1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:14,041 Speaker 1: Appolgie Production, very special guest here, one of my bestest 2 00:00:14,041 --> 00:00:16,041 Speaker 1: friends in the whole wide world. Got makes you here? 3 00:00:16,401 --> 00:00:19,201 Speaker 1: I love there's a particular topic that I feel you're 4 00:00:19,361 --> 00:00:22,241 Speaker 1: very passionate about and you help so many women through 5 00:00:22,321 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: and that's connecting with that inner child. This work. It 6 00:00:26,201 --> 00:00:29,001 Speaker 1: doesn't ever stop right because more things come up and 7 00:00:29,081 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, let's unpack that. Oh that might have 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,521 Speaker 1: happened because when this happened when I was younger, And 9 00:00:34,601 --> 00:00:35,961 Speaker 1: it never gets to a point where you're like, oh, 10 00:00:35,961 --> 00:00:37,521 Speaker 1: I've done that, I'm all good now. 11 00:00:37,721 --> 00:00:41,121 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I always say that if you're dealing with something 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: from your past, I don't feel that it's ever just 13 00:00:43,681 --> 00:00:45,361 Speaker 2: wrapped up into a box. You put a bowl in it, 14 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:48,161 Speaker 2: put it away in a shelf, yay, Like it is 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,481 Speaker 2: a part of you and it gets to be something 16 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:53,561 Speaker 2: that you learn how to live with, maybe more ease 17 00:00:53,641 --> 00:00:57,441 Speaker 2: and grace, or maybe it doesn't affect you as big 18 00:00:57,521 --> 00:00:59,441 Speaker 2: as it used to. You know you kind of it 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,161 Speaker 2: can ease off. But we have memories. Our body has memories. 20 00:01:04,241 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: It stored somatic. There are some modalities that do say 21 00:01:08,281 --> 00:01:11,161 Speaker 2: they can rearrange the way that you remember things, and 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,321 Speaker 2: so Therefore how you react to those things now might 23 00:01:14,401 --> 00:01:17,081 Speaker 2: not affect you. But yeah, I think that some of 24 00:01:17,121 --> 00:01:18,681 Speaker 2: these things are always going to be there, even if 25 00:01:18,681 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: a little bit. 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,481 Speaker 1: Something that you said to me, which I've done two 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: in a Child healings with you now and they were amazing. 28 00:01:24,401 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: I've spoken about in the podcast before, but something that 29 00:01:26,681 --> 00:01:29,161 Speaker 1: you said in one of them really stuck with me 30 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,761 Speaker 1: because I kind of had separated like my younger self 31 00:01:32,881 --> 00:01:35,481 Speaker 1: as like my past self, like almost like she's gone, 32 00:01:35,961 --> 00:01:37,761 Speaker 1: but you were like, she's always a part of you. 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: So now when I try to connect with my inner child, 34 00:01:40,321 --> 00:01:42,601 Speaker 1: it's like she's right next to me or she's within me, 35 00:01:42,681 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: but I visualize her right there and she's never going anywhere. 36 00:01:45,761 --> 00:01:47,921 Speaker 1: And my job now is to always make sure that 37 00:01:47,921 --> 00:01:50,041 Speaker 1: I'm there for her and giving her what she needs. 38 00:01:50,281 --> 00:01:53,201 Speaker 1: And that's been really helpful because it's just in a way, 39 00:01:53,241 --> 00:01:55,921 Speaker 1: it's just another way to support myself because she's a 40 00:01:55,961 --> 00:01:58,321 Speaker 1: part of me. She's not separate to me. But I 41 00:01:58,361 --> 00:02:00,801 Speaker 1: have thought that it's separate because that part of my 42 00:02:00,841 --> 00:02:03,801 Speaker 1: life's done, but it's never really done. Yeah, that was 43 00:02:03,841 --> 00:02:06,161 Speaker 1: a cool realization for me. It's helped me continue to 44 00:02:06,161 --> 00:02:09,321 Speaker 1: be able to from those healings, not disconnect with her. 45 00:02:09,361 --> 00:02:11,721 Speaker 1: I stayed connect with her because that first one it 46 00:02:11,721 --> 00:02:13,441 Speaker 1: was in your lounge room, second was in your bedroom. 47 00:02:13,441 --> 00:02:15,121 Speaker 1: In the first one, I was telling you, it was 48 00:02:15,161 --> 00:02:17,441 Speaker 1: like so quickly I could drop in and see her, 49 00:02:17,721 --> 00:02:20,161 Speaker 1: and I cried so much because I was like, I 50 00:02:20,161 --> 00:02:22,481 Speaker 1: felt like this real human that I got to cuddle 51 00:02:22,481 --> 00:02:26,281 Speaker 1: and like actually fully see her pain and see her tears. 52 00:02:26,321 --> 00:02:28,241 Speaker 1: And it was so easy to connect with her because 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,441 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's this, yeah, like a daughter or like 54 00:02:30,481 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: a friend, like you want to be there for them. 55 00:02:32,561 --> 00:02:34,761 Speaker 1: It was just such a beautiful experience that I wish 56 00:02:34,841 --> 00:02:37,041 Speaker 1: everyone could tap into that, but I do find it 57 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,681 Speaker 1: it was harder to do by myself. Like, it is 58 00:02:39,761 --> 00:02:42,081 Speaker 1: nice to have a woman's coach like yourself who can 59 00:02:42,121 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: guide you through that. So could you talk us through 60 00:02:44,441 --> 00:02:47,441 Speaker 1: a little bit about your healings and how you learn 61 00:02:47,481 --> 00:02:50,281 Speaker 1: how to do that and just how powerful that work is. 62 00:02:50,881 --> 00:02:53,281 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cool that you had that experience and 63 00:02:53,321 --> 00:02:56,841 Speaker 2: that can just now shifted things for you moving forward, 64 00:02:57,361 --> 00:03:02,321 Speaker 2: because You're so right, it's absolutely this little girl she 65 00:03:02,721 --> 00:03:07,001 Speaker 2: experienced whatever she experienced back then, or even your younger self, 66 00:03:07,041 --> 00:03:10,001 Speaker 2: whatever age it was, they had this experience, and we 67 00:03:10,081 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: grow up and we think, oh, that shouldn't bother me now, 68 00:03:12,881 --> 00:03:14,641 Speaker 2: Like I was so little there it was all of 69 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: this time ago. We kind of have these coping mechanisms 70 00:03:17,761 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: within ourselves which our body tries to protect us. Right, 71 00:03:20,561 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: it's doing its job. But that little gushi is you, 72 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: this body that was her. So those thoughts, those feelings, 73 00:03:28,401 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: any traumas, any joys, and good memories too, like they 74 00:03:32,161 --> 00:03:34,441 Speaker 2: reside in your body, in your mind and your self 75 00:03:34,481 --> 00:03:39,521 Speaker 2: conscious they're there. So to just discount her and what 76 00:03:39,601 --> 00:03:42,841 Speaker 2: she experienced is yeah, a big part of the disconnection 77 00:03:42,961 --> 00:03:46,201 Speaker 2: that ws her and feel And a lot of people 78 00:03:46,241 --> 00:03:49,081 Speaker 2: think with different healing modalities, and let's say in a 79 00:03:49,161 --> 00:03:52,361 Speaker 2: child healing, they might think, oh, I'm so scared to 80 00:03:52,401 --> 00:03:54,841 Speaker 2: go back there and feel that again or unpack it, 81 00:03:55,041 --> 00:03:56,961 Speaker 2: or like that hurt me so much, Like I don't 82 00:03:56,961 --> 00:03:59,961 Speaker 2: want to go back there. But when you're healing these 83 00:04:00,001 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: parts of you and you're allowing the emotion to move 84 00:04:02,801 --> 00:04:06,081 Speaker 2: through you and you're being held in that and you 85 00:04:06,521 --> 00:04:11,441 Speaker 2: are actually processing what happened afterwards, most people feel really 86 00:04:11,521 --> 00:04:16,041 Speaker 2: light and they actually feel like wow, like they might 87 00:04:16,081 --> 00:04:18,081 Speaker 2: have a really good sleep that night or have lots 88 00:04:18,081 --> 00:04:21,161 Speaker 2: of downloads or you know, things are shifting. But generally 89 00:04:21,161 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: it's not as heavy as people think it might be, 90 00:04:24,001 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: and it's not as energetically draining often as people think 91 00:04:27,521 --> 00:04:28,241 Speaker 2: it might be. 92 00:04:28,241 --> 00:04:31,201 Speaker 1: Because you're clearing it, you're clearing stuff that is blocked, 93 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,241 Speaker 1: or you've been carrying the weight of it for thirty 94 00:04:34,241 --> 00:04:36,521 Speaker 1: odd years, you actually get to move through some of that. 95 00:04:36,681 --> 00:04:38,961 Speaker 2: The pain that people feel of like that's going to 96 00:04:39,041 --> 00:04:41,881 Speaker 2: be too much or painful or overwhelming is the pain 97 00:04:41,921 --> 00:04:45,521 Speaker 2: that they're feeling from suppressing and from carrying the way 98 00:04:45,681 --> 00:04:49,561 Speaker 2: and like trying to stifle the heavy feelings and emotions. 99 00:04:49,601 --> 00:04:52,041 Speaker 2: So they're like, oh no, that's painful, I'm going to 100 00:04:52,081 --> 00:04:54,921 Speaker 2: shut off to that again instead of learning how to 101 00:04:55,001 --> 00:04:58,041 Speaker 2: let it flow. I personally think a lot of these 102 00:04:58,121 --> 00:05:01,721 Speaker 2: things that you talk about, like confidence and feelings of anxiousness, 103 00:05:02,121 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: a lot of these things started somewhere and they've rooted 104 00:05:04,801 --> 00:05:08,681 Speaker 2: some where, So obviously going back and trying to find 105 00:05:08,721 --> 00:05:11,561 Speaker 2: and work on the source of where they originated from 106 00:05:12,361 --> 00:05:16,161 Speaker 2: it is so powerful in your healing journey. Instead of 107 00:05:16,201 --> 00:05:20,601 Speaker 2: doing these affirmations or reading these books or trying to 108 00:05:20,641 --> 00:05:24,081 Speaker 2: take steps forward, instead of clearing and shifting the past. 109 00:05:24,561 --> 00:05:26,961 Speaker 2: It just propels you forward a lot more. Not to 110 00:05:27,001 --> 00:05:30,161 Speaker 2: say that doing affirmations and these other things are bad 111 00:05:30,241 --> 00:05:33,161 Speaker 2: or you shouldn't do them, it's just the changing your 112 00:05:33,241 --> 00:05:35,961 Speaker 2: neural pathways in your brain. It's a lot harder. It's 113 00:05:36,041 --> 00:05:38,841 Speaker 2: like I always use this analogy that if you were 114 00:05:38,841 --> 00:05:41,801 Speaker 2: going down a snow field and you went down the 115 00:05:41,801 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: same path over and over again on your snowboard, you'd like, 116 00:05:44,641 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: make this deep ridge, and now what you want to do. 117 00:05:47,521 --> 00:05:49,721 Speaker 2: You want to go somewhere else. So when you're trying 118 00:05:49,761 --> 00:05:53,601 Speaker 2: to carve the new path, it's like harder and your 119 00:05:53,641 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: board might get a bit stuck, and so then you 120 00:05:55,401 --> 00:05:57,601 Speaker 2: go back the old way, the old path. And this 121 00:05:57,681 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: is what it's like, trying to create those new neural 122 00:05:59,561 --> 00:06:02,321 Speaker 2: pathways in your brain and take different action when you're 123 00:06:02,361 --> 00:06:05,201 Speaker 2: wanting change and you're wanting to do something different. So 124 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,281 Speaker 2: it can be really hard if you're just like I'm 125 00:06:07,281 --> 00:06:10,961 Speaker 2: going to try. But if you get out a shovel 126 00:06:11,161 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: and you make the new pathway where you want to 127 00:06:13,561 --> 00:06:16,361 Speaker 2: go and clear the snow, then it's a lot easier 128 00:06:16,401 --> 00:06:19,481 Speaker 2: for you to make that decision to choose differently, to 129 00:06:19,561 --> 00:06:23,641 Speaker 2: do differently, to be honest people that I work with 130 00:06:23,641 --> 00:06:27,801 Speaker 2: one on one, their entire lives change. Like they are 131 00:06:28,401 --> 00:06:31,521 Speaker 2: just able to show up so differently as parents in 132 00:06:31,561 --> 00:06:35,001 Speaker 2: their relationships, in going after the dreams and goals that 133 00:06:35,041 --> 00:06:39,721 Speaker 2: they have. Like people have new relationships and new businesses 134 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,161 Speaker 2: and new jobs, and just like they really get to 135 00:06:43,281 --> 00:06:48,321 Speaker 2: flourish and they get to clear self sabotage self doubt. 136 00:06:48,841 --> 00:06:52,441 Speaker 2: I've had a beautiful client find her purpose and her 137 00:06:52,521 --> 00:06:55,921 Speaker 2: calling and start a beautiful business helping and healing other people. 138 00:06:56,561 --> 00:06:59,041 Speaker 2: I've had a beautiful client who was able to let 139 00:06:59,081 --> 00:07:01,961 Speaker 2: go over a relationship that was no longer serving her, 140 00:07:02,041 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: and then now she's engaged to a new incredible part 141 00:07:05,641 --> 00:07:10,281 Speaker 2: and just thriving and living more to her values, more 142 00:07:10,321 --> 00:07:14,121 Speaker 2: aligned to her values. And yeah, just so many stories 143 00:07:14,201 --> 00:07:16,321 Speaker 2: like that, So. 144 00:07:15,521 --> 00:07:17,961 Speaker 1: Sounds like it helps them thrive, not just survive through 145 00:07:18,001 --> 00:07:20,161 Speaker 1: each Shay. A lot of people get so caught up 146 00:07:20,161 --> 00:07:21,601 Speaker 1: and thinking like this is just my life, this is 147 00:07:21,641 --> 00:07:23,321 Speaker 1: how it's always been, Like I've always thought like that, 148 00:07:23,481 --> 00:07:24,881 Speaker 1: or my mum did this, It's just what it is. 149 00:07:24,921 --> 00:07:27,641 Speaker 1: But it actually doesn't have to be like that. You 150 00:07:27,681 --> 00:07:30,281 Speaker 1: can change your beliefs and you can change the way 151 00:07:30,321 --> 00:07:32,521 Speaker 1: you see things even though your childhood might have looked 152 00:07:32,521 --> 00:07:35,401 Speaker 1: a certain way. Do you think the first seven years 153 00:07:35,401 --> 00:07:38,281 Speaker 1: of our life is the most impressionable and that's where 154 00:07:38,321 --> 00:07:41,241 Speaker 1: most of our beliefs and experiences come from, that shape 155 00:07:41,321 --> 00:07:43,161 Speaker 1: us to be how we show up as adults. 156 00:07:43,361 --> 00:07:47,361 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they say. That's the most delicate time 157 00:07:47,401 --> 00:07:50,601 Speaker 2: in our life, those seven years where we're so connected 158 00:07:50,641 --> 00:07:54,601 Speaker 2: with our caregivers, so we really learning and watching from 159 00:07:54,601 --> 00:07:58,201 Speaker 2: them and being little sponges. And if we're not receiving 160 00:07:58,241 --> 00:08:01,881 Speaker 2: the love and affection and care, and we're not held 161 00:08:01,881 --> 00:08:04,681 Speaker 2: through our emotions and you know a lot of these 162 00:08:04,721 --> 00:08:07,201 Speaker 2: common things. You know, all of our parents doing the 163 00:08:07,201 --> 00:08:09,921 Speaker 2: best they could with what they have. But there is 164 00:08:10,201 --> 00:08:12,881 Speaker 2: a lot of people out there walking around that experience that. 165 00:08:13,481 --> 00:08:17,641 Speaker 2: So that's hard wiring your system telling it this is 166 00:08:17,681 --> 00:08:20,321 Speaker 2: how it is. And it's also putting your body in 167 00:08:21,161 --> 00:08:24,561 Speaker 2: maybe fight and flight, or it's telling your nervous system 168 00:08:24,601 --> 00:08:27,361 Speaker 2: then that like this is dangerous, I'm in fear. And 169 00:08:27,401 --> 00:08:30,561 Speaker 2: we might develop some tendencies to help us gain a 170 00:08:30,561 --> 00:08:33,361 Speaker 2: little bit of control. So we might have picked up 171 00:08:33,401 --> 00:08:36,521 Speaker 2: some habits or some little quirks or things or behaviors 172 00:08:36,521 --> 00:08:39,641 Speaker 2: and patterns that now we're thinking that doesn't serve me 173 00:08:39,721 --> 00:08:42,281 Speaker 2: anymore or could come back from those years. 174 00:08:42,401 --> 00:08:46,521 Speaker 1: Yeah, So for anyone listening and they've never done any 175 00:08:46,561 --> 00:08:49,721 Speaker 1: of this work but they feel a pull to do 176 00:08:49,801 --> 00:08:51,361 Speaker 1: it that I don't know who to go to, that 177 00:08:51,401 --> 00:08:53,401 Speaker 1: I don't know where to start. What advice would you 178 00:08:53,401 --> 00:08:54,081 Speaker 1: give to someone. 179 00:08:54,441 --> 00:08:58,201 Speaker 2: The first bit of advice I would give is to 180 00:08:59,401 --> 00:09:04,521 Speaker 2: really dig into finding the courage to going there and 181 00:09:05,121 --> 00:09:07,801 Speaker 2: finding a way to help yourself feel safe in your body. 182 00:09:08,441 --> 00:09:12,161 Speaker 2: And you know, this work is so nuanced. People can 183 00:09:12,321 --> 00:09:15,001 Speaker 2: be feeling really really unsafe in their current state in 184 00:09:15,041 --> 00:09:18,241 Speaker 2: their bodies and think, oh my gosh, to go there, 185 00:09:18,401 --> 00:09:21,681 Speaker 2: it's too much. So the first part of your work 186 00:09:21,681 --> 00:09:25,601 Speaker 2: would be to work on your nervous system, to work 187 00:09:25,641 --> 00:09:28,681 Speaker 2: on just yeah, coming into your body so like breath 188 00:09:28,761 --> 00:09:32,201 Speaker 2: and slowness, and creating a little beautiful space for yourself 189 00:09:32,241 --> 00:09:35,121 Speaker 2: to do any of this work, carving out some time, 190 00:09:35,641 --> 00:09:39,241 Speaker 2: setting up a beautiful little environment. You can also find 191 00:09:39,281 --> 00:09:41,321 Speaker 2: something that can be like a tether for you to 192 00:09:41,441 --> 00:09:44,161 Speaker 2: hold onto, you know, like when people go diving and 193 00:09:44,201 --> 00:09:47,361 Speaker 2: they follow the rope. Something. You might have a pet 194 00:09:47,361 --> 00:09:49,441 Speaker 2: that you want to keep close by in stroke, or 195 00:09:49,601 --> 00:09:52,521 Speaker 2: a teddy or I don't know something that a partner 196 00:09:52,681 --> 00:09:54,241 Speaker 2: or something that you can kind of hold onto for 197 00:09:54,281 --> 00:09:56,241 Speaker 2: a bit of safety as you dip your toe into 198 00:09:56,321 --> 00:09:59,641 Speaker 2: this work, and that keeps you grounded and feeling safe. 199 00:10:00,401 --> 00:10:03,321 Speaker 2: So that's the first thing that I would say. The 200 00:10:03,441 --> 00:10:06,161 Speaker 2: second bit of advice that I always give, which is 201 00:10:06,401 --> 00:10:09,761 Speaker 2: easier for parents, but it can be helpful to anyone, 202 00:10:09,921 --> 00:10:13,601 Speaker 2: is to connect with someone. So if you're a woman, 203 00:10:13,721 --> 00:10:16,241 Speaker 2: connect with a little girl that you know around the 204 00:10:16,321 --> 00:10:19,321 Speaker 2: age that you're wanting to kind of drop into and 205 00:10:19,721 --> 00:10:22,521 Speaker 2: think of her, like, imagine your daughter, imagine your niece, 206 00:10:22,601 --> 00:10:26,361 Speaker 2: imagine whoever it might be, and say, in a moment 207 00:10:26,721 --> 00:10:30,081 Speaker 2: that you might be feeling like you're not confident to 208 00:10:30,121 --> 00:10:32,201 Speaker 2: go and do something or to speak up, to have 209 00:10:32,281 --> 00:10:35,921 Speaker 2: a boundary to express what you want, imagine this being 210 00:10:35,921 --> 00:10:38,241 Speaker 2: your daughter and what you would say to her, and 211 00:10:38,281 --> 00:10:41,921 Speaker 2: how you would hold her, how you would hold her emotions, 212 00:10:42,041 --> 00:10:44,321 Speaker 2: how you would look at her, And then you can 213 00:10:44,321 --> 00:10:45,681 Speaker 2: start to envision that being you. 214 00:10:45,921 --> 00:10:49,001 Speaker 1: Yeah, once you start to surround yourself with people doing 215 00:10:49,001 --> 00:10:51,201 Speaker 1: this work as well, I feel like you can even 216 00:10:51,281 --> 00:10:54,681 Speaker 1: feel a divide of other people that those relationships weren't 217 00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:56,401 Speaker 1: serving you or they're not in that same path as 218 00:10:56,441 --> 00:10:58,001 Speaker 1: you and you can see how that might be holding 219 00:10:58,041 --> 00:11:00,441 Speaker 1: you back. And then you surround yourself with people that 220 00:11:00,481 --> 00:11:01,841 Speaker 1: are doing this work, it just makes you want to 221 00:11:01,881 --> 00:11:03,481 Speaker 1: lean into it more and it makes you feel safe 222 00:11:03,481 --> 00:11:05,241 Speaker 1: to do it as well. And then I think when 223 00:11:05,241 --> 00:11:07,561 Speaker 1: you feel safe and you feel progress, you enjoy it 224 00:11:07,601 --> 00:11:11,801 Speaker 1: more and that's really cool as well,