WEBVTT - Sharri | 10 December 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:05.519 Why on Sky News. This is Sharry. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:09.280 Good Evening. Welcome to the show. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.480 Just three programs left before our Christmas break, so don't 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:14.200 miss a moment. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:15.680 And it's a big show tonight. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:19.440 I have an exclusive story Penny Wong accused of villifying 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.400 Israel and contributing to the climate of fear and anti 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:28.319 Semitism in Australia. James Patterson and Dave Sharma warn that 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.720 the Foreign Minister should tone down her language before this 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:37.040 situation gets even worse. Dave Sharma even accusing the Foreign 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.320 Minister of dog whistling. And he'll be on my show tonight. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.920 That exclusive story coming up in a moment. Plus Just 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.320 Enterprise will be on the show live to speak about 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.080 Peter Dutton's vow not to stand in front of the 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:53.880 indigenous flag at press conferences. And why are some Americans 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:58.600 celebrating the man charged with the murder of the United 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:00.520 Healthcare See what. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.400 Is wrong with this World? Also on the. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.280 Show tonight, Brdwin, Bishop, Dave Sharma, Warren Hogan and when 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:11.240 we can expect rate cuts? Plus Israeli Deputy Foreign Affairs 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.320 Minister Sharon Haskell, She'll be on live and she's going 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.839 to respond to Penny Wong's comparison between. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.120 Israel and China and Russia. That's all coming. 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:25.880 Up, but first to our exclusive story. Senior coalition figures 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:30.520 are tonight accusing Penny Wong of dog whistling and creating 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.679 a climate of fear for Jewish Australians with her provocative 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.800 language against Israel. Both Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:44.839 and Liberal Senator Dave Sharma are urging Penniwong to tone 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.280 down her rhetoric and to stop fanning the flames of 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:52.440 anti Semitism. It's their strongest comments yet. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.600 I'm going to show you them exclusively in just a moment. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.920 But it comes after Pennywog compare the liberal democracy of 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.720 Israel with evil dictatorships Russia and China. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:10.440 We expect Russia to by international law and end it's 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.320 illegal and full scale war on Ukraine. We expect China 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.440 to buy by international legal decisions in the South China 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.400 see we expect Israel to bye by international law. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.320 That is a new low, even for Penny Wog. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.640 In a disgraceful speech, she also went from pretending to 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.760 care about anti Semitism to very quickly returning to her 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:35.760 favorite topic. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.720 Of criticizing Israel well. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.119 In response to Pennywong's speech, James Patterson told. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.080 Me today that it's clear. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.760 The Albanezy government has learned nothing from the terrorist attack 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.040 at a dash synagogue last week. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.600 He said this and I quote for. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:58.080 The Foreign Minister to compare Israel, a friendly, liberal democracy 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.520 to two authoritarians dates is an outrageous slur. 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:03.840 He said, it. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:09.120 Continues Labour's campaign of vilification against the Jewish state and 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.000 contributes to the climate of fear Jewish Australians are feeling 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:17.200 right now. He said the Foreign Minister should tone down 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:21.720 her attacks on Israel before it gets even worse. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:23.320 Now. 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.600 Dave Shama, who was Australia's former ambassador to Israel, he 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:31.160 also urged Pennywong to calm down her language, and he 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.760 even accused her of dog whistling. He's on the show 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.160 live tonight, but this is what he told me. He said, 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:41.360 and I quote, I think the government's actively seeking to 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.800 delegitimize and discredit Israel and the result is it's giving 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.560 license and encouragement to people who want to take matters 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.880 into their own hands and target Jewish Australians. He said, 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.160 it's effectively like a dog whistle, where on the one 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.360 hand they condemn anti Semitism, but on the the other 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.000 hand they fuel the. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.440 Conditions which are giving rise to it. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:10.400 Now, those are extremely strong remarks Dave Sharma, saying that 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:15.480 the Albanezi government and in particular Pennywog, fueling the conditions 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:20.120 that give rise to anti Semitism effectively like a dog whistle, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.760 he says, and they're right. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.080 Penniwong needs to stop demonizing. 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:30.239 Israel because provocative accusations are, in my view, in flaming 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:35.760 tensions and encouraging hatred towards Israel and thus Jews. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:37.680 But it seems she. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.599 Doesn't care about the impact her words are having on 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:46.360 anti Semitism. Albanesi and Pennywog are only emboldening the haters 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:52.200 with their wrong and unjust criticism of Israel. Their moral 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:56.440 confusion sends a green light to the aggressive pro Hamas 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:02.880 mob that's been targeting Jews. A synagogue has been firebombed, 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.400 and Pennywong and the others need to urgently tone down 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.840 their language. They should actively try and calm down tensions. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.880 They could even try demand that our hostages are freed, 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.760 that the UN take action to help the Israeli women 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:24.960 currently sex slaves to terrorists in Gaza. They could also 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:29.560 demand that Harmas lays down arms. I doubt the Foreign 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:34.279 Minister is capable of such moral clarity, and it doesn't 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.159 seem like the Prime Minister is either, because it took 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.440 him four and a half days to visit the Addask 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.760 Synagogue in Melbourne after it was firebombed in the early 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:48.440 hours of Friday morning. Tennis was more important, Whining and 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:53.040 dining with labor lobbyists was more important. But finally today 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.000 the Prime Minister bothered to turn up and visit the 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.800 site of the terror attack. Albinizi was met with and 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.160 he shouldn't have been surprised by this, with a hostile 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:08.640 reaction from the local Orthodox Jewish community. One woman told 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.600 him his words were cheap and late. Another asked why 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.279 he'd played tennis instead of visiting earlier. There were also 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:21.080 questions about whether he was pro Palestinian now when alban 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.719 Easy arrived and I watched this closely, instead of saying 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.880 to the local community like I did when I went 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.480 there yesterday, I'm so sorry for what you've been through. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.560 This is such a tough time, or words to that effect. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:41.280 He said this in a jovial tone. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:46.600 I went to my first bar mitzvah on Saturday. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.440 I went to my first bar mitzvah on Saturday. Really, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.560 do you want congratulations for that? Prime Minister? Muzzles of 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.719 Prime Minister? I mean, this was utterly tone deaf. The 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.599 a Dusk community is shell shocked. I can tell you 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.279 that the president of the synagogue told me he's been 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:09.680 unable to properly function. One worshiper had tears. This is 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:13.040 a grown man, tears rolling down his face when he 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.440 surveyed the damage inside. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.160 Yesterday. I was there with him. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.920 But Alban Eazy turns up and jokes that he's been 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:24.720 to his first bar mitzvah, And in fact I've confirmed 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.360 today he was only at the bar mitzvah in the 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:32.840 synagogue in Perth for literally twenty minutes. He wasn't invited, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.240 as his office keeps insisting. He asked if he could 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:41.000 drop into the synagogue a publicity effort, and likewise, his 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.520 visit to a Dust synagogue today was very quick. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.200 He came and left as soon as he could. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.360 He spent the bare minimum time there, no questions, of course, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.600 no interaction with the Jews who had legitimate questions for 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:57.000 him about why he'd failed to support our community. But 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.800 he was forced when he went inside the synagogue to 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:00.600 on front the. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.880 Brutal reality of what his personal. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.600 Lack of action on anti Semitism has led to a 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:13.400 destroyed place of worship, a Jewish community right around Australia reeling, 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:18.880 and Australians, good hearted Australians of all faiths aghast at 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:23.560 the Prime Minister's lack of moral clarity and his weakness, 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:29.760 and still his own senior ministers can't help but speak 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:35.920 about Islamophobia. This was ed Husick today, refusing to comment 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:40.400 on anti Semitism without mentioning his Lamophobia in this absolutely 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.440 extraordinary exchange with Kieren Gilbert. 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:48.160 Should the government have done more to stop anti Semitism? Well, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.880 I think because every week you're seeing a protest in Melbourne. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.760 Hate symbols have been used at many of the protests. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.600 Is this a slippery slide that we're seeing this thing 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:58.720 just get worse and worse. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.800 I think we should always be on the lookout for 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.640 things that are used to make people cower or fear, 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.040 or prevent them from being able to live their daily lives. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.800 So be it any Semitism or Islamophobia or anything else 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.280 where people are singled out because of a particular attribute, 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:20.640 we shouldn't be going there. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:25.120 The governments are criticized for always linking saying any Semitism 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:29.200 alongside Islamophobia. James Patterson says, that's part of the problem, 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.720 that you should just call out any Semitism for what 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.679 it is, because it's worse now than anything else. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.360 Sorry, So should we turn a blind eye to Islamophobia? 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.080 Is that what the coalition's saying, Because the coalition has 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.120 front benches who have said Islamophobia is not a problem, 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:43.880 which is just ridiculous. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.440 And this went on and Onny try to compare one 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.160 incident some time ago to this terror attack, the fire 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:56.760 bombing of the synagogue. It was truly unbelievable that ed 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:01.120 Husick could continue to downplay the anti Semitary crisis like this. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.000 And by the way, his comments came literally at the 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.560 same time as Albinizi was at the Adoust synagogue that 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.760 was firebombed. But this follows Chris Bowen just yesterday, also 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.679 speaking about Islamophobia. 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.360 He said that they shouldn't be that Islamophobia shouldn't be 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.040 mentioned in the same sentence as the Prime Minister has done. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.400 If James Patterson thinks there's no Islamophobia in Australia, he's wrong. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.800 He didn't say that, though, He said that when something happens, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.120 it should be enough to just denounce anti Semitism, and he. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.560 Went on to say that they're not at the same levels. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:34.839 Look, but the. 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.679 Poilamatory many are you saying they are at the same 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.319 levels because we've just seen a targeted attack on a synagogue. 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.800 I'm saying, Patricia, that both exist and I'm saying that 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:42.920 both can be called out. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:49.160 Not even the Prime Minister can unequivocally condemn anti Semitism 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.240 as a major threat facing the nation right now, worse 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:53.240 than Islamophobia. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:58.200 Have a look, is anti Semitism a bigger problem than Islamophobia? 0:10:58.760 --> 0:10:59.559 Islamophobia? 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:04.600 I think it's well, any Semitism is a major threat, 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.559 and any Semitism has been. 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:08.120 On the rise. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.760 I mean they're all gas lighting the Jewish community. The 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.480 Labor defense of their lack of action on anti Semitism 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:20.079 has today been to accuse Peter Dutton of playing politics. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.200 Peter Dutton is that he has a political strategy which 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.720 is a very divisive political strategy and that's not leadership. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.200 There is nothing that Peter Dutton won't seek to politicize 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:33.440 and divide our community. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.520 O Peter Dutton decided that it was more important to 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.240 play partisan games. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.360 Yeah, it's Labor that's playing politics here, continuing to focus 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:47.800 on Islamophobia whilst synagogues burn. It's Labor that's playing politics, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.720 posturing to Muslim communities in marginal seats instead of governing 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.880 for all Australia. And Labor is playing politics by their 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:02.160 obsession with United Nations votes, seats for buyers and criticizing Israel. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.480 Well, this is all very wrong. 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:09.400 They shouldn't put politics ahead of community safety. The Abanese 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.400 government needs to focus on their own backyard, their actual job, 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.760 instead of interfering in a foreign war. Well, if the 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.520 Prime Minister and his team of pro Palestinian activists actually 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.520 cared about antisemitism, here's six things that I think they 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:25.920 should do. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.280 Firstly, race hate laws. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.520 They need to arrest the perpetrators who are perpetuating violence 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:37.400 and hatred, not keep arresting the innocent Jewish bystanders in 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:41.560 case their very being is provocative to the haters. Secondly, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.040 we do need a national permit system for protests. We 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.840 need to ban protests if they intimidate the Jewish community. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:53.640 That means no protests outside synagogues or outside Jewish homes, 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:58.640 because those protests merely attack people of Jewish faith. It's 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.600 got nothing to do with the Middle Least war. They 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.880 need to stop provocative public criticism of Israel that fans 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.920 the flames of anti Semitism. As we've been speaking about, 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:14.800 words matter, calm down the tensions. Number four, they need 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.920 to announce a judicial inquiry into antisemitism on university campuses. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.560 They voted this down when Julie and Lisa put it forward. 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.280 Number five, the Prime Minister should instruct law enforcement to 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.040 use the full force of the law and the powers 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.800 available to them to crack down on anti Semitic incidents. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.959 And number six, and this is on migration. They need 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:42.480 to ensure that proha mus antisemit anti Semites aren't being 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:47.200 flown into our country only to erode our Australian values. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.120 Well that's my six things that I think the Abnezi 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.400 government needs to do right now that would make a 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:59.480 tangible difference to our way of life. Pretty simple, none 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.520 of them complicated. They can be done today now. I 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.679 thought there was an excellent column in The Australian Today 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.760 by columnist Claire Lehman, and she put it well when 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.560 she said that the Albanezy government has failed to move 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.600 beyond platitudes or the Prime Minister has failed to conveil 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.760 authority on an issue that requires leadership. And she writes 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.880 that since the horrific Upper House rally, Albanezi has followed 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.520 the model of indifference shown by the New South Wales Police. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:32.480 He says antisemitism has no place in Australia while anti 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:37.200 Israel protesters freely demonstrate in front of synagogues. He takes 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.200 no responsibility for surging attacks on Jews while undermining the 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:45.520 world's only Jewish state. And she makes the excellent point 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.040 that many political and also corporate leaders who claim the 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:53.640 moral high ground on other issues, have been silent on 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:59.720 anti Semitism. She writes, rushing to champion indigenous and LGBTQA 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:04.280 plus issues, our left leaning leaders for mute when confronting 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:09.000 violent hatred directed at Jewish Australians. She says the vicious 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.080 hatred may come from a militant few, but it's the 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:16.680 silent majority, particularly those in positions of power and influence 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:21.320 who let it spread. And that's why James Patterson and 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.520 Dave Sharma are tonight urging the Foreign Minister to stop 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:30.840 trying to discredit Israel because this language is only giving 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.520 license to the Jew haters to continue their mission of 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:43.200 intimidation and persecution. And as I said, Dave Sharma will 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.280 be on the show a bit later, but now let's 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.200 get reaction from former Speaker of the House Bronman Bishop 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.520 and Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.720 Welcome show, Bromwin. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.640 The Prime Minister was playing tennis, he was meeting with 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:57.800 labored donors. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.600 He's had his eye off the ball on this. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.720 The Prime Minister is incapable of leading. As a fact 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.120 I've said again and again, he was never ever talked 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:07.240 about as being a leader. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.600 He is not capable of leading. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.720 But what he and Pennywong are doing is to allow 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:18.720 the normalization of anti Semitic behavior so that people will 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.080 not react to it. And when Hitler became Chancellor in 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.040 Germany in nineteen thirty three, the first thing they did 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.720 was to go to the universities to make sure that 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:32.400 they accepted the normalization of the hatred of Jews. We've 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.520 seen what's happened on our campuses. It is because there 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:39.040 is no leadership here that is said, this is untenable. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:44.200 It must not happen. Get away with this word unacceptable. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.360 Action needs to be taking, something has to be done 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.720 to prevent it, and that means that leaders have to 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.080 take a strong stance. And this man is incapable of it, 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.280 absolutely incapable. And the gains at Pennyway. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:16:59.080 Because he's weak. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.560 So he's incapable of leadership on any issue. Or do 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.879 you think it's because of his past pro Palestinian. 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.239 Combination of both. He was always a part of a 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.960 mob when he was doing that. Now he's in a 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.800 leadership position, incapable except when he wants to put in 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:19.399 a new candidate. Little pleas ins faction. So it's not 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.560 good enough anymore to say, oh, look he finally went 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.560 to that synagogue in Melbourne. He should have gone there 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.679 before he went to Perse. He's got his own plane, 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:30.680 for God's sake, you him. 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.600 Do it, Joe. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.040 He's been to a bar Mitz for now though, congratulations Albow. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.200 I think part of the I mean, if you compare 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.720 and contrast the responses to the same problem by Anthony 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.959 Abernezer and Chris Mins. I think you see the difference 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:48.480 between someone who has a long history in the right 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.600 of the Labor Party and instinctively knows what to do 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.159 and knows to do it, knows what to do immediately, 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.440 and then you have someone like Anthony Alberineze I think, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.880 to his credit, is genuinely trying to govern and from 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.840 the center and genuinely believes himself to be a centrist. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:05.680 I can tell you that is what I can promise 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.320 you that is what he genuinely believes. But it is 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.440 something he doesn't have a great deal of practicing, a 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.960 great deal of experience in, and so something that would 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.159 be completely obvious to you people of the center to 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.560 get on a plane go straight to the Syneagogue he had, 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.199 or to call it a terror attack, or to you know, 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.399 to establish an AFP task forces to anti Semitism, and 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:25.880 to know when. 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.320 He says some of his adviser is telling him this 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:29.240 as well. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:29.400 I'm not sure. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.600 I'm yeah, Look, I'm not sure about the quality of 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.520 the advice that he's getting on some of these issues. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:35.920 I know there's a couple of people. 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.720 In his office who are very good and there's probably 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.200 one or two who I don't know why. I would 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.479 never name names, but I would not know why they 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:45.480 were there in first place. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.000 But I do it. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.560 But and Chris Mens, though his instincts, his heart in 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:51.240 the right place. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:52.840 Someone video to speech. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.280 He gave it Central Synagogue in Sydney on Friday night, and. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.480 He really gets you could just see ye. 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:00.560 He speaks from the heart when he talks about this, 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.879 and he doesn't shy away, you know, he says, I 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.040 take responsibility. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:05.040 We haven't done enough. 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:06.240 You know. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:07.680 I try and get him on the show. I don't 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:08.760 know why he doesn't come in the show. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.480 He could direct he's police minister to make sure the 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:13.280 police act. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.560 Yes, they haven't been. I agree with you. 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.840 He's introducing new laws very well. 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.359 He means to be mister nice guy and get up 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.080 there and say all the right things. But until he 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.920 gets control of that police minister and makes her either 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.479 be moved aside and someone else put in so that 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.440 the police actually act as they should have done at 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.199 the opera House right from the beginning, or even the 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:38.760 other night in Elizabeth Street. 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.200 But he's introducing new laws so the police have clear 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:43.919 grounds to be able to do that, and that is 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:45.119 something has doing. 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.639 Outside of synagogue or places of worship. You know, he 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.199 recognizes the problem and he moves to act on it. 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.520 And I think absolutely protest should have been bound outside 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.520 places of worship a long time ago. Let's move on 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.359 to this extraordinary story coming out of New York. Police 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:05.160 have arrested and charged Luigi Mangioni with a shocking public 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.080 murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Now, this is 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.080 a twenty six year old He was recognized by an 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:16.280 employee at McDonald's in Pennsylvania, who then called the police. 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.560 But I think, what's employee of the month. I have 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:20.560 to say, what an extraordinary. 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.520 Effort employee of the world from McDonald's. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.640 But so absurd about this is how some Americans we've 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:31.439 seen this on social media are now idolizing this assassin. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.120 They're worshiping him as a hero because of some bizarre 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.440 anti corporate sentiment in the United States. 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:44.320 This man is a socialist, he is revolutionary in that 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:50.480 sense his behavior and the man is charged is yet 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.399 to be tried in the court of law, and he 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.480 hasn't pleaded, so we don't know what situation that is. 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.359 But if he is found to be guilty and the 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:03.399 manifest that he put out that he is a socialist. 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:07.200 And this is what happens when elites. If it is him, 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:12.359 the elite upbringing, he is captured by the socialist doctrines, 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:14.840 then that's when they start to go off the whales. 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.960 And it doesn't matter whether it's the Marxist doctrine or 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:22.600 the National Socialist doctrine, or the Hotel or the Chinese 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:27.120 Communist Party doctrine. It is all socialism and the end 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.400 is inevitable, so we have. 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:31.240 To be very careful. 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.919 They're the same sort of people who were would be 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.800 assassin's of Donald Trump, same sort of people. 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:37.960 Yeah, it's terrifying. 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.960 Joe, as Bardwin just mentioned, he did have a privileged upbringing, 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:46.119 we socialist thing more about his background, went to an 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:47.280 Ivy League school. 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.560 I mean, this is just such a shocking, bizarre stoctor. 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.920 People seem to think that socialism or socialist radicals are 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.439 people who appear organically from the working class. 0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.639 That is not true. That is not true. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:04.679 Socialism is an agree with Bondman. Socialism is an incredibly 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.320 dangerous and violent doctrine, and it is one that is 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:13.000 deliberately imposed upon people from the top down. Carl Martz 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.720 came from a family of lawyers who owned vineyards. Frederick 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:20.439 Engel's family literally owned factories that the workers worked in 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.919 and between them, these guys wrote the Communist manifesto and 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.159 told the workers what was good for them, what was 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:30.280 in their interest. These are hopelessly misguided people. They are 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.800 ideologues for whom the ideology and the theory is more 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.720 important than any individual human life, and that all human. 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.119 Life get to this case, a twenty six year a 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:45.040 young guy waits for hours and hours outside it for. 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.840 The cause, for the cause that's right, because they. 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.960 Believe that people are imbued with that belief side. 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:53.080 For the cause that's right. What happens absolutely true. 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.400 To the cause, and the people who are now feeling 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.600 some sort of empathy towards this man are of the 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.920 same ilk. Which is why it is so important, why 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:05.679