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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the heart of it. We are

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Speaker 1: recording from gaddigal Land. Hey, sweetheart, how are you?

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Speaker 2: How am I? I'm good, Philip. Feel a little out

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Speaker 2: of practice, so I'm enjoying being back in the studio

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Speaker 2: again after being away. You and mis Kath Mahoney tore

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Speaker 2: it up last week.

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Speaker 1: Oh we had a lovely chat. Yeah, well you were

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Speaker 1: swimming with manta rays in Fiji, Paul Bastard.

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Speaker 2: It's probably poor wife with me having to go. You

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Speaker 2: know what I did today, This is what I got

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Speaker 2: to do today.

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Speaker 1: Yet again, really very different lives.

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Speaker 2: They're getting closer, they're getting closer. Yeah, well, look, well

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Speaker 2: how about the victory. How about the victory this week

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Speaker 2: that we're picking up our caravan properly.

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Speaker 1: That's exciting. We are excited.

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Speaker 2: Our Jaco that has been waiting for us is now ready, yes,

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Speaker 2: and we're picking it up. So I am not going

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Speaker 2: Jay Cooing without you.

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Speaker 1: No, you're not allowed to, and that's part of the contract.

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Speaker 2: And you to thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it's going to be hard not

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Speaker 1: to go somewhere. We have to wait a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's the only hard thing about that. A little bit

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Speaker 1: but we'll spend weekends just having cups.

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Speaker 2: Of tea in it for a bit and getting to

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Speaker 2: know it. Yes, because yeah, this is our first time

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Speaker 2: as as caravan people. Look, I know people are going, oh,

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Speaker 2: you guys are going to be gray nomads. Well, one

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Speaker 2: of us is a gray nomad. One of us is

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Speaker 2: what would I say, an intrepid traveler. It was not

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Speaker 2: very not very brave.

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Speaker 1: One of us is a menopausal nomad.

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Speaker 2: And not a gray hair in your head.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple, really, there's a couple. They're hard to

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Speaker 1: find amongst it all.

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Speaker 2: But no color, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Runs in the families. You know, my dad is still

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Speaker 1: not gray and he's ninety one.

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Speaker 2: I was marveling at that. On the weekend. We had

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Speaker 2: coffee with our's dad on the weekend and he's sitting

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Speaker 2: there and he's ninety one years old. He's just walked

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Speaker 2: about a k and a half to get to us.

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Speaker 2: Not a gray hair on his head.

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Speaker 1: No, well, he's salt and pepper now, but he's not

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Speaker 1: proper gray.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm great than he is.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've been great than here for years.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well these two are not gray, these two.

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Speaker 2: So we spoke with Jane Torvel and Christopher Dean last

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Speaker 2: year when they were in the country promoting their last

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Speaker 2: dance Australia tour. Well, they're here now, Yes, it's happening.

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Speaker 2: It's happening. It is, so we thought, why not let's

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Speaker 2: replay that chat.

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Speaker 1: It was such a good chat. They were so lovely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so lovely because they were so open about their

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Speaker 2: career highlights, their gold medal winning performance to Revel's Bolero

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Speaker 2: and the eighty four Winter Olympics, you know, and talked

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Speaker 1: They've had a fifty year partnership, which is amazing and

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Speaker 1: so then and then they made the transition from sports

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Speaker 1: people to entertainers and now their final tour, which I

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Speaker 1: love it. Their final tour is is because Australia is

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Speaker 1: really really dear to them and the fact that they

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Speaker 1: they've brought it here I think is really special. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: they shared stories from their early days and the challenges

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Speaker 1: about their approaches to performances. It was such a great chat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember asking them about what it's like

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Speaker 2: training and certainly with Jane putting her trusting in Christopher

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Speaker 2: hour at sometimes in the middle of those dances and

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Speaker 2: he's got a fully extended up in the air and

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Speaker 2: then doing spins.

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Speaker 1: On a little blade of steel.

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Speaker 2: So brave, So brave. They also touched on their work

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Speaker 2: with underprivileged children and the emotional impact of their of

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Speaker 2: their iconic routines, of those of those moments that they

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Speaker 2: shared with us. We rode those those what would you

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Speaker 2: call routines with them. Yeah, incredible.

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Speaker 1: There's such a great couple. You can still get your

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Speaker 1: tickets at ticketech dot com dot au. They're at the

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Speaker 1: Brisbane Entertainment Center Saturday fourteenth and Sunday the fifteenth of June.

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Speaker 2: Then they're in rod Lavor Arena. What a great place

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Speaker 2: that is Wednesday eighteen and Thursday nineteen of June, of

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Speaker 3: To be busy there are.

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Speaker 2: And the amazing thing is they ain't spring chickens right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're joined by incredible performers as well, some

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Speaker 1: amazing ice skaters. So have a listen to the chat

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Speaker 1: and hope you enjoy.

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Speaker 4: Guys also on the production, they will just call us

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Speaker 4: T and D.

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Speaker 1: I like that. That makes it easier. We'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on what has been and actually really continues to

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Speaker 1: be an incredible career. Our last dance it says it all.

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Speaker 1: Of course, how are you feeling about the impending retirement?

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Speaker 1: I mean of that particular world for you.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of weird to think that this time next

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Speaker 5: year we will have been retired already, because we're coming

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Speaker 5: that we're done, aren't we.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: We may stay, who knows, we stay, finish the tour

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Speaker 4: and just stay the We'll.

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Speaker 1: Wrap you up and keep you here very easily, I

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Speaker 1: have no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: Will you keep skating?

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Speaker 2: Is it something you enjoyed doing?

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Speaker 4: we're always scheduling ourselves for the next event, and right

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Speaker 4: now we're obviously in the throes of getting ready for

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Speaker 4: the tour, which is exciting. We're really excited about what

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Speaker 4: going out for the last time. But I'm sure as

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Speaker 4: and sentimental. You know, we've grown up together. We were fifteen, well,

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Speaker 4: we knew each other when we're ten years old. We

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Speaker 4: we've just about spoken to each other every day since then.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, that's an incredible partnership, Like obviously you've

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Speaker 1: I mean that outlasted most marriages. I mean, that's like

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Speaker 5: Well, obviously, you know the skating all has always been

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Speaker 5: same feelings about skating, and we're always we went through

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Speaker 5: be creative. As Chris said, we formed our own skating

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Speaker 5: There were no rules of competition or anything, so it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we transitioned from sports people to entertainers,

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Speaker 4: more famous cellists. So we've just done so many different things.

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Speaker 4: But it's because of that one four minute routine back

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Speaker 3: It's incredible, it is incredible.

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Speaker 2: I do want to ask you about the mindset change

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Speaker 2: are other things I want to cover before that. We

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Speaker 2: want to get just go back to when you were kids.

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Speaker 2: What was do you remember your first impressions of each other.

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Speaker 5: I just remember seeing Chris at the rink before we

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Speaker 5: And I said, oh, the blonde prince is here again

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Speaker 2: The Princess Bride was that that wasn't a thing yet?

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Speaker 2: Was it the Princess Pride? Because I could see why

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah? Was it immediate? The chemistry on ice when

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Speaker 1: you when you start You started dancing at fifteen and sixteen?

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Speaker 6: There was only two in that national tour.

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Speaker 4: fifteen years old. And she put us together. And remember

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Speaker 4: Yeah, often chasing them off the eyes. Anyway, she put

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Speaker 4: waltz hold, and to begin with we were sort of

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Speaker 4: We didn't move, We didn't say anything. We were just

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Speaker 4: And finally she came back out about five minutes later

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Speaker 5: The idea is that when you're a dance couple, you

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Speaker 5: she pushed our hips together because a lot you quite

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Speaker 4: So you could drive a bus.

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Speaker 5: Between Yeah, so they want you close together, which was

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Speaker 6: I absolutely do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so all the all the dance music that was, yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's fabulous, isn't it funny that I like in America

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I grew doing ballet, when I was a

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Speaker 3: Absolutely play it out?

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Speaker 4: We were true amateurs at the time because you couldn't

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Speaker 4: But after a shift, you know, take off one uniform

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we used to have people that made

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Speaker 4: It might come by the end of it anyway, She's

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Speaker 4: So you'd go and source the material. How much do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 4: At at one point.

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Speaker 1: Are they in a museum now?

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Speaker 4: Rink, is a museum now.

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Speaker 5: It's a huge building now and they've got a museum

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Speaker 4: And then just outside the ice rink it's called Blu Square.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a tram named after us as well,

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Speaker 5: We get very excited actually, and my kids do it too,

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Speaker 6: Mom? Is it yours? Sometimes?

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Speaker 5: I found myself in a restaurant in Nottingham with the

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Speaker 6: I was kind of doing it for them.

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Speaker 2: Really, Are you guys kind of like uncles an artists

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Speaker 5: They were, because your kids are in America and so on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what kids are like now, they're all

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Speaker 1: I'm skating nothing.

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Speaker 6: But they've been.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: But also we didn't want to force the kids skating

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Speaker 2: Either.

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Speaker 6: They were successful.

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Speaker 1: that's a word around it, because they they almost like

446
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: bring it out almost every Olympics. They use that as footage.

447
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's in so many you know, historical terms

448
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: that they talk about the tall and Dean Bolero performance.

449
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: Did you were you actually training in Nottingham when you

450
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: did that? Like did they actually have the organ player playing.

451
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 4: There's a whole process when we started as kids to

452
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 4: where we got to and just from the music side,

453
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: you know that our mentality is we got better. We

454
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 4: wanted everything to get better as well. We always wanted

455
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 4: to be doing the best we could, whether it was costumes, music, skating,

456
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: we took everything as wanting it to be at its best.

457
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 4: And so musically as we progressed from the maca Mabel

458
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 4: that we used to do, which was an overture that

459
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 4: we found that was perfect and it was a silent

460
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 4: movie theme that we did. But then we went to

461
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 4: Barnum because we wanted to do a circus theme and

462
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 4: then we met Michael Crawford and helped us with performance

463
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: and acting, and then he then introduced us to the

464
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 4: musicians and the musicians agreed to give their time and

465
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 4: record a bespoke again overture of they used.

466
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 5: A different arrangement to their normal overtures, so it fitted

467
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 5: into the four minutes that we allowus.

468
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: Skating used to be when it used to be two

469
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 4: reel to reels, a real to reel and you would

470
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 4: raise the blade music and stick them together. Nowadaysters and everything,

471
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 4: it is amazing what you can do. But when we

472
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: got to Billerro, obviously we couldn't go back from having

473
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 4: the music especially played for us that so Ballero. We

474
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 4: searched around for a blero that was four minutes long

475
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: and clearly the rhythm one because it's sixteen to eighteen

476
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 4: minutes long before orchestral piece. But we wanted the same

477
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: effect from that small intimate start to that crescendo that finishes.

478
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 4: And so we then approached an arranger and he sat

479
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 4: down and dissected it and he said, it sounds a

480
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 4: simple tune, but it's really complex. And he said, I

481
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: can only get it down to four minutes and twenty

482
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 4: eight seconds. And our limit was either it should be

483
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 4: four minutes, but you've got a ten seconds lea away yea,

484
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: so three fifty or four ten, and so we thought

485
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 4: about it and then we got the rule book out

486
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 4: and it said that the stopwatch starts when you begin

487
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: to skate. So we started on our knees and James

488
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 4: blade touched the ice at four minutes ten seconds.

489
00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 6: You can't technic.

490
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 5: We stayed until your blades on the ice.

491
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: Which which was white, I mean the beginning of it.

492
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so innovative.

493
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: We've never seen anything like that before.

494
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: And it came out of necessity.

495
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: Ah, so I mean again, and you talked about fate

496
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: earlier on, but like that just that's that's small little.

497
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 5: Well, it just because, as Chris said, we wanted to

498
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 5: start small and intimate and because we had to be

499
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 5: on our knees and close together. It worked for the

500
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: storyline anyway.

501
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that something like Michael Crawford taught you or

502
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: you said, if you want to draw an audience and

503
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: start small like that?

504
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 4: So your really well the music suggested that. But he

505
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: was very performance oriented, you know, he's very animated. He

506
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: spoke to you and when it was present and when

507
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: he was talking about Barnum and some of the tricks

508
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: he taught us some of the tricks that they did

509
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 4: on stage. Yes, there's one where you wrap your legs

510
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 4: around and go between your legs and on the other

511
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 4: side that they did on the stage, and the effect

512
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: of mind juggling and stuff like that, which we then

513
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 4: were able to incorporate into the routine. But yeah, it

514
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: was all about projection.

515
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said, if you don't if you don't believe it,

516
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 5: like if if you don't believe you're juggling, the audience

517
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 5: went for sure, and it was great advice for us

518
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 5: moving forward is.

519
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: He in the audience in Sara Jovo when you dance.

520
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: We worked with Michael the previous year when we were

521
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 4: doing which was three, but he came to the performance there, right,

522
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 4: who came up.

523
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: With that finale, that final fling in that bolo dance,

524
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: the sliding that when you're through there.

525
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there's there's two parts to the Olympics. We

526
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 4: did something called the passably.

527
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: Passa Doug that's the one I'm thinking, that's the one

528
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: that you think.

529
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 6: That's what I'm thinking, lying on the floor for both times.

530
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeahs around a bit.

531
00:27:54,119 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: We looked at Matadors. Yeah, looked at because in a

532
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: Pasadobilian actual fact that the lady is the cape in

533
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: the ball. And so if you watch what we did,

534
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 4: she was always draped around me like a caper. I

535
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: was holding her as if she was the cape, and

536
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: it's always sort of that sweeping gesture to the ball

537
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: at the end where you just lay down the cape.

538
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: That's it again.

539
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 5: We had the same costume designer who came up with

540
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 5: that great idea of the big sleeves that made me

541
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: look look.

542
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: Like a cape.

543
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 6: It was kind of weird.

544
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 5: Because most of the dance I was like that, so

545
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 5: I was cape.

546
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a good looking capeer.

547
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Did you ever just want to skate on your own

548
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: at that top level?

549
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: Or my stepmother and father they used to do social dancing.

550
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: They go out and social dance, and right from the

551
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: beginning they encouraged me to do dancing. And when I

552
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: first started, I just wanted to speed around the rinks

553
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: as as they could, and they'd be saying, don't become

554
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: don't become a speed skater or a hockey skate, think

555
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 4: about dancing, and so I went straight into the dance.

556
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: I do remember them when I think the first time

557
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: I got a pair of skates for Christmas, and I

558
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: lived out in the countryside and we couldn't just get

559
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: into an ice rink. So for the first two weeks

560
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 4: I walked around the house in my skates. I just

561
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: wanted to skate, dying to skate, and eventually, when when

562
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: I got to the ice rink, I launched onto the

563
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: ice and I think I must have fallen over in

564
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: excess of two hundred times. So it wasn't sort of

565
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: a natural thing or look, I can skate, but I

566
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: eventually mastered it and fell down less.

567
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: You come to the end of the performance, crowd goes wild.

568
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: Did you know in that moment you clinched the goal,

569
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: did you have that sense?

570
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 5: Well, you know, it was ours to lose in place

571
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: before we started, so there was a lot of pressure

572
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: in that.

573
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: We were champions the previous three ye right, yeah, So

574
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: the Olympics is.

575
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 6: The end of yeah, yeah, yeah.

576
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 5: So when we'd finished, we just wanted to skate well

577
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 5: because we'd done so many rehearsals in training, we'd run

578
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: through the whole thing. We'd run through the whole thing

579
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 5: during the Olympics when we had our practice sessions, and

580
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: we thought, if if we don't skate this well, it

581
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: will be so unlucky, yeah, and unfortunate, and we felt

582
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 5: that we couldn't have skated it any better for us.

583
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: There weren't any mistakes or anything, so just that in

584
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 5: itself was was a relief at the end. And then

585
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 5: you know, there was a while before the marks were

586
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 5: going to come up, and then when they did, well,

587
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 5: we were still collecting flowers, weren't we And we kind

588
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 5: of looked up because we heard a roar from the crowd,

589
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 5: and obviously it's because we've got the sixes in.

590
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those routines though that it can be.

591
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: We were in a bubble and so we were just

592
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: performing it. But when we watched it back, the room

593
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: was silent, which was great. It wasn't one of those

594
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: performances where everywhere you do.

595
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 5: A trick in the clap. We didn't want that anyway,

596
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: did we know?

597
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: We wanted to be engaging. People were withers as we

598
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: were skating.

599
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: And sort of threw it away before. But I was

600
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: saying when you fit together, but in that in when

601
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: you two danced together, there was such a synergy between

602
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: you both that there was no It was like we

603
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: were in our bubble watching it and to make any

604
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: noise or that was like no, no, shut up, stop.

605
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: Clapping, just watch.

606
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: In a way, yeah, beautifully together.

607
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: We felt like people were watching something very private.

608
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely a moment.

609
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: How did you stay grounded through that period.

610
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: Of care and telling your mom after your first won

611
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: the World champions.

612
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, when I came back from the first World

613
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: Championships in nineteen eighty one. My parents I grew up

614
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 5: working class background. My parents, you know, they worked their

615
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: whole lives and everything eventually ran a news agent shop,

616
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: which for them it was a big deal because it

617
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 5: was a business, you know. Anyway, I came back from

618
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 5: the World Championships and I said, oh, Mom, we won't this.

619
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: She obviously knew we wan't. I said, Mom, it's great,

620
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 5: we want She said, well, yeah, well there's always someone

621
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: better than you though.

622
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 6: Oh, I went, well, not in this moment.

623
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: They're always grounded it.

624
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: And then I kind of thought about it.

625
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 5: After, because well, yeah, she's right, because there might be,

626
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 5: you know, for someone coming up.

627
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: I mean, it's that working class thing that also if

628
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: you'd have when you used to borrow some money for

629
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: you from your mom for like a five or ten

630
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: pounds or something, right, two people right a little and

631
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: told you this is how much you owe me.

632
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah.

633
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 5: I also had to pay everything, and if I if

634
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 5: I snuck into the sweet shop and took a few

635
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 5: sweets out of the jaw, I had to put money

636
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 5: in the till because it had to balance.

637
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: Did you ever have to pay back for the secondhand

638
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: pair of skates that she bought?

639
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 6: No, I didn't know. I got away with that. Yeah,

640
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 6: I got away with that one.

641
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: You've been known for your creativity, obviously, and pushing the

642
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: boundaries in ice dancing. Do you remember that. Was there

643
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: ever a crazy, wild, unconventional idea or performance that you

644
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: actually never got to perform. Was there something that you

645
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: wanted to, like, let's do a trampoline in the middle

646
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: of the eyes.

647
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

648
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 5: I think we've had crazy ideas and we've managed to

649
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: make them pull them off work.

650
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. One of the rewarding things that we did we

651
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: made a documentary and we shut it in Alaska.

652
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I wanted to ask you about.

653
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: Because most of our time on the ice it's in

654
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: a building. It's manufactured contained. You know, it's frozen pipes

655
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: that are underlane with underlining under the ice, with free

656
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: arm going through it, and you spray over it and

657
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 4: it creates ice.

658
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: Plus you got a fence around the outside the barrier.

659
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: And but we went to Alaska and we skated the

660
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: ballero on a lake, open, natural lake, and the backdrop

661
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 4: wasn't the rink, it wasn't the mountains a video screen.

662
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 4: It was the mountains and all the beautiful pine trees

663
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: and it was natural and for and there was nobody there.

664
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: There was not an audience. There was a camera and

665
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: that was so rewarding to be able to.

666
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 6: It was just that.

667
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 5: Adding that because we always say that when you skate

668
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 5: you've got this sense of freedom and flying almost and

669
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 5: have been able to do it outdoors without any barriers

670
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 5: and restrictions. It was I don't know, it's quite an

671
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 5: emotional feeling because it's something we never thought we'd be

672
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 5: able to.

673
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 4: Also, we felt quite small, yeah, because it was the

674
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: vastness of the lake, because.

675
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 5: There was a drone as well, so you could see

676
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: from the top. You know how small we were compared

677
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 5: to the lake and everything.

678
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: So I wish I could remember his name. There's someone

679
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: I follow on Instagram. He he's Canadian and he was

680
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: he never won a medal or anything in the Olympics,

681
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: but he was he was a professional or is a

682
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: professional skater. But what he does all of his Instagram

683
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: post is him ice skating doing the wild.

684
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 4: Yes, he's doing our show.

685
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: Was watching you to see if you had any I

686
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: have to.

687
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: Watch it like makes me want to cry because the

688
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: freedom he has when he skates and you're just the

689
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: way that camera follows him around and it's just I

690
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: think I've sent you a couple of his posts. They

691
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: are just it's just magic.

692
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 5: We've never met him, have we You've spoken to him now,

693
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 5: but that's how Chris came across him from the post.

694
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 4: You go, yeah, yeah, we're excited with some of the

695
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 4: cast that.

696
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: We exactly does the back he just he injured his

697
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: knee a little bit, that's right. But apparently it was

698
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: the hottest summer in Alaska? Was that right when you

699
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: were searching for that ice exactly?

700
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were. I mean it had this sort of

701
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: undercurrent talking about climate change as well, and we flew

702
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 4: up onto the glaciers and walked around, but you could

703
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 4: see how much it was declining from where it used

704
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 4: to be and what it was where it was. Then, Yeah,

705
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: you know, mice ice may be gone before we know it.

706
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 5: Well, the first lake that they had identified for is

707
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 5: the crew and everything. When we got to it, it

708
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 5: wasn't going to be frozen enough. You know, so many

709
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 5: inches they need, and obviously.

710
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: We did find health and safety the free what was

711
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: the terminology that.

712
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 6: Skating?

713
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: We had these special blazes that were like this long,

714
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 4: and we're on one lake and we just could go

715
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: for miles.

716
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 5: And never stopped, never go around the corner.

717
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we did something unique as well that Jane. I.

718
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: They we cut a hole and I went in in

719
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: a dry suit, scupa diving Jane skated above me.

720
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 6: Skatered over the top of him.

721
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: Essentially.

722
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: Oh, I like doing some risky things.

723
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 6: Chris is the dare devil.

724
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: I would have preferred to be.

725
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: You tell me, did the dry I mean obviously you

726
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: stay dry, but you still get really cold, though, don't you.

727
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: You did it well, yeah, I mean they had a

728
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: little tent and they had a heat in it, but yeah,

729
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: it was cold.

730
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 5: Well, when we did the actual skate, the final skate,

731
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 5: we had a tent because it's in the middle of nowhere,

732
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: so there's no dressing room. We had a tent with

733
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 5: heaters in and we literally we did our warming up,

734
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: went back into the tent, run back house again and

735
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: then did the performance and several times.

736
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, several times.

737
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 5: But it was, you know, having that tent there to

738
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 5: warm up because it was I don't know minus whatever

739
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 5: it was, but it was very, very cold.

740
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was just an experience, yeah, something and

741
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 4: outside the boundary too, is incredible.

742
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: It just as you're talking about that remind me of

743
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: that movie Papillon with Dustin Hoffman and Steve McQueen and

744
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Steve McQueen's in prison and he can only work walk

745
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: five steps before he hits the wall. And then when

746
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: he finally gets out of his prison cell, he walks

747
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: six and falls over.

748
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, he six stem.

749
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: It's like, wow, So here you guys are outside of

750
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: the dimensions of what you're used to be doing. You're

751
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: in the open, open terrain.

752
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: Amazing.

753
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: Must have been very liberating.

754
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 4: And another funny story from that when we were going

755
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: to Fairfax. So we were in Anchorage and we were

756
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: going up to Fairfax on the train and I think

757
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 4: it was like a ten hour trainer.

758
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a famous train journey that people that connected two.

759
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 4: And on the way we were looking we were thinking

760
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: that we see ice on the way, and the conductor said,

761
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: well just stop the train, just let me got off

762
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: and we shoved some ice out of the way and

763
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: we did a little skate and all the passengers that

764
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: he was watching, and then we got back on and

765
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 4: carried on. It's one of those trains where people.

766
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 5: That live off grid, off gridge was just coming.

767
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: Wave down and the train will stop and they get on.

768
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 6: There's no actual station really to the end, it's.

769
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: Really imagine it being on mentor being a passenger on

770
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: that trying.

771
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: That who are those two idiots? A little skating?

772
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: You did another documentary I wanted to ask you about

773
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: ice rink on the estate. Can you tell us a

774
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: little bit about that one as well?

775
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: That was quite special that it was working with underprivileged

776
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: children in Nottingham. Nottingham called the Saint Anne's Area, which

777
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 4: was actually quite close to the rink, and it was

778
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: about giving opportunity for kids that would never have the

779
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: opportunity to have the money on go skating, et cetera.

780
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 4: So we worked with them and they couldn't skate or anything,

781
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: and we took them to the rink and we taught

782
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: them things. Then as a group we kind of put

783
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: together a performance. It was going to be a one

784
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 4: night performance for all the families in an outdooring.

785
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 6: Wasn't it on the estate.

786
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: But it's quite interesting that the young kids from this

787
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 4: state were quite feral.

788
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 6: Wet.

789
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 5: I don't know how many the first day came and

790
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 5: there was certain adults that brought them along and then

791
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 5: we said, right, so rehearsal tomorrow is at X time,

792
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: ten o'clock in the morning, whatever it was, and only

793
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 5: half of them turn up, and then the next day

794
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 5: you get a different half, and so you don't get

795
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 5: everybody at the same time. And right we were just

796
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 5: horrified because having put together many shows, the professionals are

797
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: there and they're looking at you right on time and

798
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 5: you say do this, And I know they can actually skate,

799
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 5: but it's just that discipline and they certainly didn't have that,

800
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: and you know, they've never grown up in a normal

801
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 5: sort of situation. There was a lot of problems there,

802
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 5: but some of them were really quite endearing.

803
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: Weren't They overcome it by the end, And we did

804
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: do a show. Yeah, And it was one of those

805
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 4: things that actually on the dress rehearsal and I think

806
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 4: it was was it in November time? It teamed down.

807
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 6: Oh that's right, Yeah, it ruins the ice and everything.

808
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: Oh no, But then the day of the actual performance

809
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 4: it was fine.

810
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: It was put the Zambia.

811
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: But I wondered what I wondered. I mean, that's such

812
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: a gift for those kids to have had the experience

813
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: of being both with you and like sort of feeling

814
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: like they mattered for that time.

815
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 5: You know, and they were given their own skates as well.

816
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 5: We just thought, you know, if if two of them

817
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 5: carry on skating, or you know, even if they didn't

818
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 5: enjoy it, they think, well skating is not for me,

819
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 5: but maybe I'll try this.

820
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

821
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: It's all about the experience.

822
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: The experience, and we you know, we took some of

823
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 4: the kids because we had to go and find money

824
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 4: for it, so we went around to local businesses, cap

825
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 4: in hand kind of thing we had made. The kids

826
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: were the ones that were asking for the support. So

827
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: it's another side of things of if you determined to

828
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 4: do something, you can make something happen.

829
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: Yep. Action question.

830
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: We all go through crises of confidence and you guys

831
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: were held up on a pedestal. How would you deal

832
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: with those moments during your career and subsequently.

833
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: Well, I think one of the times you had an

834
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: injury when we were competing, when we were competing and

835
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 4: as a moment a crisis and that we were generally,

836
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: each year you do the European Championships, which is a

837
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: precursor to the World Championships because most of the best

838
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 4: skaters are European and Russian. And this was nineteen eighty three,

839
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: and nineteen eighty three was the pre year before the Olympics,

840
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: and so nineteen eighty three was a big year, so

841
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: it was important to win the World Championships. Going into

842
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 4: the following year for the Olympics and the European Championships,

843
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: we had a big forward, didn't we.

844
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were training the barn and routine and we

845
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 5: fell and I ended up fracturing my shoulder and so

846
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 5: we literally had to pull out the European Championships. And

847
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 5: for us, that's the first time we'd had to miss

848
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 5: a big competition. We've done all our British Championships, European

849
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 5: World and as Chris said, it was the year before

850
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 5: the Olympic year.

851
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: So it was letting up competitors.

852
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 5: In someone else was going to win that Europeans.

853
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 6: It wasn't going to be usure.

854
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: So coming back from that, we had about seven or

855
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: eight weeks before the World Championships and so we just,

856
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 4: you know, we had to get over the the injury

857
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 4: better every night as a fracture, so we had to

858
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: come to terms with that and then when it was

859
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: time to get back on the ice, the process of

860
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: getting back was emotional. Yeah, difficult, but as a team,

861
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 4: I think you have to come together and work together

862
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: and understand each other what we need to do. And

863
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: we realized that we had to be possibly bigger and

864
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 4: better motter than ever than ever when we went to

865
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 4: the World Championships some eight weeks later to say to everybody,

866
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: we're still here.

867
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 5: We're still still had lots of tape on my shoulder blade,

868
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 5: but we always made sure it was hidden so whenever

869
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: the doctor did it, it was in private, like in

870
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 5: my room or something, not in the dressing room in

871
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: the changing room. So it was yeah, because a shoulder

872
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 5: injury like that, if you fractually shoulder blade, you can't

873
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 5: put it in plaster, you can't do anything. It just

874
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 5: tess to heal and there's not a lot of blood

875
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 5: supply to that area. So I had to be really

876
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 5: really careful not to put it back by training too

877
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 5: much or doing too much with it at first. But

878
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 5: as Christian, you know, we had an extra several weeks

879
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 5: of training. I remember we couldn't bear to watch the

880
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: European Championships on the television. No, we couldn't because it

881
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 5: was emotional for us, like we shouldn't be there. But

882
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 5: having said that, when we did get ready to go

883
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: to the World Championships, we felt more than trained, more

884
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 5: than ready, because we'd had those extra weeks.

885
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 4: I think that, I think those moments of crisis actually

886
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: makes you even more determined and stronger sure to want

887
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: to be if you've got the passion and the desire.

888
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: I think it's so brave as well. I mean, particularly

889
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Speaker 1: for you, Jane, you know the amount that you're being

890
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: thrown about, tossed about, I mean, I know it takes

891
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: bravery to do that as well for the man you've

892
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: got like literally the you know, the woman's hands, you know,

893
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: life in the hands.

894
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: Chris dropped her and she broke her shoulder. That's what

895
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: we've just been talking about the last three minutes.

896
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: Said that Jane has broken my nose.

897
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 5: I've landed on top of him a few times.

898
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: Laid through my head. Yeah, I've squashed the disc.

899
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: So I interrupted your question.

900
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: No, I was just saying, it's like there's so much

901
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: bravery that has to be involved, and then to get

902
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: back on the ice after, you know, and do that

903
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: same routine again when.

904
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: They hurts, when you fall on ice, and if you're

905
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: going it's speed that you two are Yeah, yeah, how.

906
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: Would you both like to be remembered in the world

907
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: of figure skating.

908
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 6: We'll just be remembered that yeah.

909
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, just being you know, like you said, when you

910
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: think of figure skating, certainly here in Australia, most people

911
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: go oh, tavel and.

912
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: Deed they do.

913
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 4: And so it's the memory of yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

914
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 4: sort of our legacy.

915
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that the memory has not dimmed as well,

916
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Like it's just yeah, it's very very vivid for all

917
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: of us who got to see it, and you know,

918
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: and in ensuing years as well.

919
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: So I brought this up the other day on the

920
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: golf course with my mates. I said, we're we're interviewing

921
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: Tuval and Dean on our podcast next week. Anyone got questions?

922
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: I can't ask you any of the questions, but they

923
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: all were like, that's amazing, that was so good. Can

924
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: you just tell us what's happening in twenty twenty five,

925
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: What tells us a bit more about the tour and

926
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: what we can expect.

927
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 5: Well, we want to celebrate our career and this is

928
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 5: our last dance, so we want to tell the story

929
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 5: that you know about our life and how we got

930
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 5: to where we are starting from, you know, as kids,

931
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 5: when we started out winning our first European championships with

932
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 5: Macca Mabel, which was quite a departure from the routines

933
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 5: we've been doing before and the progression there, and because

934
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 5: we've got a company of amazing professional skaters with us,

935
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 5: like for instance, Maca Mabel is based around the Silent

936
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 5: movie theme, so we're doing we're expanding that from the

937
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 5: four minute team to a big.

938
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: Everybody share a production number that comes our number, so

939
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: it's sort of a down memory lane for us, and

940
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 4: there'll be audio visual stuff, will be chatting on the

941
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 4: ice as well as skating, so it's an evening were

942
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: than our story, but we're being accompanied by some amazing skaters, yes, clearly.

943
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: And so many of your shows are already sold out.

944
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: I know there are tickets available to some, but already yeah,

945
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: you know, that's how much we love you are already

946
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: like getting tickets.

947
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 6: To this one, hope.

948
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: So and just okay, so how old were you in

949
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 2: about and I need to know the details in nineteen

950
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: eighty four you're in your twenty twenties. Yeah, okay, so

951
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: we do the math now, I'm not doing the math

952
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: but I'm just going We've got you guys.

953
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 4: Pasted physically right.

954
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: You've got what supplements are you taking?

955
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: What do you do to stay supple and strong?

956
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: You know, you just have to keep working. We're doing it.

957
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 4: You know, we're in the gym, keep skating, you watch

958
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 4: what you eat. And I think it's the continuity that

959
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: we just have kept skating. Okay, we're in the ice

960
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 4: rink all the time. You know, cold ice rinks are not.

961
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, because you look amazing. Spent a long time inside.

962
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: This is We love to ask just a question to

963
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: end the show with. Could you describe each other in

964
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: one word?

965
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 4: Silence? Hello, darkness, male. I don't know about one word,

966
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: but three, I've got three.

967
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 1: Okay.

968
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 5: My best friend, see, I knew he was going to

969
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 5: say that that was mine, that was going to be mine.

970
00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: So beautiful, Oh my gosh, is just gorgeous. Thank you

971
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: so much for your time. We just wish you all

972
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: the best with the tour. I know it's going to

973
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: be amazing, but it's just been a real honor.

974
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 6: To get to speak with you.

975
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 4: By thank you lovely speaking with you too.

976
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: Thank you