WEBVTT - START HERE! Did Brydie blow her $100,000 inheritance?

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning everyone, and welcome back to Sugar Mamma's Fireplay,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast that ignites your financial journey with inspiring stories

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<v Speaker 1>and innovative strategies. I am your host's financial planner, Canna Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>and today this is a start Here series where we

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<v Speaker 1>have frank, open and honest discussions about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>and how and where to simply get started so that

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<v Speaker 1>you are well and truly on trap to see your

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<v Speaker 1>financial goals and dreams finally flourish. Now, as always, I

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<v Speaker 1>must do my general advice warning and of course let

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<v Speaker 1>you know that my financial planning license details are in

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast notes. The reason why I say this to

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<v Speaker 1>you in particular for these start here series is you

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<v Speaker 1>must use all of my content as an educational guide only.

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<v Speaker 1>Never am I giving you personal advice, product advice, or

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<v Speaker 1>investment advice, so that you understand exactly where you need

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<v Speaker 1>to go, learn more of and maybe even get personal

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<v Speaker 1>advice from a financial planner when you are ready to

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<v Speaker 1>roll with your financial journey. All right, let us begin.

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<v Speaker 1>So this morning's episode is a bit of a special one.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in for a treat. Instead of me normally reading

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<v Speaker 1>your dms, we actually have someone here with us right now,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're going to be listening to our chat, our

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<v Speaker 1>conversation now. Bridy is thirty years old. She's gone through

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I have a feeling that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are going to really relate to what she

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<v Speaker 1>has gone through and where she is right now and

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<v Speaker 1>what she wants to achieve. So with great honor, I

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<v Speaker 1>introduce to you Bridy for our series start here. BRIDI

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming in. Can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>to me, like where you're at right now and like

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on and why you would like me to

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<v Speaker 1>I guess give you some general guidance as to where

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<v Speaker 1>to get started.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for one, we're sitting in a beautiful home. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a testament to like how you've built your dream, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like already why I want to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 2>Why I want your help? Yeah, is I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to even create a financial dream. I'm like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>scared of the housing staff. I'm single, I'm not thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about buying a property. I want to live a fun, full,

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<v Speaker 2>exciting life. I'm thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Liked it be tied down. You just want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a complete flexibility you at the luxury I want.

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<v Speaker 2>To enjoy my life, like because I work hard and

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<v Speaker 2>I want happiness, but I feel like really scared when

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<v Speaker 2>I look at Okay, these houses are costing this much,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is how much you need to live off,

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<v Speaker 2>and got to create a career that brings in home

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<v Speaker 2>this much, and I'm just like trying to overwhelming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>i feel like I would never get there. Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>a belief thing I know that I have. That is

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<v Speaker 2>maybe something I need to work on too, But it's

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<v Speaker 2>completely overwhelming. And so I've actually buried my head in

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<v Speaker 2>the sand. Never saved books. Let's talk about it like

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<v Speaker 2>I've never saved.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a huge judge.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot we could unpack in terms of mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, why don't we unpack those mistakes so that we

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<v Speaker 1>can deal with them properly. You hit them in the

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<v Speaker 1>butt and process them and digest them and maybe dissect

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<v Speaker 1>them so that we can then clear the path for

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<v Speaker 1>goodness and for abundance and prosperity. And you touched on mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>Mindset is everything. If you go into a financial journey

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<v Speaker 1>thinking this is hard, it's confusing, overwhelming, their mindset is

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<v Speaker 1>going to show in the results and there won't be

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<v Speaker 1>much results. But if you go and going, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to break this down. Yes it might be

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<v Speaker 1>at times a little bit challenging and confusing, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can do this, and I'll reach out for help and

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<v Speaker 1>get people to explain things when I get stuck, and

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<v Speaker 1>I won't do anything until I'm one hundred percent sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly your energy starts to shift and you start to realize, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it's maybe not as bad as we think it is,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's unpack it. It's bad, Okay, I don't mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not bad Like there's I've been a fincial planner

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<v Speaker 1>for over twenty years. I have seen everything and heard everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other day I was doing a keynote piece

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<v Speaker 1>for PwC for their staff on financial wellness, and someone

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<v Speaker 1>asked me a question about what I'd seen, and look,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen someone with three hundred and sixty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>credit and credit card debt.

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<v Speaker 2>Like made me feel better. It made me feel better

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<v Speaker 2>about what I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to tell you, what, unless someone comes to

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<v Speaker 1>me with more credit card debt than that, and that

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<v Speaker 1>person continued to bury their head in the sand. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the point. Like it doesn't matter about your history,

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<v Speaker 1>like you really need to be kind and compassionate about that.

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<v Speaker 1>What matters is what you're doing going forward and understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a choice, and the choice is right here,

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<v Speaker 1>right now in front of you. To step up. You

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<v Speaker 1>arm yourself with financial education and don't try and do

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<v Speaker 1>it all at the same time. Yeah, don't try and

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<v Speaker 1>master a budget overnight. That's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>True.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes practice. And it's like training exercise. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>can't just go for a run and be fit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go for a run three four times

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<v Speaker 1>a week, and you have to try and run faster

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<v Speaker 1>or run further. And then you and you start with

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<v Speaker 1>like one minute exactly exactly, and then you might do

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<v Speaker 1>some weights in there because you're focusing on your cardio

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<v Speaker 1>and you need some strength training or some flexibility or

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<v Speaker 1>to some yoga in there. So it's not overnight. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a journey. Then you have a setback where you might

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<v Speaker 1>binge on a weekend, yeah, or maybe you get injured

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of exercise so you lose some fitness.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same with money. It's never magical and overnight,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it is, that's a red flag. Something is

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<v Speaker 1>not sustainable and it's only a quick fix or a

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<v Speaker 1>band aid. All right, that's not for my ted talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear about you. What's been going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the past and where are you at right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the thing that is the hardest is

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<v Speaker 2>like the present still has remnants of the mistake of

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<v Speaker 2>the past. So I was given an inheritance when my

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<v Speaker 2>grandfather died when I was in like year twelve, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was one hundred and ten thousand, okay, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand left. Okay, told you you were going to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I all, not all. I have got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to say about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know. I don't even know what a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty year old spends their like, I can't even tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not going to rag on my parents because

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<v Speaker 2>like they were doing their best, but I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any tools. So my both, like my brothers and I

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<v Speaker 2>got the same amount of a your older brother and

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<v Speaker 2>a younger brother, and they both have houses in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>They use that money to buy property.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're both in the other complication of my story

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like is that they're both in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more of sort of a set path with their career.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a bit more of like a PC journey.

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<v Speaker 2>I've really not known and I probably still don't fully

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm meant to be doing with my full

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<v Speaker 2>time work. I love what I do currently, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know that I don't have like a, oh, Brady's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a banker or I'm a professional dancer. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is like roughly how much I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>making You.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't feel like you've got your career path necessarily at all? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but why should we?

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like really embarrassing to just be thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>be like I have three jobs and people are shocked

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<v Speaker 2>when they find out how addim which is super flattering,

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<v Speaker 2>but like a lot of my friends are like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one studying psychology, Like it's just they've got this bow

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 1>They seem to have it all sorted and you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're, yeah, you're just treading water, keeping your head

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<v Speaker 1>above it. Yeah, And in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Way I know that part of how because I've got

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<v Speaker 2>three part time jobs, which I really enjoy all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not one cohesive picture. If you ask me what

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<v Speaker 2>I do, it doesn't really say I don't have an answer.

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<v Speaker 1>For people when they ask me that, Well, yeah, can

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<v Speaker 1>I just I've got so much to say about first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, about the three jobs. To me, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no shame in that, and you're thinking about it the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way. You're thinking that you're a bit of a joke,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a rid of a mess, and that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>three different.

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<v Speaker 2>Jobs, exactly how I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>But see, I don't think you're a freelancer. He can

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<v Speaker 1>choose your contracts as to who you want to work

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<v Speaker 1>for and when and on what terms and now on

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<v Speaker 1>how much, And to me, you actually have complete control

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<v Speaker 1>and flexibility in your life. And I think that sounds liberating.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any shame in that. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is the age that we work in now, is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are moving away from being on this

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<v Speaker 1>one employer yes level.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I feel like I'm like the lab rat

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<v Speaker 2>for that kind of thinking, Like it's always been that

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<v Speaker 2>for me, Like I never thought about UNI in high

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<v Speaker 2>school and even last year I tried to force myself

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<v Speaker 2>into choosing a career of occupational therapy and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to signing the dotted line of applying for UNI, and

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<v Speaker 2>I realized I am so bored at the thought of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I didn't do it, and I was I

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<v Speaker 2>called my mom and I was expecting her to be like, oh, variety,

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<v Speaker 2>but she was so empowering and she was just like, really,

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<v Speaker 2>proud of you for being honest with yourself. And I'm like, really,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm dirty, and don't you just want me to

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<v Speaker 2>like know?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what you're doing is great, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>would be proud of you. I think you've got You're

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<v Speaker 1>being authentic, You're being real to who you are. You

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<v Speaker 1>know where you're bound, who are on, what works for

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<v Speaker 1>you and what doesn't. And you're not going to prescribe

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<v Speaker 1>to this herd mentality of go to school, go to

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<v Speaker 1>university or some sort of tertiary qualification, which career path,

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<v Speaker 1>and stick to that for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>That to me sounds boring as bad shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it does.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you look at any entrepreneur that has achieved something,

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<v Speaker 1>so many of them have actually found their calling later

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<v Speaker 1>in life in their forties, fifties, seventies, I think don't

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<v Speaker 1>quote me on this, but if you look up the

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<v Speaker 1>story of Colonel Sanders, I think it is EMBITEDKFC. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was maybe in his sixties when really came

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<v Speaker 1>up with the ingredients for Kentucky Frey chicken. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of these stories. I probably should have known about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had some stats on me, godding, but obviously we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Just freaking going to give the things you see on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram of like Oprah forty, Steve Carrell fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's so many stories like that. Who is the

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<v Speaker 1>woman who is amazing? She used actually be a stockbroker

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<v Speaker 1>working in finance and is now like kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>housewife guru which works for Oprah. The name will come

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<v Speaker 1>to me in a second, but she's a self made

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<v Speaker 1>multimillionaire that hated her job in finance, was a stockbroker

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, was actually quite successful, but her passion

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<v Speaker 1>was actually decorating and designing homewordes and setting homes up

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<v Speaker 1>to be efficient and welcoming and you know, how to

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<v Speaker 1>get stains out of things. She's like, go to guru

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<v Speaker 1>with those sorts of things. And she's sold books and

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<v Speaker 1>courses and amazing stories. So don't flick people's judgment. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing I want to say about the money

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the inheritance. There is a lot to say

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<v Speaker 1>for people who put inheritances in trust for adult children

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<v Speaker 1>and only to be released once they become ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was we had spoken about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you were very young. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>blown that money even entering in you know, even being

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<v Speaker 1>an investor at.

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<v Speaker 2>That age ninety thos. I'm not talking like two hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I think also, like where I might have a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a poverty mentality was when you don't grow up

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<v Speaker 2>with a ton of money and you get some And

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<v Speaker 2>no shade to my parents, but I think the thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that I naturally just had in me was like this

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<v Speaker 2>is your one shot, almost like I wasn't even deserving

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<v Speaker 2>to have this. I didn't earn it, so I was

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<v Speaker 2>given this like thing of like, holy crap. It was

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<v Speaker 2>every time there was spending, there was such deep guilt

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<v Speaker 2>because it was like, I'll spend, but this is my

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<v Speaker 2>one shot. This is my one shot. So I remember

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<v Speaker 2>like those purchases just flying through my card and I

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<v Speaker 2>just felt even like it pushed me further and further

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<v Speaker 2>down into like basically what was a secret. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>tell my parents that I was spending it at the

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<v Speaker 2>rate that I was, and I think we're spending, like

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<v Speaker 2>you really think your appetite is going to be satiated,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you think it's like food, Like I'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>burger and I'll have chips and then i'm done. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'll buy that designer coat and then I'm good. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got one winter coat. I even tried to like buy

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<v Speaker 2>a capsule wardrobe, but it just kept going. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>kept buying.

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<v Speaker 1>A bottomless pit.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the closet I bought, like I went

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<v Speaker 2>on the real reel and I didn't even keep them

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<v Speaker 2>because then not even good purchases. So I was just spending.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so an element of self worth, a complete lack

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<v Speaker 1>of self worth, I would say, and then almost a

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<v Speaker 1>self destruction mode. Yeah, to almost get rid of the

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<v Speaker 1>money because you weren't worthy of it. So you had

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<v Speaker 1>almost said to wash yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like washing. Yeah, it was like washing it away.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just and some of the purchases were truly justified,

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<v Speaker 2>like got a water filter, like things that I actually

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<v Speaker 2>still have, but I know a lot of it was

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<v Speaker 2>just luxurious living. I'd be like, I'll go get a

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<v Speaker 2>massage because I'm stressed, or like I'll go get my

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<v Speaker 2>nails done because I've got this thing. There was always

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<v Speaker 2>this running conversation in my mind of justification of why

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<v Speaker 2>I was spending the money, and I remember my friends

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<v Speaker 2>would be like, how do you have the money for that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like I had this dirty secret that I was

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<v Speaker 2>like hiding.

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<v Speaker 1>It was bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And asofce, bags just turned up at the house every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. I don't say wow to judge them, saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many girlfriends. I've never inherited money, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it's like, but I have girlfriends

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<v Speaker 1>who've done very very similar things, right, So you're not

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<v Speaker 1>alone with inheritance. Yes, absolutely, inheritance from grandparents and they've

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<v Speaker 1>lied to their parents about where that money has gone

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<v Speaker 1>and then anonymous. But also you know, it's a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of financial literacy. And some of those godfriends just drowning

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<v Speaker 1>in debt still today after receiving that money because it

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<v Speaker 1>put them on a lifestyle creep where they had to

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<v Speaker 1>keep up with it spending and then you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>the inheritance burnt out, but then they still had this

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<v Speaker 1>champagne taste, but no champagne money to pay for it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So it continued on and then ended up in debt.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not judging at all my heart and she

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<v Speaker 1>goes out to you, And the other thing I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>is anything we hear from our parents or our partners,

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<v Speaker 1>we get defensive because we don't like hearing from those people.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had met you or someone who's neutral and

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<v Speaker 1>not connected to your parents in any way and said

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<v Speaker 1>something to you, you're more likely to take it on

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<v Speaker 1>board than you are hearing it from a parent or

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<v Speaker 1>a partner. Like Tom will say something to me like, Ohkanna,

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<v Speaker 1>we should really paint that blue, and I'm like, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so's not painting that. And then if pop over, you

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<v Speaker 1>pop over and goes, hey, can you paint that wall blue?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what a cool idea to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We should totally paint this wall, and Tom goes mentally,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same things. We don't want to hear advice

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<v Speaker 1>from our partners sometimes or our parents.

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<v Speaker 2>We kind of a reminder of like the yuckiness that

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<v Speaker 2>I experienced as a kid with money, So I even

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<v Speaker 2>being in that space, I didn't want to like open up.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, of course, and it's also money that's come

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<v Speaker 1>out of a loss and grief, and grief is very

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<v Speaker 1>complicated as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And to add to that, like the one shot sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like this is you could get the house with this,

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<v Speaker 2>so you could, like the pressure say that, Oh, the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure was probably the thing that I can remember feeling

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<v Speaker 2>the most. I still feel a little bit of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've still got some of it left, so like.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll talk about that in a second, because we

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<v Speaker 1>want to work out where you should get started to

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<v Speaker 1>get back on track and make up for lost time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, what you were saying is not uncommon

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<v Speaker 1>at all, and at different levels of severity in different situations.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not alone. But my heart really goes out to

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<v Speaker 1>you because the pressure on someone so young, you have

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<v Speaker 1>no understanding about money and how money is built, how

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<v Speaker 1>money is protected, how money needs to be used in

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<v Speaker 1>a sensible wise intelligent wafers can therefore be sustainable and

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually leverage further off that beautiful financial blessing.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have actually been really quite horrible. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I would almost get that if I was in your situation,

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<v Speaker 1>I almost would have almost like a detest of money

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<v Speaker 1>because it would just be a reminder of the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the resistance I have towards budgeting, I just shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when my friends are talking about money, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>so much anxiety, like they're talking about this holiday and

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<v Speaker 2>I just freeze. Yeah, because I feel like I blew it.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have. I don't know what I could have,

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<v Speaker 2>but it feels a bit like damned if I do,

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<v Speaker 2>damned if I don't. Because there was actually a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that my friend's dad who I opened up to about

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<v Speaker 2>all this, and he was like, right, lock that money away,

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<v Speaker 2>you're buying a property. And I just never did anything

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<v Speaker 2>with the advice. I was scared to lose that little

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<v Speaker 2>back up, but scared to not do anything as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I froze. And that freezing meant that money just

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<v Speaker 2>sat there and I just kept picking away over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had access to it for like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven years now.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, tell me what you did with the money

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll move on then to what like because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to, like, you know, we need to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>the past, Yeah, but we also need to make peace

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<v Speaker 1>of the past so we can make the space for prosperity.

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<v Speaker 1>So where did this money go? Like, what did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you travel?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I lived in Mexico for two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I did volunteering, so I actually had to pay to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was honestly so fulfilling.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know, tell me a little bit about that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had like a really like high school was

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<v Speaker 2>really tough. There was stuff going on in my family.

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<v Speaker 2>I had an awful breakup and I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of Sydney. I had like a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual awakening and I met some people who were doing

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<v Speaker 2>like volunteer programs. This program that runs around the world

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<v Speaker 2>and you can basically go pay to live at a

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<v Speaker 2>location anyone that you choose. They have bases in basically

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<v Speaker 2>all countries and just to like serve the local area.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went to Tijuana, Mexico, where we were feeding

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<v Speaker 2>the homeless. We were looking after the girls that worked

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<v Speaker 2>in the red light district as young as like five

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<v Speaker 2>years old. Seeing like young girls get sold. It was

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<v Speaker 2>quite dangerous at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>We were doing little day courses daycare for the kids

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<v Speaker 2>of the people who worked in the red light districts.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pimps would like come and drop their kids

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<v Speaker 2>off to our daycare. You're just like talking to tijuan

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<v Speaker 2>as big ast like drug cartel guys, and they're coming

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<v Speaker 2>and giving like little Huan to me for the day

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<v Speaker 2>and we're like playing skipping and doing Bible stories and

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<v Speaker 2>building homes for families that didn't have them. So like

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<v Speaker 2>it was obviously you think I'm a saint. I did that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a beautiful decision. I'm really glad I meant decision.

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<v Speaker 2>I was running away from pain, from my family and

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<v Speaker 2>from a breakup. So I came back from Mexico after

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<v Speaker 2>that just under two years and pain wasn't gone. So

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<v Speaker 2>I also just like moved to Byron for two years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went and just lived with my friends in Byron.

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<v Speaker 2>It was stunning, beautiful. And then I got back from Byron.

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<v Speaker 2>Still didn't want to be confined to Sydney, so I

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<v Speaker 2>went and lived in Darwin and I did a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of volunteer work up there as well. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>a makeup artist at the time, so I was working

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<v Speaker 2>on like the ABC News and that was really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And then like I lived in Brisbane for a bit

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<v Speaker 2>because I just like I just didn't care to come

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<v Speaker 2>back to Sydney and get into a nine to five.

0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.359
<v Speaker 2>I knew that that like sort of boring future was

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<v Speaker 2>awaiting me, and I was just like, no, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna wriggle about. Then I went to Brisbane. When COVID happened,

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<v Speaker 2>I took off to Byron again as most of us did,

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<v Speaker 2>so I fit in a trip to Scandinavia. I spent money,

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<v Speaker 2>went to America on that money, went to Scandinavia on

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<v Speaker 2>that money, and haven't done any overseas travel since before COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot in there, but they're the main.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of Okay, So I don't think you wasted the

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<v Speaker 1>money at all. I think you invested the money in yourself. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think from you, I like because so many

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<v Speaker 2>friends have said that to me, but like coming from you,

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<v Speaker 2>if you really think that ninety grand is not wasted

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<v Speaker 2>on me, just being like I want to live in

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<v Speaker 2>Darwin now, I maybe I can let this go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually really inspired by your free spirit and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get up and go. And even a teeny tiny bit

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<v Speaker 1>jealous because I one of my biggest regrets is actually

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<v Speaker 1>not going and living overseas after I finished Wow University

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got a life ahead of me. I can

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<v Speaker 1>know that that maybe you can do it later on

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<v Speaker 1>in life, and I you know, just like various different

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<v Speaker 1>successes coming later in life. So yeah, but no, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you wasted it in I think you've actually

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<v Speaker 1>invested their money in yourself and in finding and going

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<v Speaker 1>on a self discovery journey, which is so valuable. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we get older, we've got bigger responsibilities, children, mortgages, expenses,

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.879
<v Speaker 1>the lifestyle creep. To be able to do those things

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<v Speaker 1>is not actually possible. So you've done it the smart way.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done all those things now and the very strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to say, all that travel for so

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<v Speaker 1>many years of ninety thousand dollars, I don'd you say,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably quite really good money Like some people would

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<v Speaker 1>have blown that within a year. You made that money

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<v Speaker 1>really last and take you to so many different destinations

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<v Speaker 1>and immerse yourself into so many important cultures and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>firsthand the reality of how our world operates and how

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous it is and how lucky we are, and what

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we need to be aware of and

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for, and how we can use that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even just hearing I mean, I don't know anything about.

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<v Speaker 2>The ten year story, like what was your life even your.

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<v Speaker 1>Experience of going to Mexico and helping and learning about

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<v Speaker 1>these the red light districts and children, like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel sick to my stomach. You can

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<v Speaker 1>actually use that to your financial advantage and use that

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<v Speaker 1>an element of motivation to help you want to get back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh my gosh. My dream would be to, like

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<v Speaker 2>whether single or with a family, like would be to

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<v Speaker 2>for a portion of the year, be at a month.

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<v Speaker 2>You do need to be there a little longer than

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<v Speaker 2>a month though for it to not feel like you're

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<v Speaker 2>a volunteer tourist. But yeah, like I'd love to go

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<v Speaker 2>for like a three month stint. Like that's a dream

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<v Speaker 2>every year to invest And so I actually got that

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<v Speaker 2>idea from a family that I met over in Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>that did that, and it really inspired me. And the

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<v Speaker 2>kids grew up from you know, being a baby to

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<v Speaker 2>like learning how to speak Spanish and all they knew

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<v Speaker 2>was giving and serving the Mexican people.

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<v Speaker 1>How much would you need to do that to do

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<v Speaker 1>that each year? If you said, Okay, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend three months a year living in Mexico helping these families.

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<v Speaker 2>Even much thought of it makes me so like my

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<v Speaker 2>heart gets butterflies. I don't even know how much my

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<v Speaker 2>groceries cost.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if I put thirty thousand dollars in your bank

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<v Speaker 1>account before you jumped on the plane or before you

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.159
<v Speaker 1>booked an air fair, would that be enough for you

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<v Speaker 1>to take three months off away from your life to

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<v Speaker 1>survive and do that every single year?

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty grand? I assume so like I know that you

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<v Speaker 2>pay a fee to work and live there, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would probably buy my own food and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So thirty thousand for three months sounds like more than

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<v Speaker 2>I'd need.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what if I told you, if you wanted to,

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you could get started today in building up a passive

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 1>income stream of thirty thousand dollars a year will take

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a while. It's going to be not saving. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>investing and building up an investment portfolio that pays you

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand dollars once a year, wow, as a lump sum,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe split up over two payments in one year,

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<v Speaker 1>say fifteen thousand dollars each, and that was your money

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<v Speaker 1>for Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I'm smiling.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, this is something you can do. I know

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<v Speaker 1>from our previous conversations you're someone who's very interested in investing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've said you would love to have an investment portfolio.

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.399
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you don't know where to start. So this

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:06.880
<v Speaker 1>is where you need to get started.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all is you've got to spend some time

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>for giving yourself and hopefully even know a conversation.

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Alone, and it does already feel lighter.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even think you need to figive yourself

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<v Speaker 1>for anything. You know, you've invested in yourself, and I

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.640
<v Speaker 1>think what you've done is admirable and liberating and connected

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.280
<v Speaker 1>to your spirit and what it needs, the which is

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>so important. You're not following a herd mentality. So first

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:32.160
<v Speaker 1>of all, we've got to do some work on that mindset.

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>And I want you to write down all the things

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.879
<v Speaker 1>that you are grateful for from doing that four or

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 1>five years of spending that money. Write them down and

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 1>write them down in a journal so you can reread

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 1>them whenever you need to. Next is to start looking

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 1>at some goals and write down those goals. So write

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<v Speaker 1>down the goal of a passive income of thirty thousand

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>dollars a year. I want you'd also write down the

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>goal of doing a budget. Yeah, and I will sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with you and I'll show you how to do

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<v Speaker 1>a budget and how to build a cash flow system

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>that matches your budget so that you don't get into

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<v Speaker 1>credit card debt along the way, you don't run out

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>of money before you're end of the pace cycle. And

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you can, best of all, start building up some savings

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and start a regular investment plan. So mindset goals and

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>writing those goals down and having you know, in that

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>list of goals, have some goals for an amount of

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>emergency money, which I'll come to in a second. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to do a budget. Yeah. Now, from

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.640
<v Speaker 1>your budget, what I want you to do is work

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<v Speaker 1>out how much you can afford to save on a

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<v Speaker 1>regular basis. Okay, Okay, with that savings first, and I'm

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>going to assume that you don't have any credit card

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>dead here, but you know, I want you just then

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>use that savings after you've done your budget and proactively

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>put it into a savings account, an online savings account,

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>ideally with high interest snow fees. Okay, you may already

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>have one, but it must be away from your every

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>day Okay, your every day is spending account. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to remove temptation.

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 2>There's one account.

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you have one account. I kind of like that.

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>It's very simple, but you do need a second account.

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.360
<v Speaker 1>An online savings account can be great because it gives

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>you that flexibility. There's no fees and you get a

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>bonus interest. Often if you're putting a certain amount every month,

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>now you would nickname that account my emergency money. It

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>is really important that you always have emergency money. It

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter how ritual, how cool you are.

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 2>You need emergency and I don't have a full time.

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<v Speaker 1>Jobs exactly, so you don't have protection that yet, you

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>don't have you sickly or really ring like that. So

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.640
<v Speaker 1>it's really important to you. You need to work out

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>while this is the right amount of emergency money. So

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 1>there's no magical formula and for you, we need to

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>sit down and look at your situation and go, okay, well,

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>what are your expenses like, what is your situation and lifeline?

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>What safety nets have you already got in place, what

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 1>insurance policies you have, and then we'll sit out and

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>work out how much you need. But realistically it's going

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to be a decent five figure amount of emergency money

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that you need. Okay, I don't want to throw numbers

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>out there, but it's going to be something north of

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>fifteen thousand, okay, okay, Yeah, So we need to start

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>building that up as quickly as possible. Then in the meantime,

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>whilst we're saving that, we need to go down an

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>educational path learning about money and learning about investing, and

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 1>we're going to start building up a passive income stream.

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<v Speaker 1>So whilst you're saving up, let's call it fifteen thousand

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>dollars emergency money for simplicity, But that's not the number.

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I want you to learn about investing and I want

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you to so that you're saving it at the same time.

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>But you're not wasting time. You're using a time efficiently. Yeah,

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>So you're saving your heart out. You're regularly putting money

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>into that savings account, and I should point out I

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.360
<v Speaker 1>recommend you put that money in. So say, for example,

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you know you can save one thousand dollars a month

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>after doing a budget or whatever it may be, the

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.640
<v Speaker 1>moment you get paid, and I know you do get

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>paid in various different ways, try and put some of

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that money into that savings account. So you get it

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>out of your account away into that emergency account, so

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>it's taken out before you get the opportunity to spend it.

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you really.

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Prioritize, prioritize first priority.

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 2>And it is like I connect with that because I'm like,

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 2>if something happened.

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>It's the money that lets you sleep well at night.

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.160
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that, as I said, it's not to be invested.

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Investing is really for the long term. When I say

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>long term, I'm talking ten, fifteen to twenty thirty, forty

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>fifty years. Okay, So you always need to think, Okay,

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this money that I'm going to go and invest, I

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>never want it back. I'm putting it away forever because

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>it's going to pay me back. It's going to pay

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>me back a little bit each year without the capitol

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>eroding away.

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>So once you've hit that fifteen thousand dollars, I want

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you then to replace that savings plan, whether it be

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars a month, five hundred dollars a month.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Whatever it may be, I'm already saving.

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I want you to then go and open up another account,

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 1>another online savings account. Now, this is your saving to

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 1>invest account. It's your financial goal, okay, and I want

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you to start putting as much money as you can

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.479
<v Speaker 1>afford to do into that account, and in the meantime

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>continue on educating yourself. Now, there are lots of different

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>investments out there, and there are lots of different investment

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>products out there, and I obviously this is a general conversation.

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not giving you personal advice at all, but I

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>know from our conversations you are interested, and you've said

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you want a share portfolio. So if that's something that

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 1>really excites you, and you know that shares a highly

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>volatile their long term investments, and you like the idea

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 1>that it's not a property, you don't need to wait

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a save up for eight ninety.

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Thing feels too like far and it feels too locked down.

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to decide, but I know, yeah.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>We'll do a risk profile together and also work out

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>where you know what the mix is, because it's not

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>one or the other. Right inact, you could have property

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and you can have shares. Yeah, And you can have shares,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>and you can have some cash, and you can have

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>some fixed interest, and you can have some international shares.

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>To say that I have all those like just even

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the thought of like actually being able to comprehend what

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 2>all that that is, like that feels so empowering.

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>But you can have this. You can literally have this

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>by the end of the day. If you wanted a share,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>poor follow. If you can buy a pair of shoes online,

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you can buy really shares online. Absolutely, but we need

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that before you come buy shares online

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>that you know that you are them. Okay, and we

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>do it the right way. Now, if I just hone

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>in on shares just for I guess educational purposes right now,

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>not giving you personal advices investment at all. But once

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you've got a certain amount saved up and you've done

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a Risze profile, and you go, yes, you know what,

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>this is what I want. I like the idea of

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>shares because I can buy shares straight away. I've only

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>got a pay brokerage and yes, you can use it.

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>How do I know where to look? Because I know,

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 2>like my brother he works for Google, so he's like,

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>here's Apple, He's Google, he has like, yeah, tech scary

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>to me. Crypto is scary to me. Although my friend

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 2>became a millionaire from crypto, I'm like, oh, how did

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>you do that?

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.959
<v Speaker 2>And you're like, oh, it's volatile, and I'm like, oh, okay,

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>well you.

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Know, well, look, crypto is an episode in itself because

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>it is a very complicated problem. And yeah, it's not

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>for everyone personally, it's not my jam. That doesn't mean

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it or recommend it. It's just for me.

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm very much a passive income investor, and I buy

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>for the long run and I reinvest everything while I

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>can because for me, my ultimate goal, which I've shared

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>with everyone on this podcast channel, is to build a

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>passive income of over two hundred thousand dollars a year. Well, yeah,

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>so you could live off that, Yes, my family could

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>live off that. So that represents for me security, independence, freedom, choice,

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>even a little bit of luxury. And all I focus

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>on is building that number. I don't care about what

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>my portfolio is worth. And a crypto doesn't pay a

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>passive income because it's purely growth.

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>You have to keep your money there.

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Well it's you know, you only make your money when

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you sell now worth two dollars, But until I sell,

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't really have that money and it's not paying

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>meaning income.

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>The dividends that you're talking about. So okay, So if

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>you put in five grand and say it paid you

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>five hundred, you have that money. But with crypto, it's

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 2>locked away until you take all.

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Your investments out, and then you've got to pay capital

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>gains tax on selling it, and so you've got to

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>make sure it's liquid. There's a lot to unpack. Oh,

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>there's too much to cover today. But you know, looking

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>at shares that you can buy shares within seconds, so

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you can be a shareholder by the end of the

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>day if you wanted, and there's no stamp duty like

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>careers with a property. Okay, you can buy shares with

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>as little as five hundred dollars, sometimes even five dollars.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>If you look at the micro investing apps, which I'm

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>not personally a fan of.

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I downloaded rays.

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>So many people say that to me. They've got like

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>they've downloaded, like may feel so easy, like nothing done.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>No one uses it.

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Sits there and it's a little bit of money, but

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>then nothing's ever invested. Yeah, okay, you can buy shares

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with as little as five hundred dollars, and I personally

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>prefer to invest in pulses over one thousand dollars, which yeah,

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars because you pay your brokerage. It's a

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>decent amount eating away fee that you paid to actually invest. Now,

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to anyone that says to me, I want to start investing,

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where to start, what to buy, And

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I say, well, okay, what are you thinking? And they're like,

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I just want I just want lots of shares. I

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>like the idea of earning dividends. I like the idea

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of having those dividends have some tax credits. I don't

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>want to spend hours and hours all day picking and

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>choosing which stock and what industry, and how to buy

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and how much. There's two very simple answers. You then

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>look at listed investment companies and examples.

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 2>You know people who to do it for you, who

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>know all that.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so a listed investment company is essentially like walking

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>into a supermarket and seeing a shopping basket with all

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>of your groceries already ready to go. Okay, so you can,

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.239
<v Speaker 1>if you want, walk through the supermarket and go up

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and down all the aisles with your list you can find,

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to take you an hour to go

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>through the supermarket and do all that, Or if you want,

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you can turn up the supermarket and grab one of

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the pre packed shopping trolleys and grab that and go.

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Now you do pay money for that.

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>There's an ongoing fee within the product and it's very

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>cost effective. And she interviewed one of the CEOs, Angus Kloski,

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>from Whitefield, which is one of Australia's oldest investment companies,

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 1>has been going for one hundred years. And you know

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>their fee I think is around about zero point three

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to seven.

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>So it's not not on what you make well what

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>you invest, it's.

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Of what you invest. Yeah, So if I invested one

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars in Whitefield, and I cannot stress this

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>is not investment advice at all, product advice. But I'm

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>using an example. If you were assuming that their fees

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>zero point three seven for me to have Whitefield invest

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>my money, make all those investment decisions and also manage

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the tax side as well, because they're going to send

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>me the statements. I'm paying them three hundred and seventy

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>dollars a year.

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 2>That's nothing, That's what I pay my accountant.

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>There you go and they're doing everything for you, and

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>your portfolio is immediately diversified and you can jump on

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the white Field website. And there are other listed investment

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>companies out there as well. Whitefel's just one of them.

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>But they will share what's inside the portfolio, and you

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>will see they don't share the whole entire portfolio because

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that's obviously their intellectual property, but they'll share the top

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.959
<v Speaker 1>twenty percent holdings and you can actually see, okay, there

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>are eighty different companies in this portfolio. So I'm going

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to be owning a little bit of Woolworths. I'm going

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>to own a bit of Westpac Bank. I'm going to

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>own a bit of Commalk Bank. I'm also going to

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>own a bit of Telstra. I'm going and you can

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>see it's actually your money is immediately diversified, and if

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you want, you can just use those listed investment companies

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>yourself and that don't ever worry about making an investment

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>decision or how and when to buy. Just continuously buy

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>listed investment companies.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they make the decision.

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's my money, and you know, you do need

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to do your research and you do need to understand

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing before you're doing it. And I'm sure

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously the costs involved because they do charge your fee,

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's built into the investment and it comes out

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 1>of the dividends having put your hand in your pocket

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like you are with an investment property. But it is

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a great way of immediately diversifying your money. And also,

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I had one hundred thousand dollars and

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I went and picked my individual stocks, that's going to

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>take me hours and hours and hours to decide. This

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to me seems a no brain. That is a no

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>brainer delegation of a very complicated decision.

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.479
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not qualified to make that, as we can

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 2>see exactly.

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And my interview with Peter Thornhill, like he is a

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>self made millionaire, multimillionaire, wow, start properly investing in his

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>early fifties and I have seen him myself.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for me so much about it. Thank you, see,

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 2>but can I ask you a question? Wait you finish

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 2>about well?

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, Peter Thornhill's portfolio is worth over

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars. All he's done is save and as

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>soon as he's got the money saved, done, ness than

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>God invested in listed investment companies. He actually hasn't reinvested

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>his dividends. He's taken them as money and then decided

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 1>what to do with it, whether we're paying down debt

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>or but it's then you know, borrowed money as well

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>along the way against his home, Like he's done different things. Essentially,

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 1>all he's done, though from a surface level, is just

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>got money to invest, don't spend it, Just go and

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>buy more shares for shares instead of shopping for stuff.

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>And that passive income has grown and built over time.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 1>So what you could potentially do, and I'm talking about

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 1>listed investment companies, you can also do the same with

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>another version which has exchanged traded funds, and look, exchange

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>traded funds also equally valuable. They're very similar. They just

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>have different tax structures because one's a trust structure and

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>one's a company structure. But you know, an ETA actually

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>allows you to diversify, probably a little bit differently and

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>in a more strategic way, because you can buy ETFs

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that folks in the Asian market or the US market,

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>or Europe or Australian high yield or.

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you like to get that detailed about it in

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 2>your investments or are you like.

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>So, I would say sixty percent of my funds are

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>in listed investment companies. I prefer the tax structure of

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a listed over an ETF. However, I use ETFs to

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>access international investments.

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Because you think something's good.

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's but it's all very boring and yeah

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>we're talking like Vanguard ETF. Yeah, even all cost effective.

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>But the tax structure is I think very valuable. And

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 1>the franking credits of the Australian share market, the tax

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>credits are really valuable, so particularly when you look at

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the passive income because they can really boost your income

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and typically you know you've got these Australian shares are

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>they grow in value and then they also provide an income.

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>So if you are investing in companies, which is typically

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>industrial shares, which are companies that produce goods and services,

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>so people you deal with every day. You know, the

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>people that make this podcasting equipment, the shops that sell

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the bed linen and the towels that we use every day.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Those businesses they paid an income which is the dividend

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to you. And obviously some of that money is taken

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>from the all taken from the profits. Some of the

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>profits is used to put back into the business, to

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>take on new staff, to expand to keep ongoing marketing

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 1>and so forth, whereas some of that money is paid

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>as a profit to you through a dividend. So the thing,

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the power of shares over the long run, understanding all

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the risks that come with it, is that it pays

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.919
<v Speaker 1>you this money every single year, and it's not coming

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>out of the capital. So say, for example, I invest

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.359
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand dollars tomorrow, assuming a five percent dividend,

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll get five thousand dollars income from that immediately. Not immediately,

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>but it's paid two times throughout the year. Wow, okay,

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and it comes with tax credits which I won't go

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>into today. But that one hundred thousand dollars is still there, obviously,

0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>assuming that hasn't had a market correction or pullback. You know,

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>in fact, it may have actually grown in value. Now

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>that one hundred thousand is worth one hundred and three

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. But then next year I get my same

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>five percent dividend yield or maybe even a little bit more.

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Also know, it's even a little bit less because they

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>can reasonably fluctuate. But this is the power of a

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>listed investment company because it's diversified, and I might get

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>say now five thousand, four hundred dollars, so my passive

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 1>income is growing. So what you could do is start

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>buying listed investment companies or ETFs subject within the boundaries

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of your risk profile and getting advice, but reinvest all

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>those dividends, and I.

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't obtain a passive income right like when you start

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>keep putting it back. Put it back in, because the

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 2>passive income grows, yes.

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>And you add to the compounding effect. So you put

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>that money back into the portfolio. You don't spend it.

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>You put it in so that over the next ten

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>years you can actually grow that income and it gives

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you that thirty thousand dollars a year. Now, obviously, how

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>quickly you want that thirty thousand dollars is going to

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>boil down to you. What you put in you'll get

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>back out. So you know, you could do different things

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 1>to help maximize your opportunities to grow that inefficient and

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>effective way. And you know, the thousand dollars project is

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>exactly an example.

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I did read a few pages and I really excited me.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I never did anything about it, but I liked it.

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>But all this is the block where I think a

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't know where to get started, so

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you just open up an online share trading account, which

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I can help you with. And once you've got some

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>money that you're comfortable investing and investing, say goodbye to

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>this money, goodbye, goodbye. This is for my future. I

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>don't need this money back. I don't want this money back.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.919
<v Speaker 1>I want this money to give me an income back,

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a long term income. But then that continue what it's

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:47.280
<v Speaker 1>very simple like rinse and repeat. Save up some money

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>that you're comfortable putting into this by and buy more

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>shares and then those dividends continue to grow over time.

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 1>But also with you buying more shares, because you're buying

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:56.959
<v Speaker 1>more income streams they're getting, it's getting bigger and bigger

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:57.439
<v Speaker 1>over time.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>So it kind of has two ways of growth and itself,

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.280
<v Speaker 2>yes exactly.

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Hundred percent, you're adding to the income. You're making the

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>income grow because you're buying more shares all the time

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>because you've got a budget. And it's also growing because

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you are reinvesting. You're not spending that income, you're reinvesting.

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>In fact, with some of the listed investment companies, you

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>can set up an automatic dividend reinvestment plan well you

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>don't even touch it doesn't it just doesn't even make

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>it to your bank account. They just use it automatically.

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.240
<v Speaker 1>And the benefit of that is you're dollar cost averaging

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 1>through a moving market. That reduces risk, but also you're

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>not paying brokerage along the way. And some listed investment

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>companies and stocks or companies offer a discount if you're

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>in a reinvestment plan where you'll get a discount to

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>what the share. So say a share is trading at

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>nine dollars, if you're invested, you're enrolled in a divid

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and reinvestment plan, you get to buy that stock backing

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 1>at a discount of say eight dollars ninety So you're

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit of a discount.

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 2>You're buying the same thing, but the incentive to say more, yeah.

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>And to keep going. So you've got to be careful

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>with diversification if you're not doing this with listed investment companies,

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>because you may be purchasing more of one stock in

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>comparison to others that aren't necessarily enrolling. Here, you did

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>it in reinvestment pattern, which is again why listened miss.

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Why you would go the more structured option.

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 1>But you just keep doing that and don't never worry

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>about what the share FOLO is worth. If you're using

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>a really well diversified portfolio by tools such as these,

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>focus on the income.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 2>They're those numbers I can barely deal with like that

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>my own.

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, and that's perfect. So all you do

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>is each year, look out, Okay, this year, my portfolio

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 1>paid me a thousand dollars. My goal this year is

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to get that to two thousand dollars or three thousand dollars,

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that passive income. And there are lots of things you

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>can do along the way, and you know, this is

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>again probably something to unpack another time, but things like

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>including you know, gearing strategies such as a margin loan

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>or a regular gearing plan where you can now borrow money,

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>which comes with lots of risks, but risks that can

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>be proactively managed in a smart, intelligent way again to

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>help amplify those opportunit unities. Right keeping in mind obviously

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 1>can amplify risks as well, but it's most of which

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>are manageable. But these are things that can help speed

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.320
<v Speaker 1>up the process for you. And you know, the thousand

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>dollars project is worth two hundred and eighty five thousand

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>dollars today. Do you mean that You've to know I've

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>built I haven't earned it, I've built it. Oh, so

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>this is your share portfolio, Like, that's how much.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Money is in.

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what it's worth today. And I don't really care

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>about what it's worth. What I care about is the

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>passive income. And that pays me a passive income of

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 1>over sixteen thousand dollars a year without getting out of bed.

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>My portfolio makes me sixteen thousand dollars year. Now, I've

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>never taken a single dollar out of my savings or

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>my space salary.

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 2>You have hustled that might I've hustled it.

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've manifested it.

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know you're open fanky.

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>But literally, and there is a small margin loan attached

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to it, which is slowly paying off. But it's like

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>forty two thousand dollars coming down all the time, So

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>you know it's I guess, so it's not one hundred

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.879
<v Speaker 1>cent cash flow positive, but that passive income is there.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I started that project eight years ago

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>for the.

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Last four eight years ago, and you have that.

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I've built that over eight years. But this is the

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.760
<v Speaker 1>funny thing. I've actually been really lazy over the last

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>four years because I've had two kids. Yeah, We've moved

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>house three times in the last four years, and I've

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>just had a few things going on, so I haven't

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>been able to commit as much as I was doing previously.

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>So in fact, it could be worth much more than that.

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>But this is the beauty of the fountain to the project.

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>It just works with you in what's going on or

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>not in your life. You can slow down or you

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.839
<v Speaker 1>can go aggressively, and this is what you can do for.

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>You you can get started at. It kind of leads

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:36.760
<v Speaker 2>into my last.

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Question if I have Yeah, of course a second because.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm looking at what I value. Like you know,

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm a little bit of a health nut, so like no,

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I spend more on like section that people my age don't.

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't chop completely organic, but I like pretoitize it

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 2>pretty well. Yeah, my mum would be mortified. Got a

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 2>voice in my mind, how do you reckon style? I

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 2>need to hustle hard. Clearly, I don't have an emergency

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 2>back up, et cetera.

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>What we spoke about, Okay, we don't have You don't

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>have an emergency backup yet? Yes, you will I will

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>start working on it.

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 2>So how do I approach making justifications for the areas

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 2>that I do want to live in? You know, even

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 2>like applying some of the principles you teach about, like Okay,

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 2>I want to capture wardrobe because like that just does

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 2>work better that things like that where it's like more

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 2>of the everyday side because I'm loving like the big plan.

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Because also at thirty, like you know what you like. Yeah,

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 2>so that's the hardest thing about being older, Like you're

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more stiffened in like this is my

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 2>routine and it's life giving for me. And so I

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 2>get We're okay with that because I know I could

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.320
<v Speaker 2>spend I don't know, maybe like three hundred dollars. I

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know, like I actually don't know how much, and

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm a bit scared of thinking about it.

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well we'll do it together.

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 2>So what happens, Okay, Yeah, budget that is happening is

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the most important.

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 1>But okay, So to answer your question is you don't

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 1>need to justify anything. You need to be true and

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>authentic and honest to yourself.

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like being true and authentic and honest

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 2>got me chewing through ninety grand Do you know what

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Nobody. I don't think it did, because you know you

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 1>talked about the real, real and captural wardrobe Coldes. That

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't authentic and genuine to you. You're fatally up when

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you spoke to me about the water field and you

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>still have that today, but you don't, you don't have

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 1>your hatual wardrobe. So your value system is health, and

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>then the investment of yourself that must stay help is wealth. Yeah,

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 1>so that has got to stay. But where it can

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>get a bit wobbly and be dangerous to your financial

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>wellbeing is when you've got too much going on. You

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>need to find a safe balance where you go, Okay.

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>For me, I want to spend I value spending on supplements,

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>for example. But because I value on spending on supplements,

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 1>it means I just I can't overindulge in a new

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>pair of shoes every four months or one month or

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. It means you can have it all,

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>but not necessarily at the same time. So you have

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to have the boundaries in place where you go, okay.

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what makes my heart seeing, that's what makes feels

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.280
<v Speaker 1>my cup. So anything out there actually is not something

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that I value. So why would I want to be

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 1>disrespectful to how hard I'm working the journey and path

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that I'm on now, and how I'm trying to build

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>my life going forward by blowing money on things that

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't serve me and so my heart in

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the right type of way. So it is really an awareness,

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>so an element of mindfulness where you go, Okay, you

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>catch yourself buying something and you have to say, hang on,

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>would I prefer this one hundred dollars in my emergency

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>fund account? Or would I prefer this one hundred dollars

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to be able to buy another parcel of shares and

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>what my passive income grow? Or would I like to

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 1>put this one hundred dollars on my feet and buy

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that pair of shoes? Now, just that question itself, it

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>gives you that perspective just to hang on, is this

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>a good idea? When I've asked myself that actually I'd

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 1>feel much better knowing that that money is going to

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>buy some more shares. Or there are times where I'm like, no,

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>I really like this. This is a real goodbye and

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm going to wear this and use this

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate it and I love it, so I'm

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:08.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna buy it. But it's just about balance and knowing

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 1>what makes you feel good and understand that buying shares

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>makes you feel really good.

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to experience that little.

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll find the dopamine hit for buying shares.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Is just yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I don't have to

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>try it.

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Because especially when you get your first dividend check or dividend,

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be wild. And you see that you've got,

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, three hundred and fifty units in listed company

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>x y Z, and now because they've just announced the dividends,

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you've now got three hundred and sixty five feelers like

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.280
<v Speaker 1>that is that's shopping for shares.

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 2>So basically, you're saying, create awareness by asking yourself. Because

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm working on building back trust with myself, I wonder

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 2>if I can trust myself on the leaks. But I

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 2>also I don't know if I can really outsource those

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 2>decisions because it's only been through trial and error that

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I've really come to realize, Oh, my health is the

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 2>number one, and I do get joy it. You're right,

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I get so much joy out of it, even sometimes

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 2>if I'm asking myself the question, well, Brady, would you

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 2>rather a pair of shoes or in shares? I don't

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 2>know that I can really delay the gratification that I

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 2>am scared that.

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's because you've never experienced shares yet. You've never

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 1>experienced saving emergency money yet. You don't have that point

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 1>of comparison yet because you haven't experienced it. Okay, once

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>you have your emergency money saved up, you'll be so

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>protective of it because you will know how it has

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>been to build that money, and how long it's taken,

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and what you've had to learn a long way, and

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 1>you will learn so much about yourself as you build

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:37.759
<v Speaker 1>that money up.

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 2>So doing will change.

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>And then when you buy your shares, you will have

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.919
<v Speaker 1>the biggest smile on your face. You will feel so proud.

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 2>And you and then I give it way all the

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 2>way to orphans.

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is one thing even better. This is

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the power of passive income, particularly from you know, two

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>dimensional assets like shares. Imagine this income, this thirty thousand

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 1>dollars a year. Passive income compounds and grows over time.

0:48:57.560 --> 0:48:59.879
<v Speaker 1>It's you know, thirty thousand dollars a year, thirty one

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and a half, and then thirty three and a half,

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and then thirty five and a half and thirty nine

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and forty three, and it gets bigger and we just

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.279
<v Speaker 1>watch it. Imagine when you eventually, one day, as we

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 1>all will pass away, you hand that share portfolio over

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to a charity and that money goes one hundred percent

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>to helping families in Tijuana rebuild their lives. This is

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 1>what you can do. There is nothing stopping you. You

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>just need to get started. So good. You write down

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and make peace with yourself. And I don't think it's

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>tearing it. I know I can see, but you write down,

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.720
<v Speaker 1>you make peace with your past. It is not serving

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you to keep your head looking backwards. You need to

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>look forwards. And you replace those thoughts of the past

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:42.919
<v Speaker 1>with what you were doing now, what you were doing

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 1>in the future. And when you catch yourself feeling guilty

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>about maybe thinking which I don't actually did really money tool,

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:53.280
<v Speaker 1>you go, okay, well our shair portfolio, replace those thoughts

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 1>with what you were doing to fix it. The solutions.

0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>So doing what actually well doing is how we you

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>know trump a compety as well. You know we were

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 1>anxious sometimes doing something helps U serve with anxiety, but

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 1>not that I'm an expert in that area at all.

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:12.319
<v Speaker 1>But you know, think about Okay, yes I did that,

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 1>but I am now going forward. I'm buying shares, I'm

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>building shares. I'm building a passive income that eventually one

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>day will go to charity. I am building up emergency money.

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 1>When the moment you've got that emergency money sorted, and

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the moment you have you've bought your first pass of shares,

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 1>yeah you now have. You now know what it feels

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 1>like to have that money, have that peace of mind,

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 1>had that comfort. You will know how easy it is

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 1>and how rewarding and empowering it is to say your

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:39.399
<v Speaker 1>own shares and have a share port follow and you're

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>focusing your energy on building that share portfolio, and you

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 1>earn a passive income, a growing passive income. That's when

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you have that comparison to go, Do I really want

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 1>to buy that new T shirt or that top? Actually no,

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I want more shares income. Okay, but you're trying to

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>give yourself a point of comparison without experiencing yet. Okay,

0:50:58.200 --> 0:50:58.879
<v Speaker 1>let's get there.

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>You need to experience.

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, the saving your emergency money is a great start, okay,

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 1>so get started there.

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 2>We will, we will, we need to alright.

0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 1>This wraps up today's episode of Start Here. Let me

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 1>know what you think about this series where.

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 2>You like I Am Now