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Speaker 1: some anti social problems down there that need addressing, if

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Speaker 1: they haven't been as yet. Philip Dunneley from the wonderful

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Speaker 1: Mayfair Bakery. I reckon, I've been to the bakery many

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Speaker 1: times over fifty sixty years, Philip, but still they're still trading.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Come morning, Matte.

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Speaker 1: How are you all right? Thank you? What's been happening?

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Speaker 1: Talk us through the issues.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a complex place, it's a growing place,

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Speaker 1: Why why is that? What's gone wrong?

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Speaker 2: I think there's I think there's a few issues and

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Speaker 2: it could be very vast and trying to pin it

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Speaker 2: sort of people sleeping raft and as well as some

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Speaker 2: doing that, there there's been a lot of like problems

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Speaker 1: Talk us about those what's been happening.

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Speaker 2: There's been a there's been a lot of edgy social

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Speaker 2: behavior in terms of people loitering, lots of depths where

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Speaker 1: Basically people defcated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well and not shy about it either. The other morning,

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Speaker 2: not it's not a hidden problem. It's very evident and

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Speaker 2: save Pole beans fantastic. We've had we've had one person

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So okay that that is just off putting to hear,

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Speaker 2: We don't, and I you know, internally we try and

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Speaker 2: So a lot of things we deal with, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed you had a bike style them, I understand

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So my motorbike got stolen in November. Luckily we've

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Speaker 2: I rocked up at about six and between us taking

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Speaker 1: What are customers, I'm sure they must notice all this.

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Speaker 2: Well, they they do, which is which is really nice

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they do, Philip, Look on the whole,

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Speaker 2: Ten, Oh well, one to ten. Look going back for

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Speaker 3: Is drunkenness still a problem, not really as much Like

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Speaker 1: Good on you, Philip, appreciate your time today. Thank you

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Speaker 1: and you're honesty.

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Speaker 2: No worries anytime, matt Philip.

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Speaker 1: Donnelly there from the wonderful Mayfair Bakery in Saint Vincent Street,

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Speaker 1: and we're worth a stop if you're driving through. Scott

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning, Matthew.

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Speaker 1: Clearly some problems down there. You're obviously on top of them.

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Speaker 1: You're aware of them. I know that, and as Philip

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that really is our job, Matthew, is to

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Speaker 4: provide that community safety and community reassurance. Yes, we are

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Speaker 1: What happened in February March. Why did it spike?

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Speaker 1: All right, So we've got people sleeping, rough people who

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Speaker 4: No, and it's very much the case that it's not

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Speaker 4: It's always on foot, Matthew. We have what are called

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Speaker 1: You reckon you're on top of it? There that the

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Matthew. We've seen a reduction since that peak period

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Speaker 4: We're working with the agencies to provide that support for

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Speaker 4: some resources in for those periods. We have seen a reduction,

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Speaker 4: Which is why our policing effort is not to sus math.

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Speaker 1: All just while I've got you in your role as

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Speaker 4: Matthew I in terms of saying this announcement has been made,

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Speaker 4: provided through a number of ways. Certainly, policing is very

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Speaker 1: What's digital mean? So is that submitting an accident report

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Speaker 4: There's some stuff you can't do online. So it's expanding

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see what it ends up. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Clear bone Clear, good morning. I'm sure you've been listening.

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Speaker 5: Oh look, it's it's not really the title of their job.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, you shouldn't have to put up with this. Ratepayers

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Speaker 5: No, we definitely don't want people hearing saying those words

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Speaker 5: But I also noticed, Matthew, that you've mentioned you'll be

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Speaker 1: Also, all right, we're about to hear from a trade

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Speaker 1: The worst is behind the port. Now in terms of this,

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Speaker 5: We're not hiding away from the facts that it's all

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Speaker 1: Absolutely clear. Bye, Thank you for your time. Thank Mayor

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Speaker 1: of Port Adelaide, Enfield Rose Darling, port Adelaide's Citizen of

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Speaker 1: the Year. I think a few years ago runs a

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Speaker 6: Morning, welcome, good morning, Matthew.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about Chats.

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Speaker 6: We run a free breakfast every Friday morning. We serve

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Speaker 6: I'm just trying to help.

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Speaker 6: It's a good three course cook breakfast. They love it

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Speaker 6: more sympathetic. I personally have never had any trouble with

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Speaker 6: Well, I said, I worked in the port for thirty

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Speaker 6: And then it just grew from there. So we started

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Speaker 1: a good positive story. If people want more info, you've

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Speaker 6: Yeah, chat community helping together us think and we also

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Speaker 6: There's just nothing for them, and that's sad. It's not

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Speaker 6: lot more has to be put into a drug and

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Speaker 6: good job as much as they can do. But I

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Speaker 6: agree with Claire that we probably will see this issue

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Speaker 6: happen again next February March. If arrangement, if something doesn't change.

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Speaker 1: What would you what do you think that something is?

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Speaker 1: What is it that makes people behave better?

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Speaker 6: Well, you can't have a group come down to Port

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Speaker 6: it's not and it's not good for them chat to sleep.

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Speaker 1: In the park out Yeah, that's absolutely right. Rose, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for your time this morning. Thanks for having the

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