 00:35:43,161
Speaker 3: your vigrains and so forth. But you know what I mean.

810
00:35:43,201 --> 00:35:44,921
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit easier for females than is

811
00:35:44,961 --> 00:35:46,921
Speaker 3: the men to be able to do it that way.

812
00:35:47,161 --> 00:35:51,121
Speaker 3: Headspace wise, it depends on where you're at. So I

813
00:35:51,121 --> 00:35:54,681
Speaker 3: think for me, I had been through from my brother

814
00:35:54,881 --> 00:35:57,321
Speaker 3: all those things that I had was in a different

815
00:35:57,321 --> 00:36:00,841
Speaker 3: headspace of like I don't know, not anger towards the

816
00:36:00,881 --> 00:36:04,201
Speaker 3: world or people, but I hated men. I hated the

817
00:36:04,361 --> 00:36:05,041
Speaker 3: hated the world.

818
00:36:05,241 --> 00:36:07,241
Speaker 2: Said, man, how could you let a man touch you them?

819
00:36:07,561 --> 00:36:08,881
Speaker 2: I'm working a brothel.

820
00:36:08,761 --> 00:36:11,481
Speaker 3: Because I was taking them from their money. So for

821
00:36:11,561 --> 00:36:13,281
Speaker 3: me back then, it was like, well, you know what,

822
00:36:13,761 --> 00:36:15,441
Speaker 3: you can list give me money, Michael.

823
00:36:15,481 --> 00:36:16,601
Speaker 1: That's how I was angry about.

824
00:36:16,601 --> 00:36:17,881
Speaker 3: I was angry about if you're going to cheat on

825
00:36:17,881 --> 00:36:20,121
Speaker 3: me in all those things as a man, lest give

826
00:36:20,121 --> 00:36:22,561
Speaker 3: me money. So I was very angry, and I think

827
00:36:22,601 --> 00:36:24,681
Speaker 3: that had to do with my brother because I angry

828
00:36:24,721 --> 00:36:27,401
Speaker 3: at the world about that I thought was unfair and unjust,

829
00:36:27,521 --> 00:36:29,641
Speaker 3: and I thought being cheated and was unfair and unjust.

830
00:36:29,841 --> 00:36:32,041
Speaker 3: So I had a lot of that going on. So

831
00:36:32,081 --> 00:36:34,921
Speaker 3: I think that's what navigated me through those parts of

832
00:36:34,961 --> 00:36:38,481
Speaker 3: her and then until so I was do enjoying it

833
00:36:38,521 --> 00:36:42,401
Speaker 3: the time for that reason, until then I started to

834
00:36:42,481 --> 00:36:46,241
Speaker 3: change my mindset towards the world and life and love

835
00:36:46,321 --> 00:36:49,081
Speaker 3: myself more again in a way that I went from

836
00:36:49,081 --> 00:36:51,121
Speaker 3: having to needing to do to wanting to do it,

837
00:36:51,401 --> 00:36:54,881
Speaker 3: and that my mindset now is completely change. Between that and.

838
00:36:54,841 --> 00:36:56,641
Speaker 1: That, you ever said no to a client?

839
00:36:56,881 --> 00:36:59,201
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, gosh yeah, and a brothel yes yes. So

840
00:36:59,481 --> 00:37:01,601
Speaker 3: normally speaking, you you can and can't in a way,

841
00:37:02,001 --> 00:37:03,081
Speaker 3: That's why I don't really advocate.

842
00:37:03,161 --> 00:37:04,921
Speaker 1: But why did you say? What's turned you off?

843
00:37:05,241 --> 00:37:05,401
Speaker 2: Oh?

844
00:37:05,521 --> 00:37:10,001
Speaker 3: Look, where do we start? Not a bounce and not tattoed,

845
00:37:10,281 --> 00:37:11,001
Speaker 3: not a red flag.

846
00:37:12,001 --> 00:37:12,881
Speaker 1: That's a joke. By the way.

847
00:37:13,841 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: No, if people speak to respect, which you straight away,

848
00:37:16,561 --> 00:37:19,721
Speaker 3: I don't like that. So, like I said, in those circumstances,

849
00:37:19,801 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: I've got the upper hand. So if you speak really

850
00:37:23,561 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: to me or something like, I can say no to that.

851
00:37:25,601 --> 00:37:28,041
Speaker 3: But generally speaking, I'm not sure how much you know

852
00:37:28,081 --> 00:37:31,041
Speaker 3: about broth or work. You can't really say no in brothels.

853
00:37:31,041 --> 00:37:33,361
Speaker 3: Girls who are working there, they're lining up behind the

854
00:37:33,441 --> 00:37:35,801
Speaker 3: door and they get picked. So that's why I don't

855
00:37:35,801 --> 00:37:37,721
Speaker 3: do broth to work at all anymore, because I think

856
00:37:37,761 --> 00:37:40,001
Speaker 3: you should be able to time, your own body, be

857
00:37:40,001 --> 00:37:42,841
Speaker 3: able to do. But definitely, I've been in rooms where

858
00:37:42,801 --> 00:37:46,041
Speaker 3: I've ended bookings absolutely, you know, like I've had some

859
00:37:46,401 --> 00:37:47,161
Speaker 3: what's the worst.

860
00:37:46,961 --> 00:37:48,761
Speaker 2: Experience you've Oh yeah.

861
00:37:48,761 --> 00:37:50,201
Speaker 3: I think if you say no to someone to do

862
00:37:50,241 --> 00:37:53,521
Speaker 3: something to and they do it anyway, that's that's an

863
00:37:53,561 --> 00:37:56,921
Speaker 3: immediate no, no disrespect as a walk out type thing.

864
00:37:57,281 --> 00:37:58,801
Speaker 3: And I think people try and as humans trying and

865
00:37:58,841 --> 00:38:01,681
Speaker 3: push boundaries to each person. They think you're nice and

866
00:38:01,721 --> 00:38:04,281
Speaker 3: try and push and push and push. Yes, that's not

867
00:38:04,281 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: all Sunshine Raven. It's like someone it's good, someone's bad.

868
00:38:07,321 --> 00:38:11,521
Speaker 3: I've had I only do private work now in saying that,

869
00:38:11,561 --> 00:38:13,361
Speaker 3: I've had some bad experience in private work too.

870
00:38:13,641 --> 00:38:16,481
Speaker 2: So see with the private work, how would you know

871
00:38:16,521 --> 00:38:18,041
Speaker 2: who's coming to see just to see them?

872
00:38:18,201 --> 00:38:20,561
Speaker 3: So with private work, you know, I've got true call

873
00:38:20,601 --> 00:38:23,401
Speaker 3: on my phone, so that's you know, that screened everyone's

874
00:38:23,601 --> 00:38:27,321
Speaker 3: phone numbers and stuff as well. That's only half of it. Obviously,

875
00:38:27,641 --> 00:38:30,521
Speaker 3: I'm pretty good now navigating text message and so forth,

876
00:38:30,681 --> 00:38:33,121
Speaker 3: how people are straight away and the site, so you

877
00:38:33,121 --> 00:38:36,481
Speaker 3: know skarlet I advertise through it comes through their website

878
00:38:36,521 --> 00:38:39,041
Speaker 3: to my phones. Anyway, I can navigate a little bit

879
00:38:39,121 --> 00:38:41,361
Speaker 3: what they're saying. But then you know I will do

880
00:38:41,401 --> 00:38:43,361
Speaker 3: things like where that you've got to pay deposits or

881
00:38:43,841 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: you can see their license. But again that's not fail

882
00:38:46,521 --> 00:38:49,521
Speaker 3: for it. I've had two very bad experiences, one in

883
00:38:49,561 --> 00:38:51,761
Speaker 3: Sydney and one on the Gold Coast.

884
00:38:51,801 --> 00:38:52,241
Speaker 2: What happens.

885
00:38:52,361 --> 00:38:55,121
Speaker 3: One in Sydney here I was in a hotel in

886
00:38:55,121 --> 00:38:59,001
Speaker 3: the city. And again this is where I say to girls,

887
00:38:59,401 --> 00:39:01,041
Speaker 3: when you get to that third or four day of

888
00:39:01,081 --> 00:39:04,321
Speaker 3: working and you're tired, you shut down a little bit,

889
00:39:04,681 --> 00:39:06,321
Speaker 3: you send this is around you. You got to be

890
00:39:06,361 --> 00:39:08,641
Speaker 3: a bit more on the ball. And I had an

891
00:39:08,681 --> 00:39:12,801
Speaker 3: overnight booking and the guy came and he paid me

892
00:39:13,041 --> 00:39:15,521
Speaker 3: the he paid me the whole deposit and screens to send.

893
00:39:15,521 --> 00:39:17,321
Speaker 3: It was through to me because I'm a little bit tired.

894
00:39:17,481 --> 00:39:19,241
Speaker 3: When I let him the door, I didn't lock the door.

895
00:39:19,921 --> 00:39:23,081
Speaker 3: And when I when he was so about going straight

896
00:39:23,121 --> 00:39:25,721
Speaker 3: in the bedroom and for an overnight, my open nights,

897
00:39:25,761 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: you know, quite expensive and normally it's like for dinner,

898
00:39:28,601 --> 00:39:31,401
Speaker 3: I hang out, so aspect, he was adam about being

899
00:39:31,401 --> 00:39:33,641
Speaker 3: in the room and like a sense that there was

900
00:39:33,721 --> 00:39:36,481
Speaker 3: he was kept looking around and then he ran, he said,

901
00:39:36,481 --> 00:39:38,881
Speaker 3: I've got to go downstairs my car. And when he left,

902
00:39:39,041 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: it's when I realized that something else followed him into

903
00:39:41,481 --> 00:39:44,801
Speaker 3: the room. And yeah, and then yeah, and then the

904
00:39:45,321 --> 00:39:48,161
Speaker 3: amount that he put into my account was a dummy.

905
00:39:48,241 --> 00:39:51,321
Speaker 3: It was it was a fake thing. So yeah, but

906
00:39:51,401 --> 00:39:52,681
Speaker 3: that's that's on me because.

907
00:39:52,521 --> 00:39:54,761
Speaker 2: I wasn't how much did you get robbed for?

908
00:39:55,041 --> 00:39:58,641
Speaker 3: So it was eight k were open and then the

909
00:39:58,801 --> 00:40:01,881
Speaker 3: got like my bags, all my cash nights before you

910
00:40:01,881 --> 00:40:02,601
Speaker 3: know everything.

911
00:40:02,361 --> 00:40:04,241
Speaker 2: So what happens there? Do you do? You tell the

912
00:40:04,281 --> 00:40:05,561
Speaker 2: hotel door? You quiet?

913
00:40:05,601 --> 00:40:08,161
Speaker 3: What you do to be honest with everything? You don't

914
00:40:08,321 --> 00:40:11,361
Speaker 3: because some places if you're renting when you're not should

915
00:40:11,401 --> 00:40:13,841
Speaker 3: be doing it from there. So some I feel like

916
00:40:13,921 --> 00:40:16,401
Speaker 3: you've got to have a bit of ink nedo with something,

917
00:40:16,441 --> 00:40:16,921
Speaker 3: you know, but.

918
00:40:16,921 --> 00:40:18,801
Speaker 2: Surely you've had around and say I've brought this guy

919
00:40:18,881 --> 00:40:20,201
Speaker 2: back and then and then they robbed me.

920
00:40:20,521 --> 00:40:22,561
Speaker 3: Yeah you can away, but then you go down the

921
00:40:22,801 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: garden path of you know, you don't know. I know that,

922
00:40:26,081 --> 00:40:28,641
Speaker 3: and sometimes work independently, you have to a bit careful

923
00:40:29,201 --> 00:40:31,321
Speaker 3: with that. But in saying that, like obviously with the

924
00:40:31,481 --> 00:40:33,761
Speaker 3: phone numbers and stuff, I put up, you know, a

925
00:40:33,801 --> 00:40:36,321
Speaker 3: warning so some other girls can see. But I said,

926
00:40:36,321 --> 00:40:38,521
Speaker 3: nothing is that. You know, I've put three friends you know,

927
00:40:38,721 --> 00:40:40,641
Speaker 3: nothing failed free fe from like ten phones anyway, you know,

928
00:40:41,881 --> 00:40:47,121
Speaker 3: So it is yeah, yeah, what happened in Melbourne Gold Coast.

929
00:40:47,121 --> 00:40:49,641
Speaker 3: That was a pretty bad one. That was in October

930
00:40:49,961 --> 00:40:52,961
Speaker 3: last year. I'm glad happened to me and not anyone

931
00:40:53,001 --> 00:40:57,681
Speaker 3: else because I'm resilient. I went to the booking it was,

932
00:40:58,241 --> 00:41:01,001
Speaker 3: attacks didn't drop me off where he said it was.

933
00:41:01,241 --> 00:41:03,321
Speaker 3: And because I was on my phone instead of looking

934
00:41:03,481 --> 00:41:06,081
Speaker 3: street freshuld have done it. I'm not a lot smarter

935
00:41:06,321 --> 00:41:08,201
Speaker 3: and I got there. He's like, it's not here. The

936
00:41:08,201 --> 00:41:10,561
Speaker 3: guy told me where it was one hundred meters ahead.

937
00:41:10,881 --> 00:41:11,721
Speaker 1: I went in there.

938
00:41:12,521 --> 00:41:14,081
Speaker 3: You know, at that moment when you walk in someone

939
00:41:14,161 --> 00:41:16,521
Speaker 3: you know something's not right. I walked in there and

940
00:41:16,561 --> 00:41:20,121
Speaker 3: there was one light in the corner, no furniture anywhere.

941
00:41:19,961 --> 00:41:23,561
Speaker 1: And I'm like buck, and I went fight or flight.

942
00:41:23,641 --> 00:41:26,321
Speaker 3: I knew. I knew that either run or I stay. Lisa,

943
00:41:26,321 --> 00:41:29,081
Speaker 3: I'm old enough I can deal with it, so I

944
00:41:29,161 --> 00:41:31,201
Speaker 3: just dealt with it whatever. That was a three hour booking,

945
00:41:31,281 --> 00:41:34,121
Speaker 3: so you know, Leasey paid me though, so you know,

946
00:41:34,721 --> 00:41:38,321
Speaker 3: never happened happened. You know. I was like, you know,

947
00:41:38,521 --> 00:41:40,961
Speaker 3: get done and get out, so to speak. So and

948
00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: then by the time I did get out together police

949
00:41:43,521 --> 00:41:46,441
Speaker 3: for that. When they got there, they it was abandoned house,

950
00:41:46,681 --> 00:41:51,041
Speaker 3: so he wasn't no to be seen. Yeah, but like

951
00:41:51,081 --> 00:41:54,441
Speaker 3: I said, luckily that happened to me and not someone younger.

952
00:41:54,681 --> 00:41:56,561
Speaker 1: This is part of my job, you know, like off.

953
00:41:57,481 --> 00:42:00,521
Speaker 3: No, I took a couple weeks off after that, but

954
00:42:00,761 --> 00:42:03,201
Speaker 3: I was more grateful that it happened to me and

955
00:42:03,201 --> 00:42:05,321
Speaker 3: not to anyone else. I know, I could were it

956
00:42:05,441 --> 00:42:08,121
Speaker 3: better than a younger girls, and that would have traumatized

957
00:42:08,161 --> 00:42:10,801
Speaker 3: me more. One of my younger girlfriends whatever dealing with it?

958
00:42:11,481 --> 00:42:17,121
Speaker 3: So yeah, wow, what's the worst nationality you've ever Indian?

959
00:42:17,961 --> 00:42:20,961
Speaker 2: Everyone says that. Everybody says that.

960
00:42:21,001 --> 00:42:24,801
Speaker 3: I swear they don't have the difference between love it

961
00:42:25,601 --> 00:42:29,281
Speaker 3: vagina and anas. They are two different places the matter.

962
00:42:29,361 --> 00:42:32,321
Speaker 3: We tell them no aners and they'll still act like

963
00:42:32,361 --> 00:42:37,361
Speaker 3: a vagina. I said, no, we're not stupid. Yes, anyways,

964
00:42:38,081 --> 00:42:39,601
Speaker 3: I actually don't see Indians, be honest.

965
00:42:42,601 --> 00:42:44,241
Speaker 1: What's the what's the most you've ever made?

966
00:42:44,401 --> 00:42:44,721
Speaker 2: Escort?

967
00:42:44,881 --> 00:42:48,241
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Look in my overseas minds are great. Somos

968
00:42:48,401 --> 00:42:50,641
Speaker 3: is a good you know, I can go overseas and

969
00:42:50,681 --> 00:42:53,121
Speaker 3: I got thirty k or something, So that's no plus

970
00:42:53,121 --> 00:42:55,481
Speaker 3: expense and stuff, so you know they're my problem. Are

971
00:42:55,521 --> 00:42:58,681
Speaker 3: better ones and that's where my Yeah, how.

972
00:42:58,561 --> 00:42:59,161
Speaker 2: Long for that?

973
00:42:59,161 --> 00:42:59,881
Speaker 3: A couple of days?

974
00:42:59,961 --> 00:43:01,961
Speaker 2: So where was that to?

975
00:43:02,561 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: So done Miami and I've done Laka for three days

976
00:43:06,561 --> 00:43:08,881
Speaker 3: or something like that, plus business class flights as well.

977
00:43:09,081 --> 00:43:10,321
Speaker 3: I'm not flying economy.

978
00:43:10,721 --> 00:43:14,201
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, rob me through that kind of schedule.

979
00:43:14,201 --> 00:43:16,001
Speaker 2: Then if you're going over to Miami for three days,

980
00:43:16,041 --> 00:43:17,881
Speaker 2: but that's okay, what's the schedule?

981
00:43:18,001 --> 00:43:19,521
Speaker 1: Can he get whatever he wants from you?

982
00:43:19,601 --> 00:43:21,881
Speaker 3: What's the no I think you couldn't trying to appeal

983
00:43:21,921 --> 00:43:24,281
Speaker 3: to a high clientele so to speak. The more the

984
00:43:24,281 --> 00:43:26,881
Speaker 3: more you appeels that way, almost better clients you get

985
00:43:26,921 --> 00:43:28,841
Speaker 3: and the less you need to do. So I have

986
00:43:28,961 --> 00:43:31,121
Speaker 3: a lot of clients, even here in Sydney and so forth.

987
00:43:32,041 --> 00:43:33,441
Speaker 3: I don't have sex with company.

988
00:43:33,561 --> 00:43:35,481
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a dinner more than dinner.

989
00:43:35,681 --> 00:43:37,321
Speaker 2: Why do you think they do that?

990
00:43:37,601 --> 00:43:39,441
Speaker 3: It's for them they get to have a you know,

991
00:43:40,081 --> 00:43:42,961
Speaker 3: half girl, gets on the arm, get the company. You know,

992
00:43:43,161 --> 00:43:45,601
Speaker 3: I can hold a conversation so to speak. And they

993
00:43:45,601 --> 00:43:49,801
Speaker 3: still get that without crossing boundaries. And that's what I

994
00:43:49,921 --> 00:43:52,161
Speaker 3: found a lot with a lot of men. Some people

995
00:43:52,161 --> 00:43:54,201
Speaker 3: don't actually want to have sex. They don't want to

996
00:43:54,441 --> 00:43:57,041
Speaker 3: in their partners. They want to think they do and

997
00:43:57,161 --> 00:43:59,081
Speaker 3: for the last part point and it givesn't that kind

998
00:43:59,121 --> 00:44:01,441
Speaker 3: of excitement event and then it stops at that and

999
00:44:01,481 --> 00:44:04,121
Speaker 3: that for them is there get off, so to speak.

1000
00:44:04,441 --> 00:44:07,401
Speaker 3: And that's what I've a lot of older men, they've

1001
00:44:07,401 --> 00:44:09,841
Speaker 3: got their marriages might begin at stale. They don't want

1002
00:44:09,841 --> 00:44:11,921
Speaker 3: to in their wives, but there was nothing that excitement

1003
00:44:12,001 --> 00:44:14,521
Speaker 3: so or something, you know. So that's what I find

1004
00:44:14,721 --> 00:44:17,001
Speaker 3: is that. So yeah, a lot of my clients that

1005
00:44:17,041 --> 00:44:19,761
Speaker 3: are you know, dinners and so forth overseas and stuff.

1006
00:44:19,761 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: They're always tailored personally to the person. But straight away

1007
00:44:22,961 --> 00:44:25,161
Speaker 3: if if someone said to me, like, oh, we're gonna

1008
00:44:26,081 --> 00:44:28,321
Speaker 3: for like twenty four hours, I'll be like in your dreams,

1009
00:44:32,841 --> 00:44:35,761
Speaker 3: But no, it's it's you know, it's it's normally dinner.

1010
00:44:36,081 --> 00:44:39,841
Speaker 3: It's you know, sight saying this intimacy. But everything's spelt

1011
00:44:39,881 --> 00:44:42,721
Speaker 3: out very much beforehand, like what's going to be involved

1012
00:44:42,721 --> 00:44:43,241
Speaker 3: without or not?

1013
00:44:43,681 --> 00:44:46,081
Speaker 2: What's the shortest you've ever had someone come into you

1014
00:44:46,321 --> 00:44:47,961
Speaker 2: and to like book you and then it was just

1015
00:44:48,041 --> 00:44:52,201
Speaker 2: finished them over and like you know, yes, it was

1016
00:44:52,201 --> 00:44:56,761
Speaker 2: a finished before I even got it.

1017
00:44:57,281 --> 00:44:59,681
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, everyone said try if they haven't done

1018
00:44:59,681 --> 00:45:01,121
Speaker 3: it before, Like you know, I'm not gonna asking you

1019
00:45:01,161 --> 00:45:03,001
Speaker 3: if you have or not whatever, but if you haven't

1020
00:45:03,041 --> 00:45:04,881
Speaker 3: done it before, you might be nervous. And that can

1021
00:45:04,921 --> 00:45:06,841
Speaker 3: go two ways, you know, can be over to start

1022
00:45:07,041 --> 00:45:09,321
Speaker 3: or not at all, and some of you will get

1023
00:45:09,361 --> 00:45:11,081
Speaker 3: nervous cold feet some people.

1024
00:45:11,681 --> 00:45:15,641
Speaker 1: Yeah, intimidates a lot of girls. You can. I don't

1025
00:45:15,761 --> 00:45:16,241
Speaker 1: think I do.

1026
00:45:16,321 --> 00:45:19,401
Speaker 3: Some people. It's actually quite funny is the younger ones

1027
00:45:19,401 --> 00:45:22,041
Speaker 3: that say I do, And I'm surprised by that foundness.

1028
00:45:22,041 --> 00:45:25,241
Speaker 2: But because you're because you're probably what would you say, yeah,

1029
00:45:25,761 --> 00:45:26,681
Speaker 2: would you say you're a milk?

1030
00:45:26,801 --> 00:45:26,841
Speaker 3: No?

1031
00:45:27,001 --> 00:45:28,401
Speaker 1: You hate that one.

1032
00:45:31,961 --> 00:45:32,401
Speaker 2: Years old.

1033
00:45:32,841 --> 00:45:34,321
Speaker 3: I think you're in a way like I'm probably more

1034
00:45:34,841 --> 00:45:38,041
Speaker 3: straight up nowhere. I guess girls their ages aren't, you know. Yeah,

1035
00:45:38,561 --> 00:45:41,121
Speaker 3: And I'm very honest open when people are saying me

1036
00:45:41,241 --> 00:45:43,601
Speaker 3: sex is easy to talk about and easy to do,

1037
00:45:43,721 --> 00:45:46,041
Speaker 3: so to speak that there's nothing to do and there's

1038
00:45:46,121 --> 00:45:49,321
Speaker 3: nothing sex is and dirty. So I'm so there's a

1039
00:45:49,401 --> 00:45:51,561
Speaker 3: conversations I can have with a client. It's different to

1040
00:45:51,601 --> 00:45:53,481
Speaker 3: what they can have with their partners. So I go

1041
00:45:53,601 --> 00:45:54,961
Speaker 3: straight and say, look, do you like this, this, this

1042
00:45:55,041 --> 00:45:55,921
Speaker 3: and this, and like.

1043
00:45:55,841 --> 00:45:59,401
Speaker 1: What you ask for? What I asked for? It depends

1044
00:45:59,481 --> 00:46:01,721
Speaker 1: are like what I put it this way?

1045
00:46:01,801 --> 00:46:03,561
Speaker 2: Do they come into the room now they see you

1046
00:46:03,801 --> 00:46:07,481
Speaker 2: like they they would get intimidated by by it.

1047
00:46:07,561 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: Normally it's the chief funk people like, you know, it's

1048
00:46:10,481 --> 00:46:15,281
Speaker 3: not boo, that's what it is. It's a boop, you know,

1049
00:46:15,401 --> 00:46:18,721
Speaker 3: Like that's normally that first stuff. I guess that people

1050
00:46:18,961 --> 00:46:21,761
Speaker 3: don't really ask for too much themselves.

1051
00:46:22,001 --> 00:46:24,401
Speaker 2: What's the most things you get? Like I know you're

1052
00:46:24,401 --> 00:46:25,681
Speaker 2: doing the full service and like that.

1053
00:46:25,801 --> 00:46:26,001
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1054
00:46:26,041 --> 00:46:28,081
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, is there anything that out there?

1055
00:46:28,081 --> 00:46:34,601
Speaker 3: They just go okay, yeah, you know you've got your

1056
00:46:34,641 --> 00:46:36,681
Speaker 3: normal clients ol, And I say, no, everyone's normal.

1057
00:46:36,721 --> 00:46:37,321
Speaker 1: Sex is normal.

1058
00:46:37,641 --> 00:46:39,121
Speaker 3: But you get a normal clients oele, which you know,

1059
00:46:39,441 --> 00:46:42,561
Speaker 3: your basic service so to speak. But then the overstepping

1060
00:46:42,561 --> 00:46:45,641
Speaker 3: of that as people with kinks, So you'd be surprised

1061
00:46:45,641 --> 00:46:47,921
Speaker 3: at people's kinks. There are a lot of men out

1062
00:46:47,921 --> 00:46:51,081
Speaker 3: there who want to be pegged a lot more than

1063
00:46:51,121 --> 00:46:54,121
Speaker 3: you think. So I'm actually surprised for the last year

1064
00:46:54,161 --> 00:46:58,001
Speaker 3: or two how much I get asked for that. Really, yes,

1065
00:46:58,241 --> 00:47:00,881
Speaker 3: And I'm talking of like you know, and do you

1066
00:47:01,241 --> 00:47:03,121
Speaker 3: bodybuilder type?

1067
00:47:03,561 --> 00:47:06,041
Speaker 1: Look, I used to do a lot back back in

1068
00:47:06,041 --> 00:47:06,401
Speaker 1: the day.

1069
00:47:09,521 --> 00:47:11,601
Speaker 3: I don't as much anymore now that I'm doing more

1070
00:47:11,641 --> 00:47:12,481
Speaker 3: the higher and stuff.

1071
00:47:12,561 --> 00:47:15,481
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Have you been asked to do anything out

1072
00:47:15,521 --> 00:47:17,121
Speaker 2: of the ordinary when you've got by climb?

1073
00:47:17,201 --> 00:47:20,241
Speaker 3: I guess, well, you know, describe about the ordinary? No,

1074
00:47:20,681 --> 00:47:22,681
Speaker 3: what would you what would you call out the ordinary?

1075
00:47:22,881 --> 00:47:25,201
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I'm saying is have they got the

1076
00:47:25,761 --> 00:47:28,561
Speaker 2: you say, you've got kinky males or like that, because

1077
00:47:28,601 --> 00:47:31,641
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of you know, fetishes, people who've

1078
00:47:31,681 --> 00:47:33,441
Speaker 2: worked in fetish and all like that. You know, do

1079
00:47:33,801 --> 00:47:35,881
Speaker 2: they say just spank me or do they say just

1080
00:47:36,001 --> 00:47:37,881
Speaker 2: you know? Can you can I tell you off? Can

1081
00:47:37,921 --> 00:47:39,121
Speaker 2: I fucking walk like a dog?

1082
00:47:39,201 --> 00:47:41,081
Speaker 1: And yeah? Is anything like that?

1083
00:47:41,201 --> 00:47:43,001
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got I've got a guy down here in

1084
00:47:43,361 --> 00:47:45,601
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't have had sex. He's been acquient about

1085
00:47:45,601 --> 00:47:49,041
Speaker 3: four years. I literally just get paid to use my

1086
00:47:49,081 --> 00:47:50,921
Speaker 3: stiletto and on his balls.

1087
00:47:52,801 --> 00:47:55,521
Speaker 1: Your stilettos on his balls? But do what like that?

1088
00:47:55,681 --> 00:47:58,361
Speaker 3: Which which bit the it's a bit like pain?

1089
00:47:58,641 --> 00:47:58,961
Speaker 2: Really?

1090
00:47:59,121 --> 00:47:59,321
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1091
00:47:59,921 --> 00:48:00,881
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

1092
00:48:01,081 --> 00:48:03,001
Speaker 3: For four years he's been getting done and we've never

1093
00:48:03,041 --> 00:48:03,961
Speaker 3: had sex, nothing at all.

1094
00:48:04,121 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: But what does that? Dude?

1095
00:48:05,361 --> 00:48:09,361
Speaker 3: Well, everyone's different. Everyone's sexual banditsies are different, like everyone

1096
00:48:09,401 --> 00:48:11,721
Speaker 3: has their different kinks of what turns them on.

1097
00:48:11,921 --> 00:48:13,881
Speaker 1: So are you there? Are you naked with him when

1098
00:48:13,881 --> 00:48:14,521
Speaker 1: you're doing this? Or no?

1099
00:48:14,681 --> 00:48:18,801
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm always wearing a dress and letters two

1100
00:48:18,841 --> 00:48:21,761
Speaker 3: hours two hours and boxing for two hour.

1101
00:48:23,441 --> 00:48:25,761
Speaker 1: He buys me in this letter around their children even better?

1102
00:48:25,841 --> 00:48:28,801
Speaker 1: Oh my, how m was she charged for that?

1103
00:48:28,801 --> 00:48:29,921
Speaker 3: That's so that's a role play.

1104
00:48:30,041 --> 00:48:31,801
Speaker 1: So a role player you've brought there with three or

1105
00:48:31,801 --> 00:48:34,241
Speaker 1: four k's with that? Yeah, three or four k's.

1106
00:48:34,241 --> 00:48:41,321
Speaker 2: The slamming on the balls with oh my god, wow.

1107
00:48:41,521 --> 00:48:44,241
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's a different said, it's a different genre,

1108
00:48:44,601 --> 00:48:46,041
Speaker 3: and it's not saying to it all the time. So

1109
00:48:46,281 --> 00:48:48,601
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm doing more of my other stuff now.

1110
00:48:48,921 --> 00:48:51,881
Speaker 3: But it's been like a progress along the way to

1111
00:48:52,001 --> 00:48:53,841
Speaker 3: kind of get to that that way.

1112
00:48:54,081 --> 00:48:55,521
Speaker 1: Is there ever a point where you've just gone, I've

1113
00:48:55,521 --> 00:48:56,161
Speaker 1: had enough now?

1114
00:48:57,561 --> 00:48:59,401
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think that's why I went more

1115
00:48:59,721 --> 00:49:03,441
Speaker 3: independently and more seeking more my longer and my dinner

1116
00:49:03,441 --> 00:49:06,041
Speaker 3: clients and so forth, because it does get not monotonous,

1117
00:49:06,041 --> 00:49:08,481
Speaker 3: but it does get you know, there's only so many

1118
00:49:08,481 --> 00:49:10,281
Speaker 3: times you hear the same thing that it can be

1119
00:49:10,281 --> 00:49:13,121
Speaker 3: a bit annoying. Now I love the fact that I

1120
00:49:13,121 --> 00:49:16,481
Speaker 3: can meet diferent people and you know, have connection with

1121
00:49:16,561 --> 00:49:18,961
Speaker 3: other people and have a bit of a life, because.

1122
00:49:18,841 --> 00:49:19,601
Speaker 1: Personally I don't.

1123
00:49:19,961 --> 00:49:22,481
Speaker 3: So it's for that reason I kind of still love it.

1124
00:49:22,881 --> 00:49:24,361
Speaker 2: The oldest guy you've evern't slept with.

1125
00:49:26,561 --> 00:49:30,441
Speaker 3: Look from before about doing a service. So back in

1126
00:49:30,441 --> 00:49:32,481
Speaker 3: the Bross days, I used to have two really good

1127
00:49:32,481 --> 00:49:34,841
Speaker 3: clients and one was from the older guy who wasn't

1128
00:49:35,081 --> 00:49:37,761
Speaker 3: like wheels old and it's his care is to put

1129
00:49:37,801 --> 00:49:40,641
Speaker 3: him on the bed right. But you know, if it

1130
00:49:40,681 --> 00:49:42,441
Speaker 3: wasn't for me or any other girls. He wouldn't be

1131
00:49:42,481 --> 00:49:46,601
Speaker 3: able to have serious And isn't that paid for that stuff?

1132
00:49:46,641 --> 00:49:46,801
Speaker 3: You know?

1133
00:49:46,801 --> 00:49:48,961
Speaker 1: I used to come in his wheelchair and his care

1134
00:49:49,001 --> 00:49:50,761
Speaker 1: and put him on the bed, and that care is

1135
00:49:50,841 --> 00:49:51,721
Speaker 1: way for until you've finish.

1136
00:49:51,881 --> 00:49:54,361
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's like but then that's all through the

1137
00:49:54,441 --> 00:49:56,681
Speaker 3: ndos and stuff, so they're actually paying for that service.

1138
00:49:56,721 --> 00:49:59,481
Speaker 3: So then in a way, it's like saying for like

1139
00:49:59,481 --> 00:50:02,801
Speaker 3: you're giving a service that is needed in a way.

1140
00:50:03,041 --> 00:50:04,401
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've never heard that.

1141
00:50:04,521 --> 00:50:06,441
Speaker 3: Yes, I guess my other one I had was great

1142
00:50:06,521 --> 00:50:08,641
Speaker 3: that he's autistic. I was a great It's one of

1143
00:50:08,721 --> 00:50:11,321
Speaker 3: my favorite ever clients. He is from when a very

1144
00:50:11,401 --> 00:50:14,241
Speaker 3: very very very first started on the Gold Coast. I

1145
00:50:14,321 --> 00:50:17,041
Speaker 3: used to wear a wonder Woman outfit and I said,

1146
00:50:17,161 --> 00:50:19,561
Speaker 3: jump on the bed and pull open the wonder Woman

1147
00:50:19,561 --> 00:50:20,681
Speaker 3: thing and I say.

1148
00:50:20,761 --> 00:50:22,601
Speaker 1: Oh, watch out, it's wonder Woman.

1149
00:50:22,841 --> 00:50:24,841
Speaker 3: And he used to make me repeat for like an

1150
00:50:24,841 --> 00:50:27,601
Speaker 3: hour and repeat and it was fun. It was like

1151
00:50:27,681 --> 00:50:30,441
Speaker 3: just a strip down and I have a boom on

1152
00:50:30,721 --> 00:50:33,841
Speaker 3: this fun and so those other things I love because

1153
00:50:33,881 --> 00:50:36,801
Speaker 3: I'm like that guy would never have that interaction normally.

1154
00:50:37,041 --> 00:50:38,681
Speaker 3: They're the kind of things in a way in this

1155
00:50:38,721 --> 00:50:40,081
Speaker 3: industry is good for it.

1156
00:50:40,601 --> 00:50:43,961
Speaker 1: If you were to do an or later, what do

1157
00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:44,761
Speaker 1: you charge for that?

1158
00:50:45,081 --> 00:50:47,201
Speaker 3: It starts and all night, and I take all night,

1159
00:50:47,241 --> 00:50:49,761
Speaker 3: and it starts at a minimum five K, and that's

1160
00:50:49,921 --> 00:50:52,521
Speaker 3: minimum mics for dinner and so forth, and then it

1161
00:50:52,561 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: goes up from there.

1162
00:50:53,801 --> 00:50:56,521
Speaker 2: So you're so evctually he's just paying five ks to

1163
00:50:56,521 --> 00:50:59,761
Speaker 2: come for dinner, hang out, but that's not overnight standard.

1164
00:50:59,801 --> 00:51:04,801
Speaker 1: Yeahs, make me help out.

1165
00:51:05,081 --> 00:51:09,321
Speaker 2: Remember say he wanted you to stay overnight.

1166
00:51:09,521 --> 00:51:11,041
Speaker 1: Yes, so would go up from there.

1167
00:51:11,281 --> 00:51:15,441
Speaker 3: So I drivers set fear for everything because no different clients.

1168
00:51:15,201 --> 00:51:15,961
Speaker 1: Fell for the person.

1169
00:51:17,441 --> 00:51:20,961
Speaker 2: Oh yes, besides a bouncer.

1170
00:51:25,521 --> 00:51:28,601
Speaker 3: So yes, in this industry, obviously it's hard to do

1171
00:51:28,881 --> 00:51:31,641
Speaker 3: both sides. I guess in a way I'll answer to

1172
00:51:31,801 --> 00:51:34,001
Speaker 3: answer to that question, why have ever felt for a client?

1173
00:51:34,281 --> 00:51:39,401
Speaker 3: You're asking that, yes, but only smalling. He smelled amazing,

1174
00:51:40,241 --> 00:51:42,161
Speaker 3: and every time he saw me, he just smelt amazing.

1175
00:51:42,241 --> 00:51:44,961
Speaker 3: And I got to stage where I was enjoying.

1176
00:51:44,681 --> 00:51:49,961
Speaker 2: The yes, because you like that smell, you started to

1177
00:51:50,041 --> 00:51:50,481
Speaker 2: enjoy it more.

1178
00:51:50,601 --> 00:51:56,401
Speaker 3: Yes, and you're still charging him, yes, But I did

1179
00:51:56,441 --> 00:51:58,121
Speaker 3: get the point where I was we're going to and

1180
00:51:58,161 --> 00:51:58,841
Speaker 3: that's real.

1181
00:51:59,241 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: That went that went through your mind?

1182
00:52:01,121 --> 00:52:01,961
Speaker 1: Did you or did you not?

1183
00:52:02,201 --> 00:52:04,721
Speaker 3: I mentioned it to him and he, you know, I

1184
00:52:04,801 --> 00:52:06,321
Speaker 3: just we had to pull it up then and there.

1185
00:52:06,601 --> 00:52:08,601
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is between you and I and

1186
00:52:08,641 --> 00:52:11,041
Speaker 3: it rose right now. I actually ran into him at

1187
00:52:11,121 --> 00:52:13,641
Speaker 3: my friend's restaurant after the Gold Coast about three or

1188
00:52:13,641 --> 00:52:15,561
Speaker 3: four weeks ago, just by a mistake. We walked past

1189
00:52:15,561 --> 00:52:18,081
Speaker 3: each other and I was like, oh, yeah, did you.

1190
00:52:18,081 --> 00:52:24,001
Speaker 2: Smell good then?

1191
00:52:23,841 --> 00:52:26,361
Speaker 3: But apart from that, and I've always kept I guess

1192
00:52:26,361 --> 00:52:29,921
Speaker 3: a bit of guard, so to speak, because realistically, this

1193
00:52:30,121 --> 00:52:33,841
Speaker 3: life is hard to have the other. And I'm yeah,

1194
00:52:33,841 --> 00:52:36,361
Speaker 3: I've stupidly made mistake for trying to have both and

1195
00:52:36,401 --> 00:52:37,801
Speaker 3: you can't. Yeah.

1196
00:52:38,561 --> 00:52:38,881
Speaker 2: Wow.

1197
00:52:39,961 --> 00:52:41,281
Speaker 1: And he put a stop to it when you.

1198
00:52:41,801 --> 00:52:44,441
Speaker 3: When I mentioned we both decided He's like, this is

1199
00:52:44,481 --> 00:52:45,961
Speaker 3: getting I was like, oh, yeah, probably are right.

1200
00:52:46,601 --> 00:52:48,641
Speaker 2: So he was looking at more of the film was

1201
00:52:48,681 --> 00:52:49,961
Speaker 2: going to be taken out here, Things are going to

1202
00:52:50,041 --> 00:52:50,521
Speaker 2: get serious.

1203
00:52:50,841 --> 00:52:52,521
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I guess he was coming there for that.

1204
00:52:53,721 --> 00:52:54,641
Speaker 3: So there's you know.

1205
00:52:54,641 --> 00:52:57,641
Speaker 2: That, and your family knows about this too. Your family knows.

1206
00:52:57,561 --> 00:52:59,721
Speaker 3: About yes, yes, so obviously in layman term, like you know,

1207
00:52:59,841 --> 00:53:02,121
Speaker 3: my kids are a bit small, but they know enough.

1208
00:53:02,441 --> 00:53:05,001
Speaker 3: I actually was nervous when I got nominated for the

1209
00:53:05,321 --> 00:53:06,081
Speaker 3: AT Awards.

1210
00:53:06,561 --> 00:53:08,241
Speaker 2: I thought, so, what are you up for for the

1211
00:53:08,281 --> 00:53:08,721
Speaker 2: adult one?

1212
00:53:08,801 --> 00:53:12,921
Speaker 3: I'm up for Australia's Best Churing Escort and Australia's Best

1213
00:53:12,921 --> 00:53:13,961
Speaker 3: Dinner Date Companion.

1214
00:53:16,081 --> 00:53:21,921
Speaker 4: Such a wow, Look because I won the Best Podcast list.

1215
00:53:22,001 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw this so with my with my daughter.

1216
00:53:25,441 --> 00:53:28,041
Speaker 3: I was nervous about her saying, you know, she's in

1217
00:53:28,041 --> 00:53:30,361
Speaker 3: the sham and stuff as well, and God bless us soul.

1218
00:53:30,401 --> 00:53:32,841
Speaker 3: I flew back up to tell her, so neverus all night.

1219
00:53:33,001 --> 00:53:35,201
Speaker 3: And when I told you I already know I pretady

1220
00:53:35,241 --> 00:53:38,081
Speaker 3: voted for you. Oh God bless her. So yeah, well

1221
00:53:38,201 --> 00:53:40,761
Speaker 3: everyone knows what I do in Layman's I guess.

1222
00:53:41,041 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. We talked about before about you know, situations you've

1223
00:53:44,441 --> 00:53:46,321
Speaker 2: been in where you're you know, have you ever been

1224
00:53:46,361 --> 00:53:47,961
Speaker 2: in something where you didn't want to be in with

1225
00:53:48,041 --> 00:53:51,201
Speaker 2: the person, But have you ever feared somebody when you've

1226
00:53:51,241 --> 00:53:52,441
Speaker 2: been in that room with them.

1227
00:53:52,641 --> 00:53:55,121
Speaker 1: That they could get ugly or they could be get

1228
00:53:55,201 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: violent with you if you never had come across that. Yeah.

1229
00:53:58,761 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: Look, I think I read a room little bit better

1230
00:54:01,561 --> 00:54:04,721
Speaker 3: these days, but I don't know how much I can

1231
00:54:04,761 --> 00:54:07,561
Speaker 3: say I do have an a bo in Melbourne against

1232
00:54:07,561 --> 00:54:12,641
Speaker 3: someone okay, yeah who went too far? Yeah yeah, it

1233
00:54:12,681 --> 00:54:14,681
Speaker 3: wasn't putt by me. The police at Crown actually put

1234
00:54:14,681 --> 00:54:17,481
Speaker 3: on him. It's quite intense. But yeah, other than that,

1235
00:54:17,601 --> 00:54:20,561
Speaker 3: I am, Yeah, I'm I've been pretty good at reading

1236
00:54:20,561 --> 00:54:22,721
Speaker 3: a room so to speak, where a living the goal

1237
00:54:22,801 --> 00:54:24,961
Speaker 3: perst is facet for recognition and stuff anyway, So I

1238
00:54:25,041 --> 00:54:27,081
Speaker 3: feel like I've got a safety of all of that.

1239
00:54:28,001 --> 00:54:31,361
Speaker 3: But it's never far from your mind though of something anyway.

1240
00:54:31,761 --> 00:54:34,001
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have you run into anybody who's been a

1241
00:54:34,041 --> 00:54:36,161
Speaker 2: client before in a situation where it's been a big

1242
00:54:36,601 --> 00:54:38,641
Speaker 2: oh shit, like they've been with their partners or anything

1243
00:54:38,761 --> 00:54:39,081
Speaker 2: like that.

1244
00:54:39,841 --> 00:54:42,641
Speaker 3: So yes, when I was not so open about what

1245
00:54:42,681 --> 00:54:45,881
Speaker 3: I did and I face for wise, i'd get nervous

1246
00:54:45,961 --> 00:54:48,521
Speaker 3: myself if I was going for dinners and people recognizing me.

1247
00:54:49,041 --> 00:54:50,961
Speaker 3: Now that I'm the opposite way, I don't really care.

1248
00:54:51,401 --> 00:54:53,801
Speaker 3: And the best part about that is now I know

1249
00:54:53,841 --> 00:54:54,321
Speaker 3: how to I just.

1250
00:54:54,281 --> 00:54:55,081
Speaker 2: Have a bit of a giggle.

1251
00:54:55,521 --> 00:54:56,001
Speaker 1: I giggle.

1252
00:54:56,401 --> 00:54:57,881
Speaker 3: I don't text for im like, you know, hey, I'm

1253
00:54:57,881 --> 00:55:01,561
Speaker 3: maybe here a you know, but yeah, I have a

1254
00:55:01,561 --> 00:55:03,241
Speaker 3: bit of a giggle, you know. And they're the funny

1255
00:55:03,281 --> 00:55:04,721
Speaker 3: ones so they'll text you the day it says, say

1256
00:55:04,761 --> 00:55:06,881
Speaker 3: I'm I saw you last night, thanks, not saying anything

1257
00:55:07,161 --> 00:55:08,681
Speaker 3: like what am I to do? I'm gonna walk come

1258
00:55:08,721 --> 00:55:12,201
Speaker 3: and say like, yes, that's quite funny in those scenarios.

1259
00:55:12,241 --> 00:55:14,921
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's the industry very bitchy.

1260
00:55:14,761 --> 00:55:15,521
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

1261
00:55:15,681 --> 00:55:16,241
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

1262
00:55:16,401 --> 00:55:19,481
Speaker 3: I think that's you know, half you want you to win,

1263
00:55:19,521 --> 00:55:21,801
Speaker 3: half of don't want you to win. Myself was very

1264
00:55:21,801 --> 00:55:24,961
Speaker 3: small in this industry completely anyway. I'm not sure if

1265
00:55:24,961 --> 00:55:27,001
Speaker 3: you know much about them. There's lots of WhatsApps groups

1266
00:55:27,001 --> 00:55:29,441
Speaker 3: and stuff for jobs of both so forth. I'm not

1267
00:55:29,481 --> 00:55:30,881
Speaker 3: lad in any of them. I'm not quite sure what

1268
00:55:30,961 --> 00:55:33,521
Speaker 3: I'm not allowed. Yeah, I know from them, No, I

1269
00:55:33,561 --> 00:55:36,681
Speaker 3: just don't get don't get invite. So I think some

1270
00:55:36,761 --> 00:55:40,081
Speaker 3: of us girls too clicky. So and that's fine. I

1271
00:55:40,201 --> 00:55:41,561
Speaker 3: like to try and work by myself anyway.

1272
00:55:42,641 --> 00:55:44,961
Speaker 2: But what we can buy yourself anyway privately, you wouldn't

1273
00:55:45,001 --> 00:55:46,281
Speaker 2: need to be an able.

1274
00:55:46,321 --> 00:55:48,641
Speaker 3: To know exactly, so you don't really need that whole

1275
00:55:49,361 --> 00:55:51,361
Speaker 3: other side of it anyway. And I think that's where

1276
00:55:51,401 --> 00:55:53,881
Speaker 3: the difference comes in. I guess of saying that before,

1277
00:55:53,921 --> 00:55:56,681
Speaker 3: like people they're jealous of this or that well they

1278
00:55:56,681 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 3: think you're doing better than you are or any things

1279
00:55:58,441 --> 00:56:00,841
Speaker 3: like that. So I think that's where that kind of

1280
00:56:01,121 --> 00:56:03,121
Speaker 3: kind of comes with there. But yeah, definitely it is.

1281
00:56:03,161 --> 00:56:04,641
Speaker 3: It's sad because I'm the O officer. I like to

1282
00:56:04,641 --> 00:56:07,121
Speaker 3: see so I'm like, you know, if I'm making money,

1283
00:56:07,121 --> 00:56:08,721
Speaker 3: I want you to make money, but not everyone's at

1284
00:56:08,761 --> 00:56:10,721
Speaker 3: the same mindsets.

1285
00:56:11,441 --> 00:56:14,201
Speaker 1: Yes or you have Yes? Were you just a part

1286
00:56:14,281 --> 00:56:14,601
Speaker 1: of it.

1287
00:56:14,521 --> 00:56:16,161
Speaker 3: There or you I've done a couple up on the

1288
00:56:16,161 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: Gold Coach in the mansion things up there, I've done them,

1289
00:56:18,441 --> 00:56:21,561
Speaker 3: and I've done other ones private parties where you know.

1290
00:56:21,561 --> 00:56:23,641
Speaker 1: I guess is that where you're invited down by the owner.

1291
00:56:23,721 --> 00:56:27,161
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and they're kind of you know, like I said,

1292
00:56:27,361 --> 00:56:29,281
Speaker 3: sex is fun and not to boo. So in a

1293
00:56:29,321 --> 00:56:31,881
Speaker 3: way it kind of opens up a different world of

1294
00:56:31,921 --> 00:56:34,561
Speaker 3: like seeing how everyone interacts, don't even do anything, can

1295
00:56:34,561 --> 00:56:36,601
Speaker 3: just be there or nothing that. Yeah, I've done a

1296
00:56:36,601 --> 00:56:38,961
Speaker 3: few of them, which I get invited a lost by

1297
00:56:38,961 --> 00:56:41,961
Speaker 3: clients now, but I don't go because.

1298
00:56:41,721 --> 00:56:44,201
Speaker 2: Okay, so you say you got invited by the owner

1299
00:56:44,241 --> 00:56:46,881
Speaker 2: of the place, is he paying you to go there? Yes,

1300
00:56:47,201 --> 00:56:49,361
Speaker 2: so you're paid. So even if you do have sex

1301
00:56:49,441 --> 00:56:50,561
Speaker 2: with somebody, you're paid.

1302
00:56:50,721 --> 00:56:51,401
Speaker 1: Yeah you can.

1303
00:56:51,761 --> 00:56:53,681
Speaker 3: But then there's other ones you can go to invited

1304
00:56:53,721 --> 00:56:56,041
Speaker 3: to go, you know, and there's once I've gone this

1305
00:56:56,121 --> 00:56:58,321
Speaker 3: my own is for pleasure, No, not for any other reason.

1306
00:56:58,801 --> 00:57:01,281
Speaker 3: Hot tip, do not go as a female on your own.

1307
00:57:01,601 --> 00:57:06,321
Speaker 3: The one the first moment with my own, I'm not.

1308
00:57:06,201 --> 00:57:18,081
Speaker 7: A good idea out like go, but no, it's it's now.

1309
00:57:18,121 --> 00:57:19,961
Speaker 3: I get invited by a client's a lot to go

1310
00:57:20,001 --> 00:57:21,841
Speaker 3: with them, but I don't go with them because to me,

1311
00:57:21,881 --> 00:57:23,521
Speaker 3: that's a little bit this is not my thing.

1312
00:57:24,081 --> 00:57:25,001
Speaker 2: What's your biggest regret?

1313
00:57:25,721 --> 00:57:25,921
Speaker 1: Oh?

1314
00:57:26,921 --> 00:57:27,241
Speaker 3: In what.

1315
00:57:28,841 --> 00:57:29,001
Speaker 2: Life?

1316
00:57:29,881 --> 00:57:32,641
Speaker 1: In life? Oh?

1317
00:57:34,601 --> 00:57:37,241
Speaker 3: Actually left me specious with that one right now, biggest,

1318
00:57:37,321 --> 00:57:42,201
Speaker 3: biggest regret, I think my biggest regret until now is

1319
00:57:43,001 --> 00:57:46,921
Speaker 3: putting other people before before me and my feelings to

1320
00:57:46,961 --> 00:57:49,801
Speaker 3: the point where it was is damaged and like self

1321
00:57:49,801 --> 00:57:52,321
Speaker 3: sabotage myself so to speak, in a way that probably

1322
00:57:52,401 --> 00:57:53,561
Speaker 3: my biggest regret is that.

1323
00:57:53,601 --> 00:57:55,881
Speaker 2: Would that go for the industry your biggest regret in

1324
00:57:55,881 --> 00:57:57,481
Speaker 2: the industry too, or if you got a different regret

1325
00:57:57,561 --> 00:57:58,641
Speaker 2: in the industry.

1326
00:57:58,681 --> 00:58:01,881
Speaker 3: For this industry, I wish I had done it more

1327
00:58:01,881 --> 00:58:02,721
Speaker 3: openly earlier.

1328
00:58:03,121 --> 00:58:04,561
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, I would have.

1329
00:58:04,601 --> 00:58:07,841
Speaker 3: I feel financial stuff, it's probably more fruitful with the

1330
00:58:07,921 --> 00:58:11,401
Speaker 3: last since last year, I believe I had it on earlier.

1331
00:58:11,401 --> 00:58:13,321
Speaker 3: It would have been better to come out and do

1332
00:58:13,321 --> 00:58:14,321
Speaker 3: it properly that way.

1333
00:58:14,521 --> 00:58:15,881
Speaker 2: You know when you said that when you were a

1334
00:58:15,881 --> 00:58:17,841
Speaker 2: stripper that you had a goal for that night and

1335
00:58:17,881 --> 00:58:19,681
Speaker 2: you have to you have to make that money. Yes,

1336
00:58:19,721 --> 00:58:21,241
Speaker 2: when you were in the brothel, what was your goal

1337
00:58:21,841 --> 00:58:23,081
Speaker 2: for that? To make money in that?

1338
00:58:23,201 --> 00:58:23,561
Speaker 1: You know what?

1339
00:58:23,841 --> 00:58:25,841
Speaker 3: There was never there was funny that because there wasn't

1340
00:58:25,921 --> 00:58:28,681
Speaker 3: really any set goal so to speak. With that For

1341
00:58:28,721 --> 00:58:31,961
Speaker 3: some reason, I think because I changed from when I

1342
00:58:31,961 --> 00:58:35,281
Speaker 3: was stripping that was like I was just started making money.

1343
00:58:35,681 --> 00:58:37,001
Speaker 1: Say, you didn't have to whustle.

1344
00:58:36,721 --> 00:58:39,641
Speaker 2: So much, And when you're in a brothel, Ah, did

1345
00:58:39,681 --> 00:58:41,121
Speaker 2: you have to hustle with the other girls to get that?

1346
00:58:42,041 --> 00:58:45,841
Speaker 3: When I worked to siletos here, Oh, it's about fifty girls,

1347
00:58:45,841 --> 00:58:48,161
Speaker 3: So you are hustling to get that client or so

1348
00:58:48,241 --> 00:58:50,681
Speaker 3: to speak. So you are hustling, but you also know

1349
00:58:50,681 --> 00:58:53,481
Speaker 3: you're making X amounts straight up, do you know what

1350
00:58:53,481 --> 00:58:55,641
Speaker 3: I mean? So it's you've got already got a figure

1351
00:58:55,641 --> 00:58:58,321
Speaker 3: already happening for the night. So yeah, I think that

1352
00:58:58,401 --> 00:59:00,801
Speaker 3: was the difference. How many brothels have you worked there,

1353
00:59:01,041 --> 00:59:03,681
Speaker 3: So I've done yeah, Celetars, Yeah, and I've done up

1354
00:59:03,721 --> 00:59:06,801
Speaker 3: on the Gold Coast as well and Gotham in Melbourne.

1355
00:59:07,121 --> 00:59:07,401
Speaker 2: Wow.

1356
00:59:07,641 --> 00:59:10,001
Speaker 1: Okay, And when was it that you went you want

1357
00:59:10,041 --> 00:59:11,081
Speaker 1: to go solo?

1358
00:59:11,321 --> 00:59:14,281
Speaker 3: I think when I realized through other girls that there

1359
00:59:14,321 --> 00:59:17,681
Speaker 3: was money being made privately. But a lot of girls

1360
00:59:17,681 --> 00:59:19,241
Speaker 3: don't want to do it because you know it has

1361
00:59:19,281 --> 00:59:21,801
Speaker 3: its risks. Obviously, you know there's agency and the stuff

1362
00:59:21,801 --> 00:59:23,561
Speaker 3: you can use as well, but it has its risk

1363
00:59:23,601 --> 00:59:26,961
Speaker 3: as well. And I think until you become a aware

1364
00:59:27,241 --> 00:59:30,081
Speaker 3: of your surroundings and be sexually aware of yourself and

1365
00:59:30,121 --> 00:59:32,121
Speaker 3: what your boundaries are, because that's what about before, Like

1366
00:59:32,201 --> 00:59:35,201
Speaker 3: it's easy to be you know something, give extra money,

1367
00:59:35,321 --> 00:59:37,401
Speaker 3: don't want to do. So when you become all that

1368
00:59:37,561 --> 00:59:39,961
Speaker 3: sexually aware and stuff, you become a little bit more.

1369
00:59:40,121 --> 00:59:43,161
Speaker 3: I guess Abradoor and it's kind of been likething I

1370
00:59:43,161 --> 00:59:45,681
Speaker 3: would never go back to, Like I'm really yeah, this

1371
00:59:45,841 --> 00:59:46,161
Speaker 3: is pro.

1372
00:59:46,161 --> 00:59:48,081
Speaker 1: The bad way for me. Do you ever fake it?

1373
00:59:49,081 --> 00:59:54,681
Speaker 1: Of course, Jesus, I have to ask, Look, yeah, you do.

1374
00:59:54,961 --> 00:59:57,001
Speaker 3: You have to do sometimes, Like if anyone's listening this,

1375
00:59:57,041 --> 00:59:57,801
Speaker 3: I don't fake we do.

1376
01:00:01,721 --> 01:00:04,041
Speaker 1: Of course, some you know like it if you get

1377
01:00:04,121 --> 01:00:06,601
Speaker 1: bored like on some like it's just like going on

1378
01:00:06,681 --> 01:00:07,321
Speaker 1: too long or they're not.

1379
01:00:07,801 --> 01:00:10,161
Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm pretty lucky with people, have got anywhere,

1380
01:00:10,161 --> 01:00:11,681
Speaker 3: and I have good beds with people. I try and

1381
01:00:11,681 --> 01:00:14,001
Speaker 3: make it fun. You know, things are fun anyway, like

1382
01:00:14,441 --> 01:00:16,921
Speaker 3: fun and happy and rather have a laugh about it,

1383
01:00:16,961 --> 01:00:19,321
Speaker 3: you know, Like but yeah, if they're annoying the craft

1384
01:00:19,321 --> 01:00:22,721
Speaker 3: out of me, like I'm like, okay, yeah, there's there's

1385
01:00:22,721 --> 01:00:23,121
Speaker 3: a routine.

1386
01:00:23,161 --> 01:00:27,361
Speaker 1: Let's say that. What would you just grab yourself in

1387
01:00:27,361 --> 01:00:30,281
Speaker 1: one word? Oh, one word?

1388
01:00:30,361 --> 01:00:33,561
Speaker 2: We can give you two if you want to, but

1389
01:00:33,561 --> 01:00:36,401
Speaker 2: but you can go. Let's get one word.

1390
01:00:36,481 --> 01:00:40,801
Speaker 3: I would say transparent. I just yeah, I think what

1391
01:00:40,841 --> 01:00:42,321
Speaker 3: you see is what you get with me. Now you

1392
01:00:42,361 --> 01:00:43,961
Speaker 3: didn't you never used to. I used to have a

1393
01:00:44,001 --> 01:00:46,081
Speaker 3: beer start up and now you don't. And now it's

1394
01:00:46,121 --> 01:00:47,081
Speaker 3: what you see is what you get.

1395
01:00:47,521 --> 01:00:47,761
Speaker 5: Wow.

1396
01:00:48,721 --> 01:00:51,161
Speaker 2: Well before we go, and I'll say thank you for coming.

1397
01:00:52,161 --> 01:00:54,481
Speaker 2: And as I said before, like that if you walked in,

1398
01:00:54,761 --> 01:00:55,761
Speaker 2: there's a presence about you.

1399
01:00:55,921 --> 01:00:57,801
Speaker 1: Okay, So how fucking big are.

1400
01:00:57,641 --> 01:01:01,281
Speaker 3: They Well they're now fourteen one hundred CC's so they're

1401
01:01:01,321 --> 01:01:01,721
Speaker 3: like an.

1402
01:01:01,561 --> 01:01:05,041
Speaker 2: Eight h I went with the g's I actually used

1403
01:01:05,081 --> 01:01:09,761
Speaker 2: and no, yeah.

1404
01:01:08,041 --> 01:01:11,001
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. So what and you're getting them redone.

1405
01:01:10,681 --> 01:01:13,361
Speaker 3: Yes, in August, I'm going to two thousand, And what.

1406
01:01:13,601 --> 01:01:14,521
Speaker 1: Are they going to be then?

1407
01:01:15,081 --> 01:01:16,881
Speaker 3: We mean don't know, We don't don't know what size

1408
01:01:16,881 --> 01:01:19,721
Speaker 3: they'll be till you actually you want bigger? Yeah, so

1409
01:01:19,721 --> 01:01:21,921
Speaker 3: I've got fourteen hundreds. Now we're going to two thousand.

1410
01:01:22,281 --> 01:01:23,481
Speaker 1: Why do you want bigger? Tell me?

1411
01:01:23,521 --> 01:01:24,001
Speaker 2: Why?

1412
01:01:24,321 --> 01:01:25,641
Speaker 1: Why not? They're fucking massive?

1413
01:01:25,761 --> 01:01:26,241
Speaker 3: Why not?

1414
01:01:26,681 --> 01:01:32,041
Speaker 4: You knows you can't really hide them.

1415
01:01:32,161 --> 01:01:32,521
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1416
01:01:33,081 --> 01:01:34,841
Speaker 2: Does clientele like that more?

1417
01:01:35,081 --> 01:01:38,041
Speaker 3: Some some doing, some don't, some know, some don't, And

1418
01:01:38,121 --> 01:01:41,441
Speaker 3: I guess I guess quickly I'll say about that is

1419
01:01:41,441 --> 01:01:43,921
Speaker 3: that now I'm in a stage where now, like I

1420
01:01:43,961 --> 01:01:46,041
Speaker 3: know I'm not going to find love whatever, Like I'm like,

1421
01:01:46,481 --> 01:01:48,561
Speaker 3: I've tried and not work with this industry and so

1422
01:01:48,641 --> 01:01:50,161
Speaker 3: for me, it's like now just live my life for

1423
01:01:50,281 --> 01:01:52,841
Speaker 3: me and this is what makes me happy.

1424
01:01:53,001 --> 01:01:55,441
Speaker 1: So, but are you happy with them? Do you know

1425
01:01:55,481 --> 01:01:56,041
Speaker 1: what I have?

1426
01:01:56,321 --> 01:01:58,841
Speaker 3: I have? I have boot breed that actually they feel

1427
01:01:58,841 --> 01:02:00,441
Speaker 3: like they're seesed now like since I've had them, because

1428
01:02:00,441 --> 01:02:00,961
Speaker 3: you've haven't.

1429
01:02:00,801 --> 01:02:04,321
Speaker 2: For so yeah, you use them? Yeah, Wow, I.

1430
01:02:04,241 --> 01:02:06,001
Speaker 3: Guess that's a little bit. It's walking from all our

1431
01:02:06,081 --> 01:02:06,681
Speaker 3: all of our ways.

1432
01:02:06,801 --> 01:02:07,601
Speaker 1: It in a way, isn't it.

1433
01:02:08,401 --> 01:02:09,841
Speaker 2: Well that's that's the same thing for me, I think,

1434
01:02:09,881 --> 01:02:11,281
Speaker 2: I look yeah.

1435
01:02:11,121 --> 01:02:11,961
Speaker 1: Exactly the same thing.

1436
01:02:12,121 --> 01:02:17,081
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well, thank you for coming on, Haley.

1437
01:02:16,601 --> 01:02:22,441
Speaker 1: A blessing and a fucking great chat. I'm scarring for you. Yes,

1438
01:02:22,521 --> 01:02:25,881
Speaker 1: it has been looked at in the in the same way.

1439
01:02:26,161 --> 01:02:27,961
Speaker 1: If anyone wants a walking let me know.

1440
01:02:29,681 --> 01:02:31,921
Speaker 2: But thank you for coming on. It was great and time.

1441
01:02:32,201 --> 01:02:32,881
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

1442
01:02:33,241 --> 01:02:35,881
Speaker 3: Let me you know, be transparent out there and yeah,

1443
01:02:36,401 --> 01:02:37,321
Speaker 3: have a chat about it all.

1444
01:02:37,801 --> 01:02:38,601
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.