1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: This, here's a fancy podcast. If AI has already taken 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: your job as far as you're concerned, Tom Hayes, because 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: people I know, and we have many a discussion in 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: this studio, because we have quite polarizing feelings around it, 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: I think, can I just give you an example and 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: then we can continue the discussion about the fears and 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: how much you're worried about it taking your job. Thirteen 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: twenty four ten. There is a man. The interview that 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: I read was about a man called Colin Cassidy. He 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: was a voiceover artist, right, and he's been voice acting 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: and doing like working, doing lots of big campaigns. Has 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: worked for a very long time since the nineteen nineties, right. 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: I think though, when you do a lot of voiceovers, 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: your voice or what you've recorded doesn't necessarily belong to you. Anyway. 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Last year Colin receives an email and it says, we 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: will not require your services anymore. We've decided on a 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: new voice for this campaign or whatever. But the new 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: voice turns out to be not a new actor, but 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 1: an AI voice that is very like similar, like almost 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: a clone of what he sounded like. So they've kind 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: of got the same product a computer can do it now, 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: and he has basically been made redundant due to AI. 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: And it's saying that that look at most, what does 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: it say One in three Australians believe that their job 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: will disappear within five years due to technological or. 26 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Well, Colin should have jumped the gun onment and said, 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: you know. 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: I love your This is what you actually infuriate me 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: when you start this kind of chat. 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: For caring for Colin. 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: I'm actually caring for Colin because well, yes they has 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: so what he should be doing now is going Well, 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: you've just taken my voice and pumped it into a computer. 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: You put it into eleven Labs, you know, twenty seconds 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: of his voice to generate the same thing. You can 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: pay me a license fee for that. 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: Well that's what should be going on for Colin and Jess. 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: Snitchy just put something in recently of us on AI 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: which freaked him out, and I told him to make 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: it sound worse because it sounded too good. But you 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: can put our voices into the system and then it 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: comes up with a show, which Snitchy was like, dude, 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 4: you don't want. 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: To hear this. 46 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: No, I don't want to hear it either. Why we 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: even now? I wish I hadn't started this story. 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: Well, I'll find out from Snitchy where it is. But 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: we will. We will get it on. But remember I 50 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: had to. 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 4: I had to cut it about halfway through because it 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: sounded too good. 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: We're only a couple of years away. We're done. We're done. 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: That's no. 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: I hate Ai. I've always said that exactly. 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: You're a big You're a big fantomic because we've been 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: talking about the creativity, the lack of creativity. 58 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just look, it's great. 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 5: It'll be great for medicine, it'd be great for those 60 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 5: more menial tasks. I suppose an administration. But there's one 61 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 5: there's one quote that I like, which anois Whipper, which 62 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: is from someone who said, I want Ai to do 63 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 5: my laundry and dishes so that I can do art 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 5: and writing. Not for Ai to do my art and 65 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 5: writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. 66 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the art and writing might be the advancement 67 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: you can make with your art and writing is the 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: exciting part about it. So all of a sudden, the 69 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: writing that you want to do, you can have it 70 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: turned into ten many in different things. 71 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 5: Oh look, and there are certainly some wonderful things. But 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 5: we risk, we were risk not using our brains anymore. 73 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 5: We won't stretch our creativity exactly. 74 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: And isn't art and writing in here? It will pointing 75 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: to my heart like the art and writing comes from here. 76 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't need anything to that to evolve. 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: This is the scary thing, right, Knowledge has been Knowledge 78 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: is the thing that's made you money over the years. 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: So you go and study and you learn an occupation 80 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: and you it's the knowledge that you know that makes 81 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: you that money. But now with AI introduced. 82 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: Knowledge is free, mate. Knowledge is not a commodity anymo. 83 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: You need a different You need a special set of skills. 84 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: I find you maybe dancing. Have we got the AI 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: of this show. 86 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: I hope you're having a great afternoon. 87 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Today is International Radio Jay, So strap in for the 88 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: next two hours for radio radio. 89 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: That'll get you up for the weekend. 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: It's are you're saying that was better? 91 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: It was? 92 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: It was actually it was Actually it sounded really good. 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: And snitch he had to put those warbles and that 94 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: in there just to make it sound horrible. He said, Dude, 95 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 4: I don't think you want to hear this, but it 96 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 4: sounds exactly like your show. Well actually, well, actually Whipper 97 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 4: sounded twice as good, which was unbelievable. 98 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: Jokes that he. 99 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: Was producing would have trained on the history of me. 100 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: So thank you very much, Kylie. You feel your jobs under. 101 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 6: Threat onmographic designer and yeah, you get I get a 102 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 6: lot of clients who send me designs that they've had 103 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 6: chat GPT makeup and then they want me to print 104 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 6: them onto T shirts or hear them. 105 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: So what would normally happen. They'd ask you to do 106 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: the design based on what they're looking for. 107 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: There's one element, how boring is it just printing? Kylie? 108 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 4: The creative part is probably the exciting thing about your job. 109 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 6: It is, it is, And I've been doing this for 110 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 6: over thirty five years, so I've seen it really progress 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 6: in a lot of ways, through doing it by hand, 112 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 6: through to you know, but it's it's ugly too, and 113 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 6: some of the stuff that they send you it doesn't 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 6: work with the processes of traditional printing. 115 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: And even yeah, thanks Kylie. Yeah, Kylie, let's go to Bailey. 116 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: What's happened to you? Bailey? 117 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 4: Yeah? 118 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, Yeah, I do. So what used to be 119 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: having to sift through jobs and work out what they've 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: done and what's syllable. 121 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: It's now all just stop standard. 122 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: I just hit AI workout and it'll write up a slurb. 123 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 6: I've got to read it through and that's my job done. 124 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: But do you like so are you now? I mean 125 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 4: it makes your job easier, But are you worried that 126 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: it's going to get to a point where they go, well, Bailey, 127 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: we don't need you anymore one hundred percent. 128 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: The owners always like, yeah, are I putting you out 129 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 6: of a job? 130 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 131 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: See Tommy, you stand here with the whiteboard and you 132 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: write things down. See Chip could just look at the 133 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: run sheet and then prompt what's coming up next? Yeah, 134 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: oh my god, it's your last day this one. 135 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 4: We're going to have a robot in here who does 136 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: it easily similar to the doll that you have on 137 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: sitting on your couch at home, Tom, that could hold 138 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 4: up sort of hold up there and just as simple 139 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: as that. 140 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom's got a bit more animation. This is we're 141 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: bringing Kate podcasts for all great shows like this. Download 142 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: the Nova Player via the App Store or Google Play. 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 5: The Nova Player