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Speaker 1: Appoge production. Self validation a very very important topic to

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Speaker 1: talk about. What is that to you, Kiara?

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Speaker 2: It is validating everything I feel and treating myself as

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Speaker 2: I would others.

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Speaker 1: It's just so important to validate yourself and it's so

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Speaker 1: beautiful when the people around you can validate you. But

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Speaker 1: it has to come from within, otherwise you just carry

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Speaker 1: around like a big bag of guilt and shame. And

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Speaker 1: that it is the lowest vibrational frequency that you can

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Speaker 1: be on. And I've felt that it's awful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And even like when you were talking to me

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Speaker 2: yesterday and you're like, I've just cried so much this week,

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Speaker 2: and I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, how good.

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Speaker 2: But like you're moving, You're moving all that emotion. Because

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Speaker 2: if you don't let it out and you don't feel

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Speaker 2: the things you want to feel, it's got to come

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Speaker 2: back to bite your us, whether you end up getting

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Speaker 2: sick or you have a day where you fucking have

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Speaker 2: a panic attack. Like you're better off as you're feeling

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Speaker 2: these things to just sit in it, feel it important,

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Speaker 2: give yourself grace, release it, give yourself time. That's why

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Speaker 2: I always say the support you have around you're so

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Speaker 2: important because they remind you just validate yourself and it's

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Speaker 2: so healing when you have people around you.

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Speaker 1: To validate it. Yeah, but we have to get better

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Speaker 1: at doing it for ourselves and that is something I'm

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Speaker 1: And I think so many people listening will relate to that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably one of the harshest people that I

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Speaker 2: am to anyone is like on myself, Yes, because you think,

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Speaker 2: like I can handle this, I should be able to

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Speaker 2: handle that, you know, I'm like even at work, you're

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Speaker 2: Like you feel like you always need to kind of

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Speaker 2: have your shit together, Yes, but no one has their

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Speaker 2: shit together all the time.

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Speaker 1: All the time. So true.

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Speaker 2: We all just need to not be so hard on

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Speaker 2: ourselves and just hold more space for whatever it is

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Speaker 2: that we are feeling and whatever season we are in

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Speaker 2: and not hold shame and guilt around it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: And if we are in a season where we are

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Speaker 2: it's not going to last forever. Yes, not going to

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Speaker 2: be here, you know, we might still be here in

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Speaker 2: a few months. Time, but hopefully we can move through it.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's really important for us as parents

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Speaker 1: as well to practice this because the more that we

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Speaker 1: watch that. Yeah, Like I don't want my kids to

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Speaker 1: ever feel guilty or shameful or frustrated at themselves that

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Speaker 1: they're still upset about something. Yeah, Like you don't have

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Speaker 1: Like healing is not linear, Like you don't know how

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Speaker 1: long it's going to take for you to feel better

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Speaker 1: that for ourselves, it shows those other people around us

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes too, like just validating that if we

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Speaker 2: support and some help to help guide you to get through.

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Speaker 2: And if you are wanting to get obviously things are

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Speaker 2: last like months and months. Maybe that's where it's like going, Okay,

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Speaker 2: why am I feeling like this? And sometimes it's hard

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Speaker 1: And that's frustrating in itself, so frustrating, and that's where

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Speaker 1: Like how lucky you get to do this? And I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to be positive, and it's nice to

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Speaker 1: It's toxic positive. That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. But also we

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Speaker 1: Grateful and how are you twenty four seven? Like all

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Speaker 2: So something as well. That's like popped up for me

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Speaker 2: and I've had to ask myself. I'm like, no, you

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Speaker 2: And it was kind of like going, I'm getting frustrated

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Speaker 1: It's so wide after dance, not just the physical dance class,

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Speaker 2: But it's like you get frustrated letting yourself down almost.

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Speaker 1: It's that high expectation that we have on ourselves. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: energy that you're consuming and taking on being online. It's

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Speaker 1: an energy exchange when you're communicating with a bunch of strangers,

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh gosh, you raise your expectation, probably subconsciously

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Speaker 1: When you're distracting and numbing out and listen and reading

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Speaker 1: clarity on what's feeling good for you. So true, and

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Speaker 2: That's so true. Like if things are coming up and

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Speaker 1: Stop, stop slow, Yeah, fill your cut back up and

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Speaker 1: have awareness around it all. And then you've got clarage

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Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, what's my next move. If you

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Speaker 1: don't do that, you're just going to be fucking floating

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Speaker 2: I saw this post on Instagram and I wanted to

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Speaker 2: read it out. So it's from the page The Brain

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Speaker 2: Coach so it says self validation. Sounds like I was

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Speaker 2: right to stand up for myself. I did the best

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Speaker 2: am proud of me for challenging my fears slashed outs.

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Speaker 2: Today has been a difficult day for me. I can

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Speaker 2: do hard things. It's okay to say no to something

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Speaker 2: I really didn't want to do. I feel overworked and

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Speaker 2: need to prioritize rest. I tried my best and that

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Speaker 2: is enough. I'm feeling upset right now. I feel misunderstood.

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Speaker 2: That was a difficult conversation, but it was needed. Not

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Speaker 2: everyone will like me, and that's okay. Today was tough.

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Speaker 2: What do I need to do to feel better? And

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Speaker 2: that last one today was tough? What do I need

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Speaker 2: like not feeling aligned to not feeling aligned, not feel aligned?

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Speaker 1: That I feel misunderstood is really validating in a conversation,

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Speaker 1: because if you need to have a hard conversation or

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Speaker 1: this conflict or disagreements whatever, how many times in your

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Speaker 1: no worries.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no worries.

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Speaker 1: Yep, no worries. Like just go with what they say

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Speaker 1: But to actually look some of the eye and say, I,

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Speaker 1: actually I feel really misunderstood by you. That's so validating.

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Speaker 1: You're validating that I do not feel good in this moment,

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Speaker 1: and let's chat about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Such a good example, isn't it. Yeah, even just today

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to sit there, but just

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Speaker 2: Another thing, too, is like acknowledging our accomplishments. I feel

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Speaker 1: Celebrating the winds.

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Speaker 2: Celebrating the winds like acknowledging yourself, just taking moment to

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Speaker 1: So so good. How much to we celebrate our best

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Speaker 2: The difference too, is like I feel like for my

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Speaker 2: I feel so that we need to just sometimes just

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Speaker 2: amazing job. Stay it's been hard, Like, yeah, feel those

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Speaker 2: same feelings you feel for everyone else.

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Speaker 1: Yes, myself. I've read something the other day and it

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Speaker 1: I find that online, like I find it really inspiring

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Speaker 1: It's like celebrating that's got a job promotion, they've bought

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Speaker 1: when I see other people doing I'm like, fuck, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting, Hey how we celebrate other people but not ourselves.

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Speaker 1: And I'm super aware of it now, but yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: It is interesting society. It's just the way our brains

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Speaker 2: have been molded to conditions. But it's like just that

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Speaker 2: old question why, Like why shouldn't I be celebrating myself?

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Speaker 1: And the more that we are sure of who we

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Speaker 1: are and our attentions and all of that, Like when

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Speaker 2: Yeah,