WEBVTT - ORIGIN FALLOUT! Dean & Alex clash over Daley's Blues selections. "He'll get respect with a series win!" 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:10.200 Well hello and welcome to the Code NRL Monday Show. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:14.080 I'm joined by Fatima Cadou and of course Alex from 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:17.400 NRL Soapbox. Welcome troops, thank you. What do we make 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:19.960 of yesterday? What an amazing performance up there by the 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.760 Eastern George ill at Warret Dragons toppling Brisbane after two 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.600 hundred and twenty five days for goodness, say, can you 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.400 believe that? An amazing victory? Fatima? 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:32.159 What did you make of it? No one gave him 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:33.920 a chance. In fact, I think everyone. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.839 Thought that they would get beaten by forty or fifty 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.120 and Dean Young's Red VEV come out and shocked Ruglar league. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:45.440 They have. I think they completely ambushed the Broncos. Oh, 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.960 it wasn't a good performance by the Broncos at all. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.640 You know, headlines this morning that it was rock bottom 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.840 for them. Maybe this is the loss that they need 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.680 to have. But yeah, the Broncos I think showed very 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:01.760 little respect to the Dragons in a way, just out enthused, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.240 you know, zero respect for the ball, especially in that 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.320 first half, and the Dragons made them pay. I think 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.360 what fifteen straight losses, eleven straight losses this year? If 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.360 you look at their draw, you think, when is their 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.440 next win coming? But Dean Young pulled it off and 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.840 against the reigning premieres Alex. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.240 I think most that watched yesterday thought the Broncos looked 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:23.920 old and slow. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.120 Yeah, not particularly in that order either. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.319 Yeah yeah, and like it was more like they decided, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.600 finally we're going to try and scoring points, like when 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.199 we get down into the twenty, because they were alway 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.280 getting down. They were always getting field position, but they 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.800 weren't creating opportunities. They threw in so many offloads it 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.240 looked actually exciting halves are running around. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:41.520 Yeah. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.840 Yeah, you know when that happened, Sophie, which is to 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.640 me a worrying sign is when Madge went from the 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.240 coach's boss down to the sideline. Yeah, that's when all 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.400 of a sudden things clicked, all of a sudden. Rees 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.040 Walsh was invested involved. Like you said, they were, you know, 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.240 looked like the Broncos of old. But if I'm Madge, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.800 I'm thinking, well, what did the players think? Did they 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.800 not know I was there for the first sixty minutes 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.760 or whatever it is? You know that they needed to 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.320 see the coach on the sideline before he was able 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.680 to elicit a response from them against the team coming last. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.799 So yeah, they did finish fast, but yeah, I think 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.200 that's because they looked to the sideline and there was 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.000 Madge sort of stalking the sideline. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:20.920 Well that's the. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.359 Thing, right, it didn't look like a Michael maguire coach 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.440 team for most of that game. I think Madge did 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.120 Madge even come out and say we didn't respect the 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.200 opposition and they paid the price for that, like they 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.400 should have respected the Dragons because the Dragons came to play. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.280 I think there's a level of complacency there, There's no 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.280 doubt about that, the way they came out and by 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.520 the time they pulled their fingers out it was far 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.280 too late, which was a diabolical loss for the Broncos. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.520 I want to ask you, though, alex Reyese Walsh, his 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.400 performance gain yesterday was average at best. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:51.600 Where's he at? 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.480 He certainly hasn't attained the levels he got to last 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.680 year when he virtually drove Brisbane single handley through those 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.280 finals and to the premiership. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.760 Yeah, he did run, he did time, He's run late 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.960 last year. My suspicion this is uninformed though, but my 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.520 suspicion is that he's still carrying a little bit of 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.960 that injury or that tentatives from what's happened. Takes him 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.519 a while to find his flow, and he does work 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.959 better when his teammates are running straight, they're getting meters, 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:16.920 and it just hasn't been working for them. I reckon, 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.040 he'll turn it up. That's Reese Walsch. She's a superstar, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.919 but he's looking pretty poor right now. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.320 Fatima, the Broncos, they're on the same spot now as 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.040 they were last year. We know what happened last year. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.040 We saw it unfold before her very eyes. I just 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.720 can't see it happening again. Every season is different. 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:32.520 Just because it. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.520 Happened last year, I think it would be wrong to 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.000 fall into that lalla of thinking it can happen again. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:39.880 I think they're gone. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.080 Yeah. Well, I think they were guilty of being complacent 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:44.840 last year, even before they went on their run, and 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.920 they're guilty of it again, probably thinking in the back 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.000 of their minds, Okay, we were in the same spot 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.600 last year, but look at us. We went on to 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.840 become premier. So that's another thing that Michael maguire has 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.000 to address. But you know, I still think they absolutely 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.160 have the star power to do it. You know, pain 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:03.080 Haas is bad, you know people. He looked sometimes a 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.160 little bit tentative, but still managed to knock out two 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:11.000 hundred plus meters Reese Walsh. I agree Sopie will get 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:12.960 to his best as the season goes on. They still 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:17.039 have a couple of guys injured, like Dean Maroner Jordan 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.880 Ricky I think is now out with an extended period 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.919 with a full injury. But I still think they have 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.479 enough star power to if they scrape through, especially the 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.240 top four, that they're going to be their late September. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:29.560 That's it. 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.000 They've got to reach top four though, so if they 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.200 want to defend their premiership, it's not scraping into finals. 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.200 They've got to find form quick because they've got to 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:36.920 make top four to really make a title defense. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.159 Let's flip onto a positive. The Dragons we touched on 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.640 at the top of the show. An extraordinary win. I 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.080 can't remember the last five ten years that we've seen 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.600 it upset quite like that. What did you make of it? 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:51.320 How do they win? 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.400 Good on them? Well, it was fantastic. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.040 Yeah, it's great for the game, and the Dragons actually 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.839 always put themselves in positions in games two score tries 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.240 and then did nothing with the ball in that final twenty. 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:03.360 But you just watched that game. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:04.640 I think there was at one point they had more 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.240 than double even triple the offloads of the Broncos. So 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.120 they were starting to play a bit more chaotic and 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.240 manic footy. And in this era of the rules that 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.960 we have, that's what's kind of working. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:14.280 You do. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.960 You need structure, you need strategy, but you also just 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.000 need to do some chaotic stuff and they did that 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.480 very well, Like even just Cayle Flanagan, Like there's one 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.640 play where he's running left, there's nothing there and he's 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:24.400 running back over. 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.080 He's not done that this season. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.560 So that kind of style of it's more this chaotic, 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.320 spontaneous footy, that's what worked for the Dragons. That's been 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.640 the missing ingredient for them. So they could actually get 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.960 a few more wins if they adopt that playing style again. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.919 I thought it was interesting in watching Dean Young in 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:41.719 the coaching box. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.840 He wasn't excited. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.960 Sure inside he was incredibly relief, but there was no 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.400 banging on the glass, there was no hugging. It was 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.279 just very controlled, very measured. For Black that just bowled 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:52.880 over Brisbane. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:54.839 Yeah, I think that sometimes a bit of self respect 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.240 of like, well we should win games rather than like 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.359 celebrating like you've won a Grand Final. Well it's been 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.599 one win this I reckon he's setting a new standard 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.560 of like, no, this is the standard we want to play. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.560 He did celebrate like they had won a finals. The players, 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.559 you know, especially the young players. There was this shot 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.800 of one of the Couchmen brothers, I don't know which 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.480 one and like a Pacificatongua and I think Kamie Stewart 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.640 and they're just embracing and the smile on their faces. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.600 I felt so happy for them because, especially because their 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.080 forward pack in that first half in particular, did lay 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:26.840 that platform for them to be able to attack the 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.279 way they did. So, Yeah, Den Young kept it cool 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.920 and probably because he knows what's coming in the next 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.719 couple of weeks for them. It's not an easy month. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.360 But the players definitely the monkey was off the back 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:37.360 and you can definitely see it. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:42.360 They've got Cornella away this week, putting you on the spot. 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.360 How many more wins do you think that can get 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.760 this year? I mean, it was a wonderful performance. Take 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.680 but if they only finished the season with one or 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.200 two wins or three, it's still an abomination of a year. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.800 And the second part of the question is was it 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.120 enough yesterday for the Draggings to say, right, Dean Young 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.280 is our man on. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.120 How many more games they're going to win? Just looking 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.880 at the next month, it's Karanulla Knights, Raiders Tigers. None 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.800 of those games going to be easy. The Raiders have 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.080 been up and down Tigers as well, quite plucky teams. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.560 So you know then they have the buye after that, 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.320 So I don't I can't. Yeah, I don't want to 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.160 say they're not going to win another game because who knows, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.520 they might ambush another team and then the lead up 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:26.040 to that Broncos win. They were pretty good against Kenrith 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.680 and they were pretty good against the Warriors before they 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.560 finally knocked over Brisbane, so there might be another sneaky 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:32.680 winning there. 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.960 Dean Young, we're thinking he's the man. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.600 I think it's really hard. He would have to get 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.520 more wins For me. I feel like he's this is 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.040 my kind of thing at the moment. I think it's 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.760 a poison chalice that Dragons Gig is an interim coach 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.520 because his body of work that he'll be presenting to 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.800 the board to be hired might only be one win, 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.640 and that's really hard to make a decision if you're 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.800 looking at statistics and how the team's performed. He would 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.200 have to get some more wins to feel like that 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:55.200 he secured that job. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.160 I feel a bit sorry for Din. He's such a 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:01.080 great Dragons person. His father was a great Dragons person. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.800 He's come in when the club desperately needed him, and 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.560 he's done the right thing, and it could end up 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.760 resulting in him missing out on the top job. So 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.360 I feel a bit sorry for him. Do you think 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:13.640 he's the man to take them forward? 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.200 I'm with Sophie. I'd probably like to see a few 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.240 more wins. Having said that, I love the way every 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.280 time he's been in front of the media, how he 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.880 speaks about the job he's got to do, how much 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:30.200 he cares about the club. Before the Broncos game, he said, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.480 we lost the physical battle against the Warriors, and our 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.160 focus this week has been to win the physical battle. 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.880 And his young forward pack responded to that so clearly. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.920 You know, and even guys that haven't been playing well 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.120 like vour Homes, you know, finally, delivered. So he might 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.600 not have the wins on the resume, but if he's 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.839 got the backing of the players, then you know, maybe 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.400 he is the right guy to take them forward. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.000 It's also not going to get harder, Like next year 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:55.920 is coming in with a great spine. They've got some 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.360 great recruits coming in. This is the hardest it's going 0:08:58.400 --> 0:08:59.880 to be for him for the next eighteen months if 0:08:59.920 --> 0:09:01.760 he to get the gig. Like, it is really tough 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:02.240 right now. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.280 All right, it seems like every week we get stuck 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.520 into the same topic. Winch comes out of Bellmore, another loss, 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.520 a very cranky Cameron Serrelo at full time over a 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.960 couple of on field rulings. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.559 Alex, what did you make of. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.920 The two decisions that Sorello was cranky about the no 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.120 try to Stephen Crydon and of course the big one 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.720 was the charge down by Josh Curran. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.280 Yeah, so it's unfortunate, but that is the rule that 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.120 the player charging down can't hit a player's leg, and 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:33.960 there's been If you want to win about that one, 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:35.920 then there's about twenty teams that get to wings as 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.520 well where there's been nominal contact. Making the argument that 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.600 will Jerome just turned around and run, So it wasn't 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.600 that big a deal that shouldn't come into play. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:43.520 The will is the rule. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.240 It doesn't matter a player gets a head knock and 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:46.880 they get up and keep running, They've still had a 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.439 head knock. So the a lot of argument that Surroundo 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.720 was using there doesn't work. It's the rule. You might 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.600 want to change the rule, but that's the rule. The 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.720 other one is the collision with Kiraz and. 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.800 Was it Truba. Yeah, yeah, I don't. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.599 Understand what the big why everyone's so upset. It just 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.079 seemed like a genuine contest and you can't stop momentum 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:07.000 physics is going to happen. 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.280 It didn't look like an illegal play. I look, corraz 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.920 actually was the instagrator. He ran into Taruva another way around. Yeah, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:13.360 and like him. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.679 Some Bulldogs fans are saying, oh, he was offside, it 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.280 should never have happened, but they review that, and again, 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.960 offsides are very difficult to review. So there wasn't like 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.760 special significant mistreatment of the Bulldogs. You could argue they 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.840 were unlucky, but it wasn't undeserved. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.680 I think so Alos just I think he's frustrated the 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.120 year that he wanted to have is just not happening. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.760 Another one we talked about was the Crichton no try 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.240 he grounded the ball on someone's leg. I think it 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.439 was you could see straight away that he was anxious 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.400 because he tried to roll over very quickly to get 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.840 it down, which indicated that he knew straight away that 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.600 it wasn't a try. So I think as much as 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.560 I irritated the dogs, I think both those decisions were 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.880 right now for Timmy, you wrote about this this morning, 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:59.400 the Stephen Crichton decision not to challenge a fumble from 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.559 Lachland Gown and when Galvin did say, please challenge it, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:03.080 what did. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.240 You make of it? 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.319 It was definitely an interesting and in the commentary it 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.360 was just described as a bit of a flashpoint. I 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.360 don't think in the grand scheme of things, it's probably 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.440 a bit of a storm in a teacup. But when 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.640 you think about the fact that Galvin is the number 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.560 seven and the general you know when he might not 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.040 be the captain, but when your number seven is saying 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.200 to the captain, oh, you know, look, I'm pretty sure 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.840 this wasn't a fumble, And if you look at the replay, 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.280 it wasn't a fumble, Kaypeerspoort does make a raking motion 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.280 at the ball. You know, it makes you think, okay, 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.560 is there there's Critter, the captain not fully trust his 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:45.319 number seven, and again is that problematic? In real time? 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.600 To Crutter's defense and the ref's defense, it did look 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.079 like it was a knock on. It wasn't until it 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.280 was slowed down. Eventually Critter said, okay, let's challenge it. 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.560 By that point it was too late. So yeah, look, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.960 it was something that Canonbury fans I got copped a 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.000 bit of heat on social media about bringing that up, 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.360 sort of like stirring the pot. But Cannaber fans did 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:08.840 notice it as well, and pretty instantly. Bulldogs insiders have 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.080 almost immediately knocked back the suggestion that there's some sort 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.199 of you know, distrust or issue between Galvin and Crichton 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.839 crighton to me and in a lead up to last 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:23.360 his final series like launched an impassioned defense of Galvin. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.040 So I don't think there's any kind of personal issues 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.800 between them, but you know, on the surface, it did 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.280 seem like that the captain doesn't trust his number seven, 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:32.880 which you know could be problematic. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.440 What did you make with a body language Alex with 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.880 Crochton and Galvin, did you see anything in there? Without 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.720 being body language experts, clearly yeah, did you see something 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.880 there that you thought or something's. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:43.520 Just not quite right here? 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.160 No, I honestly, like I'm not a body language expert, 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.280 so it just looked like he was like distrusting. It 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:50.880 looked like a strip, and then it didn't look like 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.360 a strip for Crichton, and then he's made the decision 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.840 as challes but it's too little, too late. But for me, 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.600 I think and maybe Bulldogs fans can speak into this, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.960 but gascutters come out and said that we're taking responsible, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.080 we're taking this on the chin. This is all good, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.280 but I keep seeing a lack of responsibility and ownership 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.959 from the Bulldog's leadership, particularly Surrealdough, like he's blaming that, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.079 he's blaming that they didn't get the call on the rake. Well, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.800 they should take responsibility on what we're talking about and 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.080 use the captain's challenge. And this is not the first 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.600 time there's been discussion about referees. There's been other times 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:25.000 where it's like hints, it wasn't so volatile and passionate, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.280 but he's very very regularly throughout the season. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:28.760 Put some blame on the refs. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.080 I think the six agains two were seven nil to 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:33.960 the bull Yeah, so they got the rubber of the grain. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:38.719 Yeah, but there was also you know, Sitily Chupreneur was 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.160 lucky that he didn't get SimBin for that shot shoulder 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.840 touch charge on m I C. Macasini. There was I 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.240 think the was it the Galvan try as well, where 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:48.920 when that was slowed down it looks like the river 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.720 got his hand in between the ball. Looked like a 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.920 bit of separation. So yeah, it's you know, we're not 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.200 used to seeing coaches who lose say they didn't get 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:59.679 the rubb of the green, but there was just as 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.160 many that could have gone the Tiger's way they didn't. 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.360 I'll ask you a question, put you on the spot, Alex. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.160 Do the Bulldogs play finals football this year? 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.520 I generally thought whoever won this game, whoever lost this 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.800 game is kind of said goodbye to finals. I think 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.240 there's still space for that. They could do it, but 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.000 that's the kind of game they need to win. And 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.040 I've been piling on the Bulldogs here, but I actually 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.720 thought they played well. I thought they were aggressive, Setilli 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.240 was like insane. He looked illlegal to run that hard 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:25.520 and fast, so they had. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:26.400 They have the hunger. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.960 They've just got a similar problem to the Dragons where 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:33.120 they can't convert their opportunities into points. So because of that, 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.440 because they just can't, it's just clunky. They almost never 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.800 go left. I don't see them making finals. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:37.960 Well. 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.960 I think we saw one of, if not the games 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.120 of the year out there at Combak Stadium on Sunday night, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.840 the Panthers against the Warriors, even with five State of 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.480 Origin players rested. It was a classic game, high quality 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.360 elite footy. Alex, what did you make of it? It was unbelievable. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.080 If I was like, hey, we want an advertisement for 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:58.720 the game, and I wanted to bring someone new to 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.840 get into footy, that's the I take them to. The 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.360 discipline from both teams was amazing. The collision was so good. 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.920 There was argie bargie, there was getting in people's faces. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.640 It was tight down to the last minute. You didn't 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.680 know what the result would be. And the atmosphere I 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.680 was there at the stadium, the atmosphere was insane. The 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.720 Warriors fans turned out and sometimes it felt like we 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.400 were at a Warrior's home game. It was electric energy, 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.280 players played phenomenally. The refereeing was very decent, like you 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:23.760 couldn't really criticize the refee. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.280 Just an unbelievable spectacle determined. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.600 Do you think we saw the Grand Final in late 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.120 May or should I say the Grand final teams. 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.000 May? Yes? 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.000 I think so far we're almost at the halfway point 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.040 of this season. There's no doubt that Penrith and the 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.240 Warriors have been the two best teams and most consistent 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.960 teams all year. Can you imagine a Panthers Warriors Grand Final, 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.560 I mean, just the Warriors against anybody in a Grand Final, 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.640 considering this surge of support that they have in the 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:59.320 last couple of years. It'd be amazing, talk about, you know, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.840 a spectacle the game, It'd be absolutely amazing. But yeah, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.080 I still think, I mean, there is definitely now at 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:07.720 a point in the season where we can see there 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.560 is a gap between Penrith and the Warriors and everyone else. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.240 Well, I wrote Bulldogs bite today on Lourie Daily, and 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.000 how I think that the state of New South Wales 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.640 or many people aren't showing him the full respect. New 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.960 South Wales into Queensland on Queensland. They won in the 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.400 final minute. Yes, Carlin Ponger was sent off. I understand 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.880 that thoroughly, but we had six debutantes and I think 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:37.520 ultimately Lourie isn't getting the respect that he deserves. We 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.240 won as in New South Wales, yet the way he's 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.240 been chastised it's like we got beaten. So I just 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.320 think Lurie deserves a bit more credit for what he did. 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:46.920 I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:48.320 will disagree, Alex. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:49.360 What did you make it look? Yeah? 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.160 I disagree and I love Laurie. Think he's a respectable, 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.080 likable guy. But you'll get respect when you get a 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.440 series win, and that's what it's going to come down to. Yes, 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.840 they've won, and there were some parts of his decision 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.840 made that we're very astute, Like the Bradley one, We're 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:04.720 all like, what's going on? 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.960 That was great, But the pack that he. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:11.560 Chose, not starting with Murray, how the team actually played, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.600 they couldn't get it to the edges. There's a lot 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.080 going on there that I think is questionable and we 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.680 must remember, yes we won, to be proud of the win, 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.119 but if Queenslanders were claiming that if they played like 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.480 we played and were claiming a win, I'd be calling 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.440 them diluted like we were insipid for the first sixty minutes. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.600 It took a major game breaking moment for us to 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.919 click into gear. And yes we clicked into gear, we 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.720 stayed present. We won, but there's still so we will 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.680 get smoked if we played like game one and Queensland 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:38.840