1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: You deal with all the big issues, literally the big issues, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: and I think you said, well, I was really lucky 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: for the way you've been dealing with the big issues. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: But what's interesting is that this is a small issue, 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: but you still manage to be able to lean into 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: small issues. And I should say to you, this whole 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: thing is the Premier's initiative. He saw me about it, 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: but I only took control and so to speak, because 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: he's too busy tell you. 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: The big issues, really big issues. I mean, what is 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: it that sort of drew you to helping joking out? 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: What was it that deal to you? 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: Well, Mark, I'm deeply indebted to you for doing this 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: that you don't have to do it, and you put 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: it together a really short batus and obviously you've got 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: a big heart, you care about these things. 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 4: I think it's I'm very very grateful. 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: But I had a chat to you about having gone 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: on to Maury quite a few times. Maury is a 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: pretty tough town. It's got a lot of a lot 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: of crime issues. 22 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 4: There's many underprivileged kids. 23 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: It's it's very difficult for a lot of family and 24 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: they've had run, particularly for the last ten years. 25 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: And I've been out there quite a few times, really. 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: If I'm going to be honest, off the back of 27 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: some very troubling clients, wanted to see through myself first hand. 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: And the interesting thing about the city though, is that 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: it's got a lot of hard there's. 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: A genuine people. 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: And in the midst of going to see victims of 32 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: crime and the new Southlast police and the local court, 33 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: someone said, you've got to go out to this boxing 34 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: gym because you don't want to leave Maury. 35 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: With bad taste in your mouth. 36 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: So I went out there men Chalky, met some of 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: the guys that run it and came up. Rather than 38 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: being dispirited and thinking, oh, there's going to be no 39 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: way through. 40 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: This is a town in terminal as a client, I. 41 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: Went away think you're absolutely opposite. There's some fantastic people here. 42 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: Let's build on the success that's already rather than try 43 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: to reinvent the will and create something ourselves from a 44 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: quarry street or the middle of Sydney, why don't we 45 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: build on the success that's already been dealt with with 46 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: joking and maybe you can tell us what chalk he does. 47 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: We'll get chalkis reps up here to remember what do 48 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: you think, what is the success? 49 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: What is it that you saw as a let's call 50 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: it an outsider. 51 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: Well, it was presented to me as a gym, boxing gym. 52 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 4: Go and check out this boxing gym. 53 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: But when I actually got there, we extended the time 54 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: as long as I possibly could, and we went upstairs 55 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: and short we had fitted out all of the spare rooms. 56 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 3: This is a factory adjacent to an auto repair shop, 57 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: I mean, but on the second floor he fitted it 58 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: out with couches. 59 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 5: Couching is roem. 60 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 4: Another couching is rouem, another catching the room, and some 61 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: mattresses on the floor in your further room. It was 62 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: all immaculately clean. And I said, what's going on here? 63 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: And he said, oftentimes too days for the kids to 64 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: get home, or they'll tell me Mum and Dada not 65 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: in a good way. And rather than working in a 66 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: dangerous situation, we don't make any fuss about it. 67 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: We just let them bump him in. 68 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: I mean, this stuff happened is completely unheralded. Day after day, 69 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: no one would ever know about it. It's just at 70 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: the very end of a long visit, Chalking mentioned to 71 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: me that in it this is the running in gym, 72 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: getting kids up the. 73 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: Stream, giving them some wide skills. 74 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: He's also acting as emergency accommodation. 75 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: For nothing, So I mean, I think that gives you 76 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: the indication of what they're doing there the good people. 77 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: Most people don't realize is that Chris is a fan 78 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: of boxing and an avan of MMA. 79 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: You probably saw his UFC encouragement the. 80 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: USC and the contract that you said last stop has 81 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: done with the UFC, and I think they've got. 82 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: One more year on that. 83 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: Next year, I think that would be direct, So yeah, 84 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: one more, But we're talking with them, and I'm trying 85 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: to think this annual events going to Sydney. 86 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: Blom's got these big annual events. 87 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: I think we need to bestus that people can play 88 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: around it, prepare every year for the UFC or probably 89 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: one great Tian whatever. 90 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: And so where did your interest in combat sports come from? 91 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 5: I like the USC. 92 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: I'm a fan of it, but nowhere near as much 93 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: as I'm a fan of boxing. 94 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: And I still think it is as exciting at the 95 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: moment that it's been in many many years. 96 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: And I, like a lot of people, I think we've 97 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: discussed it before. 98 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: I get him YouTube black holes where I'll watch endless 99 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: videos about music and how as the south Port he 100 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: just gets on the outside. 101 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: Of Duboir, how he knocked out Joshua and he've been 102 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: Tyson Fury twice. 103 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 3: I mean, it's exciting to see a cruiser way step 104 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: up to that division and just completely dominated. And also 105 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: to be such a humble person. I mean, I love 106 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: the way he goes about life. 107 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: It feels to me like he's an absolutely gentleman, but 108 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 4: more importantly. 109 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: Boxing secondary to how he goes about living and the 110 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: way that he puts out this incredibly positive energy in 111 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: the world, particularly being from the Ukraine and representing a 112 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: country that's kind of war at the moment. 113 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: It's inspired. 114 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: It just just to close it out because I guess 115 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: what I'm what I find amazing is because I've pat 116 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: a few many premiers of this statement in fact, and 117 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: I like bold Car, but I remember I took bold 118 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: Cart in the state of Origin when I was sponsoring 119 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: New south Wells and you didn't know, you know, to 120 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: stream Rode League Ruby And I remember Peter bed he 121 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: was a premier points and at the time Peter gave 122 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: him a really hard time that night, ripped him hard. 123 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: I find it quite interesting that we have a premier 124 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: in our state and most people just so well, so 125 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: I noticed it was actually interested in just call the 126 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: working class sports, you know, like where I grew up, 127 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: boxing was a natural thing for young kids to do. 128 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: It's not so much natural, essays, but where I grew 129 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: up with it was a natural thing. I guess probably 130 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: you wrote Copra rocked down there. And by the way, 131 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: he's a Canary Banks down fan. 132 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: He loves the bull. 133 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 5: It was either how that happened? How hasn't you've. 134 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: A support Henry Banks happened to Robs George. 135 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: I've got the first cousins, wats and lots of them. 136 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: And it was a bit of a tradition that everybody 137 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: had a different team. So I think I got the 138 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: draw was the next the next baby be born would 139 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: go for the bullfox, So that was me. But everybody 140 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 3: goes for different and you but you stayed pretty solid. 141 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: You're still pretty solid. 142 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't hard in the eighties. 143 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: We were good in the eighties and we got the Marcus. 144 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: That's good at the moment. Yesterday, they're pretty good. Yeah, look, 145 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: I there's a funny story about Bob Carr. Actually Phil 146 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: Goold pulled him into stayed boraging camp and he was 147 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: only meant to do a photo of and telegraph with 148 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: Andrew Johns, but it just so happened in the fire 149 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: team was there and Gould said, can you come up 150 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: and give a speech to see Bob gowns. Okay, So 151 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: it gives this incredible speech about how they got to 152 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: do it for the miners who were in Newcastle, or 153 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: the people who have just lost their job, a bluescape 154 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: or a mum and dadd you can't pay the mortgage. 155 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: And they were really starting to lift and he said, 156 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 4: so tomorrow night, I want you to give victory the. 157 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 5: Thrashing of the right. 158 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 159 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: Look, I can't fight. I'm a terrible fighter in the 160 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: few scraps I've been in, but I do. 161 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 6: I just enjoy it. 162 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: I find that in a funny way, once you break 163 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: down the strategies that a fighter will go into the 164 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: ring with, it's sometimes a metaphor for life. You know, 165 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: whether you rush the boxer or you hold back, or 166 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: you go with a strong tactical game, or you're trying 167 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: to get them into the later rounds, or you absorb 168 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: punishment in the beginning. 169 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: So as that you can tire out your opponent in 170 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: a funny way. 171 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: Because of the combating politics, I often see analogies that 172 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: a fighter will go into the ring with that we 173 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: can apply. 174 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: This might sound silly, but to politics. 175 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: Well, I want to thank you, Forether. I putting his 176 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: idea in my mind and you drew everyone along. That's 177 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: how I got record in. I said the premier is 178 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: going to be here and made. I want to say 179 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: that styles win fights. That's what boxers, as boxing coaches say, 180 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: styles wind fights. 181 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: That Chrismin's your style is winning fights within miss last Man, 182 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: so good I do, mate, Thanks very much. 183 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 184 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: Now, thank you make you're a good man if you're 185 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: telling something, you see. 186 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: So Chalky is away and doesn't like to trouble with 187 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: much anyway, but obviously his representative you have maybe yeah, 188 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: and you set the gym up brichly. 189 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, managing t pressing boxer out there to talk the 190 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 7: train and during COVID we're all looped down. 191 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 5: TC rang me one day instead, I haven't need a 192 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: couple of bags for the garage. 193 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 7: M hyeah, So so TC Rangy asking for a boxing 194 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 7: bags Fores's garage That was it. So I thought, I 195 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 7: have a look around, but we've got to do something 196 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 7: a bit better than that. I rang Chalk he was 197 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 7: training and said, you have a look around for it's 198 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 7: in premise. Se if we can get him and shed 199 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 7: for nothing or something you set up, you know, because 200 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 7: TC had from your hangers on training with the indigenous kids. 201 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 5: And about a week later, Chalk gets. 202 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 7: Back to me into these magnificent premises that we've got 203 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,479 Speaker 7: now that someone had offered to do natural astudents. 204 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 6: So at that point I realized it was sort of 205 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 6: there was an opportunity for something a bit bigger. 206 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 7: So I was set to work in city to raise 207 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 7: some funds and sure he got his crew together there 208 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 7: and started working on it on the Shudent preparing it 209 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 7: and took us from their phone calls when we opened. 210 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 7: It took six weeks to getting out an operational community gym. 211 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 7: When I when I started, it's interesting that the issues 212 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 7: issues out there in the bush will lead the kids 213 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 7: that are dis French of us. 214 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 5: Kids are pretty well known. 215 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 7: And as soon as I started speaking to people and saying, look, 216 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 7: this is what we do and we've got an opportunity. 217 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: You know, people I've got raised ten thousand dollars and 218 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 5: I did a couple of weeks. 219 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 7: People they all signing for nothing and silarriting, and so 220 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 7: people were willing to help. 221 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 6: So I got all way together, loaded up a. 222 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: Big trailer, got a bunch of mates, boxing people. It's 223 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 5: actually a bigger all world champion. He came out there 224 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 5: with me. 225 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 7: We drove out and meanwhile Chalking his crew had been 226 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 7: working in more reading the premises ready. 227 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 6: We had a big working be and I left him 228 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 6: with all the year. 229 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 5: He came back to Sydney in a couple of weeks 230 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: later we were. 231 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 6: Ready to open. 232 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: He must have seen some great turn around stories that 233 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: have you seen. 234 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, boxing is a beautiful family for stars, 235 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 7: and that's a very important thing for some of these 236 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 7: indigenous kids, you know, been taken out of their families 237 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 7: and their family lives that have disrupted. 238 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 5: For all sorts of reasons. 239 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 7: And the gym gives him a community, you know, and 240 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 7: we've had we've got young role that the ministers meant. 241 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 7: He came down here for a fight and he was 242 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 7: on bail at the time, so we had to get 243 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 7: permissioned him to travel, you know. But he's turned his 244 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 7: life around, and he's got a couple of other young 245 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 7: kids that the Minister's met out there that have done 246 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 7: the same thing, showed me lives around through boxing, through 247 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 7: having the mentors, you know, and interestingly, other indigenous. 248 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: Elder elder guys. 249 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 7: That have been boxes something they've been in the gym 250 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 7: at being volunteering. So it's not only helping the younger ones, 251 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 7: it's giving some of the older guys that used to 252 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 7: box and giving them a sort of status as an 253 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 7: elder and getting in there and helping the. 254 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 6: Kids as well. 255 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: It's just very interesting because it's funny, you know, the 256 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: older boxes are older boxing coaches and the two of 257 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: them here today Johnny Wilson, Jeffinny. 258 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: But what's interesting about what you just said is, and 259 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: I've seen. 260 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: In rugby league all the time when we have our 261 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: cham with the Rusters here Nippolitis, and we see. 262 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: It's nearly like a privilege for older guys. 263 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: I guess I fit in that category for older guys 264 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: to help you to pay forward something that you know 265 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: they may have received from someone else when they were younger. 266 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: And you just mentioned that the older boxer coaches, the 267 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: older boxes. They're always very willing to get out there 268 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: and pay forward to these younger kids. Maybe something an 269 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: opportunity of the day had given to them. And I 270 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: think probably everyone in this room, but we like everyone 271 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: in this room probably has had somebody at some stage 272 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: just reads out to them and helped them. 273 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: And that's why I don't know if it's an Australian. 274 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 6: Thing or not, but. 275 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'd like you to reflect on this for 276 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: us for a moment that it seems as though there's 277 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: a lot more generosity in our society than we are 278 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: given credit for. I think people are much more generous 279 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: from what you were saying, much more generous, and we 280 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: give ourselves credit for. And sometimes we just got to 281 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: just kill a little bit and just remind ourselves where 282 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: most Australians are pretty good gym beans. 283 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: Is that your experience? 284 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 5: I think when I first reaching out to people, everyone 285 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 5: was you know, what can I do? You know, we 286 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 5: read energy. 287 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 7: Jumped on board and gave us money to get our 288 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 7: car set up. The amusing a bill board the government 289 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 7: provided forces. We've got authority to use that. 290 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 6: And we use that. 291 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 5: Chalky drives all around town pick it up for kids 292 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 5: in that and you yeah, every. 293 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 7: Five ys And the point you made about how the 294 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 7: box is helping, I think it's it really gives them 295 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 7: something to. 296 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: Do and it gives them a purpose. 297 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 5: It gives them a purpose. You know, they're putting back 298 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 5: into it into the kids. You know, before that they're 299 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 5: just working round. Next month they've got a gym they 300 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: can start teaching some of the things that they learned. 301 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: But I was surprised at. 302 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 7: How once I got it set up, and you know 303 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 7: it was a not for profit association as soon as 304 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 7: you mentioned a community gym to try to disadvantage kids. Yeah, 305 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 7: people people were very helpful able. Last got from from 306 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 7: Jeff and World, Jim H. 307 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 5: John Davies. 308 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 7: They've thrown in and wait's equipments. 309 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 310 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 5: I think you're right. 311 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 7: But the community seems to understand there's a problem and 312 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 7: we're happy and well. 313 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: If you just tell Chalky on our behalf, thanks very much. 314 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: We're doing very little web. 315 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: We've given a couple of hours or an hour and 316 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: a half our time this morning, while someone has got 317 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: really really helpful, probably earlier than normal. But and you know, 318 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: we're going to give a bit of money to them, 319 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: but please pass on our you know, our wishes that 320 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: he can continue and you to continue the good work 321 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: you guys are doing up there and more because you know, 322 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: like you can talk about the big issues, you know, 323 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: get the police up there and get this particular I 324 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: kind up there who might be an Indigenous person up there, 325 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: and it's there's a lot of sort of shiny stuff 326 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: around that, but at the end of the day, it's 327 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: the stuff that happens that's not so shiny, the grind, 328 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,239 Speaker 1: the stuff that Chalky. 329 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: Does, that you do and everybody else who's helping you 330 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: out up there. So I appreciate thanks very much, Bob. 331 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: So of course everybody knows that we have. 332 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 5: One of that the. 333 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Greatest boxer in Australian history and boxing Hall of Famer 334 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Finnick, full time FOURD deficient World champion, and we'll. 335 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: Talk better than the second. 336 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: And of course we have w b C A Hall 337 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: of Famer coach Johnny Laws here, who was Jeff's coach. 338 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: And I think the relevance of this and I mentioned 339 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: earlier and we'll just quickly turn to Johnny first is 340 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: when did you first week reprobate how when he was 341 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: really young? We can you just sort of talk about 342 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: how you met him. 343 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: And what was the process of when you meet him. 344 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just remember man father of rugby league and 345 00:15:54,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 8: boxing growing up. The day that Jeff Will into the gym, 346 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 8: he just sat down and didn't say too much. And 347 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 8: I was training another kid that was having to go 348 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 8: to the Olympics, and I just happened to say to 349 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 8: him at the end of the workout, I worked to 350 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 8: try and get some sparring for her. 351 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 6: And with that a voice said, I was sparring when. 352 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 8: I went around a little skinny kid there, and I said, 353 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 8: we don't do it's made here. We have a little 354 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 8: bit of a introduction to the sport and the way 355 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 8: we go. I said, come up tomorrow. Anyhow, the next 356 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 8: day I used to get up there a little bit 357 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 8: earlier and do something myself, and this kid was out 358 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 8: in the front with his bag already waiting about an 359 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 8: hour early, and. 360 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 6: And everything he did. 361 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 8: Assured me that this kid was running h one hundred 362 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 8: and the progress like, it's marvelous. How that kid I 363 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 8: wouldn't let inspiring and went off finally learn inspiring the 364 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 8: kid bult a ship out of him. 365 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: The learning Jeff the Link kid. 366 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 8: Anyhow, I said, mate, you're going to come and start training. 367 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 8: They sparred again about two weeks later, and the ship 368 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 8: was flying, but it wasn't hit. It was the other kids, 369 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 8: and just so so quick the progress. But I never 370 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 8: had a record, second to none, robbed of an Olympic 371 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 8: gold medal, turned prone. And there's another story that we 372 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 8: had an offer to fight for the world title after 373 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 8: six flights and nowhere could not ever be achieved. And 374 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 8: I said them all in that way and kept doing 375 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 8: nothing about them. Jeffers were really wild about it, like 376 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 8: he wanted to fight there and then, but anyhow, he 377 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 8: finished up. We decided that we go ahead with it. 378 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 8: And I think the day he for the fight, ten 379 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 8: experts predicted assault. Nine of them said that we're in 380 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 8: for a belting, and one blade called Jimmy for others, 381 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 8: So I think Chef's up for it. And on the 382 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 8: Friday night, Jimmy car others showed that he not only 383 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 8: was a good in the ring himself, he was good 384 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 8: out and jeff won by a knockout, and his progress. 385 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 6: From then on his I think it's we thought anyone 386 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 6: that they put up for us. 387 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 8: We didn't need anyone that couldn't find more only done 388 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 8: a really good job bringing out good fire in this room. 389 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 8: And Jeff took a better job by turning a day. 390 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: Jeff, can you can you just tell us about the story? 391 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: Can you give us your recollection now? Because what were 392 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: you doing before the day or the weeks months before you. 393 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: Turn up to Johnny's at the gym. I think you 394 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: would have even been in Johnny's gym before, even. 395 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 5: Just before then. 396 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 9: I'm just gonna say, quite obvious, Johnny hasn't been punched 397 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 9: in the headlockers room. 398 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: There's a lot of things, but then I'll never forget 399 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: the first move went up. I can go up in 400 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: the box. 401 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 9: I'm went up there with a group of friends because 402 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 9: we wanted to find somebody who wanted to. 403 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: Beat up. 404 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 5: And the last room I looked at him was the 405 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 5: last room had boxing on it. 406 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 9: We looked at there that people were there that we 407 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 9: were looking for, and I sat down with I seeing 408 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 9: one of my schoolmates who was Mark Grieb, who was 409 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 9: Australian cham and then I heard this old guy say, 410 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 9: am bel. 411 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 5: He was not young, not older, but I heard this 412 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: guy he say he'd. 413 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 9: Been waiting somebody's sparring, so I volunteered and after that 414 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 9: Thursday that I sparred and I got beat up. 415 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 5: Johnny walks over and says, joh Man, that was really good. 416 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 9: You're going to come back to them or over year pretend, 417 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 9: And in my head I couldn't say no because some 418 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 9: of my friends are there, and I think, not a 419 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 9: chance in the world am I going back to my 420 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 9: I get bashed again. Anyway, For some reason, I went 421 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 9: back and this man the pc YS again. I'm plus 422 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 9: some boys. 423 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 10: Club and changed my life on here today and testing 424 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 10: and need to if you'd prepared to work hard and 425 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 10: listen to and that's one thing I didn't do when 426 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 10: I was young and didn't listen to many people. 427 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 5: But this man made me believe everything, and then. 428 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 9: Here here I am today, and I said, I've made 429 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 9: mistakes in my life, but hopefully had the mistakes I 430 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 9: made will teach people to be better of them. 431 00:20:59,200 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 432 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 5: I think Johnny told me that as well. So I'm 433 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: just we're talking about the people in more reen stuff 434 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 5: and the people used to say about me. I came 435 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: up from this family who had nothing, which we did. 436 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 5: But then I traveled the wall and go to Bangkok. 437 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 6: Can I think of the. 438 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 9: People in more Reen, I think that when I really 439 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 9: put in perspective, I think I wasn't really need computing 440 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 9: to those four people. And that's why I wanted to 441 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 9: be here helping you guys today and to say thank 442 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 9: you the Pool. 443 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 5: Were having us here and an honor being with the 444 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 5: Premier and obviously M. This meant he implaudus is you know, 445 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 5: should be with Paramount and other roosters. 446 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 9: But like I said, for me, it's just not to 447 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 9: be here, especially we're sitting beside Mark, it's one of 448 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 9: my great great friends, and. 449 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 6: With Johnny M. 450 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 9: And then to know that we're doing something that we're 451 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 9: capable of doing that's helping them society where it needs 452 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 9: to be helping. That's what I really want my legacy 453 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 9: to beout my legacy being about me being a four 454 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 9: time World champail. I want my legacy, which is growing 455 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 9: at the moment, about helping people and then yeah, making 456 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 9: Australia a bit of place, because yeah, without Australia, without 457 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 9: the people who helped me, like I said, I just 458 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 9: wouldn't be here. 459 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 5: Tail one hundred and sent beginner in job. 460 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because you know, I think the relevance 461 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: of this too, Jeff is maybe you just give us 462 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a description of what you were like. 463 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: How old were you when you first went to the gym, 464 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: and what were you like when what was going on 465 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: in your life. 466 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 5: I was seventeen and a half when I went into 467 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 5: the gym. 468 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: I play. 469 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 9: It's John played Matthew Shield when I was fourteen, and 470 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 9: gym wall when I was fifteen and sixteen, Jersey for 471 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 9: Eve when I was seventh and evening and I was 472 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 9: forty seven kilos. 473 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 5: So I made every real treat and well everyone does 474 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: me around the league player and. 475 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 9: Yeah, I just walked in and to the piece and 476 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 9: white sild I said, we didn't want them walking. We 477 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 9: kind of stormed in a few of us to look 478 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 9: for some people we wanted to beat up. And now 479 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 9: my life changed. I mean the score him on my right, 480 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 9: and yeah. 481 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: What do you think? 482 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: What do you think a boxing? 483 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: What? What is it special about sun boxing? Training and 484 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: story the same? But it's like Johnny from Shorty who 485 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: have a member the same sort of thing. What is 486 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: it about those individuals that can turn a young person's 487 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: life around. 488 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 9: I honestly say, you Johnny's the Wayne Bennett from football 489 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 9: to boxing, and the first and foremost thing is your 490 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 9: family and you. 491 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: Of course he wants to be a great. 492 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 9: Fighter, but he knows that if if he crossed the 493 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 9: eyes and te's and they're puts it the air and make. 494 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 5: Sure your life's better around I think everything flows. 495 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 9: And like I said, down when I got stable and 496 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 9: I didn't go out fighting and stuff and I am 497 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 9: concentrated on the goal that Johnny sent me, like I said, 498 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 9: in my life was totally different. And I'm sure today 499 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 9: as we sit here and we look at all these 500 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 9: suicides and stuff that are happening, when I can sit down, 501 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 9: once they're. 502 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: Done, we all go home, what could I have done 503 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 5: or could have done well? 504 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 9: I honestly believe we should be thinking that before when 505 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 9: anything happens, and whether you think that will happen, whether 506 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 9: it's not going to happen. We just need to be 507 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 9: as parents. You need to spend time with your kids. 508 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 9: I go to restaurants, so I go through every every day. 509 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 9: I eat out every single night, and I send these 510 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 9: little kids just on their right pads and their mum's 511 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 9: going to have a great time. 512 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 5: Nine o'clock ten o'clock, and. 513 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, how do they know what their kids 514 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 9: are like? How do you know if they need help? 515 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 9: If you don't spend time with me, you don't talk 516 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 9: to me. And honestly, I honestly believe it's one thing 517 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 9: that when I was growing up. Although I'm going to 518 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 9: travel a little girls and I am every day after school, 519 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 9: my first movements were to take off my school clothes 520 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 9: and go to the park and play sports. 521 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 5: We've lost that. We've lost that culture in Australia at 522 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: the moment. 523 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 9: I think it's really really sad because, yeah, I mean, 524 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 9: social media honestly spoiled the world. I think that we 525 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 9: need to as people, yeah, do what we're doing now 526 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 9: for the people who will really do as much as 527 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 9: we can over the locks help. So I'm at the 528 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 9: moment getting a group of people to help. We do 529 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 9: the same as you guys doing, but I want to 530 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 9: do it on the whole world soon. And I just 531 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 9: hope that, like I said, from all the experiences I've 532 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 9: been through and the mentors. 533 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 5: That I've had, that I'm going to be able to 534 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 5: give something back. 535 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: So Johnny, obviously he's or something, specially the kid and 536 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: I often ask you John about this, so. 537 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: Maybe you just explained because like the people know jefflet yourself. 538 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: Obviously he's probably one of the. 539 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: Most driven. Certainly was probably the fittest fighter probably have 540 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: had to put put cups on his hands like in 541 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: the world. Like his fitness, his drive, his ability to 542 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: run like an amazing speed and just keep doing repeats it. 543 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: What is it about him that made him so good 544 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: in the ring? 545 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 9: Just to probably give it to him, I'll just say this, 546 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 9: and I say this without any hesitation every time. 547 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 5: And I thought, of course I wanted to fight and. 548 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 9: Do Australian great But when that Bill regular send his 549 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 9: face and wanted to come cold me was the greatest thing. 550 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 6: We ever had. 551 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 8: Yeah, looking was a big thing for me. That suddenly 552 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 8: I was on the threshold with Jeff. And I was very, 553 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 8: very fortunate in nineteen seventy three to meet a guy 554 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 8: called Jack Gibson, who I know that Nick Politis annis 555 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 8: the same way. 556 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 6: But he didn't say too much Jack, but he said 557 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 6: a lot. And I just remember that. 558 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 8: One thing he said was that, yeah, you only take 559 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 8: out what you put in, and that's why this young 560 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 8: fella here took out so much right boxes, just to 561 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 8: just run out of morning, just a kid the engine over. 562 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 8: That was what we wanted to do with Jeff. But 563 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 8: unfortunately there'd be a blake half a mile in front 564 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 8: of him and he had to beat him. 565 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 6: He had to go past that play. That was the 566 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 6: enner of Jeff. Whatever it took, he was hell ben 567 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 6: on where he went to. He knew he was going 568 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 6: to do that. 569 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 8: He knew it was inside. He knew no one could 570 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 8: beat him. He knew he could beat everybody else. And 571 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 8: he was driven by himself. And it's just I know, 572 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 8: I'll never ever say another virtually another athlete like him. 573 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 8: Particularly in bossing Jeff, he put aside a lot of things. 574 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 8: He knew that where he wanted to get to he 575 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 8: had to change ways and everything. But the one thing 576 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 8: he never did is that any our gymnage, and when 577 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 8: we had a lot of kids, a lot of them, 578 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 8: a lot of indigenous kids, a lot of where Yugoslavia 579 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 8: had a whole lot there that Jeff was sponsored by. 580 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 6: The various brands of Maribok and so forth. 581 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 8: Every kid in that gym never wanted for any shirts, shorts, boots. 582 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 8: He gave them all whatever they wanted. And the other 583 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 8: thing that I remember about him was when I first 584 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 8: started training him, he said he was training a rugby 585 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 8: league team in the New Down junior competition and I 586 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 8: went down watched the grand final and they would catch 587 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 8: better than our first grade side advice. He done a 588 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 8: remark couple job. He loved rugby league and I know 589 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 8: that he even though he was small, his heart getting 590 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 8: through with it. But he's ability day how the Josian 591 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 8: room and get these kids out there and they won 592 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 8: the competition and he had to put that on hold 593 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 8: for his own thing. 594 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: But he. 595 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 8: Very very giving person and there's he just always there 596 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 8: was something every week that made me love him, even 597 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 8: them all never self sent and I never forgot the 598 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 8: kids that he knew how hard it was to ask him. 599 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 8: He town, so no one better to pull him up 600 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 8: and give him happen what you have did? 601 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: What do you What do you guys think about the 602 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: future boxing in Australia now? 603 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: So you know we're premier to talk about and you're saying, 604 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: you know he loves boxing and we got some great 605 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: fighters out there. 606 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: At the moment, I was just thinking of Dripti the 607 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: other day A. 608 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: Wonderful CRUs Waite fighter and we're talking, we're talking about 609 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: music then, and I'm thinking of myself, Will Joe one 610 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: day of a you would you go back down a 611 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: cruiser and fight Someway Joy or will join you up? 612 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: But what do you think about the bossing scene now 613 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: in Australia? How do you think we're going understand? 614 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, well. 615 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 8: I'm trying to reach out a little bit to you, uh, 616 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 8: real aggressively. But I'm worried about it. And yeah, I 617 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 8: think that I think we need a body that can 618 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 8: govern our sport. I don't think there's enough expertise with 619 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 8: the mob that are doing it. And the one thing 620 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 8: about I think that the main thing that you get 621 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 8: when you venture into boxing, it's discipline, and I don't 622 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 8: think they can. That's worry my opinion. 623 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 6: Worry. 624 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 9: I just say this really quickly, and I said the 625 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 9: mark and of being in trouble for and being pretty auspoken. 626 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 5: But listen, if the sports grand boy. 627 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 9: Dodger should be wearing red noses, the clowns and the 628 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 9: sport will will never get better. I mean, if Paul 629 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 9: couldn't put on a beautiful breakfast that he's putting on here. 630 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 9: He wouldn't be if the guy's filming this with the 631 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 9: camera that they couldn't do that, it wouldn't be here. 632 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 9: We have referees and judgment have never formed their life 633 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 9: and never formed their life, and they rule people's lives. 634 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 5: They having three people watch a fight and one have 635 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 5: them buy six points to one won't have to buy 636 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 5: six points the other and one they have to draw. 637 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 5: It's a joke. 638 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 6: And I mean until we. 639 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 9: Can make things properly, until they're their account of what 640 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 9: they do out of the fight, I mean, nothing happens 641 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 9: next week they're fighting, they're refereeing, or again, I mean 642 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 9: until they can sit down and somebody said, show me 643 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 9: what that guy won by six points and they can, 644 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 9: you know, do that. 645 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 5: The sport's never going to be going anymore. That's why 646 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 5: you have so he's taken over. 647 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 9: And then because they have men and have responsible people 648 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 9: who run their sport. And I've said in the sport 649 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 9: of boxing, and man, I don't even want to tell 650 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 9: stories as so yeah, I mean I will tell one story. 651 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 9: I don't know, I can't tell anyone. But anyway, like 652 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 9: I said, now, I just don't won't let. 653 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: The Olympics's go back to them. 654 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 5: So what happened to mean the Olympic Games? 655 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 9: I mean, and here is I'm win to fight why 656 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 9: the judge the jury overturned Arden Tunsell doesn't even appeal 657 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 9: to say how. And it was the first time the 658 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 9: jury had ever been there, and the jury were just 659 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 9: there was a boys stop because they've got some more 660 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 9: clowns to go and ship ringside because they know they're. 661 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 5: All it's all a boys club. And yeah, I mean 662 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 5: Australia didn't even protest that I that I lost. But 663 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 5: the great thing is, and I'll never forget it when 664 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 5: I got on the plane. 665 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 9: Because I came home el list And do you know 666 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 9: the greatest thing when you go to the Olympics is, 667 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 9: of course thirst. 668 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 5: Thing is you march for your country. I couldn't march 669 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 5: because it was the day that I The. 670 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 9: March was when I had to fight that night and 671 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 9: it was very, very hot in the LA So I 672 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 9: went in and win the finals much. I would have 673 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 9: loved the march till my friends in Australia to see me. 674 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 9: And then after that it's about competing. So I competed 675 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 9: and I've done the best I could and like I said, 676 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 9: I won. My decision was overturned. And then the next 677 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 9: greatest thing is that with your own Olympics, the after 678 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 9: parties like the part of your life, everybody from the 679 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 9: whole world meet up and enjoy themselves. I didn't go 680 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 9: to that either, because once I lost the five and 681 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 9: once they of the driven my decision, I read joinings 682 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 9: and I'm coming straight home. And well, one thing that 683 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 9: I told the Olympic organization back then, I said, if 684 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 9: you can guarantee that Johnny's going to be in my 685 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 9: corner at the next Olympics, I will stay amateur for 686 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 9: another four years. 687 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 5: They said no, So I turned professional and then one 688 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 5: hundred ninety six days I was a world champ because. 689 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 4: This beautiful empy side. 690 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: And you thought the person who wanted to go a medal, 691 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: I thought them. 692 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 9: In my second defense at my will time, I thought 693 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 9: to gold Witherston. I knocked him out in the fourteenth round, 694 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 9: but had some real bad circumstance. We were in a 695 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 9: health farm four weeks because I broke my hand and 696 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 9: I fought with the broken hand. 697 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: But we had some good stories. And by the way, 698 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: they were fifteen rounders. 699 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: We're talking fifteen round fights that that's pretty rare, and 700 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: the fourteenth round. 701 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: And Johnny, you might be able to reflect on this. 702 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: Jeff used to suffer from broken hands or breaks, but 703 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: as so it didn't really stop him. 704 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 6: As I said before, nothing is going to stop me. 705 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 6: But after. 706 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 8: He made as I say, we had to go down 707 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 8: and we had three fights to get to the Olympics. 708 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 8: And I can tell you that after the first fight 709 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 8: he did to sleep. We had two buckets, four of 710 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 8: the ice and he had we had his hands shaking 711 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 8: in the two buckets. That being a good black that 712 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 8: I am, I went to sleep for him so he 713 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 8: didn't have to worry about that. The National eye we're 714 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 8: in the buckets again and he's with his hands in 715 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 8: the ice buckets. And then they had the final and 716 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 8: he won that and he was back in the atmosph 717 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 8: in his hand at the days one second tour about 718 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 8: him being a nice guy. And then I just told 719 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 8: them and they were fun. Well, every day, bring me 720 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 8: out these leaves. 721 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 9: And stuff, because I couldn't even I had to lose 722 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 9: weight on had to lose like thirteen pounds in the 723 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 9: last anywaybody tells us and Johnny and all the guys 724 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 9: I used to go and look from every night. 725 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 5: Most of the nights I see them, and then on 726 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 5: every second or third or nobody's around. 727 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 9: And then I'd wake up in the water to go 728 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 9: for my run because I could still run, of course, 729 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 9: and ride a boy to try to lose away or 730 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 9: see all these pizza boxes and McDonald's things out the 731 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 9: front they go and sleeping out eating McDonald's and pizza. 732 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 11: While I was dying in that room on my own, 733 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 11: and and and and and then these hands are John 734 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 11: sorry and just finch off the hands like because how 735 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 11: it goes up and played in his whole career. 736 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 8: Look, yeah, I'm going to say at that stage, uh, 737 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 8: this has gotta stop his progress. You know, yead operations 738 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 8: on them, and then we had them. I've done it 739 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 8: to put. 740 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 6: What they were. 741 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 9: I had pins putting them to so that's how I 742 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 9: supposed to stay for the rest of my life. But 743 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 9: for some reason the operation has never worked, and the 744 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 9: pins were taken out, and my fingers would come straight 745 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 9: back to where they are where we're pretty prelude theirselves 746 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 9: time on punch wil breaking back. 747 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 5: In my hands. 748 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just said the premier I'm really worried about 749 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 8: some of the matchups that goes on. And another thing, 750 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 8: I'll go to rugby league blankets sent off the same 751 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 8: thing four weeks for him four weeks. 752 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 6: It's done professionally. 753 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 8: We're going a young lady sitting down there who played 754 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 8: in a premiership winning side for Melbourne. Curtis like amazing 755 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 8: boys in their life when they're young, they do something 756 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 8: stupid or whatever that these kid's got life. I'm rugby 757 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 8: leaguing and boxing. He's undefeated in boxing and. 758 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 6: What why is this? 759 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 8: How can these guys have came do much for the 760 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 8: spider boxing? Come out and give someone alive? What's their 761 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 8: credentials to do that? 762 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 5: Everybody deserves a second chance. I don't care who you are, 763 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 5: what you are. 764 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 9: If nobody's prepared to give you a second chance, then 765 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 9: there's something terribly wrong with him. And I've said that 766 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 9: I've made stupid mistakes, but I've been blessed. 767 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 5: Whether I've had a second chance, start to go, I'll 768 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 5: prove that I can. I can do things again. 769 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 9: You can change, We can all change, and I think 770 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 9: that's why we're all. Headle wanted to change a community 771 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 9: to make him better, and. 772 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 5: That yeah, I look around the table. 773 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 9: One of my great friends, John Rocker, who has helped 774 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 9: me and supported me with all my boxes. 775 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 5: And I couldn't even tell you for how many years 776 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 5: it's it's been so long. I'm blessed have all these people. 777 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 9: And I mean, like I said, it would be good 778 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 9: to be able to sit down one day and go 779 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 9: through a few of these people who have made mistakes 780 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 9: and give them a chance. And like I said, and 781 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 9: this kid was most probably the most talent going balloting 782 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 9: sense he earned he played you know, first weight for 783 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 9: Melbourne Storm and they're best, and like I said, he 784 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 9: made a mistake. And like I said, man, I just 785 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 9: both with the Premier and the police commissioner and stuff 786 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 9: a few weeks ago. And when I walked out of there, 787 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 9: it made me so proud of all these guys taking 788 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 9: photos of up with me because I had I had 789 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 9: a second chance. I told him the police, that's you 790 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 9: gave them a chance to yeah, to speak in front 791 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 9: of the commissioner all those people, and it made me 792 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 9: really really brown. But yeah, if somebody makes a mistake, 793 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 9: I mean, there's a time where he should be able 794 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 9: to go back and said, this guy's been punished enough, 795 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 9: giving the opportunity to show that he's yeah that yeah, 796 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 9: we all can change. We're all yeah, yeah, we all 797 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 9: make mistakes. And then, like I said, I love Johnny 798 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 9: for saying that because one of my young boss two 799 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 9: years ago now threw a plastic bottle of water with 800 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 9: somebody and there he got three. 801 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 5: Years for throwing a plastic bottle of watered somebody. 802 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's just a joke, and that's never 803 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 9: happened to the sport of boxing, reports and moves liberally 804 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 9: his voice, So sometimes I think it was because he's 805 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 9: led them my hope. 806 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 5: But like I said, there's been people in the sport 807 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 5: of boxing, like myself who have. 808 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 9: Done much worse than that. Nothing's ever happened. So I mean, 809 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 9: like I said, until until we have good people around 810 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 9: that sport, we have people who being involved in the sport, 811 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 9: I never think boxing is going. 812 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 6: To get better or stronger. 813 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentlemen, I think as ladies said, and gentlemen, gentlemen, 814 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your honesty. Both him and I think 815 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: that in a small gathering, and it's this sort of 816 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: chat house rules in this group. 817 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: In this group, I think that your honesty is highly 818 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: highly valued from. 819 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: All of us in relations to you know, how you've 820 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: changed your life, how Johnny something production of something like 821 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: Johnny has changed your life, and probably really how hopefully 822 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: Joky and Bobby and all that their entourage can help 823 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: change lives and more and do something really positive. And 824 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: really I think we're talking about a really small factor. 825 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: We're not really sort of doing something like you know, 826 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: you know the treasurer from New South Wales Bookie is 827 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: not sort of building into his budget and money to 828 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: put it more. And this is something small, but it's 829 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 1: also but I think it's really beat. It's also really 830 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: large and it sort of comes out of generosity and 831 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: he comes out of people not making judgments and other people. 832 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 5: I hope you can starting, Maureen, and we can do 833 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 5: it in many other places. There's a lot of places 834 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 5: that maybe all much. 835 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: As suppose one hundred percent. Well, thanks very much, guys, 836 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate. 837 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 9: It just for saying, begg you give me the opportunity 838 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 9: to be with the premier and some great people who 839 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 9: I know, and I'm sure Johnny feels the same. 840 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 5: Thank you so so much.