WEBVTT - Bec, Bali And Her Controversial New Surgery (Part 1) 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.360 Hello, and welcome to a very different episode of the 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.439 Masphony podcast and what's going to be the first episode 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:11.200 in a new little investigations series. I'm recording this intro 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.120 right now in a hotel room in Bali. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.360 I just met Beck, who has also. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.480 Just landed in Bali ahead of undergoing what is possibly 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.520 one of the most controversial new cosmetic surgeries out there. 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:27.160 I'm standing for a nervous Josh, what am I doing? 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.120 What all? Well, this isn't a holiday, is it. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:34.559 It's not a holiday? Nervous, but I can't work the 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:35.720 things we do for beauty. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:39.920 And over the next twenty four hours, ten more leading 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.120 Australian influencers are going to arrive here or to undergo 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.720 the same procedure. What if this is a big, big 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.000 mistake which I didn't even know existed until a couple 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.760 of months ago, and it isn't even yet available in Australia. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.440 But you can always say no at any point. I 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.680 can I can't say no at any point. 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:00.160 Now. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.320 I imagine you're quite confused listening to this right now, 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.400 and don't worry, because I have been too. So I'm 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.520 going to take you to the very start of how 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.480 I even ended up here in BALLEI investigating the actual 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.600 reality of this latest craze. I think we can call 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:22.240 it in the cosmetic surgery world, which, trust me, very 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.920 soon you will not be able to escape in the 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:35.120 press and in your news feeds. Okay, to take this 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.120 back to the very very very start. As some of 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.240 you may know, my media career started in the world 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.520 of celebrity magazines back in the UK many years ago. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.240 At twenty one, I was offered an internship at a 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.320 gossip magazine in London to help with their social media. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.560 Within two weeks, the team on that magazine offered me 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.560 the role of junior writer. I said to them when 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.960 they offered me that, like, yo, actually, like I don't 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:01.320 know how. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.480 To write or interview people or any of that. I 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:04.400 dropped out of school. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.560 But the editors told me that that was okay because 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.639 I apparently had the most important thing, which was passion, 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.360 And they said, like, take the job, Josh, and we 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.840 will teach you to be a proper journalist on the go. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.440 And yeah they did, and within a year of taking 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.440 that junior writer role, I'd been promoted twice to the 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.200 senior writer. I was nominated for Rising star at the 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.840 British Media Awards, and I was suddenly doing all the 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:36.080 big cover features for the magazine every single week. Hi, 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.080 I'm Josh from Now Magazine and today I'm joined by 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.760 the Queen that is Para Hilton in London with Zoella. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.919 And back then when my editors were training me, they 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:51.359 shared with me the biggest secret behind every celebrity interview 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.840 and magazine, and that was that I must ask every 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:02.800 female celebrity about the free bees, which are boys, babies 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.799 and bodies aka boys. Like I'd sit down with someone 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:09.399 and be like, yo, tell me about your love life, 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.200 what's going on there? Because you know we all love 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.600 a gossip and gossip cells, babies. I would have to 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:17.799 ask like do you have kids? Do you want kids? 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.679 Do you want to freeze your eggs if you haven't 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.200 got a partner? Would you do IVF? Like all these 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.680 things because I was told most of our readers and mothers, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.120 so anything on that topic will resonate with our readers 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:31.600 and then bodies. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:33.799 And I was told by. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.520 My editors I must ask every female celebrity you want 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.960 to die? Have you lost weight? Have you put weight on? 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.280 Have you had any work done? What work would you 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.080 like done? I was even told to ask them like, Hey, 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.520 what do you hate most about your body? And if 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.160 you could change anything right now, like what would you change? 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.960 And back then, my editors explained to me that we 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.280 must do that because having someone rich and famous talk 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:01.400 about and insecurity would make our regular everyday readers feel 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.320 better about themselves, and it would also make the celebrity 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.120 that little bit more relatable. But gradually, over the years 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.880 I slowly realized that that just wasn't true, and I 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.360 realized that I was told to ask the celebrities those 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:20.240 questions so we the magazine, we could exploit their insecurities 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.680 for profit while pushing out these unrealistic beauty standards onto 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.600 the unsuspecting public who bought into every diet, every fitness program, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.920 and every cosmetic procedure that. 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.680 Our magazine and every magazine. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:38.560 Back then pushed out on the cover every single week. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.680 And everything we did was part of like this twisted, 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:47.000 self proclaimed body positivity movement that did nothing but essentially 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:51.120 just made people feel worse about themselves and the celebrity included. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:55.279 And back then, I'll admit I didn't know any better, 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.000 and it took me years to think like, hey, should 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.000 we be reducing every woman out there down to these 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.440 three topics as if that's. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:03.880 All they are? 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.320 And like back then again, I was a kid and 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.279 I was grateful to have what I thought was my 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.560 dream job, especially because I didn't go to UNI, I 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.320 didn't study like this kind of just fell in my lap. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.760 And those in charge, like the editors who were training me, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.839 they all had decades of editorial experience under their belts, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.919 and to me and to all the other young staff 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.559 who I suppose of my age and are now maybe 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.480 leading new publications in this new form of media. Like 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.520 back then the editors what they told was their word 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:39.480 was gospel. But now, more than ever, I've essentially realized 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.960 just how problematic that all was, and even my small 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.280 part of it all, which is why I think this 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.640 little Bally podcast series you're about to listen to is important. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.800 But before we get to this, now, in BALI me 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.920 working at that magazine and then as a showbies journal 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.960 for years, I essentially had a front row seat to 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:08.640 every plastic surgery craze that came and when, and like 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.640 especially through my regular often weekly interviews with people like 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.960 Katie Price in the UK and Charlotte Crosby from Jordie Shaw, 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.760 which I continued doing once I moved to Australia. And 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.839 some of you may actually remember me from briefly appearing 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:27.560 on The Charlotte Crosby Show during an episode where Charlotte 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.120 was mid breakup, quite emotional, and her management while she 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.160 was in Sydney for Ah, great, Charlotte's vulnerable and a 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:35.960 bit of a mess. Let's bring Josh in who she 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.480 knows like to just interview her about the breakup. 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.120 I feel like shit, I've got one last interview to do. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.040 At least I've been interviewed by this guy before. She's awful, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.640 so I don't want to talk about it. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.920 Yeah, that was a weird episode. But back to the point. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.680 I spent years interviewing Charlotte, and in those interviews I 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.320 documented every little. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.680 Tweak that she made to her body. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.400 And every time like we did a new interview and 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.160 she was telling me about whatever she'd done, I did always. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.160 Think to myself, is any of this necessary? 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:08.359 Like? 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.880 Why are we or why are you? Why is anyone 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.080 doing this to themselves? 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:14.640 Hi? 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.560 Everyone, I'm in Australia. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.520 I think what everyone really wants to know is about 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:24.360 my new nes Woo, shiny glaring unicorns. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.320 It looks best from the side for you. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.080 And every time Charlotte got something new done and she 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:33.120 would proudly share it through people like me. Then you know, 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.840 we'd put that content out and people would respond, not 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:40.560 always positively, which he's expected, and then we, as the magazine, 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.800 would do another piece on that with a headline like 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.400 Charlotte hits back at the trolls, just to keep fanning 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.080 those flames of outrage. And a lot of the time, though, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.600 what the media and the magazines and even like the 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.680 Daily mel will say in the headlines is cruel trolls. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.520 It's often not cruel trolls. It's just regular people going yo, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.560 I don't think this is healthy and should we be 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.320 pushing this onto young girls? And of course I am 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.320 a big believer in your body, your choice. Everyone is 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.440 entitled to do what makes them happy or do what 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.800 brings them a confidence that they've always lacked, you know whatever. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.840 But where is the line between self love and just 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.200 an endless search for validation. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.880 I had a nose job. I don't want to go 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.840 back and have more searching because nothing else I want 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.360 to change. I think if you feel if you're a 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.920 bit of an insecure person or you're unhappy with a 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.880 lot of things on your body, then yeah, but I 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:39.600 don't know whether it is I don't know whether it 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:40.240 is addictive. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.080 When I first started in this industry at that magazine 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.560 in age twenty one, it was all about the breast 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:49.000 implants or the boltons as they were called back then, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.480 and there was obviously noose jobs and LiPo in the 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.720 mix too, which back then they were like the two 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.720 of the most popular procedures out there for people wanting 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.760 to change their appearance, and they were like the original 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:05.760 holy trinity of procedures for people in the spotlight. But 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:10.320 then along came the Kardashians and Instagram, and suddenly it 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.800 was all about lip filler and then cheek filler and 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.319 filler everywhere, and then after that it was the Brazilian 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.720 bum lift, which to me again is when this pursuit 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:27.280 of perfection it just started to seem like extreme and dangerous. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.400 There's something called the Brazilian butt lift, which is fat 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.600 transferred to the buttocks, and it has the highest death 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.600 rate in plastic surgery. Like it got to the point 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.520 where you've got young girls literally killing themselves in a 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.200 bid to try and look like other girls they've seen 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.800 on Instagram. Now, though, and as some of you may 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.960 have noticed, over the last couple of years, the desire 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.239 for big breasts and a big bum has been replaced 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.600 by a more natural look. And one leading plastic surgeon 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.200 in Australia I spoke to who while researching for this 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.880 podcast series, he told me that people are now craving 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:09.000 and paying a lot of money for more conservative looks, 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.920 and most of his clients are now chasing subtle looks 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.240 over those extreme ones of recent years, and they go 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:20.200 to him wanting smaller chests and smaller behinds and a 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.480 smaller waist, or as it's now known, the snatched waist. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.599 And for a brief period of time, the snatched. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:32.080 Waste was done through rib removal, which is extreme and dangerous, 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.320 to the point that around the world most surgeons just 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.080 flat out refused to perform that procedure because of the 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.080 risks associated. But over the last few years, the apparent 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:47.559 safe alternative to this has taken off, and especially in America, 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:53.320 and this is known technically as rib recontouring, but across 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:58.280 social media and especially TikTok it's called the snatched waist. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:03.079 If I could only pick one underrated procedure in body contouring, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.840 its ribra modeling. And the reason why I say that 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.240 is because ribbra modeling is an innovative technique that allows 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.800 us to further sculpt the body in ways that were 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.640 previously unavailable to us. Even though liposuction is a very 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.439 effective technique at sculpting the body and slimming the waistline, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.439 ribra modeling allows us to take it one step further 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.560 by actually repositioning the ribs slightly inwards, and that allows 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.199 us to achieve anywhere from a two to four inch 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.520 reduction off the waistline, giving you that snatched hourglass look. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.360 And this is where surgeons, essentially, through like a zero 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.960 point eight millimeter pinpoint on your sides and a needle 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:46.400 and ultrasound, they can reshape your eleventh and twelve bottom ribs, 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.440 also known as the floating ribs. And when people talk 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.840 about like invasive surgery and stitches and all that stuff, 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:57.280 this doesn't really have any of that because these no 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.920 wound is just a pinpoint, Like it's all done essentially 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.520 through that I think like a needle or something or 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:08.560 just that zero upon eight millimeter pinpoint. Yeah, like which 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:13.400 sounds crazy and like, how's that even possible? But that 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.080 is the new thing, and this procedure is being promoted 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.160 as something that can't be achieved by LiPo or Tommy 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:25.079 Tuk's or diet or even exercise. You're ether born with 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:30.640 this snatched bobby like waist or you're not, and if 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.840 you want it, this is now the only way to 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.640 get it. Or that's how it's being promoted at least. 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:36.719 What if I told. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.240 You that tomorrow I'm getting a surgery done where they 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:41.440 remove four of. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.400 My ribs, Well then I'd be lying. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:48.200 But I am going to Scottsdale to see doctor Turn 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.440 and we're doing the rib car procedure. Let me tell 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:53.360 you a little bit about it. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.680 A rib car procedure itself. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:13:01.520 Is a way to change the shape of your midsection. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.960 And that's something I've struggled with my entire life. I 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:09.720 am SpongeBob SquarePants, just a big old block a brick, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.280 if you will, No matter what weight I get to, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.240 no matter what exercises I've done, and I've been trying 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.600 my entire life, I have this shape. And for me, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.080 I would prefer something pulled in with a little bit 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.080 more femininity. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.960 And six months ago when I first came across this, 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.160 it was when Mamma Mia, the website in Australia did 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.640 a big feature on it, calling it the next big 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.800 thing on the cosmetic surgery scene. Prior to that, the 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.800 New York Times did a big feature on it. As 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:42.280 it grew in popularity in America especially, and as of 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.400 right now this moment me recording this in Bali, this 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:49.840 procedure is being called the fastest growing cosmetic procedure in 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:50.320 the world. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:55.240 I'm four weeks post up rib remodeling, let's talk about it. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.440 And it's been performed now just over three thousand times, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.679 which is men. It was only a matter of time 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.400 before it hit the Australian market. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.000 If you are new to this channel, my name is Samantha. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.600 I'm a pull start provider in Chicago, Illinois, and this 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.920 video is about my journey for the river modeling procedures. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.240 So a few weeks ago now towards the end of May. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.520 Monique Molly, a girl I met when she first appeared 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.680 on the Bachelor in two thousand and nine. She messaged 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.840 me to say, Hey, Josh, I'm off the Ballei in 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.440 June with a group of other Australian influencers, and we're 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.560 all going to undergo this procedure, and she said, hey, 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.400 it could be good for you to talk about on 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.960 the podcast, like this podcast. The Initially I was like, nah, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.400 because I don't want to be seen to be endorsing 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.400 it in any way because I don't necessarily agree with it. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.200 I don't actually really agree with most cosmetic procedures. Again, 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.560 your body, your choice. Everyone out there make their own decision. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.360 But me personally, I'm just a bit like is most 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.000 of this necessary? Probably not, But again, who am I 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.480 to tell others what to do with their own body? 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.960 And then then after that message from Monigue, I started 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.840 to think more about it, and I started researching, and 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.520 I became curious, and firstly, are as curious who were 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.640 the other girls joining her on this trip? And this 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.480 is before I even realized Beck was one of them, 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.720 who obviously I've done a lot with on this podcast 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:18.760 over the last six months. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.600 And then there's a couple of other mass girls. 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.760 But secondly I then started to think like, hey, regardless 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.720 who these girls are, I think it's fair to say 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.120 that between them they'll have say a minimum of what 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:35.400 two million followers, And that's two million Australian women and 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.280 potential young girls who will soon be having this procedure 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.600 and the results from this trip in BALI forced into 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:46.240 their news feeds, and that's two million people. I thought, Hey, 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.320 they're only going to see these strong before and after 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:54.760 pictures from these influencers, presumably with no wider context or balanced, 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.680 unbiased perspective of this new craze. And that's when I 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.760 started to entertain this idea of coming here to document it. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.320 And I thought, well, I want to find out more 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.880 about this. So I reached out to the company behind 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.160 this trip and I set up a call, and initially 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.720 that was just to find out, like, Yo, what the 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:20.560 hell is actually going on here? Okay, so it's June fourth. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.640 I've just got off the phone with the owners of 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.800 what's it called snatchedwate dot com? Are you? 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:28.800 They're the company which are. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:34.160 Apparently the world's leading destination to rib recontouring I think 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.920 it's called, and they're the ones who have essentially arranged 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.720 this trip for Monique and Beck. And I've now found 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.400 out there's like some other maths people and the other 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.360 influencers going on this trip to Bali, and their business 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.640 model is essentially people go to them being like, hey, 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.440 we want to do this procedure in Bali, and they 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:56.640 then arrange the flights, the hotel, the consultations, the surgery itself, 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.680 the recovery stuff, the checks that all this in a 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.239 like a five star luxury hotelity apparently get someone who 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.320 meets you off the plane like as a VIP and 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:12.359 they're essentially like selling a luxury package hology that just 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.199 happens to have a surgery in the middle of it. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:20.199 And like the hotelity apparently put all the girls uppert 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.440 which I think they're gonna put me up at if 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.679 I go is like voted the best in Asia or something, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.960 and they were saying, like, you know how historically a 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.919 lot of Ozzie would go back in the day to 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.440 was it like Thailand to get the boobs done, and 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.560 like in the UK, it's actually a running joke how 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.560 people go to Turkey to get like Turkey teeth veniers 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:45.040 and hair transplants. Like this is now apparently the new thing, 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.040 Like Bali is apparently now the destination for a lot 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:54.120 of cosmetic procedures. But especially this like rib recontouring thing 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.120 and I'm not call then I just had so many 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.560 questions for the team, and they just said, like, yo, Josh, 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.560 just come over document it, like you can have access 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.440 to whatever you want, you can see whatever you want. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:08.000 And he said, like, sure, a lot of people. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.480 Are doing this procedure for vanity reasons, which I mean 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.560 their choice, but he also said there's a lot more 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.600 to it and like emotional reasons and mums who apparently 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.240 I think he was saying when a lot of women 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.320 are pregnant, their ribs spott and ribs can flare out 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.159 and they don't go back again. I need to research 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.960 into this because I'm just going off their word and 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:30.560 this is also new to me, but I just wanted 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.440 to get my initial thoughts after this phone call. And 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.160 yeah again he just said come on the trip. We'd 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.159 love to have you. And I said potentially. Let me 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.480 think about it, and then I said, like if I do, 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.639 I want to have a few things set out. I 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.760 want a few conditions for you to agree. Like who 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.920 am I saying I've got my conditions. If I come, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.119 you've got to accept my conditions, like the fuck A. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.400 Buy, which yeah, I will. 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.359 Explain properly when I get back to my house okay, 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.359 my studio in a few minutes. I just had that 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.880 call walking around my suburb, which is where I'm recording 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:05.480 this afterwards. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:07.600 If it sounds a bit shit, sorry about that. 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.600 I just wanted to get my initial thoughts because I'm 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.040 all hyped up thinking I'm fucking Louis Ferroux or something 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:14.800 investigating the manus. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.040 For it's not the manus fit, it's the opposite. 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:20.600 It's the ribosphere. Also, lovely weather today for winter if 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.840 anyone's in Sydney. So now I don't even know if 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.280 you'll ever hear this, and by the time you hear 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.439 it might be shit weather. Anyway, right back. 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:26.720 To the point. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:32.080 Back to the point, Okay, my big two conditions to 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.320 even coming here to BALI. Firstly, I said, yo, I 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.720 do not want paying at all, because if you do 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.680 pay me, sure like I do sponsorships on this podcast, 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.560 but if we did that, it's gonna then feel like 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:49.840 a paid endorsement. And endorsing something and just documenting it 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.359 are two very different things. And I don't want to 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.520 be paid because I don't want to endorse it. And 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.359 I said, sure, you can pay for my flight and 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:03.000 accommodation on the agreement that I will provide some coverage 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.960 on this podcast and through my socials. But you're gonna 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.919 have no control or input in any of that. You 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.320 don't get to dictate or know what I'm gonna say. 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.360 I'm not gonna say it's great if I don't think 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:18.120 it's great. I said, my promise is I will come 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.800 and I will be honest about everything how I find it, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.200 and with the girls coming on this trip, I will 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.280 just discuss their journey from start to finish landing in 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.560 Bali to leaving in Bali rather than just posting what 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:34.720 I before and after picture that I actually most media 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.960 are gonna do once they all post about doing this. 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.720 And I also said, like, if I come, I am 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.280 going to ask the girls firstly, why are they doing. 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:45.760 This and is it necessary? 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.439 And also yeah, you're telling me like it's super safe 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.399 and like there's no stitches. There's not really anything because 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:56.440 there there's not really anything too stitch because it's so tiny, 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.720 But is it actually safe? Like again, this is such 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.560 a new thing that isn't even available in Australia. So 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:06.040 I said, for me, anything I do transparency is going 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.840 to be the key. And as Mama Mia said six 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.520 months ago, whether you like it or not, this is 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.879 the next big thing on the cosmetic surgery scene and 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.400 it is going to become harder and harder to escape 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:23.840 and very soon. Now it's become so accessible to Ozzie's, 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.879 it is going to be pushed onto young Australians very 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:32.280 hard through social media and the mainstream media. And I 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.359 at least feel that, hey, all those people need to 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:40.480 know exactly what this entails again rather than just seeing 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.160 it before and after picture, that everyone on this trip 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:47.080 will post showing what I assume will be amazing results. 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.440 And much to my surprise, once I told the company, 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.480 the team behind Snatched Waste that hey, these are my conditions. 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.240