1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Good team. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: I hope you're bloody terrific. Welcome to another installment of 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: the You Project. It's Harps and what's your middle name? Coops? 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Is it? What is it? 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 3: Well? 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 4: If you were addressed me formally, Harps, it would be 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 4: Jacqueline and Cooper. 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was Anne. 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: I thought it was Jacqueline and Cooper. Five time Olympian, 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: five time World champion, Woman about town, business woman, keynote speaker, 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: highly paid, way much more dough than me. She cosper 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: hour you could have about ten hours with me and 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: one for her, because she's a big deal. 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: What I said, because I'm better? 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, well, no doubt. I mean that wasn't even 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: in question. Oh that's why they paid the big bucks. 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: So you've got nowhere to go now. I didn't argue 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: with you. How you fucked? 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: An't you? 20 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: Yep? I'm embarrassed. 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you are. You are a big deal. 22 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: But despite the fact that you do take the piss 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: out of me, which is because we've been friends for 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: four hundred years, you are very good. 25 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: At what you do. Welcome back to the Youth Project. 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: You're the busiest woman in Australia. 27 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: What's going on with you? 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: There's a few things we can't discuss, but might one 29 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: of them might become apparent in a week or so. 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: We need to be evasive and somewhat mystical. No's that's 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: not the right word, but anyway, there might be something 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: that the public might become aware of mystical. 33 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 4: I like, yeah, so end of last year, I went 34 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: away and did something pretty exciting. I wouldn't say it 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: was a bucket list thing for me to do, but 36 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: once I got offered the opportunity, I was like, Okay, 37 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: this sort of kicks all of my boxes. I want 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 4: to go and do it. 39 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: And in the next. 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: Couple of weeks we'll be able to actually announce what 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: it was, where I was, who I was with, and 42 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: why I was doing it. So it's going to be 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: a lot of fun. I'm excited to see it. 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: All may Yeah, that'll do. 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: That'll do. Hey. 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: You know, when you're when you've got a profile and 47 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: you're you or like you that is well known and 48 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, five times Olympian all that stuff, five times 49 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: World champion, you get offered lots of things from you know, 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: different opportunities. Some of them are not really opportunities, they're 51 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: kind of dressed up as an opportunity. But when you 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: get into it and I get asked a few things 53 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: as well, which on the surface it's like, we've got 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: an opportunity for you, and then you go, no, this 55 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: is actually an opportunity for you, not me. But what's 56 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: the weirdest thing, the weirdest opportunity in inverted commas that 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: you've been presented with, like whether or not it's working 58 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: with a company or doing a weird gig, or some 59 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: kind of sponsorship or some kind of alignment or relationship 60 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: where you got into it and you went, this is 61 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: actually bullshit. 62 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: Well it's it wasn't even a sponsorship. I guess it 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: was a request where they thought it would be I mean, 64 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: money would be changing hands. But when an Australian, as 65 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: someone that lives in Australia heard that I was going 66 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: through IVF, they offered to buy my eggs because of 67 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: the potential DNA. 68 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Wow, so yeah. 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy. 70 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: They thought, well five time, limping, good jeans, nice muscular 71 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: and they said, if you've got spare either embryos, which 72 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: is obviously with my husband, come together, ready to go, 73 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: or just my eggs. 74 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: And they said, yeah, they slid into my DMS. 75 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: Then asked if that would be an opportunity that I'd 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: like to seek and I'd be rewarded for it. I 77 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh, imagine if I did that, 78 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: I'd have fibblings of my children, like their potential brothers 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: and sisters are wandering around. 80 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: That's a big no. So you do get to them. 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: How many minutes did you consider that for? 82 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I was like, don't lie, block, block, no, not okay, 83 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: hang on a million dollars. 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: They offer you a million dollars for one of your eggs. 85 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: A million. 86 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: Now we've still got one in a freezer. And it 87 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: was talked about in a book that I wrote about 88 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: my IVF journey, and that's why it's sparked an interest 89 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: in somebody, like you've got one in the freezer because 90 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: the IVF. I guess it's always that conundrum at the end, 91 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: when you are lucky enough to have a family like 92 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: Mario and I and you do have spare embryos like that. 93 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: What do you do? 94 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: What do you do when you know that your family's complete? 95 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 4: You can either donate it to science. You can obviously 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: just discard it. And the other one is that you 97 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: can put it into like an embryo bank and it 98 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: can go out there. And this person thought, well, we're 99 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: not going to wait for it to go into a bank. 100 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 4: We're going to offer you an opportunity. 101 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: Just from reading my book. 102 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, it's we call it the frosty. It's 103 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 4: still in the freezer. It's been there for nine years. 104 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: It's it's staying there. 105 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: How long is I know, you know, clearly I'm an 106 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: IVF researcher. How long is the embryo viable? 107 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: I think is the medical term? 108 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: Oh so I think that. Well, they send out reminder 109 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: letters every couple of years because you have to pay 110 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: storage fees at the facility where they're being kept. So 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: there's a couple of years that goes by, you know, minor, 112 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: do you still want to pay the rental, you. 113 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: Know, the storage fee, this potential human that we've got here. 114 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 4: So I think after ten years they really get you 115 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: to decide. Like I turned fifty in January, the frosty 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: is never ever going to be thawed for us, So 117 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 4: that I'll probably send out another email saying what is 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: it that you'd like to do with that? So for 119 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: us as a family, we still haven't even discussed that 120 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 4: because I'm like, that's Mario, that's me, that's together. But 121 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: it's something that gets talked about, and I'll probably get 122 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: a lot of people after me now listening to this 123 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: saying why wouldn't you donate it? Why wouldn't you give 124 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: it to a couple? But when it comes to IVF 125 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 4: and donor embryos, there's a lot of laws that haven't 126 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: been really locked down. So it is the same as adoption, 127 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: so that that embryo can come back and find you. 128 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: So I don't think we're a bad family to find, 129 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: but you know, it's something that I probably wouldn't want 130 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: for my family. We feel like our family is complete 131 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 4: the way it is. But it's that question that I 132 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 4: still don't even know how to answer, to do the 133 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: right thing by that embryo. 134 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: But also, like, you know, what I'm about to say 135 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: is almost ironic because we are talking about it publicly, 136 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: But then what you do or don't do with that 137 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: embryo is really nobody else's business. Like it doesn't impact 138 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: anyone else unless they make it, you know what I mean. 139 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: It's like, it's not it's a completely private decision and issue. 140 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. It is. It's our business. 141 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 4: It's got nothing to do with anybody else. But the 142 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: word impact is a big one, Craig, because whilst it 143 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: doesn't we feel like it doesn't impact them, it could 144 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: impact them and that's what they think. They think this 145 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: is something that could impact us. We actually have that 146 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: family that you're written about, that you dreamed about, that 147 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 4: you've now got and you're going to flush an embryo. 148 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: So it's a really tricky thing. 149 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 150 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: Did you see them the series that I've been out 151 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: on Channel nine moment called Big Miracles. 152 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: I've seen it, No, I have not. I know that 153 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: it's on, I'm aware of it, but I have not 154 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: watched it. Did you. 155 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I've been watching parts of it because we 156 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: were that couple, we were trying to have a family. 157 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: It's about IVF and every single person's journey. 158 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: Is completely different. 159 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: Some happen to get pregnant the first go, and they've 160 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: saved all their money to obviously try for an IVF cycle, 161 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: and some are years and years and years down the track, 162 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: which is obviously years of heartache and hope and lost hope, 163 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: and then obviously think that maybe you're going to get 164 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: that child again, and then there's loss. 165 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: If there's miscarriage. 166 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: So there's so much emotion when it comes into having 167 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: a baby, and if you're not there yet and you 168 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: haven't had one, I know what that was like. So 169 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: I yearned for something so much. Who knows, maybe I 170 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: would message someone in Instagram saying that embryo, do you 171 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 4: want to have that? So I understand it's desperations is 172 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: too much of a hard word, but at that point 173 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: you'll try anything to try and get a family that 174 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: you feel like you deserve and rightly. 175 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know very much. 176 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: But what don't Is there something that people who've never 177 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: been through if or never even IVF will never even 178 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: open the door to think about it or. 179 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: Explore it or research it. 180 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: Is there something that would shock people like that, somebody 181 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: like me who doesn't know much that I would never 182 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 2: have thought about or I wouldn't get about the process 183 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: or going through it. 184 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: Well, I'll quickly give you a couple of things. So 185 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: it's around about ten thousand dollars per cycle, so that's 186 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 4: obviously a female's monthly cycle. So if you don't get 187 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: pregnant the first time, then it might not be ten thousand, 188 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 4: and then next it depends on how many eggs were 189 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: hard harvested, so a ten thousand dollars cycle. If you qualify, 190 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 4: if you're deemed infertile, then Medicare will step in and 191 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: you're welcome for a rebate. Not everyone gets a rebate 192 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: if you're socially it's a social decision if you want 193 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: to try IVF because you want to freeze your eggs, 194 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: or I'm not too sure about same sex now that 195 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: same sex marriages are legal in Australia, but back when 196 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: I was doing IVF, if you're a same sex couple, 197 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: you wouldn't get the rebate because they had said that 198 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: was a social choice, which is just nuts, right, trying 199 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 4: to have baby, trying to have a baby. So it's 200 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: around ten thousand dollars, and that's where you start injecting 201 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: yourself for a week or so to try and grow 202 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: the embryos that you can't actually do yourself. And when 203 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: they're about twenty mils, so about two centimeters the follicle itself, 204 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: they book. 205 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: You into hospital. 206 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: Your husband or your partner or your donor goes into 207 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: supplies a sperm sample close by the hospital, not like 208 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: in a dodgy place, but actually in a proper facility 209 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: where they can keep that sperm warm all of the 210 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 4: eggs that they've retrieved. Sometimes you might get one, sometimes 211 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 4: you'll get none, and you'll get maybe ten. 212 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: It depends. They match the sperm and. 213 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: The eggs together and they'll call you back to the 214 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: next day with a fertilization update. So you may have 215 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: gotten ten eggs, but match with the sperm, nothing fertilized, 216 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: So that is absolutely heartbreaking. You've had surgery, you've gone 217 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: through a couple of weeks, you've spent ten grand, and like, hey, 218 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: nothing fertilized. So you can have another process called IXY 219 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: where they actually inject the sperm into the egg. That 220 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 4: gives you a higher rated success, but it's more expensive. 221 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 4: So now it's like the plus plus IVF is ten 222 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: grand plus plus. You want to do IXY, that's plus 223 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: another two thousand. You want to take the embryodo of 224 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: five days in a lab being watched twenty four to 225 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: seven by an embryologist, plus plus plus, So it gets 226 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: very very expensive. So you can see why the pressure 227 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: and the stress of trying to make it work for 228 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: a cycle because for a lot of Australians. 229 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: Is just too much. It's just too much. 230 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: It's prohibitive, isn't it? 231 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: Speaking of all things? You know, bodies, you are? You 232 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: just turned fifty. Okay, hang on, you just turned fifty. 233 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: You don't look at you don't look at you look 234 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: you look a good forty. But you retired from competition 235 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: at thirty three? 236 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: Am I correct? 237 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: Thirty seven? 238 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: Thirty seven? Oh that's right, because when we reconnected it 239 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: was thirteen years that you had Okay, So you and 240 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: I used to do some work together. I used to 241 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: train you and do some of your conditioning stuff back 242 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: in the day when you were jumping off ramps and 243 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: twisting and turning and periodically landing. 244 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: Mostly landing percentage was only twenty percent. Say again, my 245 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: landing percentage over my entire career was twenty percent. 246 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: How does that compare. 247 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: Well, that's like showing up every day to work knowing 248 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: that eighty percent of your day is going to be 249 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: a shit show. 250 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: That's true. 251 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: In the very beginning, I landed nothing. I landed nothing 252 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: for years and years and years, and then I started 253 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: landing one every now and again, and then I started 254 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 4: landing a couple and then by the end of twenty years, 255 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: I was landing more than I crashed. But I kept 256 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: a log book, and people think that's kind of crazy. 257 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 4: But during COVID, I got out all of my logbooks 258 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 4: and put it into a spreadsheet, as you do, and 259 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 4: I wanted to work out my landing percentage, and it 260 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 4: was only twenty percent. And people ask me all the time, 261 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, why, I know, if would you keep going 262 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: knowing that it is going to be a hard day 263 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 4: eighty percent of a hard day wiping snow out of 264 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 4: your ears and landing on your face and having to 265 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: like brush off the snow and start again, and knowing 266 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: that you're going to go up there and got an 267 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: eighty percent chance of crashing failing, just all of it. 268 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: And I said, that's where I actually learned the most. 269 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: Craig was learning how to do better, how to change 270 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: what I was doing, reinvented a little bit, deconstructed work 271 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: with my coach, processes feedback better, because when you're an 272 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 4: aerial scare and you do land, it's such a shocking thing. 273 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: The coach is like, oh great, do that again. No 274 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: real usable feedback in do that again. But where the 275 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 4: feedback and all the work came in was actually on 276 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: the eighty percent where we had to try and fix it. 277 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 4: Why'n shoe landing, We've got to get you to land 278 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: What do we need to do to make that happen, 279 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: because if you're not landing, you're getting injured. So, yes, 280 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: aerial skiing, I crashed more than I landed. And that 281 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: was a career of twenty years and I retired thirteen 282 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: years ago from that crazy merry go around. 283 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: And one of the byproducts of landing twenty percent of 284 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: the time and not eighty percent of the time is 285 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: thirty three operations or something. 286 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I had twenty five surgeries during my active careers, 287 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: just small scopes, scoping the knee a few times, scooping 288 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 4: ntannie a few times. I'll be reconstruction, shoulder, reconstruction, new reconstruction. 289 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 4: Broke my hip, dislocated, it broke my face. So during 290 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: the active career there was twenty five surgeries and I've 291 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: had about seven since and sort of. 292 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 5: Like the cleanup to try and get you back to. 293 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: How you were before you started the sport, and one 294 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: included a total hip replacement less than a year ago. 295 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: WOASA wowsa. 296 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: And so you and I reconnected because of this mysterious 297 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: thing that we can't talk about. Well more than that, 298 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: we caught up, and now we've been catching up and 299 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: I'm clearly your best friend in the world. Thanks. How 300 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: has it been getting back into training, because you not 301 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: that you did nothing for thirteen years, but you didn't 302 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: really train per se although you're very active and busy 303 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: and still was on skeeze a fair bit, but in 304 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: terms of being in a gym and working out with 305 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: a focus to build strength and achieve a few things physically, 306 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: you weren't really doing that. And then I guess six 307 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: months ago you started training again, give or take. How 308 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: has your body changed? And are you hating it? Are 309 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: you loving it? Are you glad you got back into it? 310 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: Or is it just opened another door and that weird 311 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: brainy yours. 312 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: It's all of them. 313 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: I think I sort of hate it now because I'm 314 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: back to feeling that guilty if you don't go to 315 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: the gym, where I sort of gave up on myself, 316 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: so I didn't have that bit saying, oh I get 317 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: to the gym, get to the gym. I just didn't 318 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: even think about getting the gym, so there wasn't that 319 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: internal sort of wrestle that you have every day with 320 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: I've got to get to the gym. 321 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: Do I want to go to the gym. I'm in 322 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: the car back door. I want to go to the gym. 323 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to go subway, you know so, But 324 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: I absolutely love it. I feel like that I've woken up. 325 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: My body was so broken after what it did for 326 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: twenty years. Then after my hip dislocation, I spent thirteen 327 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: years cutting the back out of my sneakers so where 328 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: your heel fits, I cut them so that they could 329 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: just I could just slide into my sneakers so they 330 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: almost look like wearable slippers. I couldn't bend down and 331 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: do it my shoelacers. I couldn't really organize a shoehorn. 332 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 4: That's how stuffed up my knee joint. My hip joint 333 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: was so because the hip was so bad, my knee 334 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: was so bad. So I didn't go to the gym 335 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: because even just walking to pick up the kids from 336 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 4: school pickup meant that I was in so much pain 337 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: at the end of the day that I'd have to 338 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: sort of build a nest in the bed to fall 339 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 4: asleep comfortably, and then I had to take all these 340 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: different medications to keep the pain under control, the inflammation 341 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: under control. So having a hip replacement was wonderful, but 342 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: then us getting back together again. It's honestly, I sort 343 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: of thrown myself back into that athlete mode and my 344 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: body didn't take long to respond at all. I mean, 345 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: you could probably talk to that better than me. But 346 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 4: you know, I went from being a mum of thirteen 347 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: years doing nothing in the gym to walking in there 348 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: now and I look at myself in the mirror and 349 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: there's parts of me that look very athletic still. So 350 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: I'm proud of how my body you responded. I'm proud 351 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: of how the shape that it's taken on. I love 352 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: that I'm fifty and I've got a pretty good six pack. 353 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: So there's a lot to like about working hard, and 354 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 4: I'm honestly, I'm so grateful Craig. It's it's been the 355 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: best place to reunite. 356 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 357 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean we do take the piece a little bit, 358 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: but I will say people who train a bit will 359 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: understand this, and for those that don't, I'll try and 360 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: put it in context. But so I introduced you to 361 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: They're called different things, but basically a revolving staircase StairMaster. 362 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: They're called different things by different companies, but so I 363 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: introduced Jackie to this thing called a revolving staircase, which 364 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: is fucking horrible. And it goes from level one, which 365 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 2: is very slow, up to level sixteen, which is essentially running. 366 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: And to give you an idea, like, I'm not unfit. 367 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 2: I don't do heaps of cardio, but if I had 368 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: to go out run five kilometers now I could with 369 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: not too much problem. I'm eighty four kilos, I'm quite lean. 370 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: I do way more weights than cardia. But don't smoke, 371 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: don't drink. My default setting is pretty fit. But I 372 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: remember jumping on the not that long ago. I jumped 373 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: on the old revolving staircase. I did fifteen hundred steps, 374 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: and I nelly died. I haven't told you this, Cooper. 375 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: I did fifteen hundred. I call it Cooper. I did 376 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred steps and I Nelly died. Now your second workout, 377 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: I think, after thirteen years of no training, you did 378 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: five thousand, and you did all of them faster, at 379 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: a faster rate. So like level ten, level twelve and 380 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: I plot at level six, level eight, and I was 381 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: just looking at you and that there's something weird about you, 382 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: and because you're I mean, firstly, you weren't unfit, but 383 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: you hadn't trained. Like you're just busy and active, and 384 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: you walk a lot, and you move a lot, and 385 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: you've got kids, and you've got sport, and you've got school, 386 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: and you've got in and out of planes and cars, 387 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: and you've got speaking gigs and you're always probably walk 388 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: thirty thousand steps a day. I reckon, But you hadn't 389 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: been training, and I was watching you on this thing. 390 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: I was looking at your face. I'm like, she is in. 391 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: The best possible way. She's a fucking weirdo. 392 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: I was just looking at you and you were like, 393 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: I'm not letting this thing beat me. I mean, it 394 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: was just day two of training after thirteen years off, 395 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: and you would think that it was a gold medal 396 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: that you were vying for. You hate giving up, and 397 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: you hate you hate like you almost can't work at 398 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: If I go I want you to work at six 399 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: out of ten, You're like, nah, get fucked, I can't 400 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: is spot on. 401 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: I feel like I have to beat the machine. Then 402 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 4: I feel like I've had a victory for myself. Competitive people. 403 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: You can't turn it off, even though it was aerial skiing. 404 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 5: You can move that drive to something else. 405 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 4: And honestly, it was almost like you, I don't know, 406 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: let the tiger out of a cage or something. 407 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: I'm not too sure what happened. 408 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: But when you introduce me to that bloody stam master, 409 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 4: because it is tricky and it is difficult. 410 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 5: And it's so hard to actually. 411 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 4: Get good at, I thought, I'm fucking sort this thing 412 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 4: out on day two, and now I can take phone 413 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: calls at like a level six, level seven, at level 414 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: ten on board because it's too slow at twelve, I'm 415 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 4: sort of moving along. And that competitive thing too, is like, oh, 416 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 4: let's try and stay it for half an hour at 417 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 4: thirteen or fourteen, and I want to try and beat 418 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: last week's steps, and I photograph what I've done just 419 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: so I can beat last week. 420 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: I know, I get the photos sent to me. 421 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 4: I know I've absolutely loved it though, So it is great. 422 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 4: And you know, whether it was the hip replacement, the 423 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: thing that we can't talk about coming out, you and 424 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: I connecting again, I feel like as a fifty year old. 425 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: If I had said to myself thirteen years ago, as 426 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 4: a retiring athlete, in the best form of my life, 427 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: just retiring from Olympic Games, I hope I can look 428 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: like ABC and D when I'm fifty. 429 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm there. 430 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: Craig, Yeah, you are well. You don't look your age 431 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: at all. In your face, you don't look your age. 432 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: You look I reckon early forties. But your body you 433 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: look like an athlete again. 434 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: Like you lean, you're strong, you've got muscle, you've got 435 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: definition and and you know, some of that's genetics, but 436 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 2: a lot of that is just hard work. But I 437 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: think the thing that people don't, you know, we kind 438 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: of understand. We know there's a relationship between the mind 439 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: and the body and the emotions, and you know just 440 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: how we experience life based on those three variables. But 441 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't think we genuinely understand how great exercise is 442 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: for your mind and for your emotions and for your 443 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: happiness and for creating the right brain chemistry. You know, 444 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: dopamine and you know, just the stuff that makes you 445 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: feel good right, and then you do their workout and 446 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: not only have you done a great thing, physiologically for 447 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: your body, but also mentally and emotionally. You feel good 448 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: for the rest of the day because you've ticked this 449 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: big box. 450 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 4: Well that's right, so you're ticking that big box. But 451 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 4: if you can manage to go with a bunch of 452 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 4: friends like we all meet up, it's also that social 453 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: connection as well. So I sort of feel like there's four, five, six, 454 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 4: seven boxes that I'm kicking just by going with you. 455 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 4: So I'm getting all of that, and I'm also having 456 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: a social outlet away from the school mum to pick 457 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 4: up the drop off the work side being at home, 458 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: and it's just like there's another part of me now 459 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 4: and there's a friendship. 460 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: Group that I think. 461 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: It's like going to like the new pub, you know, 462 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: we're going to go or a cafe. We go there, 463 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 4: hang out, get a workout done, connect with each other, 464 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: check in with each other, and you drive away you chitch. 465 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: Feel good. 466 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: Well when you think about it. 467 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: So what Jackie's talking about everyone is there's a bunch 468 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 2: of people that I kind of help and a few friends. 469 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: And one is Johnny that you know that got blown 470 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: up in the gas bottle accidents, and another one is 471 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: the crab that you've heard about, who literally died at 472 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: the gym for seventeen minutes, and his daughter Jamie, who's 473 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: a freak, and you know Chris, and I'd coat some 474 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: friends of mine who who have just gotten on board. 475 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: And there's just this eclectic mix of humans and like 476 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: in normal life, in whatever that means, we would never intersect. 477 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: Like everybody is so different, so wildly different, and big 478 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: Christian everybody's so different. But in that place, there are 479 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: no differences. Everybody's just there for the same reason to 480 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 2: have a good time, to lift some weights, to do 481 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 2: something good for their body. And it's kind of the 482 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: great equalizer I think in some ways working out together. 483 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: Well, yes, I agree. And by the way, you actually 484 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 4: call us the merry band and misfits. Okay, so it 485 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 4: doesn't say the eclctic group of humans, it's the misfits. Hey, 486 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm getting the misfits together. 487 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: Do you want to come? 488 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, right, Okay, I've been labeled, but I'm happy 489 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: to be labeled. You're right, we would never have intersected. 490 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 4: But wow, what I've learnt by Johnny and he's resilience 491 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: to be there and to show up and everyone will 492 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 4: drop there waits to help him out because he's just 493 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 4: such a fighter and just the whole group and it 494 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: isn't equal because whilst I've been to five Olympic Games 495 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: and one, you know, five world titles, you look at 496 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: Jamie over there and I could never have done or 497 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: do what she does. So there's all there, and there's inspiration, 498 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: and there's there's really just I'm just so excited for 499 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: her and obviously her body and everybody else, like everyone's 500 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: physical journey. 501 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: That's I'm proud of them. 502 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: You, you know, with your most people probably don't know this, 503 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 2: but your your main correct me if I'm wrong, But 504 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: your main job in inverted comments these days is standing 505 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 2: on a stage and talking to groups in various you know, 506 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: primarily in the corporate space, but you do skills and 507 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: you do other things, but a lot of corporate and 508 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: here and all over the world. Do you kind of 509 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: have the same level of all the same energy of 510 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: I need to be fucking awesome at this because I know, 511 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: like you've done a lot of presenting. I've done a 512 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 2: lot of presenting, like I can and I don't, but 513 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: I can kind of almost just walk on stage auto pilot, 514 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: do my thing, but be amusing, be engaging, tell a 515 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: few stories, say share some thoughts and ideas and just 516 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: rely on miles on the clock and bit of skill 517 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: and a bit of awareness and. 518 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: Walk off right. I try not to do that. 519 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: I try to be very present and I want everyone 520 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: to be the best one I've ever done. Are you 521 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: kind of competitive with yourself in terms of being the 522 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: best you you could ever be on stage? But not 523 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: only I feel like you want to be the best 524 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: speaker in Australia that's paid the most as well? 525 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 4: Well, I want to be this. I definitely want to 526 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: be the best speaker. But what I love is a challenge. 527 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 4: So when I do a speaker brief, so once you 528 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 4: get booked for a job, two weeks before the event, 529 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: you make contact. FUR will contact with the client and 530 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: the client tells you about the event and normally the 531 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: client will say, wow, gee, this has been an event 532 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: we've had the last ten years, we've had some really 533 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 4: great speakers. The best speaker Where've ever had was I'm like, oh, 534 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 4: the best speaker right, I'm like, I want to be 535 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 4: the best speaker. And I actually say to them, if 536 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 4: you don't think I'm the best speaker. 537 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 5: When I'm finished, you don't actually have to pay me. 538 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: And they're like, no, stop, stop it stop, and I'm like, no, 539 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: I am serious. 540 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: If you don't think that I. 541 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: Was better than your best speaker last time you had 542 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 4: this event, don't pay me, because I want him to 543 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 4: feel absolutely excited by that, thinking, Okay, he's froffing at 544 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 4: the mouth, he's excited, thinking she's so competitive. And usually 545 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 4: nine times out of ten, the MC will say, well, 546 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: it looks like we actually have to pay this Jackie 547 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: Mouth because she was the best speaker. I try to 548 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: bring a lot of energy to this to the stage. 549 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 4: I am the double espresso that the audience didn't even 550 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 4: realize they needed, wanted, or had. They just leave with 551 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 4: so much energy. And it's by the way I engage, 552 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 4: It's the way I project, It's the way I connect 553 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: with the audience. 554 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 3: And I just want to bring them on my journey 555 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: and it. 556 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 4: Will lift them up, but will feel like that they 557 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: can do anything and hopefully cart Wiel out of the 558 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 4: auditorium or out of the venue feeling like life is 559 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: good and I'm ready to go and attack it with 560 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: a champion attitude. 561 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 562 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And some people are going to be listening to 563 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: this a small percentage going, oh, gee, she's pretty happy 564 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: with herself. But I'm telling you that's actually all true. 565 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: She actually is phenomenal. So if you've got heaps cash, 566 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: you know, and you're running an event, you know, just 567 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: reach out. 568 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 4: I also got a research to Craig. I know you 569 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 4: touched on that saying that you want to be prepared 570 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 4: and stay present. I don't take for granted what I do, 571 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: and I don't just clip the ticket either, So I 572 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: show up hours in advance, and if there's tables to 573 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 4: be set or conference showbacks, I go and put them 574 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 4: to help out the event organizer, like I'm happy to 575 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 4: be there, I'm grateful to be there. I want to 576 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 4: feel like that I'm a part of the event and 577 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: I wasn't just a transaction. I'm a big one on 578 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 4: old style relationships. You build them respectfully, and I do 579 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 4: a lot of research into your business, into the people 580 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: that I'll be speaking to, so that when the questions 581 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 4: are asked, I can answer with meaning and that it 582 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: will mean something to them and hopefully they can use 583 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: it within their personal and their professional lives. 584 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that ability when you're working with a 585 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: group to be able to understand their culture, their needs, 586 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: what it is they do, who, what their product and 587 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: services are, who their customers are, what's going great in 588 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: their organization, what's not going great, what are their challenges, 589 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: and why they're you know, I asked that, I go, 590 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: why are you bringing me in? 591 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 3: You know? 592 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: And sometimes they go, oh, well, we need to speak. 593 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, is there anything else? 594 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? So it's yeah. 595 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: But if you can understand the culture of the organization 596 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: and the needs of the organization and where they're at 597 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: into you know, dynamically with the group, with the business, 598 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: with even with the P and L perhaps or just 599 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: at how long they've been around, what it is they do, 600 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: what's going great, what's not going great, and then then 601 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: you can share your stuff but be relevant. 602 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: To them, yes, definitely. And then if you have no relevance, 603 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: then there's no importance. There's no meaning for you to 604 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: be there, so it means nothing. And you want to 605 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 4: make connections. When you've made a connection with someone, you 606 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 4: know that you're making change right, and change is so important. 607 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: But I honestly feel so grateful. 608 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: I mean, besides being speaking too, I work for the 609 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 4: Trope Financial as you know, as a brand ambassador, so 610 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: I get to do some really amazing things for them. 611 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 4: My recent one was up for international women, say, inspiring 612 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: women within the finance industry. I'm doing a staff event 613 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: for them tomorrow. Imagine new staff coming in and they're 614 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 4: hit with the dose of me. They're like, who is 615 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: this woman? So I've got some really really great clients. Obviously, 616 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 4: I work for some great people La Trobe, the Mount 617 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: Buller and a whole lot of other people. So it's 618 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 4: been a great thirteen years since I retired, that's for sure. 619 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: I've spoken with. 620 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: When I say spoken with, I've spoken on the same 621 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: program as quite a lot of Olympians, probably twenty Olympians, 622 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: I reckon. I'll tell you off air who. But there's 623 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: a couple, God bless them, and they're good, but they're 624 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: a bit of a one trick pony, like they basically 625 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: tell the same you know. Like there are some that 626 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: I've been at four different conferences and they've spoken and 627 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: they have one keynote and it goes for the exact 628 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: same amount of time because it's all choreographed, the same music, 629 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: the same videos, the same everything. So it's essentially a performance. 630 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: Please tell me you don't do that. 631 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 4: It depends on actually what they want. So I would 632 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: say that my after dinner because it's meant to be 633 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: a bit light, very engaging. 634 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: It's a different audience. 635 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: That is a very different style of presentation than what 636 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 4: you would give when you're standing in front of a 637 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: conference and they're saying exit, enter stage left, exit stage right, 638 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: and there's a theme and you've got to hit all 639 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 4: of the high notes. The after dinner or even the 640 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: breakfast one, it's more punchy, it's shorter, the presentation has 641 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 4: to lift faster, so constantly changing my presentation. I competed 642 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 4: for twenty years. I've got twenty years worth of stories, 643 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 4: so be very boring if I just repeated the same 644 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: two or three stories. So I'm always begging for either 645 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 4: more time so I can tell more stories. Because they're 646 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 4: all great ones, and you've heard a lot of them. 647 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: I've had some fun stuff happen, which all have great meaning, 648 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 4: and there would be I think a benefit to companies 649 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 4: hearing all of the stories. But you don't get all 650 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 4: of the time. And sometimes people say, my friend heard 651 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: you speak. I want you to just do that because 652 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: they know that that work for that other person, and 653 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: they know that that was good enough for their audience. 654 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 4: But by the time you do a speaker brief, you 655 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: generally talk about what it is, why people are coming together, 656 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 4: how often are you having it, what type of engagement 657 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 4: do they need? Is it more conversation or is it 658 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 4: just a straight pinot no questions? 659 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: They're all very different. 660 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: When you get on stage, what's your overwhelming or perhaps 661 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: underlying emotional state. 662 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: Is it excitement? Is it anxiety? Is it fear? 663 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's not anxiety or fear. 664 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: Is it like? 665 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: What are you? 666 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: What are you feeling? Or are you just really calm 667 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: and focused? Like? 668 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: What's your like? I'm interested because I know how I am. 669 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: And also this is such a source of fucking terror 670 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: for so many human beings. The idea of you've got 671 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: to get up in front of all of those people, 672 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: talk for an hour, don't say, don't fuck up, be interesting, 673 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: be a bit funny, and we're all going to sit 674 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: there and evaluate you ready, set go right. That's horrifying 675 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: for people, but that's the real of what goes on. 676 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: So what are you feeling when you get up? 677 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 4: So start my keynote, I show a six minute video, 678 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 4: which is a non negotiable for me. I'm really lucky 679 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: that Bruce McAvaney and I became quite close over my career, 680 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: and when I retired, he put together a video like 681 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 4: a mini movie of my career and he narrates it. 682 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: So he but that's not fair. That's like, that's fucking steroids, 683 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: Like you're on the gear, like that is literally performance enhancing. 684 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 4: Well, you know what I feel like at that point, 685 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 4: I don't even need to do anything because they're already 686 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 4: like they're in. When I get clients saying we don't 687 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: really want to have that sort of audio setup, we 688 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 4: don't really want to have major av I'm like, listen, 689 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 4: you need to have visits, Bruce. Bruce is like my entree. 690 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: You know, when you go to a great restaurant and 691 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 4: you eat an entree and it's amazing. You're like, fuck, 692 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 4: if that's the entree, I can't wait for. 693 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: The main course. 694 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 4: And he gets my audience primed, ready salivating. So this 695 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: video plays and while the videos play, it's six minutes, 696 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: I'm actually watching a video going Oh my left arm 697 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 4: was two bent and I could have added that better, 698 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: like I'm actually critiquing myself from vision from moments that 699 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 4: happened twenty years ago. So I sort of watched the video. 700 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 4: I'm watching the crowd. Twenty percent of the people start 701 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 4: crying during the video because Bruce does that to people 702 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: just with the words. And then I come up and 703 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 4: I'm ready to sort of extend that moment that he's 704 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 4: already had with them. So I'm usually, you know, foaming 705 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: at the mouth, throwing at the bit, ready to go, 706 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: and I just come up. 707 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 3: It's NonStop. 708 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 4: It's forty five minutes, barely taking a breath, never taking 709 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 4: a drink of water. And the only time I stop 710 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 4: is where I'm asking the crowds of questions. 711 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: Amazing. 712 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 2: All right, well we can only chat briefly today because 713 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 2: you've got a very busy day because you're because you're 714 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: a big deal, as you keep telling me, Oh no, 715 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: you're a big deal. 716 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: It's all right, We're okay. 717 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 4: With it, but is an idiot. I don't go around 718 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 4: saying I'm a big deal idiot? 719 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Oops? Stay there, we'll say goodbye there. 720 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: But do you want to tell anyone anything where they 721 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 2: can find you or website or anything? Ah? 722 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 4: Sure, So I'm exclusive with Saxon speakers. If you want 723 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 4: to hear more from me your next conference, go to 724 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 4: Saxton's or you can message me and I'll send you 725 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 4: to the. 726 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 3: Right people. 727 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 4: And we forget together in a couple of weeks so 728 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 4: we can talk about the thing that we can't talk about. 729 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: We will definitely be back. 730 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: We'll chat for longer in a couple of weeks, but 731 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: for the minute, everyone, love your guts as your collective gutzs. 732 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: See you soon.