WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 16 September 0:00:02.660 --> 0:00:08.640 This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Shari. Congratulations on 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:11.719 the early success of Bondi Terror. What a spectacular book. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:13.430 Make sure you get a couple of copies. It's one 0:00:13.450 --> 0:00:15.060 of those ones you're going to want to share around. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.050 Tonight on the program, we've got an awful lot to 0:00:17.070 --> 0:00:18.650 get to. I'm going to need a lot more than 0:00:18.670 --> 0:00:22.050 the 60 minutes we've got, so let's not waste a second. 0:00:22.910 --> 0:00:26.750 Trust in the Prime Minister is falling because, unsurprisingly, Australians 0:00:26.790 --> 0:00:29.410 don't like being lied to. even by a bloke that 0:00:29.430 --> 0:00:32.770 they rehired by quite a margin at the election last time. 0:00:33.229 --> 0:00:39.260 And why? Because he tells lies, even telling a lie 0:00:39.340 --> 0:00:46.160 about telling the truth. My word is my bond. And 0:00:46.620 --> 0:00:51.050 the central lie under which the entire Albanese government is 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.390 built was the original promise that cost of living would 0:00:55.430 --> 0:01:00.510 be lower under a Labor government. Now, this is just 0:01:00.570 --> 0:01:05.369 not true. And I must say that as relentless as 0:01:05.430 --> 0:01:07.950 we are on the subject, because it is the number 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:13.090 one concern of people right around the country, the Rest 0:01:13.130 --> 0:01:14.730 of the media sometimes can be a little bit slow 0:01:14.750 --> 0:01:16.789 to catch up. They'll sort of discuss the issue, then 0:01:16.830 --> 0:01:19.250 they'll sort of scurry away. It's not as important to 0:01:19.290 --> 0:01:22.380 discuss each and every day. So it was with a 0:01:22.740 --> 0:01:25.440 little smirk on my face that I started to notice 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.800 that an organisation that has just as much access to 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.000 the daily news cycle as we do seemingly has discovered 0:01:33.050 --> 0:01:38.770 the issue of cost of living. That, yes, of recent times, Maccas, MacBooks, 0:01:39.690 --> 0:01:44.030 And virtually everything else gone up by inflation. Well, well done, Scoop. Exclusive. 0:01:44.330 --> 0:01:48.070 Walkley on its way. Another example, of course, of something 0:01:48.110 --> 0:01:53.280 that is costing more is petrol. Now, the latest numbers 0:01:53.420 --> 0:01:57.600 show us this is the change from June to today. 0:01:58.980 --> 0:02:03.820 And you can see up in Sydney, up in Melbourne, 0:02:04.420 --> 0:02:09.340 up in Brisbane, But is there any chance that there 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.419 is about to be a cut in the 52 cents 0:02:12.540 --> 0:02:16.709 per litre tax that the federal government adds to every 0:02:16.870 --> 0:02:20.210 litre of fuel? Not to mention, of course, the 10% 0:02:20.210 --> 0:02:24.530 tax that is the GST. Well, some people have been asking, 0:02:24.990 --> 0:02:28.230 and the response from Labor MPs is, well, it doesn't 0:02:28.250 --> 0:02:31.090 really affect me. I've got a fuel card, so do 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.500 people pay for petrol? 0:02:35.910 --> 0:02:38.440 Look, we said the excise cut was temporary. We were 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.359 very clear on that right from the beginning. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.980 We did extend it a bit to have it gradually 0:02:44.020 --> 0:02:45.160 return to more normal levels. 0:02:45.210 --> 0:02:46.130 That has played out. 0:02:46.810 --> 0:02:50.210 We're not going to respond to every daily movement on 0:02:50.230 --> 0:02:51.070 the world oil price. 0:02:51.850 --> 0:02:54.270 Excellent. So the government that says it's all about doing 0:02:54.290 --> 0:02:57.010 something about the cost of living is now pig-headedly ignoring 0:02:57.060 --> 0:02:59.519 one of the biggest areas of increase of cost of living, 0:02:59.780 --> 0:03:02.820 and that is petrol. Literally, I'm being asked by people, 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.310 when will the price come down? Obviously, I don't know. 0:03:05.990 --> 0:03:10.500 But it is that top of mind. that people are 0:03:10.620 --> 0:03:13.940 randomly asking about when the petrol price is going to 0:03:13.980 --> 0:03:17.180 come down. The government could drop it by, effectively, 52 0:03:17.180 --> 0:03:19.660 cents per litre, every litre. But no, no, they've got 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.910 to get their little cut, right? They've got to clip 0:03:21.930 --> 0:03:25.490 the ticket on the way through. And then the media 0:03:25.530 --> 0:03:28.370 that have largely sort of come and gone from the 0:03:28.450 --> 0:03:31.490 issue randomly discover that cost of living exists. Well, hang on, 0:03:31.510 --> 0:03:33.549 what about the original promise that if you elected a 0:03:33.590 --> 0:03:38.310 Labor government, things would be lower? Nothing is lower. even 0:03:38.410 --> 0:03:41.740 after some of the subsidies here, there and everywhere. And 0:03:41.780 --> 0:03:45.440 then there is, of course, the great python of interest 0:03:45.500 --> 0:03:49.090 rates that has made paying off the single biggest risk 0:03:49.150 --> 0:03:54.910 you will ever financially take harder. The reality is that 0:03:54.930 --> 0:03:58.750 for people my age in Generation X, we are never 0:03:58.770 --> 0:04:01.270 going to pay off our houses. for a whole bunch 0:04:01.310 --> 0:04:04.110 of reasons, but unlike our parents, that's not going to happen. 0:04:04.850 --> 0:04:06.920 So how exactly a generation of people are going to 0:04:06.940 --> 0:04:09.200 pay for their aged care? Whatever, who cares? Look over there. 0:04:09.460 --> 0:04:15.060 Pauline Henson said something on a podcast. Well, 15 times 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.040 interest rates have gone up under this mob. 15! And 0:04:19.100 --> 0:04:22.630 interest rates are higher than comparable countries because, of course, 0:04:22.990 --> 0:04:24.969 before the war even started, our interest rates were too 0:04:25.010 --> 0:04:29.070 high because our inflation is too high, because the government... 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.880 has not been able to live within its means. Well, 0:04:32.900 --> 0:04:36.580 the expectation is that when they meet, they will increase 0:04:36.620 --> 0:04:42.400 interest rates. But how's this? Three more times. The markets 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:47.680 are starting to talk about a 16th, a 17th and 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:53.279 an 18th interest rate rise under this mob. Now, yes, 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.520 that has automatic political consequences because as the rates go up, 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:00.370 their poll numbers go down. But remember... Every time that 0:05:00.390 --> 0:05:04.090 it's just been held at 15 interest rate rises, the 0:05:04.270 --> 0:05:06.770 media have turned around and said, relief phone buyers today 0:05:06.830 --> 0:05:10.040 because it didn't go up. There's no relief. The python 0:05:10.060 --> 0:05:15.040 of interest rates is squeezing every possible cent out of 0:05:15.060 --> 0:05:18.320 the family budget, tens of thousands of dollars that you 0:05:18.339 --> 0:05:21.620 didn't have to pay on your home loan since this 0:05:21.690 --> 0:05:23.969 government was elected, you now have to pay because this 0:05:24.029 --> 0:05:27.450 government was elected. And they want to pretend nothing to 0:05:27.510 --> 0:05:30.339 see here. Everything's fine. Any problems about the economy is 0:05:30.420 --> 0:05:35.380 talking Australia down. No, you guys have driven Australia down. 0:05:36.140 --> 0:05:37.880 And it is amazing every now and then when the 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:43.559 media does notice what you're living each and every day, 0:05:43.779 --> 0:05:45.860 which is why we talk about it almost each and 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:51.229 every night. Aged care. It is, again, one of the 0:05:51.290 --> 0:05:54.550 great concerns that we either have for ourselves because it 0:05:54.630 --> 0:05:58.190 is heading our way or certainly for parents. But the 0:05:58.230 --> 0:06:00.010 system as we currently have it in Australia, it is 0:06:00.060 --> 0:06:03.520 not acceptable. Put simply, the way that aged care works 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.480 in Australia right now is that you put all your 0:06:07.500 --> 0:06:09.700 money into your house, your house value goes up, you 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.560 pay financial kaplunk. And you'll be able to pay for 0:06:12.620 --> 0:06:14.930 some form of aged care. Hopefully, you'll be able to 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:19.190 get home care before that. But that all depends on 0:06:19.230 --> 0:06:24.409 whether an algorithm decides that you qualify for the right 0:06:24.470 --> 0:06:28.190 amount of care. And this is an algorithm that human 0:06:28.250 --> 0:06:37.000 beings are very reluctant or at times unable to overrule. Now, 0:06:37.020 --> 0:06:39.920 for many people watching, you are in this fight right now. 0:06:40.020 --> 0:06:42.600 It's about you. It's about your parents. Again, which is 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.330 why I lead the program with it tonight. And remember, 0:06:46.370 --> 0:06:49.590 this algorithm comes from the very same people, being the 0:06:49.670 --> 0:06:52.190 current Labor Party, the current government, who made such a 0:06:52.210 --> 0:06:55.990 song and dance about the robo-debt situation. But they themselves introduced, 0:06:56.250 --> 0:07:01.760 not inherited, introduced a system where computer says no is 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.460 now part of your aged care. 0:07:06.310 --> 0:07:08.469 Some of the new policies and processes that have been 0:07:08.510 --> 0:07:13.880 implemented by the providers has and will cause more pain 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.480 for a lot of the older people and their families. 0:07:16.900 --> 0:07:19.360 By self-managing, we thought we'd be able to achieve more. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.240 It is an active choice of government to have set 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.710 up a scheme that is the one that's playing out 0:07:28.750 --> 0:07:34.110 right now. And amazingly, some Freedom of Information documents have 0:07:34.150 --> 0:07:38.250 given us an insight into just how screwed up the 0:07:38.290 --> 0:07:42.190 system was. This system invented by the government that they 0:07:42.250 --> 0:07:44.710 assumed the algorithm would do a certain amount of work 0:07:44.790 --> 0:07:46.930 and then the human would be able to double-check it 0:07:47.210 --> 0:07:50.150 rather than the human would have to find a way 0:07:50.190 --> 0:07:55.630 to overrule the algorithm. This was released today in the 0:07:55.690 --> 0:07:59.490 Daily Telegraph, the Herald Sun, Courier Mail, Adelaide Advertiser and, 0:07:59.510 --> 0:08:05.520 of course, the Mercury in Tasmania. The minister was blindsided. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.560 In fact, they didn't work out they had a problem 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.500 here until a couple of days before it all was 0:08:12.540 --> 0:08:16.680 made public. The Department of Health, Disability and Age briefing 0:08:16.740 --> 0:08:19.400 released under Freedom of Information laws, remember the ones this 0:08:19.420 --> 0:08:21.790 government tried to make harder for you to be able 0:08:21.810 --> 0:08:25.910 to see what's happening on the inside because the House 0:08:25.950 --> 0:08:29.110 of Transparency isn't quite as transparent as they promised it 0:08:29.170 --> 0:08:32.150 to be, exposes the last minute panic when Minister Wray 0:08:32.740 --> 0:08:37.559 learnt that humans would be legally unable to change decisions 0:08:37.780 --> 0:08:42.699 where they didn't agree with the algorithm on October 29, 0:08:42.700 --> 0:08:46.020 three days before the whole thing was launched on November 0:08:46.179 --> 0:08:50.860 the 1st. So they designed a system that they couldn't overrule. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.720 The briefing marked urgent, stated that this was contrary to 0:08:54.740 --> 0:08:56.319 statements that had been made in the media in the 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.760 lead up to the change. Jeez, what a surprise. They'll 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.610 tell you one thing publicly, they'll do another thing to 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:06.550 you privately. although it is not believed that this was 0:09:07.210 --> 0:09:10.850 referred to comments made by the minister. You know, monumental 0:09:10.870 --> 0:09:12.650 stuff up in the run-up to the changes last year, 0:09:12.670 --> 0:09:15.150 the department had been telling assessors they would be able 0:09:15.170 --> 0:09:18.050 to override the system prior to realising that was not 0:09:18.090 --> 0:09:23.969 the case. They designed a system that is intentionally screwing 0:09:24.030 --> 0:09:28.270 people over. People who may have paid taxes their whole life, 0:09:28.429 --> 0:09:31.570 may have voted for Labor all their life, but they 0:09:31.610 --> 0:09:32.030 don't care. 0:09:32.090 --> 0:09:32.270 Why? 0:09:32.330 --> 0:09:34.870 Because, you know, it's all about under-50s, right? You know, 0:09:34.970 --> 0:09:36.990 over 50s, One Nation, Libs, they can have them because 0:09:37.010 --> 0:09:39.469 there's more under 50s and that's where we're going to 0:09:39.490 --> 0:09:43.360 win elections. But just like their attitude towards veterans, their 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:48.240 attitudes towards older people tells us everything, everything about the 0:09:48.380 --> 0:09:52.080 decency and the lack of priorities inside the government itself. 0:09:53.260 --> 0:09:56.730 There is a Senate inquiry right now into all of this. 0:09:58.429 --> 0:10:02.219 Professor Cathy Everett, Egger, who is from the University of 0:10:02.260 --> 0:10:04.100 New South Wales, an expert in all of this, she 0:10:04.140 --> 0:10:07.610 referred to the algorithm as, quote, fatally flawed, really bad 0:10:07.750 --> 0:10:12.569 and indefensible. And that's, of course, the algorithm that in 0:10:12.630 --> 0:10:14.869 part can decide how much support you may need to 0:10:14.890 --> 0:10:17.370 be able to stay in your house. If you end 0:10:17.450 --> 0:10:20.380 up in a facility, and yes, while the vast majority 0:10:20.390 --> 0:10:22.460 of people in it are doing decent things, there are 0:10:22.500 --> 0:10:26.220 plenty of examples of the system not covering the Australians 0:10:26.420 --> 0:10:28.800 who had to sell their house and take every cent 0:10:28.820 --> 0:10:32.620 they could to pay for their care in an aged 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:38.300 care facility. Aged Care Watch is run by the unions, 0:10:39.690 --> 0:10:44.990 and the unions themselves take reports about everything From the 0:10:45.090 --> 0:10:47.310 cleanliness of a joint all the way through to missing 0:10:47.370 --> 0:10:49.470 meals and the rest of it. As you can see, 0:10:49.690 --> 0:10:54.980 there is not a part of populated Australia, significantly populated Australia, 0:10:55.000 --> 0:11:01.520 that is not covered by complaints. Whistleblowers have revealed shocking 0:11:01.580 --> 0:11:05.340 neglect inside the aged care homes. Any urgency here? No. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.240 Because they're old people and they don't seem to matter 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.990 either in the media or the political environment. Well, bugger that. 0:11:12.590 --> 0:11:16.490 If you're watching, you do. And then there was another 0:11:16.530 --> 0:11:19.329 story over the past couple of days where some of 0:11:19.390 --> 0:11:24.390 the providers have been, to use an impolite term, taking 0:11:24.410 --> 0:11:27.830 the piss. And by that I mean taking money. Have 0:11:27.850 --> 0:11:29.309 a listen to an example that popped up in the 0:11:29.330 --> 0:11:32.360 past couple of days on Channel 9. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.740 Last November, the Albanese government changed how Australians in aged 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.859 care were charged for so-called lifestyle options. It allowed some 0:11:39.900 --> 0:11:43.580 providers to get greedy. $ 5 per day for residents to 0:11:43.620 --> 0:11:47.600 watch their own TV in their room. Fitness classes, extra. 0:11:47.940 --> 0:11:52.260 The opportunity to choose between two meals, extra. A daily 0:11:52.260 --> 0:11:56.630 $ 2. 50 charge, adding up to a whopping $ 900 a year 0:11:57.070 --> 0:11:59.250 for one night out at a restaurant. 0:12:00.550 --> 0:12:03.270 Seriously, this is the system they changed, as well as 0:12:03.290 --> 0:12:05.520 the algorithm that they changed, as well as the cost 0:12:05.540 --> 0:12:08.240 of living that goes through the roof that they promised 0:12:08.260 --> 0:12:10.960 to do something about. Jeez, what a surprise. People don't 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.829 trust the Prime Minister anymore. As for the Victorian Premier, 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:19.190 Ben Carroll, latest opinion polling there from Emma Kosmaris at 0:12:19.270 --> 0:12:24.579 the Redbridge Accent Organisation is worth a read here because nothing. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.460 has changed when it comes to the future of the 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.640 Labor Party and time is running out. Yes, they have 0:12:31.510 --> 0:12:35.929 quarterised in terms of the preferred premier situation in that 0:12:35.950 --> 0:12:38.090 it is not as bad as it may have previously 0:12:38.130 --> 0:12:39.869 been and One Nation does take an awful lot of 0:12:39.890 --> 0:12:43.760 numbers away. But have a look here. The primary vote 0:12:44.179 --> 0:12:48.320 between One Nation and the Liberal Party and National Party 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:52.300 that theoretically The voters, forget what the organisations do, the 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.220 voters would be preferencing amongst the two parties that most 0:12:55.400 --> 0:13:01.850 represent changing the government is now 54%. But fascinating to 0:13:01.890 --> 0:13:04.550 watch in all of this is firstly how high that 0:13:04.650 --> 0:13:09.510 Greens number is. The Independent and other is not as 0:13:09.580 --> 0:13:11.240 much of a play in Victoria due to a whole 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.040 bunch of spending reasons. But I want to show you 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.940 why preferences matter. It is a point that I have 0:13:17.980 --> 0:13:20.260 made many times before, but I have to show you 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.540 the receipts that back the opinion up. There is a 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.199 significant number of people who vote Liberal who will not 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.920 preference One Nation, who ironically, despite being as furious as 0:13:32.970 --> 0:13:36.270 they are with the government in Victoria, would return the 0:13:36.309 --> 0:13:39.309 government in Victoria if One Nation ended up as a 0:13:39.350 --> 0:13:43.030 more popular option in some seats. If the battle comes 0:13:43.070 --> 0:13:46.030 down to a battle between the Coalition Party with the 0:13:46.100 --> 0:13:49.260 largest number of seats, versus Labor, with the second biggest 0:13:49.300 --> 0:13:53.200 number of seats. The Liberal Party, with the Coalition and 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:57.820 the National Party, preferences from One Nation gets them to 56%. 0:13:58.140 --> 0:14:02.350 It flips to 53% Labor. Labor's numbers go up by 0:14:02.570 --> 0:14:06.690 nine points, depending on the success of One Nation finishing 0:14:06.850 --> 0:14:11.850 in front of the Liberals. Hence why. The argument that 0:14:11.870 --> 0:14:14.230 will be run by Ben Carroll and the Labor Party 0:14:14.309 --> 0:14:18.610 will exclusively be about One Nation, trying to pretend that 0:14:18.630 --> 0:14:21.890 they are not fighting the Liberals who have a higher 0:14:21.930 --> 0:14:26.040 primary vote, a higher number when it comes to preferred premier. Instead, 0:14:26.180 --> 0:14:28.420 they will be trying to pretend that One Nation is 0:14:28.460 --> 0:14:32.440 the boogeyman, the boogeyman in each and every seat, because 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.470 that's their best chance to hold onto power, power they 0:14:35.570 --> 0:14:39.220 no longer deserve to hold. But I've had that view for, well, 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.740 almost as long as they have been in power. The 0:14:42.820 --> 0:14:48.770 potholes issue, again, perfect example of how the Premier somehow thinks, oh, 0:14:48.810 --> 0:14:51.370 I've got the great answer to get through the 6pm news, 0:14:51.410 --> 0:14:54.310 but makes the whole world harder for himself. Remember a 0:14:54.330 --> 0:14:57.250 couple of days ago, this turned deadly. 0:15:00.370 --> 0:15:03.880 A 71-year-old motorcyclist died when he hit a pothole on 0:15:03.900 --> 0:15:04.840 the Western Highway. 0:15:05.100 --> 0:15:08.100 Peter Mason was riding along the Western Highway near. 0:15:07.940 --> 0:15:12.460 Ballarat when tragedy struck and the pothole still hasn't been repaired. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.359 And despite the fact that the Premier said, well, it's 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.370 a top priority and send everyone out and we're even 0:15:18.390 --> 0:15:22.470 thinking about taking prisoners out of the jails to fix 0:15:22.510 --> 0:15:24.610 the potholes, when he's confronted about, OK, so how many 0:15:24.630 --> 0:15:27.580 have you done? This happened.... 0:15:30.790 --> 0:15:32.890 I'd have to give you the exact details, Paul, but 0:15:32.930 --> 0:15:35.140 we've committed to remove half a million. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.760 You can't tell me how many have been done so far? 0:15:37.780 --> 0:15:39.240 We've got to give you those details because I know 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:44.760 the crews are out right now. You see, again, rather 0:15:44.820 --> 0:15:47.479 than coming up with a fair dinkum fix that you 0:15:47.500 --> 0:15:49.680 would use all of your power to be able to 0:15:49.740 --> 0:15:51.739 be on top of. Now, again, the idea of how 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.470 many exactly, you can give a small break to any 0:15:55.540 --> 0:15:58.570 leader to be able to be not aware of that. However, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.900 you would imagine that you'd be able to roughly guess 0:16:02.500 --> 0:16:05.230 because the person who does have a little more responsibility 0:16:05.290 --> 0:16:09.810 further down the chain, you'd be calling every day that 0:16:09.830 --> 0:16:13.290 there would be a demand that an A4 piece of 0:16:13.330 --> 0:16:16.970 paper is produced and on your desk each and every 0:16:17.010 --> 0:16:19.740 day that provides a number. And then again, if you 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.380 can't remember exactly, you can vaguely say, oh, 2,000 yesterdays. 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:25.800 I mean, remember, of course, we were able to get 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.680 a daily update about the number of people who were 0:16:27.710 --> 0:16:30.770 coughing in Victoria at any one time. When the swizzle 0:16:30.790 --> 0:16:36.290 sticks were going positive, oh, instant information, daily press conference. 0:16:37.070 --> 0:16:40.040 No such information about fixing holes that are killing people. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:42.920 It's up to you, Victoria. You get a chance to 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:49.520 flush them. Now, of course, it is a couple of 0:16:49.540 --> 0:16:53.520 years on from when Donald Trump was almost assassinated. Do 0:16:53.540 --> 0:16:56.180 you remember this? It was the middle of July in 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.260 the election year. Many argue this was the moment where 0:17:00.300 --> 0:17:03.950 whatever doubt was there disappeared. And he, of course, took 0:17:04.070 --> 0:17:07.010 the run towards the presidency. I love in that moment 0:17:07.050 --> 0:17:10.450 the fight, fight, fight image. But there is something very 0:17:10.530 --> 0:17:14.330 strange about something that was as significant as that, that 0:17:14.410 --> 0:17:17.350 did injure Donald Trump, but obviously, potentially, you know, a 0:17:17.430 --> 0:17:20.889 millimetre here, a millimetre there, could have killed one of 0:17:20.930 --> 0:17:22.710 the two people who was running for president and a 0:17:22.810 --> 0:17:26.770 former president. The stake's obviously high, hence why global news 0:17:26.810 --> 0:17:28.550 and all the discussion that was in and around it. 0:17:29.070 --> 0:17:33.670 But why is there such little follow-up here? Now, the 0:17:34.410 --> 0:17:37.670 alleged shooter, and you have to say alleged shooter here because, 0:17:37.690 --> 0:17:42.500 of course, there wasn't a court process because... confronted and killed. 0:17:43.100 --> 0:17:47.100 But what do we know about this person? Well, apparently 0:17:47.140 --> 0:17:52.700 some documents have been slowly but surely released, not fully redacted, 0:17:52.740 --> 0:17:55.980 but at least released to people that are trying to 0:17:56.030 --> 0:17:58.590 get to know some of the behind the scenes here. 0:17:59.050 --> 0:18:02.230 And it gives us a little more picture about the shooter. Now, 0:18:02.270 --> 0:18:04.109 as you know, on this program, I'll show you a 0:18:04.130 --> 0:18:10.140 graphic of what their name is, but I'm A large 0:18:10.180 --> 0:18:12.280 part of the documents has to do with the evidence 0:18:12.340 --> 0:18:17.200 that his father had given to the FBI as part 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.790 of the investigation. Now, it will not surprise you about 0:18:20.850 --> 0:18:26.109 how out of his mind the alleged shooter was. And 0:18:26.150 --> 0:18:29.270 apparently that problem had gone all the way from birth. 0:18:30.130 --> 0:18:32.629 But interestingly, we get a little more of a picture. 0:18:32.690 --> 0:18:36.970 Who was this person? At one point, they wanted to 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:42.580 join the military... to work in nuclear submarines, but this 0:18:42.630 --> 0:18:46.760 was more just an idea that he thought it would 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.640 be cool, according to the FBI, from an interview with 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:54.359 the gunman's father. The person then, in terms of when 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.600 they started playing with guns, started going to the gun 0:18:57.660 --> 0:19:01.740 club around the time of the pandemic and apparently he 0:19:01.780 --> 0:19:04.620 was a terrible shot. He couldn't hit the paper target. 0:19:07.369 --> 0:19:09.369 It took four to five years of practice before he 0:19:09.390 --> 0:19:13.109 could even do that. This is where it starts to 0:19:13.130 --> 0:19:17.310 get scary. Eventually, with practice, Thomas became a better marksman. 0:19:17.330 --> 0:19:21.570 My apologies for using his name. Coming home with range targets, 0:19:21.730 --> 0:19:23.510 showing off to his dad how well he did with 0:19:23.570 --> 0:19:26.850 a target placed at over 100 yards away. He found 0:19:26.890 --> 0:19:29.990 that he was able to shoot even further distances after 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.879 he bought a particular sight and eventually became very knowledgeable 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.060 in how to measure and zero in on a target. 0:19:37.910 --> 0:19:40.470 and knew exactly how many clicks that it would take 0:19:41.390 --> 0:19:45.440 for the specific angle on the site. In terms of 0:19:45.460 --> 0:19:49.310 his politics, he apparently called himself a Republican. He didn't 0:19:49.350 --> 0:19:53.300 like the welfare state and was against woke ideology, but 0:19:53.460 --> 0:19:59.719 never really espoused the Republican ideology. That says, the father 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.919 of the son, who instead preferred debating government policies in 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:09.090 a general sense. His son expressed shock at the Capitol 0:20:09.270 --> 0:20:12.850 riot in 2001, in line with the shock that almost 0:20:12.910 --> 0:20:16.850 everyone experienced that day. His father said that his son 0:20:17.010 --> 0:20:22.840 did not believe the 2020 presidential election was rigged. So again, 0:20:23.380 --> 0:20:27.600 no great insight here into what you would imagine there 0:20:27.619 --> 0:20:30.540 would be as full a picture as possible. Now, obviously, 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.550 with the subject not here, but still a series of 0:20:33.590 --> 0:20:36.489 people around. But isn't it always amazing that these incredibly 0:20:36.730 --> 0:20:42.350 massive stories get very little follow-up? Now, yes, we are 0:20:42.430 --> 0:20:46.320 all grateful that this did not become a presidential assassination, 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.000 but it's as close as any of us have seen, 0:20:50.420 --> 0:20:53.260 and certainly anyone has seen, because all of it was 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:58.639 happening in real time, live on camera. Just a little update, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:00.899 because occasionally the news should do that, shouldn't it? They 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.320 should turn around and update a story. Hey, remember that 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.060 really massive thing that happened? Well, we've learnt a little 0:21:06.100 --> 0:21:11.270 bit more. Let's check in. Now, as for the American 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:17.130 political scheme, system, I should say, in November, of course, 0:21:17.150 --> 0:21:19.510 there's going to be the midterms, and then two years away, 0:21:19.550 --> 0:21:21.770 there will be the vote to replace Donald Trump as 0:21:21.790 --> 0:21:23.290 the President of the United States. 0:21:23.750 --> 0:21:23.950 Now. 0:21:24.410 --> 0:21:26.590 Trump will not be like any president. I don't imagine 0:21:26.609 --> 0:21:29.010 the term lame duck is truly going to apply until, 0:21:29.210 --> 0:21:35.080 you know, 1159 on January 20, 2029, the minute before 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.210 he hands over to the next president. Who that will 0:21:37.260 --> 0:21:40.880 be is fascinating. Now, J.D. Vance is the current vice president, 0:21:40.980 --> 0:21:45.380 is assumed to be the Republican candidate in a couple 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.120 of years' time. In fact, the latest opinion polls show 0:21:48.140 --> 0:21:51.460 you here that the number one choice, J.D. Vance, number 0:21:51.500 --> 0:21:55.030 two choice, Marco Rubio, number three choice... Donald Trump Jr. 0:21:56.930 --> 0:21:59.790 But the assumption is because generally, let's be honest, every 0:21:59.869 --> 0:22:02.379 president is a reaction to the previous president, hence why 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.879 it goes red, blue, red, blue, red, blue, blue, red, blue, right? There's, 0:22:06.060 --> 0:22:08.760 I think, George H.W. 0:22:08.780 --> 0:22:10.220 Bush. W. 0:22:10.220 --> 0:22:14.470 Bush's father would be the latest example of... a two-term 0:22:14.510 --> 0:22:16.850 president being able to be replaced by his vice president 0:22:16.869 --> 0:22:19.609 pushing through to a third term. So the assumption is 0:22:20.090 --> 0:22:21.300 that it is a race that is up for the 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.760 taking when it comes to the Democrats. Again, let's have 0:22:23.780 --> 0:22:26.520 a look at the polls there. Kamala Harris currently at 0:22:26.540 --> 0:22:29.000 the top with about a quarter of the vote, believe 0:22:29.020 --> 0:22:32.459 it or not. Followed by Gavin Newsom, who is the 0:22:32.540 --> 0:22:38.540 governor of California. Buttigieg, who was the former transport secretary. AOC, 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.570 the super hardcore lefty. And then we're off down into 0:22:41.609 --> 0:22:44.190 the single figures. Why am I talking about all of 0:22:44.230 --> 0:22:47.090 this two and a bit years out? Because Gavin Newsom 0:22:47.230 --> 0:22:50.200 is playing a little bit of 4D chess here, seeing 0:22:50.260 --> 0:22:52.379 that he's got a good number, but it's not a 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.960 good enough number, and he knows that Kamala will either 0:22:56.220 --> 0:22:59.560 beat him, based off these opinion polls, or he has 0:22:59.580 --> 0:23:01.300 to find a way to push her out of the race. 0:23:02.300 --> 0:23:05.980 So amazingly, he did an interview with CNN where the 0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:08.899 man who's obviously running for president, desperately wants to be president, 0:23:08.940 --> 0:23:12.250 has the presidential hair, is pretending he'd get out of 0:23:12.290 --> 0:23:16.570 the way If Kamala decides to run, this, in my view, 0:23:16.630 --> 0:23:18.719 is a way of trying to smoke out Kamala for 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.620 her to confirm she's not going to run. But this 0:23:22.660 --> 0:23:25.280 interview happened in the middle of a fishing expedition because 0:23:25.300 --> 0:23:26.600 that's what blokes do. 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.160 You're not even the only Californian. 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:33.429 No, right. You've got Ro Khanna, Kamala. Yeah, I don't 0:23:33.450 --> 0:23:35.350 know if she runs, but we'll see. I know she's 0:23:35.369 --> 0:23:38.570 called around. Yeah, but I wouldn't run if she ran. 0:23:39.730 --> 0:23:44.300 If she runs, you will not? Of course not. So 0:23:44.340 --> 0:23:46.940 I get very clever. Megan Kelly picks up on this. 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:48.370 We'll have a chat with her a little bit later 0:23:48.380 --> 0:23:49.389 in the show, but I've got to give you a 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:49.910 sneak peek. 0:23:51.190 --> 0:23:53.050