WEBVTT - Sharri | 8 October 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.600 Live from Israel, and this is a special edition of 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:10.959 Shari Good Evening. I'm good Evening. I'm coming to you 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:12.240 live from Jerusalem. 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.280 Israel is at war, and there was a stark reminder 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.759 of that overnight when on the anniversary of the October 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:24.439 seven attacks, Israel was targeted with missiles in the south, 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:25.880 north and. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:27.000 Over Tel Aviv. 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.680 We were in an open field doing an interview when 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.239 one missile was launched, and I'm going to tell you 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.600 more about that dramatic moment later. I've got another very 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.680 special show tonight, a big interview with former Israeli Prime 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:43.000 Minister Ehud Olmit. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.760 He says it's time for the war to end and. 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:51.120 Reveals that his sources tell him the Hamas leader could 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.760 be dead now his a rival to Nettan Yahoo, so 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.320 he has a different view on how the war. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:57.960 Should play out. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.400 He also takes a subt or dig at our own 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:06.280 Prime Minister, Anthony Albanezi. I've also got tonight an incredible 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.280 story of two young women who were hunted down by 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:15.199 hermas at the Nova Music Festival and miraculously survived. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.319 Four hundred were killed that day. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.959 Also on the show, family members of the nine month 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:26.040 old baby taken hostage in Gaza speak to me sharing 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:31.120 their hope that baby Kafa and brother Ariel are still alive. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.200 And Israeli politician Sharen Haskell will join me live here 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:39.399 in Jerusalem along with distinguished veteran of the Prime Minister's Office, 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:44.200 Danny Seaman. This is a special week of programming from Israel, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.000 and you don't want to miss any of it. Well, first, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.440 let's start with the beautiful vigils that took place around 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:55.880 the world to remember the October seven massacre. In Sydney, 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.920 twelve thousand people gathered in Dover Heights where Peter day 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.720 And has been widely praised for his powerful speech. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.680 We are on the side of civilization over barbarity, and 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.960 that is why every Australian, drawing on their instinct of 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.960 decency and affair go must join with Jewish Australians to 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.120 reject the anti Semitism. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.560 That is real leadership. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.359 In Melbourne, eight thousand came together an individual where Zionist 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:30.120 Victoria President Yossi Goldfarb said anti Semitism had been allowed 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.799 to fester under weak leadership. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.880 There is a permissiveness that has led anti Semitism fester 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.160 a permissiveness encouraged by weak and. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.519 Ambiguous expositions of our foreign policy. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.960 Would have known that the Prime Minister was in the 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:53.600 audience now, I'm told the event ran around two hours overtime, 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:58.280 perhaps punishment for Albinizi, who couldn't possibly have left early 0:02:58.360 --> 0:02:59.880 and had to sit through. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:00.720 All the criticism. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.520 But after all the aggressive pro Hamas protests we've seen, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:10.280 where hatred and terror is celebrated, it's such a contrast 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:15.600 to see these beautiful, peaceful events. They were attended by 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:21.440 both Jews and Christian Australians standing in solidarity against evil. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:26.120 The major memorial event in Israel was held in Tel Aviv, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:31.040 organized by the families who lost loved ones a year ago. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:35.720 No politicians invited. This was a people's event. They were 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.840 meant to be around fifty thousand attending, but fears of 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:44.800 a strike against Israel meant it was closed to the public. Instead, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.480 only the family and friends of those who were murdered 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:52.960 were there, and the event was beamed across Israel to millions. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:58.160 Many gathered in parks to mourn together, and Israel was 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.480 on high alert yesterday, and it turned out there was 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.600 good reason for that. There were three attacks targeting central 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:10.320 Israel on this sacred day of the October seventh anniversary. 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:16.560 Security was tight at this peaceful memorial event, and as 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.560 it was getting underway, I was speaking with a father 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.039 who'd lost four family members at Kibbutzbery. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.040 Suddenly there were sirens. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.920 Yemen was attacking Israel with a surface missile. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:34.880 And here's how that unfolded. Is that lucky or you? 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:36.760 Did you have it locked? 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:38.080 No? 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:43.200 We didn't. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:47.560 Are you still filming, Chris? Okay, we're hearing sirens overhead. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.920 We've just been told to get down on the ground 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.760 and cover our heads, which is what we're doing. We're 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.760 at the memorial ceremony for those who lost their lives 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.360 on the October seven attack a year ago and hasn't 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.080 even started yet, and the siren rates have gone off. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.039 This means there's an incoming rocket. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.200 We've all been told to get down and put our 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:10.839 hands in our heads. Something did you expect this tonight? 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.479 We expected won't open, but we knew it could open. 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:24.360 Siren sounded at one hundred and ninety three locations around Israel, 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.960 and families had to bunker down. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:27.799 In bomb shelters. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.760 The Iron Dome thankfully, intercepted the missile, but if Israel 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:37.040 didn't have such a sophisticated defense system, the death toll 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:42.159 would be unimaginable. The frailty of life in Israel is 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.880 all too real for those whose family members were murdered 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:47.440 or taken hostage. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.159 A year ago, I spoke with the family of baby 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:52.760 Kafir and Ariel. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:59.960 They became a heartbreaking symbol of October seven, bewildered, terrify 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.279 fight as they were taken hostage while in their mother's arms. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:10.880 One year on their faith unknown, their family desperate for answers. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.560 Do you believe they're still alive? 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.599 I just can hope so, because we are well, we 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:23.160 all saw what happened in the tunnels. That are not eating, 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.559 that are not vaccinated, have no condition to live there. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.120 I hopefully, I'm hopefully. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.920 Praying that they that will be all right, because maybe 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.480 the children, maybe somebody that has children, maybe they are 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.799 pity for them and. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.279 Will treat them. But I don't know. We are we 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.840 are dealing here with our terror organization. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.159 There are reports that they might not be with Hamas, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.640 that they might actually be with another terrorist group in Gaza. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.040 That's what we heard, that's what you do. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.040 In the beginning, it was that they was taken by 0:06:58.080 --> 0:06:59.440 another group of terror. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.440 Baby ka the world's youngest hostage. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.320 Yeah, you can see him here. It was I was 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:07.159 the picture here. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.960 What's your message to the international community. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.760 Help us, please? There is no time for them a 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.960 year in captivity. Nobody can understand that. And what is 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.360 purting a pressure on us? Put the pressure on all 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.760 the other countries. Open your eyes. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:28.480 I can I can't understand that it is not baby 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:29.800 is kidnapped. Baby. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.280 It's not a soldier, it's not a pilot, it's not everything. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:37.400 It's a little baby. Look at him, Look at him. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:41.320 It was only on his hand. You also the famous 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.840 picture of Cherry holding the two children in their arms. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:50.680 Yeah, heartbreaking, But how can it be How can somebody 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:51.600 a man or I. 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.640 Don't know, to take them the mother with the two 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.920 sons together, Adam, they are monsters, not humans. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.200 Everybody should understand what we are dealing here with. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.920 And I don't understand why the what is not that 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:09.640 does not understand. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:15.440 That monsters to kidnap a nine month old baby, the 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.320 Bibber's family there, as you can see, making a desperate 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.560 plea through us on sky News for the world to 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:26.119 pay attention and every parent around the world should feel 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.720 agony at the thought of a little baby trapped in 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.560 the grips of terrorists. I also spoke last night to 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.080 the family of twenty year old Nataniel Young, who was 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.199 killed while fighting off Hamas in the South. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.680 Mataw our son was one of the first to go 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:49.480 out from that base to try and. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.040 Fight against the terrorists. 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.120 They didn't know there were so many of them and 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:55.960 amongst the undergrowth, the undergrowth, I must basically ambushed his 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:56.640 unit there. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.400 Found out halfway through the day that so now had 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.040 been taken to a hospital and we didn't know which 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.240 hospital where. It gave me relief that first of all, 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.880 he wasn't dead and he hadn't been taken hostage, because 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.520 at that point we had already heard of some people 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.040 had been taken hostage. So we kind of thought, Okay, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.960 so he's broken his leg, it will get better, everything 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.880 will be fine. But then we got more worried as 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.720 he still wasn't answering his fire drove. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.760 As I'm getting to the hospital, I see the rockets 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:31.400 flying over my head. And when I got to the hospital, 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:38.520 the uh it turned out that I'd got there too 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:43.760 late night, and now had already been had already been 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:50.280 pronounced dead, and you know, I hadn't had the opportunity 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.880 to say goodbye to him. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:59.400 Actress and International Anti Semitism Campaign, and Noah Tishue was 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.160 also the memorial, and she spoke of how Hamas folled 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.640 Israel and the world into thinking it wanted peace when 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:12.120 the entire time it was planning an attack on Israel. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:18.400 The entire time they are fortifying underneath Gaza, building tunnels 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.920 that are larger than the subway system of New York 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.839 City and planning to destroy the state of Israel and 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:25.960 destroy their. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.439 Own people, Yrias and more. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.959 Hamas basically sacrificed Gaza. He knew the devastation that is 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.680 going to happen, and he got exactly what he wanted. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.840 There's so much resilience in Israel, this determination to survive, 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.120 and no matter people's political opinions, there does seem to 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:47.199 be widespread support to defeat the terrorists. Do you think 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.160 that's right? I think that's one hundred percent right. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.800 And you know why, it's exactly why the same lyrics 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.680 of this song, this song is called I Don't have 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.720 Another Country and The thing is that for the Jewish people, 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.160 there is no Plan B. 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.760 We don't have another country. 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.480 They are Jews everywhere in the world. 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.600 They are accepted and assimilated in many places in the world. 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.240 But they all know that to some extent, the state 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.520 of Israel is an insurance policy for every single Jew. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:14.000 Around the world. 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:15.840 And everybody here knows that there are. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.400 Nine million people that live in this country, seven million 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.120 Jews and two million Arabs, and they know that there's 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:26.199 no other country. So Iran and its proxy's really miscalculated 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:30.040 the Jews of Israel and really miscalculated the resiliency of 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:31.559 the people who live here. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.720 No, you came on my show right before October seventh 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.040 last year and we. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.240 Had a conversation about antisemitism. 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:39.320 We've seen that in. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.240 Spades over the past year, and we've seen the pro 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:46.679 Palestinian activists, really pro Hamas activists, because we all are 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.679 pro Palestinian, but the pro Hamas activists pretend that. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.800 They're anti Zionists, but that is being anti Jew. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.480 I believe that at. 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:01.880 The moment, a year into October seventh, nobody is misunderstanding 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:03.679 that antisignism is antisemitism. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.480 Criticizing of the State of Israel. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.400 Criticism of the State of Israel, criticism of Israeli policies 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:09.760 or politicians. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:10.400 Is completely valid. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.199 There's a lot of discussion on the debate that is 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.120 happening in Israel. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.000 That is what a. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:15.800 Flourishing democracy is about. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:20.920 But denying Israel's right to exist, this disproportionate. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.760 Obsession with the state of Israel, this. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.080 Attributing the greatest evils in the world to the single 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.400 Jewish state in the world. Saying that Israel's committing a 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:35.440 genocide is preposterous. Designism and antisemitism are indistinguishable. One is 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.520 the other, and I do believe that people understand this 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.360 more now than they did when I was on your show. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.640 So the lesson we wish we didn't have to learn, 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:44.959 thank you so much now. 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:45.400 I'am s. 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:52.760 No, And the point she makes is absolutely right. How 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:58.000 is it that unprecedented racism against Jews has exploded around 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.839 the world in reaction to what is truly a genocide 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:06.719 against israelis a year ago, we've all felt the darkness 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.880 of the racism being allowed, at first to fester and 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.480 then to explode in our streets, left unchecked by politicians 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:16.640 and law enforcement. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.839 But seeing the tens of thousands. 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:25.240 Who did attend the October seven commemorations around Australia and 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:30.800 the world gives us hope that good will prevail. The 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.600 Jews are not alone, and that the fight against terror 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:39.280 isn't just a paddle for Israel, but one for democracy, 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:45.920 values and freedom around the world. The barbarity and depravity 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:51.360 of October seven shows us that there's no room for failure. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.480 This is a battle that has to be won. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:00.600 Now. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.040 In breaking news, I can reveal that Prime Minister Benjamin 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.120 Netanyahoo and his senior ministers are locked in bunker room 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.520 urgent national security talks. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.040 We can presume this is. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.800 Finalizing Israel's strike against Iran after it launched two hundred 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:22.920 missiles against Israel last week. Now, some Israeli politicians are 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:28.080 urging for a strike on Around's nuclear sites, like Sharan Haskell. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.680 Who'll join me life here in a moment. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.200 But others, like my next guest, former Israeli Prime Minister 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:40.280 Ehud Olmert, don't agree. Olmert is a fierce rival of Netanyahu's. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.160 He was Israel's twelfth prime minister from two thousand and 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:48.040 six to two thousand and nine, including during the Second 0:14:48.200 --> 0:15:00.720 Lebanon War, and here's what he had to say, how 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.480 do you see this war playing out? 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.200 I think that is about time to end it. I 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:13.080 think that Israel did a great deal in breaking down 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:21.119 the Hamas military power. We destroyed most of the tunnels 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:25.560 that were underground in different parts of the city. We 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:31.600 destroyed most of their military units. Perhaps they are still 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:37.680 here and there a few Hamas fighters, but by and large, 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.440 I think to the extent that you can destroy a 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:45.720 terrorist organization hiding in the center of town with the 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:53.960 civilian population and in tunnels without any identified characteristics that 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:58.720 can distinguish them from the population. I think we've done 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.960 everything that we can do entirely, and now the main 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.720 thing is to bring back the hostages. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.080 Well that's what I was going to ask you, mister Ahmad. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.760 Can the war end until the hostages are home? 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.840 If we will not agree to end the war, we 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.119 will not have the hostages. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.000 You think they can only come home through a negotiated ceasefire. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.360 Absolutely, to look at it from the point of view 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.560 of Sineua, he's a matther. I hate him as everyone 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:24.320 hates him. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.720 But do you. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:31.960 Expect him to agree to return back the hostage before 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.160 he gets what he thinks is the best for him. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.360 But doesn't that leave him in power and in control. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.040 I don't think so. I think that Number one, I 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:47.440 think that at this point, the loss of tens of 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.440 thousands of his people, the loss of all of us, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:55.520 all of his weapons, loss of almost all of his tunnels, 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.640 the infrastructure, everything that they built for years and years 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.600 and years, I think weakened him dramatically. If he's still alive, 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.439 by the way, which I'm not certain about. 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.840 You think he could be dead. Yeah, Israeli intelligence must 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:10.720 know the answer to that. 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.200 Yeah, But Israeli intelligence does know the answer, which means 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.440 that they haven't tracked him for the last few weeks, 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:21.840 and he hasn't shown any signs of living. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.440 But your confidential sources tell you that he could be dead. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.639 He could be dead, And then there has been no 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:29.840 sign of him in the past. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.880 No for sure, but he could be dead. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.080 Amazing, that's increable. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:39.200 And so I think that that is what we can 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.359 achieve in the military operation, and it doesn't bring the 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.240 hostages make so we need to do something extraorinary, And 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.040 the only thing excelery now is to end the war 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:50.800 and bring them back. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.840 What about Hezblah on the north. So they're not defeated yet, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.560 so shouldn't that military campaign continue? 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:02.840 The question is up to wear. The main thing that 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.159 we have to answer ourselves, first of all is what 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:09.439 is the strategy. So you have to think of an arrangement, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:18.440 the diplomatic process possibly that will allow them to pull 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:23.119 out away from the body, you know, to across the 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:27.479 Titania River and furthermore, and that will allow us to 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.440 bring back the people living in the north to their homes. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:37.200 We're expecting to see imminently in Israeli retaliation strike on Iran. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:38.640 Do you agree with that. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.520 Israeli retaliation in Iran is inevitable? It's as simple as 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:51.480 that Iran has attacked as well, with approximately two hundred 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.719 bai sticknissiles last week. This is not something that in 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.040 the context of the Middle East, in the framework of 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:04.720 the principles that characterism, at least not answering that will 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:09.000 be inevitably perceived by the Iranians to be a short 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.920 weakness which we trigger more ticts. On this state of visa. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.120 I'd like to ask you about the United States. We've 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.439 got an election coming up. There have been concerns in 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:24.120 the Jewish community that Kamala Harris might not be great 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:25.760 for Israel. Do you have a view on this. 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:31.359 I haven't seen any indication as of yet that she 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:33.000 will not be good for Israel. 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:38.240 Okay. In Australia, while we're on international politics, in Australia, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:43.240 the Albanesi government has been fairly hostile to Israel over 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:47.320 the past year, in particular. You know how much of 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:48.439 a portrayal is this. 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:51.160 Look. 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.320 I don't. I'm not familiar with the specifics of the 0:19:55.640 --> 0:20:01.160 Australian policy and whatever statements may have been made by 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.840 the Prime Minister or the senior ministers. Australia used to 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.440 be traditionally a great friend of. 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:07.280 His, so he was. 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:08.960 Indeed, you know all of the. 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.080 Prime ministers that I work who is and I you 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.760 were very friendly to Israel. And Joel Howard I remember him, 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.640 was a great, great friend of Israel. I think that 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:26.359 Tony Arapus, mister Turnbull was, Julia Kila. 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.760 Virtually every prime minister has been up until this one. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.040 So I hope that I hope that he will change 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:34.680 his attitude. 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.400 Almad really appreciate your time. Thank you very much. 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:38.080 Thank you. 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.760 All right, let's bring it now Israeli and p Sharon Haskell, 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.680 who's with me live in Jerusalem. Sharen, great to see 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.439 you in person. Welcome to the show. I had to 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.680 come all wait to Israel to meet you face to fay. 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.919 You know, it's wonderful to meet you, and thank you 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.479 so much for being so brave to come to Israel 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.440 during these difficult times. 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.920 Of course, and in solidarity with this great nation. Now 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:03.760 I want to ask. 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:07.200 You, on this sacred day yesterday, the anniversary of October seven, 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.679 we saw Israel come under attack in the north, south 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:12.200 and over Tel Aviv. 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:17.320 Can you tell us how hostile this was? Well, look, 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:18.280 the last. 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:19.440 Two weeks has been difficult. 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:24.600 There's direct attacks from Iran Yemen, from Syria, from Lebanon 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:28.360 and from Commas in the south. I'll tell you as 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:31.760 a mother, it's been really difficult because you know, yesterday 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:35.399 you've experienced the rockets, the interception in the middle of 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.320 Tel Aviv. You had to hide. How do you communicate 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.560 that's the children to two year old, my two year old, twin, 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:43.800 my three year old. We have to run in the 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.760 middle of the night into shelters. And I think that's 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.639 the most difficult thing. I mean, we're tough, We're really 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.399 tough people. We can endure that, but the effect that 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:57.520 it has on our children is what really difficult for 0:21:57.680 --> 0:21:58.440 us personally. 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.600 And I knew that there were constant barrage of rockets 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.600 coming from Hesbalaaren to the North, but I had no 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.880 idea the extent of it until I was here. 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.359 Because you know, I keep talking about this app that 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:09.880 you have on. 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.600 Your phone and it pings whenever there's an incoming missile, 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:17.280 and all day long it pings. The majority are from 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.640 the North. Yeah, all day, all night. The North has 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:25.240 been under attack for the last year, and the international 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.840 community has promised Israel a diplomatic solution. That's why we 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:29.880 tie our hands. 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:34.560 Towns were destroyed, city were destroyed, People are evacuated from 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:38.080 their home, tens of thousands of refugees, people were murdered. 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:41.800 Children were murdered by those rockets, and they send them 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:43.760 every single day. 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:45.880 And so enough is enough. 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.360 Just two weeks ago we said we have to operate 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.320 in order to bring back the safety. 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.719 And the security to a northern border. And that's what 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:54.040 it is. 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.960 Right now, everyone just forgets the twelve Israeli Drewor's children 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:00.359 who were killed on the soccer field. Why we should 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.640 families in Israel, you know, have to put up with this? 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.520 They need to clearly eliminate the terror threat. Sharon, I 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.200 want to ask you about Iran. Clearly, the net and 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:13.080 Yahoo government must be right now in discussions with the 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:16.760 United States about how to respond to Iran. We're expecting 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:21.800 that response in the next few days. Probably. Initially there 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.919 was discussion, and I spoke with Naftali Bennett yesterday. He 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.920 thought the strike should be on Iran's nuclear sites to 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.320 stop its nuclear development program. But now we're hearing in 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.359