WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 20 March

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a gang come on into the band cave. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot to get through in the next hour. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday night is the one for the hard cause. The

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<v Speaker 2>true fans watch us live here on a Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for doing so. Remember highlights at sky News

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<v Speaker 2>dot com dot Au. Now what do sun Corp Stadium

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<v Speaker 2>in Brisbane, Marvel Stadium in Melbourne, the Adelaide Oval and

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<v Speaker 2>the SCG all have in common? Well, according to the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers that were released today, they all have just enough

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<v Speaker 2>seats for the number of people who lost their job

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<v Speaker 2>in the past month. Think about that, Sun Court, Marvel,

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<v Speaker 2>Adelaide Oval, SCG in and around fifty thousand seats. Thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five seven hundred people lost a full time job last

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<v Speaker 2>month seventeen thousand lost a part time, giving us a

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<v Speaker 2>total fifty two thousand, seven hundred. The capacity of all

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<v Speaker 2>of those stadiums is close to that number. Some a

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<v Speaker 2>little up, some a little down.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, but losing your job is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the great fears of life. Obviously, we hope

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<v Speaker 2>nothing happens to anyone that we know, let alone that

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<v Speaker 2>we love, but certainly losing your job is something that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. Once you hit a certain age

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<v Speaker 2>as well, you become frightened about because the bills always

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<v Speaker 2>keep coming, and maybe you've made a series of decisions

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<v Speaker 2>that mean you probably have to work a little longer

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<v Speaker 2>than you ever planned on doing so. But think about

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<v Speaker 2>that a football stadium of people who got the traumatic

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<v Speaker 2>news that their job was over.

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<v Speaker 1>Now today, some of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Reaction to this is worth talking about because to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't actually reflect the emotional toll on those people.

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<v Speaker 2>To lose your job is traumatic. It is difficult yet

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<v Speaker 2>because it's all just numbers, and the numbers are being

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<v Speaker 2>interpreted by people whose either jobs are safe like a

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<v Speaker 2>public servant or a politician, or they expect their jobs

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<v Speaker 2>to be safe in the private sector, talking about it either.

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<v Speaker 1>In the media or in the economic circles.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how it all played out tonight on some

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<v Speaker 2>of the television news is now. Remember the story is

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<v Speaker 2>not the unemployment rate. The story is not the participation rate.

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<v Speaker 2>The story is not how do we compare to other

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<v Speaker 2>countries around the world. The story is that fifty two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and seven hundred people lost their job in just

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<v Speaker 2>one month. That's an awful lot of trauma. Here's how

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<v Speaker 2>it played out. However, on the six pm news, The News.

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<v Speaker 4>Justin and the latest report card into Australia's jobs market

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<v Speaker 4>has just been released. The unemployment rate remains steady of

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<v Speaker 4>February at four point one percent. That figure maintained by

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<v Speaker 4>a fall in employment by fifty three thousand people. Unemployment

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<v Speaker 4>rate has remained stable at four point one percent in February.

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<v Speaker 5>Is very satisfying to see the unemployment rate remains stable.

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<v Speaker 4>The Australian Bureau of Statistics points to a fewer older

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<v Speaker 4>workers returning to work over the past month.

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<v Speaker 3>Big surprise in the sense that we did see a

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<v Speaker 3>fall in employment.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, it is always interesting, like if a factory

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<v Speaker 2>shuts down and it's going to be four hundred jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>then you often read that in the headline. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>factory closes or factory about to close, three hundred jobs

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<v Speaker 2>at risk. If a chocolate factory closes down, they send

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<v Speaker 2>out a reporter to talk to the people as their

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<v Speaker 2>jobs are.

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<v Speaker 1>Disappearing before their very eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>But how is it that there's just no emotion at

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<v Speaker 2>all about a number this big I was listening on

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<v Speaker 2>the ABC, But earlier today, I don't have the example

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<v Speaker 2>for you, Bob.

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<v Speaker 1>It was this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>About, well, look, you know, seasonally in January, lots of

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<v Speaker 2>people they go, they change their jobs. You know, some

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<v Speaker 2>of the casual jobs disappear. But that's not what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty five thousand, one hundred full time workers holiday pay, superannuation,

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<v Speaker 2>regular guaranteed income or close to it, over fifty two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks of the year gone disappeared from the Australian economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Those aren't jobs are people who are hired in the

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<v Speaker 2>lead up to Christmas and increasingly the retail sector.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a lot of those jobs are front facing.

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<v Speaker 2>They're often about putting things in the little boxes and

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<v Speaker 2>setting them off because that's how people order things today online.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did the Treasurer deal with this? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>He knew instinctively that the media always gives the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of the doubt to a labor government. If this many

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<v Speaker 2>people had lost their jobs in one whack in one month,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe it wasn't a government that most of the

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<v Speaker 2>media liked, they would focus on the humanity. But because

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<v Speaker 2>this is a government that they do like, and they

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<v Speaker 2>hope that this is just a thing they cover now

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<v Speaker 2>and the lead up to the giveaways coming on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how the Treasurer spoke about it today. The

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<v Speaker 1>labor force number today. I know you were out of time,

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<v Speaker 1>but what does that say?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you worried about what that number suggested in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a softening.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, we are seeing a bit of a softening in

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<v Speaker 6>our labor market where we've still got incredibly low unemployment

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<v Speaker 6>by historical standards, even with all the challenges in our economy,

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<v Speaker 6>domestic and global, we've had the lowest average unemployment under

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<v Speaker 6>this government than any government of the last fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get it politicians want to quickly pivot out,

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<v Speaker 2>but that is the reality of what took place today

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<v Speaker 2>that in the past month that many people all of

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<v Speaker 2>those different stadiums again from the seg to Suncorp Stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>Adelaide Oval, Marvel Stadium, which packed to the gills, are

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<v Speaker 2>incredible places to be full of life, but when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at them empty, they are examples of the number

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<v Speaker 2>of people who have families who have to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>the trauma of losing jobs. None of that is the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, for celebration. But also we seem to lack

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<v Speaker 2>compassion in often the way that we talk about these stories,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not entirely sure why now. Of course, there

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<v Speaker 2>are some parts of the media that will do a

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<v Speaker 2>half day story on things like three million people being

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<v Speaker 2>this close to homelessness, but you know, it's generally only

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<v Speaker 2>this program that'll talk about it with frequency or with

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<v Speaker 2>persistence or consider it to be a true test of

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<v Speaker 2>how badly things have gone under the current government. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>watch the way the media works in the next couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days and they'll lead up to the budget. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>what their reaction was to the two little too late

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<v Speaker 2>tax cuts. They took the annualized number and said the

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<v Speaker 2>average person will be oney six hundred dollars better off.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't pay your tax annually if you are the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of taxpayers in Australia, and that's pay as you go.

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<v Speaker 2>You pay it weekly, fortnightly, or maybe your pay cycles monthly,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why the fourteen dollars a month figure for

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<v Speaker 2>those earning around forty thousand dollars was the focus and

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<v Speaker 2>why it was considered in my view, too little, too late.

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<v Speaker 2>Other stories around today here that again we've lost track

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<v Speaker 2>of where we are as a country if three million

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<v Speaker 2>people are this close to homelessness, and another report says

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<v Speaker 2>that younger generations believe you need three hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a year that's the job that you need to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to buy a house. And even then it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the dream house, or even pay for the rent for

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<v Speaker 2>the place you really want to live in, not the one.

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<v Speaker 1>That you're currently living in. We've got a problem right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>There are lots of solutions to all of this. The

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<v Speaker 2>Greens will have a left wing populist approach to it.

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<v Speaker 2>One nation has a right wing populist approach to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's clearly a problem, a problem in the way

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<v Speaker 2>our society feels, and the great golf and distance between

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<v Speaker 2>and the numbers being spat out from a computer in camera,

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<v Speaker 2>spun by the politicians, discussed by the media, and the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of what is happening on the ground. And also

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<v Speaker 2>there seems to be a real move to try to

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<v Speaker 2>pretend that the great straw man of this campaign is

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<v Speaker 2>not the failures of the government, it's not the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of detail from the opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently this election.

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<v Speaker 2>Is supposedly some sort of faux referendum on Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>because the very same news services that failed to mention

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<v Speaker 2>the human cost of things desperately want to turn this

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<v Speaker 2>election into some sort of, as I say, proxy referendum

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<v Speaker 2>about Donald Trump. A story has been brewing for the

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<v Speaker 2>past couple of days that our government and opposition are

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<v Speaker 2>getting all hairy chested because they will not negotiate and

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<v Speaker 2>will never give up on the pharmaceutical benefit scheme. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, no one is threatening the pharmaceutical benefits scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>Some reporters who got in touch with the drug industry

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States, and the drug industry apparently has

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<v Speaker 2>a problem with it. But Australia is never changing Medicare

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<v Speaker 2>or never changing the pharmaceutical benefits scheme, both of which

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<v Speaker 2>fully exist under the current free trade agreement with the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. And then again, another news service tonight has

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<v Speaker 2>been able to find a lobby group somewhere saying that

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<v Speaker 2>Australia should be punished for our attitudes when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to banning kids from social media. How is a football

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<v Speaker 2>stadium of people losing their jobs in one month not

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<v Speaker 2>enough of a story that you have to go and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of make up the stories about the big orange

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<v Speaker 2>man who needs handsome boy Albow to stand up to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Team First it was tariff's. Now the Pharmaceutical Benefit Scheme

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<v Speaker 4>could possibly come under attack from the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Tash, there's a lot of nervousness around what the

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<v Speaker 7>US President will do on a for second, when we

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<v Speaker 7>expect another round of tariffs. The other worry for the

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<v Speaker 7>government is a potential battle with US pharmaceutical giants who

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<v Speaker 7>are currently lobbying the US President to impose tariffs on

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<v Speaker 7>Australia to punish the government for making these medicines cheaper.

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<v Speaker 7>They have called Australia's PBS scheme egregious and discriminatory, and

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<v Speaker 7>they've urged Donald Trump to retaliate against Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been millions of people that have suffered as

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<v Speaker 2>a result of this government being in charge for the

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<v Speaker 2>past three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Take your pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten million people lost fifteen hundred dollars as a guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>tax return in the first Albanese budget. That fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars that would have become three thousand dollars that would

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<v Speaker 2>have become four and five hundred dollars the third time

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<v Speaker 2>around would have been a serious amount of money. That

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<v Speaker 2>meant people would have been able to do things like

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<v Speaker 2>payer for a credit card, maybe buy a new.

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<v Speaker 1>Fridge, do something to get through the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, No, that was all the way, and the money

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<v Speaker 2>that had previously gone into that guarantee of fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for ten million workers has been spread about for

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<v Speaker 2>political benefit, particularly on things like student debt and other

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<v Speaker 2>little ideas which are about saving the Labour Party's backsite.

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<v Speaker 2>So until you are four and a half thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>better off, and that will not be coming in this budget,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of what they say that you are already behind

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the decisions made by government, let alone

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<v Speaker 2>twelve interest rate rises, let alone the cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>increases which have been so relentless over the past three years.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of this, of course was from a government

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<v Speaker 2>that promised to make it better. So rather than deciding

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<v Speaker 2>whether you rehire the people who lied their way into power,

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<v Speaker 2>there are so many very powerful forces in our country

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<v Speaker 2>who want to distract you by thinking that rather than

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<v Speaker 2>voting for the Australian Prime minister who has done a

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<v Speaker 2>poor job over the past three years, the chance to

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<v Speaker 2>vote against the American president, who the majority of Australians

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<v Speaker 2>do not support, I do. You may, but that's their

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<v Speaker 2>whole calculation, and I think it is probably going to work,

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<v Speaker 2>which says a lot about the way that the people

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<v Speaker 2>who are paid to talk about our country care so

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<v Speaker 2>little about the people actually in the country that are suffering,

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<v Speaker 2>who have been the people who have been punished by

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<v Speaker 2>a government that promise to do better. Watch this space,

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<v Speaker 2>because apart from running against Orange Man bad or trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pretend that Peter Dutton is Donald Trump, and that'll

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<v Speaker 2>of course mean that he has to say I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, and then the right wing will turn around

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<v Speaker 2>and say, well, if he's not Trump enough, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>voting for him. And we basically get twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to twenty nineteen, where if you are on

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<v Speaker 2>the set of right, if you are on the conservative side,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are on the traditional side, if you are

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who wants to punish this government, okay, you can

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<v Speaker 2>vote minor party, but your number two preferent has to

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<v Speaker 2>be four the Libs of the that's because they're the

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<v Speaker 2>party that are the only ones who can form government

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<v Speaker 2>to take it off Anthony Obernezi. And if that doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 2>well then they just try to buy your Vonte, won't they.

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<v Speaker 8>A seven point two billion dollar announcement today? Five million

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<v Speaker 8>dollars ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 8>three hundred and fifty million dollar, two billion dollars, thirty

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<v Speaker 8>seven million dollars, eight hundred and forty two million dollar,

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<v Speaker 8>two point four billion dollars, eight point five billion dollar,

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<v Speaker 8>four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars, three point

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<v Speaker 8>four billion dollars. The maximum amount they'll pay for a

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<v Speaker 8>PBS prescription is just twenty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Stiment charmers will stand up, as you know, on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Night and outline all of our revenue and our spending measures.

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<v Speaker 2>He made another multi billion dollar announcement today, but he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't use the number. It's almost like somebody in his

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<v Speaker 2>office might be having the job of hate watching this program.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll eventually get back to it again when he's all

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<v Speaker 2>cocky and thinks that he's about to get his second term.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty extraordinary, isn't it When a football stadium of people

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<v Speaker 2>lose their jobs with the prime minister who's already told

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<v Speaker 2>us that we're going into deficit, is spending that much money,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty billion dollars and it's not even the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the third.

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<v Speaker 1>Month of the year. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I often like coming up with a little tag moniker,

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<v Speaker 2>a nickname if you will, for the greatest prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>of all time, and we all know that it could

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<v Speaker 2>be things like Airbus albow or Were's elbow because he's

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<v Speaker 2>flying all around.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then of course there was upgrade albow.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one that I'm kind of proud of because

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<v Speaker 2>I think it actually says an awful lop really quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>which is each way albow. I said it before it

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<v Speaker 2>became Prime minister. I stand by it right on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Says one thing, does another said one thing before an election,

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<v Speaker 2>does another thing after the election. And I know there

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<v Speaker 2>are some people in the camp of press gallery who

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<v Speaker 2>hate the term because they know that it sticks. But

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<v Speaker 2>it sticks because it's perfect example. Remember this government got

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<v Speaker 2>all hairy chested banning TikTok from all government devices. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't log into a computer in Parliament House, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>use a taxpayer funded phone, or maybe just the phone

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<v Speaker 2>while it's connected.

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<v Speaker 1>To the WiFi in your office.

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<v Speaker 2>And that were telling us this was very important because,

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<v Speaker 2>among other things, TikTok is Chinese surveillance app.

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<v Speaker 1>Is on government?

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<v Speaker 8>Is it a risk too for the general population.

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<v Speaker 9>Look, this has been informed by security agencies advice on

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<v Speaker 9>work that's been done and provided to government. So that's

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<v Speaker 9>the decision we've taken is around government issued devices.

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<v Speaker 2>But I say each way albo because while one decision

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<v Speaker 2>is that when you're using the Wi Fi in Parliament house,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not allowed to go on the TikTok, But as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as you go outside then you can use tea

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<v Speaker 2>like many labor MPs do. Now presumably if they're being

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<v Speaker 2>super safe, they're doing it on a private phone.

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<v Speaker 1>But wouldn't that private.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone at times be used on networks that are the

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<v Speaker 2>very ones that TikTok is banned from.

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<v Speaker 1>But nobody wants to police this because all these people, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be famous.

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<v Speaker 2>And Paul Bergala, who was an advisor to Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 2>way back in the nineties, he referred to politics as

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<v Speaker 2>showbiz for ugly people. You may all have seen a

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<v Speaker 2>version of this one hundred times over, like Washington is

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood for the ugly, or even in the Turnbull Times.

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<v Speaker 2>At one point he said modern politics is show business

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<v Speaker 2>for ugly people. Now again I'm not passing judgment on

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<v Speaker 2>physical appearance, maybe more so sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it there? Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And when it comes to the Prime Minister, he is,

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<v Speaker 2>of course somebody who has made a decision that in

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<v Speaker 2>the past three years, not only does every politician get

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<v Speaker 2>a pay rise, public servant gets a pay rise and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone who works for politician gets a pay rise. There's

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<v Speaker 2>actually extra people who now work for politicians and what's

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<v Speaker 2>the job that we pay them to do?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred and fifty nine million dollars worth over four

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<v Speaker 1>years to give.

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<v Speaker 2>Every MP an extra member of star to cope with

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<v Speaker 2>the increasing workloads due to larger constituencies and the growing

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<v Speaker 2>demands of social media. Yeah, there are people who basically

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<v Speaker 2>work full time on showbiz for ugly people. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing for you to turn up on television. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you can be your own social media influenza, you

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<v Speaker 2>get to carry on like this. Here are some examples

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<v Speaker 2>of people inside the Parliament who I've got to say

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<v Speaker 2>would be better off auditioning to host play school than

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<v Speaker 2>pretend to be somebody who sits around the cabinet table

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<v Speaker 2>making decisions for all Australians. One of them Anika Wells,

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<v Speaker 2>the aged care and sports minister who loves a freebie.

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<v Speaker 10>I feel the.

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<v Speaker 3>Need, the need to explain our half a billion dollar

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<v Speaker 3>in spending women's health through the lens of top gun.

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<v Speaker 7>This one's for the lads.

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<v Speaker 3>This is policy as pop culture, your pre election guide

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<v Speaker 3>to the big issues.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are able to host their own shows because

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Kierlil This is the bloke who, of course was

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<v Speaker 2>carrying on pretending the bosses, who wanted to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to within small business, takes a big client to lunch

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<v Speaker 2>and then write it off against their tax as sort

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, monocle wearing top hat, owning cigar smokers

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<v Speaker 2>his efforts.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope you plays hod the no Peter, this is

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<v Speaker 4>the mapping social cohetor report.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about Julian Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a guy who's really down with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Merry Christmas. He's a very special Christmas story. Tw was

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<v Speaker 1>the night before Christmas went all through the house. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what they do, they say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important political communication, and it's important to reach people

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<v Speaker 2>who wouldn't normally interact with no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Making themselves sort of little local celebrities, or fingers crossed

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<v Speaker 2>setting themselves up to be celebrities post politics. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of weird, right you can't simultaneously be somebody who's carrying

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<v Speaker 2>on like some of these people do on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but I'm also super serious and I can make

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<v Speaker 2>all of the decisions. Pick a lane. Another example, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a Greens MP. His name is Stephen Bates.

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<v Speaker 2>What every MP got an extra staffer? The cost one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty nine million dollars and most MPs use

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<v Speaker 2>that one staff to make them look awesome on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>But the absolute roll gold champion of this sort of

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<v Speaker 2>baby talk on the internet is the person who at

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<v Speaker 2>one point was responsible for the Australian Border Force.

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<v Speaker 1>Behold clueless Clara O'Neill.

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<v Speaker 11>Is that footy legend Basha will We? Is that champion

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<v Speaker 11>runner Peter Bowl? Is that AFLW superstar Emilia Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Here?

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<v Speaker 4>What is that member for Will's Peter Khalil?

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<v Speaker 1>Of this more?

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<v Speaker 12>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Some of my automos telling me to tell you you're

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<v Speaker 5>telling me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if I offer any comment on this there

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<v Speaker 2>will be a formal complaint so just imagine what I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Miley Cyrus songs that aren't Raally.

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<v Speaker 1>Moore, ten health benefits of.

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<v Speaker 3>Smiling, five habits of constructive people who want to work

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<v Speaker 3>with others to get great outcomes for Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of this clearing is a message that is

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<v Speaker 2>coming from the head office, because this sort of baby

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<v Speaker 2>garbage is what is going on at the head office

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<v Speaker 2>of the Labor Party, pumping out, you know, cool hits

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<v Speaker 2>like this.

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<v Speaker 1>We authorized p rickson ALP camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of you decided to confront the Prime Minister about

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<v Speaker 2>some of these rub which is running around now.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand there's certain ways we appealed to certain people.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people think the best way to get in contact

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody or to tell what you're doing is to

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<v Speaker 2>write an article for a local paper, be it in

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<v Speaker 2>your city or maybe if there's one in your local area. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Everyone is going to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>into your social media feeds. But the baby talk stuff again,

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister was confronted about this today. He has

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<v Speaker 2>no interest because he must be cool with it.

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<v Speaker 1>The ustrating Labor Party posted this on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 5>We're just wondering your thoughts on it.

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<v Speaker 3>There many things you don't mind it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to look at a video, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>you want lots of people to look at the video

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<v Speaker 1>the video of.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody kind of faux stripping. But it's a Medicare card, now,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Shows like this mightn't be the way

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<v Speaker 2>that you'd like to get you news. Maybe you like

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<v Speaker 2>things that are cut up in super short stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>it's on the cool fine, right, And I don't mind

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<v Speaker 2>the people who want to be the independent media or

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<v Speaker 2>the social influencers who want to get the word out.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it's the politicians who firstly are paid hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of thousands of dollars and depending if you're a minister,

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<v Speaker 2>able to go to lots of stuff for free, who

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<v Speaker 2>have staff members who are paid for by the taxpayer

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<v Speaker 2>to exclusively make you look awesome, there's something kind of

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<v Speaker 2>weird about it, right. I look forward to the endless

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<v Speaker 2>trolling that will now happen on the internet. The any

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<v Speaker 2>problem is I won't see.

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<v Speaker 1>It now on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I have made many a time, many a point that

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<v Speaker 2>sixty three percent of a bottle of Bundy rum is taxation.

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about these so called vice taxes otherwise known

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<v Speaker 2>as excise.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the laziest way.

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<v Speaker 2>That governments of all persuasions have made money for a

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<v Speaker 2>very long period of time. Smokes, petrol and all the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of it. And this government we know, despite the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they are totally focus on everything to do

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<v Speaker 2>with cost of living, apart from taking fifteen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>off ten million people at once that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>by now would have paid out four and a half

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars to ten million workers.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>They want a gold star because they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>put up beer taxes for the next couple of years. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is after of course, they have put up beer

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<v Speaker 2>taxes and cigarette taxes and petrol taxes for the past

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<v Speaker 2>three years, so much so that as you can see

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<v Speaker 2>what they tax the little gray thing in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>is what they plan to make out of it this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the ones to the right of that are

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<v Speaker 2>what they do next year, the year after that, the

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<v Speaker 2>year after that.

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<v Speaker 1>As you can see, this is the total.

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<v Speaker 2>Way that they were able to get their million nine

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollar budget surplus last year. It came out of

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<v Speaker 2>those taxes, not great economic management. It was about smacking

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<v Speaker 2>those people who use those things, and I must say

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little chuffed every now and then when other

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<v Speaker 2>people decide to meet us where we have been for

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<v Speaker 2>the past three years. I am every budget night for

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<v Speaker 2>the past fifteen years. But props to the Herald forgetting there,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're sinking a beer at the pub, filling your

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<v Speaker 2>car with fuel, or buying a flashy new set of wheels,

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of taxes, widening the hole in your hip

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<v Speaker 2>pocket and helping to bolster a budget that Treasurer Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Chalmers will hand down on Tuesday. All right, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a quick break, we'll get into the debate. We'll find

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<v Speaker 2>out who is going to be the winner or loser

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<v Speaker 2>of the week. Or you need to do is send

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<v Speaker 2>me an email to Paul. Let's go ONews dot com

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<v Speaker 2>dot au.

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<v Speaker 1>And do whatever you want on TikTok. Don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Now if you have been a committed view to this

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<v Speaker 2>program over the past fifteen years, I've got a present

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<v Speaker 2>for you tonight. Christy McSweeney and Darren Barnett together. As

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<v Speaker 2>Darren said as he sat down, the last time he

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<v Speaker 2>was here was when Trump was president. The first loving

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<v Speaker 2>to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been too long. That's all my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Let's talk now about something that I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you both about this upcoming election. Who has

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<v Speaker 2>the most Who has the highest wire act next week?

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Charmers or Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Jim Chalmers obviously needs to hand things out while

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<v Speaker 2>simultaneously putting it on the credit card.

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Days later well has an opportunity to put a big

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<v Speaker 2>idea that may well either seal the deal or reset

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation, depending on where you think the polls are

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<v Speaker 2>right now. So, Christy, who has more riding on next week?

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<v Speaker 2>Dutton or Charmers?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's lineball for both of them, Paul, It

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<v Speaker 3>could go either way. There's advantages and disadvantages for either.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly the Government's major advantage is that it gets to

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 3>be the Jim Chalmers show instead of the Elbow Show.

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<v Speaker 3>They get to have an excuse to hide the Prime

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<v Speaker 3>Minister for some time and see their best performer and

0:26:56.480 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 3>somebody who does resonate with that middleist. Only that thirty

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 3>percent of the vote that both the major parties are

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 3>fighting to get to that gives them an excuse to

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<v Speaker 3>do that they don't have to worry about the press

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 3>asking why is the Treasurer out front and not the

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister, because we all know the treasurer polls a

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 3>lot better. He of course has to announce a budget

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 3>in deficit after going for the last three months with

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 3>the phrase where the only government in the last two

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 3>decades it's released two surpluses, so that narrative didn't work.

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 3>They've had to bring a budget and it's going to

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 3>be in deficit. For Dutton's disadvantage, he has to put

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 3>together a budget in reply, which he wasn't anticipating to do.

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 3>So that needs to be hefty and it needs to

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 3>have some content and some substance to it. So advantages

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 3>and disadvantages to both parties in a budget that nobody

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 3>thought that we would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Well this is because of course the cyclone, which is

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<v Speaker 2>going to affect the budget for one point too. If

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<v Speaker 2>anyone believes that seriously, Southeast Queensland was yes, I was

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>there right, I was there shut down for three days,

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 2>but people didn't lose their job as a resultant, But

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 2>everyone who works for the federal government still got paid

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 2>through that time. And New South Wales farmers are saying

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 2>that there's seventeen million dollars worth a damage to northern

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 2>New South Wales.

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>So anyone who thinks, oh, you.

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Know, because the planes didn't take off for two days,

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the budget's in death police, we all know.

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<v Speaker 5>But that is more flooded again though Paul, well, it did,

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<v Speaker 5>but not to the same extent. I think they're kind

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 5>of getting used to it.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sadly, its.

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<v Speaker 5>Sadly, it's terrible, but look, I think the gym show

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 5>is a good thing for labor, no two ways about that.

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 5>He'll have to offer some cost of living relief. So

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 5>it's going to be a goodies budget. It's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be one where everyone gets a prized There'll be an

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 5>energy rebate, There'll be payments for various bits and pieces.

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 5>They're probably going to do a big ticket item on childcare.

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 5>Do they do that then or do they save it

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 5>for the campaign? Who knows. But I do think there

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 5>is some pressure on the opposition. I'm not troubled by

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 5>this narrative that they haven't got their economic policies out there.

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 5>No one's really listening yet. But I think the game

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 5>starts next Tuesday, and the first big question will be

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 5>do they back in the rebates on energy and other

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 5>things or not, and that sets the frame for the

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 5>entire election because labor, if they don't back it in,

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 5>look they say, oh, that might be inflation. But that's

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 5>like Beasley when he opposed Howard's tax.

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Come.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'd stand between a voter and a bucket

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 5>of money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've both got the ability to lay a trap.

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>But that's that thing where look, institutional advantages to the

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>government because you've got all that preview and all that sale.

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 2>But then there's an opportunity that is there for the

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 2>opposition because they're the last ones to put the trap

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 2>down for again, how the government responds to it. It

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>all depends about whether we go off to an election

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<v Speaker 2>and the immediate week after or whether it's a cup

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 2>weeks after. But something that I think is very different

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>than all of the elections we've talked about over all

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>the years, on all of the versions of backgrounds that

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>we've done this show on.

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Which is half of all people vote early.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, so to me, I think you have to make

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the assumption that the last day of the campaign is

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>the first day of early voting, and then the entire

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>early voting period is just hammering home the points that

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 2>have already been made, not saving something for the Friday

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 2>before the next Saturday, because people are making that decision

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>nice and early. And what will be interesting is that

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that, yes, the expectations game is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly high in and around Dutton. But look at what

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>he did do out of his.

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Two most recent versions of this speech. Nuclear energy was

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:49.479
<v Speaker 2>confirmed in the first, and cuts in immigration and foreign

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 2>home buyers foreigners being able to buy homes, the ban

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>on that for a couple of years that tests seventy

0:30:55.760 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>three percent with marginal seat voters. Don't be surprised if

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest idea they have on the table

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 2>could be coming on Thursday. We of course have the

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>pub test the following Monday, March of thirty.

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>First.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>We've got a full house, and thank you to everyone

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>who's already reached out to us where you'll be able

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 2>to ask Peter Dutton whatever questions and I'll be live

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 2>here Monday week here on Sky News. Now I want

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 2>to talk about the trump of it all because it

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 2>feels to me that there would be certain people in

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>certain sections of the Labor Party who if they hold

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>on to government majority or minority. We'll say we always

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>had it in hand, guys, four D chess. We always

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 2>knew that if Trump would get up, then we would

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>do this and we would do that, because I think

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that the Trump of it all is going to be

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 2>a big shadow and an echo over this election. And

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>just like national security has worked for previous governments at

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>previous times, I think a multiple week conversation about insert

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>thing that they may or may not put a tariff on,

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>even if you haven't heard a word from the White

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 2>House about it. And we've had two of these now

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 2>in a week, about PBS and also about social media

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 2>in big tech. The White House hasn't said a word,

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 2>but you get six pet news coverage for an imagined

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>threat that the White House has not talked about. That's

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 2>exactly where Anthony Albanezi wants to be, isn't it, though, Darren?

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Where he wants to be.

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Standing up for Australia and pushing back against a leader

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.479
<v Speaker 2>that I like that most of our audience is all

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 2>in on. But the reality is in polling sixty percent

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>of Australians don't like what he's doing.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, certainly, if you look at the Canadian government, they

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 5>were cruising to an absolute shell lacking and they're now

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 5>back in front. Yes, I realized they share a long

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 5>border with Trump, but that narrative that you described, you

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 5>can roll that out a couple of times a week

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 5>through the campaign and then you let Peter Dutton run

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 5>the argument of are you TMU Trump or not? And

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 5>that's unfair, but politics isn't fair. So if that's the

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 5>story that gets resonance, and it probably will, he will

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 5>be stuck to ending when the government will be putting

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 5>little fires out that need to be put out by somebody.

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, and so christy to that point right obviously, I

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 2>mean the pet Duddon's made it very clear long form

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>interviews press conference as I ain't Trump, I am Trump.

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 2>But that is going to happen, mark my words here.

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>That's going to have a thing on the right right

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>of Australia.

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say the far right, because that's

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>where we start to give new extremism. But there are

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 2>people who are all in on Trump who were going

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 2>to say, well, if he's not trumpy enough, then I'm

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 2>not for him. And then we end up at a scenario

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>where who knows where preferences go, and remember nine percent

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 2>is currently the polling number for one nation. Nine percent,

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 2>so traditionally fifty to fifty when it comes to preferences.

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Twenty nineteen it was basically seventy five percent of preferences

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>that went to the Libs. If you've got seventy five

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 2>percent of nine percent that's out there, that's what makes

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>them competitive. So any free advice to the Libs about

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>how to deal with the Trump trap.

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I think dun and I've said previously on the network

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 3>that I don't think he's put a foot wrong. Labor

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 3>knows he hasn't put a foot wrong in falling into

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 3>that trap. They are trying to bait him. The Greens

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 3>are trying to bait him as well. However, they are

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 3>stepping up their attacks. The PBS confection argument, as you

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 3>have pointed out, gives Labor an opportunity to put the

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 3>words Trump and Medicare and Peter Dutton all in the

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 3>same sentence. That's exactly where Labor wants to be. That

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 3>is them escalating their bait. And so I think Peter

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Dutton's been very deft. I think he has played a

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 3>very very fine line. But at the same time. Look,

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 3>there's no doubt the coalition knows that nine percent one

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 3>nation and actually Paul, on some polls one nation is

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 3>tracking at thirteen percent, particularly in states that you wouldn't expect,

0:34:56.400 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 3>states like South Australia. This is not an isolated Queensland

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 3>poll tracking for one nation. Palmer also achieved five percent

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 3>at the last election in Queensland, somewhat less in other states,

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 3>but that is part of that. Those people who vote

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 3>for that Trump like narrative, particularly more so Palmer, I think,

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 3>than one nation, but certainly grabbing votes from the coalition,

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 3>and it's going to be really, really tough. I think

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 3>this election is a preference lottery, as you have so

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 3>rightly described.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing I mean.

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I say those one nation polling numbers and awareness about

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>preference is not about assumptions about preferences.

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the understanding of the election.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it'll be fascinating to see what happens in

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 5>the sixth Senate spot. In most states, Yes, it's now

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 5>in play for someone who displaces some of that coalition vote.

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 5>They're not going to get three. In Queensland, it'll be

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 5>a re elected Paul end Hanson or I think it's

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 5>Malcolm Robbins at this time then or with the South

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 5>Australia always kicks up someone unusual. Ralph Babbott made it

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 5>last time in Victoria. I think that sixth Senate spot

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 5>across the board, because it tends to go right rather

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 5>than left, that sixth spot, that's what's going to be fascinating.

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Well also, I mean you know Lamby's running people everywhere,

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 2>but also worth noting here too, And I'm not going

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to get full to the level of prediction that I

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 2>can be held accountable for, but I have a little

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>feeling looking at the state based results, legalized cannabis is

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>going to go knocking on a door somewhere at four

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>a Senate spot because of eventually the preferences that will

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 2>wash from Labor to the Greens or Greens to Labor,

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and then where that ends up. Because I think there's

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people on the left of Australian politics

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 2>who don't want the craziness of the Greens, but they

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 2>believe not just in the issue about legalizing cannabis, which

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 2>has got two people elected in Victoria, got one person

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 2>elected in New South Wales. I don't know finally what

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 2>happened when it came to Western Australia, but they had

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 2>two people in their Upper House until the most recent election,

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:06.439
<v Speaker 2>so that's one of those little ones.

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.399
<v Speaker 1>So I will ask the same question of both of.

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 2>You that I just had have mentioned before again, I

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 2>love this little Thursday group. May it continue for as

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 2>long as you wish, which is, what's the one thing

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>that nobody else has noticed? And I don't mean because

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:20.720
<v Speaker 2>we're all smarty pants, but because there's only so many

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 2>minutes in a day, so many news bulletins around, a

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 2>little trend, a little policy area, a little campaign thing.

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>What's something that you just like everyone to pay attention to?

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<v Speaker 3>Christy for me, Victoria thirteen states four to hold under

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 3>four percent, five to regain that the coalition has lost

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 3>under four percent, and four to acquire from libor. Now

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:52.439
<v Speaker 3>they're all under eight percent. But that's it. Victoria has

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 3>never had so much focus in a federal election. I

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 3>will say, you haven't seen a Labor Party machine until

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 3>you've seen a Victim Vitorian Labor Party machine. And Darren

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<v Speaker 3>will back me up here.

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<v Speaker 5>So you've already got the red shirt on.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, right, I know it's battle ground it's battleground Central.

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 3>It's got the most skin in the game for this election,

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I think, but it's also got the most resources.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean personally my sense about Victoria's I don't

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>think it is as bad as some of the police suggests.

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.919
<v Speaker 2>But that's when we're talking about all of Victoria. What's

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 2>happening in the suburbs. I mean, because we know that

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 2>by elections, labor in the suburbs is getting smacked around

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 2>a bit here, right, So we'll see what some of

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 2>those margins are.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Darren, again, your big brain.

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<v Speaker 2>What's something that just you know, you'd like just people

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<v Speaker 2>to take note of before the weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>I live in the set of Wentworth, as you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of my moderate Jewish friends have Ronox

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 5>signs in their windows.

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the liberal. The Liberal.

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.760
<v Speaker 5>She's been doing a lot of outreach with the Jewish community, obviously,

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.439
<v Speaker 5>Peter Dutton's been very strong on it, and there's even

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 5>talk of a nanty Semitic orse nanty semitic component to

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 5>those coming into Australia. I think gold Steam and Wentworth.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying that they will change hands, but I

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:16.399
<v Speaker 5>think there's a play on to try and convince as

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 5>many Jewish voters as possible, including the Moderate Jewish statement

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.800
<v Speaker 5>who would have voted for Allegra and voted for Karen Felds.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 5>They are absolutely targeting that vote and it could be

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 5>quite instructive on election day in those two seats.

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Also, I agree one without notice to both of you

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 2>here before I get to a winner and loser of

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 2>the week doesn't have to be a political Whatever you

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>want from the news that's around this week is in

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 2>it around the teals, the money behind the teals. I

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 2>noticed tonight a Leegra spender and Zalie Stegelder both said

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 2>we're not getting money from the tees anymore because we're

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 2>up and running and we're our own little thing and

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 2>we've left the nest. So they're not going to be

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 2>taking Climate two hundred money. But they're up and running,

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.439
<v Speaker 2>and instead Climate two hundred will apparently be just moving

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>there money to the.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Lower profile teals or the.

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Ones that they think might become future teals. So watch

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that space in the next of the while. And if

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you live in one of those suburbs, I'm sorry about

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 2>all of the signs you're going to see. As for

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>the major parties that are fighting back against them. You

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>got to convince people to put a sign in the

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 2>in the yard or people think that the Teals already

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 2>won the seat. Anyway, a winner or loser it for

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the week.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to go I'm Frety mad Well. Winner of

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 5>the week is the Richmond footy Club forty one points

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 5>down and I don't beg for them. I'm an essent supporter.

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 5>I know you are, but forty one points down people

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 5>said they wouldn't win a game for the season. And

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 5>the losers of the week Carlton, because I've always.

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.959
<v Speaker 2>Hated it, I've made nice to see you again again.

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 2>You welcome back anytime, Christy your winner or a loser

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>of the week?

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<v Speaker 3>Mate, Paul, how can I go past here in Melbourne?

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 3>The Grand Prix, the winner of the week? It remains

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 3>in Victoria. It hasn't quite been stolen away to the

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Middle East or somewhere else quite yet.

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Sydney. It's here.

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Sidney hasn't nabbed it from us yet.

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 2>They just add, they just add add the number of races.

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>What twenty five last year. I think they'll be growing

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 1>in the next little while. Thank you guys, do appreciated.

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you go we keep it. We're broke. We need Yeah.

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you guys, do appreciate it. I have a

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>wonderful weekend. All right, quick break.

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to stick with Victoria, but I also want

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 2>to tell you about something that you might be able

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>to watch this weekend that is one of the most

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 2>important things you've ever watched. Which is not a way

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 2>of hooking you into watching this program. It's a way

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 2>of telling you about something that you are absolutely going

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 2>to want to see more in.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for watching.

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Now, before we finish up for this week, I wanted

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 2>to take a little bit of time to talk about

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 2>two things at once. Him here Today we got confirmation

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 2>of what we have known all the way along about

0:41:58.040 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 2>the crime figures in Victoria.

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>They have been terrible.

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 2>We've spoken for as long as we've been on the

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 2>air about the problems at the moment. Now, even when

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:08.919
<v Speaker 2>we showed you the crime statistics a couple of weeks ago,

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 2>there were people in the Turmbul Times trying to pretend

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 2>that there's not really a crime crisis as Labour vows

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 2>to introduce its toughest bail laws ever, is Victoria.

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Truly in a crime crisis.

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, guess what we learned today, Yeah, it's in a

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>crime crisis.

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:27.879
<v Speaker 1>These stats this.

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Time came from the Victoria Police and they released about

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>the number of people who have been arrested for what crimes,

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 2>including youth offenders.

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 1>His how it's explained on Channel.

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<v Speaker 13>Seven, criminal offenses are up almost sixteen percent, theft from

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 13>a car the fastest growing crime, up nineteen percent. Retail

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 13>and car theft also up significantly, with family violence order

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.280
<v Speaker 13>breaches increasing by eight percent.

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Now we know this to be the case, but also

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 2>while the total number of youth offenders is down, the

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 2>crimes are up because a group of young offenders keep

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:10.840
<v Speaker 2>committing the crimes.

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Hence why there's a.

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Need for proper bail laws, which are currently being debated

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 2>by the Victorian Parliament. For their part, Victoria Police is

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>getting all tough when of course they should have been.

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Tough for a few years.

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:27.479
<v Speaker 12>Now we are and have reached levels of crime never

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 12>experienced in this state, certainly since electronic records were kept

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 12>or initiated in nineteen ninety three. We'll see more victims,

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:42.720
<v Speaker 12>We'll see more communities being terrorized, We'll see more people

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 12>being injured. Potentially, they will see more people potentially being killed.

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 12>The bar laws need to be implemented as soon as possible.

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 2>So the light goes on for some including over at

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 2>the turnbul Times that yeah, there's a problem, and the

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Victorian government trying to do a few things on the edges,

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>hopefully will make some changes. But there are fundamental problems

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>that are in and around the story of crime and

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 2>particularly youth crime right across the country, but again quite

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:13.439
<v Speaker 2>specific to Victoria. And here's how I talk about two

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.760
<v Speaker 2>things at the same time. Now, let me be very clear.

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm a person who believes that there should be punishment

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 2>for the person who commits the crime. This does not

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 2>level things out because the person who's the victim is

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 2>scared for.

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>The rest of their lives.

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 2>But obviously not every crime results in somebody going to

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 2>jail for the rest of their life, so again punishment

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 2>must be more severe. What I also want to mention

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 2>here too is what is dawning on the people who

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 2>just a couple of weeks ago were saying there's no

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 2>crime crisis here. This again is what was in the

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 2>turbul times. Cost of living and family violence push up

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Victoria crime rates to the highest level in almost a decade.

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>That's why.

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I talk about cost of living every night. That's why

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 2>we campaigned aggressively about the lockdowns that played out in Victoria.

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 2>And while all of the Karens were patting themselves on

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:20.479
<v Speaker 2>the back that we must stay inside, we must stay

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 2>inside because the woof flu may kill us, all the

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>reality was that there were an awful lot of kids

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>who may well have never committed a crime, who were

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 2>forced to stay in homes that the last place they

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 2>want to be is those homes.

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:36.399
<v Speaker 1>So I hope all of.

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 2>The Ice stand with Dan crowd are proud because what

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:44.800
<v Speaker 2>you are seeing is one of the results of forcing

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 2>people to stay with their captor. And again, it is

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>always really complicated about a conversation about how to make

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>sure that we can do things to prevent crime. But

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 2>one of the things that we could do to prevent

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 2>a generation turning to crime in places like Victoria is

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that if they need to leave their abuse,

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 2>so they're able to not to lock them in the house.

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>With the abuser.

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 2>To try to offer as much assistance as possible to

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:16.799
<v Speaker 2>people who are having serious problems when it comes to

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 2>cost of living, like say fifteen hundred dollars for the

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 2>load of middle income tax offset. That guaranteed that that

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 2>family would have had fifteen hundred dollars every year for

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the past three years before and a half one thousand

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 2>dollars to help deal with the cost of living. That's

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 2>why I talk about it each and every night. And

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 2>I also want to point you to a phenomenal piece

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:39.399
<v Speaker 2>of television. I was up very late last night, almost

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 2>up until the sun came up, because I had to

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 2>watch every single minute of every single episode of a

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 2>show called Adolescence. It's available on Netflix, and depending on

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 2>how you watch Netflix, go and watch it the way

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 2>that you would normally watch your Netflix. This is an

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 2>incredible show and one of the most beautiful techniques is that,

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 2>like a play, each one hour episode, and there's only

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 2>four of them, is one shot.

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm arresting you on Suspicion of murder? Do you understand?

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 5>Adolescence is not a who done it?

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a why done it?

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 13>How did this boy end up in this place?

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 2>You sor?

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:15.720
<v Speaker 1>And he's going to wrastle on Suspicion of murder?

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Now, The reviews are all amazing about the technical achievement,

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and that's absolutely the case, the acting, which is phenomenal, the.

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Father who is also the writer and creator incredible.

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 2>But what I love most about this show and I

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 2>just found so impactful that the second that it was over,

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I went and hugged the kids and told them how

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 2>much I love them and promised to be a better dad,

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 2>and all the rest of it was because it's not

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 2>about a classic story of drugs or abuse or anything

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 2>like that. It's just about howevery normal family ends up

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 2>in a scenario where something really terrible happens because one

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 2>of their kids has clearly broken the law. And while

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 2>they're promoting this, the bloke who is the father, who

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 2>is the writer, is saying this about what we need

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 2>to do to stop kids before they become criminals.

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 10>Our main name, if I'm really honest, The objective for

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 10>me and Phil and for everyone that was involved in

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 10>the piece, Jack especially, Do you know what I mean

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 10>is to create conversation in homes with fathers and sons,

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 10>and fathers and daughters and mothers and sons and mothers

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 10>and daughters, to try and create that conversation about how

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 10>to navigate the world today. Do you know what I mean?

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Really?

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.760
<v Speaker 10>Because I think one of the main aims we found

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 10>as we were doing the research and as we were

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 10>discussing it is how much the Internet and how much

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 10>phones and laptops and iPads parents, but also teach our

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 10>kids just as much as we and the school dude,

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 10>you know what I mean today. So I think a

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 10>lot of the stuff is coming from the Internet.

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 2>It's an unwantivy show in the world right now, adolest

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.800
<v Speaker 2>It's on Netflix, and I guarantee it'll start a conversation

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 2>we all need to have.

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Go Yankee, see you next week.