WEBVTT - Alastair Lynch - The 10 year deal 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:09.040 I was in that mental state where I was going 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.040 to have tests done, hoping I had a positive test. 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:12.760 I was going to. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.800 Scans brain scans, I was hoping. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.840 I had cancer. It's ridiculous that was a state of mind. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.000 I'm John Ralph and I'm Glenn McFarlane. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.280 Welcome to Sacked, a podcast that explores what really happens 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.200 when the ax falls in the AFL world. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:28.960 Will take you behind the scenes with some of the 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:29.760 biggest names in. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.280 Football and find out how they found out, how time 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.000 was up and who pulled the trigger. Sacked AFL is 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.840 made possible with the support of subscribers to The Herald Sun. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.080 To find out more, go to Herald Sun dot com 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.559 dot au or download the Herald Sun app at your 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:43.920 app store today. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.720 The ten year deal with Alistair Lynch. The dire state 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.440 of affairs that was Fitzroy in the mid nineteen nineties 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.160 is hard to fathom in this billion dollar AFL era, 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.720 but Alistair Lynch was right in the middle of it. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.040 A kid from Tatty who became. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.960 A bankable star with his own fan club, Lynch broke 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.679 Roy's fans hearts when as the best in Farrest and 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:05.360 all Australian. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:07.480 He shocked No. One by signing it. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.319 Then ten year, two million dollar deal with the Brisbane Bears. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.880 The greatest irony was to come three years later, when 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.240 his past and present merged and Lynch was too unwell 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.600 to become a significant part of it. And yet his 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.600 story was still not done. The third chapter of an 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.960 extraordinary league football journey featured three premierships and one of 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.920 the more brutal and out of character full stops a 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:32.320 footy career has had. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:33.280 Alista Lynch. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.520 We've lured you under false pretenses because this podcast is 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.399 called Sacked, and I don't think you've technically ever been 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:40.640 sacked well wherever. 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.640 That concerns me greatly. Now I'm concerned you work in 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.360 at Fox. Maybe you know something I don't know. I'm 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.440 about to get the CoCN. But no, I don't think 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.320 I've been sacked as yet. So we'll see how it goes. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:54.280 But no, good to be along. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.720 So what an amazing career. So I called you up. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.680 I said, there's no controversies that you dropped the ze bomb. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.680 Accidentally, not the sea bomb that was Jared was the 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:04.640 f bomby. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.560 Sorry, let's be very specifical about that. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.320 And lets be serious, it wasn't My f bomb was 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.280 more dirm. It's contorted face looking at me and not 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:15.000 giving me anything. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.440 We'll get to that era and you through a few homemakers. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.280 But but apart from that, it's a career of just 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.160 extraordinary and unrivaled achievement. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:23.160 You must be so proud of it. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.000 Yeah, it's when you well, you don't reflect too much. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.799 But I'm supposed to have opportunities like this and you think, oh, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.840 it was pretty amazing, It wasn't. It wasn't a smooth 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:34.680 like so many journeys. I suppose it wasn't just a 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.160 smooth run to success. There was ups and downs throughout, 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.840 whether it be personally or as a club or as 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:45.200 a family. But I suppose that's what makes the special 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.200 moments so great. I would have thought, and I think 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.080 you look at the two main groups that I was 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.160 involved with sort of Fitzroy as a young kid and 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:59.600 been adopted in by that group. We're very tight, and 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.200 then the is the obvious tight group on the back 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.080 of premierships at the Brisbane lines as well. So extremely 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.120 fortunate to have experienced all that. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.120 I mean, you're into TV wherever I hate you. No, 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.680 We're pretty good. Is a pretty good camaraderie at Fox 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:13.000 as well. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.080 Just in terms of where you're brought up, Lincha, it 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.760 was a Bernie you spent You're basically brought up in 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.160 Bernie and that and tell us a bit. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:20.320 About your family background there. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:25.240 So born in Bernie pretty much early years were Bernie. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:32.080 Probably primary school was Wind just fifteen minutes drive. And 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:37.520 sort of left school so when you're primary Sunset Primary, 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.080 Bernie High School with a stint at St. Pats in 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.839 Lon system that his parents went their separate ways, sort 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.720 of went to Lone system for a year as well, 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:51.360 and then sort of got to year eleven halfway through 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.920 year eleven at Hellier College in Bernie, and just felt 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.960 that I was an overly academic and probably didn't work 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:02.600 hard like those typical male report cards. If he applies himself, Okay, 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.920 I did meet with him, and so I dropped out 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.600 of school halfway through year eleven and went and worked 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.680 down the west coast of Tazzy on the King River scheme, 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.160 which is a hydro electric skinner down there where they 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.000 were building a dam site. So I went in playing 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.640 footy there, I thought, rather than travel up of a 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.160 weekend and go play for wind under nine eighty. The 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.760 year before i'd played for the winning under seventeen team, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.560 and I thought, rather than do that, I'll actually sign 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.919 with one of the Queenstown teams. Now there's two teams 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.400 in Queenstown and that in that time there's a Queenstown 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.119 footy club and there was the Lyell Gormanston Football Club. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.120 So they both played out of the Queenstown over on 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:41.640 the gravel. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:42.160 The gravel. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.919 If people haven't seen the gravel, got a google the gravel. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.880 I've seen it. It is literally, yeah, what's gravel? 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.840 Yeah, but the gravel is the best place to land 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.440 if you're going up because there's gravel, there's a concrete 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.480 wicket in the middle and there's an ashvielt by tracker 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:58.719 aund the outside. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:04:59.960 So I went. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.200 So I worked with a couple of guys that played 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.359 with Lyle Gormy in and so I went to training 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:06.840 a couple of times and I thought, you know what, 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.920 I'm just going to stay down here, play basketball during 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.760 the week with my mates from work, play footy of 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.720 the weekend, rather than traveling the two and a half 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.960 hours back to the coast every weekend. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:19.880 And so I actually signed a form. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.200 I signed a contract with Lyle Gormanston Football Club and 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.960 I reckon before the season started a couple of weeks 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.120 training in, the coach actually said to me, look, we 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.200 just recommend maybe it's best you go back to Winyard 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:37.120 and play with the wind nineties. I think he identified. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:41.280 I was petrified, so he's actually there you go. You 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:47.839 got to Actually he does claim, and I'll allow him this. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.000 He does claim he thought it was the best for 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.760 my development, and I think I felt it was the 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:54.640 best for my life. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.440 So West Coast of tazzy hydro scheme. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.040 These days you'd be getting a scholarship to Scotch College. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.320 That would have been what would he doing? That would 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:03.919 be pretty rugged. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:05.040 I was pretty rugged. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:10.400 I lived in a single man's quarters, so just watch TV, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.600 have a few beers afterwards, and he played with the 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.640 basketball just to keep you busy during the week as well. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.640 That was that was great experience. So I finished from 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.080 there and went back to the Northwest Coast and. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.400 I picked up a job. 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.479 Feeding wet veneer sheets into a dryer and on night shift, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.200 so I was doing that as well, and I think 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.680 I think Dad identified after about three months. There was 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.640 probably an idea to try to get me somewhere else 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.240 to probably put my head down. I was probably mixing 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.600 with the older blokes. Yeah, I was probably, I mean, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.520 not a rat bag, but I was doing job. Yeah, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.560 I was doing kid things, I suppose. And so he 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:53.520 rang one of his great mates that he played state 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:58.560 junior football with, Peter Hudson, and I had just taken 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.040 the job with Hobart Footy club. And he rang and said, 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.720 and I think loves his story. He tells his story 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.760 that my dad, my dad was a good local footballer 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.840 five foot ten and Dad's rung had and said, I've 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.480 got my son. He's sixteen, wants to come down the Hobarton. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:22.040 I was thinking another one, a little nuggety five. He 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.000 is pricked up when he said he's six foot four 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.120 and runs okay, he said, yah, then you come. So yeah, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:30.120 that was the handover. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.400 And he's a hard bugger haddo as we know. Was 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:36.520 he particularly hard on you as well? Oh yeah, I 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.160 mean he was great, superstar, but it could be hard. 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.920 Fans is great for me from the day I arrive 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:48.000 to now seeing Hoday tonight. He's a great friend mentor 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.840 the whole family is. But yeah, some of the training 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.800 we'd have a skool session. Basically the difference between our 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.560 running sessions and the school session was would carry a 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:01.960 football in our running session, blood like after after training, 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.680 and again I'm so fortunate that I had this investment 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.840 from a guy like Peter Hudson. After training, i'd have 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.400 either huddle or one of the trainers just kicked the 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.240 ball at me and I have to I think, you know, yeah, 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.280 mine goes sometimes. I think it was I had marked 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.640 one hundred in a row before I went in really 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.600 on you, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. I remember ringing Dad saying, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.400 I'm coming home really like this. And so at the 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.920 TCA and Hobart up there, it would be sleety snow 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.120 coming across the ground and I'd be having to take 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.000 one hundred straight before I get up, before I get 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.800 off the track. So I can't remember, but I remember 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.360 there was a few I got late and starting to 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:48.200 start again. But so Huddo and with Huddo's connections, I remember, 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.560 and I think Kevin Sheety sent over Paul Salmon to 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.320 train with Huddo one night, so I Salmon their training. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.240 He was the young superstar in the VFL at the time. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.680 And then one night at training, had I got Roy's 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.280 heart to come down and do marking with me and 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.400 what age for you? Then seventeen? Wow, and I'm thinking, 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.280 how good. And I wasn't a massive footy head, but 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.040 you know who Peter Hartson and Roy's harder, and so 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:19.040 I distinctly remember this one of the few things I 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.959 remember clearly at the top end of the TCA there 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.880 with Peter Hudson kicking the ball up to Roy's heart 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.000 teach me how to jump on a pack, and I'm thinking, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.400 this is fantastic, this is good. And I was a 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.160 boy hit me in the face a few times I 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.360 reckon as well, but it was just great experience. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.600 And in a few months before, as you know Glenn's 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.559 amazing research, you'd been drinking and turning around way too 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.960 fast in your dilapidated form Corolla, so you know you 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.679 were doing that stuff and all of a sudden You're like, no, I'd. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:46.600 Like to be of VFL footballer. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.679 Yeah, And I don't know whether it was I wanted 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.200 to change that was and the Corolla station wagon I 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.880 was driving to work because you leave Winyard early, so 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.840 you leave when you'd at four point thirty and head 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.200 head west and during the winter it was obviously pretty icy, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.199 dangerous conditions, and yeah, put the station wagon into the 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:11.320 war Mount Black, probably going a little bit quick, and yeah, 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.199 that shook me up a bit, and so rebuilt that car, 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:16.840 mate and I rebuilt it. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.280 It was a white station wagon. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.240 We put an orange bonnet and orange front left pandel 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.280 on it. And I think we missed a few bits. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.760 I reckond because it didn't go too well after that. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:31.640 But that period and with Dad suggesting let's go play footy, 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.720 and if I was okay at footy, I was more 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.160 the athlete rather than the footballer, and I thought, oh, 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.120 that's a good opportunity. So I worked as an underage 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.520 barm and at Harda's Pub out of the Granada Tavern. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:46.960 But it was just great life experiences. It was good, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.040 and yeah, I had someone and you probably on reflection, 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.920 we'll probably all do this. You don't listen to your 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.920 dad enough, But if you've got another big man who's 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:58.760 a friend of dad's, you probably listened to him more. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.520 So made your life in a lot of ways, of 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.000 your life really in a sense, didn't it. 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:08.160 I think I think I worked reasonably hard. But I 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.000 was so lucky. I was so lucky that you know, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:16.560 Dad saw enough or had the relationship with Huddo. It's 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.800 about a hand over to Huddo and Huddo to feel 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.760 invested enough to push me hard. I wasn't just a 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.440 normal football at Hobart. I was almost like one of 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.640 his sons or a nephew or something like that. So 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.400 he pushed me hard, and then you know, jumping ahead, 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.959 he sort of handed me over to David park And 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.040 at fitz Roy, and so there was that sort of 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:41.480 investment where Parko took on that role. So I was 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:46.600 extremely fortunate the passion of a. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.200 Robert Shaw as a coach. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.880 Right through my playing days, I had some great coaches 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.360 that were that were invested in their players, and I 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.560 was probably fortunate that they took an interest in me. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.200 What was it like when you first ware to fitz Roy. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.360 There's a huge dames there, a lot of really good 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.360 young players Roosy and Osband and Perty, and then you've 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.880 got the older blakes like Mickey Conlin and those sort 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.040 of it. What's it like walking into that sort of environment. 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.559 I was great, You're sort of pinching yourself, just training 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.720 every night and called ross lyon too. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:14.400 Ross Lyn. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:19.760 Ross Lyn was was fantastic for me and has always 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.800 been a great friend through those times. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:24.840 We'll take us through this way. I don't know whether 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.199 this is true or not. Your first goal was a 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:27.559 drop kick goal? Is that true? 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:28.160 That's true. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.360 That's an amazing deliberate Was it a soccer background or 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:36.040 as an idiot at the Western Oval? The Western You've 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.280 got to lift out there. I think with Mick Gail 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:39.640 was it. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.800 So we lived together, so there was so I think 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.240 first game of the year. So there was Michael Gaile, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:53.959 Matthew Armstrong, Darren Kappler. I'm not sure Brendan Gaale might 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.800 have lived with us at that time as well. But anyway, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.959 we've so we've first first game there in the one. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.880 I'm in the twos. That's Princess Park. I borrowed Butcher's cab. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:08.280 Michael Gay was old Kingswood, got lost, got a arrived 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.720 to the Princess Park late, got a cook from Flee 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.680 Wilson and said yeah, started on the bench. He softened 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.360 over the next ten minutes and I was right to play. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.079 But I think the next week I got my first 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.640 game and it was great. We're all taken off from 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.200 the Kingswood down to whitten Ova West Noval and I 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.120 started on the pine as and in those days that's 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.480 where you stayed until someone was playing bad or injured. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.120 I got on halfway through the first quarter, I think 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.560 it was, and I think my first kick was sort 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:40.839 of on the half four flame and I was just 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.720 skied one, almost a typical kick for me, Scott, so 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.720 that was nothing, and I certainly didn't hit the target. 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.440 And Leon Harris, he grabbed the ball, must have been 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.160 twenty meters out or something like that, run towards goal 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:58.520 and I've come running screaming past i think Helies and 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.440 being a good teammate, he handbled the ball to me 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.960 and for some reason I kicked the dropkicks. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.000 So I just dropped kicked a little dart. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:08.840 Running in twenty minutes out from goal. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.760 Yeah, And there was became a bit of a habit 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.800 over those next three four or five years. So if 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.760 it was anywhere near the goal square, I was kicking dropkicks. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:22.400 So adding games in your first year, ten goals in 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:23.440 your first four games. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:24.000 Eighty nine. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.960 Rodster takes over as coach, so you start forward in 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.800 round three, but you've got to go back after Gary 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.640 Purtin poorus get injured. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.000 What happened then, well, yeah. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:36.920 That was now. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.880 So that was the game against Sekuila out of Waverley, 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:44.120 and I think I think I'd kicked two or three 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.960 goals and so again I was mostly playing half four 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.040 flank and my first game was half four flank and 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.720 then got to this stage in my career, I still 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:56.080 floating around the half forward line with mainly Richard Osbon 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.960 and Roozy sometimes was coming forward. But I think i'd 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.400 kicked early in the third. I think i'd kicked my 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.040 second or third and was going okay for me, and 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.120 nigan As was saying, you don't get taken off the 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.880 ground for rotations. You get taken off because you're playing poorly. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.480 Plugger at the other end of the ground had just 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.760 taken a big pack mark and they kicked his eighth 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.880 or ninth or seventh or something like that. He was 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:26.040 putting on a clinic and so especially in you early, 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.240 you're just thinking, well, at least I'm going all right, 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.880 And then the run I came out and I thought 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:33.520 it was going to pat me on the back for 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:38.560 going all right, and he said you're off what I'm 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.920 going okay for once and he said, no, you're off 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.040 the ground, and the coach wants to speak to you. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.320 So I thought she wouldn't mind speaking to him actually too, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:50.640 so I've grabbed the phone. I don't know whether I 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.600 spoke to Rod Austin or whether it was Robert Shaw 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.360 as the reserves coach, but I spoke to one of 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:01.000 them and they said, sit down, getting pretty off. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:02.120 You're going to fall. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.160 Back and those blocks have just been beaten. They hadn't 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:05.360 been injured, pologies yet. 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.440 And they and like Perty is the best fullback in 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:14.280 the game and Victorian full back and just plug was 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.040 at the peak of his powers, and they said sit down, 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:21.000 you're going on the Plugger and I felt violently ill. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.240 I'm a skinny kid just trying to get a kick. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.880 He's a man, mountain and nasty. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:36.120 Not overly enamored with humans. At that time, he wasn't 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:36.400 a fan. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:42.000 I genuinely wanted to hurt people, and even my brief 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.120 time in the VFL, I'm thinking, no, he doesn't like people, 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:50.880 and so they sending me out there and I'm seriously thinking, well, 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.160 I'm genuinely scared, and I'm thinking, I've just got to 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.480 survive this game. I reckon I can get another game 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.000 next week at half forward, but I've just got to survive. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:04.119 And so I adopted the tactic of planning from about 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:09.200 three meters behind and thought I was always fairly quick. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.800 Now Plugger was quick as well, but I thought, well, 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.560 I'm better off surviving and living to tell a story. 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.720 So I played him for two or three meters behind 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.760 and just felt, hopefully, if there's enough pressure on the 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.679 ball up there, I'll have the speed to get in 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:25.000 and spoil. And there must have been a lot of pressure. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.240 I was able to spoil a couple and he didn't 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.600 kick any more goals in that game, and that stuff 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.359 that sent full back for the next next few years, 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:36.600 which was which was great. 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.800 So yeah, that was a that was a memory. Yeah, 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:40.560 it's still. 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.679 Well and truly act he had a big relationship with Plugger. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.639 You played on him a fair bit and Jason Dunstall 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.320 as well later on. Just tell us about that Mark 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:52.080 of the year, Roughie. You've seen it. It's a sensational 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.119 kick on Maddie Rendell. You know, I think Stroops is 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.520 in it and Rosy and Ben Buckley and Johnny law 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.520 is in that sort of sort. 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.880 Of the Sydneys one's coach. I think I was right 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:02.720 on top of of course. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.359 Yeah it's on long mind. Tell us about that. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.879 Randall hops it back in front of God, here's danger. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.680 But let at the top of the pack. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:12.919 I don't know. 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.399 It was just one of those ones. So and if 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.919 people will have a look at the vision and we 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.800 and even at us as commentators, we talk about the 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.920 condition of some grounds. So eighty nine, you'd remember eighty 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.879 nine the grounds were rolled mud. The MCG where this 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.960 mark was taken was absolutely rolled mud. I remember playing 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.880 at Princess Park. We kicked one goal one day because 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.520 it was just that muddy was hard to score. But yeah, 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:43.040 I can't remember. I reckon, I reckon. I was playing 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:48.119 forward and on Law and I reckon. I've just I 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.240 just went to jump at this pack and I reckon. 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.399 John gave me a push and yeah, it was just 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.119 one of those things. I sat on top of the 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:02.800 pack and yeah, somehow it's stuck on my chest and 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.440 I got nice cushion into the ground, so I didn't 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:07.160 hurt myself either. 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.240 So that was beautiful. That this dismount would have worked 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.600 as well because it was you're up high, but it wasn't. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.560 It wasn't extraordinary, but it was just beautiful, fumbling, bumbling, 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:16.479 stumbling dismount. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.359 Well, I think you've got to if you're going to 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.439 secure a mark of the year, you can't land on 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:20.959 your feet. 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.439 I reckon, You've got to make it a little bit awkward. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.880 So Touches goes for Lynch, gets him. Where's he playing? 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:28.120 Don? 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:28.840 In the runner? 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:29.120 Ruck? 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:33.040 Lynch at fifty meters is a thumping kick? 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.000 Could he kick it? Could he kick at captain's goal? 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.280 Len's back girls kicks off scores a level. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:43.520 When Brisbane came to you and when did they come 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:44.479 to you? During that season? 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:50.359 I feel it was probably mid year, imagine it was. 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:55.679 There was an approach from Scott Clayton X teammate at 0:19:55.680 --> 0:20:00.600