1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: On Scorn Loves Australia. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. Coming 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 3: up tonight, will Peter Dutton rediscover his voice mojo as 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 3: the Liberals lose momentum and the lead up to the 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 3: federal election. Adam Crichton will be here to discuss that 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 3: and plenty more. Kosher Gator will have the latest on 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: the tariffs as the EU seeks to negotiate a fresh 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: deal with the White House. Alex Stein will have the 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 3: latest from the US, including shopping revelations about the trans 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: national school shooter, and later in the hour, Colleen Parkin 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: will join me to discuss some of the radical racial 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: politics infecting Australian universities and will play your audio of 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 3: a University of Queensland law lecturer for rating first year 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: students and left he's losing It features this anti trumper 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: wanting to know who's going to pay for her therapy. 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: So here's what I want to know as an American 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: for this repeated trauma that I'm going through and the 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: rest of the world, to be quite honest, asking for 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: the world, who do we send our therapy bill to. 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: But first we'll start with the fallout from Donald Trump's 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: tariff strategy and thanks to Labour's reckless economic mismanagement over 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: the last three years, Australia may have to face the 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: recession while in a weak fiscal position. The economic term 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: all in recent days saw more than one hundred billion 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: white from the ASEX two hundred on Monday, and the 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: Australian dollar dropped under sixty US cents for the first 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 3: time since April twenty twenty. But it's not all bad news. 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: In fact, mortgage holders are set to benefit from the tariffs, 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: with a seventy percent chance of a fifty basis point 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: rate cut in May that will certainly ease loan repayments. 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: Here's what Treasurer Jim Chalmers had to say. 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: Markets are now expecting around four intrast rate cuts in 34 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 5: Australia this calendar year. There's even a more than even 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: money expectation in the markets, more than fifty percent expectation 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: in the markets that the next Reserve Bank interest rate 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 5: cut in May might be as big as fifty basis points. 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this. A senior fellow 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: and chief economists at the Institute of Public Affairs Adam 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: Kricht and Adam the Australian government continues to overspend. That's 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: something we'll discuss. But on a household level, a half 42 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: a percent rate cut would just be a godsend right 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: now with the cost of living pressures we're facing. 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, that's right. 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 6: I mean, that's one of the ironies of the super 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 6: hysterical reaction for these tariff cuts is that actually, for 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 6: the ordinary punter out there, you may have four interst 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 6: rate cuts this year, and not only that, you've got 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 6: the price of petrols fall and fifteen percent I think 50 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 6: in three days, So both of those key costs could 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 6: be coming down for ordinary people. But as you say, 52 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 6: the government here is really not prepared for this heightened 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 6: geopolitical uncertainty, the heightened economic uncertainty. We've got taxes going up, 54 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 6: we've got spending going up, we've got get going up. 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 7: Now. 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 6: I know the Prime Minister and the Treasurer say, oh, 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 6: we're so well prepared, but you know one thing that 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 6: is worrying, and that is the effect of these possible 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 6: tariffs on China. We've seen the price of iron ore 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 6: drop significantly. That is our biggest export this could hasten 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 6: the end of the resource boom, and if that is 62 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 6: the case, we need to batten down the hatches and 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 6: get serious. 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: We may have to start approving a few projects a 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: little bit quicker than the ten to fifteen years it 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: can take to go through all the green and red 67 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: and sometimes black tape as well. Now, the Liberals have 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: continued to self combust. This week they dumped one of 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: their own candidates for having the same opinions as their 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: shadow Defense Minister. Benjamin Britain. The Liberal candidate for the 71 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: New South Wales seat of Whitlam, was disendorsed by the 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: party for saying that the Defense Force needs to remove 73 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: females from combat roles in order to fix the military, 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: in line with similar comments made by Andrew Hasty in 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: the past. Adam, this is just more evidence of how 76 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: weak the coalition is. That you're not back their own 77 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: They do not back their own position and arguments. They 78 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: don't tackle these difficult debates they submit no. 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 6: Certainly, I thought the Liberal Party was supposed to be 80 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 6: a so called broad church. Well this is not showing 81 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 6: much evidence of being a broad church. I mean that 82 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 6: fellow's views, I said, he said I think that women 83 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 6: should not be in some combat roles. Well, that's a 84 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 6: view that more than fifty percent of Australians probably not. 85 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: In those combat roles. Most men wouldn't qualify to be 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: in them. 87 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 6: That is certainly true. But the point is, I mean, 88 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 6: he's not saying anything too extreme. And the other so 89 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 6: called extreme view was he was anti lockdown and he 90 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 6: was anti compulsory vaccination from the COVID vaccines. 91 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: On the right side of his street. 92 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 6: So basically he's been right about everything and he just 93 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 6: holds normal views. So I don't know why they've done that. 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 6: They've just kind of wrong footed the campaign. 95 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: Again. 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 6: There's always media focus on that and it really should 97 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 6: be on the government and its failings. 98 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: Now to the coalition's other major bungle this way and 99 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: the part is messy. Retraction of its plan to have 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: public servants stop working from home has left liberal MPs 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: dismayed and angry at how badly public sentiment on the 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: issue was misread. Multiple backbenches have privately revealed the coalition's 103 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: plan to get the majority of Canberra federal public servants 104 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: back into the office had proven toxic in their electorates, 105 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: as many voters did not realize that policy only applied 106 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: to bureaucrats and not to ordinary workers. Adam, this is 107 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: again a problem, a failure in messaging, in failing to 108 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: communicate a policy that actually should be hugely popular. I 109 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: don't recall Premier Chris Mince having many problems with this 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: when he campaigned on it before he became New South 111 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: Wales premier. 112 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, look, that is true. It should have been so 113 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 6: much better. Although, just to briefly blow my own trumpet, 114 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 6: I did say a month ago on Q and A 115 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 6: that this policy would not work politically, and it hasn't 116 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 6: because they haven't been able to sell it properly. Sadly, 117 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 6: work from home is very popular with a lot of people, 118 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 6: and they thought that this policy applied to them. Of 119 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 6: course it did not, as you suggested, only about the 120 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 6: public service. But you know, people don't pay much attention 121 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 6: to politicians into politics, especially this election campaign, which, let's 122 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 6: face it is a bit of a snooze fest. 123 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: It is, and the Labor Party and their activists of 124 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: which there are many in the media, when hard on 125 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: this policy. This was anti female, it was misogynist. It 126 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: was going to set female workers back decades. I mean 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: the hyperbole employed was extraordinary, but it's work. They've backtracked 128 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: on a key policy. Now let's check in with how 129 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: the election campaign is playing out on social media. We'll 130 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: look at some Labor Party ads. I've got to say 131 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: that they are creative. You've got to give them that. 132 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: We'll start off with Environment Minister Tania Plebisex shed They 133 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: had this to say, so apparently. 134 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 6: Peter doesn't stand a backflip on working from home. Who 135 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 6: believes that he can change what he says, but he 136 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 6: can't change. 137 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: Who he is authorized perics and ALP camera. 138 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: Now that was a bit more conventional. That's the sort 139 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: of ad we expect. Let's have a look at some 140 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: of the more wacky, bizarre or this time, I think 141 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: they're attempting to portray Albow or some kind of I 142 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: don't know, alpha male heartthrop M, lock up your wives. 143 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know who that's targeting. 144 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 3: Here's Elbow dropping some mad beats. These are official ads, people, 145 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: official ads. 146 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 8: They are. 147 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Completely authorized per ALP camera. 148 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: And Labor are not above a little bit of election misinformation. 149 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 8: You know. 150 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 9: The problem Pit is. 151 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 8: All no no, no, no to tax cuts. 152 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: No to help in the cost of living. 153 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: Coming shouldn't debt. 154 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 6: He's a note of everything unless it's big long lunches 155 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 6: for bosses. 156 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: Then he's a massive Yes. 157 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Authorized perics and alp camera and the Greens. 158 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: We should never forget the Greens. Let's have a look 159 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: at this effort. Yeah, they want to know. 160 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 10: Authorized by ACROF for the Greens, New South Wales, Sydney. 161 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: I've got a pause for some sort of commentary there. 162 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: What was that, Adam? 163 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 11: Well? 164 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 3: Look what are the green smoking? 165 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 12: Look? 166 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 6: I just think taken collectively, if these ads are effective, 167 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 6: it's a reminder that we have to get rid of 168 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 6: compulsory very soon. 169 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: But let him cook one. 170 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 6: I mean he's been cooking for three years that the 171 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 6: dish is not particularly tasty. But no, maybe, but maybe 172 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 6: people like this stuff. But overall it's a sad indictment 173 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 6: on our politics, isn't it. 174 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: These ads are pathetic, are pathetic, But there's ones that 175 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: are having cuts through on social media. As we know, 176 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: social media is where people are absorbing so much of 177 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: their news. It's not just young people anymore. We're talking 178 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: to people fifty and under and increasingly over fifty as well. 179 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: This is where you can reach people who are not 180 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: that engaged, and this is a sort of nonsense reaching them. 181 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: Let's have a look at what a conservative activist group, 182 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: Advance has been up to. 183 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: Forget you Pal, thanks for nothing? 184 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: Shall I say, forget you Pal, thanks for nothing? 185 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: And I start right out of there. 186 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 7: That's talent them. 187 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 12: Homer, authorized by Sandra Berg, Advance Australia Camera. 188 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: I've got to say Advance are a lot more clever 189 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: than whoever's doing the liberals ads. And I would just 190 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 3: stay far were them my maxim phone calls and collaborate 191 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: because they are just putting ads together, whether they're social 192 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: media ads or mainstream media ads that actually are huge. 193 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: They're not cringey and just so predictable. 194 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 6: And everyone loves the Simpsons to the Simpsons illusion. 195 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: It's kind of our generation. Maybe that's so we like it. 196 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 6: But you know, generally the two major parties are so 197 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 6: close together that you just get these sorts of ads 198 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 6: kind of adds about nothing. So it's really an indictment 199 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 6: on both the major parties. 200 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 201 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: Now. 202 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: Rising tide has struck again. Earlier today, a climate protest 203 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 3: a disrupted at press conference about mental health to heckle 204 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister. 205 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 11: When it came to working from home and the sacking 206 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 11: of forty one thousand public services. 207 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 7: And and I haven't been. 208 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: Adam. These folk will never be happy. I mean, how 209 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: much more green can the Australian government be? But they're 210 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: still carrying on like that. I'm surprised we're not having 211 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: masses of them super gluing themselves to the streets because 212 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: we saw that for several years. 213 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 6: Well look, I thought it was ironic that she was 214 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 6: crashing a mental health sum because if there's any evidence 215 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 6: of a mental health crisis, it's surely that woman. 216 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: I mean, not passing any sort of judgments on her 217 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: mental health. Let me just say that in case, just 218 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: particularly now. Of course, now this is worry news for 219 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: Peter Dutton anth now but easy as we know, strengthening 220 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: his position in the polls as preferred leader and the 221 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: negative feedback from voters is very interesting on Peter Dutton. 222 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: Now let's take this with a grain of salt because 223 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: this is Labor Commission focus groups that I'm about to 224 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: quote from. But these are some of the words that 225 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: these people in these focused groups have used to describe 226 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: the Liberal leader. They include extreme creepy, agro charmless too, trumpy, 227 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: looks better with glasses and a banker with a w 228 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: AM I allowed to say that on television. I'm not 229 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: sure do we take this seriously. I mean, certainly the 230 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: polls show that Anthony Alberanese is increasing his lead, but 231 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: I would suggest that's not because he looks scary Peter Dutton. 232 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: It's just because we're not hearing much from him. That 233 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 3: differentiates the coalition from what we already have, and. 234 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 6: I think the coalition should be taking advantage of this persona. 235 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 6: I mean, he comes across as stern and serious and authoritative, 236 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 6: and these are uncertain times, so that should be working. 237 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 6: But sadly it's not so far with the coalition. 238 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: Well, what can they do to turn things around? We 239 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: saw how successful Peter Dutton was in turning around those 240 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: poll numbers and getting the voice vote defeated, getting the 241 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: referendum defeated. How can he tap back into that, Peter Dutton, 242 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: because that's been missing, I've got to say in twenty 243 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: twenty five. 244 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, because there was a stark difference, there was 245 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 6: a real choice. I think so far in this campaign 246 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 6: there's not really a real choice I mean the issues 247 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 6: are fairly minor. I think if they want to turn 248 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 6: the tie, they need a big announcement that gets everyone's attention, 249 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 6: and it's going to be controversial, you know. I think 250 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 6: we get the IPA would suggest say that we're going 251 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 6: to dump net zero. That's what the Tories did in 252 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 6: the UK. They've done it, They've announced it. It's not 253 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 6: economically or even scientifically possible, so we may as well 254 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 6: dump it and let's have the argument. 255 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's have the debate. It's a cost of living election, 256 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: and cost of living is impacted greatly by energy costs, 257 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 3: so absolutely, that would be a battleground that I think 258 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: he could win. Adam Christ And thank you for your 259 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 3: time tonight. 260 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 7: Thanks Reda. 261 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: Well, here is a case of HUTSBA. China is accusing 262 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: the US of bullying after America's slapped tariffs on Beijing, 263 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: and Old Trump has made it clear that he will 264 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: impose additional tariffs on China if they impose retaliatory tariffs. 265 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 8: They put a thirty four percent tariff on above what 266 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 8: their ridiculous tariffs were already, and I said of that 267 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 8: tariff isn't removed by tomorrow at twelve o'clock. We're putting 268 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 8: a fifty percent teriff on above the tariffs. 269 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 9: That we put on. 270 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: This comes as countries scrambled to make deals with the 271 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: White House, offering to remove tariffs on US products in 272 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: return for relief from US tariffs. Joining me now is 273 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:23,359 Speaker 3: Guyanese contributor Kosher Gata. Kosher China, which uses economic coersion 274 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: to bully smaller countries, is seriously claiming to be bullied here. 275 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: It's rich and they impose these tariffs on countries around 276 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: the world, so for them to be upset about this. 277 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: It's one thing for Australia to be upset, but China 278 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: is not really embrace free trade as we know it. 279 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 12: There's a lot of stagecraft going on in this issue 280 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 12: that's rocked the world obviously, and between the US and China, 281 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 12: which is a special part of this whole trade what 282 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 12: that's happening, It really is the battle of the century 283 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 12: between the two superpowers. 284 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: And if we're. 285 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 12: Moving towards a multipolar world, which is what Tiam Trump 286 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 12: actually does believe in, which no longer going to be 287 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 12: a single superpower, but China is going to be a 288 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 12: fellow superpower. It has to be recalibrated and tariffs is 289 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 12: where this battle is coming to a head. So they're 290 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 12: jockeying against it with each other. And what they're after 291 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 12: is obviously trade balance where they're both doing ten to 292 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 12: twelve percent of trade with each other. But if you 293 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 12: add indirect trade that US bound, China relies on the 294 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 12: US more. So that's the leverage that Trump is imposing. 295 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 12: The leverage that China has is that a lot of 296 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 12: the supply chains that sit there for vital goods from 297 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 12: fertilizer to penicillin, and they know that semiconductors, et cetera 298 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 12: hard to bring that back overnight. And so this is 299 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 12: where you're kind of seeing the rubber hit the road. 300 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 12: It could spill out into arenas beyond even tariffs and trades, 301 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 12: which is restricting immigration or student visas. We're not anywhere 302 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 12: near there yet, but I would not be surprised if 303 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 12: all of that gets put on the table. 304 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: The supply Chin issue is enormous, isn't it, because successive 305 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: leaders have really neglected that area. I think during COVID 306 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: we realize how dependent we were on China and how 307 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: dangerous that was, and it's something that has to be 308 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: addressed whoever's in the White House. You cannot have vital 309 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: goods dependent on China. You've got to be self sufficient 310 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: enough that your penicillin doesn't have to come via China 311 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: or a portion of it come from China. 312 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 12: And that is something to write that. COVID really put 313 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 12: that in the spotlight, and the US has a lot 314 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 12: of economic mate to wield in that regard, but it 315 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 12: is a lesson for everybody, including Australia. 316 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now, au nations are ready to negotiate with the US. 317 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: Let's hear from the European Commission President. 318 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 13: We stand ready to negotiate with the United States. Indeed, 319 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 13: we have offered zero for zero tariffs for industrial goods, 320 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 13: as we have successfully done with many other trading partners, 321 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 13: because Europe is always ready for a good deal, so 322 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 13: we keep it on the table, but we are also 323 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,359 Speaker 13: prepared to respond through countermeasures and defend our interests. 324 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: It's interesting they have offered zero for zero tariffs for 325 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: industrial goods. Is that going to be enough for Donald Trump? 326 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: Or is that too narrow? 327 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 12: It feels like it's a start, and it happened awfully quickly. 328 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 12: I think Madame Ursula over there, you know, talks about 329 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 12: it as, ah, this is something we do all the time. 330 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: It's no big deal. 331 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 12: She didn't do it last week or last month or 332 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 12: last year when she could have. Look, it's a start. 333 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 12: I think what Trump is after is twofold. One is reciprocity, 334 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 12: so the zero for zero is one shape that that 335 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 12: could take. The other is actually trade balance, where the 336 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 12: number of things that are present in the market here 337 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 12: that come from Europe is somewhat reciprocal in terms of 338 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 12: the trade that we do there. So he talks about 339 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 12: how US streets are flooded with European and Japanese cars. 340 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 12: The reverse is not true, for instance, so that will 341 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 12: take longer. Where the tariffs even the playing field enough 342 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 12: that step two is that hopefully the Europeans are actually 343 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 12: importing more American goods, which helps to go towards reindustrializing America, 344 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 12: which is. 345 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: Ultimately his coal now a massive wind for the Trump administration. 346 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: In the Supreme Court lifting a lower court order that 347 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: blocked the deportation of Venezuela and Gang bang Is, among others. 348 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 3: Kosher was a five to four decision. Amy Coney Barrett, 349 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: who Donald Trump appointed in his first term, sided with 350 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: the three leftists in the court, tell me about this victory, 351 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: what it means for the deportation plan and the commentary 352 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 3: around Coney Barrett. A lot of people are saying she's 353 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's biggest mistake. 354 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 12: A lot of people from the Trump base are not 355 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 12: happy with her for this decision and another decision her 356 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 12: and Chief Justice John Roberts can't rely on them as 357 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 12: always been conservative. But notwithstanding that, this is a win 358 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 12: five to four for Trump. This is that case a 359 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 12: few three Saturdays ago when Justice Boseburg, the Federal DC 360 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 12: District Coort judge, said and ordered the planes that were 361 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 12: midflight outside of US airspace on their way to taking 362 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 12: those to El Salbert or taking those gang members out, 363 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 12: have to be turned around and brought back. They defied it. 364 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 12: This has been running its way up the court. Trump 365 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 12: team asked for an emergency hearing with the Scottis and 366 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 12: they said that he does have as Commander in chief 367 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 12: jurisdiction in invoking that act and seeing and declaring who 368 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 12: is a predatory invasion or incursions or not at war 369 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 12: with Venezuela. That's where people were arguing. But it is 370 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 12: an invasion as defined by him, and he has full 371 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 12: jurisdiction to do that, not this judge from DC. They 372 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 12: did say that there are some due process rights that 373 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 12: should be or could be allowed to these folks, but 374 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 12: it would have to be in the venue where they 375 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 12: were held, which would be Texas and not DC. So 376 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 12: it's definitely a slap back on Judge Boseburg. And it 377 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 12: is a win for Trump because they're going to be 378 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 12: able to continue declaring these most criminal violent gang members 379 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 12: and the lake and getting that out of the country quickly. 380 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: And the venue is particularly important, very big difference between 381 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: DC and Texas there. And this development in the Supreme 382 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 3: Court comes as more than one hundred illegal immigrants were 383 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: nabbed as part of a five day mess deportation operation 384 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: in New York. Now, what's interesting about this Kosher Among 385 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: those detained worth three convicted killers. Reports. The group of 386 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: murderers includes a forty nine year old from Trinidad and Tobago, 387 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: a thirty two year old from El Salvador, and a 388 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: seventy year old from the Dominican Republic. When Trump talks 389 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 3: about criminals, hardened criminals being amongst these illegal immigrants, this 390 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: is what he's talking about. Because the border was so 391 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: completely compromised, that he literally had killers crossing over and 392 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: living freely in the. 393 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 12: Community, and the horrible cases that will live on an 394 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 12: infamy like Lake and Riley and others who were killed 395 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 12: by people exactly like this and this profile. This is 396 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 12: the thing, right. So there's the legal thing with the 397 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 12: Scottish ruling and the minutia of which jurisdiction and what 398 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 12: the Article two powers are versus Article three. That's all important, 399 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 12: But the everyday person isn't in the weeds. Following that, 400 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 12: the everyday person does understand criminals with tattoos all the 401 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 12: way up to their faces coming in. These young, able 402 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 12: bodied men who have no business being here were openly 403 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 12: welcomed in and then committing crimes. So that it really 404 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 12: is a win win for Trump. No matter what he does, 405 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 12: he wins. The people are behind him, and the Democrats 406 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 12: are really in a box they think politically when they 407 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 12: keep defending people in. 408 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: This The Democrats were smart, they would just ignore this issue. 409 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: They would just try not to bring any publicity to 410 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: it and let him do what he wants to do 411 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: in this arena. Because, as you said, anytime there's any 412 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: sort of media attention, there's any courtroom challenges. It's good 413 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: for Trump. This is a policy that he wins on 414 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: with the majority every single time. Now, this has got 415 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: to be the funniest story of the year for me 416 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: so far. The New York Post reports Kamala Harris was 417 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: absolutely blindsided by her landslide loss to Donald Trump. She 418 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 3: had bought the hype herself. She thought her campaign was 419 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 3: in good shape. They had more money, they had good press, 420 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: and of course those dodgy poll numbers that no one 421 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: with a brain trusted. But she actually thought she was 422 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: going to win, win comfortably. This is all in a 423 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: new book on the twenty twenty four presidential election by 424 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: The Hill correspondent Amy Parnes. She also says Tim Walls, 425 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 3: Kamala's VP candidate, was so stunned by Kamala's terrible performance 426 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: that he was unable to speak on election night. The 427 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: author describes the Minnesota governor sitting in his hotel room 428 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: silently on election night as staffers tried to explain the 429 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: crushing loss. I can just picture that that is kind 430 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 3: of a hilarious in many ways. How could they not 431 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: see this? Surely they have learned over the years that 432 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: the polls always underestimate Trump that no matter how much 433 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: good press you get, the media's influence has diminished, and 434 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 3: Kamala was a poor candidate, just like Hillary was. 435 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 12: It is so hard to believe. I'm sure sure Amy 436 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 12: Parnas reporting is well sourced and this did happen, and 437 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 12: it is in that way it is possible to believe 438 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 12: because but Kamlin goes to the point that she didn't 439 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 12: have a lot of depth, just to be very blunt 440 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 12: about it, and a lot of people said that about her. 441 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 12: So she sounds like somebody who at the high level. 442 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I've got. 443 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 12: More money than Team Trump, which she did. I've got 444 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 12: more press and favorable press, which she did. So everything's good. 445 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 12: I've got some polls that are saying I'm going well. 446 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 12: And she never was able to go deeper and dig 447 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 12: deeper and like, check the validity of that, or how 448 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 12: much does money matter? How much does mainstream media press matter? 449 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 12: To your point, So maybe she was just floating on 450 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 12: that surface level and got a shock. We heard similar 451 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 12: reports of Hillary Clinton. Apparently it was very very shocked 452 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 12: twenty sixteen November. 453 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: That one you. 454 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 12: Could still believe because she was a worthy contender. This 455 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 12: one to anybody who's not in the little bubble. It 456 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 12: just feels so impossible to imagine kershageda. 457 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: Thank you pleasure still to come. My lefties losing it? 458 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: Plus Alex Stein is here with the latest from the US, 459 00:23:48,080 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: including shocking revelations about the trans Nashville school shooter. Welcome back. 460 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: It's time for lefties losing it? And what is it 461 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: with the left and violence? They cannot help themselves. Time 462 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: and time again they resort to violence, whether it's mass 463 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 3: violence like we saw with the BLM and Antifa riots, 464 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: or one on one violence like this next clip. What 465 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: chair as this lefty loses it during a discussion about abortion, 466 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: attacking a pro life activist Savannah Craven and Taau. 467 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 14: I think that you just don't understand the magnitude of 468 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 14: having a child's here. Well, I'm not the one who 469 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 14: admitted they would be okay with killing maybies and foster 470 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 14: care and killing children that have been abused. 471 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: That's the point. 472 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 15: What a sex really. 473 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: With charming? That punch left Savannah bruised and bleeding. But 474 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 3: it's okay because the charming abortion enthusiast who threw that 475 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: part lunch has since apologized. Well, sort of. Brianna Rivers 476 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: of The bron said this of her victims. She said, 477 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: Savannah is a professional antagonist, not a reporter, and the 478 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: truth will be told. I will not allow my image 479 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: to be defamed by this woman's actions. Anyone who knows 480 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: me knows how respectful I am. I don't even litter. 481 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: There's no way you believe I'm punching people for disagreeing 482 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: with my point of view. A lady, I do believe 483 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: you would punch people because of their point of view, 484 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: because I've just been watching it. That's precisely what you did. 485 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 7: Dear me. 486 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: I think what these lefties need is therapy. This next 487 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: woman agrees with me, but she wants taxpayers or Trump 488 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: supporters to pay for her therapy because she can't cope 489 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 3: in the age of Trump. 490 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 4: All right, So here's what I want to know as 491 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 4: an American for this repeated trauma that I'm going through 492 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: and the rest of the world, to be quite honest, 493 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 4: asking for the world, who do we send our therapy 494 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 4: bill to? Because now that you've dismantled the entire healthcare system. 495 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: RFK Junior, you find moron. 496 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 10: What are we supposed to do? 497 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 7: Oh? 498 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 4: Actually, are there any therapists left. They're probably not allowed 499 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 4: to therapize us, right right. 500 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: I really do think it's high time that we made 501 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 3: asylums great again. Forget about building the wall, build asylums. 502 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: Talking about asylums, Time to check in with MSNBC. Let's 503 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: hear from Democrat operatives Simone Sanders here, she's crying for 504 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: gang bangers being sent to Al Salvador. Remember, the American 505 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: taxpayer saves a fortune by housing these criminals in El 506 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: Salvador instead of US prisons. 507 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 16: I would like to know who's the camera crew that 508 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 16: was hired to film this propaganda and what company is 509 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 16: literally exploiting the men in these videos for what The 510 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 16: men that you see in these videos that are dressed 511 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 16: in white, that the United States sets to El Salvador, 512 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 16: your tax dollars are paying for them to be housed there. 513 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 16: They didn't just pay for the plan. The tax dollars 514 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 16: are paying for every single one of these men, many 515 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 16: of them. Now we now innocent to people who are 516 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 16: not gang members. 517 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: Innocent people, she says, yes, the sort of innocent people 518 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: covered in gang tattoos, cavorting with criminals and in the 519 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 3: country illegally. Time for a Scott Jennings special on sin 520 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: and this time his schools. A Karen No, really, that's 521 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: that's her name. 522 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: So if we were to just keep question who's more 523 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: popular right now, Donald Trump, are congressional Democrats, It doesn't matter. 524 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 7: Don't Trump happens if you do, it doesn't He said, 525 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 7: A fifty. 526 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 6: You're sitting at twenty eighty. 527 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 4: He's fifty actually, And increasingly people are okay, you want 528 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: to call the ass sure, Okay, okay. 529 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 3: We're not going to go to the map over to. 530 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: His numbers are going his approval readings are going down. 531 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: We got to leave it there now. This week I'll 532 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 3: be bringing you plenty of footage of the mass tantrum 533 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: happening around America and in other countries as well. It's 534 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: like it's twenty seventeen all over again. Let's check out 535 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: the crowd here and tell me if you notice something 536 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: about these supposed pro democracy protesters. Yes, did you notice 537 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 3: the number of boomers, their elderly folk. These are the 538 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: people who benefited greatly from America being a manufacturing superpower 539 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: once upon a time, who bought their homes at a 540 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: reasonable price. They're protesting for the status co if you 541 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: think the majority of Trump voters care about billionaires losing 542 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: billions and the share markets diving, then you haven't been 543 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: paying attention. Here are some sobering facts. In the US, 544 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: ninety three percent of the stock market is held by 545 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: just ten percent the top ten percent. The bottom fifty 546 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: percent of Americans hold only around one percent of all 547 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: stocks and mutual fund shares. Now let's go to Senator 548 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: Josh Howley. He's had enough of paid activists and assorted 549 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: lefty troublemakers. Here he turns the tables on Code Pink 550 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: activists who are calling him a baby killer, and he 551 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: reminds them of their funding from China, China, the blood 552 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: of leaders. 553 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 11: You're a baby killer, blood, the blood. 554 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: Of the Chinese. Yep, it's high time that these anti 555 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: Israeli mobs got a taste of their own medicine. 556 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: You're along the ride. 557 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: No, no, don't use the offense. 558 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 17: You're a you. 559 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 8: We're speaking their money, and that you are rapidly inta. 560 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: You are absolutely morally districtive, and I look forward to 561 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: one day the moral come upments that you will deserve. 562 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: You are morally uphil You are appalling for the Jews. 563 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 14: You you are a war criminal, baby killer, baby killering. 564 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: I just love the way he said, so what when 565 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: she kept saying I'm a healthcare worker like that gives 566 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: her immunity from criticism for her abhorrent activism. Now we've 567 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: covered at length Disney's latest woke disaster, snow White film 568 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: that is bombing at the box office, and one that 569 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 3: is so bad that even Disney seems a little bit 570 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: of shame, scaling back the promotion dramatically. But listen here 571 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: as the star Rachel Zegler does a massive backflip. She's 572 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: gone from bagging the original story to saying it'sn't an 573 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: example to admire. 574 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 18: That is part of the beauty of Snowweight. It has 575 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 18: been for eighty eight years now that she just sees 576 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 18: the good and everyone and everything. And I hope that 577 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 18: I and so many people who watch this film can 578 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 18: embody that as well. 579 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: And let's have a good news story. Watch this thief 580 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: be chaste and tackle to the ground. And the humiliation 581 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: did not end there. Watch Granny put the Baddy in 582 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: a headlock. Now, too, fresh revelations of what fuel the 583 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: deadly rampage of the National school shooter who killed six, 584 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: including three children aged just nine at a Christian school 585 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: in March twenty twenty three. So much of her manifesto 586 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: was deliberately excluded from the official report released last week, 587 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: but Megan Kelly got her hands on the FBI report 588 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: and the full manifesto. 589 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 19: The report from the Nashville Police barely touched on the 590 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 19: full scope and breadth of what was contained. The killers 591 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 19: struggles with her gender, her obsession with gender identity, alarming 592 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 19: racial animis toward herself as a white person, and how 593 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 19: those factors contributed to the act that she committed that day. 594 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 19: Why do you think they excluded all of this? Why 595 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 19: are those two things too hot to touch? What the 596 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 19: Nashville Police represented was that her trans ideology, her gender 597 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 19: confusion had absolutely nothing to do with a horrific action too. 598 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: From how do you why? 599 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 19: How do you glean that this stuff is all over 600 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 19: her ratings. 601 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: Not only was this mass killer who was born Audrey 602 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: but calling herself Adrian, obsessed with radiol gender ideology, she 603 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: also had a deep hatred of America and of white people. 604 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 19: The killer writes about how epic it would have been 605 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 19: if she had shut up her own high school quote, 606 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 19: kill all the white kids. Kill my own race fys, 607 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 19: destroy all the white people who are teachers, Let all 608 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 19: the black kids go unless if I don't like you. 609 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 19: The killer goes on, un quote being white sucks, but 610 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 19: being black is so cool. Black people should rule, White 611 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 19: people should fall every white person who lived and died. 612 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 10: I hate you all. 613 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: Joining me now is comedian and host of Primetime with 614 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: Alex Stein on Blaze TV. Alex Stein. This is deeply disturbing, 615 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: but it paints a very vivid picture, indeed, of what 616 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: motivated this mascular and for two years, authorities have deliberately 617 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 3: suppressed those key details. 618 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 17: Well, Rita, they have to suppress those key details because 619 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 17: when you look at this situation, like multiple other situations 620 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 17: that are similar, it's not a gun problem, it's a 621 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 17: mental health problem. And when you see that there's a 622 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 17: multiple transgender shooters that are you know, on mentally you know, 623 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 17: they're all diagnosed as mentally ill, and they're all on 624 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 17: some sort of anti depressent or anti psychotic drug. 625 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 7: So there seems to be. 626 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 17: A pattern when it comes to this, and they try to, 627 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 17: you know, keep that narrative from actually you know, reaching 628 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 17: the mainstream. Even though conservatives have been screaming about this constantly, 629 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 17: So this only reinforces people like libs of TikTok and 630 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 17: people like myself and people that have actually spoke out 631 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 17: about the pattern recognition when it comes to these shootings. 632 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 3: Now, alex I mentioned in Lefties that the stock market 633 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: correction or crash, whatever you want to call it, is 634 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 3: obviously enraging the usual suspects. It's certainly alarming segments of 635 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: Trump's supporter base as well, including the few billionaires who 636 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: support him. They've lost a lot of money. But the 637 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: majority of his supporter base expected, indeed voted for major 638 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: economic reform. They knew full well they'd be upheaval, they'd 639 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 3: be winners and losers. The goal is to make American 640 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: manufacturing and American workers the winners in the long run. 641 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 3: Tell me how this policy is being received, not just 642 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 3: by Americans in general, but particularly by Trump's base. 643 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 17: Well, you see people like Elon Musk who's speaking out 644 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 17: against it. But of course Elon Musk owns a multinational corporation, 645 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 17: multiple multinational corporations, so it makes sense why he wants 646 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 17: open trade, so you know he has a vested interest 647 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 17: in it. But when it comes to the fairness of 648 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 17: the trade between America and all these other foreign countries. 649 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 17: It's been unfair for a long time. 650 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 7: And you said it best. 651 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 17: I mean, when in reality, lesson one percent of the 652 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 17: population owns ninety nine percent of the wealth. 653 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 7: When stuff like this happens, of course, people get affected. 654 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 17: People have put in money in their portfolio, and they 655 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 17: that go down. 656 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 7: But I have no doubt in my mind that the 657 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 7: stock market will recover, because it usually always does and 658 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 7: will bounce back. 659 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 17: So it's just kind of a tough time in the 660 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 17: short term. In the long term, when all of these 661 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 17: manufacturing jobs, like Hyundai potentially building a twenty billion dollar 662 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 17: factory in the United States, it's going to create American 663 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 17: jobs and it's going to make our economy stronger in 664 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 17: the long run. 665 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 3: Well, the bottom fifty percent in America only hold one 666 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 3: percent of shares. They're far less concerned by stock market fluctuations, 667 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: no matter how dramatic they may be. And I found 668 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: this discussion illuminating. This is the Treasury Secretary Scott percent 669 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 3: speaking to Tucker Carlson about the two Americas, not left 670 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: and right necessarily, but those who are financially comfortable and 671 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: those who are struggling like never before. 672 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: I was really struck by two different statistics. Last year, 673 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 2: summer of twenty twenty four, Americans took more European vacations 674 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: than they had in history. Summer of twenty twenty four, 675 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: more Americans were using food banks than they ever have 676 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: in history. I went into two food banks near my 677 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 2: hometown to ask what's the story, and they said, you know, 678 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: for a lot of people, it's a loss of dignity 679 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: to walk in a food bank. Course, it wasn't their 680 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: traditional clientele. Wasn't people who'd lost their homes. Were was 681 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: it people out on the street. These were working families. 682 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 3: Alex working people having to go into food banks just 683 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 3: to put food on the table. They just cannot afford 684 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: it to feed their families. That is just not something 685 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 3: that is sustainable for a first world nation to have 686 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 3: people who are working full time who still can't afford 687 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 3: the basics. 688 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, here in America, I mean I they say the 689 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 7: land of milk and honey. 690 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 17: But for a lot of people, they're struggling, especially with 691 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 17: our college system. You know, these kids get out of 692 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 17: college and they're in so much debt. They have to 693 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 17: do some sort of gig economy type job like you 694 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 17: know uber or uber eats, just to kind of make 695 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 17: ends meet in between. 696 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 7: Working a nine to five entry level job. 697 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 17: So it sounds crazy that you have to work two 698 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 17: jobs in America to make it, but you really do. 699 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 17: And you know you're competing with legal immigrants for some jobs, 700 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 17: you're competing with artificial intelligence, so you know, it's tough. 701 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 17: And even if you do make a living, I'm going 702 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 17: to be honest, I make a decent living. But still, 703 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 17: you know, my dad's older trying to save money for him, 704 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 17: and it's just even me making a decent amount of money. 705 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 17: Things are so expensive now, so I'm not surprising more 706 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 17: people are going to food banks, and really I'm happy 707 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 17: at least there are food banks in our country. At 708 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 17: least we can help some people out. We probably need 709 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 17: to do more to help out the struggling Americans, and 710 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 17: I think in our country is headed in that direction. 711 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 3: Well, this is why so many people in the States 712 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: and elsewhere really do not care too much about stock 713 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 3: market fluctuations. That they're not that that's not what's keeping 714 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 3: them up at night. What's keeping them up up at 715 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 3: night is how they're going to feed their families now. 716 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 3: President Trump hosted the LA Dodgers today at the White House. 717 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 3: He had the team cracking up after he refused to 718 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: name a couple of senators that he doesn't like and others. 719 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 9: We have a couple of senators here. 720 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 8: I just don't particularly like them, so I won't introduce. 721 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 9: Over the course of this amazing season the members of 722 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 9: this team. 723 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 7: I didn't think it was that big a deal. 724 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 3: Washington never seen him so relaxed. He doesn't seem too 725 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 3: bothered by the tariff milldowns. 726 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 17: No, And isn't that just so funny to watch Donald 727 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 17: Trump just be himself? You know, that was totally off 728 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 17: the caff. He just had listening. I don't even want 729 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 17: to recognize the senators. I don't like them. They don't 730 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 17: like me, so I'm not going to give them my attention. 731 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 17: That's just him being himself. And that's what we didn't 732 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 17: have with Joe Biden. Joe Biden was constantly if he 733 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 17: was off script, he was basically just drooling on himself, sadly, So, 734 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 17: you know, I love to see a president pretty relaxed 735 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 17: like that. And that was an own and he wasn't 736 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 17: even trying to own the senators that were there, So 737 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 17: that was hilarious. 738 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was surprised that that was such a big 739 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 3: deal that he wasn't going to do that. He had 740 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw presenting him with 741 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 3: his own forty seven jersey. 742 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 12: Let's have a look, mister President, we have a gift 743 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 12: for you as well. 744 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 3: Oh I like that. 745 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 8: Now. 746 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 3: He's quite a superstar, Clayton, and you've got a history 747 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 3: with him, Alex, do tell me what it is. 748 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 7: Well read. 749 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 17: Clayton Kershaw and I we went to high school together 750 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 17: at Highland Park High School in Dallas, Texas, where Clayton 751 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 17: and I in middle school. We were on the same 752 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 17: Lim League baseball team. And he's a future Hall of Famer. 753 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 17: You see that's me. I'm the really obese athlete right there, 754 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 17: you can tell. 755 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 20: And then also Matthew Stafford, who was a quarterback for 756 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 20: the Los Angeles Rams who recently won a Super Bowl. 757 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 20: So I used to think of about baseball, but maybe 758 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 20: it's because I was playing against two, you know, future 759 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 20: Hall of famers in different sports. So yes, I'd love 760 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 20: to see Clayton give that jersey to Donald Trump and Clayton. 761 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 20: You know, he's a pretty politically moderate, but I know 762 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 20: that all the liberals in California and Los Angeles especially are. 763 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 17: Crying seeing him hand that jersey to Donald Trump. That 764 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 17: was awesome to watch. 765 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 3: I can't believe you had two absolute superstars in that 766 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 3: one little team. I mean, that is incredible, little little 767 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 3: school in Texas, and you've got well three stars now 768 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 3: from that little team. Now, before you go, Alex, Michelle 769 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: Obama's podcast has been a big failed despite considerable hype 770 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 3: and promotion and I'm sure a very lucrative contract. She's 771 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: gone there, she just isn't getting the numbers on YouTube 772 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 3: or elsewhere. I kind of meagine why. 773 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 21: I think a lot of young people, a lot of 774 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 21: people in general, because of their narrow view of what's possible, 775 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 21: they find themselves limiting what life could look like. And 776 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 21: I always challenge young people now to first think about 777 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 21: your why, you know, don't think about the what. Don't 778 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 21: worry about numbers and titles. 779 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 3: Alex, She's supposed to be wildly popular, but this little 780 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 3: chat we're having right now is going to have more 781 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: views on YouTube by the morning than her podcast. 782 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 17: Rita, You're exactly right, and you're not being egotistical at 783 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 17: all of this left he's losing it. Clip will have millions, 784 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 17: and I believe her last podcast had thirty eight thousand views. 785 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 7: And she has a marketing team. 786 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 17: That is, you know, the same ones I think that 787 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 17: work with the royal family. So the fact that they 788 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 17: can't even get people to care about her podcast, and 789 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 17: that's with her brother, it's just it's it's really it 790 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 17: shows you that she's not as likable as the Democrats think. 791 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 17: And what I really think though, would make the podcast 792 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 17: a hit. If she talked about a relationship with Barack 793 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 17: and she said that they were having problems. Could you 794 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 17: imagine if it was almost like a divorce therapy podcast? 795 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 17: Then you would watch that. Then I would watch. I 796 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 17: think that's what she has to do. She has to 797 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 17: have the public Hollywood divorce and that sounds insane, but 798 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 17: that's the only way to save that podcast. 799 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, she's got to take one for 800 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 3: the team and have a big revelation. Alex Stein, thanks 801 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 3: for your time. Tonight still to come, Colleen Harken joins 802 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 3: me to discuss some of the radical racial politics infecting 803 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 3: Australian universities. Welcome back. Joining me now is Institute of 804 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 3: Public Affairs Research Fellow and director of the IPS Schools Program, 805 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 3: Colleen Hearken with a University of Queensland where senior lecturer 806 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 3: Danny Linda has berated first year law students after she 807 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 3: supposedly witnessed tens of students walking out of a previous 808 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 3: lecture when she started talking about Indigenous Australian legal history. 809 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 3: Let's listen to some of what she had to say. 810 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 15: What I'm not going to tolerate, no matter what your 811 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 15: politics are, is any form of discrimination, particularly when it's 812 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 15: directed at me and my cultural identity as an average 813 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 15: nor woman. 814 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 22: I am an expert in the field. 815 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 15: I'm recognized internationally and nationally for the work that I've done, 816 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 15: and I'm the course coordinator with authority to run this subject. 817 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 22: The way in which I see fit and the way 818 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 22: in which I see fit is in alignment with the 819 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 22: Council of Australian Law Deeds and their approach to indigenizing 820 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 22: and their commitment to in digenizing the curriculum. 821 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 3: Now, Colleen, she's told the students she would remember their 822 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 3: faces and they better watch them because this could be 823 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 3: impacting the academic results. After all, she's going to determine 824 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 3: how well they do in this course. 825 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 10: It's appalling, Rita. 826 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 23: The fact that the irony of this is that her 827 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 23: area of expertise is the foundations of law, and she's 828 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 23: a lawyer herself, and she's threatening students. 829 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 10: So where does that fit into the. 830 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 23: Framework of actually the rule of law and what it 831 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 23: means to implement the law fairly to everybody. It's an apputation. 832 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 23: My personal view is that she should be still down. 833 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 23: She's threatening students that unless they actually agree with her, 834 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 23: she's indigenizing a curriculum that is not really related. 835 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 10: To actually legal studies. 836 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 23: As you said, these people have got really good schools 837 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 23: in their atar. They have a right to a proper education. 838 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we are seeing this sort of activism across 839 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 3: the board, whether kids are studying medicine, studying law. It 840 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 3: seems to be infecting every area on can and if 841 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 3: your grades are dependent on lecturers like this, if they 842 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 3: take a if they object to your political positions, if 843 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 3: they don't like your politics, then that could impact your 844 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 3: school potentially and your career prospects completely. 845 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 23: You're very exposed to their sensitivity. Whatever this sensitivity happens 846 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 23: to be. Our research showed that we did an audit 847 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 23: of the teacher training and about a year and a 848 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 23: quarter of teacher training is work material where indigenous curriculum 849 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 23: is pustioned. 850 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 10: So we've got people who are being. 851 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 23: Retrained to be uneducated and they're the people who are 852 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 23: going back into classrooms. This sort of activism within primary 853 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 23: secondary and university sector is rife absolutely now. 854 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 3: The Coalition has announced plans to get rid of work 855 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 3: activism and ideological agendas in universities through ministerial intervention in 856 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 3: what is taught in courses. Opposition Education spokeswoman Sarah Henderson 857 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 3: said she would direct the Tertiary Quality Education and Standards 858 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 3: Agency to take action against the indoctrination of students if 859 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 3: the Coalition wins the election. Well, how would that work? 860 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 3: Coaline air And it's all good and well to have 861 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 3: a policy like that, but will it actually be implemented 862 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 3: and will it have any effect on campus level? 863 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 23: Well, hopefully if Senator Henderson becomes the Minister for Education, 864 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 23: hopefully she actually has the courage to see through those 865 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 23: statements because it's one thing to save them and that 866 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 23: it's another thing to actually do them and the Coalition 867 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 23: was in government for a long time and didn't make 868 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 23: the great you know, it didn't make the inroads that 869 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 23: they said that they would. So it is imperative that 870 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 23: students have the right to a non indoctrination environment in 871 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 23: the school and that they get the opportunity to critically analyze. 872 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 10: And to think for themselves. 873 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 23: And as I said, I hope she has the courage 874 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 23: to actually implement what she's saying. 875 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 3: You're so right. We've had successive coalition terms and they 876 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 3: really did very little to tackle this, whether it's at 877 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,760 Speaker 3: higher education or primari or secondary school level. Now we're 878 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: hearing that special equity provisions for student entry into university courses. 879 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 3: They're supposed to be pretty rare occurrences when someone has 880 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 3: got a genuine issue that is impacting their ATAR score, 881 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 3: But according to fresh Starter, one in three university applicants 882 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 3: are using special access schemes to gain bonus entry points 883 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 3: as equity enrollments reach record highs. Colleen, we've got things 884 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 3: like divorce, disability, poverty. They're amongst the more common equity 885 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 3: provisions being claimed, but one in three, I mean, it's 886 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 3: almost making the entry score seem irrelevant. 887 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 23: It's an extraordinary statistic, and of course through periods in 888 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 23: time where something extraordinary happens during that year twelve year, 889 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 23: and of course special considerations should be given. But that's 890 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 23: the whole the keyword there is special consideration. It ought 891 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 23: not to be as common as thirty percent of the population. 892 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 23: And I personally want to keep my airplanes in the air. 893 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 23: You know, buildings staying afloat, not buildings a float, but 894 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 23: you know, building staying up and in place. 895 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 10: I don't want to have a scenario where we are 896 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 10: at risk. 897 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 23: Of the standard of the students, so I actually can't 898 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 23: do the job that this diversity, equity and inclusion process 899 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 23: has compromised the whole of society really because whatever the 900 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 23: course that their students are doing, if they're not capable 901 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 23: of doing the study, they're simply not capable of doing it. 902 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 10: And we have to be realistic about that. 903 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 3: Now before you go. The University of Sydney has started 904 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 3: hiring a team of academics to help indigenize and decolonize 905 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 3: its courses. One of the new roles is going to 906 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 3: be a Senior Education Design Officer who would be executing 907 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 3: transformative curriculum projects aimed at embedding Aboriginal and Torres Strait 908 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,839 Speaker 3: Island and knowledge perspectives, texts and media within curriculus projects. 909 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 3: This sounds very much like what we're seeing in secondary schools. 910 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 3: In primary schools. Why stop there? 911 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 23: Why not have it at universities too, correct The activism 912 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 23: in the curriculum is from kindergarten all the way through. 913 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 23: They're just not listening to what the people wanted. We 914 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 23: had a referendum, the result was very clear. It sounds 915 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 23: to me like they're trying to push this division by stealth. 916 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Colin Harkin, thank you so much for your time tonight, 917 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 3: and that's it from May. I'll see you at eleven 918 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 3: tomorrow night. Up next is Newsnight