Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
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Speaker 2: dot com dot Au. Now what do sun Corp Stadium
Speaker 2: in Brisbane, Marvel Stadium in Melbourne, the Adelaide Oval and
Speaker 2: the SCG all have in common? Well, according to the
Speaker 2: numbers that were released today, they all have just enough
Speaker 2: seats for the number of people who lost their job
Speaker 2: in the past month. Think about that, Sun Court, Marvel,
Speaker 2: Adelaide Oval, SCG in and around fifty thousand seats. Thirty
Speaker 2: five seven hundred people lost a full time job last
Speaker 2: month seventeen thousand lost a part time, giving us a
Speaker 2: total fifty two thousand, seven hundred. The capacity of all
Speaker 2: of those stadiums is close to that number. Some a
Speaker 2: little up, some a little down.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but losing your job is
Speaker 2: one of the great fears of life. Obviously, we hope
Speaker 2: nothing happens to anyone that we know, let alone that
Speaker 2: we love, but certainly losing your job is something that
Speaker 2: a lot of people. Once you hit a certain age
Speaker 2: as well, you become frightened about because the bills always
Speaker 2: keep coming, and maybe you've made a series of decisions
Speaker 2: that mean you probably have to work a little longer
Speaker 2: than you ever planned on doing so. But think about
Speaker 2: that a football stadium of people who got the traumatic
Speaker 2: news that their job was over.
Speaker 1: Now today, some of the.
Speaker 2: Reaction to this is worth talking about because to me,
Speaker 2: it doesn't actually reflect the emotional toll on those people.
Speaker 2: To lose your job is traumatic. It is difficult yet
Speaker 2: because it's all just numbers, and the numbers are being
Speaker 2: interpreted by people whose either jobs are safe like a
Speaker 2: public servant or a politician, or they expect their jobs
Speaker 2: to be safe in the private sector, talking about it either.
Speaker 1: In the media or in the economic circles.
Speaker 2: This is how it all played out tonight on some
Speaker 2: of the television news is now. Remember the story is
Speaker 2: not the unemployment rate. The story is not the participation rate.
Speaker 2: The story is not how do we compare to other
Speaker 2: countries around the world. The story is that fifty two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven hundred people lost their job in just
Speaker 2: one month. That's an awful lot of trauma. Here's how
Speaker 2: it played out. However, on the six pm news, The News.
Speaker 4: Justin and the latest report card into Australia's jobs market
Speaker 4: has just been released. The unemployment rate remains steady of
Speaker 4: February at four point one percent. That figure maintained by
Speaker 4: a fall in employment by fifty three thousand people. Unemployment
Speaker 4: rate has remained stable at four point one percent in February.
Speaker 5: Is very satisfying to see the unemployment rate remains stable.
Speaker 4: The Australian Bureau of Statistics points to a fewer older
Speaker 4: workers returning to work over the past month.
Speaker 3: Big surprise in the sense that we did see a
Speaker 3: fall in employment.
Speaker 2: Now again, it is always interesting, like if a factory
Speaker 2: shuts down and it's going to be four hundred jobs,
Speaker 2: then you often read that in the headline. You know,
Speaker 2: factory closes or factory about to close, three hundred jobs
Speaker 2: at risk. If a chocolate factory closes down, they send
Speaker 2: out a reporter to talk to the people as their
Speaker 2: jobs are.
Speaker 1: Disappearing before their very eyes.
Speaker 2: But how is it that there's just no emotion at
Speaker 2: all about a number this big I was listening on
Speaker 2: the ABC, But earlier today, I don't have the example
Speaker 2: for you, Bob.
Speaker 1: It was this conversation.
Speaker 2: About, well, look, you know, seasonally in January, lots of
Speaker 2: people they go, they change their jobs. You know, some
Speaker 2: of the casual jobs disappear. But that's not what happened.
Speaker 2: Thirty five thousand, one hundred full time workers holiday pay, superannuation,
Speaker 2: regular guaranteed income or close to it, over fifty two
Speaker 2: weeks of the year gone disappeared from the Australian economy.
Speaker 2: Those aren't jobs are people who are hired in the
Speaker 2: lead up to Christmas and increasingly the retail sector.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of those jobs are front facing.
Speaker 2: They're often about putting things in the little boxes and
Speaker 2: setting them off because that's how people order things today online.
Speaker 1: So how did the Treasurer deal with this? Now?
Speaker 2: He knew instinctively that the media always gives the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt to a labor government. If this many
Speaker 2: people had lost their jobs in one whack in one month,
Speaker 2: and maybe it wasn't a government that most of the
Speaker 2: media liked, they would focus on the humanity. But because
Speaker 2: this is a government that they do like, and they
Speaker 2: hope that this is just a thing they cover now
Speaker 2: and the lead up to the giveaways coming on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: This is how the Treasurer spoke about it today. The
Speaker 1: labor force number today. I know you were out of time,
Speaker 1: but what does that say?
Speaker 5: Are you worried about what that number suggested in terms
Speaker 5: of it?
Speaker 1: Maybe a softening.
Speaker 6: Oh, we are seeing a bit of a softening in
Speaker 6: our labor market where we've still got incredibly low unemployment
Speaker 6: by historical standards, even with all the challenges in our economy,
Speaker 6: domestic and global, we've had the lowest average unemployment under
Speaker 6: this government than any government of the last fifty years.
Speaker 2: So I get it politicians want to quickly pivot out,
Speaker 2: but that is the reality of what took place today
Speaker 2: that in the past month that many people all of
Speaker 2: those different stadiums again from the seg to Suncorp Stadium,
Speaker 2: Adelaide Oval, Marvel Stadium, which packed to the gills, are
Speaker 2: incredible places to be full of life, but when you
Speaker 2: look at them empty, they are examples of the number
Speaker 2: of people who have families who have to deal with
Speaker 2: the trauma of losing jobs. None of that is the moment,
Speaker 2: of course, for celebration. But also we seem to lack
Speaker 2: compassion in often the way that we talk about these stories,
Speaker 2: and I'm not entirely sure why now. Of course, there
Speaker 2: are some parts of the media that will do a
Speaker 2: half day story on things like three million people being
Speaker 2: this close to homelessness, but you know, it's generally only
Speaker 2: this program that'll talk about it with frequency or with
Speaker 2: persistence or consider it to be a true test of
Speaker 2: how badly things have gone under the current government. Again,
Speaker 2: watch the way the media works in the next couple
Speaker 2: of days and they'll lead up to the budget. Remember
Speaker 2: what their reaction was to the two little too late
Speaker 2: tax cuts. They took the annualized number and said the
Speaker 2: average person will be oney six hundred dollars better off.
Speaker 1: But of course you.
Speaker 2: Don't pay your tax annually if you are the majority
Speaker 2: of taxpayers in Australia, and that's pay as you go.
Speaker 2: You pay it weekly, fortnightly, or maybe your pay cycles monthly,
Speaker 2: which is why the fourteen dollars a month figure for
Speaker 2: those earning around forty thousand dollars was the focus and
Speaker 2: why it was considered in my view, too little, too late.
Speaker 2: Other stories around today here that again we've lost track
Speaker 2: of where we are as a country if three million
Speaker 2: people are this close to homelessness, and another report says
Speaker 2: that younger generations believe you need three hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: a year that's the job that you need to be
Speaker 2: able to buy a house. And even then it's not
Speaker 2: the dream house, or even pay for the rent for
Speaker 2: the place you really want to live in, not the one.
Speaker 1: That you're currently living in. We've got a problem right.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: There are lots of solutions to all of this. The
Speaker 2: Greens will have a left wing populist approach to it.
Speaker 2: One nation has a right wing populist approach to it.
Speaker 2: But there's clearly a problem, a problem in the way
Speaker 2: our society feels, and the great golf and distance between
Speaker 2: and the numbers being spat out from a computer in camera,
Speaker 2: spun by the politicians, discussed by the media, and the
Speaker 2: reality of what is happening on the ground. And also
Speaker 2: there seems to be a real move to try to
Speaker 2: pretend that the great straw man of this campaign is
Speaker 2: not the failures of the government, it's not the lack
Speaker 2: of detail from the opposition.
Speaker 1: But apparently this election.
Speaker 2: Is supposedly some sort of faux referendum on Donald Trump
Speaker 2: because the very same news services that failed to mention
Speaker 2: the human cost of things desperately want to turn this
Speaker 2: election into some sort of, as I say, proxy referendum
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump. A story has been brewing for the
Speaker 2: past couple of days that our government and opposition are
Speaker 2: getting all hairy chested because they will not negotiate and
Speaker 2: will never give up on the pharmaceutical benefit scheme. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, no one is threatening the pharmaceutical benefits scheme.
Speaker 2: Some reporters who got in touch with the drug industry
Speaker 2: in the United States, and the drug industry apparently has
Speaker 2: a problem with it. But Australia is never changing Medicare
Speaker 2: or never changing the pharmaceutical benefits scheme, both of which
Speaker 2: fully exist under the current free trade agreement with the
Speaker 2: United States. And then again, another news service tonight has
Speaker 2: been able to find a lobby group somewhere saying that
Speaker 2: Australia should be punished for our attitudes when it comes
Speaker 2: to banning kids from social media. How is a football
Speaker 2: stadium of people losing their jobs in one month not
Speaker 2: enough of a story that you have to go and
Speaker 2: kind of make up the stories about the big orange
Speaker 2: man who needs handsome boy Albow to stand up to him.
Speaker 4: Team First it was tariff's. Now the Pharmaceutical Benefit Scheme
Speaker 4: could possibly come under attack from the Trump administration.
Speaker 7: Yes, Tash, there's a lot of nervousness around what the
Speaker 7: US President will do on a for second, when we
Speaker 7: expect another round of tariffs. The other worry for the
Speaker 7: government is a potential battle with US pharmaceutical giants who
Speaker 7: are currently lobbying the US President to impose tariffs on
Speaker 7: Australia to punish the government for making these medicines cheaper.
Speaker 7: They have called Australia's PBS scheme egregious and discriminatory, and
Speaker 7: they've urged Donald Trump to retaliate against Australia.
Speaker 2: There have been millions of people that have suffered as
Speaker 2: a result of this government being in charge for the
Speaker 2: past three years.
Speaker 1: Take your pick.
Speaker 2: Ten million people lost fifteen hundred dollars as a guaranteed
Speaker 2: tax return in the first Albanese budget. That fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: dollars that would have become three thousand dollars that would
Speaker 2: have become four and five hundred dollars the third time
Speaker 2: around would have been a serious amount of money. That
Speaker 2: meant people would have been able to do things like
Speaker 2: payer for a credit card, maybe buy a new.
Speaker 1: Fridge, do something to get through the year.
Speaker 2: Instead, No, that was all the way, and the money
Speaker 2: that had previously gone into that guarantee of fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: dollars for ten million workers has been spread about for
Speaker 2: political benefit, particularly on things like student debt and other
Speaker 2: little ideas which are about saving the Labour Party's backsite.
Speaker 2: So until you are four and a half thousand dollars
Speaker 2: better off, and that will not be coming in this budget,
Speaker 2: regardless of what they say that you are already behind
Speaker 2: in terms of the decisions made by government, let alone
Speaker 2: twelve interest rate rises, let alone the cost of living
Speaker 2: increases which have been so relentless over the past three years.
Speaker 2: And all of this, of course was from a government
Speaker 2: that promised to make it better. So rather than deciding
Speaker 2: whether you rehire the people who lied their way into power,
Speaker 2: there are so many very powerful forces in our country
Speaker 2: who want to distract you by thinking that rather than
Speaker 2: voting for the Australian Prime minister who has done a
Speaker 2: poor job over the past three years, the chance to
Speaker 2: vote against the American president, who the majority of Australians
Speaker 2: do not support, I do. You may, but that's their
Speaker 2: whole calculation, and I think it is probably going to work,
Speaker 2: which says a lot about the way that the people
Speaker 2: who are paid to talk about our country care so
Speaker 2: little about the people actually in the country that are suffering,
Speaker 2: who have been the people who have been punished by
Speaker 2: a government that promise to do better. Watch this space,
Speaker 2: because apart from running against Orange Man bad or trying
Speaker 2: to pretend that Peter Dutton is Donald Trump, and that'll
Speaker 2: of course mean that he has to say I'm not
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and then the right wing will turn around
Speaker 2: and say, well, if he's not Trump enough, I'm not
Speaker 2: voting for him. And we basically get twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: as opposed to twenty nineteen, where if you are on
Speaker 2: the set of right, if you are on the conservative side,
Speaker 2: if you are on the traditional side, if you are
Speaker 2: somebody who wants to punish this government, okay, you can
Speaker 2: vote minor party, but your number two preferent has to
Speaker 2: be four the Libs of the that's because they're the
Speaker 2: party that are the only ones who can form government
Speaker 2: to take it off Anthony Obernezi. And if that doesn't work,
Speaker 2: well then they just try to buy your Vonte, won't they.
Speaker 8: A seven point two billion dollar announcement today? Five million
Speaker 8: dollars ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars,
Speaker 8: three hundred and fifty million dollar, two billion dollars, thirty
Speaker 8: seven million dollars, eight hundred and forty two million dollar,
Speaker 8: two point four billion dollars, eight point five billion dollar,
Speaker 8: four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars, three point
Speaker 8: four billion dollars. The maximum amount they'll pay for a
Speaker 8: PBS prescription is just twenty five dollars.
Speaker 5: Stiment charmers will stand up, as you know, on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Night and outline all of our revenue and our spending measures.
Speaker 2: He made another multi billion dollar announcement today, but he
Speaker 2: didn't use the number. It's almost like somebody in his
Speaker 2: office might be having the job of hate watching this program.
Speaker 1: I don't worry.
Speaker 2: He'll eventually get back to it again when he's all
Speaker 2: cocky and thinks that he's about to get his second term.
Speaker 2: Pretty extraordinary, isn't it When a football stadium of people
Speaker 2: lose their jobs with the prime minister who's already told
Speaker 2: us that we're going into deficit, is spending that much money,
Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars and it's not even the end of
Speaker 2: the third.
Speaker 1: Month of the year. Now.
Speaker 2: I often like coming up with a little tag moniker,
Speaker 2: a nickname if you will, for the greatest prime Minister
Speaker 2: of all time, and we all know that it could
Speaker 2: be things like Airbus albow or Were's elbow because he's
Speaker 2: flying all around.
Speaker 1: Well, then of course there was upgrade albow.
Speaker 2: But the one that I'm kind of proud of because
Speaker 2: I think it actually says an awful lop really quickly,
Speaker 2: which is each way albow. I said it before it
Speaker 2: became Prime minister. I stand by it right on today.
Speaker 2: Says one thing, does another said one thing before an election,
Speaker 2: does another thing after the election. And I know there
Speaker 2: are some people in the camp of press gallery who
Speaker 2: hate the term because they know that it sticks. But
Speaker 2: it sticks because it's perfect example. Remember this government got
Speaker 2: all hairy chested banning TikTok from all government devices. You
Speaker 2: can't log into a computer in Parliament House, you can't
Speaker 2: use a taxpayer funded phone, or maybe just the phone
Speaker 2: while it's connected.
Speaker 1: To the WiFi in your office.
Speaker 2: And that were telling us this was very important because,
Speaker 2: among other things, TikTok is Chinese surveillance app.
Speaker 1: Is on government?
Speaker 8: Is it a risk too for the general population.
Speaker 9: Look, this has been informed by security agencies advice on
Speaker 9: work that's been done and provided to government. So that's
Speaker 9: the decision we've taken is around government issued devices.
Speaker 2: But I say each way albo because while one decision
Speaker 2: is that when you're using the Wi Fi in Parliament house,
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to go on the TikTok, But as
Speaker 2: soon as you go outside then you can use tea
Speaker 2: like many labor MPs do. Now presumably if they're being
Speaker 2: super safe, they're doing it on a private phone.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't that private.
Speaker 2: Phone at times be used on networks that are the
Speaker 2: very ones that TikTok is banned from.
Speaker 1: But nobody wants to police this because all these people, well,
Speaker 1: they want to be famous.
Speaker 2: And Paul Bergala, who was an advisor to Bill Clinton
Speaker 2: way back in the nineties, he referred to politics as
Speaker 2: showbiz for ugly people. You may all have seen a
Speaker 2: version of this one hundred times over, like Washington is
Speaker 2: Hollywood for the ugly, or even in the Turnbull Times.
Speaker 2: At one point he said modern politics is show business
Speaker 2: for ugly people. Now again I'm not passing judgment on
Speaker 2: physical appearance, maybe more so sort of.
Speaker 1: What's it there? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: And when it comes to the Prime Minister, he is,
Speaker 2: of course somebody who has made a decision that in
Speaker 2: the past three years, not only does every politician get
Speaker 2: a pay rise, public servant gets a pay rise and
Speaker 2: everyone who works for politician gets a pay rise. There's
Speaker 2: actually extra people who now work for politicians and what's
Speaker 2: the job that we pay them to do?
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty nine million dollars worth over four
Speaker 1: years to give.
Speaker 2: Every MP an extra member of star to cope with
Speaker 2: the increasing workloads due to larger constituencies and the growing
Speaker 2: demands of social media. Yeah, there are people who basically
Speaker 2: work full time on showbiz for ugly people. And there's
Speaker 2: one thing for you to turn up on television. But
Speaker 2: when you can be your own social media influenza, you
Speaker 2: get to carry on like this. Here are some examples
Speaker 2: of people inside the Parliament who I've got to say
Speaker 2: would be better off auditioning to host play school than
Speaker 2: pretend to be somebody who sits around the cabinet table
Speaker 2: making decisions for all Australians. One of them Anika Wells,
Speaker 2: the aged care and sports minister who loves a freebie.
Speaker 10: I feel the.
Speaker 3: Need, the need to explain our half a billion dollar
Speaker 3: in spending women's health through the lens of top gun.
Speaker 7: This one's for the lads.
Speaker 3: This is policy as pop culture, your pre election guide
Speaker 3: to the big issues.
Speaker 2: These people are able to host their own shows because
Speaker 2: Peter Kierlil This is the bloke who, of course was
Speaker 2: carrying on pretending the bosses, who wanted to be able
Speaker 2: to within small business, takes a big client to lunch
Speaker 2: and then write it off against their tax as sort
Speaker 2: of you know, monocle wearing top hat, owning cigar smokers
Speaker 2: his efforts.
Speaker 4: I hope you plays hod the no Peter, this is
Speaker 4: the mapping social cohetor report.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about Julian Hill.
Speaker 2: This is a guy who's really down with it.
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. He's a very special Christmas story. Tw was
Speaker 1: the night before Christmas went all through the house. Not
Speaker 1: a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. This is
Speaker 1: what they do, they say.
Speaker 2: It's important political communication, and it's important to reach people
Speaker 2: who wouldn't normally interact with no, no, no.
Speaker 1: This is about them.
Speaker 2: Making themselves sort of little local celebrities, or fingers crossed
Speaker 2: setting themselves up to be celebrities post politics. It's kind
Speaker 2: of weird, right you can't simultaneously be somebody who's carrying
Speaker 2: on like some of these people do on the internet.
Speaker 2: Oh but I'm also super serious and I can make
Speaker 2: all of the decisions. Pick a lane. Another example, I
Speaker 2: think this is a Greens MP. His name is Stephen Bates.
Speaker 2: What every MP got an extra staffer? The cost one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty nine million dollars and most MPs use
Speaker 2: that one staff to make them look awesome on the internet.
Speaker 2: But the absolute roll gold champion of this sort of
Speaker 2: baby talk on the internet is the person who at
Speaker 2: one point was responsible for the Australian Border Force.
Speaker 1: Behold clueless Clara O'Neill.
Speaker 11: Is that footy legend Basha will We? Is that champion
Speaker 11: runner Peter Bowl? Is that AFLW superstar Emilia Yes?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 4: What is that member for Will's Peter Khalil?
Speaker 1: Of this more?
Speaker 12: What do you say?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Some of my automos telling me to tell you you're
Speaker 5: telling me.
Speaker 2: And then if I offer any comment on this there
Speaker 2: will be a formal complaint so just imagine what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: Miley Cyrus songs that aren't Raally.
Speaker 1: Moore, ten health benefits of.
Speaker 3: Smiling, five habits of constructive people who want to work
Speaker 3: with others to get great outcomes for Australians.
Speaker 2: And all of this clearing is a message that is
Speaker 2: coming from the head office, because this sort of baby
Speaker 2: garbage is what is going on at the head office
Speaker 2: of the Labor Party, pumping out, you know, cool hits
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 1: We authorized p rickson ALP camera.
Speaker 2: Some of you decided to confront the Prime Minister about
Speaker 2: some of these rub which is running around now.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: I understand there's certain ways we appealed to certain people.
Speaker 2: Some people think the best way to get in contact
Speaker 2: with somebody or to tell what you're doing is to
Speaker 2: write an article for a local paper, be it in
Speaker 2: your city or maybe if there's one in your local area. Okay,
Speaker 2: I get it. Everyone is going to try to get
Speaker 2: into your social media feeds. But the baby talk stuff again,
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister was confronted about this today. He has
Speaker 2: no interest because he must be cool with it.
Speaker 1: The ustrating Labor Party posted this on Instagram.
Speaker 5: We're just wondering your thoughts on it.
Speaker 3: There many things you don't mind it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to look at a video, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you want lots of people to look at the video
Speaker 1: the video of.
Speaker 2: Somebody kind of faux stripping. But it's a Medicare card, now,
Speaker 2: I get it. Shows like this mightn't be the way
Speaker 2: that you'd like to get you news. Maybe you like
Speaker 2: things that are cut up in super short stuff and
Speaker 2: it's on the cool fine, right, And I don't mind
Speaker 2: the people who want to be the independent media or
Speaker 2: the social influencers who want to get the word out.
Speaker 2: But when it's the politicians who firstly are paid hundreds
Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars and depending if you're a minister,
Speaker 2: able to go to lots of stuff for free, who
Speaker 2: have staff members who are paid for by the taxpayer
Speaker 2: to exclusively make you look awesome, there's something kind of
Speaker 2: weird about it, right. I look forward to the endless
Speaker 2: trolling that will now happen on the internet. The any
Speaker 2: problem is I won't see.
Speaker 1: It now on this show.
Speaker 2: I have made many a time, many a point that
Speaker 2: sixty three percent of a bottle of Bundy rum is taxation.
Speaker 2: I talk about these so called vice taxes otherwise known
Speaker 2: as excise.
Speaker 1: This is the laziest way.
Speaker 2: That governments of all persuasions have made money for a
Speaker 2: very long period of time. Smokes, petrol and all the
Speaker 2: rest of it. And this government we know, despite the
Speaker 2: fact that they are totally focus on everything to do
Speaker 2: with cost of living, apart from taking fifteen hundred dollars
Speaker 2: off ten million people at once that, by the way,
Speaker 2: by now would have paid out four and a half
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to ten million workers.
Speaker 1: But don't talk about that.
Speaker 2: They want a gold star because they're not going to
Speaker 2: put up beer taxes for the next couple of years. Well,
Speaker 2: this is after of course, they have put up beer
Speaker 2: taxes and cigarette taxes and petrol taxes for the past
Speaker 2: three years, so much so that as you can see
Speaker 2: what they tax the little gray thing in the middle
Speaker 2: is what they plan to make out of it this year,
Speaker 2: and then the ones to the right of that are
Speaker 2: what they do next year, the year after that, the
Speaker 2: year after that.
Speaker 1: As you can see, this is the total.
Speaker 2: Way that they were able to get their million nine
Speaker 2: billion dollar budget surplus last year. It came out of
Speaker 2: those taxes, not great economic management. It was about smacking
Speaker 2: those people who use those things, and I must say
Speaker 2: I'm a little chuffed every now and then when other
Speaker 2: people decide to meet us where we have been for
Speaker 2: the past three years. I am every budget night for
Speaker 2: the past fifteen years. But props to the Herald forgetting there,
Speaker 2: whether you're sinking a beer at the pub, filling your
Speaker 2: car with fuel, or buying a flashy new set of wheels,
Speaker 2: a handful of taxes, widening the hole in your hip
Speaker 2: pocket and helping to bolster a budget that Treasurer Jim
Speaker 2: Chalmers will hand down on Tuesday. All right, let's take
Speaker 2: a quick break, we'll get into the debate. We'll find
Speaker 2: out who is going to be the winner or loser
Speaker 2: of the week. Or you need to do is send
Speaker 2: me an email to Paul. Let's go ONews dot com
Speaker 2: dot au.
Speaker 1: And do whatever you want on TikTok. Don't care.
Speaker 2: Now if you have been a committed view to this
Speaker 2: program over the past fifteen years, I've got a present
Speaker 2: for you tonight. Christy McSweeney and Darren Barnett together. As
Speaker 2: Darren said as he sat down, the last time he
Speaker 2: was here was when Trump was president. The first loving
Speaker 2: to see you.
Speaker 1: It's been too long. That's all my fault.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk now about something that I wanted
Speaker 2: to ask you both about this upcoming election. Who has
Speaker 2: the most Who has the highest wire act next week?
Speaker 1: Jim Charmers or Peter Dutton.
Speaker 2: Now, Jim Chalmers obviously needs to hand things out while
Speaker 2: simultaneously putting it on the credit card.
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton a couple of.
Speaker 2: Days later well has an opportunity to put a big
Speaker 2: idea that may well either seal the deal or reset
Speaker 2: the conversation, depending on where you think the polls are
Speaker 2: right now. So, Christy, who has more riding on next week?
Speaker 2: Dutton or Charmers?
Speaker 3: I think it's lineball for both of them, Paul, It
Speaker 3: could go either way. There's advantages and disadvantages for either.
Speaker 3: Certainly the Government's major advantage is that it gets to
Speaker 3: be the Jim Chalmers show instead of the Elbow Show.
Speaker 3: They get to have an excuse to hide the Prime
Speaker 3: Minister for some time and see their best performer and
Speaker 3: somebody who does resonate with that middleist. Only that thirty
Speaker 3: percent of the vote that both the major parties are
Speaker 3: fighting to get to that gives them an excuse to
Speaker 3: do that they don't have to worry about the press
Speaker 3: asking why is the Treasurer out front and not the
Speaker 3: Prime Minister, because we all know the treasurer polls a
Speaker 3: lot better. He of course has to announce a budget
Speaker 3: in deficit after going for the last three months with
Speaker 3: the phrase where the only government in the last two
Speaker 3: decades it's released two surpluses, so that narrative didn't work.
Speaker 3: They've had to bring a budget and it's going to
Speaker 3: be in deficit. For Dutton's disadvantage, he has to put
Speaker 3: together a budget in reply, which he wasn't anticipating to do.
Speaker 3: So that needs to be hefty and it needs to
Speaker 3: have some content and some substance to it. So advantages
Speaker 3: and disadvantages to both parties in a budget that nobody
Speaker 3: thought that we would have.
Speaker 2: Well this is because of course the cyclone, which is
Speaker 2: going to affect the budget for one point too. If
Speaker 2: anyone believes that seriously, Southeast Queensland was yes, I was
Speaker 2: there right, I was there shut down for three days,
Speaker 2: but people didn't lose their job as a resultant, But
Speaker 2: everyone who works for the federal government still got paid
Speaker 2: through that time. And New South Wales farmers are saying
Speaker 2: that there's seventeen million dollars worth a damage to northern
Speaker 2: New South Wales.
Speaker 1: So anyone who thinks, oh, you.
Speaker 2: Know, because the planes didn't take off for two days,
Speaker 2: the budget's in death police, we all know.
Speaker 5: But that is more flooded again though Paul, well, it did,
Speaker 5: but not to the same extent. I think they're kind
Speaker 5: of getting used to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sadly, its.
Speaker 5: Sadly, it's terrible, but look, I think the gym show
Speaker 5: is a good thing for labor, no two ways about that.
Speaker 5: He'll have to offer some cost of living relief. So
Speaker 5: it's going to be a goodies budget. It's going to
Speaker 5: be one where everyone gets a prized There'll be an
Speaker 5: energy rebate, There'll be payments for various bits and pieces.
Speaker 5: They're probably going to do a big ticket item on childcare.
Speaker 5: Do they do that then or do they save it
Speaker 5: for the campaign? Who knows. But I do think there
Speaker 5: is some pressure on the opposition. I'm not troubled by
Speaker 5: this narrative that they haven't got their economic policies out there.
Speaker 5: No one's really listening yet. But I think the game
Speaker 5: starts next Tuesday, and the first big question will be
Speaker 5: do they back in the rebates on energy and other
Speaker 5: things or not, and that sets the frame for the
Speaker 5: entire election because labor, if they don't back it in,
Speaker 5: look they say, oh, that might be inflation. But that's
Speaker 5: like Beasley when he opposed Howard's tax.
Speaker 1: Come.
Speaker 5: You know, I'd stand between a voter and a bucket
Speaker 5: of money.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've both got the ability to lay a trap.
Speaker 2: But that's that thing where look, institutional advantages to the
Speaker 2: government because you've got all that preview and all that sale.
Speaker 2: But then there's an opportunity that is there for the
Speaker 2: opposition because they're the last ones to put the trap
Speaker 2: down for again, how the government responds to it. It
Speaker 2: all depends about whether we go off to an election
Speaker 2: and the immediate week after or whether it's a cup
Speaker 2: weeks after. But something that I think is very different
Speaker 2: than all of the elections we've talked about over all
Speaker 2: the years, on all of the versions of backgrounds that
Speaker 2: we've done this show on.
Speaker 1: Which is half of all people vote early.
Speaker 2: Now, so to me, I think you have to make
Speaker 2: the assumption that the last day of the campaign is
Speaker 2: the first day of early voting, and then the entire
Speaker 2: early voting period is just hammering home the points that
Speaker 2: have already been made, not saving something for the Friday
Speaker 2: before the next Saturday, because people are making that decision
Speaker 2: nice and early. And what will be interesting is that
Speaker 2: I think that, yes, the expectations game is going to be.
Speaker 1: Particularly high in and around Dutton. But look at what
Speaker 1: he did do out of his.
Speaker 2: Two most recent versions of this speech. Nuclear energy was
Speaker 2: confirmed in the first, and cuts in immigration and foreign
Speaker 2: home buyers foreigners being able to buy homes, the ban
Speaker 2: on that for a couple of years that tests seventy
Speaker 2: three percent with marginal seat voters. Don't be surprised if
Speaker 2: I think the biggest idea they have on the table
Speaker 2: could be coming on Thursday. We of course have the
Speaker 2: pub test the following Monday, March of thirty.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 2: We've got a full house, and thank you to everyone
Speaker 2: who's already reached out to us where you'll be able
Speaker 2: to ask Peter Dutton whatever questions and I'll be live
Speaker 2: here Monday week here on Sky News. Now I want
Speaker 2: to talk about the trump of it all because it
Speaker 2: feels to me that there would be certain people in
Speaker 2: certain sections of the Labor Party who if they hold
Speaker 2: on to government majority or minority. We'll say we always
Speaker 2: had it in hand, guys, four D chess. We always
Speaker 2: knew that if Trump would get up, then we would
Speaker 2: do this and we would do that, because I think
Speaker 2: that the Trump of it all is going to be
Speaker 2: a big shadow and an echo over this election. And
Speaker 2: just like national security has worked for previous governments at
Speaker 2: previous times, I think a multiple week conversation about insert
Speaker 2: thing that they may or may not put a tariff on,
Speaker 2: even if you haven't heard a word from the White
Speaker 2: House about it. And we've had two of these now
Speaker 2: in a week, about PBS and also about social media
Speaker 2: in big tech. The White House hasn't said a word,
Speaker 2: but you get six pet news coverage for an imagined
Speaker 2: threat that the White House has not talked about. That's
Speaker 2: exactly where Anthony Albanezi wants to be, isn't it, though, Darren?
Speaker 1: Where he wants to be.
Speaker 2: Standing up for Australia and pushing back against a leader
Speaker 2: that I like that most of our audience is all
Speaker 2: in on. But the reality is in polling sixty percent
Speaker 2: of Australians don't like what he's doing.
Speaker 5: Well, certainly, if you look at the Canadian government, they
Speaker 5: were cruising to an absolute shell lacking and they're now
Speaker 5: back in front. Yes, I realized they share a long
Speaker 5: border with Trump, but that narrative that you described, you
Speaker 5: can roll that out a couple of times a week
Speaker 5: through the campaign and then you let Peter Dutton run
Speaker 5: the argument of are you TMU Trump or not? And
Speaker 5: that's unfair, but politics isn't fair. So if that's the
Speaker 5: story that gets resonance, and it probably will, he will
Speaker 5: be stuck to ending when the government will be putting
Speaker 5: little fires out that need to be put out by somebody.
Speaker 2: Well, and so christy to that point right obviously, I
Speaker 2: mean the pet Duddon's made it very clear long form
Speaker 2: interviews press conference as I ain't Trump, I am Trump.
Speaker 2: But that is going to happen, mark my words here.
Speaker 2: That's going to have a thing on the right right
Speaker 2: of Australia.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the far right, because that's
Speaker 2: where we start to give new extremism. But there are
Speaker 2: people who are all in on Trump who were going
Speaker 2: to say, well, if he's not trumpy enough, then I'm
Speaker 2: not for him. And then we end up at a scenario
Speaker 2: where who knows where preferences go, and remember nine percent
Speaker 2: is currently the polling number for one nation. Nine percent,
Speaker 2: so traditionally fifty to fifty when it comes to preferences.
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen it was basically seventy five percent of preferences
Speaker 2: that went to the Libs. If you've got seventy five
Speaker 2: percent of nine percent that's out there, that's what makes
Speaker 2: them competitive. So any free advice to the Libs about
Speaker 2: how to deal with the Trump trap.
Speaker 3: I think dun and I've said previously on the network
Speaker 3: that I don't think he's put a foot wrong. Labor
Speaker 3: knows he hasn't put a foot wrong in falling into
Speaker 3: that trap. They are trying to bait him. The Greens
Speaker 3: are trying to bait him as well. However, they are
Speaker 3: stepping up their attacks. The PBS confection argument, as you
Speaker 3: have pointed out, gives Labor an opportunity to put the
Speaker 3: words Trump and Medicare and Peter Dutton all in the
Speaker 3: same sentence. That's exactly where Labor wants to be. That
Speaker 3: is them escalating their bait. And so I think Peter
Speaker 3: Dutton's been very deft. I think he has played a
Speaker 3: very very fine line. But at the same time. Look,
Speaker 3: there's no doubt the coalition knows that nine percent one
Speaker 3: nation and actually Paul, on some polls one nation is
Speaker 3: tracking at thirteen percent, particularly in states that you wouldn't expect,
Speaker 3: states like South Australia. This is not an isolated Queensland
Speaker 3: poll tracking for one nation. Palmer also achieved five percent
Speaker 3: at the last election in Queensland, somewhat less in other states,
Speaker 3: but that is part of that. Those people who vote
Speaker 3: for that Trump like narrative, particularly more so Palmer, I think,
Speaker 3: than one nation, but certainly grabbing votes from the coalition,
Speaker 3: and it's going to be really, really tough. I think
Speaker 3: this election is a preference lottery, as you have so
Speaker 3: rightly described.
Speaker 1: That's the thing I mean.
Speaker 2: I say those one nation polling numbers and awareness about
Speaker 2: preference is not about assumptions about preferences.
Speaker 1: That's the understanding of the election.
Speaker 5: I think it'll be fascinating to see what happens in
Speaker 5: the sixth Senate spot. In most states, Yes, it's now
Speaker 5: in play for someone who displaces some of that coalition vote.
Speaker 5: They're not going to get three. In Queensland, it'll be
Speaker 5: a re elected Paul end Hanson or I think it's
Speaker 5: Malcolm Robbins at this time then or with the South
Speaker 5: Australia always kicks up someone unusual. Ralph Babbott made it
Speaker 5: last time in Victoria. I think that sixth Senate spot
Speaker 5: across the board, because it tends to go right rather
Speaker 5: than left, that sixth spot, that's what's going to be fascinating.
Speaker 2: Well also, I mean you know Lamby's running people everywhere,
Speaker 2: but also worth noting here too, And I'm not going
Speaker 2: to get full to the level of prediction that I
Speaker 2: can be held accountable for, but I have a little
Speaker 2: feeling looking at the state based results, legalized cannabis is
Speaker 2: going to go knocking on a door somewhere at four
Speaker 2: a Senate spot because of eventually the preferences that will
Speaker 2: wash from Labor to the Greens or Greens to Labor,
Speaker 2: and then where that ends up. Because I think there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of people on the left of Australian politics
Speaker 2: who don't want the craziness of the Greens, but they
Speaker 2: believe not just in the issue about legalizing cannabis, which
Speaker 2: has got two people elected in Victoria, got one person
Speaker 2: elected in New South Wales. I don't know finally what
Speaker 2: happened when it came to Western Australia, but they had
Speaker 2: two people in their Upper House until the most recent election,
Speaker 2: so that's one of those little ones.
Speaker 1: So I will ask the same question of both of.
Speaker 2: You that I just had have mentioned before again, I
Speaker 2: love this little Thursday group. May it continue for as
Speaker 2: long as you wish, which is, what's the one thing
Speaker 2: that nobody else has noticed? And I don't mean because
Speaker 2: we're all smarty pants, but because there's only so many
Speaker 2: minutes in a day, so many news bulletins around, a
Speaker 2: little trend, a little policy area, a little campaign thing.
Speaker 2: What's something that you just like everyone to pay attention to?
Speaker 3: Christy for me, Victoria thirteen states four to hold under
Speaker 3: four percent, five to regain that the coalition has lost
Speaker 3: under four percent, and four to acquire from libor. Now
Speaker 3: they're all under eight percent. But that's it. Victoria has
Speaker 3: never had so much focus in a federal election. I
Speaker 3: will say, you haven't seen a Labor Party machine until
Speaker 3: you've seen a Victim Vitorian Labor Party machine. And Darren
Speaker 3: will back me up here.
Speaker 5: So you've already got the red shirt on.
Speaker 3: I know, right, I know it's battle ground it's battleground Central.
Speaker 3: It's got the most skin in the game for this election,
Speaker 3: I think, but it's also got the most resources.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean personally my sense about Victoria's I don't
Speaker 2: think it is as bad as some of the police suggests.
Speaker 2: But that's when we're talking about all of Victoria. What's
Speaker 2: happening in the suburbs. I mean, because we know that
Speaker 2: by elections, labor in the suburbs is getting smacked around
Speaker 2: a bit here, right, So we'll see what some of
Speaker 2: those margins are.
Speaker 1: Darren, again, your big brain.
Speaker 2: What's something that just you know, you'd like just people
Speaker 2: to take note of before the weekend.
Speaker 5: I live in the set of Wentworth, as you know,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of my moderate Jewish friends have Ronox
Speaker 5: signs in their windows.
Speaker 1: That's the liberal. The Liberal.
Speaker 5: She's been doing a lot of outreach with the Jewish community, obviously,
Speaker 5: Peter Dutton's been very strong on it, and there's even
Speaker 5: talk of a nanty Semitic orse nanty semitic component to
Speaker 5: those coming into Australia. I think gold Steam and Wentworth.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that they will change hands, but I
Speaker 5: think there's a play on to try and convince as
Speaker 5: many Jewish voters as possible, including the Moderate Jewish statement
Speaker 5: who would have voted for Allegra and voted for Karen Felds.
Speaker 5: They are absolutely targeting that vote and it could be
Speaker 5: quite instructive on election day in those two seats.
Speaker 2: Also, I agree one without notice to both of you
Speaker 2: here before I get to a winner and loser of
Speaker 2: the week doesn't have to be a political Whatever you
Speaker 2: want from the news that's around this week is in
Speaker 2: it around the teals, the money behind the teals. I
Speaker 2: noticed tonight a Leegra spender and Zalie Stegelder both said
Speaker 2: we're not getting money from the tees anymore because we're
Speaker 2: up and running and we're our own little thing and
Speaker 2: we've left the nest. So they're not going to be
Speaker 2: taking Climate two hundred money. But they're up and running,
Speaker 2: and instead Climate two hundred will apparently be just moving
Speaker 2: there money to the.
Speaker 1: Lower profile teals or the.
Speaker 2: Ones that they think might become future teals. So watch
Speaker 2: that space in the next of the while. And if
Speaker 2: you live in one of those suburbs, I'm sorry about
Speaker 2: all of the signs you're going to see. As for
Speaker 2: the major parties that are fighting back against them. You
Speaker 2: got to convince people to put a sign in the
Speaker 2: in the yard or people think that the Teals already
Speaker 2: won the seat. Anyway, a winner or loser it for
Speaker 2: the week.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go I'm Frety mad Well. Winner of
Speaker 5: the week is the Richmond footy Club forty one points
Speaker 5: down and I don't beg for them. I'm an essent supporter.
Speaker 5: I know you are, but forty one points down people
Speaker 5: said they wouldn't win a game for the season. And
Speaker 5: the losers of the week Carlton, because I've always.
Speaker 2: Hated it, I've made nice to see you again again.
Speaker 2: You welcome back anytime, Christy your winner or a loser
Speaker 2: of the week?
Speaker 3: Mate, Paul, how can I go past here in Melbourne?
Speaker 3: The Grand Prix, the winner of the week? It remains
Speaker 3: in Victoria. It hasn't quite been stolen away to the
Speaker 3: Middle East or somewhere else quite yet.
Speaker 1: Sydney. It's here.
Speaker 3: Sidney hasn't nabbed it from us yet.
Speaker 2: They just add, they just add add the number of races.
Speaker 1: What twenty five last year. I think they'll be growing
Speaker 1: in the next little while. Thank you guys, do appreciated.
Speaker 1: Yeah you go we keep it. We're broke. We need Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you guys, do appreciate it. I have a
Speaker 1: wonderful weekend. All right, quick break.
Speaker 2: I want to stick with Victoria, but I also want
Speaker 2: to tell you about something that you might be able
Speaker 2: to watch this weekend that is one of the most
Speaker 2: important things you've ever watched. Which is not a way
Speaker 2: of hooking you into watching this program. It's a way
Speaker 2: of telling you about something that you are absolutely going
Speaker 2: to want to see more in.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching.
Speaker 2: Now, before we finish up for this week, I wanted
Speaker 2: to take a little bit of time to talk about
Speaker 2: two things at once. Him here Today we got confirmation
Speaker 2: of what we have known all the way along about
Speaker 2: the crime figures in Victoria.
Speaker 1: They have been terrible.
Speaker 2: We've spoken for as long as we've been on the
Speaker 2: air about the problems at the moment. Now, even when
Speaker 2: we showed you the crime statistics a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: there were people in the Turmbul Times trying to pretend
Speaker 2: that there's not really a crime crisis as Labour vows
Speaker 2: to introduce its toughest bail laws ever, is Victoria.
Speaker 1: Truly in a crime crisis.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what we learned today, Yeah, it's in a
Speaker 2: crime crisis.
Speaker 1: These stats this.
Speaker 2: Time came from the Victoria Police and they released about
Speaker 2: the number of people who have been arrested for what crimes,
Speaker 2: including youth offenders.
Speaker 1: His how it's explained on Channel.
Speaker 13: Seven, criminal offenses are up almost sixteen percent, theft from
Speaker 13: a car the fastest growing crime, up nineteen percent. Retail
Speaker 13: and car theft also up significantly, with family violence order
Speaker 13: breaches increasing by eight percent.
Speaker 2: Now we know this to be the case, but also
Speaker 2: while the total number of youth offenders is down, the
Speaker 2: crimes are up because a group of young offenders keep
Speaker 2: committing the crimes.
Speaker 1: Hence why there's a.
Speaker 2: Need for proper bail laws, which are currently being debated
Speaker 2: by the Victorian Parliament. For their part, Victoria Police is
Speaker 2: getting all tough when of course they should have been.
Speaker 1: Tough for a few years.
Speaker 12: Now we are and have reached levels of crime never
Speaker 12: experienced in this state, certainly since electronic records were kept
Speaker 12: or initiated in nineteen ninety three. We'll see more victims,
Speaker 12: We'll see more communities being terrorized, We'll see more people
Speaker 12: being injured. Potentially, they will see more people potentially being killed.
Speaker 12: The bar laws need to be implemented as soon as possible.
Speaker 2: So the light goes on for some including over at
Speaker 2: the turnbul Times that yeah, there's a problem, and the
Speaker 2: Victorian government trying to do a few things on the edges,
Speaker 2: hopefully will make some changes. But there are fundamental problems
Speaker 2: that are in and around the story of crime and
Speaker 2: particularly youth crime right across the country, but again quite
Speaker 2: specific to Victoria. And here's how I talk about two
Speaker 2: things at the same time. Now, let me be very clear.
Speaker 2: I'm a person who believes that there should be punishment
Speaker 2: for the person who commits the crime. This does not
Speaker 2: level things out because the person who's the victim is
Speaker 2: scared for.
Speaker 1: The rest of their lives.
Speaker 2: But obviously not every crime results in somebody going to
Speaker 2: jail for the rest of their life, so again punishment
Speaker 2: must be more severe. What I also want to mention
Speaker 2: here too is what is dawning on the people who
Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago were saying there's no
Speaker 2: crime crisis here. This again is what was in the
Speaker 2: turbul times. Cost of living and family violence push up
Speaker 2: Victoria crime rates to the highest level in almost a decade.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: I talk about cost of living every night. That's why
Speaker 2: we campaigned aggressively about the lockdowns that played out in Victoria.
Speaker 2: And while all of the Karens were patting themselves on
Speaker 2: the back that we must stay inside, we must stay
Speaker 2: inside because the woof flu may kill us, all the
Speaker 2: reality was that there were an awful lot of kids
Speaker 2: who may well have never committed a crime, who were
Speaker 2: forced to stay in homes that the last place they
Speaker 2: want to be is those homes.
Speaker 1: So I hope all of.
Speaker 2: The Ice stand with Dan crowd are proud because what
Speaker 2: you are seeing is one of the results of forcing
Speaker 2: people to stay with their captor. And again, it is
Speaker 2: always really complicated about a conversation about how to make
Speaker 2: sure that we can do things to prevent crime. But
Speaker 2: one of the things that we could do to prevent
Speaker 2: a generation turning to crime in places like Victoria is
Speaker 2: to make sure that if they need to leave their abuse,
Speaker 2: so they're able to not to lock them in the house.
Speaker 1: With the abuser.
Speaker 2: To try to offer as much assistance as possible to
Speaker 2: people who are having serious problems when it comes to
Speaker 2: cost of living, like say fifteen hundred dollars for the
Speaker 2: load of middle income tax offset. That guaranteed that that
Speaker 2: family would have had fifteen hundred dollars every year for
Speaker 2: the past three years before and a half one thousand
Speaker 2: dollars to help deal with the cost of living. That's
Speaker 2: why I talk about it each and every night. And
Speaker 2: I also want to point you to a phenomenal piece
Speaker 2: of television. I was up very late last night, almost
Speaker 2: up until the sun came up, because I had to
Speaker 2: watch every single minute of every single episode of a
Speaker 2: show called Adolescence. It's available on Netflix, and depending on
Speaker 2: how you watch Netflix, go and watch it the way
Speaker 2: that you would normally watch your Netflix. This is an
Speaker 2: incredible show and one of the most beautiful techniques is that,
Speaker 2: like a play, each one hour episode, and there's only
Speaker 2: four of them, is one shot.
Speaker 5: I'm arresting you on Suspicion of murder? Do you understand?
Speaker 5: Adolescence is not a who done it?
Speaker 1: It's a why done it?
Speaker 13: How did this boy end up in this place?
Speaker 2: You sor?
Speaker 1: And he's going to wrastle on Suspicion of murder?
Speaker 2: Now, The reviews are all amazing about the technical achievement,
Speaker 2: and that's absolutely the case, the acting, which is phenomenal, the.
Speaker 1: Father who is also the writer and creator incredible.
Speaker 2: But what I love most about this show and I
Speaker 2: just found so impactful that the second that it was over,
Speaker 2: I went and hugged the kids and told them how
Speaker 2: much I love them and promised to be a better dad,
Speaker 2: and all the rest of it was because it's not
Speaker 2: about a classic story of drugs or abuse or anything
Speaker 2: like that. It's just about howevery normal family ends up
Speaker 2: in a scenario where something really terrible happens because one
Speaker 2: of their kids has clearly broken the law. And while
Speaker 2: they're promoting this, the bloke who is the father, who
Speaker 2: is the writer, is saying this about what we need
Speaker 2: to do to stop kids before they become criminals.
Speaker 10: Our main name, if I'm really honest, The objective for
Speaker 10: me and Phil and for everyone that was involved in
Speaker 10: the piece, Jack especially, Do you know what I mean
Speaker 10: is to create conversation in homes with fathers and sons,
Speaker 10: and fathers and daughters and mothers and sons and mothers
Speaker 10: and daughters, to try and create that conversation about how
Speaker 10: to navigate the world today. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 10: Because I think one of the main aims we found
Speaker 10: as we were doing the research and as we were
Speaker 10: discussing it is how much the Internet and how much
Speaker 10: phones and laptops and iPads parents, but also teach our
Speaker 10: kids just as much as we and the school dude,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean today. So I think a
Speaker 10: lot of the stuff is coming from the Internet.
Speaker 2: It's an unwantivy show in the world right now, adolest
Speaker 2: It's on Netflix, and I guarantee it'll start a conversation
Speaker 2: we all need to have.
Speaker 1: Go Yankee, see you next week.