WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 18 September

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Wednesday. So much to get to tonight. They are

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<v Speaker 1>about to cut interest rates in the United States, So

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<v Speaker 1>why are we not thinking about it until maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of next year. I want to talk about veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>and rightly so. Today there was quite an embarrassment when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to the government. But there's a bigger issue

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<v Speaker 1>at play than no one's talking me about. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Meghan Kelly joins us from the United States. First,

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<v Speaker 1>there is not one, but two major political reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>I continue to talk about the Beloo gas plans, which

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<v Speaker 1>were due to begin in the Northern Territory. It employ

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<v Speaker 1>more than six thousand people, there's five hundred trillion cubic

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<v Speaker 1>meters of gas. This would certainly underscore and secure the

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<v Speaker 1>network of renewables that are starting to be pushed around

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<v Speaker 1>the country. But of course, the two reasons why this

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<v Speaker 1>story is one I've talked about is because two seats

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<v Speaker 1>in the Northern Territory may well be up for grabs

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<v Speaker 1>because of Tanya Plebisec. Tania Plibisec has made the ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>decision to further delay a project that's supported by both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of politics in the territory that is supported by

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<v Speaker 1>Indigenous groups and is so advanced that there's literally equipment

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground ready to get on with it today.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's decided because they need those Greens preferences or

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<v Speaker 1>they need to hold onto as many Green seats as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Tenia plibisiqu As I say, has shoved this off into

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<v Speaker 1>yet another inquiry, yet another delay, yet another excuse why

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of jobs in the mining sector may not take place. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>today there was a minerals expo that was in Darwin,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not Tania Plibiseq. We actually saw a politician

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<v Speaker 1>worth cheering for. There was protesters at the front of

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<v Speaker 1>this meeting that took place today in Darwin, and they

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<v Speaker 1>did what all these protesters always do. But unlike many

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<v Speaker 1>politicians who simply ignore them or secretly agree with them,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a new political hero on Austra, on the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian political scene right now, Lea Fanukiara, the Chief Minister,

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<v Speaker 1>the brand new chief Minister, the leader of the cop

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<v Speaker 1>the new Chief Minister in the Northern Territory. Now she

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<v Speaker 1>was channeling politicians of many generations ago. But how good

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<v Speaker 1>that in twenty twenty four. Somebody's got the clarity of

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<v Speaker 1>right and wrong for their part of Australia and the

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<v Speaker 1>future of our country that her response to the idiots

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<v Speaker 1>outside was.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the other key things we will do is

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<v Speaker 3>cease funding of the Environmental Defenders Office following the judgment

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<v Speaker 3>in the Santos Barosa case decision. We've been very clear

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<v Speaker 3>on that, very clear on that, and the activist standing

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<v Speaker 3>out the front, you are wasting your time. Go back

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<v Speaker 3>to Victoria or wherever else you want to cause trouble,

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<v Speaker 3>but you are not welcome here.

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<v Speaker 1>Play of the Day, Star of the Week, number one

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<v Speaker 1>on the charts right now our favorite politician in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Leo for noooki Ao. What a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to make it very clear that what was agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>before an election will happen after an election. That in

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<v Speaker 1>a place like the Northern Territory, mining matters and something

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<v Speaker 1>that has passed every single test over years and years

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<v Speaker 1>and years, that will employ thousands of people and keep

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<v Speaker 1>the lights on is exactly what you should do. So

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that those people do get the message and

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<v Speaker 1>bugger off back to Victoria, where of course the protests

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<v Speaker 1>is on every day because we need a convi whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>go back there. Now. You know I love rugby leading

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<v Speaker 1>my mighty West Tigers. It's been a long time, a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, but still I was alive for the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and five premiership. So I'll have to live with

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<v Speaker 1>that for the read my life. But I do love

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<v Speaker 1>rugby league and there was big news today in rugby

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<v Speaker 1>League that another team will be added to the competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the expectation is that we won from Perth sometime soon,

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<v Speaker 1>but the massive announcement today was a new team will

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<v Speaker 1>come via Papua New Guinea. Now the players will be

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<v Speaker 1>based in far North Queensland. They'll sort of fly in

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<v Speaker 1>fly out. But this is an area that loves rugby league.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean kids in particular absolutely love rugby league and

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<v Speaker 1>every time a star is up there they go nuts

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<v Speaker 1>for them. So the chance for them to see not

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<v Speaker 1>just a sort of home team from Papua New Guinea

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Rugby League, but all of their favorite

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<v Speaker 1>players is just awesome dream come true. I've got no

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<v Speaker 1>problems with this. I also understand that soft diplomacy means

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<v Speaker 1>that in order to keep places like Papua New Guinea

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<v Speaker 1>on our side and not drag towards the financial control

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<v Speaker 1>of places like China. You need to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they have other things to look forward to rather than

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<v Speaker 1>what normally takes place in a place like Papua New Guinea.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a close relationship between our two countries,

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<v Speaker 1>and regardless of who who their prime minister is or

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<v Speaker 1>our prime minister is, it's always hand in glove, as

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<v Speaker 1>it should be. No one can forget the role of

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<v Speaker 1>Puppety Guinea in World War two, and Australia also conversely

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<v Speaker 1>defending Puppety Guinea in World War two. So congratulations to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone involved. It's a great thing for that sport. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing I wanted to mention though, is how it's all

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<v Speaker 1>coming about. Dollars wise, it's going to cost Australian taxpayers

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<v Speaker 1>more than half a trillion, sorry, half a billion, not

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<v Speaker 1>triviion relas half a billion dollars six hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>or sixty million dollars are year, fourteen years. Is how

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<v Speaker 1>much the Australian taxpayer is going to pay to set

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<v Speaker 1>up this club, to build a stadium, to build the infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>Now again I understand what the reasoning behind this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be about soft power in China, but government

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<v Speaker 1>is also about priorities. Now, this government, by its own

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<v Speaker 1>admission via the Intergenerational Report, is expecting next to you

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<v Speaker 1>to be running a budget deficit. For the next twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years. Australia will run a budget deficit, meaning we

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<v Speaker 1>will spend more money than the government will get in income.

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<v Speaker 1>Ironically they get income out of a gas field in

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<v Speaker 1>the Northern Territory. But besides the point, so it's about priorities.

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<v Speaker 1>What you do with that money matters. And while people

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<v Speaker 1>will distract by the China of it all, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of problems here and I'm not entirely sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the taxpayer involvement here wins out the argument about

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<v Speaker 1>a priority for government. You see in Australia, I've told

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<v Speaker 1>you a thousand times, so get ready for one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and one that three point seven million people last year

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<v Speaker 1>suffered from aything called feod insecurity, where literally they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know where their meals were going to come from each

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<v Speaker 1>and every day. And that means that there are food

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<v Speaker 1>lineans in almost every capital city in the country right

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<v Speaker 1>now of literally working Australians as well as working poor

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<v Speaker 1>Australians as well as unemployed poor Australians who are literally

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<v Speaker 1>lining up for the benefit of charities to give them food. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the organizations that do most of this work are certainly

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<v Speaker 1>the most prominent. Of them. Are three courses that I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about regularly and we support on this program, OZ Harvest,

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<v Speaker 1>Second Bite and Food Bank in particular. Well, I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and tried to work out at sixty million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year for this football team, how does that compare

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<v Speaker 1>to the amount of money that these organizations ask for

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<v Speaker 1>as a dream number from the federal government to help

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<v Speaker 1>feed a fellow Australians. It won't surprise you, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>less than sixty million dollars a year. Now. This was

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<v Speaker 1>their budget submission for the previous budget of twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still stands as their position this year. The

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<v Speaker 1>Food relief sector has requested an annual federal government commitment

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<v Speaker 1>of forty five million dollars per annum. That's fifteen million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars less than is going to go for the Papua

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<v Speaker 1>New Guinea football team to be made available for those

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing food insecurity all year round, and for standby funding

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<v Speaker 1>to assist in natural disasters, preparedness and resilience. I repeat,

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<v Speaker 1>forty five million dollars. That was their dream number. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>the football team in Papua New Guinea gets sixty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone honestly believe that the soft power game with

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<v Speaker 1>China is of greater benefit to Australia today than feeding

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<v Speaker 1>the people in Australia who cannot be fed. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course government is always about priority. Right now there's a surplus,

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<v Speaker 1>only ever slightly because of things like the Future Fund

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<v Speaker 1>where magically they're allowed to count that now where previous

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<v Speaker 1>governments haven't, And of course the mining sector which would

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<v Speaker 1>also add to their coffers if they let the gas

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<v Speaker 1>field go ahead. In the Northern Territory, are you paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention voters of Solomon and Lingiari, You may well push

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<v Speaker 1>this government into a minority, and not just a minority,

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<v Speaker 1>but a minority so close there's a chance that they

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<v Speaker 1>may not even be able to form it. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>know people in the Northern Territory are able to hold

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<v Speaker 1>their rage. They did so on the territory government, will

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<v Speaker 1>they do so for the federal government? Certainly in and

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<v Speaker 1>around Ala Springs, they of course abandoned you when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to crime. The Prime Minister spent more time flying

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<v Speaker 1>to and from Ala Springs than in Alice Springs, remember

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<v Speaker 1>before he buged off the tennis for three days. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the priorities of government, and the priority here is

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<v Speaker 1>apparently sixty million dollars our year for the next ten

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<v Speaker 1>years for the football team that yes, will do incredible

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<v Speaker 1>good and I fully support its existence and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>its importance to the sport and its value to the

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<v Speaker 1>kids and the wider community Papua New Guinea. But sixty

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<v Speaker 1>million bucks could be spent here on one area alone

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<v Speaker 1>that I've identified, that being helping the charities that feed Australians.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it's other people's money, do they really care?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course not. This is the mob who spends tens

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of dollars on just one party that Karen

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<v Speaker 1>was throwing as the ambassador in Washington. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>bloke that spent This is the mob that spent twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars flying a bloke to India to play the Digerido.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the mob that have paid four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty million dollars for not one, but two new

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<v Speaker 1>private planes for the Prime minister. Yes, fact checkers ordered

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<v Speaker 1>by the previous government, but not canceled by this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to mention four hundred and fifty million dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>a referendum that are just said hell no to by

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<v Speaker 1>sixty percent. And speaking of government money, well we're here

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<v Speaker 1>are other people's money money. Canon two cares the Hobart

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium that will be the home of the Tazzy Tigers

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<v Speaker 1>when they eventually joined the AFL. Again, we can all

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<v Speaker 1>have our views on this, but let's be very clear.

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<v Speaker 1>The Prime minister he thought this was a way to

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<v Speaker 1>help the Labor Party at the last territory, last state election.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it lost because it was opposed, but then

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<v Speaker 1>backed the stadium. But of course the priorities of government,

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<v Speaker 1>well they were met very directly when this. Protesters said

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<v Speaker 1>what about something else?

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<v Speaker 4>He wouldn't need a stadium. People need a rod on them.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's talk about housing, Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you want to Yeah, I think you've had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's be clear. The people of Tasmania knew of

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<v Speaker 1>this issue, knew of this priority, and they returned. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>the liberal government that is working with the federal gun

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<v Speaker 1>to get this thing to take place. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>expecting them to go back on a decision that was

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<v Speaker 1>hard fought, hard won, and is now going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the law of the land. It's going to happen. So

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<v Speaker 1>why am I talking about it tonight? Because guess what

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of the stadium has gone up since they

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<v Speaker 1>first announced it, gone up since the last election. Well, Dounder,

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC for following the paperwork here an application for

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<v Speaker 1>the building of this thing says that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>cost seven hundred and seventy five million dollars. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>not these seven hundred and fifteen million dollars that they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying just a couple of months ago. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>need to point out the state government we'll still have

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<v Speaker 1>its cap at three hundred and seventy five million, so

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<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't matter if this thing costs eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred billion dollars. In the end, the most taxpayers

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<v Speaker 1>at this stage three hundred and seventy five, federal government

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and forty million dollars afl Oh, jeez on,

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<v Speaker 1>they doing a bit at fifteen million dollars. But don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget the devil in the detail here about the Tazzi

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<v Speaker 1>Devils and when they enter the Australian Football League's competition

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of years time, the taxpayer, just like

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<v Speaker 1>it is in Papua New Guinea, is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>paying for the existence of the club, not just the

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<v Speaker 1>building of the facilities for the club. In fact, again

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the data, let's go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the documents, and again thanks to the ABC for doing

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<v Speaker 1>the hard yards for us here. In terms of ongoing funding,

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<v Speaker 1>the Tasmanian government has promised to provide twelve million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year for the next twelve years at a total

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<v Speaker 1>of one hundred and forty four million dollars. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is a better deal, I suppose than the Papua New

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<v Speaker 1>Guinea thing one hundred and forty four million for twelve

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<v Speaker 1>years as opposed to six hundred million for ten plus

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<v Speaker 1>sixty million dollars or one years worth of federal government money,

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<v Speaker 1>your money for the Papa Guinea team to build a

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<v Speaker 1>high performance complex. Again, priorities election has been fought on

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<v Speaker 1>this election has been one on this. But the state

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<v Speaker 1>of the books in Tasmania is terrible. Saul Leslake, who

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<v Speaker 1>is of course a a person renowned as an economist,

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<v Speaker 1>used to work with the A and Z Bank, used

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<v Speaker 1>to be on all the time TV and radio are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about interest rates. Well, he is an economist who

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<v Speaker 1>is based in Tasmania and he had a little look

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<v Speaker 1>at the financial future of his home state. He now

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<v Speaker 1>says that it's basically a basket case. But that's a

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<v Speaker 1>basket case that's still got enough there for the AFL

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<v Speaker 1>to dip into or for them to offer up to

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<v Speaker 1>the AFL gods the economists saw Leslake, who reasons reporting

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<v Speaker 1>to his home states finances has been largely rejected by

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<v Speaker 1>the government that commissioned it. Said on Thursday said the

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday's budget was in Tasmania's finances apologies or put the

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<v Speaker 1>glasses on now was on track to be the worst

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<v Speaker 1>of any state or territory. It didn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>that way, but it is the deterioration of Tasmania's public

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<v Speaker 1>finances since the mid twenty tens, so that's both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of politics. Has been entirely attributable to government decisions about

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<v Speaker 1>increasing spending without any consideration given as to how that

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<v Speaker 1>spending would be paid for. For example, football stadium and

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<v Speaker 1>team to play in football stadium, but that race is

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<v Speaker 1>one and lost when it comes to housing. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to this here because big news will happen, most likely

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States in the next twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>As we know, everything is about interest rates here because

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the thirteenth interest rate rise under the Albaneze government

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<v Speaker 1>will be the one Australians won't cop. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>the tip they didn't cop the twelfth, the eleventh, and

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<v Speaker 1>tenth or the ninth. As you know, majority of Australians

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<v Speaker 1>blame the federal government for matters to do with inflation,

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<v Speaker 1>not as they would like to try to pretend, Reserve Bank,

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<v Speaker 1>Reserve Bank, Reserve Bank. But interestingly here, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are well some hope of an interest rate cut

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<v Speaker 1>eventually kicking in here in Australia. But as Michelle Bullock

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<v Speaker 1>told us as late as this month, don't express so.

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<v Speaker 7>The board's message following its meeting only a few weeks

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<v Speaker 7>ago was that it's premature to be thinking about rape cuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's not planning on that cut happening any time soon.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, she says that if we start cutting interest

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<v Speaker 1>rates too quickly, we're going to start to head into

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<v Speaker 1>a recession our different. Stephen Conroy disagrees in know that,

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<v Speaker 1>will say so again a little bit later tonight. Meantimes,

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<v Speaker 1>she has turned around and said that any conversation about

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<v Speaker 1>interestrates being cut in Australia would be quote unquote premature. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>right now there is a conversation, of course about to

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<v Speaker 1>take place in the United States, and I'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>that in a second. But when it comes to homes

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<v Speaker 1>right now and the interest rates that are as high

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<v Speaker 1>as they currently are, and people blame the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>for it not. The Reserve Bank mortgage defaults are the

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<v Speaker 1>highest that they have been since the pandemic. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it is expected to go higher than when the borders

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<v Speaker 1>were shut and people weren't able to go to work

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<v Speaker 1>and house prices of course started to go through the roof.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of Aussies late on home loan repayments by

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<v Speaker 1>more than a month will shortly beat the pandemic peak.

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<v Speaker 1>High interest rates and stick inflation are continuing to put

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<v Speaker 1>financial stress on the households. The credit ratings agency Moody's

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<v Speaker 1>has said particular problems exist for the self employed, low

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<v Speaker 1>income people, and anyone with high loan valuation ratio mortgages.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, he's a little chart to show you. The

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<v Speaker 1>one on the left is the peak of the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>The one now is what we are living right the second.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I mentioned a couple of times, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a big decision coming from the United States where tonight

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<v Speaker 1>their time, our time, you get anyway, next wenting four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>the United States will probably cut interest rates. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>chance it could be not by half, not by a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of a present, but by half of a percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll the tape on the finance people in the US.

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<v Speaker 8>When the Bella Reserve meets this week, officials are expected

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<v Speaker 8>to mark the end of an era as they cut

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<v Speaker 8>interest rates for the first time and four years and

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<v Speaker 8>chart a course lower for rates over the next two years.

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<v Speaker 1>So why are interest rates coming down in America? But

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<v Speaker 1>they're not coming down? And here because don't we apparently

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<v Speaker 1>have the best economy in the world. We'll debate it,

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<v Speaker 1>Seving Conroy Broman Bishop here in the man Cave and

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<v Speaker 1>in Melbourne in a moment or two time meantime, on

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<v Speaker 1>the subject of cost of living. Some frightening stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>cafes and smaller restaurants that we're hearing about today is

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<v Speaker 1>that business payment defaults are narrator record high, and hospitality

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that is currently in a world of pain. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are somebody who was obsessed with the daily

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<v Speaker 1>coffee or twice daily or three times daily, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>how much stress there is in your life. According to

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<v Speaker 1>Corey mart the day hospitality operators say that coffee is

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<v Speaker 1>about hit seven dollars a cup. Oh but everything's great

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<v Speaker 1>under Ralbow, isn't it. Remember he was the one who

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<v Speaker 1>was promising to make it all better if you've voted

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<v Speaker 1>for him a couple of years ago. As if people

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<v Speaker 1>won't remember this whenever they hold the election. Another one

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about here is I'll mate Toorney Burke. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to being the Arts Minister of Australia, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the Home Affairs Ministe. Of course, you remember he was

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<v Speaker 1>the one. He was brought in after clueless Clare O'Neil

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<v Speaker 1>and that idiot Andrew Giles stuffed up everything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the borders, especially the people who had been released

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<v Speaker 1>by the High Court after the indefinite detention decision. Well, interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>there's another mess he's going to have to clean up here,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was not of his own making, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly one that his government has stood by. The Australian

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper To Day excellently reports on how Labour fueled security

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<v Speaker 1>fears by scrapping Immigration Direction sixty three. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Labour has quietly scrapped a ministerial direction ordering the deportation

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<v Speaker 1>of bridging visa holders who were charged with an offense

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<v Speaker 1>or placed under investigation promptly in the Coalition to escalate

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<v Speaker 1>its attack on Anthony Aberdez's record on national security. The

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<v Speaker 1>decision was made in January by the previous idiot Immigration Minister.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't worry, the Arts Minister will fix it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>James Patterson is the potential Home Affairs Minister in a

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton government and he smells a rap.

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<v Speaker 9>Just highlights while they should never have been given tourist

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<v Speaker 9>visas in the first place. If they are genuine refugees

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<v Speaker 9>and asylum seekers, they should have been assessed for that

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<v Speaker 9>visa and carefully checked on security grounds before they are

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<v Speaker 9>given visas and before they brought into our country. But

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<v Speaker 9>under the Albaneza government we've had a rushed and risky

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<v Speaker 9>process and I fear that the national security of our

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<v Speaker 9>country is at stake has a result.

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<v Speaker 1>Also in Camper today, the big story was the other

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<v Speaker 1>shoe to drop after the Veterans' Royal Commission, the Veterans

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<v Speaker 1>Affairs Suicide Royal Commission. The media more well and truly

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<v Speaker 1>across this one. The federal government has been forced to

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<v Speaker 1>publicly release a bombshell report that calls for a drastic

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<v Speaker 1>overhaul of the nation's military justice system.

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<v Speaker 9>A report the government kept secret is out.

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<v Speaker 1>How this was leaked well a conversation and of itself,

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<v Speaker 1>which means we'll have an inquiry into how an inquiry

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<v Speaker 1>released the report of an inquiry that we weren't supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to see because the inquiry was only for government. Unsurprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Lamby is going offload the tubob watch.

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<v Speaker 10>You wonder why there's so many cover ups, You wonder

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<v Speaker 10>why we've been a Royal commission for three years. But

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<v Speaker 10>the contempt of what happened yesterday, knowing that we're onto

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<v Speaker 10>this document and then removing that from the website is

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<v Speaker 10>one of the most awful things I have seen come

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<v Speaker 10>from this government. It is absolutely disgusting. There was no

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<v Speaker 10>reason to sit on this. There was no reason to

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<v Speaker 10>sit on this, and quite Frankly, I think the Defense

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<v Speaker 10>Minister has them explaining today, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep voting with the government and I'll take their

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<v Speaker 1>preferences in the lead up to the next election. The

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<v Speaker 1>actual scandal today isn't necessarily what was reported, although that

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<v Speaker 1>is terrible, no question right, It's let's go back a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when we went through chapter and verse the key

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<v Speaker 1>recommendations of that Royal Commission into veterans suicide. It had

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<v Speaker 1>been taking place for three years. Everyone said it was urgent,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone said it was important. Everyone says they respect the soldiers.

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<v Speaker 6>I pay tribute to all those who've endured a difficult

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<v Speaker 6>day to day in order to make tomorrow better for

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<v Speaker 6>those veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>But a week on from that report being released publicly,

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<v Speaker 1>the government has promised to implement none of it, Not

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<v Speaker 1>one recommendation they have said that they will implement as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of the Royal Commission. Now, sure they may

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to say all one hundred and something

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<v Speaker 1>of them can be implemented today, but surely the government

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<v Speaker 1>a week on from reading this report would agree with

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<v Speaker 1>recommendation for the Defense should take steps to mitigate adverse

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<v Speaker 1>impacts of the posting cycle on members and their families.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Recommendation seven that increases employment opportunities for members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Defense Force who can't be deployed inside the Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Force to work in other areas of the Defense Force.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Recommendation twelve still a week on, nothing to consider

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<v Speaker 1>the emotional intelligence as a performance of people who get

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<v Speaker 1>promoted in the Australian Defense Force. No response. Yes, today,

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<v Speaker 1>the leaking of this stuff was appalling, but equally appalling

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<v Speaker 1>is a week on none of the recommendations are being

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<v Speaker 1>accepted by government. What about Recommendation nineteen to protect victims

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<v Speaker 1>of sexual misconduct from any sort of career disadvantage if

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<v Speaker 1>they report something, they could say they were implementing that

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<v Speaker 1>last week. They still haven't said it. And Recommendation forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight again one of one hundred and something here. They

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<v Speaker 1>could all and in my view all should be implemented,

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<v Speaker 1>but the government is stone cold silent. Recommendation forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>that when a member of the Defense Force dies by

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<v Speaker 1>suicide you appoint a legal officer to represent the interests

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<v Speaker 1>of the decease of the deceased and support the next

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<v Speaker 1>of kin. I eat someone who is paid for to

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<v Speaker 1>help navigate through the process. Yes, the leaking of documents

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<v Speaker 1>is terrible. I'm not pretending it is not a serious issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we're going to call press conferences, why not

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<v Speaker 1>call press conferences and say what is their response to

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<v Speaker 1>the report? You've had a week? What things are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What things are you ruling out? And where is the

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<v Speaker 1>media who led their news with this report last week

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<v Speaker 1>and the follow up? Instead? Nothing move on now. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>last week in the AFL there was the welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>country ceremony that seemed to annoy one or two people,

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly no one who was doing inside the ground. But

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<v Speaker 1>still you remember this bloke where we went from forty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand to sixty five thousand to how many years of

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<v Speaker 1>continuous contact with the land.

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<v Speaker 11>It's a ceremony we've been doing for two hundred and

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<v Speaker 11>fifty thousand years plus BC and the BC stands for before.

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<v Speaker 1>Well Paul and Hansen jumped up in the Parliament and

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't miss.

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<v Speaker 7>Have they not to cater to white people? Then why

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<v Speaker 7>are white people constantly subjected to them? These welcomes are

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<v Speaker 7>based on wise that Australia is not our home. So

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<v Speaker 7>many people tell me they are just over it. Welcome

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<v Speaker 7>to country, are just radical racial antagonism disguised as reconciliation

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<v Speaker 7>imposed on children before they even get to school, and

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<v Speaker 7>in school, placing the hands on the ground is indoctrination.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you may have seen that, you've certainly heard interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with Pauline about it. But what about the back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth was happening between Lydia Thorpe, who had to remind

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<v Speaker 1>us that she was still here, and Alexandik who was

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<v Speaker 1>telling her police Enough.

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<v Speaker 9>Many viewers, who in principle wouldn't have had a problem

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<v Speaker 9>with these practices are getting.

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<v Speaker 12>As fed up ANTICI seat, it's a a thought to

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<v Speaker 12>the port of order.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I just want to interrupt this speech. Seriously, Can

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<v Speaker 1>we just two minutes?

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<v Speaker 4>Wope, sports matches, council.

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<v Speaker 12>Antics and visor seat colleagues. We're only asking to listen

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<v Speaker 12>in peace and quiet for two minutes, that's all. It's

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<v Speaker 12>not a big ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we just do that?

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<v Speaker 12>Why the galleys full of people watching the behavior here

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<v Speaker 12>is quite childish?

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<v Speaker 1>Order. Now, I told you last time that double dissolution

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<v Speaker 1>election won't be taking place because, apart from anything else,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll improve the number of people that are on the

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<v Speaker 1>back bench and the Senate cross bench, but it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a way of ending her term early, that being

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<v Speaker 1>Lydia Thorpe. Yeah, bring it on minority government and no

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<v Speaker 1>Thorpe in the Senate. Now, I wasn't going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about American politics tonight to give you a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of relief, But there is a small amount of news

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<v Speaker 1>that I have to show you, which is there has

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<v Speaker 1>been a change in whom is now considered to be

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<v Speaker 1>leading the race. According to five thirty eight, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the prediction models. They have been hot on Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, but now they say that she's sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two out of one hundred times more likely to be

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<v Speaker 1>the president than Trump at thirty eight times out of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred. Nate still still says Trump just but the bookies, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they too are starting to back in Harris.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought it was important today to show you

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<v Speaker 1>if all of this is correct, the leader of the

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<v Speaker 1>free world speaking from her heart like a normal robot.

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<v Speaker 13>When you are bestowed with a microphone that is that big,

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<v Speaker 13>there is a profound responsibility that comes with that. That

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<v Speaker 13>is an extension of what should not be lost in

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<v Speaker 13>this moment, this concept of the public trust.

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<v Speaker 1>To then.

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<v Speaker 13>Understand what the public trust means. It means that you

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<v Speaker 13>have been invested with trust to be responsible in the

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<v Speaker 13>where you use your word. It's much less how you

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<v Speaker 13>conduct yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy that for the next four years. I much prefer this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna chuge him.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm telling you right now, I'm putting a two hundred

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<v Speaker 11>percent tariff on which means they're unsellable. Unsellable in the

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<v Speaker 11>United States. And then you wonder why he gets shut at, right,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, only consequential presidents gets shot at.

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff. Plenty more to talk about here tonight, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to it straight away. Meghan Kelly is our special guest,

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<v Speaker 1>Proble Bishop Steve Conroy, and so much to get to

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<v Speaker 1>between now and then. Thanks for watching. Enjoy the groove.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a perfect place to sit on the couch. Were

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<v Speaker 1>here all night. Thank you very much for watching wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you happen to be, always here to help with Stephen Conray.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's just here to help all right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to his soul. It's on his business card. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course the carry over champions always on Wednesday night it's

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<v Speaker 1>none other than Proble a bishop. Can you help me

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<v Speaker 1>out here? Next twenty four hours interest rate's going to

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<v Speaker 1>fall in the United States? Why do they fall there?

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<v Speaker 1>But we're not going to have anything until maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of next year.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, a couple of reasons. We didn't put out up

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<v Speaker 14>as high as they did, and we've did it over

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<v Speaker 14>a lengthier time. But also you have to realize that

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<v Speaker 14>our mortgage situation is different. We don't count mortgage repayments

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<v Speaker 14>in the CPI, right, but we do count rent. But

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<v Speaker 14>most of our people here are on variable interest rates,

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<v Speaker 14>and the people who are on fixed interest rates, it's

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<v Speaker 14>only for a short term then they get to go

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<v Speaker 14>on to variable rates. So there is always a versus

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<v Speaker 14>America where they're on long term fixed rates. So it

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<v Speaker 14>really does make a difference to how it impacts on

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<v Speaker 14>one third of the population, and that also impinges on

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<v Speaker 14>the renters because the cost of housing and mortgages that

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<v Speaker 14>is then rented out feeds.

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<v Speaker 4>Into that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen, is it also fair to say the inflation rate

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<v Speaker 1>is lower and their growth rate is higher than we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So why is America about to see half a point

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<v Speaker 1>come off? But we're being told if that happens, there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a recession. Why wouldn't there be one? In America.

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<v Speaker 15>Look, it is mindless.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm actually in shock that you could make

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<v Speaker 2>such a ridiculous statement. The only thing currently stopping the

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<v Speaker 2>country being in recession is government spending into the economy.

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<v Speaker 15>Is racial statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Interest rates, Well, it's just an economic fact. I thought

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>we talked about this last week. C plus I plus

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<v Speaker 2>GG equals government. It's actually part of GDP. But to

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<v Speaker 2>the core point, you know, Michelle Bullock told us twelve

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, the problem is a wage price spiral.

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<v Speaker 15>It didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it was we're having too many haircuts and the

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<v Speaker 2>price of a haircuts.

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<v Speaker 15>Going up, which is, you know, just so absurd, it's embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>And now she's trying to say, if well it interestrates,

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<v Speaker 2>it would cause a recession.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean fair and income.

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<v Speaker 2>They cannot keep their line straight from week to week

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<v Speaker 2>because still and the.

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<v Speaker 15>Reserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I've been arguing this, brom and Paul will tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been saying the Reserve Bank got it wrong last year.

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<v Speaker 2>They went too late, they put them up too far,

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<v Speaker 2>and now they won't lower them, and they've driven the

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<v Speaker 2>economy to the verge of a recession.

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<v Speaker 1>Government Almost as long as I've been on about too little,

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<v Speaker 1>too late tax cuts.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, but I mean Steven's actually more aggressive in his

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<v Speaker 14>dealing with the issue than mister Chalmers. The snake charmer.

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<v Speaker 15>It's all illusion, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I've been I've been doing it when was there,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what doing since still was there is Stephen.

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<v Speaker 14>The longer the short of it is, if you get

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<v Speaker 14>to pick between the snake charmer and the chair and

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<v Speaker 14>the head of the Reserve Bank, I know most people

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<v Speaker 14>will go with the head of the Reserve Bank, and

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<v Speaker 14>they will put the blame where it belongs on the

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<v Speaker 14>snake charmer who gets up there and says, I've done

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<v Speaker 14>a wonderful job. I've given you two surpluses, but I'm

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<v Speaker 14>giving you twenty five years worth of deficits coming along afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're counting in.

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<v Speaker 15>Fantasy of your last government.

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<v Speaker 2>No Peti Gastello and John Howard want when they call

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<v Speaker 2>for government to stop spending if they want the economy

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<v Speaker 2>in a recession, so they can quickly flip to say

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<v Speaker 2>no recession, non slabs.

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<v Speaker 5>Try to exactly try and and Costello friend what we've

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<v Speaker 5>got because the joke they tout out they well want

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<v Speaker 5>to enjoy the debate they want the country like you do, Bromwin,

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<v Speaker 5>for the government to stop spending and the economy to

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<v Speaker 5>go into recession.

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<v Speaker 10>So you can run.

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<v Speaker 14>So you've put us the government to stop spending something

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<v Speaker 14>about then we can have then we can.

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<v Speaker 15>Have economy goes into So I'm talking about coincidence.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, when we are talking about government spending,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about sport.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course Australians love their sport all the rest of it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a big industry. Right today we learn half

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<v Speaker 1>a billion dollars over teenage soft diplomacy Papa New Guinea,

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and seventy five million dollars for the Tasmanian Stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet to gar the debate about what stadium and

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<v Speaker 1>how much should be in and around Brisbane for the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Games. So rather than any of those three to

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<v Speaker 1>get into, let's step back government money, taxpayer money and sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen again, I understand why sporting organizations ask for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem an organization asking for it because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone asks for it. It's about what you allocate, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry again I talk about priorities and I

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<v Speaker 1>just think and I know that you can do this

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<v Speaker 1>with any area of government spending. But when you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a scenario where literally the annual payments for one of

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<v Speaker 1>these things is going to be higher than the entire

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<v Speaker 1>ask of the food charity sectors, when we've got our

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<v Speaker 1>problems here, then it feels like a priority is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about Olympics. Let's talk about the tazzy

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<v Speaker 1>stadium as well. Is there a limit to what people

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<v Speaker 1>will cop when it comes to their money and sport?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Paul As, I think you do know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do have a slight conflict of interest which I have

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>to declare before this conversation. I'm the chairman. I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>chair of the Australian Professional Leagues, the A League. So

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<v Speaker 2>the men and the women, you can't spend enough. While

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<v Speaker 2>I so we're not recipients of very much money from

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<v Speaker 2>the federal or state governments. But I mean, you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to take your hat off to Gilmo Gooughlin the IFL.

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 2>They have absolutely hoodwinked the Tasmanian government. They've put all

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 2>risk on this venture onto the state and federal governments.

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 2>And Peter Velandi's you again, You've got to take your

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<v Speaker 2>hat off. And because he has I know that, but

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 2>he has absolutely taken the government to the cleaners on

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<v Speaker 2>this one.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to to the to the footy team in

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<v Speaker 1>pop in New Guinea. Do you think that they'd say

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<v Speaker 1>the left is going to go particularly nuts about it now?

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<v Speaker 15>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a general understanding that there's a very

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<v Speaker 2>big game at play in the Pacific region where China

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<v Speaker 2>are buying, bribing, cajoling threatening a whole range of Pacific

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<v Speaker 2>island nations.

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<v Speaker 15>Australia is their natural ally and Australia has.

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<v Speaker 1>To use all of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Weapons at its disposal to try and block, blunt and

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<v Speaker 2>stave off China's attempts to buy, bribe, cojole their way

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<v Speaker 2>into the region. It's in our national interest, it's security interest,

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 2>it's in our trade interests, it's in being able.

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<v Speaker 15>To get our goods on and off shore. We're an island.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to be able to protect our trade routes

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 2>and Chinese bases like they're talking about in the Solomon Islands.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been suggesting that they might want to build on

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and pap in New Guinea. So these are the sorts

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 2>of things you have to the soft the soft power

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 2>arguments I think has more cogency than some of the criticism.

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 2>So while I think Peter Flanders has absolutely mugged the

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>government on this one because he gets to add another

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 2>team in Perth and then he gets to have a

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 2>bigger TV deal and the World Worlds is frozy.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime give football, anytime they want to give you a

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 2>few crumbs off the table, the football is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a good days.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm sure I'm going to be helping soon in some conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's this here to help? Is this here to help?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So we're seeing saying in Queensland right the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics coming up twenty thirty two, there is a need

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>for greater facilities. I personally think athletics in Karara, you've

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 1>already got a pretty good stadium there. Swimming can take

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<v Speaker 1>place as I think one of the plans may be

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>at the old Lane Park, because as we saw in

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the French Games and in the LA Games, that stadiums

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>are actually where the Olympic swimming is going to be.

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not you don't have to build a thirty thousand

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>seat venue for swimming. So there's there's ways around this.

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>But the public can be sort of both sides on

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>this right, which is, you know, too much support is

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 1>never enough, as we actually would say, which means too

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>much money is never enough. And then once you start

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>to see the numbers and again in and around that

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Tasmania situation in particular, it does rock some people.

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<v Speaker 14>Well. The Tasmanian situation I think is the worst of

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 14>the three.

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<v Speaker 4>With regard to.

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<v Speaker 14>Queensland, I think the older seeing that that Olympic Games

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<v Speaker 14>and other the Commonwealth Games can be done on a

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 14>much smaller budget. But when it comes to Papua New Guinea,

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<v Speaker 14>I began first went to Papua New Guinea in nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 14>I formed good friendships there. I remain friends with Michael

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 14>Samari for many years. I have enormous regard for the

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 14>people of Pupa New Guinea. You can walk literally at

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 14>low tide from a small island at the north of

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 14>Cape York across to Papua New Guinea. People who are

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 14>Torres Strait Islanders in Australia, their cousins are as across

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<v Speaker 14>the way. So it's a very it's a very close relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So does the soft power thing make sense, Yes, it does.

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<v Speaker 14>It makes an enormous amount of sense to me, because

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<v Speaker 14>they love rugby league, they watch us, they watch our television,

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<v Speaker 14>they send their kids to school here. They're very close

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<v Speaker 14>to us. And yes, I do think now whether or

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<v Speaker 14>not six hundred million was littly as you said, he

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<v Speaker 14>was taken to the cleaners and took the government to

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<v Speaker 14>the cleaners.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's give me trouble.

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<v Speaker 14>But the long and the short of it is, I

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<v Speaker 14>do think the soft power argument is important and it's

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<v Speaker 14>a very important.

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<v Speaker 4>Nation to us.

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<v Speaker 15>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit of back and forth in the past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days, and I've got to say that I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>it on Monday Tuesday. Let me do another version of

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<v Speaker 1>it here. The analysis of an opinion poll in the

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Financial Review I thought was a little too generous to

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<v Speaker 1>the opposition, suggesting that both sides could end up forming

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<v Speaker 1>minority government. Yes, there was a few teals here and

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<v Speaker 1>a bit in westerns Indy there, and a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>here and a little bit there. But one of the

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<v Speaker 1>key things for all that to happen is a significant

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<v Speaker 1>number of seats to flip in Victoria. Now, part of

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the theory behind this Dunton could almost get there and

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<v Speaker 1>be level pegging either in the high sixties or the

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<v Speaker 1>low seventies with Labor again, is that apparently dissatisfaction with

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<v Speaker 1>the state government would bleed into the federal political sphere,

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<v Speaker 1>which would mean that the Victoria Liberal Party would outperform

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<v Speaker 1>clearly the behavior of their own state leader at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>as we all know, that is bizarre to watch. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you this year, Stephen as a man who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell me no chance will win every seat

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<v Speaker 1>plus fifteen more if the expectation is there's half a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen to be one in four to half a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>to be one in Victoria. Who's pulling whose leg? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think that while Labor obviously we won the

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<v Speaker 2>asked and bi election, that is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>very tough seat to hold in a general election. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Peter Dutton and the Victorian Liberals, who are at

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute low point and we run a brilliant campaign,

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:49.240
<v Speaker 2>fantastic candidate and we took the seat in an incredible historical.

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<v Speaker 1>Win, will be tough to hold.

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<v Speaker 15>There's a couple of other seats that the Liberals keep.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about, like McEwen and I genuinely scratch my head,

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<v Speaker 2>got a great local member up there who's been through

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the wars, he's won, he's lost by twelve votes, went

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<v Speaker 2>to the High Court, like he knows how to fight

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 2>a marginal seat campaign. So I would not be as

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<v Speaker 2>optimistic as the Libs are. I think, you know the

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<v Speaker 2>Libers are under pressure in a couple of seats there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean you just got to say, look, let's

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<v Speaker 2>say we lost two in Victoria. Yeah, I'm just randomly

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<v Speaker 2>picking a number. You could lose two in Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got no pressure, as you've described on a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of seats in the Northern Territory. We've just gone from

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<v Speaker 2>seventy eight to seventy two if we were to lose those.

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<v Speaker 2>And I haven't talked about New South Wales where there's

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<v Speaker 2>been a mayhem being caused in the western suburban seats

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<v Speaker 2>by the Muslim matters votes and their campaigns and hangers on.

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<v Speaker 1>You could get to see.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would look, it could be almost labor don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm just that's the word.

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<v Speaker 15>That's the worst case, barring a route, barring a route.

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<v Speaker 5>So there it goes.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think four or five do it?

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<v Speaker 15>Four or five or six? In Victoria's a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what I'm saying four, five or six in victoriaste.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that's the other way of looking at all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. I got thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 14>Well there are clearly Victoria is finally working up to

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<v Speaker 14>the fact that the Labor Party has not served them well.

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<v Speaker 14>And basically that means there are seats up for grabbing Victoria.

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<v Speaker 14>But there are seats for grabs in New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 14>certainly are in Western Australia. There's boothby in South Australia

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<v Speaker 14>is Tasmania as.

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<v Speaker 15>Long as you can remember to nominate, nominate your candidates.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, that's why we got rid of Don Harwin thinks correct.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Thank you guys, do appreciate everyone's here to help.

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps not the host of times, but everyone is here

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to help and that's what we love. Thank you Broman,

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Steven. Meghan Kelly next, the best in the business.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other side of it, What a week in

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the United States as we get closer to the election,

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 1>but the second time we have to talk about someone

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to kill Donald Trump. Megan Kelly is the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the business. The only place you'll see her in

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Australia is on this show, which is the greatest honor

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>of our broadcasting time. Lovely to see a rockstar.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you great to be back with your Paul? Unbelievable?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>What a news circle like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fact that there are people that are still referring to

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<v Speaker 1>it as alleged attempted the downplay the downplay. Right. The

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<v Speaker 1>only reason Donald Trump is still alive is because one

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>person saw something rustle. And by the way, even when

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.720
<v Speaker 1>they shot at them, didn't kill the gunman.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, exactly right, And they're referring to it as

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<v Speaker 4>the incident.

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<v Speaker 16>If you check the papers today, many I mean, I

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<v Speaker 16>have to tell you, I think so far almost all

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 16>are laming this on him. It's too close to the election,

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 16>so they can't just get honest about the danger to

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 16>his life and their role in causing it.

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 4>It's his fault.

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 16>He brought this on himself with his own incendiary rhetoric.

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 16>It's not what they say about him, that he's Hitler esque,

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 16>that he's a threat to democracy. They can't make the

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 16>argument that he's not a great candidate. We don't like him,

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 16>we didn't think he did a good job. Those are

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.720
<v Speaker 16>all fair things to say. If you don't like Donald Trump,

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 16>they always have to take it too. And eleven, he's

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 16>a threat. He must be terminated.

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 4>We have to end him.

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 16>There was somebody on saying he needs a bullet to

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<v Speaker 16>stop him. I mean, truly, this is beyond the pale,

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 16>and it can indeed have the effect of motivating psychos

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 16>like this guy. Now, normally this is a left making

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 16>this argument that some random comment about some random thing

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.399
<v Speaker 16>cause some mass shooting, and we on the writer saying

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 16>that's not true, trying to tie blanket policy statements into the.

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<v Speaker 4>Mind of a madman. This guy does not seem like

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 4>a madman.

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<v Speaker 16>He seems a little wacky, seems a little out there,

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 16>but he doesn't seem to have that sort of schizophrenic

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 16>trigger that we see in these twenty two year old

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 16>young men who unleash carnage on schools and grocery stores

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 16>and so on. This guy's rhetoric is directly in line

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 16>with the messages we've been hearing from Joe Biden, from

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 16>Kamala Harris, from top Democrats about how Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 16>a threat to democracy, and he'd been identified as a

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 16>threat over and over and over again by American citizens

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 16>speaking with random customs and border patrol officials and others

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 16>within the State Department for the past couple of years

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 16>under the Biden administration as a potentially violent man, as

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 16>the most dangerous man many of them had encountered as

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 16>he tried to amass troops to go help fight in

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 16>Ukraine and appears to have not been on their radar

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 16>at all. And then you get to what happened down

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 16>at mar Alago, well steps from mar Alago, which is

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 16>Trump International golf Course where he went.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Secret Service now ahead of this.

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<v Speaker 16>Thing, now after the other lady got forced out, is

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.439
<v Speaker 16>trying to take a victory laugh today saying, oh, my guys,

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 16>they found the shooter. You know one of my guys

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 16>saw the ship. Yes, okay, to his credit. Good for

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.879
<v Speaker 16>that guy who was guarding the perimeter. They say there

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.760
<v Speaker 16>was somebody. They claim that there was somebody on perimeter patrol.

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 16>How did he miss the shooter who according to the

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<v Speaker 16>FBIFI davit in support of the charges that have been

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 16>brought so in wait for twelve hours. He showed up

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 16>there at two in the morning. He got caught at

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 16>one thirty pm. He'd been there. If they had somebody

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 16>at the perimeter, it wasn't. Somebody was very good. And

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 16>what we heard from the local sheriff is Trump still

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.280
<v Speaker 16>doesn't have the same resources as a sitting president.

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 4>I realize he's not sitting president, but has.

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<v Speaker 16>The sitting president had a near death experience within the

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 16>last two months where he got shot in the head.

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<v Speaker 4>He hasn't.

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<v Speaker 16>It's time to amp it up and take this seriously.

0:46:56.160 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 16>And the reason they won't is because at best they

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:04.839
<v Speaker 16>don't care if Donald Trump gets hurt, and realistically, many

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 16>of these Democrats want him.

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 4>They want him to get hurt.

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm not stupid enough to ask you the same

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:13.320
<v Speaker 1>question that no doubt you receive seven to nine times

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>via text message every day, which is who's going to win?

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Who's going to win? But let's just do a little

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 1>temperature check on what's happening here. The post debate poles,

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, better for Harris. There are some A grade

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>poles that are good for Trump. However, one thing that

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>can't be spun, which is that she is not doing

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>as well as Biden did, and Biden of course only

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.399
<v Speaker 1>one just in the states that matter. What's your sense

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>of the race this far out, not the result, but

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 1>your sense of the race about just how neck and

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>neck or we are starting to see post debate a

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>preference of merge.

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<v Speaker 16>I think the numbers favor Trump, but the get out

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:55.800
<v Speaker 16>the vote effort favors Harris.

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

0:47:56.840 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 16>The Republican's ground game is weak. It is compared to

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.840
<v Speaker 16>the Democrats. It's just nowhere near in the same region.

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 16>Right now, we don't exactly know what it is. The

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 16>RNC has basically offloaded it to Turning Point USA. That's

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 16>Charlie Kirk's organization. Charlie's amazing. He's a savant, but he's young.

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 16>I think he's thirty if that, and this is not

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 16>really what he does for a living. He's doing all

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:25.319
<v Speaker 16>he can. He's mobilizing young people. But who's running this thing?

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 16>Where is the overhaul on how they went wrong four

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 16>years ago? Trump has been saying to be suspicious of

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 16>mail in voting. My god, that's how you win elections.

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 16>You bank all your vote in advance, so that if

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 16>it's really rainy that day or the kid is sick

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:44.800
<v Speaker 16>that day, your voters still have a vote in the

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 16>ballot box. The Republicans haven't learned that lesson, and I'm

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:52.800
<v Speaker 16>very worried about that. I just think Trump's going to

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 16>have to win by a lot in order to get

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 16>over that advantage on election Day, and well I think

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 16>Trump is on t back to win. It's not by

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 16>a lot, So unless that changes between now and November,

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:08.439
<v Speaker 16>it's going to be a nail bier and we'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole way. Thank you, Megan, the MC and Kelly

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 1>show serious excema on YouTube, but most importantly with us

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 1>each and every week. Thank you Rockstar.

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<v Speaker 4>Great to see your Paul