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Speaker 1: On last night we were watching Mary at First Sight.

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Speaker 1: Liz was saying it quite a few times as well,

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Speaker 1: the poor bugger, I mean, she had to get up

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: It was to watch because for the first time Liz

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Speaker 3: was seeing all the stuff we'd seen for months now

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Speaker 3: where Sam was just so vile, and watching it back

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Speaker 3: because Brian when he was in studio I sort of

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Speaker 3: found him a bit endearing, but watching it back, I've

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Speaker 3: been plotting his death since you have.

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Speaker 1: You're really off him, so angry with him. I mean

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Speaker 1: we've spoken to Liza about this before, but this was

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Speaker 1: the moment on the couch last night when she heard

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Speaker 1: about the comments that Sam said about her on their

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Speaker 4: I've never really dated girls.

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Speaker 1: I guess his be's Elizabeth in the past.

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Speaker 4: What maybe I'll get her running in the mornings or something.

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Speaker 5: We'd me drag her out of bed. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: She'll be right, We'll get a going, she'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: What a horrible human and lucky enough we've got this

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Speaker 1: early Elizabeth. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Love, Hi guy, how are you?

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Speaker 3: How did it feel watching all that back last night,

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Speaker 3: I presume he sat down and watched it with a

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Speaker 6: First of all, can I just say, you know how

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Speaker 6: I just heard you saying how he seems very endearing

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Speaker 6: in person. Yes, he sings like that and he tries

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Speaker 6: to charm everybody, and yeah, that's not what he's like.

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Speaker 3: He came in, he was so polite to us and

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Speaker 2: It's really nice to meet. Even when he left, we

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Speaker 2: all went, you know what, not a bad bloke.

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Speaker 3: And then last night, I swear it was all I

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Speaker 6: But that's the thing. He tries to smith it over

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Speaker 6: and goes whom he couldn't be, and it's like, well no,

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Speaker 6: because he thought everybody, and even through the whole entire

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Speaker 6: filming he pulled everybody. And I'm out biting my tongue

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Speaker 6: biting me was going, well, this is not what he's doing.

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Speaker 6: And what he's doing very snake like and sneaky and horrible.

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Speaker 1: Liz, you know what, we had Sire Ellen here a

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Speaker 1: while ago, and Cyrel said to us, he's a bombshell.

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Speaker 1: She said this off air. She said he's a bombshell

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Speaker 1: for you. Sam doesn't rock up to the reunion. So

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Speaker 1: then when we had seen him in here, we were

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Speaker 1: questioning him all the time. Mate, you rub up at

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Speaker 1: the reunion and he's going, yeah, yeah, I'm there now.

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Speaker 1: He was talking about the dinner party. But then, can

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Speaker 1: you tell us what happened? When were you told that

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Speaker 1: Sam wasn't even coming to the final episode? Like did

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Speaker 1: they try? How hard did they try to get him there? Elizabeth?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'll give you a little bit of insider, right,

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Speaker 6: So two weeks prior to the reunion being filmed, we

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Speaker 6: all started our interviews. Yep, So we all started our interviews,

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Speaker 6: and then someone had told me that was interviewing me.

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Speaker 6: He said what did you feel when he basically shamed

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Speaker 6: your weight? And I was like what? So I wasn't

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Speaker 6: really meant to know. So basically at the dinner party,

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Speaker 6: I was ready just to go, like just go in

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Speaker 6: on him and say, well, how can you do that?

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Speaker 6: But not in an aggressive manner, in a manner to say, look,

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Speaker 6: that's not why you can't put that out there, and

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Speaker 6: you know, not only saying that about me, but what

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Speaker 6: was told that, you know, he didn't even really want

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Speaker 6: on him. So that's why the dinner party, I said,

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Speaker 6: he didn't show up because he's a weasel and he

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Speaker 3: Well, I was surprised contractually he didn't have to be there,

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Speaker 2: Have you actually spoken to him since.

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Speaker 1: No, the last time.

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Speaker 6: There's no need to.

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Speaker 1: There's no need to remember. The last time that we

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Speaker 1: had you in you said that you'd received you actually

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Speaker 1: received a message from Sam and also a message from Inness.

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Speaker 1: So did you reply to both of it?

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Speaker 6: No? No, So when I read Innes's message that was

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Speaker 6: literally on your show on air and them before I

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Speaker 1: I think there was a moment last night though, Liz

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Inness actually went up into the couch

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Speaker 1: and apologized to you with what happened, and she broke

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 6: Definitely, definitely. I'm one hundred percent team in us all

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Speaker 6: the way.

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Speaker 1: Well, so you've completely flipped now and you're good friends

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not friends with her. I wish her all

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Speaker 6: the best in the world.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 6: I even hate the fact that troll go after her.

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Speaker 6: They shouldn't do that, but I was part and parcel

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Speaker 6: of it. But the way they've gone towards her, I

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Speaker 6: think I think that's completely unnecessary. Yeah, so we're not

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Speaker 6: we're not friends, but I do have respect for her

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Speaker 6: coming up and standing up for me and standing up

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Speaker 6: him and me that back up because she really liked him.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was hard to watch, wasn't it. She was genuinely heartbroken.

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Speaker 3: You do worry about her?

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Speaker 2: What about Mike though? What about that bloke? And here's

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Speaker 3: That was interesting to watch someone who should have just

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Speaker 6: We don't need to give that air debris.

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Speaker 1: He Liz. I don't know if you did you stick

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Speaker 1: around and watch Talking Mary? Did you watch it afterwards

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Speaker 2: Oh what did you think when you saw it?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 2: That's not a good story, is it?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, like we sort of so I had

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Speaker 1: Get go, right, So can you tell us in the

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Speaker 1: break because Benny Fordham we're going to get Betty Fordham

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Speaker 1: swearing at each other and having a real crack at

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Speaker 11: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they went home in separate cars?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, but I mean, if there's genuine love there,

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Speaker 6: I hope they can work through it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, give me you recogn there's genuine love there. There's

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Speaker 1: no love there at all, no love, no chance. He's

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Speaker 1: that's if she can do it that easy in one night,

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Speaker 1: what's it going to be like when we're together for

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Speaker 1: a year or two?

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Speaker 6: No comment, no comment.

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Speaker 1: Well, Liz, we think that you've handled yourself very well

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Speaker 1: through this whole process, and we appreciate you coming on

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Speaker 1: our show. Liz, thank you so much. Gir R Kelly,

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Speaker 1: we know that he's in a bit of trouble sets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised you would have an R. Kelly story.

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Speaker 2: He's a controversial character at the moment.

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Speaker 1: He needs to keep making money though, Sarah. So he's

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Speaker 1: decided to do a club appearance in Illinois. So this

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Speaker 12: Well, it's your boy kills and I got an event

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 12: This is how I got to get paid now for

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Speaker 1: Please take it easy, okay, it easy. Don't get stuck

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Speaker 1: into me. So people rocked up. They didn't know what

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Speaker 1: was to see R. Kelly perform. I've got the whole

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Speaker 13: This is how long it went for here it is easy.

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Speaker 2: That was it, seriously, that was it.

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Speaker 1: And then so I'm trying to work out how much

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Speaker 14: One of the greatest artists us doesn't want to come.

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Speaker 1: To write music and making music.

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Speaker 14: But I don't understand why we played one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even have backing music. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: He stuck around, he had a couple of bourbons, and

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Speaker 2: What a creature. That guy is a mess.

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Speaker 1: But he's making his money these days. Abigail Disney fifty

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Speaker 2: Okay, what did you want to she's supposed to have

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Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse's.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't dressed like she's a billionaire.

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Speaker 2: Don't she see her shoulders? That is it? That necklace

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Speaker 2: could be worth a don't know?

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Speaker 5: You would have expected her to present a little better

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not glamorous.

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Speaker 4: Don't you reckon?

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Speaker 1: Did you know that you were wealthy? She said, My

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Speaker 5: So just a humble little I mean, we're just trying

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm learning so much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the interview.

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Speaker 5: From the creator of Riddle Time, from the creator of

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Speaker 5: I Won't quote face, I would.

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Speaker 1: Not be putting my hand up for those I tell

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Speaker 1: you the best game ever, from those that loved Happy Birthday,

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Speaker 5: I present a brand new segment for your Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 4: It's called Hide and Seek.

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Speaker 1: Wire whip this.

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Speaker 5: Hide and see.

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Speaker 4: No, you can see what's going on in the studio.

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Speaker 4: We have got a cardboard a cardboard box cut out.

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Speaker 1: How tomorrowize for this poor celebrity.

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Speaker 5: Design came up a bit a slim, didn't it. No,

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Speaker 5: we're not going to have Clive Palmer behind there. What

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Speaker 5: the thing is? Right, You've got a cardboard cutout whippers

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Speaker 5: Hide and Sing. Then we've got the curtain and the

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Speaker 4: No, no, it's not always a singer.

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Speaker 1: It's a celebrity.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right, sir, I ask your question.

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Speaker 5: Final.

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Speaker 1: Can anyone get involved in thirteen twenty fourteen if somebody

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Speaker 5: Anyone can play along if they're listening.

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Speaker 4: I want to get in.

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Speaker 1: Give a prize Tom for somebody here.

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Speaker 4: We'll send you along to fitz whip his new movie

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Speaker 4: Wonder part Bom check a boom.

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Speaker 5: All right, our mystery celebrity is standing behind the booth

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Speaker 5: for the very first episode of Hide and Seeing. Do

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Speaker 5: you want to take it away with your first line?

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Speaker 9: Baby, I think of you when I'm all alone and

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Speaker 9: it's half past two.

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Speaker 2: Such a girl.

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Speaker 1: It's a girl.

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Speaker 5: You've got that far, You've got that far. I think

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Speaker 1: What was the first?

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Speaker 4: We don't worry about it, don't worr about it?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 1: Who cares? What the song?

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Speaker 4: It's not your songs, not guess the song by the celebrity.

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Speaker 4: Point, Sarah, keep singing celebrity kids on the hand, maybe

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Speaker 1: Imagine it's not.

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Speaker 4: No, it's more exciting than.

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Speaker 9: Your sons.

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Speaker 1: If it's not.

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Speaker 4: Really high there, well.

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Speaker 5: Geez, you didn't specify the one more song in this

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Speaker 5: last song might really give it away.

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Speaker 9: So if you can't beat you.

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Speaker 4: It's microphone.

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Speaker 11: So they were clues, by the way as well. It

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Speaker 1: It was the second song.

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Speaker 11: It was probably.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah Maryland?

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Speaker 3: So how are you?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm very good?

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Speaker 11: Thanks for having me this week.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for that? Yeah, segment, wasn't it?

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Speaker 11: It was worth that box?

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Speaker 2: Do you have no idea? Stuff?

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Speaker 1: Remember?

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Speaker 2: Got fired to fund that?

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Speaker 1: How often do you warm up the vocal cords these days?

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Speaker 1: Never listen to it? Do you do you perform at all.

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Speaker 1: No one really wants me to know you with your

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Speaker 2: Is very funny.

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Speaker 4: That's great. Has he always been like that?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's hilarious. Yeah, it's good and bad.

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Speaker 4: And is that where you get it from his mum?

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Speaker 11: And my mum's pretty funny. It's more of a smart ass.

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Speaker 11: I think that's why I get my bitchy sided.

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Speaker 5: Okay, sure, yeah, well that makes complete sense. Did you

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 11: I fell asleep and I wanted to watch it so

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Speaker 1: Finally, you know what they said? There was an article

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Speaker 1: the effect. It was too much.

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Speaker 2: Really, do you.

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Speaker 1: Think anyone will watch the show if it's just love?

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Speaker 5: It's awesome about it?

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Speaker 11: Isn't there one couple that's brilliant and.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Well, you need one couple, you need one

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Speaker 1: Makes you feel really good about your own relationship when

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Speaker 11: That one was saying to me, what idiots go on

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Speaker 11: that show? And I was like, I had a whole show.

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Speaker 4: The person.

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Speaker 2: So friends, Love Island back.

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Speaker 11: We don't know when it is yet or where.

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Speaker 2: It is pasting yet right now? Have you got some

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't know yet.

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Speaker 5: It's just you can find out island dot com dot au.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: What do you want on it? Do you want complete

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Speaker 5: fruit lops?

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: Last time it was brilliant. I just think it comes

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Speaker 4: I want an emotion.

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Speaker 5: I want a lot of emotional ideas, and this time

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, where would you like love Europe?

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Speaker 11: They just made me a few lines. I'm like, repeat them.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know a lot. No, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Last time.

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Speaker 5: Last time we saw it was last year. You're still

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Speaker 4: It's been what six months?

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Speaker 1: You met the plane, the one that you met on

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Speaker 1: the plane and you had a kiss on the plane, yes, awesome, and.

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Speaker 11: Everyone said it wouldn't last.

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Speaker 4: Look at me now you.

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Speaker 1: On the one the first year anniversary. Did you go

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Speaker 2: That's the way way to celebrate, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Don't need to jump onto never a bit of a

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Speaker 4: Another shows.

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Speaker 1: So that was great, successful game show.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, I'm not the kipping guys.

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Speaker 4: You really better, you're really shot for the start.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know you can get on radio. Don't offend

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Speaker 11: your next guest.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Jackman. Controversy from all angles last night. Married at

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Speaker 1: first sight and then I didn't even know this, Sarah

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Speaker 1: But one man we need to ask a few questions

451
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Speaker 1: is Nick. He was on the show last night and

452
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 1: he joins us, now, thanks for coming on, buddy.

453
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 15: Hey, thanks for having me.

454
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 1: Oh mate, big night last night. I mean, did you

455
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 1: where did.

456
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Speaker 4: You watch it?

457
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 1: Did you have the family with you? What were you doing? Mate?

458
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 1: Did you have a new girlfriend with your Nick? Who

459
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 1: did you watch it with?

460
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 15: I just a couple of friends. I was getting her

461
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 15: talking marriage, So we watch.

462
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 1: It there actually talking you know what, can we introduce

463
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 1: someone into this conversation, Sarah, do you mind this?

464
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, No, this person needs to tell

465
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 3: us what they've seen.

466
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Speaker 1: Because you just brought up talking married Nick. Can you

467
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: onto that show? One man that hosted that show last

468
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: night as well? And it was a very interesting night.

469
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 1: We love this man. Good mate of ours, Benny Ford,

470
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: and welcome to the show, buddy.

471
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 8: It's he Whipper Sarah, Nick, Good morning, Dan, anyone else there.

472
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 3: Ben, You're going to have to confess what really went

473
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 3: down last night because we know you saw more than

474
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Speaker 3: what we saw on the TV.

475
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 8: Look in case even worked it out. They just bring

476
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 8: me into cause trouble when they need a bit of trouble. Course,

477
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 8: So look, I was just kidding. We were getting ready

478
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 8: to interview Jesse Dan during the ad break, and look,

479
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,239
Speaker 8: it was just so teen. The two of them were

480
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 8: sitting there. You can tell, you know, when you can tell, oh,

481
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 8: hang on a minute, there's something not right here. This

482
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 8: is going to go downhill pretty fast. But then we

483
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 8: had about two or three minutes to kill in the

484
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Speaker 8: ad break, and then one of them cracked a joke

485
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 8: and the other one didn't like it, and then they

486
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 8: just started abusing each other in their hand bombs and

487
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Speaker 8: everything else. Now, under normal circumstances, I would have said

488
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 8: to the producers listen, grab that and turn it around

489
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 8: and we'll play it, you know, straight out of the break.

490
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 8: But there were so many swear words they wouldn't have

491
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 8: had time to be but all so when they started

492
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 8: the interview, I just said, look, let's be honest with

493
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 8: the audience. There was just a bui up f bombs

494
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 8: and whatever during the ad break, so clearly there's intension

495
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 8: here on on the dead and then it just continued

496
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 8: to go even more par shaped.

497
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Speaker 1: Well it did go pear shaped, Benny, when you did

498
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: come back and you asked the serious question at the end,

499
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: and the penelists asked, do you see this relationship lasting

500
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Speaker 1: between Jessica and Dan? This was the response.

501
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Speaker 2: Three months on, you're still having some trust issues. Will

502
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Speaker 2: you be able to get past it?

503
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

504
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 8: I don't know.

505
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: That's me been honest. You know, like me and jess

506
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: get along great.

507
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Speaker 5: Everything's great, and we have great times and we do

508
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 5: have great moments and things to feel really fun and

509
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 5: happy when we're together.

510
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 4: But then one little negative.

511
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Speaker 1: Like last Night or Tonight's episodes can just raise so

512
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 1: much doubt. Do you feel that it's just brilliant?

513
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 16: Yeah?

514
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: Are you going to answer down this question?

515
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 11: Yess, I just I think this is a conversation we

516
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 11: need to be having on air.

517
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: It was just so awkward. So, Nick, were you were

518
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: you in the studio when that was happening as well?

519
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, we were there.

520
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 5: We were there.

521
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 15: We were just watching, going, oh my god, what is happening?

522
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 15: And yeah, you can see the body language. I didn't

523
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 15: look didn't look too flattering. It was a bit concerning.

524
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Speaker 3: Nick, Do you reckon dance justified? I mean, this stuff

525
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: all happened months ago. They've had a relationship since then.

526
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 3: You were the guy that you know that she apparently

527
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 3: was hitting on, which is pretty obvious to all of us.

528
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Speaker 3: Do you reckon Dan has a right to still have

529
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: an issue with it?

530
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Speaker 2: Was it that dramatic?

531
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Speaker 15: No, it wasn't that dramatic. I don't think you know,

532
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 15: it was a couple of months ago. They've definitely been

533
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 15: through this already at the reunion when we were actually

534
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 15: there filming a couple of months ago. You think, you know,

535
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 15: maybe they've moved on, But I don't know, maybe watching

536
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 15: her back, sort of bringing up, you know, a few

537
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 15: skeletons out of the closet, sort of making them question things.

538
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, Nick, why did you Why did you defend?

539
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: Why did you defend Jessica? Because Dan asked you, Nick,

540
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm asking your Manda, Man, did she make a pass

541
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: at you? And you were you were like, I don't know,

542
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand. I don't know. Are you

543
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: friends with Jesse? Is sort of in that group with

544
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: those girls?

545
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 15: No, definitely not in those girls. Jess and I the

546
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 15: sort of friends. Yeah, I spoke to I speak to

547
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 15: here and there, but I speak to everyone from the

548
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 15: cast here and there. I defended it. I don't know

549
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 15: she I don't know. It's weird because she just copped

550
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 15: so much that night. I know she Some people say

551
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 15: she probably deserved it and what she's done in that,

552
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 15: but you know, I was just so over the whole

553
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 15: experiment by then. I was just like, look, they're still together,

554
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 15: let them go, like, let them be happy, Like why

555
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 15: are we here now trying to destroy them? Whenever moves on?

556
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 15: And I just felt bad. I don't know, I'm just

557
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 15: too nice.

558
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: I guess, hey, Benny, when the when the cameras stopped

559
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 3: rolling on that awkward moment, did the two of them

560
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: walk in different directions?

561
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: Or do you reckon they went home together?

562
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 8: Oh? Look, I didn't pay too much attentions there after

563
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 8: kind of lighting the fire, I turned.

564
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: You were fist pumping me.

565
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't want to look at it. I just

566
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 8: threw the matches away and pretended it wasn't me. But look,

567
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 8: I would. I think they've got a future. Come on,

568
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 8: hang on a minute, finished, I think they've got a future.

569
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 8: I think that future can be measured in hours.

570
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: We should be laughing.

571
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: It's terrible, I thought, I Come on. I mean, if

572
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: Dan's watched the footage back again, he's running for the heels.

573
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 8: Come on, it's over. I hate to be the person

574
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 8: to break that news, but honestly, you could tell from

575
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 8: last night that he's obviously realized on this thing's run

576
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 8: its course and it's only a matter of time until

577
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 8: I'm out of here. I mean not that I want

578
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 8: to get involved in other people's business.

579
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: The big question is, though, Bennie, how are you going

580
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: to break this to your TGB listeners? I mean, are

581
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: you going to do this on your show this afternoon.

582
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 8: Oh mate, I'm feeling a little bit croaking in the voice.

583
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 8: I might have to take the afternoon.

584
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: You just got to hope that the Prime Minister calls

585
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: the election today, Bennie. So you've got something else to

586
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: talk about.

587
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, it's just what it makes you realize. I'll

588
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 8: see you this. It makes you realize in your own

589
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 8: relationships and in your own marriage or boyfriend's or girlfriends,

590
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 8: if you've got a relationship where it doesn't have all

591
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 8: of that drama, doesn't it feel really good? Oh good?

592
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: That's why I love this show so much. Because I'm

593
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: sorry to say this, Nick, When I watched Married at

594
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: First Sight, it makes me feel so much better about

595
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: my relationship. It actually, and I think that's why Australians

596
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: have fallen in love with this show, because it's like,

597
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, those people are going through so much drama.

598
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: Our our mindor little issues are just that they're minute. Yeah, Nick, Nick,

599
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: you don't have to.

600
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: You don't have to make you feel better about his

601
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: life before you go.

602
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 5: Though.

603
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: There were some apparently pickies of you and Cyrel making

604
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: out last week.

605
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: Is that true?

606
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 5: Ah?

607
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, we caught up, We caught out, sort a

608
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 15: bit of closure, a bit of a bit of a

609
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 15: good bye.

610
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: We'll hang on.

611
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: It says you couldn't keep your hands off each other,

612
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: is what I was reading.

613
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: But she's got a boyfriend, Oh does she?

614
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 15: I'm not too sure what's going on there.

615
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: So Nigga, are you back on with Cyrel? Is that

616
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: just a party? Pash?

617
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 15: Just the party? Pash just would definitely not back on.

618
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 15: Like I said, we'll just a bit of closure, a

619
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 15: bit of a goodbye, you know, because we finished the

620
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 15: experiment in such a terrible way. We never really got

621
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 15: the closure to sort of catch up properly.

622
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: And like I said, that's why I love this because

623
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: it makes me feel so much better about my relationship.

624
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: Benny and Nick, thank you very much for coming on

625
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: the show.

626
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 8: Boys.

627
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: Gymnasts didn't know this when we got Cam on from

628
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: Married at First Sight, and he said that he had

629
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: a horrific he broke his leg, had a horrific accident

630
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: when he was playing rugby and he was supposed to

631
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: be six foot four sra but it stunted his grath.

632
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: The other thing he told us is that gymnasts are

633
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: the same. They work so hard to do so many weights.

634
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: It stunts their growth as well. That's why all gymnasts

635
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: are small.

636
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: They start from a very young age.

637
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 4: And then they developed late, don't they say?

638
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: Due to those And also, if you're very tall, you're

639
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 3: not going to be a gymnast.

640
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 5: That's true.

641
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: They're just balls a muscle, aren't I I was never

642
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: going to be a jockey, you know what I mean.

643
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: Somebody's made for and things.

644
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: Samantha Serio, she was competing for Auburn University over in

645
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: the States in gymnastic and this was the floor routine.

646
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: And here's the commentary.

647
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Speaker 5: Yep, and I think she may be heard.

648
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 11: It looked like that ankle came down very awkwardly, and

649
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 11: she is obviously in some pain.

650
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 16: Well, the coaches are quickly calling for the medical staff.

651
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: It looked like that ankle may have buckled. Her ankle

652
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: didn't buckle, Guys, she broke both of her legs.

653
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: At the same time.

654
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Don't What was she doing? I saw this. I haven't

655
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: even watched the video.

656
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 5: When I refused, does anyone seening, Michelle?

657
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: Have you seen it?

658
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 17: No?

659
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 5: I was reading the article and I just can't with

660
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 5: that stuff like knees or legs.

661
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: It's like thirteen twenty fourteen. I want to hear from

662
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: people if you've broken both your legs at the same time,

663
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: or both arms.

664
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Speaker 5: You know what happened to me. I was sitting at home.

665
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 5: My dad was at the casino for dinner with a

666
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: couple of friends, and he tripped down some stairs.

667
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Speaker 4: I don't know why I'm laughing.

668
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 5: Anyway, he tore the tendon right from his patella from

669
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 5: his knee cap to his core, so.

670
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: That means his knee would have gone. I've seen that happen.

671
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 5: Something muscle like your quad muscle snaps all the way

672
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 5: back to your crotch, so there's just this big sort

673
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 5: of divot between your knee cap and the muscle that's

674
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 5: you know, snapped back. Anyway, when he's hit the ground,

675
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: when he's fallen over, he's his phone in his pocket

676
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 5: has wrung home, so I've picked up the phone and

677
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 5: all I can hear is him going.

678
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: All right, I'm fine, gosh.

679
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: And then as he's gone to stand up, not knowing

680
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 5: what he's done, he's he tried to stand on that leg,

681
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 5: couldn't fell over and did the exact same thing to

682
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 5: the other leg.

683
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: No.

684
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 5: So I'm still listening to this phone call and Dad's

685
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 5: going I'm again I'm down.

686
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: So what so what did he what did you end up?

687
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: Did he get two operations?

688
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: I had to?

689
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 5: So you know his knees and his knees, you know

690
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 5: when you see them, you know when you see somebody

691
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: who's either passed out right or they've been knocked out

692
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 5: and they're being dragged with two mates in the armies

693
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 5: over the shoulder. Dad arrived home like that, with two

694
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 5: mates that dragged him out and flopped him onto the bed,

695
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: and the orthopedic surgeon that fixed it said, in the

696
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 5: thirty years of being an author, I have never ever

697
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 5: seen this.

698
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

699
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: Poor Johnny.

700
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: Until he could walk again.

701
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 5: He still hasn't walk now he's still chair.

702
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: Emily and Pendle Hill, what's your story.

703
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 14: In actually me, it's my aunt. She trampoline is shop

704
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 14: on a weekend, was playing with me and my cousin.

705
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 14: She actually fell off the trampoline both arms, but drove

706
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 14: herself to hospital in a manual cast once she got there.

707
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 14: Just give him so much.

708
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 6: She couldn't open the door.

709
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 14: Show to get someone to open the door to let

710
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 14: her out.

711
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: Oh, Wow, So what this?

712
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 5: I know you're going to think I'm joking. Same thing

713
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: happened to daddy fell off. I'm not joking. Both arms

714
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 5: in plaster, and he said the worst thing was he

715
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: was about seven.

716
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: His mum had to hold his little dude.

717
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: Or were Yeah, can your bum, but that would be.

718
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: Without holding him.

719
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't even place pants down because they were

720
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: like straight.

721
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: The story of like breaking both your arms and then

722
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: driving yourself to hospital in an emmanual.

723
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: Card effort, is it what I am?

724
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: Greg? And Alfred's point? What did you do? Greg?

725
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 18: We were doing a bushwalk down the Blue Mountains last year,

726
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 18: were about three kilometers down into a canyon when one

727
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 18: of our friends did both ankles. She broke, so she

728
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 18: broke one of one of the seat and the other

729
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 18: one was a serious tear. So we had about three

730
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 18: kilometers to try and band in her up and carry

731
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 18: her back out and you got around. We got around.

732
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 18: It took about about four hours to get her out

733
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 18: of it.

734
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: Did you have to physically carry her, Greg? Or do

735
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: just had both arms around your shoulders and picked her up?

736
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 15: Yeah?

737
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 18: Souls in parts we couldn't do it because it was

738
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 18: too narrow to try and get her out. We thought

739
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 18: about helicopters, but we're in a bad spot. So then

740
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 18: we had we bandaged. We did a little bit of

741
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 18: a splinter as well, and then we just it was

742
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 18: carrying city, carrying.

743
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 5: City hero Greg Amanda in Black Park.

744
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: What happened to your dad? Amanda?

745
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, my dad an electrician. When he was doing

746
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 10: some work on a new house up and the roof,

747
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 10: and he fell down and landed on both of his

748
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 10: feet on the concrete and crushed both his feet.

749
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: So was there anyone home, Amanda? Or how long was

750
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: he there?

751
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 10: He was out on a job, so he was he

752
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 10: was working at another house, but no one was home. No,

753
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 10: it was a brand new house he was working on.

754
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: What was it? What's the recovery on that, Amanda? Does

755
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: he just have to lay on a bed for like

756
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: six months?

757
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 10: He was in a wheelchair for about about three months

758
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 10: with pins and his.

759
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 5: Feet, Amanda, Great story, Thank you.

760
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: One more bron in Bill Gola, your eight year old.

761
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: Tell us about your eight year old.

762
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 19: Well, he had watching and he was swinging on a

763
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 19: paper bright tree and he fell off and he broke

764
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 19: both his arm and it was two days before to disney.

765
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Land, so both his arms and he's reached. So did

766
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: he get to go to Disneyland, Bron?

767
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 19: Fourteen months later?

768
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: He still got there and everything's all right now, Bron.

769
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 19: You're perfect playing soccer and running around his la.

770
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 5: Not much fun as it's got Dad broke forty two

771
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 5: fingers once that you've just made up two stories. The

772
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 5: documentary leaving Neverland about Michael Jackson and also the two

773
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 5: blokes that have accused him of the sexual abuse, Wade

774
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 5: Robson and also James safe Chuck. The Jackson's have now

775
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 5: released and supporting a thirty minute documentary of their own,

776
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 5: and it's called Neverland Firsthand. So it's investigating the Michael

777
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: jacks Jackson documentary and it aims to refute any of

778
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 5: the allegations of those two boys.

779
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: How would they know was going on though, when Michael

780
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: was at home by himself.

781
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. And they've gone to other people

782
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: that worked at Neverland, gets statements from them.

783
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Okay.

784
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 5: They've also spoken to Tarj Jackson, who is Tito's son,

785
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 5: and the other one is Brandy Jackson, who is Jackie's daughter.

786
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 5: What I didn't know and this is not mentioned throughout

787
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 5: the documentary is that Wade Robson and Brandy were in

788
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: a relationship for a very long time.

789
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: So that's Michael's niece.

790
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 5: That's Michael's niece. But the strange part was in the

791
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 5: documentary Wade talks about how he was really in a

792
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 5: relationship with Michael Jackson. You know, a physical, intimate relationship.

793
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: Was literal, like the whole Michael Jackson stuff. He talks

794
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: about it when he was sort of seven, eight.

795
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: Nine, he was after that.

796
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: Well, did you have a relationship with a with a

797
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: girl before say, sort of fifteen, I don't know.

798
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 5: He talks about it to the abuse, continuing to when

799
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: he was twelve.

800
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, but you would, I don't know.

801
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: Wade Robson's been a part of the Jackson family for

802
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: a while, Yes, since he was absolutely.

803
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 5: So this is the first that's made regarding the evidence

804
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 5: in the documentary.

805
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 17: The film starts off quite convincingly by presenting the viewer

806
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 17: with a lot of evidence to substantiates the early part

807
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 17: of the story about meeting Michael Jackson, about hanging out

808
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 17: with him for the first time. Sty're playing home movies,

809
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 17: they're showing you photographs, but then as soon as it

810
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 17: departs and takes a dark turn and starts talking about abuse,

811
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 17: what you notice is all of the evidence just disappears.

812
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 17: For instance, when they start talking about going to Neverland

813
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 17: and having sleepovers, there is no evidence of this.

814
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 5: See the thing is too And that's kind of what

815
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 5: you need to determine the difference is between the alleged

816
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 5: sexual abuse and just weird behavior. Because if you're talking

817
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 5: about weird behavior, what doesn't carry enough because we know

818
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 5: it's weird, we know he's weird.

819
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: Didn't we see that there's no evidence of sleepovers. Wasn't

820
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: there that creepy footage of Marko and that young boy

821
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: and he was saying that they sleep in each other's bed.

822
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: I remember Michael says, if you'd.

823
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 5: Love me, you'd sleep in mich That trying to tell

824
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 5: you that was weird.

825
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: But that was an easy view, it wasn't it.

826
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was evidence that they slept in the same bay,

827
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 5: but it wasn't evidence of any abuse.

828
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: Don't you think it's funny though?

829
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: Even like what do you know about your aunts and

830
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: uncles and what they do? And even if they were

831
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: incredibly famous and you spent time all of these people

832
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: talking my bieces and nephews who would have zero clue

833
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: what went on.

834
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 5: This is what Taj wanted to say about Wide and

835
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 5: when things became really frustrating. The kids he's referring to

836
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 5: is WHDe wanting to be part of Michael Jackson's kids' lives.

837
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 20: Wade wanted to see the kids again, and so I

838
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 20: made that happen, and it feels like a betrayal.

839
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: I wish I could take it back.

840
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 20: It was very thankful when it happened.

841
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 4: Joy even said at Havenhurst, you know, my.

842
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 20: Biggest fear is to lose contact with the family.

843
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: That to me, it says it all.

844
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 20: Once they lost contact, once that search job ended, that

845
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 20: was like the official you're cut off, right, and it's

846
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 20: almost like a disgruntled employee, right, I'm going to hurt you.

847
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 5: Now, suggesting when the Jackson family cut Wade, that's when

848
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 5: he got angry and that's when he came out with

849
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 5: this apparent story.

850
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: Which might be why he dated Anie, Yeah, to keep

851
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: involved in the family.

852
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 5: Possibly, So says this was further on that relationship between

853
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 5: Brandy and Wade.

854
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 20: This is Brandy, now, your relationship with Wade isn't mentioned

855
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 20: in the film.

856
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 11: I'm not surprised.

857
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is it completely.

858
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 16: Discredits what he's seeing.

859
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 11: He's seeing that he was in.

860
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 16: A relationship with my uncle, that they were in love,

861
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 16: and that they were having a relationship, if you will,

862
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 16: He's seeing that my uncle kept him from women, which

863
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 16: is not true. We were just talking about how my

864
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 16: uncle put us together. It would discount or discredit the

865
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 16: things that he's trained.

866
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: To clean here.

867
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: Right time frame is a big one there, says if

868
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 5: you need to analyze that one, you're talking about where

869
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: they got people on who else was in this documentary

870
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 5: that it was around Neverland. Now, this guy his name

871
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 5: was Brad Sunberg and he was a long time technical

872
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 5: director they call him. So I assume he's sort of

873
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 5: an engineer, maintenance type guy that lived at Neverland and

874
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: maintained everything on a technical front.

875
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 4: This is what he had to say.

876
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 21: Number one, I'm a doubt I'm very aware of kids.

877
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 21: Not in a million years did I ever see a

878
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 21: child around Michael Jackson that looked like they had been distressed, hurt, abused.

879
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 5: So that was his comments.

880
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: I didn't the kids.

881
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: They both sort of said that they weren't distressed at

882
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 3: the time because they loved Michael.

883
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 5: And they probably didn't know what was going on. So

884
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 5: if you do want to go and see the other

885
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 5: side of the story, it is called Neverland. Firsthand.

886
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise is vac to seven thirty on Channel ten.

887
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: You may have seen the primise. We know that Alex

888
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: Nation is backs and then she realizes that she's going

889
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: head to head with their old the old bachelor Ritchie

890
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: is back in there as well, and obviously things get heated.

891
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 7: Do you actually want to go there?

892
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Rich better than the bush? Alex?

893
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 5: So, because you're not going.

894
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: To like my response.

895
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 7: So you saying that you were perfect in our relationship

896
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 7: because I know I trouble.

897
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: Do you wanted to do it?

898
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 14: It was me?

899
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 9: I actually can't believe that you.

900
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 7: Were telling me that it was me.

901
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: So obviously you both disagree on who broke up the relationship.

902
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like we're having like a battle of

903
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 7: whose fault it was?

904
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Yes, which is which is always interesting because when a

905
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: relationship fails here, you always know there's always one person

906
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: that goes Oh, I think I.

907
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: Might go quite clear.

908
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: So you guys you didn't part ways as friends? Obviously?

909
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 7: Oh, it was a bizarre one. So our almost our

910
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 7: entire relationship was long distance, so trying to have.

911
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: The mind in Perth, doesn't he?

912
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just everybody saw it. Non would have been easy.

913
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 4: But hang on a minute, for God's safe.

914
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 5: Was there one thing like that he did? Like you're

915
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 5: talking about things being his fault while the relationship ended.

916
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 7: That's all pointing things.

917
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, but was there one thing that you went I

918
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 5: just can't believe he would do that.

919
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 7: Yes, which is what you will see. Okay, pan out.

920
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 7: It's something that's really quite personal and it's quite confronting,

921
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 7: and I didn't want it to come out in that

922
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 7: kind of environment, but it just had to. I probably

923
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 7: would never see him again. I didn't expect to see

924
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 7: him in there. I just thought, being the bachelor, do

925
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 7: you go into paradise?

926
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 4: Sure?

927
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: You started a relationship quite quickly after that, though, didn't.

928
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 7: I was on the hard tag.

929
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 8: Yes?

930
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: Hot?

931
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was hot and she was scared. Let me

932
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 7: tell you she was?

933
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: She was she former flame? Or did you only just

934
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: meet her?

935
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 9: No?

936
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 7: So she was something that took me by surprise. I'd

937
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 7: never been with a woman before.

938
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

939
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 7: When I told mom that I was seeing a woman.

940
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 7: She didn't flinch because she said I used to say

941
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 7: things to her when I was a little girl about

942
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 7: my friends that I didn't know how I felt about

943
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 7: my friends that were girls. I don't remember those conversation

944
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 7: with her, and I've always dated men. So I remember

945
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 7: rocking up to my first football training at Frankston Bombers

946
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 7: and I just clocked her and I was like, there's

947
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 7: just something about her that is so intriguing. And it

948
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 7: confused me because I'm like, Oh, do I want to

949
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 7: kind of be romantic or is this just I just

950
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 7: think she's cool, She's really good at football. And then

951
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 7: I couldn't control my feelings and I made it very

952
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 7: aware to her that I liked her. And then we

953
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 7: were at the Classic Footyball and I passed her on

954
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 7: the middle of.

955
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: The dance Classic and then it was on and do

956
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 5: you mind if I ask how that ended? Alex, Like,

957
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 5: why did that wrap up?

958
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 8: Oh?

959
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 7: So everything was kind of on fast forward for her

960
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 7: and I. It was just this super intense, passionate, beautiful

961
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 7: relationship is something that I really hold close to me.

962
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 7: And she proposed to me. Did she after we'd only

963
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 7: been together for three and a half months.

964
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: Wow quick, And at the time.

965
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 7: Because I was so madly in love with her, I

966
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 7: said yes. I was like, yes, like I'm madly in

967
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 7: love with you and I'm crazy about you. And then

968
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 7: I think I just freaked out and I was like,

969
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 7: this is moving too quickly. And then I felt that

970
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 7: I owed it to myself and probably also her, to

971
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 7: go out and explore my sexuality because I didn't want

972
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 7: to wake up one morning and be like, Oh, this

973
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 7: isn't for me anymore. So I kind of just said,

974
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 7: you know, I feel like I have to do this

975
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 7: for myself and explore that.

976
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: So on the island, though we know that you hook

977
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: up with Brook, are you also she is gorgeous?

978
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: Are you also looking at the boys on the island?

979
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 9: Yes?

980
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 7: I went in there very column a column.

981
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: Be kind of because you've got more people.

982
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: Do you have feelings for Brook?

983
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 19: Yeah?

984
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 7: Well, I actually was chatting to her before Paradise and

985
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 7: she was announced the day before I flew out, and

986
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 7: I just remember feeling so nervous and wanting to impress her.

987
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: Because I read that you'd gone, you tried to hook

988
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: up on a date and she.

989
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: Stood you up.

990
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 5: Is that true?

991
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 7: She would say? It's not and that's not the case,

992
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 7: but she she did absolutely.

993
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 8: You know.

994
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 5: You know what I wanted to ask about too, the

995
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 5: amount of times it seemed like you and Richie just

996
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 5: had to play the professional card and hang out together

997
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 5: because we're being followed by paps. That seemed like it

998
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 5: dragged on a little bit and maybe got to a

999
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 5: came to a head the night after the LOGI so

1000
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: remember those photos that came out.

1001
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, so we kind of we were amazing for the

1002
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 7: first few months, and I felt like the bachelor that

1003
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 7: I fell in love with transitioning into reality just he

1004
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 7: wasn't the same guy.

1005
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

1006
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 7: So like I fell in love with the Bachelor Richie Bachelor,

1007
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 7: and then coming into Richie reality, I felt like it

1008
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 7: was a little bit different.

1009
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: He wasn't trying as hard.

1010
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 7: You're like I kind of he would. We'd speak all

1011
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 7: the time on the phone. But I needed more than that,

1012
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 7: you know, I needed to lay out the foundations of

1013
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 7: our relationship. And I barely saw him, and it was

1014
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 7: hard for me to get over there when I had

1015
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 7: my little boy and I couldn't just drop everything to

1016
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 7: do that. And I feel like, oh, there was so

1017
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 7: many elements that came into play, which we do talk about.

1018
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 7: But I think it's when you do go through the

1019
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 7: hard stuff that you can recognize the true feelings that

1020
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 7: you have for each other and if it is worth

1021
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 7: the fight and for me it.

1022
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: Just so you're you've done this experience personal in Paradise.

1023
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy it?

1024
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 7: I loved it. I had a great time. And I

1025
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 7: think I'm most excited for people to see me now

1026
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 7: because I was twenty four when I did The Bachelor. Yeah,

1027
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 7: I'm twenty eight now, so I'm back in a big way.

1028
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 4: If you've grown up, I think grow up things are different.

1029
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 5: So what's it like.

1030
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: When you do Si Richie for the first time.

1031
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 7: Oh, it's kind of like a clock him and it's

1032
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 7: annoying that he's reads out and he looks good.

1033
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: No, imagine that.

1034
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: I imagine that.

1035
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: I'll see him hip and shoulder.

1036
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 4: I love it. We can't wait for this. I can't

1037
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 4: wait for the moment.

1038
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: You cannot wait seven thirty, Channel ten Bachelor in Paradise

1039
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: is But Alex, thanks very very

1040
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 6: Fits in with Hanover