1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: This is what the flux. I'm Brett and I'm Justin 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: and it's Monday, the twenty second of December Floxam. Today 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: we are unpacking the biggest banking, financial services and fintech 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: stories of the year. Twenty twenty five was a huge 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: year for finance, not just the markets moving up and 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: down thanks Trump tariffs, but also the way that money 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: actually works, which gow the RBA cut the cash rates 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: three times, major banks make them big cuts, and FinTechs 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: shake up everything from payments to crypto to strap yourselves 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: in For the three biggest stories in the finance face 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: Three lethal stories today. Juzzy boy, Oh, let's do it 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: for our first. A and Z Bank is cutting four thousand, 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: five hundred jobs and scaling back consultants in a five 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty million dollar restructure under its brand spanking 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: new CEO. 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Howe up to ten percent of the workforce. That just 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: gone like that? Know me all? Okay? 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: So A and Z is one of Australia's Big four 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: alongside CBA, NAB and Westpac. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: He's a fun factor, be man. A and Z actually 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: has a larger global workforce than both NAB and Westpack 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 1: despite being the smallest of the four. Not for long though, 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: ain Z's new CEO, Nunomatos, who started in May, has 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: begun to swing the acts yeap. He's now announced three 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: thy five hundred redundancies of ANZED staff by next September. 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: And on top of this, an Z will also cut 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: ties with a thousand consultants and contractors. 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: And it will affect teams in technology, procurement, risk and retail. 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: The Beeman. Here's the twist. These job cuts are just 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: for now because ANZ promised to maintain its head count 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: by twenty twenty seven. 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: That was a commitment it made as part of its 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: acquisition of Suncourt Bank. 35 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: So now it effectively allows A and Z to cut 36 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: jobs in the short term, so long as the number 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: of staff are re hired by twenty twenty seven. 38 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: And Jazi Boy, this is all part of an Z's 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: plan to improve its cost to income ratio. 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: So what is the key learning here. 41 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: One of the most closely watched metrics in banking is 42 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: the cost to income ratio, also known as an efficiency ratio. 43 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: It measures how much a bank spends to earn a 44 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: dollar of revenue. 45 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: The lower the ratio more efficiently the bank is operating. 46 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: For example, am Z spends roughly fifty two cents in 47 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: costs to generate one dollar of inca, so its cost 48 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: to income ratio is fifty two percent. 49 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: Whereas Combank's cost to income ratio is about forty nine percent. 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: And it's believe that Westpac and nabs cost to income 51 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: ratio is even lower than combat. 52 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: So Juzi Boy job cuts and a reduced reliance on 53 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: consultants will help lower costs and improve this ratio. 54 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: And the man cutting costs is one of the clearest 55 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: ways to lift returns as long as it doesn't also 56 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: hit sales, given up to ten percent of its workforce 57 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: will be cut now. Interestingly, be Man, Amz's new CEO 58 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: has been known to enter a new business or business 59 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: division and cut immediately. 60 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Yes, he did this at HSBC in Mexico where he 61 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: used to work, as well as when he moved to 62 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: HSBC in Europe. 63 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: And now he's taking the cost cutting playbook and bringing 64 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: it to an Z. For our second story, Mcquarie has 65 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: smashed the big four banks in July this year, snapping 66 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: up nearly forty percent of all new Australian homeowns red. 67 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: The big banks must be in even bigger shock here, 68 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: Jusie boy, what's going on? 69 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: Hey? Sir. Mcquoe was originally found in nineteen sixty nine 70 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: and it's best known for being one of Australia's leading 71 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: investment banks. 72 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: But that ain't everything it does because it also has 73 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: other arms like its asset management arm and its wealth 74 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: management arm. 75 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: And of course it's retail banking arm, which has personal 76 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: banking and mortgages the Juza boy. 77 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: Over the last few years, McQuary's retail bank has gone 78 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: hard in the mortgage space. 79 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: And clearly it's paying off. Get this. According to APRA, 80 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: Mcquarie landed nearly forty percent of all new home loan 81 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: lending in the month of July. 82 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: That means their mortgage book grew six point four times 83 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: faster than the big four banks in July. 84 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Interestingly, though, be Man, more than ninety five percent of 85 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: these loans going to mcquarie were being originated via mortgage brokers. 86 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: And clearly mcquarie is becoming a very significant threat in mortgage. 87 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Land aka the cash cow of banking. 88 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: So what is the key learning here? 89 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: Mortgages may seem boring compared to flashy investment banking, but 90 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: they're one of the most lucrative parts of the financial system. 91 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, banks love offering home loans because they're sticky, they're 92 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: long term products and they give banks reliable income for decades. 93 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: In Australia, mortgage accounts are worth over two point two 94 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: trillion dollars, which is more than sixty percent of all 95 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: bank lending. 96 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: And right now the big four control around seventy percent 97 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: of this market and it's their single biggest profit engine. 98 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: Think about it this way, by man, if the bank 99 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: makes just one percent margin on one hundred billion dollars 100 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: of mortgages, that is a billion dollars in annual revenue. 101 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: For Combank, which has a homeland book of around six 102 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars, mortgages are the core driver of its 103 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: over ten billion dollar and your pro profit and that 104 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: is why competition in this space is. 105 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: Fierce, and that's why mcquarie is leveraging an army of 106 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: mortgage brokers to funnel all leads through its front door. 107 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: For our third and final story, air Wallex has pulled 108 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: off Australia's second biggest VC raise ever with a three 109 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty million dollar raise. But it's not without 110 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: some controversy. 111 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: Juzzy boy, always a little bit of controversy around airwollxb man, 112 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: So tell me what's going on here. 113 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: So air Wallx is a payments giant founded in Melbourne 114 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. It started out facilitating cross border business payments. 115 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Since then it's expanded into cards and spend management and 116 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: other financial services too. 117 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: Get this one. It took air Wallex nine years to 118 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: hit five hundred million dollars in annual occurring revue, but 119 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: then it only took them one more year to double 120 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: that to a billion dollars in annual revenue. And now 121 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: air Wallex is writing that momentum to raise three hundred 122 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: and thirty million US dollars in a series G round 123 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: series G yep exactly. And this raise values airlex had 124 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: eight billion US dollars, which is up about a third 125 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: from only six months ago. But duzzy boy, Airwallex has 126 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: its chest out right now. It claims it didn't even 127 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: need this money from the capital raise. 128 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Now, No, no, no, it was just about the momentum 129 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: and taking advantage of the moment So what is the 130 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: key learning here? Raising capital isn't always about necessity. It's 131 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: also about buying optionality. 132 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: You see, when a company is performing well, like doubling 133 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: its revenue in twelve months, investors are very eager to 134 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: jump on board. And when investors are eager to jump 135 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: on board, it allows the company to raise money on 136 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: highly favorable terms and jazy boy. Many strategically thinking startups 137 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: go down the path of raising when they have the 138 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: momentum rather than when they actually need the money. 139 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: So for Airlex, being fully funded means they can control 140 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: the timing of their eventual initial public offering. 141 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: And they don't have to rush to list if the 142 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: market is weak. 143 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: Because stuff flox sham, they were the three biggest banking, 144 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: financial services and inintech stories of twenty twenty five. Join 145 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: us on Wednesday for a deep dive and recap into 146 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: one of the hottest topics of twenty twenty five, artificial intelligence. 147 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and we'll see you on Wednesday.