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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Pit Talk, brought to you by Shannon's.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, Lando Norris resumes the championship lead with

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Speaker 1: the season's largest victory margin at the Mexico City Grand Prix.

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Speaker 1: But what's happened to Oscar Piastre's pace after slipping one

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Speaker 1: point off the title lead. My name is Michael Lamonato.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have your company and the company of

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Speaker 1: my co host. He knows it's unsportsmanlike to boo a driver, unless,

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Speaker 1: of course, you're English at the British Grand Prix and

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Speaker 1: the driver, as maximustappened, it's Matt Haydon.

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Speaker 2: Any more of this, Michael Lamonato, I might start booing

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Speaker 2: you for your intros, but yes, thank you for having

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Speaker 2: me as always, and yes, boo gate. Could you have

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Speaker 2: to stick the word gate on the end of any controversy,

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Speaker 2: don't you? It was alive and well in Mexico, much

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Speaker 2: to the surprise of Lando Norris and the Sky Sports

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Speaker 2: commentary team, but perhaps not so maybe a bit more

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Speaker 2: obvious for the rest of the world, but that's something

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Speaker 2: we can cover in the next three minutes or so.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the boos, why you know, I want to address

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Speaker 1: the boes immediately, because let's addressed to it. Can't see

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Speaker 1: where else we're going to take it other than simply

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Speaker 1: addressing and moving on. And I doff my cap if

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Speaker 1: one does such a thing to Fast mag which I

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Speaker 1: believe is a Mexican publication, or at least.

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Speaker 2: You doff your sombrero, is what you're telling me.

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Speaker 1: Oh, doff my sombrero? Tremendous. Who had an answer for

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Speaker 1: the booing? In fact, they're representative Carlos Yealife. I hope

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Speaker 1: I pronounce that correctly, had quite the conversation with Landon

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Speaker 1: Norris in the post race pest conference, revealing that his

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Speaker 1: magazine had run a poll in Mexico, I guess, and

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Speaker 1: has suggested the booing is because the sentiment of the

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Speaker 1: Mexican viewing public is unhappiness about the team orders from

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Speaker 1: Monza about a month and a half ago after that

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Speaker 1: slow pit stop which Lando Norris gott second place back

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Speaker 1: following the Papaya rules, and as a result, he is

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Speaker 1: now out of favor among the Mexican public.

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Speaker 2: Mexico doesn't like pitstop calam redressing. That's what we've learned

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Speaker 2: from this particular press conference. Who would have known that

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Speaker 2: would have been the thing that set the entire crowd off.

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Speaker 2: But I've got to admit I was, you know, when

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Speaker 2: I found out why that was, I thought, okay, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I was a little bit taken aback that I thought,

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Speaker 2: why now, because it feels like it was old news

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Speaker 2: to a degree. But yeah, they've they've been saving that

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Speaker 2: one up for Lando, just in case he happened to

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Speaker 2: win the Grand Prix. Because normally the only thing that

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Speaker 2: will fire the Mexican crowd up massively is whether you've

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Speaker 2: done something wrong with Sergeia Perez or you know, you

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Speaker 2: haven't got your allocation of kitcast as you've walked in

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Speaker 2: the door. It could be something along those lines. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: the crowd not pleased, but the reason they were not

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Speaker 2: pleased very interesting. But I was also not pleased about

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Speaker 2: the Monza pit stop reddressing. So maybe I should have

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Speaker 2: joined it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, maybe you should have bought your tickets and

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Speaker 1: gone to boo with the rest of them at the stadium.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we know now, Yes, as we're told on

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Speaker 2: the broadcast, the British don't boo, but they do que.

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Speaker 2: So perhaps there's some sort of some sort of poetry

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Speaker 2: in all of.

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Speaker 1: This, and boy do they Lando Norris, He's been queuing

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Speaker 1: for fifteen rounds to take the championship lead, and here

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Speaker 1: he is at the front of the queue, one point

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Speaker 1: ahead of Oscar Piastre, and he's looking forward to doing

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Speaker 1: whatever British people do after they complete the queueing four

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Speaker 1: rounds to go one point in it. The momentum feels

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Speaker 1: like it's with Lando Norris. But before we look at

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Speaker 1: how he's built this comeback, what kind of form he's in,

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Speaker 1: of course, we should probably start with Oscar Piastre, the

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Speaker 1: local hope who's lost that title lead, who had controlled

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Speaker 1: well the entire middle part of the campaign more than

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Speaker 1: just the middle most of the campaign up to this point,

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Speaker 1: and he has been off pace and this was his

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Speaker 1: other than Nazerbaijan. I guess we don't know exactly what

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Speaker 1: his pace was there because he kept crashing, but this

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Speaker 1: felt like he's least competitive, perhaps is a better way

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Speaker 1: to say it. Round of this season he was all

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Speaker 1: Of course, traffic tells us a little bit about that,

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Speaker 1: but nonetheless it's illustrative of drivers in I think it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say different leagues this weekend and is now

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Speaker 1: the time map that we should begin to panic about

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Speaker 1: Oscar Piastri's title hopes.

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Speaker 2: Panic's a little strong still because I keep coming back

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Speaker 2: to this. If you'd said to Oscar Piastre at the

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Speaker 2: four rounds to go, he'd probably bought your arm off.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's an amazing opportunity to win a first

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Speaker 2: world championship if you say, look, you're a point off

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Speaker 2: the serious lead with four rounds to go. But of

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Speaker 2: course that doesn't allow for the context of everything that's

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Speaker 2: come before. And you mentioned that forty two second number

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Speaker 2: that was painful. Here's another set of numbers. It's a

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Speaker 2: little bit painful. Since the Lando Norris inverted commas robbed

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Speaker 2: zanvut race, Pastre had him beat. Anyway, since that particular race,

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Speaker 2: it's Norris eighty two points, Piastrec forty seven points. And

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Speaker 2: perhaps more interestingly, Maxvstappen one hundred and sixteen points in

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Speaker 2: that particular time frame. So this has been sort of

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Speaker 2: the death by thousand cutsie of Roscar Piastre. We've seen

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Speaker 2: this coming for a little while. I think, what's alarming

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Speaker 2: if we're going to use the word panic in lower case,

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Speaker 2: if we're going to be a little bit alarmed here

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Speaker 2: there's a trend. It's going in a particular direction, and

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Speaker 2: it's not a direction that you would like, because every

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Speaker 2: the one that preceded it. And I think the disturbing

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Speaker 2: thing for this weekend was that there's been other weekends

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Speaker 2: or we've been like, that's all right, he's got time

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Speaker 2: to get this back on track and at least limit

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Speaker 2: the damage. There wasn't at any point of this entire

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Speaker 2: to be a way out this time for Piastre And okay,

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Speaker 2: yes he's relinquished the series lead. It's kind of been

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Speaker 2: in play since the Azerbaijan DNF. But you look back

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Speaker 2: could look at that as being a little glass half

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Speaker 2: of not very much. Because Norris obviously despondent after zanfor

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Speaker 2: Can he redress this downward arc that he's been on.

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Speaker 2: We know that there's probably three drivers, unless you want

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Speaker 2: to look at say something like Las Vegas, it's a

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Speaker 2: So he's right there where he would have liked to

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Speaker 2: it is a little bit alarming, just the trend of

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but it felt to me

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Speaker 2: like there was no real weight out of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely felt more. He felt more absent than

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Speaker 1: there felt like there was a little bit of a flicker,

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Speaker 1: It still felt pretty punchy. He felt like he was

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Speaker 1: more faded and qualifying from there on, but it felt

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Speaker 1: like there was something there in Mexico. It never really

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Speaker 1: to Andrea Steller because he has just such a great

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Speaker 1: down in fact to circuit characteristics. He says it's more

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Speaker 1: explainable than simply a form slump, as it increasingly feels

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Speaker 1: like considering it's been now, what is that five races

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Speaker 1: by Landon Norris, the most of any point this year

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Speaker 1: that is that both are really quick, low grip and

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Speaker 1: this has been a weakness of Oscar Piastres throughout his career,

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Speaker 1: but continues to be this year. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: said before Matt has very few weaknesses remaining. He's wanted

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Speaker 1: a lot of the tracks that were his weak tracks

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Speaker 1: Mexico is almost sort of the ultimate low grip track

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Speaker 1: That is just the way it is. Sunday also particularly

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Speaker 1: But why if he's going to ever feel the pressure,

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Speaker 1: why would he have started feeling it in let's say Azerbaijan,

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Speaker 1: if he came out and was wobbly for the rest

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Speaker 1: able to say, well, you know, that's the pressure, But

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Speaker 1: why would he felt it up to this point? I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the low grip services part of these.

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Speaker 2: more than I have. It's a it's an unusual setting.

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Speaker 2: Everything about it. It's not really like anywhere else. There's

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Speaker 2: it's either one of those tracks that guys either get

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Speaker 2: And you see guys that have very very good records

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Speaker 2: here and guys that just can't race here at all.

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Speaker 2: And you know, look the way Andrea Stella tries to

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Speaker 2: very technically explain these sorts of things. There's got to

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Speaker 2: be some mirror in that. But for me, the more

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Speaker 2: disturbing thing was I've always had the faith in his

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Speaker 2: these difficulties he's had year on year track to track

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Speaker 2: that's interesting for me is that you know, these drivers

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Speaker 2: Hamilton and falling way back down the field. It looked

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Speaker 2: pretty dire. It really looked like, oh, this will be

433
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Speaker 2: the race that we look back at and he's finished

434
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Speaker 2: a pretty ordinary seventh or something, and then maybe we

435
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Speaker 2: can just extinguish this flame of a potential championship for him.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he got back to finish in third

437
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Speaker 2: place and if fifteen points is the worst it's going

438
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Speaker 2: to get for the rest of the season, this felt

439
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Speaker 2: like a day where he could have lost a hell

440
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Speaker 2: of a lot more and really changed the way these

441
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Speaker 2: last four rounds went. It was a brilliant save. His

442
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Speaker 2: second stin was so good, my goodness, and to me,

443
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Speaker 2: the gap between him and whoever the second best driver

444
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Speaker 2: is in Formula one has widened this year because he's

445
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Speaker 2: been absolutely superb in the second half of the season.

446
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Speaker 2: A really really good save. Yeah, could have had three

447
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Speaker 2: more points, had have been another green flag lap at

448
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Speaker 2: the end, but if some barts. But in the circumstances

449
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Speaker 2: of given what there was to lose on a day

450
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Speaker 2: like this where things clearly work going particularly well, he

451
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Speaker 2: wasn't very happy with the car through Friday and Saturday,

452
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Speaker 2: a really really good save. I still think he's super

453
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Speaker 2: threatening because you look at what's coming up, and we'll

454
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Speaker 2: talk about that in a minute. With the tracks coming up,

455
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Speaker 2: and I just can't understate he's been there and he

456
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Speaker 2: knows what it takes in these situations. That's what makes

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Speaker 2: him way more dangerous than any other driver that might

458
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Speaker 2: be thirty six points off the seriously at this at

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Speaker 2: this time. The fact that he's been there and done

460
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Speaker 2: it and knows exactly what's required makes him so formidable.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he's going to have a massive say in

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Speaker 2: what happens through these last four rounds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's no denying that. You just can't

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Speaker 1: discant him especially, and I advise everyone to keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on the radar ganprit a couple of weeks because

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Speaker 1: if there's rain, I don't think there's a single driver

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Speaker 1: who would say anything other than that will be acts

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Speaker 1: for staff and victory, and considering as well how the

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Speaker 1: McLaren drivers did in the wet at that track last year,

470
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Speaker 1: could present a reasonably large point swing as well to

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Speaker 1: go that way. But that's still a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: from now. Let's go before we move on to the

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Speaker 1: forecast for the rest of the season to Move of

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Speaker 1: the Week, brought to you by Shannon's. There was non

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Speaker 1: stop racing this weekend, Matt. In fact, I don't feel

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Speaker 1: sufficiently slept despite the friendly times over to the Grand

477
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Speaker 1: Prix this weekend, considering we had all three of our

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Speaker 1: categories on Formula one of course in Mexico City, MOTORJP

479
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Speaker 1: in Malaysia, and on the Gold Coast it was the supercars,

480
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Speaker 1: so plenty of overtakes to choose from where are you

481
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Speaker 1: going to take us?

482
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Speaker 2: And there are a million and one things happening in Mexico,

483
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Speaker 2: it's really hard to try and put them in some

484
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Speaker 2: sort of hierarchy. I'm going to go with the slight

485
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Speaker 2: deviation to Move of the Week. I know that's unlike

486
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Speaker 2: me in a specificlar podcast, but I'm more calling at

487
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Speaker 2: first quarter of the week because I'm going to reference

488
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Speaker 2: Oli Bahman here, the man from Chelmsford. We have to

489
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Speaker 2: tick that box. Incidentally, by the way, Chelmsford it's only

490
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Speaker 2: about twenty odd miles from where I was born, so

491
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Speaker 2: maybe he's Violibam and not just our very good Yeah

492
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Speaker 2: who knew? But look, you know from ninth on the grid.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he got up to six that turned

494
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Speaker 2: one when there was all the nonsense going on with

495
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Speaker 2: Leclaire and for Stappen and what have you. That was

496
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Speaker 2: what set him up so beautifully for this run to

497
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Speaker 2: a career best fourth place and fourth that it didn't

498
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Speaker 2: feel fluky or he didn't inherit something. It was really

499
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Speaker 2: really coolly taken. And you look at how many experienced

500
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Speaker 2: he is. I mean, he came into this weekend eighteenth

501
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Speaker 2: in the World Championship, had scored four points in the

502
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Speaker 2: previous four rounds and okay, yeah, the late race virtual

503
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Speaker 2: safety car we talked about it before. That probably saved

504
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Speaker 2: him from losing a spot to Oscar Piastre. But still,

505
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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at his race. He soaked up

506
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Speaker 2: pressure from Max Forstappen, he soaked up pressure from two Mercedes,

507
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Speaker 2: and then he had Piastre all over him late the

508
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Speaker 2: first lap that he had unlocked the ability to be

509
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Speaker 2: able to have a race like that, and he executed

510
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Speaker 2: it and finished fourth. So I'm so moves of the

511
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Speaker 2: week to do what he needed to do on the

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Speaker 2: first lap of this particular race. It set the entire

513
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Speaker 2: race up and then he converted on that so well

514
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Speaker 2: played my oliben.

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Speaker 1: I like it a lot. I do like it a lot.

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Speaker 1: It was a great race by him. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it was a real you know, in a season that's

518
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Speaker 1: been quite inconsistent for him and for his team. To

519
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Speaker 1: be fair, it's not all been about him. I thought

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Speaker 1: this was the kind of result that just reminded you.

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Speaker 1: This is why Ferrari's keen on.

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Speaker 2: Him, as as.

523
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Speaker 1: Is why team boss Ayakamatsu was so effusive in praising

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Speaker 1: him last year during all of his various practice appearances

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Speaker 1: and those two Grand Prix. It was just too I

526
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Speaker 1: think for him, wasn't it plus that one? But Ferrari

527
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Speaker 1: it kind of demonstrated that, And it's now. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at some of the statistics. He's now just crept

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Speaker 1: ahead in all the key metrics of vestbarnoch On, including

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Speaker 1: on the championship table, as you mentioned just before. Suddenly

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Speaker 1: it feels like there's a little little power shift going

532
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Speaker 1: on there, or potential one anyway, setting himself up one

533
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Speaker 1: potentially for next season. So I like that. Pick a couple.

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Speaker 1: A couple came to my mind for this race. I

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Speaker 1: was very tempted to give it to Charlotte Claire for

536
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Speaker 1: cutting the first corner and gaining or holding second place

537
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Speaker 1: as a result.

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Speaker 2: I love the first quarter at Mexico. It's just choose

539
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Speaker 2: your own adventure pretty.

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Speaker 1: Much, is it. And at some point the stewards must

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Speaker 1: look at like a screenshot of that first corner, going no,

542
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to look at this, it's not worth it,

543
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Speaker 1: not worth the pain. Very tempered to give it to that,

544
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Speaker 1: but I'm going to give it, and I'm going to

545
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Speaker 1: give any Oscar Piastri fans who are despondent this week

546
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Speaker 1: a little bit of hope because I really liked his

547
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Speaker 1: move on George Russell on lap sixty I think it

548
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Speaker 1: was it was the fifth was ended up being where

549
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Speaker 1: he finished for fifth place. Just this really high risk

550
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Speaker 1: on a racing which he was aggressive but never really

551
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Speaker 1: high risk. This high risk moved through turn four, five, six,

552
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Speaker 1: coming exactly which of those I think was turned five

553
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Speaker 1: just to get underneath him, catching him a bit so

554
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Speaker 1: by surprise, really risking contact there but got him in

555
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Speaker 1: that ended up being his finishing position. Again. I think

556
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Speaker 1: that also put him in a place to potentially grab

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Speaker 1: fourth had the VC not intervened at the end, or

558
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Speaker 1: at least we would have been battling for another lap

559
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Speaker 1: or two. But just thought that was a really great

560
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Speaker 1: move and must have been very satisfying as well, considering

561
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Speaker 1: how many laps he's spent stuck behind one or the

562
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Speaker 1: other Mercedes. Oh, to finally not see any in front

563
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Speaker 1: of him must have been very satisfying.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of funny and that it was vintage Piastre

565
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Speaker 2: overtaking in a way, And it was also a bit

566
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Speaker 2: nostalgic because like, oh, I remember this, this is great,

567
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Speaker 2: really impressive, really decisive, wasn't out of control, crossed up

568
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Speaker 2: doing anything completely ridiculous, really enjoyed it. Really good nomination

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Speaker 2: by you, And yeah, it shows you, even on a

570
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Speaker 2: not a particularly good day, that it's still in there

571
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Speaker 2: and there's still plenty to look forward to with him.

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Speaker 1: Let's change tack a little bit now and look forward

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Speaker 1: to the rest of this season. I really like the

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Speaker 1: way you put it, mat that we've got a four

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Speaker 1: round world championship, because that's what it feels like at

576
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Speaker 1: the front. You know, depending on how terrible or not

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Speaker 1: you want to be towards Maxis stap and you could

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Speaker 1: say thirty six points thirty five points is his handicap

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Speaker 1: in the steampionship tattle, and he could still close it

580
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Speaker 1: from there. Oscar Piastri just one point off. That's as

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Speaker 1: good as even really considering it's an uneven number between

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Speaker 1: first and second in terms of the points paid. We've

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Speaker 1: got four rounds left, and as is the way in

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Speaker 1: this later part of the season, all the races are

585
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Speaker 1: really quite different. They're all a little bit wacky, they

586
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Speaker 1: all bring a little bit of their own character to it.

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Speaker 1: It is the real wild card part of the season,

588
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Speaker 1: I think, and that's what makes a close championship battle

589
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Speaker 1: all the more unpredictable. Next up will be the South

590
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Speaker 1: Palo Grand Prix in a couple of weeks. A couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks after that will be Las Vegas, and that's

592
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Speaker 1: the first of a triple header, would you believe it?

593
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Speaker 1: With geographical pair cutter only as sure it's like eighteen

594
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Speaker 1: thousand kilometers away or something like that. And then Abu

595
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Speaker 1: Dhabi of course, to close the season, as is now tradition,

596
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Speaker 1: a lot riding obviously on all of these races. Considering

597
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Speaker 1: the closeness of the championship, let's start with Brazil, though

598
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Speaker 1: we're away from at least until we get to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: But that's a bit of a differ kettle fish from

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Speaker 1: these low grip circuits that seem to trouble Piastre so much.

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Speaker 1: For me, I think he has to win either Brazil

602
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Speaker 1: or Cutter. I think I don't think there's a way

603
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Speaker 1: for him to get to the title without winning at

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Speaker 1: least one of those. Historically, there's not not much history

605
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Speaker 1: with Piastre either way. He's only in his third seasons.

606
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Speaker 1: There's only so much precedent we can talk about in

607
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Speaker 1: any of these. But Brazil hasn't really been a highlight

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Speaker 1: race for him, has it?

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Speaker 2: No? And Brazil, you know we're setting this up before

610
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Speaker 2: there's four rounds. Verstapen's thirty six points behind and so

611
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Speaker 2: you're going well, nine points around on average. Is not

612
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Speaker 2: that much, really, is it? But to my mind, the

613
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Speaker 2: Vestapan candidacy, candidacy for this easy for me to say

614
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Speaker 2: is not. It doesn't wholly depend on what happens in Interlagos.

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Speaker 2: But I think if you look at the remaining tracks

616
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Speaker 2: on the calendar, this is the one where I feel

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Speaker 2: that Vastapan's pedigree and performance here in the past offers

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Speaker 2: him the potential biggest advantage over the two McLaren's. He's

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Speaker 2: been so good here in the past, doesn't matter about

620
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Speaker 2: the weather, and you know there will be whether Interlagos.

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Speaker 2: It's just an absolute given the fact that you've also

622
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Speaker 2: got a sprint race there extra points. So this feels

623
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Speaker 2: like a big Verstapan move weekend in prospect because I

624
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Speaker 2: feel that his advantage over the McLaren's at this track

625
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: is potentially larger than the advantage that any of the

626
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Speaker 2: others will have over the others at any of the

627
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Speaker 2: remaining tracks. This where Brazil feels so important. It's really

628
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Speaker 2: funny with Brazil, like pre this is sort of probably

629
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Speaker 2: predating your involvement in F one. Brazil was always super

630
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Speaker 2: early in the season. It was always like round two,

631
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Speaker 2: Round three. I think it opened the season a couple

632
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Speaker 2: of times before Melbourne came along, and so it used

633
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Speaker 2: to be a bit of a bla grand PERI to

634
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Speaker 2: be honest. To quote the great Phil Brannigan used to

635
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: call it the race around the garbage dump back in

636
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Speaker 2: the day. He used to I always enjoy that. I

637
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Speaker 2: reminded him of it every time I see him, by

638
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: the way, But now that it's become later in the season,

639
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: the weather's a little more volatile. It feels to me

640
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Speaker 2: it's the one track you can routinely be guaranteed to

641
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Speaker 2: have a good sprint, because most sprints are just like,

642
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: there's always good sprints here. You know, you think it's

643
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Speaker 2: the big charge Lewis Hamilton had back in what was

644
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Speaker 2: twenty one. Things happen here at this weekend, they always do,

645
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Speaker 2: but while there's all this chaos going on, it feels

646
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Speaker 2: like a weekend wherever staff and historically has sort of

647
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: sailed serenely along to get very very big result. And

648
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: you look at some of the winds he's had here,

649
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: he's made that some of the years here, he's made

650
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: the rest of the field look really really but quite

651
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: bad to be honest, because he's dominated to such a degree.

652
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: This is so pivotal this one to me, because this

653
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: feels like if he's going to take a big chunk

654
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: out of now Norris as the leader, it feels like

655
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: this will be the weekend that does it. And then

656
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: those footsteps behind Norris and Piastri get ever louder. If

657
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: we leave into Largos and you look at the extra

658
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: points for the sprint and say the margin is suddenly

659
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: seventeen points or something along those. If it's less than

660
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Speaker 2: twenty points, for example, which is completely believable. If it's

661
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: less than twenty, then look out, because I feel that

662
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: he will firm massively in the odds to get to

663
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 2: the World Championship. Interlagos is the biggest weekend for all

664
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: the rest of them. For Verstappen in and of itself

665
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: and also what it means to McLaren. I think it's

666
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: going to be a super pivotal weekend.

667
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we don't have to be thinking about

668
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: the sprint format. It was twenty three points he took

669
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: out of the championship lead in Austin, and he dominated

670
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: that weekend from start to finish. But a driver who

671
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: gets on a roll and we shouldn't forget the stapp

672
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: and I think is the sort of king of sprints,

673
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: speed king as they used to call it, speaking thankfully

674
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: no longer. I don't believe so anyway, for a reason

675
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: because he's really great at just getting in the car

676
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: and finding that sweet spot on red Bull Racing is

677
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: back in that zone now as well, where the car

678
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: is roughly where it needs to be on Friday when

679
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: you get that one practice session, so if he starts well,

680
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: he can finish well on a sprint weekend. I think

681
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing, and I mean you take another twenty

682
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: three points out of this advantage and it's on like

683
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: I would always declare the title favorite at that point.

684
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: So I think that that's a really good one and

685
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: we move on to Las Vegas, which now then is

686
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: another low grip circuit for a completely different reason. Again,

687
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: it's usually quite cold considering the start time of the race,

688
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: although everything's a little bit earlier this year, it has

689
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: been in the past a little bit more reasonable if

690
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: you happen to be a local or race going person

691
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. So good news for you, find news

692
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: for Australian time zone as well, but I'm likely to

693
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: be good news for McLaren at track that the team

694
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: has never really been very good at. In the first year,

695
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: as could be, Astrit did have a pretty reasonable race there.

696
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: It was undone by a safety car in the end,

697
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: but did have good pace in the race. But in

698
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: general it's been quite a week McLaren track. I actually

699
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: think that off the back of Brazil, particularly if the

700
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: staffan builds up a momentum. Again, this is the danger

701
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: race for McLaren's driver's title hopes, I think, rather than

702
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: one or the other driver.

703
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd agree with that. If the four circuits are left,

704
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: this is the one that shapes as their weakest and

705
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: there's a world and that you could absolutely see. I mean,

706
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: all three of them could be within fifteen points after Vegas.

707
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem that doesn't seem out of the realms

708
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: at all. Hopefully no two am FP two sessions like

709
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: the famous first time we went to Las Vegas, which

710
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: is utterly ridiculous. There was someone that was working with

711
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: one of the teams at the time that's admitted to

712
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: having a little bit of a nap in the ninety

713
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: minute FP two session as the cars were barreling around

714
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: at quarter to three in the morning or whatever time

715
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 2: it was. But of the four tracks left, this feels

716
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: like McLaren's weakest one. Now the asterisk with this is

717
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't feel it's necessarily going to be red Bull's

718
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: strongest one because we've seen Mercedes has been very strong

719
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: here in the past. If any other team is going

720
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: to muscle in for a potential win through these last

721
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: four rounds. It feels like Vegas would be the one

722
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: where that would happen, simply because we know that Mercedes

723
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: is particularly good in the cold. They're very good there

724
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: last year. I don't see any reason why that trait

725
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't come up again. And we know that Mercedes doesn't

726
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: have consistent race winning pace, but they've also won a

727
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: couple of Grand Prix this year where there's been certain

728
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: circumstances that have played to them. So it shapes to

729
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: me is the track where someone other than Red Bull

730
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: and McLaren win. But it also shapes shapes out to

731
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: me as the track where McClaren might be the weakest

732
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: over the last four. So you talked about the historical president.

733
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: I like the fact of these four races, the order

734
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: of the four of them is really interesting to me

735
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: because you know what we've just talked about with Brazil

736
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: and Las Vegas. The fact that they're the next two

737
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: in that particular order, it's almost like someone's writing the script.

738
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: Michael, don't make it close. I agree with that one

739
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: as well. I think Vegas's going to be a very

740
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: interesting round. It's proved to be an entertaining one as well.

741
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Over in the past two years, contrary to some expectations,

742
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: including my own, to be totally honest with you, Kata

743
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: comes next, and this I'm finding really hard to read

744
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: because on paper it should be all about McLaren. Obviously

745
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: in the first year, extremely competitive and though that was

746
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: in an absolute domination era from Maxwistappen, So there's not

747
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: really any hope of victory except in the sprint, which

748
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: was for Osco Piastre last year. Though okay pstre won

749
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: the sprint, but in the Grand Prix was maxwis stappin

750
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: Norris was competitive. It seems like it could be a

751
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: real close contest because the guide has changed since last year,

752
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: but the form guard at the moment suggests both teams

753
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: are extremely close.

754
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: Again, is this just the hardest Grand Prix on the

755
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: calendar to get a feel and a read on. I

756
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: always feel that what's happened in there in the past,

757
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: and it's a really hard one to get your head

758
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: around it. We're talking about this off air before. It's

759
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: the nature of the circuit layout there and that it

760
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: feels like the same corner twelve times over through the

761
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: course of the lap because of the particular track layout,

762
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: and I look at this track a lot more from

763
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: my two wheel experience as a motor GP circuit, and

764
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: all my references are completely out when it comes to

765
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: cars because they absolutely annihilate these medium and high speed

766
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: corners there, so it's not really like anywhere else on

767
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: the calendar. It's got the big long straight obviously, but

768
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: there's no real out of there any slow corners at

769
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: this circuit, so that's going to be interesting. The heat,

770
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: while not as extreme as it was in the year

771
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: where everyone was passing out, we're doing mandatory tire stints.

772
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: That was the survival of the fittest that year, so

773
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 2: that's not going to be as much of a factor.

774
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: But for Stappen's raced well here having the sprint. Whether

775
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: that suits Red Bull or I don't know, but his

776
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: race paces Grand Prix paced for Staff and he has

777
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: always been really, really good. But of the four tracks

778
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: that are remaining, this is the one that's the biggest

779
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: unknown for me because I don't think we have much

780
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: data really to draw upon, and the data is a

781
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: little bit confusing. Quite frankly, I'm really struggling to nail

782
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: my sort of anything to the mast here as to

783
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: where I think this one's going to go. I don't

784
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: know whether you feel the same.

785
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: No, I completely agree. It doesn't feel like the form

786
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: guide is established enough for this circuit. Maybe it's because

787
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: of that funny break we had between its first race

788
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one that everyone forgets, like a race

789
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: we just had to get through, and then the somewhat

790
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: less forgettable races of the last couple of years. But

791
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel solid, and I think that's ally to

792
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: the fact that even this year, it's hard to know

793
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: for sure where that balance of power sits between Red

794
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: Bull Racing and McLaren. That the clearly very closely matched,

795
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: but I think the domination of McLaren this weekend races

796
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: some questions. It's gonna be very interesting to see where

797
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: we are by the time we get there, and then

798
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: of course we get to the Abu Dhabi finale, which

799
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: should be a McLaren circuit. Lando want it pretty comfortably

800
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: last year, although Oscar Piastre was tipped into a spin

801
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: on the very first lap, so it's hard to know

802
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: if he could have made a challenge of it. But

803
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: I feel like the characteristics of this track, having learned

804
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: what we have about Red bull racing. This second part

805
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: of the year is perhaps less obviously nailed on for

806
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: McLaren than we would have thought earlier in the year.

807
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: I know that the similarity is it's pretty tenuous to

808
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: liken it to Austin, but I think there's a similar

809
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: bread of corner profiles. Yea, as there is an Austin.

810
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: And then the question is how much did the conditions

811
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: make help Maxwist happen to dominate there? How much did

812
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: Charlotte Claire being in second head of land and or

813
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: has helped maxwistappen to dominate there. I feel like that

814
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: one actually could be a little bit more open, probably

815
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: still advantage McLaren, but a little bit more open, which

816
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: might be ideal depending on what the points picture is arriving.

817
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: There, let's hope say, because God knows, we've sat through

818
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: some god awful boring Abbidavid Grand Prix's in our time.

819
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: But the thing about Austin's interesting because the corner profile,

820
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: if not the configuration of them, but there are some

821
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: similar corner profiles there for this last round. The other

822
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: factory in all of this, we're taking all of these circuits.

823
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: Is not a criticism of you and I Michael, I'm

824
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 2: just merely making a point. We're taking all of these

825
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: circuits and discussing them one after the other based on

826
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: where the points are. Right now, what if we're in

827
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: a situation where McLaren's going to have the numerical advantage

828
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: in this title fight, if it comes down to the

829
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: three of them, what are we going to learn about

830
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: the way McLaren operates if it's clearly in the team's

831
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: best interest to have one or the other drivers perhaps

832
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: be a bit of a stone and for Stap and

833
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: shu At Avid Dhabi, if this thing is actually on

834
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 2: as opposed to it just being a straight fight between

835
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: the McLaren drivers, that's the biggest unknown for me because

836
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: the outline that we've just put forward in these past

837
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: few rounds to me is bringing for stapphen Moore into

838
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: the title fight that he actually is. Currently we're talking

839
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: about Brazil and we're talking about Qatar, and we're finding

840
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: reasons to think of ways that for Stappa could keep

841
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: chipping into this points deficit. So what are we going

842
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: to get by the time we get to Avidhaby And

843
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: then where does this two versus one fighting for a

844
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: world championship if it's live at that point, where does

845
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: that factor into things. I'm all for anything that makes

846
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: Aberdabi more interesting than it is, because it's starting off

847
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: a fairly low base from me. But we've had over

848
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: the years that we've been there, we've had a lot

849
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: of not particularly good races, and we've had some of

850
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: the most memorable races in Formula one history. You remember

851
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 2: the Rosberg Hamilton title fight and just the absolute bastardry

852
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: that was going on that night. That was fantastic TV.

853
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: And yes, twenty twenty one. We can all sit back

854
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: at our chairs and sight at this point, but it

855
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: was pretty compelling with what was going on. So perhaps

856
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: we're going to get our once hit every three or

857
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: four years interesting Aby Derby. But that McLaren versus for

858
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: Stappen dynamic in all of this. If that's what it

859
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: comes down to, isn't that a curve border consider.

860
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: It really is? I'm just talking about this has got

861
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: me more excited than I thought I was about the

862
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: last four rounds of this season. We've got some pretty

863
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: dreadful time zones. But you know what, I'm going to

864
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: be up for it. I'm going to be there. I'm

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00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: going to turn up to work. It's going to be great.

866
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: They was going to be dreadful whether we had a

867
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 2: live championship fight or not. The fact that they're going

868
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: to be dreadful and we've got a live championship fight

869
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: and one of the three people in the mix is

870
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: an Australian. It's good days and we can catch up

871
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 2: in our sleeplots. The season has finished, yes, not long ago.

872
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 1: Now before we wrap up MAP, we have to visit

873
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: the Crystal Ball, brought to you by Complete home Filtration.

874
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: I think my streak of success has ended, sadly. I

875
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: think I'm bit to the Yuki Sonoda was just going

876
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: to be resigned for no reason. I think that actually

877
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: probably not going to happen at all. But anyways, move

878
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: on from last week's predictions. What would you like to forecast?

879
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: Speaking of people who need to move on from last

880
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: week's predictions, I believe this bloke said on this podcast

881
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: last week McLaren's won their last grand breach of the season,

882
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: and then Lando Norris goes and wins by their largest

883
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: time gap that he's won a race all seasons. So

884
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: well done by me, Crystal Ball in the bin, New

885
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: Crystal ball, however, plogged in charged up. Now after the

886
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: last weekend you mentioned before, we had F one in Mexico,

887
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: we have Moto GP in Malaysia, we had supercars on

888
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast. We go from everything to nothing, and

889
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: so I'm going to throw further forward here and put

890
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: Motor GP in the chat this week simply because we've

891
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: got two rounds to go. Portermout and Valencia. World Championships

892
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: wrapped up. Runner up in the World Championships wrapped up,

893
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year is wrapped up. Here's a stat

894
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: for you. Of the twenty two full time riders in

895
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: Motor GP this year, do you know there's any four

896
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: of them that have never won a Grand Prix. That's

897
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: how deep this field is now, it's insane. Eighteen of

898
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: the twenty two have won Premier class Grand Prix. So

899
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, before the end of the year, near the

900
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: Portermout or Valencia, one of the four who hasn't won

901
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: a Grand Prix, that it be Pedro Acosta on a KTM.

902
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: I think he's going to add his name to the

903
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: list of winners and we may only have a series

904
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: where only three of the full time starters in this

905
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: series have not won a Premier class Grand Prix, which

906
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: you compare that to any other championship around the world.

907
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: I think it proves that Motor GPS in a pretty

908
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: amazing place right now with the depth of talent on

909
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: that grid. He's too good to be in that four

910
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: that are on the outside, and I think he addresses

911
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: that before the season's out.

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Speaker 1: I like that a lot. It is underrated. How just

913
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: wholly competitive the Motor GP field is.

914
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Speaker 2: I think just because unbelievable.

915
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: Mark Marcus is there winning a lot of the races.

916
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: Is not there now?

917
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: Well, imagine if we were talking about a Formula One

918
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: where sixteen or seventeen of the regulars had won Grand

919
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: Prix before. It's a totally different conversation, isn't it.

920
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll leave it up to you imagination. Which of

921
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: the four Formula One drivers would not have won a

922
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Grand Prix in that scenario, totally up to you.

923
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: I've got one anyway, I think you would.

924
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm also going to throw forward a little bit because

925
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: we have to. This is I guess, I don't know

926
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Speaker 1: if it's probably not adenderm but a modification to a

927
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: previous prediction. I think one of us has made.

928
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Speaker 2: You're not trying to rewrite history, are I.

929
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: Was wrong anyway at the time, so I think that's

930
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: probably wrong anyway, I just correct it if you like. Sure,

931
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Speaker 1: four Grand Prix remaining plus two sprints, I guess we

932
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Speaker 1: shouldn't discount them. Actually, so let's say six races remaining.

933
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Speaker 1: I'm predicting two more changes in the Championship League of

934
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Speaker 1: the season. You to decide in which order those changes

935
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: are going. Who's rotating into top spot at those various points.

936
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Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying.

937
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: Is one of them happening on the last lap in

938
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Speaker 2: Abdabase It's happening behind the safety car, Yeah, the Hollywood

939
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: safety car. Let's throw one of those out.

940
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Speaker 1: Not unprecedented, sadly, but just to come over the next

941
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Speaker 1: five or six weeks, however long there is until the

942
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Speaker 1: end of the season. But that's all the time. We

943
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Speaker 1: have a pit Talk today. You can subscribe to Pittalk

944
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945
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946
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947
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Speaker 1: your sleep before racing Racunes. The following week you can

948
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949
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950
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951
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Speaker 1: next week.