WEBVTT - Fox Footy Podcast: Was that the best AFL round EVER?

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<v Speaker 1>The big footy issues from every angle, dissected by a

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<v Speaker 1>team that follows the game closer than anyone else wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you are around the planet. This is your ultimate guide

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<v Speaker 1>to the AFL. This is the Fox Footy Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we just witness the greatest round of AFL football

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<v Speaker 2>in the eighteen team era? Because it had it all?

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<v Speaker 2>Thriller's comebacks, heroic individual acts, heroic individual games, controversy and

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<v Speaker 2>big talking points, and yet we still have the same

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<v Speaker 2>eight teams in the top eight for the fourth consecutive week.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll discuss all that, plus dissect all the big issues

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<v Speaker 2>in pharophas and the mailbag, deep dive into the wisdom

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<v Speaker 2>of Kevin Sheedy and give you the expert tips all

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<v Speaker 2>on the Fox Footy Podcast. Ben Waterworth with you as

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<v Speaker 2>is demand. Coming off a roller coaster a few days

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<v Speaker 2>for expected score enthusiasts Max Lawd and Hello MAXI.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Ben. Yes, quite well, it turns out when.

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<v Speaker 2>Four of nine games sort of went against expected.

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<v Speaker 4>Score, Well, when you have a what average margin of

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<v Speaker 4>ten points blown out by the Melbourne Hawthorne game which

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<v Speaker 4>was not closer to three quarter thing exactly, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have a bunch of close ones that don't reflect what

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<v Speaker 4>actually happened, although Sidney Essendon was a weird one because

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<v Speaker 4>that was never close and expected score claims it was

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<v Speaker 4>you liar.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, so you're going agains six peop Well, there's not.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to analyze it. That's the point.

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<v Speaker 4>If I could just have expected Scorrey Gospel, I would

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<v Speaker 4>just put the numbers out and then not tweet. And

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<v Speaker 4>then what would I do if I couldn't tweet?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I also don't know what this man

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<v Speaker 2>would do if he couldn't tweet. The Sunday specialist David Geters,

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<v Speaker 2>it's good.

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<v Speaker 5>To be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to have you back.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been a hiatus.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, there might be a potential it might be like

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<v Speaker 3>a soft phase out of myself from the podcast intention

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<v Speaker 3>thinking Jamien barrass not intenarrett.

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<v Speaker 2>Mid two thousands footy show style.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh very yeah, it's not. It's not an intentional phase out.

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<v Speaker 5>I just noticed. I mean, when was the last on

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<v Speaker 5>here three weeks ago?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, wasn't it three episodes?

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<v Speaker 5>So it's gouty been up to just a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>work there going well there mate, and yeah, it's there's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the first time we've spoken in three weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>The wisdom, the wisdom of yes what the segment called no,

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<v Speaker 3>But that's Jared Jared Heally, Jared Whitey has that Robert

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Cradick. Yes, well, I think Crash crad experience are

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<v Speaker 3>pretty similar. To be honest, crashing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just try I'm thinking it's a very there's a definite.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a slight definition tweak in between the wisdom of

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Sheedy in this book that we're talking about and

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<v Speaker 2>the wisdom of rubbocratic things will.

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<v Speaker 5>For He's going, well, yes, yes, if people want him

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<v Speaker 5>on him instead of me, and you can message to

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<v Speaker 5>the big Malbourn.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you trying to get done? I'm saying, whatever, are

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<v Speaker 4>you walking into the coaches office? I can play what's best,

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just say yes.

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<v Speaker 5>It's real sort of pressed Duke who did that?

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<v Speaker 2>He did? Yes, Yes, that's ye.

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<v Speaker 3>Very interesting stuff. He said that Kevin's got a new

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<v Speaker 3>book coming. What didn't email about Kevin? She's like, there's

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<v Speaker 3>like five or six Sheety books.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's another one coming.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about the stories, the best stories off the field

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<v Speaker 3>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's a big part of it. Cover or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, very good, Yes, yes, maybe maybe were gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>the book launch on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see if grand edition. Yeah, we'll have as many

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<v Speaker 5>people in the room as there would be readers of

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<v Speaker 5>the book. What I could do is.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a uh maybe maybe Crash will come on you reckon,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get him on.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't is it if he works in the

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<v Speaker 5>same company.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't anymore, doesn't he? Well, I mean he's on

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<v Speaker 4>the back page. He's on the back page, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's more like a guest spot. He works for

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<v Speaker 4>news Corp. And we're not news Corp.

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<v Speaker 3>But anymore, remember, oh.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not before well it was a slot, was portion

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<v Speaker 5>of news Corp?

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<v Speaker 4>No, well, yes, they invested, but we're the z own.

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<v Speaker 4>We love Saudi Arabian now I reckon. So Crash was

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<v Speaker 4>to come on and be okay, yeah, just keep that

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<v Speaker 4>in mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah right, yeah, he's a good one. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Ranking top four games from the weekend there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Max, we'virtually having a discussion on Sunday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>What gave you half?

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<v Speaker 4>What was the best game of the season so far?

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<v Speaker 4>So you had Geelong Jean to be clearly a contender

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<v Speaker 4>for that is up there.

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<v Speaker 5>I find it very funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same stuff every like last week, we just

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<v Speaker 3>watched the Game of the Year because the year and

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<v Speaker 3>their week later.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, we just saw the Game.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the Year because it also was like in mind,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not an unmerited discussion to have attack Merrit was

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<v Speaker 4>not playing in that, but anyway, very good.

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<v Speaker 3>Get him to Geelong work.

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<v Speaker 2>I had Geelong Giants first. I'm sorry, No, I didn't. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I had dog Sons first.

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<v Speaker 5>You are taking that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>Game, helped by the fact that you watched all of

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<v Speaker 3>it because you were working steaday night.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch all that I had to. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a genuine split screen operation happening on fair. It was

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<v Speaker 2>very good.

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<v Speaker 5>Fifty seven I had that third Giants, that's second. Significant

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<v Speaker 5>had the Spoon Bowl fourth. I was good fun but

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<v Speaker 5>Spoon ahead of North Lions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've ignored to draw there in your top four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Richmond West Coast was fourth, yes, and North Lines

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<v Speaker 3>was fifth because Richmond Richmond won it whereas North Melbourne

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<v Speaker 3>lost it.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was also a sense of West Coast trying

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<v Speaker 2>their absolute guts out and try and get that wind

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<v Speaker 2>I found that a very engaging.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, whereas North Brisbane was the least engaging draw possible.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, how is this still close?

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<v Speaker 3>And then the final siren goes like genuinely lost that game,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I expect to go to run by like five goals.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen many drawers where I'm like, they clearly

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<v Speaker 3>lost that game, like the North clearly didn't should have

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<v Speaker 3>won that, Like they had a shot at Clark in

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<v Speaker 3>the box and like he would be really upset because

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<v Speaker 3>they should have.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he's pretty, he keeps his emotions and check think.

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<v Speaker 5>Angry Clark I might be back. There were some shots

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<v Speaker 5>of him getting very frustrated in the in the box.

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<v Speaker 2>How about angry Andrew mcqualta right at the end there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that was that was the back page of The

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<v Speaker 3>West was like.

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<v Speaker 5>A really blurry screenshot of him.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the exact same screen grape I got when

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<v Speaker 4>we put the video on Facebook of him walking.

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<v Speaker 3>That was great.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably screenshoted it from Facebook actually knowing the where was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Thought? The West West was.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not affiliated with them?

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<v Speaker 2>No, seven West Media.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes Mitch Woodcock, yes, yep, yes, very good.

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<v Speaker 4>Motormouth Mitch is his column on a Monday morning. I

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<v Speaker 4>believe it's called motormouth Mitch, I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>So what about So you really like the Geelong Giants game?

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<v Speaker 2>That was your number one?

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<v Speaker 5>I put Gelong Giants at one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had Showdown fifty seven to I had Gold

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<v Speaker 3>Coast Western Bulldogs third and then Richmond West Coast fourth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Max Sinkuila Carton number one for me. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>really enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, sin Kilda Carlton first half was okay,

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<v Speaker 2>just the third quarter was as dour as it gets. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, on your ross.

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<v Speaker 4>The fixed in the last two weeks. So freemantleson kilter

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<v Speaker 4>last week on a Friday night, Yes, along with Essendon North,

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<v Speaker 4>which I don't know at what point during the fixture

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<v Speaker 4>process they thought that was going to be a good game.

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<v Speaker 3>It was close, but not a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Of campaigning maybe from both sides to get that that

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<v Speaker 2>time slot.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, good for them. They've campaigned well and.

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<v Speaker 5>Then this week, yes, as has Anthony Albanese.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, let's talk about the election now and that

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<v Speaker 3>would be fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you speak about that I've been on since the

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<v Speaker 5>election we.

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<v Speaker 2>Had We mentioned that it was a good Saturday night

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<v Speaker 2>for Max a couple of saturdays ago because Geelong beat

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<v Speaker 2>Collingwood and thrilling circumstances.

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<v Speaker 5>And what were you happy about Labor winning or Dutton

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<v Speaker 5>losing his seat?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was more than negative and positive because he

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<v Speaker 6>is quite like mean Max at heart like when like

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<v Speaker 6>you take what you would take more joy in Dutton

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<v Speaker 6>losing that's not his seat than you would in Labor

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<v Speaker 6>Party winning the election.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be my guest.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I didn't vote for the Labor Party, that's fair enough.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well I don't know what vote legalized cannabis thing

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<v Speaker 5>was that? What it was?

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<v Speaker 3>It was that's the most obscure, weird party there was

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<v Speaker 3>that ran not trumpet of so that'd be the answer.

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<v Speaker 4>This would be Fusion. The Fusion Party ran on the station.

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<v Speaker 4>If you if you voted for every box above the

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<v Speaker 4>line on the Fusion in the Victorian Senate, you voted

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<v Speaker 4>for the Fusion Party at some point.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a real party.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, they were like a bunch of random parties leading

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<v Speaker 4>which way, well sort of left but then sort of

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<v Speaker 4>not really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>There're a fusion of a bunch of nonsense. We should

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<v Speaker 3>probably talk about football some Sorry, what this is you

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<v Speaker 3>bring me on mate, all right, this is what you get,

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<v Speaker 3>so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us know your feedback. Who's on top of the

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<v Speaker 2>power Colin still, Collingwood.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes for Masashi.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's it for today?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I think is it? Do they sponsor the graphic like

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<v Speaker 3>twice a month or something? I think it's the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>If you see the graphic, you'll know number one Collingwood,

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<v Speaker 4>Collingwood Stage, collingw David Yeah, yeah, yes, incredible win over Frio.

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<v Speaker 5>Incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a bit one in terms of the outs that

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<v Speaker 3>they had, the outs they had going over to play Frero,

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<v Speaker 3>which is still a very hard game. You know, Frio

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<v Speaker 3>is still a what even if there.

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<v Speaker 4>Are six to tenth team gallant. They were gallant, and

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<v Speaker 4>they certainly had a million inside fifties. But Collingwood's defense

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<v Speaker 4>standing up and then performing incredibly well. I think that

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<v Speaker 4>was a typical Collingwood going West win.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know that they travel well the Pies.

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<v Speaker 4>Craig McCrae has not won, has not lost a game

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<v Speaker 4>where he had to fly West in his career as Collinwood.

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<v Speaker 2>Fly has never lost a game in flying West.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, right, that's why he's called Fly. I presume yes,

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<v Speaker 4>loves the planes, so Collingwood stays number one B.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll find out favorite. Is it his favorite movie?

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<v Speaker 5>Just keep going?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe Fly the Fly?

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<v Speaker 5>Just keep going, I'll find out, Just keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I put the Brisbane lines down a spot for drawing

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<v Speaker 4>with North melon.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a pretty ordinary performance. A Lockie Neil post

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<v Speaker 2>game said that we couldn't have played much worse. But

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<v Speaker 2>North Melbourne played really well in his post game, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think he sort of corrected him way through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, sound really bad?

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<v Speaker 5>Ques?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 4>And I've got the despite their loss. I've got the

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<v Speaker 4>Bulldog second because I think Brisbane's loss deserved a gang on.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Bulldogs lost to Gold Coast and Brisbane drew

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<v Speaker 2>with North Melbourne, but the Dogs have usurped Brisbane on

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<v Speaker 2>the power rankings.

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<v Speaker 4>What's worse drawing with North Melbourne or losing to Gold

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<v Speaker 4>Coast in Darwin where they haven't lost in.

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<v Speaker 2>Four in here. In this situation with Brisbane, I would

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<v Speaker 2>still bank a little bit of form rather than a

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<v Speaker 2>snap judgment off.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would argue that Brisbane's form has not been

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<v Speaker 4>as great as the ladder represents. I think they've had

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<v Speaker 4>one really good win over sin Kilda. They had the

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<v Speaker 4>good the Pineapple Grapple was better than the margin suggested.

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<v Speaker 4>Other than that a bunch of close games. Bad lost

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<v Speaker 4>to Collingwood.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where it'd be objective. But if Brisbane was

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<v Speaker 2>playing the Western Bulldogs this weekend at Marvel or Gabber,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be picking the Brisbane line still when.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be picking based on whether would you.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick it this weekend? If Brisbane was playing Western Bulldogs

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<v Speaker 2>this week David at Marvel.

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<v Speaker 3>So apparently I gits Back to the Future reference. So

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<v Speaker 3>I've been going through a lot of different threats here.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think Mick Malthouse called him fly Bags.

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<v Speaker 3>That's his Twitter handle, Yes, but I think he called

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<v Speaker 3>him fly Bags as a reference to Marty McFly from

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<v Speaker 3>Back to the Future because McCrae McFly.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I thought below, yeah, yeah, below, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>think fly.

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<v Speaker 3>I think McFly. That's it, so I think, and now

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<v Speaker 3>it's now they've dropped the milk and now it's just fly.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Okay, okay, sure, he doesn't really remind me of

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<v Speaker 4>Marty McFly otherwise. Yeah, I mean, he loves skateboarding on

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<v Speaker 4>the back of a truck. But you know, other than that.

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<v Speaker 5>I would tip.

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<v Speaker 4>The Oh it's a good ques, it's a good so

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<v Speaker 4>that this is my point. I think Brisbane just deserved

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<v Speaker 4>to go down a spot because of their poor performance.

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<v Speaker 4>And the problem with the rankings this week was that

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<v Speaker 4>second third give my answer, I'm letting you think. Sorry, sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>sorry being professional. Sorry, Second and third and fourth all

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<v Speaker 4>lost or didn't win rather than Brisbane, and then Hawthorne

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<v Speaker 4>beating Melbourne wasn't overly convincing. Finally beat them for the

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<v Speaker 4>first time in what eight years? But they stay fifth,

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<v Speaker 4>gold Coast moving up because I do credit they win

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<v Speaker 4>over the Bulldogs, which forces.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of laid.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the problem was ben My rankings were too correct

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<v Speaker 4>last week.

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<v Speaker 3>So that change.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I think i'd tip the dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>So there you go, I tip the dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>And then how much do you read into percentage at

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<v Speaker 2>this time of the year as well, because the Dogs

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<v Speaker 2>is percentages on hundre twenty two in Brisbane sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>top of the ladder with one hundred and thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no great percentages.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think there's something too that they have not

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<v Speaker 4>been and they've talked about this. It SEMs like every

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<v Speaker 4>week there's a press conference where Harris Andrews comes out

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<v Speaker 4>and says, oh, you know, we know we're banking the wins,

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<v Speaker 4>but we know we can play better than this, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason behind the percentage is offensively, Actually, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not scoring brilliantly at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not banking the percent engine.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the percentage doesn't matter because of the draw in.

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<v Speaker 2>Because in the last four weeks they've gone seventy one,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six, one hundred and eight against set Kilda, which

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<v Speaker 2>was their best win, then fifty three against Collingwood.

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<v Speaker 4>It's got some problems there, slightly ex but I think

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<v Speaker 4>like it was a really close, exciting weekend where we

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<v Speaker 4>didn't learn an enormous amount.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree with that, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Carlton's all right. I think Carlton are the

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<v Speaker 4>best team out of the eight right now. The Giants

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<v Speaker 4>showed again that they have even if they have system problems,

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<v Speaker 4>they have so much talent sometimes that it just works

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<v Speaker 4>for them and they love playing in Geelong. Sydney is

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<v Speaker 4>so untrustable, but you have to wait and see how

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<v Speaker 4>good they can be when they get their players back.

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<v Speaker 4>Untrustworthy is the most interesting team out of the eighth

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<v Speaker 4>though for me right because I've still got them down

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<v Speaker 4>there fourteenth, I still think I want to see them

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<v Speaker 4>do it against a good team. They've beaten a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of teams below them on the ladder, beaten teams. They

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<v Speaker 4>probably should be beating Sidney maybe their best win so far,

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<v Speaker 4>and they were pretty convincing in it too.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this is the thing with Essendon, So they've

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<v Speaker 2>got a percentage of ninety point eight. Yes at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>but that is the Swan and Saints Dockers and Carlton.

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<v Speaker 2>Carlton's percentage is actually quite good, yes, way better than

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<v Speaker 2>the bombs.

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<v Speaker 3>Carlton centerge was good when they was up and four

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, they played a bunch of close games

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<v Speaker 4>and finally banks some wins the percentage even though they

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<v Speaker 4>had that big loss to Adelaide. So Essenton, their defense

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<v Speaker 4>has actually been around since round four, been very good.

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<v Speaker 4>Keep in mind that since round four they haven't played

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<v Speaker 4>many good teams. I think Collingwood and a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>others that are okay, and then a bunch of bad

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<v Speaker 4>teams they've beaten. So you want to see estdon against

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<v Speaker 4>the properly good teams. They got the Bolldogs this week,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a great test because I really rate the

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<v Speaker 4>Bulldogs and see if you're just seen with the rankings

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<v Speaker 4>and if their defense can stand up again, Zach reed,

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<v Speaker 4>looking fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually might be more than just mediocre.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the Geelong and Giants game, David, which you

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<v Speaker 2>would have watched very closely as part of your Sunday agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>There did we learn much about either team?

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<v Speaker 5>It did?

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<v Speaker 2>It felt like it felt like a final at GMHBA

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<v Speaker 2>State actually would be interesting if that's that would play,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Cats would be zipping to in finals

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<v Speaker 2>at GMHBA Pro probably they would be. Are you convinced

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<v Speaker 2>about the Giants? It took a Jesse Hogan seven goal

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<v Speaker 2>hall to yeah, but it wins a win.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty well they I tipped them for the flag

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<v Speaker 3>Brix season, so I need to stay with them. I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't like I was concerned about their losses recently, but

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<v Speaker 3>not like alarmed. I still think they can turn. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a it's a long season. I think this was probably

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<v Speaker 3>a bit more in line with where I thought they

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<v Speaker 3>would be, sort of matching it to toe with Geelong.

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<v Speaker 3>In Geelong it's a pretty good efforts, so that might

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<v Speaker 3>get them back on track. They have got a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of injuries though, like especially in the middle of the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all in the one you know, the Kelly Canelio.

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<v Speaker 3>They're sort of just Bedford will come back hopefully so,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's just I think they're a bit hamstrung at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Jake Stringer exactly less hamstring genuinely has So.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just nominative determinism at work, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Jake Stringer just has to be injured at points.

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<v Speaker 5>I like it. I think they're going well. Yeah that

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<v Speaker 5>was the confidence burst drind Ear, just to keep the

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<v Speaker 5>faith in them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's fair. Look, you look at the

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<v Speaker 4>Giants losses this year Hawthorne and Tazzy, Adelaide and Adelaide

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<v Speaker 4>Bulldogs in Canberra, Sydney at the SCG, pretty reasonable losses.

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<v Speaker 4>They are a fine team that is incredibly talented at

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<v Speaker 4>times and has some worse midfield than everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing is the Sydney look after the performance from Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>on the weekend. How does that Giants lost to Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>look that looks that was the outlier out of that group.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the weird sort of counterbalance of yeah, they beat

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<v Speaker 4>gel Long and Gelong, but geez the week before.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks even worse now, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because and Joey was really strong on First Crack last

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<v Speaker 2>night saying Sydney at the moment don't look like they

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<v Speaker 2>have got a brand and it's part of injury. It's

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<v Speaker 2>part of the injury discussions, out of the growing pains

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<v Speaker 2>under a new coach in Dean Cox. But Sydney, it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to see Sidney playing finals now.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I haven't. I spoke to Nick Del Santo for

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<v Speaker 5>AFL tonight today. Oh sorry, Raven. Yes, it was a great,

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<v Speaker 5>a great chat.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows what day we recorded this, because Damian Barrats

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<v Speaker 3>are here to tell us the daytime and the exact moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I so I spoke to dal and he said something

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<v Speaker 3>interesting about the Swan's He's like, you always knew what

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to get against them. You always knew you

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<v Speaker 3>were going to be him for a tough game of foot,

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<v Speaker 3>are you always regardless of the result? And he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>know that now they look like they've lost that toughness

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment, which is a big change I think

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<v Speaker 3>from the Sydney Swans that we've known for so long.

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<v Speaker 4>They weren't really winning by toughness last year either. They

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<v Speaker 4>were winning via midfield incredible talent and then that great

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<v Speaker 4>ball movement that could cut in on open goals coming

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<v Speaker 4>from the midfield exactly. So, the incredible talent of that

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<v Speaker 4>midfield trio of Heinie, Warner and Gordon was good enough

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<v Speaker 4>to propel them into winning most games and in the

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<v Speaker 4>first quarter to the Giants, just having two of them

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<v Speaker 4>playing at their best was good enough to win the

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<v Speaker 4>entire game. But now when they're not doing that every

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<v Speaker 4>week and they've still got flaws at either end of

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<v Speaker 4>the ground, it's just the problems that we thought that.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it just going into last year. That's why

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<v Speaker 4>I had Sydney ninth going into last year, because I figured, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the midte was really good, but the rest of the

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<v Speaker 4>ground isn't good enough for him. And now it's playing

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<v Speaker 4>out just a year later. Yeah, never wrong, just early.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about that loss last sorry, that win over

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants last week, and they're spread a goalkickers. So

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<v Speaker 2>on the weekend they had Hayward kick two and then

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<v Speaker 2>singles to Campbell, Grundy, MacLean, McInerney, Sheldrick and which one

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<v Speaker 2>was that, Corey Warner Corey. So again it that goalkicking

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<v Speaker 2>list we talked about last week where they eleven of

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<v Speaker 2>their twelve goals came from individual goalkickers. Again that on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend, it just feels like an unsustainable spread there.

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<v Speaker 2>And we heard Logan McDonald I thinks had another injury

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<v Speaker 2>setback as well. We know they're still waiting on a

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<v Speaker 2>Mardi so that there's a there's just so many questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Marks Man Swan that had a been incredible run with

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<v Speaker 4>injuries last year, as in very few of them. They

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<v Speaker 4>basically used twenty six players all year, with a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of fillions every now and then. They've already had to

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<v Speaker 4>go into their depth so much more. They're two games

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<v Speaker 4>and percentage out of the eight. Looking at the teams

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<v Speaker 4>outside the eight, a lot of the talk around I

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<v Speaker 4>think this eight will make the finals is also because

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<v Speaker 4>there are not a lot of convincing teams outside the

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<v Speaker 4>eight right soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably will be thought preseason.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, we thought there are a bunch of okay

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<v Speaker 4>teams and even the best teams aren't incredible. Collingwood is

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<v Speaker 4>reasonably clearly the number one team right now, but even

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<v Speaker 4>still they can have their flaws at times. So who's

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<v Speaker 4>the best team out of the eight? I'm looking at Carlton,

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<v Speaker 4>looking at Freeo, I'm looking at a fully fit Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be Freemantle.

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<v Speaker 3>It should be free Men.

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<v Speaker 4>How badly did you feel about them out of the

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<v Speaker 4>Collingwood game, considering they should have won, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 4>can look at that half fall and say, hey, they

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<v Speaker 4>had all this They did all this stuff right midfield

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<v Speaker 4>was really good. They had double the inside fifties almost.

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<v Speaker 4>It seemed like every single time they went inside fifty

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<v Speaker 4>they were bombing it to twenty five meters out and

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<v Speaker 4>every dock it was leaping for the ball and then

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<v Speaker 4>conley Wood crumbed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it could work.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we didn't learn a lot about Freemantle.

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<v Speaker 2>They play the Giants at Giants Stadium this week, that

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be a real test for them. That's a very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting game, real test for them. It's now time for

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<v Speaker 2>David's Favorite Scene and now.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Fox Foody Podcast, another strong edition of Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite segment. Fair or fast?

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<v Speaker 2>Fair or fast coming your way right now, David, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got an umpiring problem in twenty twenty five? Fair or fast?

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<v Speaker 5>What's this stem from?

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<v Speaker 2>This comes from? And I think it's a genuine howler,

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<v Speaker 2>But how they missed the I mean, that's just a

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<v Speaker 2>clear And then there was also a dangerous tackle. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you see the Joel Handling dangerous tackle on Nick Martin

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<v Speaker 2>late in the game that Joel Hammling was penalized for.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a lineball. I think West Coast might have

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<v Speaker 2>been a little stiff late against Richmond yesterday, as.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say fair in that I don't remember as many

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<v Speaker 3>like howlers as I've seen recently, like in this year.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't said there's many clear cat like wrong decisions.

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<v Speaker 4>But has there been a decision worse than the tripping

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<v Speaker 4>one on Cossi picket?

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<v Speaker 5>I just I've got a general feel in my body.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the problem with this discussion. I think is

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<v Speaker 3>it every year because talk about it so much, it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a self fulfilling And always around this time of

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<v Speaker 3>the year.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked spoke to someone in the umpiring department in

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<v Speaker 2>previous years and they always said around Anzac Day, umpiring

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<v Speaker 2>commentary always peaks, but it just feels like there's a

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<v Speaker 2>few more prominent voices from like officials, coaches at clubs

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<v Speaker 2>now that I'm making a bit noise, more noise than usual,

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<v Speaker 2>And I do wonder if it is we are starting

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<v Speaker 2>to see the effect of the lack of depth across

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<v Speaker 2>umpiring from bottom up. If that is now starting to

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<v Speaker 2>come to the forest, some of these more experienced umpires

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<v Speaker 2>over the next coming years start to hang up the whistle.

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<v Speaker 3>When was the umpiring good?

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<v Speaker 5>Hang up the whistle?

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<v Speaker 4>When was umpiring ever acceptable that no one complained about it?

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<v Speaker 4>That's the answer is never.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true.

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<v Speaker 4>We also do not remember how we felt at this

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<v Speaker 4>time in every other season, because I'm sure if you

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<v Speaker 4>went back through years of this podcast, there were weeks

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<v Speaker 4>where we said the umpiring is really troubling this year.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, these bad mistakes they're making. They need to

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<v Speaker 4>fix these problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't think we would have. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think umpiring discussion or officiating rules that is not as

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<v Speaker 2>prominent in the back half of a season.

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<v Speaker 4>No, because we get we have the discussion, then we

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<v Speaker 4>get past it, and then we get into finals run

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<v Speaker 4>up and all of that other stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Other narratives come up, so it always happens, shall pass.

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<v Speaker 4>There will never be a solution to this game, which

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<v Speaker 4>is clearly very hard to umpire it max.

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<v Speaker 2>Forcing players who stay down after appearing to cop head

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<v Speaker 2>contact to undertake a mandatory HIA will therefore stop players

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<v Speaker 2>exaggerating high contact, fair or fast.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is a fast because I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>this is as big a problem as David King Lean

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<v Speaker 4>Montagna made it on First Crack on Sunday night. I

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<v Speaker 4>think there are certainly times where players do it, and they,

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<v Speaker 4>as former players themselves admitted themselves. Of course, every player

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<v Speaker 4>at some point exaggerates for a free kick because you're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to milk the rules in that certain way. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just what happens. But I think there is there are

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<v Speaker 4>too many negatives of that idea of a forced HIA,

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<v Speaker 4>in that players in the knowledge of that would be

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get up even if they're not right. We

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<v Speaker 4>just saw Lockey Schultz on Thursday night trying to get

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<v Speaker 4>up falling weirdly, being made to run off the ground

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<v Speaker 4>while cancust falling.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be.

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<v Speaker 4>More situations like that where players who are injured are like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh no, I have to get up. I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to be out for an hia and then that's putting

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<v Speaker 4>themselves in more danger if they were allowed to keep playing.

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<v Speaker 2>So Za, it'd be unfathomable that umpires quote didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>end quote Locky Shultz stumblings a or fast planned yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Planned far fast, Yes, I'm sorry I didn't see the

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<v Speaker 3>fact he had this ready.

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<v Speaker 2>The statement was that the umpire at the time didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see Lockey Shultz stumbling around against.

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<v Speaker 3>Free Medle'd say fair that they didn't. I'd say, you

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<v Speaker 3>need to say that sort of stuff maybe, but I

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<v Speaker 3>can say it's fair that they would have missed it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of players to things watch on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I do one of those that there's four umpires and

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<v Speaker 2>that's happening in the middle of the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>Not it's a blunder in the same way that missions

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<v Speaker 4>not cutting the ford out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean it's a mistake that they made that

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<v Speaker 3>they shouldn't make again. Yeah, I would not suspect that

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to happen again this season.

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<v Speaker 5>Much like that trimming call.

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<v Speaker 4>We are watching the game from a very different way

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<v Speaker 4>as fans at home than umpires, so we did not

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<v Speaker 4>have a close up shot of locker shorts getting bumped

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<v Speaker 4>and fall into the ground and then replays afterwards in

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<v Speaker 4>the same way that they were. Maybe they saw it

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<v Speaker 4>as they were watching the play, but they may have

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<v Speaker 4>had to move on, like all if to keep following

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<v Speaker 4>the ball and seeing what else is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, it's a mistake, but an understandable one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Max, I'm just going to put Ken Hinckley's direct

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<v Speaker 2>quote to you as a fair or fast. This was

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<v Speaker 2>about Willy Rioli. I would doubt anyone would go there

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<v Speaker 2>with the stance the AFL has put in place around

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<v Speaker 2>comments comments said on the field end quote fair or fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think if players are smart, they'll understand that

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<v Speaker 4>getting involved in a situation of sledging or whatever really

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<v Speaker 4>really isn't beneficial to anyone, not to Willy, not to them,

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<v Speaker 4>not to just general nice practice. My general rule with

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 4>footy players who continue to break it is don't be

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<v Speaker 4>a jerk. And they're always doing it, hitting each other

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<v Speaker 4>and whatnot, but that will continue to happen. Yeah, this

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 4>situation is clearly way more complicated than everyone would want

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<v Speaker 4>it to be. Will it really the fact that he

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<v Speaker 4>does deal with daily racism and that makes him maybe

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<v Speaker 4>have less of a trigger for acting out. It's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 4>It's something he needs to both deal with and we

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<v Speaker 4>need to understand.

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<v Speaker 3>That he is dealing with.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's why my fear is that I think Jay

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<v Speaker 4>Clark wrote about this on Monday with The Held's Sun,

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<v Speaker 4>that the loud discussion around him and things he has

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<v Speaker 4>arguably done wrong, but also things that have happened to

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<v Speaker 4>him that were even more wrong, Ye are making him

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<v Speaker 4>a target and he's always going to get bood or

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 4>he's always going to get more attention and people just

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<v Speaker 4>in random comments on social media are going to be

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<v Speaker 4>more critical than they need to be, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course they'll be racist.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a really unfortunate situation that he find himself

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<v Speaker 4>in and I don't know how he gets out of

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<v Speaker 4>that ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think a good shout out here Koshi

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 2>gets a hard time. But David cost is a very

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.439
<v Speaker 2>good interview with five Double a Breakfast last week and

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 2>articulated very well not only the abuse that Willy gets,

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<v Speaker 2>but all First Nations players in his situation port Adelaide,

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>because they do have a very high representation of First

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<v Speaker 2>nation players on their lists and the abuse that comes

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<v Speaker 2>out out and which makes it such a complex situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think another good interview was Chris Davies on three

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Out w on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a really good in terms of the depth

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 5>he went into. I think it was with Tim lay

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 5>and Caroline Wilson. Him and Caro had back and forth

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 5>about it, which I found really really intriguing. That was

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<v Speaker 5>a really good interview in terms of going into the

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<v Speaker 5>depth of how much there is to this issue. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's also another one that was very very enlightening.

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<v Speaker 4>There are still a very old fashioned view. It's still

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<v Speaker 4>a very white industry. We are three white men talking

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<v Speaker 4>about in fact.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's correct.

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 4>There are the things that we just don't understand. Even

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 4>I will briefly touch on Alex Pierce. There are things

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<v Speaker 4>to his life and as an Indigenous man where he

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<v Speaker 4>feels about certain issues that are impacted by the indigenous plight.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all same, not that's referring to, but yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Zita, it'd be better to send a one point

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 2>two million dollar player like Clayton Oliver to the VFL

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<v Speaker 2>to regain form as a midfielder there rather than play

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 2>him as a tagger at AFL level fair or fast?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh no.

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<v Speaker 3>Fast if he wants to No, no, if he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to play that role and he thinks that's the best

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.400
<v Speaker 3>service he can give to the team. Yes, he's overpaid

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 3>for that role, but that's I think you'd rather have

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.160
<v Speaker 3>him in the team than not if he If he's

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:56.880
<v Speaker 3>doing they actually did quite well on the weekend.

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Played a very good game.

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<v Speaker 3>But you got to know what he wants. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't think sending him to the VFL is

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 3>going to I don't know if his performance, like from

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 3>all reports, his fitness and his fitness levels are good,

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Like he's actually been really fit this year. He's done

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 3>the right things off the track. It's just his footy

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:19.199
<v Speaker 3>is not. He's not his ability as a player is

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 3>not as threatening as it was, or his output as

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 3>a player is not as threatening as it was in

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 3>recent seasons. I don't know if the game's moved past

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.120
<v Speaker 3>him or what's changed. But I don't know if it's

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 3>a purely Clayton Oliver. It's not a Clayton Oliver a

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 3>work rate or desire issue. I don't think the VFL

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 3>is going to solve that.

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. I think the game in ways

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>has moved past the pure inside midfielder. He doesn't have

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of well that's his issue is he has that many

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 3>other other weapons.

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 5>But the weapon he had was just so good.

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 4>But he can be incredibly damaging with that weapon. And

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 4>you look at Jack McCray, who is a very inside

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 4>player and has done very well for the Saints this year.

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 4>You can still find a role for those players. It's

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 4>just that he's not being as damaging and as we

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 4>talked a bit about last week, that makes his trade

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Are you even worse than An arguably was six months

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 4>ago because you could make the excuse last year that

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 4>he wasn't fit and he was playing poorly. Now he's

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 4>fit and he's playing poorly, well, then there's the upside

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 4>is harder to.

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Find, Maxi Rowan Marshall's strong performance against Carlton proved the

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Saints are putting their money and trade priorities in the

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>wrong areas, fair or fast.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 4>I think you could draw that conclusion before that game.

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Even definitely a fair call that the idea of just

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 4>in terms of list construction, paying one point seven million

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 4>a year to a rock forward in Tom de Conning

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 4>is just incredibly questionable because of what we know about

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Boondom footy. And you know the most dominant ruckman of

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 4>the last decade, Max Gorn. Yeah he won a flag,

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 4>but what that was because the rest of the team

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 4>was really good too. Right now, he's been incredible and

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 4>the Demons are still bottomed six. So you can only

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 4>go so far with a top player in that position

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 4>with two. Yes, the Saints had some success with Marshall

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 4>and Writer, but you have to wonder what that would

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 4>do as compared to spending that money if possible, because

0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 4>the main thing the sensors to do is get someone

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 4>to take their money. Yes, could you get Miles Bergman

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 4>this year? Could you get even a year down the

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 4>road Zach Butter's which would be an ideal recruit because

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<v Speaker 4>re one of the better players in the comp.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Exali read.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course you need those more damaging players, and what

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 4>they have already got quite a good little suite.

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Of is damaging half backs.

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<v Speaker 4>So if they can keep on in Miller, which does

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<v Speaker 4>seem like it's not going to be easy from Port

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 4>and Jack said, Clare continues to play really well, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they have Bergman to add to that. Perhaps they

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 4>rotate them through the midfield. That's a modern way of

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<v Speaker 4>playing footy. That's a modern way of building a list.

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<v Speaker 4>They've done pretty well considering.

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<v Speaker 3>How they progressed.

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<v Speaker 4>This list to be a lot younger than it was

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of years ago, while still being broadly competitive.

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 3>There's still a fine team, so I'm pretty happy with

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 3>their trajectory.

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 4>There is the risk of if you paid Tom to Conning,

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 4>you back yourself into a corner where even if he's

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 4>really good, it doesn't help you as much as a

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 4>player at a different position.

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<v Speaker 2>And it does put up the question of what does

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Rowan Marshall think about that? How that impact his footy future?

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Will he look elsewhere? Will others come for him and

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<v Speaker 2>try and twist his arm? David Luke McDonald elected to

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<v Speaker 2>bump very good.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.239
<v Speaker 4>People will know the result of the match review by

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<v Speaker 4>the time they've listened to this.

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<v Speaker 3>But your projection false? No, I mean fast, not the segment.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry fast. I don't think it's a tricky one, though

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<v Speaker 5>it is really tricky. There's a lot of angry people

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<v Speaker 5>in the comments.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually can't get over that people think there's a bias.

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. The other night I was before I went to

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 5>against North.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think they think that because I was going

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 3>to bed and I was just like, I'll just check

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 3>because I haven't checked this for a while, so I

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 3>just oh, my good, okay, my people people are.

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>I think when David puts out sort of the m

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 2>r O state of play tweets before the verdict actually

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>comes out, it's often coming from I would say, a

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>place of knowledge or expectation, because he knows the system

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<v Speaker 2>a lot better than everyone else. But people think it's opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>Informed.

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<v Speaker 5>It informed opinion, pure opinion with bias.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't.

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's no bias. This isn't gonna change the GY's mind.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 5>Like I'm telling you that, I don't look at North

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 5>Melbourne and go, well it's North. That's weird. Why would

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 5>I do that? Would do this? Might upset people. I

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 5>don't care about them enough to have a bias.

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't care about club these club's enough to have

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 3>a bias towards them more against them. Nor do you

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 3>have the power to buy.

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<v Speaker 5>It it means anything anyway, I don't, I genuinely, so

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 5>I watched it initially and I thought he I thought, oh,

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 5>he's gone. He's gone for.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Three weeks, and then I watched it back repeatedly, and

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Will Falkner in the officely you tend to work, a

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 3>friend of the podcast regular at the podcast these days,

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 3>did say that he looked.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if he did. It was happening really quickly,

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 5>and you know, I think Will's.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Played at some level, yes, more cricket anyway, But he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, you wouldn't just think put yourself in

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 3>his shoes. You wouldn't have He might not have seen

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Berry coming in from the side until the absolute last it.

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I tend to agree, like he actually genuinely looks like

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Luke McDonald can only see the ball ahead. And then

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 3>jere Berry makes a quick deviation off his line to

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 3>try and get further back into go and try and

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 3>get another mark, and then Luke McDonald sees him with

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>the absolute last second, to the point where it's so

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 3>instant he can't even elect to bump.

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 5>He tucks his arm slightly. I don't know if he

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 5>elects to bump. It's that quick.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 3>I actually don't think he has the time to even

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 3>make the decision to elect to bump. Everything he did

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 3>was reflexive and not even a careless act. That's how

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<v Speaker 3>tight and Nick Darcando spoke to Luke McDonald afterwards. He

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 3>told us and he said that he literally didn't see him.

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 5>He could not.

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 3>He did not see him in the absolute last second.

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 3>So I would be I know, it's a concussion in

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 3>the AF only to sort of they wanted to be

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 3>shown to be doing something.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think if they were to grade that.

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<v Speaker 3>And make it a reportable action, that would be more

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 3>because of the outcome rather than the action, which is

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 3>not the spite where people say, I don't think that's

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 3>how they operate. There has been a sanction his outcome

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>over the outcome based, but the reportable nature of it isn't.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 4>This is what the confusion was around the Zach Merritt

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 4>incident with Nick Blakey. Yes, was that you were saying,

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 4>and you were very clear on this. No, he's not

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 4>gonna get reported. He's going to be fine because he

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 4>was a football action and he did that first and

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 4>then the contact happened. But everyone gets confused about incidents

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 4>like the Paul Curtis one, and everyone thinks, oh well,

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 4>this is a legal tackle and he's getting sanctioned because

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<v Speaker 4>of the outcome. No, it was determined that it wasn't

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 4>legal tackle because of how he pinned the arms and

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 4>drove the head into the ground based on the scenario.

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>And you can disagree with that and whether it should

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 3>be reportable or not, but the AFL thinks it is reportable,

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 3>so that the only thing that that's outcome based that honestly,

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I think the only thing is the outcome based is

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 3>the sanction of how many weeks, But it being reportable

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 3>is not outcome based. But if this were to be graded,

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 3>I would think that's changed. And that's one of the

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>first ones I can think of that's outcome based over

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 3>the actual action. And I don't think I genuinely, despite

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 3>what people will say, don't think we're at that outcome

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 3>based point yet. North would have a very good case

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 3>of the tribunal if he is. Oh, I think they

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 3>get off for the tribunal if it would be great.

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 3>And sometimes they grade these just because they know the

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 3>AFL knows they'll challenge it and then we'll just see,

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 3>let's just have a look. In worst case, they get

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 3>their ten grand back and the players free to play.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 5>I just don't think it's I don't think they'll do it.

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Like just last one on this, could there Could he

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 2>have done anything else in the situation. That's probably what

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 2>the would have been asking as well.

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Could he have done well, that's what they always sorry,

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 3>that's what they always ask if the player were to

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 3>call them tomorrow and say, what was I supposed to do?

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what else, unless maybe he should have

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 3>been a bit more aware of his surroundings. Maybe, but

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Barry comes in off an angle. It's not Barry's fault,

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 3>but Barry comes in off an angle because he deviates

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 3>when he sees the market about to be taken, he

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 3>goes back towards to move further to a field to

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 3>take maybe contest to Mark and try and get free

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 3>for his opponent, for his teammate.

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 5>And McDonald doesn't see it until late. Yeah, I think

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 5>it's just a I think there is still room for

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 5>forty accidents. And that's what that was.

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 4>One last thing on the whole outcome deciding the result.

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 4>Thing that has to play because it plays a factor

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 4>in court. You get a biggest sanction in court for

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 4>murdering someone, then for manslaughter or for whatever you know.

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 4>There are different degrees of murder and all of these things,

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 4>a degrees of what happened. Based on what happens to

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 4>the victim, a different punishment is levied out.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 3>It has to be a factor of that.

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 4>I think everyone agrees that it's two binary right now,

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 4>and it has to be some nuance. But it has

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 4>to play a factor.

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 5>If a crime was committed.

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, And that's the first thing. And that's when

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 4>Zach Merritt didn't get cited.

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Not to equate crime to football. Well, I mean those

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 3>things have intersected this year, haven't That.

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Is that is true, David, last one, Maxie, And what

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll do is I'll probably give the context first before

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 2>so Caltumi reported that Tazzi, when when for their first draft,

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.760
<v Speaker 2>will be handed picks one, three, five, seven, nine, eleven,

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>and thirteens all the odds between one and thirteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>then in two years two and three of the build

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 2>they get picks five and nine. But in the first

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>year they must trade four picks, and it was put

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.240
<v Speaker 2>that those four picks were five, seven, nine, and thirteen.

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.720
<v Speaker 2>So they keep one of one of the three, eleven

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:06.240
<v Speaker 2>and eleven, but they must trade pick five and retain

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>pick nine in years two and three, and then there's

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 2>more nuance around the Draft Value Index repercussions as well,

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and as forty percent is the number being thrown around.

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 3>So that's the important part.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 2>So the question out of that is ahead of Tazzy's entry.

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 2>The AFL has clearly learned from past draft concession mistakes

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 2>with the Suns and the Giants. Fair or fast?

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.399
<v Speaker 4>I think fair, and it's trying to do the right thing.

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 4>The problem is it likes this mechanism of giving picks

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 4>you have to trade. It did it with North Melbourne

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 4>a couple of years ago. But think about what North

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 4>Melbourne did with those into first round commensation picks. I

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 4>think was one of them trading for Darcy Tuckey. Yes,

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 4>not been great, No, I don't think. I don't remember

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 4>what the other one was traded for. Maybe it was

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 4>in the Dylan Stevens steal. Things like that. You're not

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 4>going to get proper value for where those picks are

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 4>when you are forced to trade those.

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Picks because you've lose your leverage.

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 4>Yes, so when Tasmania has pick five, for example, three

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 4>years in a row and has to trade it, three

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 4>years in a row. You are never getting the actual

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 4>value of that pickback, and they're putting this requirement on

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 4>there that you can't get more than forty percent of

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 4>the draft value index points of pick five back because

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 4>ideally what you would do is, on Tasmania, I've got

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 4>pick five, I want X out of contract player who's okay,

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 4>he'll fill some depth, he'll play on the wings. Sometimes

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 4>he's all right, I want that. And pick fourteen, for example,

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 4>because the pick's still pretty good, you're downgrading the pick

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 4>and getting an okay player, So the team doesn't mind

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 4>losing the player, but you can't do that.

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 3>You would have to get back.

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 4>What if you're trading pick seven, you can only get

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 4>back pick twenty five, So that's a big down grade

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 4>on that pick, and the player is not going to

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 4>make up for that gap in pick value. So there

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 4>is a very real scenario where Tasmania is given these picks,

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 4>is forced to trade them, and then he's not getting

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 4>good value for them. He's getting a bunch of okay,

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 4>twenty five to twenty eight year old players and maybe

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 4>they're good the first couple of years, which is what

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 4>the AFL desperately wants that is bad five years down

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 4>the road. They're setting up a list that needs to

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 4>be good right away but does not have the years

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 4>of depth that a bunch of heavy concessions would give them.

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.800
<v Speaker 4>So I think they're still a debate on what level

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 4>of the forty percent level is going to be at.

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So would you think that's a part of the

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 2>solution though, would be tweaking the percentage?

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think raising it a little bit. Look, you

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 4>don't want it to be one hundred percent. You don't

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 4>want it to be saying you can do what you

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 4>want because they're going to trade pick seven for pick

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 4>nine and a player and it's irrelevant. But doing it

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 4>as strictly as it sounds like it's going to be

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.839
<v Speaker 4>risks forcing Tasmania into a bunch of bad trades which

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 4>teams can take advantage of. So those teams just happen

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 4>to get better because they made the right trades and

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 4>Tasmania is put in an awkward list.

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then that would be interesting to get the

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 2>feedback of the other eighteen clubs as well, because the

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 2>other eight en clubs subjectively, well look at that and think, oh,

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 2>it's probably not a bad result. But if they care

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>about the future of the competition and seeing Tasmania succeed,

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 2>then that'll be interesting.

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 4>Which is the problem with a system where the AFL

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 4>has to run this by the clubs because the clubs

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 4>have vested interests in their own success and other Casmanians

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 4>a bit.

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 2>To play out there in front. That is the end

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 2>of Fair of Faces. Our time to check the postbox

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 2>on the.

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Fox Foody podcast, It's time to open up the mail bag.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Have a question for the panel tweetess every Monday morning

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>at Fox Footy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Postman Pat and his black of my Cat. Yes,

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 4>we're coming. Toby a fan of Postman pattern. Surely you've

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 4>got some ABC.

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 5>They wouldn't play that anymore, would they.

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 3>No, but you get some on VHS tap.

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 5>You know what I don't like.

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 3>They've they've like upgraded the cartoon quality, the animation quality.

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Bananas and pajamas is the main.

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like it's no, that was actual people in suits.

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, back in the day, whereas the Postman Pat was

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 3>like in the last cartoon, Wait, well I thought there

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 3>was a real banana to.

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 5>Tell you that they were like Postman Pat was more

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 5>just nice cartoon.

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 3>And now it's like really like up to date cartoon.

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 3>It just loses some of the magic. Do you I

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 3>think most kids are just watching Blue.

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, Toby's favor is Blue. But Poor Patrol is

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a very close second of the ABC.

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 4>So it's free Disney probably, yes, bring back Johnson and Friends.

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 4>You that's that was with That was with the big

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 4>green thing, the hot water bottle and the pink elephant,

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 4>the big Green bedroom sort of like toy story pre

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 4>toy story. Yeah, kid's room.

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.919
<v Speaker 5>But was that animated it?

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 2>It was?

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Suits. Yeah, I'm on the Wikipedia pages. Yes,

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 3>the television program it got canceled, yes, all that how

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 3>much people loved it.

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 5>It got canceled. A TV reference in there when finished Suits.

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 4>The second last season in nineteen ninety Film Australia's technique

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 4>involved a large, oversized bedroom set and adult actors in

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 4>full body.

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 5>So it was full but that's like now, I know

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 5>that's weird, but like I just what to.

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Build a giant bedroom. I just enjoy that. The real people,

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 3>it's just got more heart to it. Postmon patals are

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 3>with real people. But you know, the cartoon quality just

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 3>seemed a bit more. It just seemed a bit more

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 3>authentic and lived in back in the day, back in

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 3>back in my Alfred was the water bottle? Oh yeah

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 3>there was. There was a Yes, not that.

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Booking.

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 4>Just tapes from the ABC had the exact same intro

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 4>and all of them.

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 5>And yes, they're so it's so good. Oh just hitting

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 5>me like really hard.

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Talking about me.

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 5>No, Alfred, Oh yes, yes, Oh my god.

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 4>It was like a Chinese show that they dubbed and

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.320
<v Speaker 4>it was like a magic dragon and stuff.

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>It was crazy.

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, extraordinary mail bag. Oh yeah, the postbox. Oh, this

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 3>is your fault message box.

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 4>This is a very different segment to that. This is

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.919
<v Speaker 4>where we talk about the question from John Freed, who

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 4>asks why did Port Adelaide's much faunted midfield trio not

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 4>start in the Midfield Showdown is the biggest game on

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.240
<v Speaker 4>their calendar, yet only Butters started the first center Bounce

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 4>alongside Bergman and Drew.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think, yeah, I don't think they often are

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>in the same center Bounce. Very you have to check

0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 2>the numbers. I don't think the three of them, Butters,

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 2>wrote and harn Francis are often in the same midfield

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 2>because I think Ken really likes to use Willem Drew

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 2>through there, Ollie Wines clearly still plays his best football

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 2>on the ball, and Bergman I think King he said

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 2>last night, attended more center bounces against Adelaide than he

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 2>had in his entire previous ninety games.

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 4>Beforehand eighty two percent of the Showdown, equal with Butters

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 4>and most on the team. Only other other game of

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.720
<v Speaker 4>attended center bounces at all this year was against Collingwood

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 4>and Round one.

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>And then Rosy's moved a half back in the past

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 2>few weeks and that has worked quite well. And Rosie

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>won the Showdown Metal Orbit somewhat controversially because Port Adelaide lost. Yes, yeah,

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 2>they've got It's not I understand those three players the

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:46.320
<v Speaker 2>biggest stars, but Ken Hinckley has consistently rotated other players

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>through that nix.

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Which is important because the best teams in the best

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.879
<v Speaker 4>midfields have depth where you can rotate through six, seven,

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 4>eight guys, and they played different roles. Will and Drew

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.399
<v Speaker 4>plays a very different role to a Butters. You need

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 4>you can't have three attack focus midfielders. That's what Porter's

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 4>had in the past, and then they've had no defensive output,

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 4>and then they've been torn apart going the other way.

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 4>So that's why you don't just put your best players

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 4>in it. You can't just look at the A for

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 4>twenty six ratings and go, I'm going to put my

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 4>best players in there, especially because those ratings are.

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Weird, right, They're better than they were.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 4>One more one from Jason X, who asks should there

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 4>be an automatic free kick for deceptive actions?

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 3>For flopping for a free? You know, you know, blackmailing

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 3>someone on the field, deceptive actions right, white whitewashing the action?

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Is that like when someone sets up a game with

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 3>three card Monty and the forward po Sarah Jones said

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 3>on The Giants Cats that Jimmy Cameron was lining up

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 3>on the Giants place said ye on your ear when

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 3>you're like Toby, Is that a deceptive action? Well, a

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 3>little bit, I suppose, trying to trick him and to

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 3>think he's still playing for them.

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 4>Flopping for a free even if there is a small free.

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Jason X says, pay it against him if he deceptively exaggerates,

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 4>but also if a player after a free is paid

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 4>to a team mate, for example saying give me the ball,

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 4>not him, hoping for a fifty penalty.

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Things like that.

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Surely that gets I don't think so milked in a

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 4>very and then those calls happen and they're stupid and

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 4>then we hate them, right but much.

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that's slightly over the top. I can't I

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 2>can't say about coming in anytime soon.

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 3>But thank you.

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 5>It's like Twitter, I've been the X.

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.240
<v Speaker 4>But I do like the idea because it would be funny.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 4>That's off of the mail day this week.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Kevin.

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 7>Oh, Kevin, Kevin.

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we just played it wet you said it and

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 5>I forgot we had the sting.

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because you're listening factually correct.

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.359
<v Speaker 5>I don't listen to this podcast, would you? Yeah? That's

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:50.360
<v Speaker 5>that can be the tagline?

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 2>What's the pitch you've just opened up? Next to the

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Who's that?

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.919
<v Speaker 3>Neil Roberts on his returns Ring Tastaker in nineteen seventy three.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes. Another fun part.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 4>About this book is that there are three different sections

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:01.800
<v Speaker 4>of photos.

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just to fill out the pages.

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 5>Used to love those bits of books when I was

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 5>a kid. So you go to the bookshop. That was

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 5>a bit Yeah, I opened up.

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Me too, and also gives you a little break. It

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.439
<v Speaker 3>seems like you're cheating because you're getting ahead of the book.

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 3>You're reading really quickly. It's like easy, easy pages.

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 4>But like, why is there a photo of Tony Lockett

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 4>taking a mark against Richmond?

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 5>And what does that? It was a pocket of greatness.

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 5>He's a great It was a great player.

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 3>In the pocket sometimes Jim Stein's playing for Victoria former.

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 2>If you do get a chance last week to listen

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 2>back to the pockets of greatness from my last week, what.

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 5>Happened, I'll send it to you. Okay, can you just

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 5>send it to me? I don't want to. I don't

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:40.280
<v Speaker 5>want to give you the satisfaction.

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Also don't want to spoil it. Thanks, Well, what's going

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 3>on here?

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 4>I've got to find roll I lost for I was

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 4>looking through the photo.

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Sorry next to your Kevin Sheedy, of.

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Course, we know gives a lot of wisdom.

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Well well experienced. Let me correct myself. There are a

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:57.839
<v Speaker 4>lot of words written down that Kevin Sheedy apparently staid.

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 4>Here are some of them. Yes, you can learn something

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 4>from the Japanese tourists in Australia across. They're smart. They

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 4>take photographs all the time. They go bang bang bang, photo, photo, photo.

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 4>They say, hey, look at that.

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 3>And what do you know? They've got something.

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 4>So I go around the world taking photos and bingo.

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what they mean when I take them sometimes,

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 4>but I do when I study them later. They make

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 4>you think, which takes you back to Peter the Great

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 4>of Russia of mine. Like Peter, you don't sit on

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 4>your bum and feel sorry for yourself. You go out

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 4>and find things and bring them back to your own

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 4>country and study them and see if you can use

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.359
<v Speaker 4>them or adapt them. That's what I learned from Peter

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 4>the Great.

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ's that is as so he's gone from Japanese

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 3>tourists to Peter the Great.

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 4>Peter the Great, of course, the Sara of Russia from

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.879
<v Speaker 4>six Geode two, and then emperor until his death.

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 5>Emperor. All right, that sounds like a healthy democracy.

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's far better for you.

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 4>In the seventeenth century. I did Russian Revolutions in our

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:07.959
<v Speaker 4>high school.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember.

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 5>I think probably they didn't have a democratic period, did

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 5>they were? They still went to the polls.

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 4>There was a bit in that subject where you know

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:17.800
<v Speaker 4>the song by Boney m about rasputing.

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we had study the song.

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.399
<v Speaker 5>Oh really, yeah? Was it Dent.

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:24.800
<v Speaker 3>It goes about three minutes.

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 5>No, not the length of the song, the lyrical, not

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 5>the length of the It's.

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Quite a historically accurate song. Ra Ra Raspute, lover of

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 4>the Russian Queen. He was a cat that really was

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 4>gone Rah rah respute in Russia's greatest love machine.

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 3>It was a shame how he carried on.

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 5>It was a banger too.

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 4>And then there was stuff abouthim getting poisoned, and he

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 4>went in a lake and then he came back to

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 4>life always.

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 5>Kevin doesn't talk about that.

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll see if he does.

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 5>I haven't read everything, wouldn't put it past. That might

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 5>be in the upcoming book.

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Peter was Oh, he organized a well ordered police state.

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't surprise me. Still this Max is a kid

0:47:58.320 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 5>like Victoria.

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Max's Kevin Sheedy voiceover is slowly becoming no on the

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of the media watch voiceover kind of areas a

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 2>little bit?

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 5>Is it really?

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I just I like it. It's it's got a real

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.720
<v Speaker 2>brand now, I think the Max voice over.

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 5>Then does Crash credit come on to the show or not?

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 3>If you want?

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:20.919
<v Speaker 2>He's very good at saying yes to a lot of things.

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.320
<v Speaker 4>Crash yeah, maybe does you want to talk about the

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 4>I p l getting posts.

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 5>Doesn't so much about the op There isn't that much

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 5>about the cricket.

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Does he know anything about footy's Yeah, yeah, it's Jared.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. You so want to, well, I want to.

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I know, maybe Crash can close the show. Let's forget

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 2>to the tips and cups. First, Gold Coast and Hawthorne

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 2>on Thursday night in Darwin, Mitch Hallahan cup up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 2>Hawthorne have traveled to Northern Territory on Monday. The sons

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<v Speaker 2>have obviously stayed in Darn for a long time. Rather large.

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<v Speaker 2>There's night game has just turned in two.

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<v Speaker 4>They're enjoying it. I will not be watching this game.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be able to keep of.

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<v Speaker 5>Course you will.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Billboards, Billboards the nightclub. Well it's a nightclub, Russell Street.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a nightclub. Yeah, you know, a couple of you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to Billboards.

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<v Speaker 3>First time in my life for everything.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think of. Oh, I don't know if I've

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<v Speaker 5>got you're reacting like someone who might have gone to

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<v Speaker 5>the just.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to sold like two point eight stars on

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<v Speaker 3>Google something like that, or maybe three point one.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, what's who.

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<v Speaker 2>Wins out of Gold Coast and Hawthorne.

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 3>I would tipping two point four. Yeah, Jesus, that's worse

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 3>than thes that. I'll tell you what salmonella are both

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 3>of those places. I'll go for the Gold Coast Sons.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think I think he's my logic. I think

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<v Speaker 4>the Bulldogs are better than Hawthorne, and Go Go has

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<v Speaker 4>already beat the Bulldogs, so I think they'll beat Hawthorne.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, right, Sidney and Carlton Ricky Mott, cup up for grabbing.

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<v Speaker 4>Martin, Yes, Yes, the cup of life will be given

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<v Speaker 4>to one of these team seasons.

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<v Speaker 5>These two big ones, Swans and Blues couple, Live and

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<v Speaker 5>Ship bangs, living.

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<v Speaker 3>The local please please. The best pre chorus of maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that's the intro that they actually take you close off

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 3>and dancing in the rain, the build up of tension

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.399
<v Speaker 3>before the chorus hits. It's an incredible part.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a good operator, Ricky.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, know what he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing playing Rod Labor in November?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he really?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually?

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<v Speaker 4>I Cat and I were driving back from here yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>and billboards which we saw a billboard of.

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<v Speaker 3>Course, Ricky Martin with Who's the She was a judge

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<v Speaker 3>on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Voice Rita Aura is like the Aura is the support act.

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<v Speaker 5>Who is thinks about Rita Aura.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe we could do a special podcast from the

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 2>from Billboards outside the Ricky Ricky Martin.

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<v Speaker 3>I would go, that'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually would go, it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, like three songs, but like what, I'm sure

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 3>there are the three?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Good?

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<v Speaker 5>He know you only know three songs? He to get

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<v Speaker 5>through the other ones? Can he do some covers?

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<v Speaker 3>He does some covers just to pad out the It's

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<v Speaker 3>like photos, do you do a cover just to pad

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<v Speaker 3>out the run at your back? Like the shitty book?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what I mean.

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Like, you know what, do you want him to color.

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 5>Up there? Because Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, Sydney Carton.

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Sydney, Sydney at home? Maybe yeah, I kind serious?

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:37.840
<v Speaker 2>They win this?

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know you are right.

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 5>You're right, mom tiving Carlson just because I want to.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good reason to tip them.

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Collingwood and Adelaide Ben Crocker Cup.

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:50.600
<v Speaker 3>These games are always close, and Adelaide.

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Gets screwed, yes, the last two times, like four in

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the last five games between these two. Inside of Isaac

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Rankin fifty yards, Jordan Dawstring. Yes, the Frank Kiggins.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think there's probably some other ones. Will forkn

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 4>would know them well.

0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 2>The fork is actually asked for this day off because

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:13.680
<v Speaker 2>he's got a lot of coming over Australia.

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 4>The reverse gather around, gather around the mcg yes to

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.239
<v Speaker 4>see Collingwood win Collingwood.

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 5>That's it, we both do that.

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:23.839
<v Speaker 3>Tip just broke for.

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 2>A minute for the Paul Coollery itis, your favorite, a

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 2>man who actually thrives off his being his cup.

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:36.279
<v Speaker 4>I it's not quite at GWS levels of the g

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Speaker 4>WS playing Gelong, but Likelid, I don't. I don't like

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 4>this game for some reason, even though Loong has a

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:43.879
<v Speaker 4>pretty good record against Port there, including the qualifying final

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:44.319
<v Speaker 4>last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes eighty it was almost eighty points, wasn't that was

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 5>out of reach.

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:49.879
<v Speaker 3>By the second quarter? Yes, Geelong, Geelong.

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 2>The Giants and the dock is for the Tom Sheridan Cup.

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.279
<v Speaker 3>Another man who would love the cup in his honor.

0:52:56.480 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 5>Giants, Giants, Dogs and Bombers Mark Alvy Cup.

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 4>Again, first big real test for the Bombers in a

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:06.720
<v Speaker 4>little while. So it's probably some Sanzac to aspos.

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 2>But I go the Dogs. Yeah, Live and exclusive on

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Fox Footing. What's the reasoning as well behind the two

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 2>four fifteen games or the two Twilight Saturday games and

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:17.759
<v Speaker 2>one Saturday Night get a good question.

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:21.120
<v Speaker 5>Maybe Seven's taking one of them in a certain state.

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how it works.

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 4>There's no overlap between what portcats and Jennibe's three or

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 4>the four fifteens are they?

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's very odd. Maybe we just wanted to give

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 3>the Bombers and the Dogs the spotlight.

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Richmond and North Melbourne another Fox Footy exclusive the

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Biggie Nuance Cup up for grabs.

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:40.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, grow great career he had, Yes delisted after a

0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 4>year of being traded.

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I think North should be better than this.

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 5>Interesting.

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I've had North higher in the power rankings

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 4>for a while because their percentage is better.

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 3>I think they're a better team.

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I've had a very good last three weeks they have, but.

0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 4>Richmond is three and six, the same as the Swans,

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 4>which is quite remarkable. I still think North, if there

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 4>are any sort of of what their list says they

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:02.879
<v Speaker 4>should be, should win this game.

0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll go North to Brisbane and Melbourne for the

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Joel McDonald Cup. Entrepreneur.

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 4>This game is weirdly close. Last year from memory, I

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.880
<v Speaker 4>think it was like a Thursday night game Melbourne was

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 4>up there at the Gabba.

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:18.759
<v Speaker 2>And then the year before that the lights went out.

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 5>Yes no, yes, no rival channels commentator.

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, we don't have to listen to him anymore.

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 5>So is his son marrying Yankee David?

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Brisbane?

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 4>Sorry a woman, Yes, I just I just wanted to

0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 4>make sure a certain repute.

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:39.960
<v Speaker 5>Yes, he always referred to the same way by the

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 5>Herald Son. Oh weird.

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 3>I wonder why what website would that be referencing David what? No, No,

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 3>the way she's described Australia's most anyway subscribes.

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Speaking Australia speaks club that win the podcast that we're on.

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:57.960
<v Speaker 5>It's not true Brisbane Brisbane.

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 4>But what does Melbourne of a bunch of Sunday three

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:01.799
<v Speaker 4>twenty games coming up?

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:05.720
<v Speaker 3>That's just the natural sort of spot. Why did Stefan

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:06.839
<v Speaker 3>want to show Melbourne so much?

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 2>And then West Coast take on Kilda? Lots of TV's

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.280
<v Speaker 2>and true for the bo Wilks slash bow Master Cup.

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 3>That's not true, they're away. It's Kilder. If there any

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 3>sort of serious goes to West Coast and wins this game.

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:20.480
<v Speaker 5>Yes, St. Kilda.

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, now he's Robert.

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 5>Did just say that you should keep clicking back to

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:31.759
<v Speaker 5>Fox that? Yeah, I'm just because I don't know if

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 5>I need to do it, Like if he needs to appear,

0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 5>does he need to appear? Does it mean to him?

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 3>Does it mean to him to because he has a

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 3>very distinctive speaking style and I'm just captured by it. Yeah,

0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 3>So if he was to appear on the podcast, would

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:47.280
<v Speaker 3>that be disrespect because I have a lot of respect

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 3>for him and what he's done.

0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:50.640
<v Speaker 4>I think you've put that forward. Are you saying you

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 4>don't have any respect for Michael Kaine?

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:55.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't, Michael Kine. I don't think it's any

0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 3>water off his back. I don't know, Robert crash cratic,

0:55:57.880 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 3>what the sort of how it's you.

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Would have caught him to get him on the line.

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 5>I've spoken to him before. He's a great and he's

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:09.359
<v Speaker 5>been great. Uh huh, it's good, Okay, all right, well

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.200
<v Speaker 5>here he is. Yeah, we'll just see the door.

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Folly work. You can't read open the door here, couldn't

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:19.360
<v Speaker 3>reach that they step step.

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Crash, Good of you to make up so much a

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:26.799
<v Speaker 2>time quickly as well straight down from Brisbane to join

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<v Speaker 2>see us out?

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