1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: And Whipper podcast. 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: It was a big one on Married at First Sight 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: last night, but I wanted to jump through the screen 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: and give Josh the biggest hug. Now, Melissa, you would 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: have if you've watched a little bit of the show. Melissa, 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: she called herself the freak in the sheets. She was 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: paired up with Josh, who's quite conservative. There was a 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: question of manhood last night. It was really awkward to watch, 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: but this is what was said, Melissy. 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Did you question his manhood? When did I question your manhood? 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: What did I say about your man You said repeatedly, 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: I need a man. I came here to meet a man. 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have said that. 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: That's the other thing. I wasn't sure whether she was 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: talking about masculinity or his actual manhood. 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: You know, Josh is obviously trying to push this to 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: the side and forget about all this. But lucky enough 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: to have a chat to us this morning. Thanks for 19 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: coming on, Josh. 20 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Thanks mate, I really appreciate it. 21 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: Josh would have felt you would have felt a lot 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: of support after Australia saw last night's episode. 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was difficult to watch, but it's been nice 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: having friends and family and then all these strangers across 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: in and it reach out, which is been very nice. 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: A little bit overwhelming, but yeah. 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: Nice, Josh, can I ask? And it must be disappointing 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: and we you know, Maddie de Greek knows you as 29 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: well and was telling us that you're such a great guy. 30 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: You go on a show like this, You're putting yourself 31 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: out there. Now you know, you know the history of 32 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: the show. But it must be really disappointing when you 33 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: and I wouldn't say that you're a conservative guy, but 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: you made the decision that you went on the show 35 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: that you and you know what, A majority of blokes 36 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: are like this. They don't want to talk about intimacy. 37 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: You want to sort of keep that to yourself. But 38 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: when they pair you up with a woman like that, 39 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: you must have known very early and was very disappointed 40 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: that this is not going to go the right way. 41 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: Ah if I don't know if I was disappointed, but 42 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: probably the thing I would say right is that I 43 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: know that the show has its own reputation, but I 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: kind of just went in thinking, well, the show have 45 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: a reputation, but I still want to be me. I 46 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: still want to be true to myself and be genuine, 47 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: So that's I'm trying to kind of approach it. Even 48 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: when I was getting asked questions repeatedly about intimacy, I 49 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: was it's like, well, you know, like this is how 50 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: I was raised, and I didn't really want to drill 51 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: into that, and look, you know, it was just we're 52 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: just two very different people. I'm not going to punch 53 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: down to Sabel or have any conflict with her. We 54 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: were two different people, that's all. 55 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: Do you know the thing I found Josh last night, 56 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: And I could be jumping the gun here, but it 57 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: was almost like you hinted it. In previous relationships, there'd 58 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: been an issue like this before where your masculinity or 59 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: your manhood, whatever you want to call it, had been 60 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: brought into question. Was that a fair assessment? 61 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: No, I didn't think. I mean, you know, look, as 62 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: you're when you become a bit of a single person, 63 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: you do have those times where you questioned whether you're 64 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: enough or someone. And that was probably the key thing 65 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: I was trying to draw out. And that was something 66 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: that I mentioned on the honeymoon when we did be 67 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: honesty box. You know, it was what one of the 68 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: fears I had whether I was enough for someone, but 69 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: it did, you know, like, looking back in the episode, 70 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: it did feel like my masculinity was always kind of 71 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: at the surface of a question by any number of people, 72 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: but certainly by Mel, which was unfortunate. 73 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: Do you know what, Joshah, I couldn't understand, you know what. 74 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: She sat on the couch next to you, and she 75 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: didn't seem affected at all, and I don't think she 76 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: understood the enormity of your pain. Well, can I ask you? 77 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: You left the room and then you came back then 78 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: John the expert, she wanted to stay. So really the 79 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: rules say that you had to stick around for another week. 80 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: You made a decision, I want to leave. Did you 81 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: have any did you have any conversation with her after 82 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: that filming on that day or have you spoken to 83 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: us since? 84 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? So the next morning I woke up to a 85 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: message from Bell, and then I got a call from 86 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: an unknown number from Bell and we had a brief conversation. 87 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: We didn't then talk until you know, a bit later on, 88 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: and I sent her a message just before all the 89 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: wedding wishing her the best. But yeah, we haven't spoken 90 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: that much, Okay. 91 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: Josh, you know what I mean. 92 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: Nice quickly. Is she sorry, Josh? Did she apologize? 93 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Well, she apologized on the couch, and so you know, 94 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: I've just got to take it at pace on you. 95 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: I hope that there's a bit of a reflection of 96 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, the way that she had behaved in the 97 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: way that you know, like maybe she had treated me 98 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: in the things that she had said. And that's probably 99 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: the only question that she could answer the fairly. 100 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: What about today though, after watching that episode last night, 101 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: you must have got an apology from her today. 102 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: No, I haven't heard from mel today. But we all 103 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: we all have our own life. I'm sure she's doing 104 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: things that's up for her her desire. 105 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: Josh, you're a true gentleman. I can hear it and 106 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: everything you're saying, you're being very considerate of everyone involved. 107 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: I mean even for the average guy, right, no matter 108 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: what it is and who you are. I mean fair 109 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: to say Melissa was keen on doing it more than 110 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: once a day. 111 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not going to answer that question. That's that's 112 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: something that she can cover. 113 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: Off because she just seems it seemed to be and 114 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: what was shown and how it was edited was that 115 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: she was at you twenty four to seven wanting to 116 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: do that. 117 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: Again, that's something for her to comment on. I mean, 118 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: the question around physical intimacy was always pretty close in 119 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: the again, close to the surface. It came up a 120 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: number of stories. 121 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: It was consistent, you know. 122 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: Like we would have conversations about it, and we kept 123 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: on coming back to it over and over. 124 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: Josh, do you find it disappointing? We read an article 125 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: the other day that now, because you know that the 126 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: question with married at First Sight contestants is that they 127 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: go on there to boost their profile, right, we obviously 128 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: you didn't want to do that. You wanted to find love. 129 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: Does it disappoint you when you hear that, you know, 130 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: Melissa's thinking about opening up an old fan's only Fans 131 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: account now after a time on the show. 132 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: I did see that, but I mean a questionability of 133 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: something like that, But look, I was I went in 134 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: there hoping to meet someone, and then I kind of 135 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: considered that if it didn't work, then maybe someone will 136 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: watch it say that that's quite a nice guy that 137 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I would want to spend the rest of my life. 138 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: So that's kind of that was my motivations going in. 139 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: Josh, you're also thinking about starting your own only as well, 140 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: she will not be starting one of those I misread that. 141 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: I've misread that. 142 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: Can we also, can we look at the silver lining here, right? 143 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: You know, you went in there and you were yourself. 144 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: I think last night, the way that you presented yourself 145 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: was unbelievable. I think it can only be a win 146 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: win for you now, because you know what the thing 147 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: is with this though, Melissa's already talking that she's she's 148 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: a barber and she's no, she's not a barber. Sorry, 149 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: she's a hairdresser. 150 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: She's hair dressing. 151 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. So she has already said that people have 152 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: come into her salon asking, you know, you're the freaking 153 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: the sheets. Now, that's probably what she wants. But you, 154 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: on the other hand, Josh, now you've presented yourself. I 155 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: think you're going to get Have you had a lot 156 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: of messages already from women that would like to meet you? 157 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: Josh? Yeah, I mean I have had people reach out 158 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: on Facebook and LinkedIn, which has been nice. Yeah, I'm 159 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: not there yet. I don't think I'm there. 160 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: Again, you know, and it's to be hard to know 161 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: when to pop your head up and start having a 162 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: look around. Josh, I mean, what I can tell you, 163 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: and this is an exclusive invitation. I don't throw this 164 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: out to anybody. Mate. We do a thing on this 165 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: show called traffic dating. Now, I mean Big Tony was 166 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: on traffic dating not long ago. He's now married, there's 167 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: a bub on the way, and they've bought a house together. 168 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: So the success rate of traffic dating is high. And 169 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: I would extend the invitation to you to come back 170 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: on this show tomorrow and do. 171 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: Traffic I'd like to get Josh into the studio. 172 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: Now. 173 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: That could be at any time, and it might take 174 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: a while, but Josh, would you consider doing traffic dating? 175 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: Oh? Look, I'd consider anything. Yeah, absolutely good. 176 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: Be a bit of fun, Josh, lock him in. I 177 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: think we fine, as long as Melissa doesn't call through. 178 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: Well, no, I just well, what is if you had 179 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: one chance to say something to Melissa? 180 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: Now? 181 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: Is there anything else that you would like to say, Josh. 182 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: Not necessarily to Melissa, but just you know, the astraand public. 183 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: Maybe just just stop attacking her and bulink her online. 184 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't enjoy reading any of those comments that doesn't 185 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: raise me up or make me feel No, yeah, that's 186 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: probably I'd say that more of the public than see. 187 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. That's why Josh is your boutique 188 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: range of man. He is top shelf and you know 189 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 3: what when you know what is your fancy chocolates. 190 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: It was so right last night. Who was the guy 191 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: on the couch Josh who questioned the word masculinity because 192 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: he said with drunk, Yeah, drunken. That was very well said, 193 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: because you know what, a man who does show his 194 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: emotions like you did last night, I think he's more 195 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: of a man than anything. So mate, we appreciate we 196 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: know that you haven't been doing many interviews and we 197 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: appreciate your time. 198 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: Josh, thank you. I appreciate it. Guys, thanks very much. 199 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: I really appreciate the chat. 200 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: You've got a big heart, Joshua. We'll be in touch 201 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: Rey Traffic dating mate. 202 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: Thanks legend. 203 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: See mate, we will. 204 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: Hound you until you do it. Josh. You can't get out, 205 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: you can't get out of it, Legend. 206 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast.