WEBVTT - Sharri | 18 February

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<v Speaker 1>Why.

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<v Speaker 2>On Sky News, this is Sharry.

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<v Speaker 3>Good Evening Tonight, we expose more doctors for denying the

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<v Speaker 3>rape of Israeli women on October seven and defending her

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<v Speaker 3>mus taking hostages. These complaints have been dismissed by the

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<v Speaker 3>h Triple C. That exclusive coming up, plus Hollywood actor

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<v Speaker 3>Nate bars is on the show. He asks why haven't

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<v Speaker 3>police pressed charges against the Bankstown nurses and leading economists

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<v Speaker 3>are now concerned that RBA has bowed to political pressure

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<v Speaker 3>in cutting rates too early. I'll be joined by former

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<v Speaker 3>Treasury Assistant Secretary David Pearl and Warren Hogan, and let's

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<v Speaker 3>start the show with the rates decision. Today, the RBA

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<v Speaker 3>delivered a rate cut of zero point twenty five percentage points.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the first mortgage relief in more than four years,

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<v Speaker 3>and the cash rate will now fall from four point

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<v Speaker 3>three five percent to four point one. Leading economists are

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<v Speaker 3>concerned this could set back the fight against inflation, that

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<v Speaker 3>this outcome today is a result of political pressure, and indeed,

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<v Speaker 3>IBA Governor Michelle Bullock faced an intense political campaign to

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<v Speaker 3>cut rates ahead of the election. Labor MPs publicly urged

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<v Speaker 3>her to cut by double the usual amount, up to

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<v Speaker 3>fifty basis points, despite grave concerns from economists and a

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<v Speaker 3>group of labor politicians including Mike Friedlander, Graham Perrot, Brian Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 3>Rob Mitchell and Sam Ray all piled on the pressure

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<v Speaker 3>on Michelle Bullock in comments in the Australian newspaper Today,

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<v Speaker 3>and others including union figures, went on camera.

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<v Speaker 4>If they make a decision today not to cut interest rates,

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<v Speaker 4>it would be a dire mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>And I reckon that they deserve great relief.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to cut gear and I want to cut

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<v Speaker 5>My job is to stand up for my community and

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<v Speaker 5>we need a cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Pre ta cheap cheap, Well we all would. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>any of us have got a mortgage and like one.

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<v Speaker 6>That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the RBA faces accusations that they caved in to

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<v Speaker 3>political pressure because there's an election on now. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>have full transparency over the precise vote that took place

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<v Speaker 3>at the RBA board, whether it was unanimous or which

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<v Speaker 3>members voted for or against a cut. But Michelle Bullock

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<v Speaker 3>did indicate today that it was a heated discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a difficult decision in the sense that there

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<v Speaker 4>were arguments on both sides and what I would say

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<v Speaker 4>is that the Board had a very active debate of

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<v Speaker 4>the arguments on both sides on this, but in the

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<v Speaker 4>end came to the view that the better decision was

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<v Speaker 4>to be a little bit of the restrictiveness, still maintain

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<v Speaker 4>some restrictiveness, but ease a little bit of restrictiveness in

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<v Speaker 4>recognition that we are making progress towards our goal.

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<v Speaker 3>Sitting around the RBA board table is Stephen Kennedy, the

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<v Speaker 3>Treasury Secretary and good friend of Jim Chalmers, and you'd

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<v Speaker 3>imagine he would have been arguing.

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<v Speaker 2>Strongly for a cut.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only would this boost Albanese's electoral chances, but also

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<v Speaker 3>fascinating research shows that the suburbs worst hit by rising

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<v Speaker 3>mortgages are in labor electorates. This is research from the

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<v Speaker 3>Parliamentary Library. It was commissioned by the Coalition and it

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<v Speaker 3>shows that twelve of the fifteen most impacted suburbs are

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<v Speaker 3>in labour seats, and these include Salisbury and Adelaide, where

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<v Speaker 3>mortgage repayments increased from six hundred and seventy nine dollars

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<v Speaker 3>to two thousand, one hundred and seventeen. You can just

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<v Speaker 3>imagine how those families would be struggling. Then Bayswater in

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<v Speaker 3>the l seat of Perth, where the monthly mortgage rose

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and nine percent to two thousand, three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and thirty five dollars a month. And Woodridge in Jim

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<v Speaker 3>Chalmer's seat of Rancord, where repayments have increased by one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy three percent. But all Australians have felt

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<v Speaker 3>this pain. In total, Australians have had more than thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>rate hikes, and twelve of those were under Albanizi. And

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<v Speaker 3>you remember how Albanizi blamed Scott Morrison for that first

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<v Speaker 3>rate hike back in the twenty twenty two election campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it doesn't take responsibility now for the other twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>And remember Australia is steel and has been in a

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<v Speaker 3>per capita recession.

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<v Speaker 2>For two years.

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<v Speaker 3>A family with a typical mortgage will have spent fifty

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars more on mortgage repayments since Albanzi came to government.

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<v Speaker 3>That's according to Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor, who made the

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<v Speaker 3>point today the prices just aren't going to come down

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<v Speaker 3>anytime soon now.

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<v Speaker 7>Labour's own forecasts. Labour's own forecasts don't get us back

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<v Speaker 7>to the living standards that they inherited back when they

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<v Speaker 7>won the election in twenty twenty two. They don't get

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<v Speaker 7>us back to those living standards until twenty thirty with

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<v Speaker 7>further downgrades today, it's a long way back.

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<v Speaker 3>Treasurer Jim Charmers of Cost celebrated the rate cut and

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<v Speaker 3>indicated the end is in sight for the cost of

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<v Speaker 3>living crisis.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a demonstration of the progress that Australians have made

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<v Speaker 8>together in this fight against inflation. Now that progress that

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<v Speaker 8>we've made has been substantial, it is now sustained and

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<v Speaker 8>it's reflected in the decision taken by the Reserve Bank today. Now,

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<v Speaker 8>when we came to office, inflation and interest rates were rising.

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<v Speaker 8>Now both are falling. This is the softle that we

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<v Speaker 8>have been planning for and preparing.

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<v Speaker 3>For, and you'll hear more of that messaging as the

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<v Speaker 3>election campaign officially gets underway. But this rate comes despite

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<v Speaker 3>some economists warning that yes, while headline inflation is now

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<v Speaker 3>within the IRBAS two to three percent target, this is

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<v Speaker 3>because it has been artificially lowered by Labour's cost of

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<v Speaker 3>living subsidies. This is only temporary and headline inflation is

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<v Speaker 3>expected to rise back above target when the subsidies stop

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<v Speaker 3>and underlying inflation is still above three percent, and economists

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<v Speaker 3>are concerned this decision could push back the fight against inflation.

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<v Speaker 3>It isn't yet over, as much as Albanezi would like

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<v Speaker 3>to wish it away.

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<v Speaker 9>Michelle Bullet was very keen to note, actually there is

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<v Speaker 9>a scenario by where if we get things wrong here,

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<v Speaker 9>we might have to raising distrats again and that really

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<v Speaker 9>would be bad for the Reserve Bank's credibility, so quite

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<v Speaker 9>clearly very bad for Australia's economy as well.

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<v Speaker 10>This would have been a bit of a knife edged

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<v Speaker 10>decision for her, and you can read in the statement indeed,

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<v Speaker 10>that she's forecasting that it's not going to necessarily be

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<v Speaker 10>the case that this is the first of several rates

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<v Speaker 10>drops this year.

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<v Speaker 3>So as you just heard there from Ross Greenwood explaining

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<v Speaker 3>her decision, Michelle Bullock said that this rate cut doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean further relief his coming, and that was a curious comment.

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<v Speaker 2>So here she was again today.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't say one and done. What I can say

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<v Speaker 4>is that we've done one. We've removed a bit of restrictiveness.

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<v Speaker 4>We are still restrictive, and we are waiting for more

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<v Speaker 4>evidence that we're getting inflation sustain to be black in

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<v Speaker 4>the band before we are willing to move again.

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<v Speaker 3>Former Treasury Assistant Secretary David Pearl. He'll be on the

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<v Speaker 3>show tonight and his view is that this RBA cut

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<v Speaker 3>is premature. He says, if it needs to be reversed,

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<v Speaker 3>then our inflation problem will be worse and the credibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the RBA will be in tatters.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, make no mistake, this decision today will play into

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<v Speaker 3>the election timing, and Albinizi is now poised to call.

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<v Speaker 2>The federal election imminently.

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<v Speaker 3>Most likely it'll be held in early April, a poll

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<v Speaker 3>that for many can't come soon enough. Okay, let's continue

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<v Speaker 3>now our expose over the toxic culture and racism in

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<v Speaker 3>the Australian healthcare sector, and tonight we can reveal new

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<v Speaker 3>instances of shocking antisemitism by Australian doctors who've shared posts

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<v Speaker 3>encouraging radicalization, denying rapes of women on October seven in Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>and even defending her musk taking hostages. I mean, every

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<v Speaker 3>day this gets worse. One GP who works in Bankstown

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<v Speaker 3>reposted on Instagram Palestine will never die. Have faith in

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<v Speaker 3>the resistance and in the resilience.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the Palestinian people.

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<v Speaker 3>Another post also encourages radicalization, saying let this radicalize you

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<v Speaker 3>rather than lead you to despair, with a picture of

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<v Speaker 3>a masked terrorist. And here's yet another post from this

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<v Speaker 3>Bangstown GP of a terrorist holding a weapon. Then another

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<v Speaker 3>GP who presents a very family friendly image will She

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<v Speaker 3>denies that women were raped on October seven, she claimed incorrectly,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm quoting her post here. No women have come

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<v Speaker 3>forward about rape, despite many public calls. She also supports

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<v Speaker 3>boycotting of Israel and tells people to call their super

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<v Speaker 3>fund to divest from Israeli companies.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a GP.

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<v Speaker 3>She shared a post claiming October seven was a prison break,

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<v Speaker 3>and in this post she said that the Israeli state

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<v Speaker 3>began as Britain and the Allies cruel experiment in apartheid

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<v Speaker 3>for millions of Palestinian people, she writes, And you wonder

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<v Speaker 3>why they fight back? Why her mus the Palestinian Liberation

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<v Speaker 3>organizations and other militia and political organizations formed in response

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<v Speaker 3>to Israeli's incursions. Now, I don't need to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>that this is an egregious reframing of history and it's

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<v Speaker 3>clear support for terrorist groups that have slaughtered entire innocent families.

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<v Speaker 3>This GP, as I said, presents with a family friendly image,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's even a children's author. This is highly dangerous

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<v Speaker 3>and inflammatory stuff. And here's another doctor, this one in

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales, who says, and I quote, Zionists will

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<v Speaker 3>not be welcome apart from a few spots around the

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<v Speaker 3>globe after this war. And this doctor justifies her Musk

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<v Speaker 3>taking Israeli hostages. He writes, I'm quoting here, you can

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<v Speaker 3>see it. Her Musk just wanted to get some Palestinians

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<v Speaker 3>back from a legal detention, so they took their own hostages.

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<v Speaker 3>This doctor justifying the fact that women and children, and

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<v Speaker 3>even a nine month old baby, baby Kafir, now presumed dead,

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<v Speaker 3>was taken hostage. This is sick and he's another denier.

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<v Speaker 2>He writes.

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<v Speaker 3>Many of the allegations about Hermas's actions on October seventh

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<v Speaker 3>are not supported by evidence. Now the evidence is there

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<v Speaker 3>categorically for the world to see. How can a doctor

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<v Speaker 3>like this treat patience with any credibility? How can he

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<v Speaker 3>hold a medical license if he's so delusional?

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<v Speaker 2>This is frightening.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the subject of a complaint to the Healthcare

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<v Speaker 3>Complaints Commission that h triple C, yet they.

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<v Speaker 2>Took no action.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got their letter tonight, and in fact, in their

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<v Speaker 3>letter of response they admit they didn't go to him

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<v Speaker 3>for a comment about this. Doesn't sound like a very

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<v Speaker 3>thorough investigation to me, the h TRIPC said in their letter.

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<v Speaker 3>The Commission acknowledges the upset caused by anti Semitic and

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<v Speaker 3>racist comments posted on social media. However, we have been

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<v Speaker 3>unable to establish conduct concerns at this time. This is

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<v Speaker 3>because we understand that the current situation regarding Israel and

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<v Speaker 3>Gaza is complex and individuals may express differing opinions as

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<v Speaker 3>well as exercise free speech. This is pathetic and weak

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<v Speaker 3>from the regulator. How can they take no action against

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<v Speaker 3>a medical practitioner who denies that women were raped, who

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<v Speaker 3>makes excuses for hamas and even defends the taking of hostage.

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<v Speaker 3>It's utterly inexplicable and it's an indictment on the h

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<v Speaker 3>Triple C. Then have a look at this GP in

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<v Speaker 3>Brisbane who engaged in some classic anti Semitic tropes, writing

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<v Speaker 3>on social media that the Zionist mafia that controls the world.

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<v Speaker 3>No surprise, they talk like gangsters, the actual mob. And

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<v Speaker 3>she also said, and I'm quoting, and Zionists still play

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<v Speaker 3>the anti Symitic card when Islamophobia is way more of

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<v Speaker 3>an issue. Wish I had due privilege, Wow, due privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>And right outside the RPA hospital in Sydney, social media

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<v Speaker 3>footage shows a pro Palestinian protest where there were accusations

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<v Speaker 3>of genocide.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine how uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>That would have made Jewish patients and staff feel. Now

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<v Speaker 3>we could be here all night. There are so many

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<v Speaker 3>examples and this problem is clear systemic, with doctors and

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<v Speaker 3>nurses being able to bring their racism to work, and

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<v Speaker 3>this leaves Jewish patients vulnerable. Now I've been inundated with

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<v Speaker 3>anti Semitic instances in the past few days. Kelly Sloane,

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<v Speaker 3>she was on the show last night. She said she

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<v Speaker 3>had as well. And my understanding is that the health Minister,

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan Park, you're in New South Wales, has also received

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<v Speaker 3>many people complaining about their experiences. And I suggested today

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<v Speaker 3>to Ryan Park that he set up, as I said

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<v Speaker 3>on the show last night, he should set up a

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<v Speaker 3>hotline or an inquiry to examine all of these instances.

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<v Speaker 2>He said to me today that he was open to

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<v Speaker 2>the idea.

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<v Speaker 3>He understands the issue, and he told me he's thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about the best way to deal with this. He's on it.

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<v Speaker 3>He wants it to be dealt with in a timely manner.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't want to drag it on with long inquiry,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's trying to work out the best process. But

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<v Speaker 3>quite clearly, one of the issues that needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>examined whether it's by the state so the federal government,

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<v Speaker 3>is how APRA and other medical regulators, how the a

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<v Speaker 3>Triple ce handles this as well. And meanwhile, tomorrow morning

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<v Speaker 3>it will be a week since this video went viral.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's say an Israeli go for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to treat them, luck to them.

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<v Speaker 6>You have no idea how many Israeli had a dog

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<v Speaker 6>came to this hospital and me too.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet still New South Wales police and the AFP

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<v Speaker 3>haven't pressed charges against the two Bankstown nurses despite their

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<v Speaker 3>clear hate speech. Now I talk about this with Hollywood

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<v Speaker 3>actor Nate Buzz a bit later in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what he told me today.

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<v Speaker 5>The Australian government is scared to push this through the

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<v Speaker 5>legal system because if these two people are charged and

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<v Speaker 5>found guilty, of what they've done. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to open up Pandora's box into every other anti Semitic

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<v Speaker 5>member of the Arab Islamic community in Australia who have

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<v Speaker 5>been allowed to spew hate for fifteen months now.

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<v Speaker 3>If police don't take action here, then the hate speech

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<v Speaker 3>laws are not worth the paper they're written on and

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<v Speaker 3>there will be an ouproar from all Australians. Right joining

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<v Speaker 3>me now, former Speaker of the House Bronwin Bishop and

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<v Speaker 3>Liberal Senator Holly Hughes.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to you both.

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<v Speaker 3>And Holly, you actually get to question Opera in Senate

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<v Speaker 3>Estimates next week?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that writer? Are you going to be asking them

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<v Speaker 2>about some of this?

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<v Speaker 1>As long as estimates goes ahead next week we will

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<v Speaker 1>be hearing from Opera, and certainly as a committee, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should be writing to them to find out

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<v Speaker 1>what their response to this is. This is extraordinary that

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<v Speaker 1>within our healthcare system, people that are supposed to provide

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<v Speaker 1>care regardless of who is in front of them, it's

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<v Speaker 1>part of their oaths to do that, that this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of hate and bile is being allowed to be spewed

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere over social media. You can only imagine how uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be for any Jewish patients of those gps

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<v Speaker 1>or doctors or concerns that the Jewish community must now

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<v Speaker 1>have presenting anywhere. Some of these seem to be in

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<v Speaker 1>certain areas of Sydney. I don't know where the GP

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<v Speaker 1>in Brisbane is based, but you know, our areas are

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<v Speaker 1>not completely homogenous or get always totally. They're doing their

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<v Speaker 1>best in some areas and they're just very well. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a Jewish patient that needs to attend Bankstown Hospital and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I'd be too confident if I was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, there's an Instagram account that's been that has

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<v Speaker 3>set up. It's anonymous that has a lot of examples

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<v Speaker 3>on it. It's called not my Doctor. And you just

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<v Speaker 3>have to think that if you're going to see a

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<v Speaker 3>specialist who you don't know in the future, if you're Jewish,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be wanting to check their social media

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<v Speaker 3>because these doctors feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough putting it there in black and white.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm going to return with Jeorgie Crozier that she's

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<v Speaker 3>the shadow health Minister in Victoria. I'm going to return

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<v Speaker 3>to speak about this with her in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get back to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Rates decision today, now, Bronwin, this is clearly it's unclear

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<v Speaker 3>whether there is a strong enough case for the rates cut.

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<v Speaker 3>Economists have different views. I've got two on the show tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's clear that this is what the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 3>was hoping for and there was a lot of pressure

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<v Speaker 3>put on the RBA board.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, there was a campaign run and unfortunately for the

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<v Speaker 11>head of the RBA, who I've had a high regard

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<v Speaker 11>for because she's been strong, but irrespective of whether she's

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<v Speaker 11>still being strong, it has the appearance of there being

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<v Speaker 11>political interference and that's bad for the RBA. If you

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<v Speaker 11>look at the reality, the underlying inflation rate is still

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<v Speaker 11>at three point two percent, but the statement was it

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<v Speaker 11>is expected to be between two and three percent if

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<v Speaker 11>you project forward. But every other statement has been well

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<v Speaker 11>we're not there yet, and you look backwards and you say,

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<v Speaker 11>well it hasn't happened yet. So quite clearly Albaneze he

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<v Speaker 11>wants to have an election. I've said all along issue.

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<v Speaker 11>He wanted to go in December and lost his nerve.

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<v Speaker 11>But the long ward goes on without something, the worse

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<v Speaker 11>it gets for them. So he is going to try

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<v Speaker 11>and have this as quickly as he can, there will

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<v Speaker 11>be no budget. And when I watched again, as the

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<v Speaker 11>expression I use with regard to the snake charm of

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<v Speaker 11>the treasurer, he flaps the lips and nothing meaningful comes out.

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<v Speaker 11>This is for soft landing. We were planning. Really, you

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<v Speaker 11>also planned the twelve increases, did you? And the time

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<v Speaker 11>that you've been the treasure of this country, there is

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<v Speaker 11>nothing that they have done that could have curbed back

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<v Speaker 11>that inflation. They have spent three hundred and forty seven

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<v Speaker 11>billion dollars extra, which is pushed inflation along instead of

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<v Speaker 11>being cut back earlier. And together with the industrial relations

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<v Speaker 11>laws and the push where the government has actually increased

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<v Speaker 11>wages whereby they get more but they could buy less,

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<v Speaker 11>the country's economy has been run badly. And that's the fact,

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<v Speaker 11>and it has to be laid out clearly.

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<v Speaker 3>That comment from the governor Michelle Bullock where she said

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<v Speaker 3>there was heated debate arguments foreign against Look, it shows, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they eventually arrived at a decision, but it shows the

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<v Speaker 3>case wasn't obvious for a rate cut. And we don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know what her personal position was on this.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't know what the vote was and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who landed where and what thewhelming number was

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<v Speaker 1>in support of the rake Hut. I have never seen

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<v Speaker 1>a rake hut so hyped as today, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary the number of people who were tuning in to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. I was watching it and I think Ross,

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually mentioned it to my husband and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I've ever sat around a TV waiting to see

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<v Speaker 1>what an RBA decision was. I mean, normally they come

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<v Speaker 1>in when we're sitting in question time, but I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Ross greenway't say I've never seen the anticipation around this

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<v Speaker 1>possible rate cut or not. And you can hear the

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<v Speaker 1>political campaign charging behind it, and Jim Chalmers came out

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday saying to his MPs, don't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was doing Pete Stefanovic with Matt fi Waite

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<v Speaker 1>and he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, so he's the red rag to a bull.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Matt had the most ridiculous answer, but Dove

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<v Speaker 1>ride in on the issue, and you know, they were

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<v Speaker 1>putting so much pressure on the RBA. I'm very concerned

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<v Speaker 1>that Australians may take this as the start of more

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<v Speaker 1>rate cuts to come. When going it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be but you and I and Brow when we all

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<v Speaker 1>watch all the news, we were sitting at home watching

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<v Speaker 1>the rate cut. If you're busy cooking dinner for the

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<v Speaker 1>family and getting the lunches ready for tomorrow while the

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<v Speaker 1>washing machine's going in the background, you're not sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>and listening to the full statement of Michelle Bully. You

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, you think, Wow, things are starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>a bit easier. If it doesn't come through, if the

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<v Speaker 1>inflation rate doesn't get between three, and we find that

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<v Speaker 1>it goes up again, the rates go back, you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these families are going to get an

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<v Speaker 1>almighty shock all over again. And it's and I heard

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<v Speaker 1>Ross say today, you've got to ring your bank to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for the rate cart.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't just assume it's coming.

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<v Speaker 11>People.

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<v Speaker 1>Ring your bank tomorrow and tell them you want the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Sit on hold for two hours. Yeah, nothing worse. And

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<v Speaker 2>what you're going to say, bro, We're.

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<v Speaker 11>Not going to bring down your basket when you go

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<v Speaker 11>to the supermarket.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly down again. It stays at that used to.

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<v Speaker 11>Be five dollars, it's now seven dollars thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going back.

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<v Speaker 3>To five dollars And not to mention the egg shortage

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment as well. Speaking speak of supermarkets. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>let's have a look at this story. The Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 3>has denied that the spin doctors at Labry HQ are

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<v Speaker 3>peddling misinformation with this latest medi scare attempted.

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<v Speaker 12>He said on The Insider the program on ABC on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 12>There'll be cats, but he won't tell you what they

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<v Speaker 12>are until after the election. We know last time he

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<v Speaker 12>went after health and wanted to trash Medicare.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, there is no question labor original clip was highly

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<v Speaker 3>misleading of Peter Duttan's comments. Let's have a look if

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<v Speaker 3>we have it at that original clip.

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<v Speaker 13>We're very clear about this. Medicare is dead. They can't

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<v Speaker 13>be for free. We have to pay for a world

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<v Speaker 13>class medical system. We are determined to send a price

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<v Speaker 13>signal so that we can move away from the view

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<v Speaker 13>that everything can be for free in health in this

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<v Speaker 13>country because it can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Be authorized by pter Erickson alp camera.

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<v Speaker 13>So the government is determined to make sure that Medicare

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<v Speaker 13>is sustainable.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, holly, he said the exact opposite.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the coalition left government bought billing rates were

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<v Speaker 1>at eighty eight percent under this labor government that's apparently

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<v Speaker 1>so fixated on ensuring Medicare is strong, and they've done

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<v Speaker 1>all of this apparently for bolt billing, bult billing is

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<v Speaker 1>now at seventy seven percent, So for twenty three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of Australians they have zero access to bulk billing doctors

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And in fact, there is not one seat

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<v Speaker 1>in the country that has not seen a decline in

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<v Speaker 1>bulk billing rates. But I think this is more evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact they have no good story to tell,

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<v Speaker 1>they have nothing positive to say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all going to be fear.

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<v Speaker 1>Mongering and scare campaigns. And I've always said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to make Peter Dutton as unlikable as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at Liberal leaders that have won the

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<v Speaker 1>prime ministership, we haven't had that many that have been

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<v Speaker 1>seen as the popular guy you want to go have

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<v Speaker 1>a beer with. People want to elect someone who's a

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<v Speaker 1>strong leader, who's going to take charge, who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make decisions, be decisive and stand by them, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to the I know, you know what they see

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<v Speaker 1>is what they get.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want someone to go have a beer and

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<v Speaker 1>a barbecue with. They don't want dj Albow who's clearly

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<v Speaker 1>made a complete mess of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Popular leader we had was Malcolm Turnbull and look how

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<v Speaker 1>well that went.

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<v Speaker 2>Not very good point.

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<v Speaker 3>We're nearly out of time, but very quickly, Brian, when

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<v Speaker 3>what's your view on this?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, very simply, the Labor Party is very good at

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<v Speaker 11>telling lies, it's not very good at running the country.

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<v Speaker 11>And if we look back through the campaigns that they

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 11>run previously, you see plenty of it. They tried it

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 11>in the election against Malcolm Turnbull. They're trying the same

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<v Speaker 11>argument they're trying against Peter Dutton to do. But at

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<v Speaker 11>the end of the day, the points that Holly just

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<v Speaker 11>made about looking for a strong leader is perfectly true.

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<v Speaker 11>People want some they can depend upon. And when we

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<v Speaker 11>see Albanezi out there under pressure, as she'll be this time,

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<v Speaker 11>they can't send him off for a week's COVID lead

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<v Speaker 11>because he's stuffed up, Because he will stuff up. Because

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<v Speaker 11>I say, again and again, nobody ever said he was

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<v Speaker 11>leadership material when I served in that chamber for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 11>And here is the proof in the eating was.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, all right, from a Bishop poly. Here's great for Shure.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, last night I spoke about doctor Mohammad Ghilan. He

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<v Speaker 3>has worked at Alfred Hospital in Melbourne until just three

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<v Speaker 3>months ago. This is despite his highly offensive social media

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<v Speaker 3>posts saying live like sinoa or die trying and I

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<v Speaker 3>am harmas they are harmas we are all hermas. Now

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't sacked, he was stood down while there was

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<v Speaker 3>an investigation taking place by the Alfred and then he resigned.

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<v Speaker 3>Victorian Shadow Health Minister Jeorgie Crazier joins me. Now, Jeorji,

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<v Speaker 3>great have you on the show. Look, Gilan is still

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<v Speaker 3>a registered medical practitioner. We can't see that the police

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<v Speaker 3>have taken any action here. How is this possible?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, Shari, you highlighted just the extreme nature of that

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<v Speaker 14>doctor's posts and I think that is an enormous concern.

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<v Speaker 14>And I've heard you raise the issue around our pro

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<v Speaker 14>the regulator. They've not doing the role that they should

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<v Speaker 14>be regulating doctors and they've just foregone those responsibilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly, this should not be happening.

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<v Speaker 14>These are really serious claims made by this individual. And

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<v Speaker 14>if he's still got his practicing registration, goodness knows where

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<v Speaker 14>he will end up next in Victorian hospitals, and I

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<v Speaker 14>think that should be concerned to not only every Victorian,

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<v Speaker 14>but every Australian.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, his is a very extreme example, but there are

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<v Speaker 3>other similar extreme examples that we've spoken about tonight and

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 3>last night in Brisbane and Sydney and Melbourne, even in Wa.

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>This is right across the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think Mark Butler has done enough, especially considering

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<v Speaker 3>more than two hundred and sixty doctors wrote to him

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<v Speaker 3>in October twenty twenty three asking him to take action.

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<v Speaker 14>No, there's just been a lack of leadership around this

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<v Speaker 14>whole issue, Shari. And as we know, there's been doctors

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 14>that have written to the federal Health Minister. I've had

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 14>doctors that have reached out to me. I've had other

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 14>people that have reached out to me expressing their concerns

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<v Speaker 14>about what is happening in Melbourne hospitals. I'm really concerned

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 14>about that. In fact, I'm alarmed about it. I can't

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<v Speaker 14>believe what has gone on when they have spoken to me.

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<v Speaker 2>This has just been a.

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<v Speaker 14>Leadership void at the federal level, at the state level.

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<v Speaker 14>Today in the State Parliament, I was calling on the

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<v Speaker 14>minister to provide guidelines for Victorian hospitals because we just

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<v Speaker 14>can't have this sort of activity and this activism happening

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<v Speaker 14>in our hospitals. They're meant to be safe places for

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 14>people when they're most vulnerable. They're most vulnerable and they're

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 14>sick and needing surgery and care. So I just think

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<v Speaker 14>this is appalling and there's been a lack of leadership

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<v Speaker 14>right from Mark but the Prime Minister down to the

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<v Speaker 14>Premier and the Health Minister here in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this has all come to light because of

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<v Speaker 3>the Bankstown nurses scandal a week ago, which was just

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<v Speaker 3>so shocking, But you think this has been bubbling under

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 3>the surface for sixteen months now. It hasn't been given

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 3>proper political attention, it has been given proper media attention.

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 3>And you just think of some of these doctors. I mean,

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 3>imagine going to them as a Jewish patient. I showed

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 3>the post from one doctor last night saying that she

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 3>fears seeing Jewish names on her new patient list. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>how can this be Australia right now?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, it jolted me into realizing the extent of it

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 14>when that video came out last week.

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<v Speaker 2>I was absolutely.

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<v Speaker 14>Appalled and horrified like most reasonable Australians, it just was

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<v Speaker 14>just shocking and to think that that's happening in hospitals

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<v Speaker 14>where they're meant to be safe havens for people so

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<v Speaker 14>to be Jewish, and I know the stories that have

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<v Speaker 14>happened here in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 8>They have concerned me.

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<v Speaker 14>Jewish patients and Jewish doctors and Jewish nurses should not

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<v Speaker 14>be subjected to what they're being subjected to.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 14>And we've had a real lack of leadership from hospitals,

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<v Speaker 14>from governments and from the regulator and all of those components,

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<v Speaker 14>every single one of them need to do better so

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<v Speaker 14>that this doesn't continue to happen in Australia, in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 14>in New South Wales, or in Victoria anywhere across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>It just shouldn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. It's the same issue ever. All right, Georgie,

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<v Speaker 3>great to have you on, Thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 3>your time. Now still to come, we're going to talk

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 3>about the rate cut again and whether the RBA was

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<v Speaker 3>bullied into this decision. Treasury Assistant Secretary David Pearl.

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<v Speaker 2>Would join me next. Plus is Ready.

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<v Speaker 3>Content creator Max Veiefer has spoken out about how police

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 3>have handled the horrific video.

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood actor Nate buzz would join me with his reactions.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back, Well, let's return to today's rate cut. Welcome

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 3>news for mortgage shoulders across the country. And let's bring

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<v Speaker 3>in now former Treasury Assistant Secretary David Pearl. David, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you very much for your time and an excellent article

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 3>in The Australian yesterday. By the way, we spoke about

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 3>it here on the show last night. Look in your view,

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 3>has the RBA caved into political pressure or do you

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<v Speaker 3>think there was a strong case for a rate cut.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for having me on, Sharhi. My view is that

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<v Speaker 6>there was not a strong case for a rate cut,

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<v Speaker 6>and I based that on the test Michelle Bullok and

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<v Speaker 6>her board set for themselves some time ago to be

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<v Speaker 6>met before a rate cut should happen, and that was

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<v Speaker 6>as you know, that they are confident that inflation has

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<v Speaker 6>returned sustainably to its two to three point band, and

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<v Speaker 6>that test is not meant. There are three factors, Shari.

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<v Speaker 6>One headline inflation, as everybody knows, is still above three percent.

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 6>We've had one quarter of inflation that came in below expectations.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 6>But one swallow doesn't make a summer. Secondly, the labor

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 6>market is gaining strength, Employment is growing strongly, vacancy is arising,

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 6>So there's no sign that the restriction in the rates

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 6>is slowing labor market activity. And Thirdly, there's the massive

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 6>uncertainty associated with Donald Trump his threats of trade lars.

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 6>The US FED has lost confidence in its own inflation

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 6>strategy and a signal that it's not going to cut

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<v Speaker 6>So for those reasons, based on the tests that Michelle

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 6>Bullock said, there was not a strong case. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think it was even a lineball decision.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really interesting to hear you say that. So

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<v Speaker 3>would a public campaign that political pressure have played into this.

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<v Speaker 3>And we know that the Treasury Secretary sits on the board,

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<v Speaker 3>so what sort of influence would he have in these discussions.

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<v Speaker 6>I've spent part of my career sharias and assistant secretary

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<v Speaker 6>briefing a former Treasury Secretary for his participation in the board.

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 6>I've read hundreds of Treasury minutes up to the secretary,

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 6>previous secretaries putting the whole weight of Treasuries expertise behind

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 6>them to influence the board. Wow, so unlike every other

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 6>o these serious country which does not allow political actors

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 6>or people who report to politicians and serve at the

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 6>pleasure of politicians to make monetary policy decisions.

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<v Speaker 15>We do.

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<v Speaker 6>And to me, having lived and worked in the US

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<v Speaker 6>and spoken about this to American central bankers, I've just

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<v Speaker 6>found it remarkable now. In the past that influence was subtle,

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<v Speaker 6>But I think it's fair to say that Jim Chalmers

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<v Speaker 6>and Stephen Kennedy have not been subtle over the past

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 6>six months to one year. I've written about it in

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 6>The Australian. Stephen Kennedy, for example, is very close to

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 6>Ross Garno. He's worked with him, he's friends with him.

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 6>They share the same views on inflation and Ross Garno

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<v Speaker 6>bullied Michelle Bullock late last year and the Financial Reviewers

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, revealed that rang up their op ed editor

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 6>to demand that his piece pretty much insisting on a

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 6>rate cut last December be published, so to influence Bullock.

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 6>So there may be no connection with Stephen Kennedy, but

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 6>I think that he was a voice for cutting in

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<v Speaker 6>the board, whether he genuinely I'm sure he genuinely believes that,

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 6>but there's no mistake that that's what his boss wants.

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 6>And then secondly, he has labor lined economists who is

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<v Speaker 6>close to been beating the drum constantly. So for me,

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<v Speaker 6>it hasn't been subtle. And I think that, more than

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 6>anything else, has really shown this decision to be a

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 6>political capitulation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad you're on the show tonight because that

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 3>is the most fascinating insight of how a Treasury secondary

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 3>can wield influence on the board, especially if they are

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 3>highly political, as you say.

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<v Speaker 13>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Michelle Bullok said publicly today herself that there was she

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 3>used the word heated, but that there was rigorous discussion

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 3>and debate about whether there should be a rate cut.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 3>So that indicates that absolutely wasn't a unanimous view on

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 3>the board, at least initially.

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 2>They might have arrived at one.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's also signals, doesn't it, that there wasn't an

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.720
<v Speaker 3>obvious case for a cut.

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<v Speaker 6>Not at all. And in fact, I read the RBA

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 6>board statement before I came on tonight, and if you

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 6>remove the references to the decision and just read the

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 6>economic data and analysis in that statement, nobody would believe

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 6>that the board was announcing a cut. The statement was

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 6>quite upfront. It said we've had one quarter of below

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 6>expectation inflation. It said that that's increased that confidence that

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 6>inflation is returning to target, not that it gives us confidence.

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.240
<v Speaker 6>And it's quite upfront about the labor market getting stronger

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 6>and the risks of inflation, potential inflation resurgent, getting more serious.

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 6>So if you take out the decision, I was staggered

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 6>because there's not a strong case at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So is this political interference? Could this be political interference?

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<v Speaker 6>Then well call me a cynic. But when I read

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 6>in the paper yesterday that Jim Chalmers was telling the

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 6>backbench to cool their horses, I thought, well, that shows

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 6>that he knows the fixers in And then when I

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 6>chuged on the television I saw that the cameras were

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 6>in the meeting room, I thought, well, Charmers or his

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 6>media people wanted that because they knew that there was

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 6>going to be a favorable decision. I have no evidence

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:04.760
<v Speaker 6>of that, but anybody that's savvy with how things operate

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 6>in Canberra wouldn't mistake that at all. So for me,

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 6>it's a political capitulation. Even if it isn't, it has

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 6>the appearance of one. And as I said, we've got

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 6>a flawed board structure where we have the treasury sectory

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 6>there that's not acknowledged for some reason by the media.

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 6>It's a bit like Anthony Fauci Shahi. T is an

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 6>example that will appeal to you. Appointing a board to

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 6>advise him on the origins of COVID and having his

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 6>right hand man on it. Would you accept for a

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 6>moment the integrity of that recommendation or would you have

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 6>question marks?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we've been reporting it on the show tonight, the

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 3>fact that he's on there and last night, David Pearl,

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 3>you are brilliant. I'm so glad you came in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>They were invaluable in sits. Thank you for your time. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>coming up after the break, Hollywood actor Nate Buzz will

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 3>criticize the lack of police police action. Plus we'll return

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 3>to the RBA later in the hour with the view.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Warren Hogan. Stay tuned, Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 11>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>A few hours ago, the Israeli content creator Max Viifa,

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 3>who was at the center of that Bangstown video, posted

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 3>this to his Instagram page. I hope the police are

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 3>doing everything they can to bring the truth to light.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:19.280
<v Speaker 2>The fight against these twenties.

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<v Speaker 9>Summis is just want battle.

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<v Speaker 6>We must stay united to face the challenges ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make Australia a safe place for Jewish people. We've

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:31.280
<v Speaker 2>had enough. The Jewish community in Australia had enough. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Max has sent the unedited video to police after I

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 3>helped him with the correct email address, because the police

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 3>send him the wrong email address. He's posted it to

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 3>his social media. He's sent in a police statement. But

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 3>yet the Daily Telegraph reports today that now police need

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 3>to travel to.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Israel to interview him.

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Police haven't confirmed that, but it seems utterly bizarre. They've

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 3>got the video, what else do they need now? I

0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 3>spoke to Hollywood actor Nate Buzz.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit earlier about all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, in this interview, you may notice that on his

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 3>jumper he's got the number five hundred on it. Well,

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 3>that's how many days it's been since the hostages were captured.

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Five hundred days in terrist captivity.

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Here he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Nate's so great to see you again. Look, it's been

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 3>a week. Tomorrow morning, it will be a week since

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 3>you played an important role in getting the Max Viva

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 3>video into the public domain. No charges laid in relation

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 3>to this. Yet just like there've basically been no convictions

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 3>for hate speech, despite the hate preachers, despite the aggressive

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 3>pro Palestinian protesters chanting hateful slogans.

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Do you think there seems to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be reluctance by law enforcement to actually use the laws

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:52.240
<v Speaker 3>available to them and stop the rise of antisemitism.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think the Australian government has a pretty good

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 5>understanding of how much hate speech, how much antisemitism, has

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 5>been voiced by those in the general Australian public over

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 5>the last fifteen months. I mean, eighth of October we

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 5>saw people gathering in front of the Sydney Opera House,

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 5>burning the Israeli flag, chanting some unspeakable things. What they

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<v Speaker 5>later claimed was saying where are the Jews? But what

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<v Speaker 5>very much seemed like they were saying, gas the Jews.

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<v Speaker 5>And that has just been the consistent every single weekend,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it's in Sydney or Melbourne, these protesters have gathered

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<v Speaker 5>and they have spewed out their vile hamas hate speech.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, and you know, I saw a representative of

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<v Speaker 5>the Australian government today, I can't remember her name, but

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 5>she was a Muslim representative trying to protect and shelter

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 5>and almost convince her audience that we're coming to We're

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 5>coming after these two nurses too hard, too strong, and

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 5>what they said was nothing more than a joke. And

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 5>what I would say to that comment is it couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>be further from the truth. In fact, everything that we've

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<v Speaker 5>heard from the Palestinian messaging is that everything those two

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<v Speaker 5>nurses said in that specific viral video is exactly in

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<v Speaker 5>line with what the pro Palestinian supporters have been saying

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 5>in Australia for the last fifteen months. Globaliz into Farta,

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 5>there is no solution into Fara revolution. These sort of

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 5>things are calling for violence against not only Israeli's but Jews,

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 5>and we've seen that. We've seen that with the graffiti

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 5>happening around Australia. We've seen that with the various attacks

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 5>on Jewish communities, including the firebombing in the synagogue in Melbourne,

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 5>the attack on the daycare center. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 5>alarming for Australia, Shari and I think the big picture

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 5>that we're seeing here is the Australian government is scared

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 5>to push this through the legal system because if these

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 5>two people are charged and found guilty of what they've done.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's going to open up Pandora's box into

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<v Speaker 5>every other anti Semitic member of the Arab Islamic community

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<v Speaker 5>in Australia who have been allowed to spew hate for

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen months.

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Pandora's box is already being opened. Last night

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<v Speaker 3>on my show, I had so many more examples of

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 3>doctors who are openly praising Hamas more again tonight, even

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 3>doctors who say they fear seeing Jewish names on their

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 3>patient list. I mean, these aren't sentiments they're uttering behind

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 3>closed doors. They're literally putting this on their social media accounts.

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 3>It's so transparent, and yet again authorities aren't taking any action.

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 3>These are registered health professionals. Again, why the reluctance to

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 3>actually address this.

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<v Speaker 5>We have a radicalization problem in Australia, no doubt about it.

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 5>We have radical Islamic ideologies that have infiltrated Australia, that

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 5>have been allowed to live and breathe in our communities

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 5>without being addressed. I think that comes down to our

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 5>immigration issues, and I think the Australian government is scared

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 5>to take a strong stand here. I think they realize

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 5>they're in over their heads and they really have to

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 5>make a choice. They're going to have to make a

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 5>choice whether they are going to back jihadest humas ideology

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 5>or they're going to stand with a nation that would

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 5>be considered an ally some fifteen months ago and actually

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 5>support the Israeli Jewish community that also calls Australia home. Sadly,

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 5>from what I've seen from both Albanesi and definitely Penny Wong,

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 5>is that they are leaning towards a support of radical

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 5>Islamic ideologies and what we're seeing in Europe, what we're

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 5>seeing around the world is going to reach our doorsteps

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 5>faster than we think if the Australian government doesn't come

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 5>hard down on these nurses and send a very very

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 5>strong message to the Arab Islamic world. Now here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>This is my concern, Shari. Australian government is worried about

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 5>offending the Muslim community. They're scared of Islamophobia, which they

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 5>should be. Islamophobia is equally as bad as anti Semitism.

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 5>But I think they're more concerned about protecting the Muslim

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.800
<v Speaker 5>Arab population in Australia than they are protecting the Jewish

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 5>Israeli population. And that's what's concerning because I think both

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 5>groups should be treated equally. I think both groups should

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 5>be protected, and I don't think any group should have

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 5>the freedom to spew anti Semitic and vilification against the

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 5>nation of Israel. I have no problem with people criticizing Israel,

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 5>but there is a big difference between criticizing a nation

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 5>and vilifying them with the intended purpose to cause harm

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 5>to Jewish Australian citizens and having the freedom to get

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 5>away with it. And that's what it's coming down to.

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 5>And the Australian government knows that, they know that they

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 5>have allowed this to go on for so long, and

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 5>I don't think they're willing to pull this back. And

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 5>that's the scary part. I think what we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>see is a turn in the cohesion of this country

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 5>if we allow this divide to keep happening. I mean,

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 5>I've been tracking some of the nurses that work at

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:13.320
<v Speaker 5>Bankstown Hospital and just this week they've taken down their

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 5>pro Palestinian Instagram accounts on TikTok and Instagram. They're hiding

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 5>their evidence, they're trying to cover up what they've been

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 5>saying all along, because I think a lot of them

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 5>are scared. The Australian government needs to move on this

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 5>in a big way and it needs to happen now.

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Nate, you're not Jewish, but you've been so strong in

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 3>standing up against anti Semitism and in support of Israel.

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 3>What's your message to the Australian community right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think I'd like to say to the everyday

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:50.800
<v Speaker 5>Australian what may not seem significant right now, why should

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 5>I care about what's happening in Gaza and specifically Israel

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 5>Is Because what we've seen is despite the fact that

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 5>this is a problem that's happening in a country so

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 5>far from home, it's been brought to our doorstep. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think every single Australian should always think and stand

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 5>up for the minority. And the minority of all the

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.919
<v Speaker 5>minorities is the Jewish people. If you don't know, adew,

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 5>there's a reason why, because they're a small minority and

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 5>yet they've contributed so much to Australia. So I think

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 5>now's the time that every day Australians should actually take

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 5>a bold stand and say enough is enough. If you

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 5>want to be violent, you can go back to the

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 5>places where you're freely allowed to be violent in the

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 5>Middle East, and you can wage war on your villages

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 5>and the neighboring countries if you so wish, but that's

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.279
<v Speaker 5>not going to fly here in Australia. And I think

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 5>this is the moment of time that both every day

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 5>Australians and the government need to take a strong stance

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:45.879
<v Speaker 5>of this, and that starts with these two nurses. They

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 5>need to face the full force of the law otherwise

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 5>they're going to keep doing this.

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, police are going to be under increasing pressure over that.

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<v Speaker 11>All.

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<v Speaker 2>Right after the break, Warren Hogan.

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<v Speaker 3>Would join me to speak about today's rate cut that's

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<v Speaker 3>coming up in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's get the point of view of another economist

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 3>on whether there should have been a rate cut today.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining me now, EQ Economics chief economist Warren Hogan. Warren,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for your time. Look what's your view on this?

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Was there a big case, a strong case for a

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 3>rate cut?

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<v Speaker 15>No, not at all. The case is very weak and

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 15>I think it's a very risky action taken today by

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 15>the RBA board. What they've done is they've come out

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 15>today and said our economy needs more employment growth and

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 15>we are going to have because of that more inflation

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:43.800
<v Speaker 15>or we're going to extend this cost of living crisis.

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 15>They revised up their inflation forecast and they revised up

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:51.839
<v Speaker 15>their employment forecasts, So they're stimulating the economy while we're

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 15>still in the midst of a cost of living crisis.

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.760
<v Speaker 15>And I'm not sure that's the right judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it could push back against inflation?

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 15>Oh, it is, and they have indicated that by pushing

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.720
<v Speaker 15>up their inflation forecast, so the inflation is no longer

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 15>in their two or three year forecast, arise and returning

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 15>to the midpoint of the target band. It's only getting

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 15>down to two point seven. But even that doesn't take

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 15>into consideration all the risks that sit out there, whether

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 15>it's global or internal to Australia. So this is really,

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:29.319
<v Speaker 15>I think a real it's a really bad policy move,

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 15>and it's not only potentially going to be damaging to

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 15>our economy, but it's certainly got the high potential to

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 15>be damaging to the RBA's reputation, which has already taken

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 15>quite a hit in the pandemic with that that forward

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:42.800
<v Speaker 15>guidance that was misguided.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, we all have an opinion, but in your words,

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 3>why have they done this today, then.

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<v Speaker 15>Look, I mean it's obviously non economic factors, because I

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.399
<v Speaker 15>can't see why you'd want to stick more inflation into

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.280
<v Speaker 15>an economy like this, after all the inflation we've had.

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 15>The general political interpretation is that the RBA, if they

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 15>didn't cut today, because the expectation was so high that

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:10.240
<v Speaker 15>the pylon would be so great, and with this election

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 15>campaign coming, that it would just do more damage to

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 15>their reputation. And then the worst one, of course, is

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 15>that it was a direct order from the top from

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 15>the government via the Treasury Secretary that they want to

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 15>change the policy, the bent that is to have more

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 15>employment and more inflation.

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<v Speaker 3>Warren Hogan, thank you for your time. We're out of

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<v Speaker 3>time now. Everyone at home, do not miss tomorrow night's show.

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 3>I've got an exclusive interview with James Packer ahead of

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 3>our Anti Semitism summit.

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 2>James Packer on the show here tomorrow night. I'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you then. And here's Paul Murray