1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fear and Greed Business Interview. I'm Sean Almer. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Today we're learning from a serial entrepreneur. Dorry Kodahi has 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: built hugely successful businesses like DKM Blue, a leading merchandise 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: and uniforms company, and his current venture, Swinky Socks, of 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: which he's CEO. In fact, he's once owned or part 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: earned the Sydney Kings as well as the ille Worrall 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Hawks in the National Basketball League. He's written business books, 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: he's made it onto various rich lists, and he's won 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: awards for ethical business. I'm pleased to say that Dorry 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: joins me in the studio. Dorry, Welcome to Fear and Greed. 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sean. How are you going very well? 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Dorry and I knew each other about thirty 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: years ago. 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Ago, five years ago, definitely a while ago. 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: And it has been great to watch DKM blue because 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: you've had that for a long time. That business tell 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: us that story. 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you know my background started in the merchandise game. 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: But prior to that, as you would know, I was 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: in I was ahead so by trade and it started 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: from nothing and you know, then started Decamblue with my parents' garage, 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: and I guess, you know, I took a leap forward 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: and sort of built it from nothing, went to China 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 3: at a very young age and sort of found a 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: niche and importing directly, which a lot of companies weren't 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: doing in our industry at the time. And fortunately enough, 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: you know, all the decisions that I made at a 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: young age sort of paid off. 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: Did they all pay off or is it just one 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: of those ones we're more paid off and didn't pay off? 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: And so you kind of you you learn from your 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: mistakes and you build. 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: Well, look, I guess for me, the main thing was 34 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: I worked in my cousin's business for three to four 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: years prior to start my own. So for me, failing 36 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: everything at school, having a degree in anything that was 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: my university degree, and everything that I did in that 38 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: company just taught me a lot about the industry and 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: I got my foundations, you know, sort of the theory right, 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: but then I had to get out there and on 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: my own to get the practical right. And fortunate enough 42 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: for me taking us small steps and not just sort 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: of you know, running before you could run. So every 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: if I've done anything incorrectly, it's just been calculated decision making, 45 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: which haven't really put me back in a massive way. 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Dem Blue, given it was a startup, right now, how 47 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: old is it now? 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: Thirty years? A there, it's twenty four years now. 49 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty four years. So what does it do? And like, 50 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: how have you been able to keep it growing, you know, 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: keep it vibrant? 52 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: I suppose well, look, you know, you know, for me 53 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: going to China to Young Agels was very important because 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: the foundation of important directly when Chanto was a very 55 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: close market. You know, we do corporate merchandise, branding, promotional products. 56 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: We do work with literally every fast food chain in 57 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: the country. We do work we know with you know, 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: your Microsofts, your Samsung's in my CDEs Benz, we do 59 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: uniform programs. So I guess for me, everything that I've 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: talked talked to people about is being consistent with what 61 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: you do and sticking to the foundations of what your 62 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: business stands for. And when you start making money, people 63 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 3: start trying to get creative and trying to diverse too far, 64 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: too quick, too much. And you've seen a lot of 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: big companies almost go on there because I try to 66 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: diverse for what they do too much. We've always kept 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: it traditional. We've kept it to our true values and 68 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: the true cruts of what we do, which is selling 69 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: merchandise and uniforms. And we built online platforms. So we're 70 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: about to sort of transition with an online platform system 71 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: which gives clients the ability to be able to log 72 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: on and place you know, the stock our system, so 73 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 3: the four three po system that we've adopted. So yeah, 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: look for us, it's being consistent across the board, and 75 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: you know, you build your foundation and you build your 76 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: cash flow and you can keep on growing and doing 77 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: what you need to do. 78 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Swinky Socks. When we talked about this, our producer Michael said, 79 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: have you heard of sunky socks? 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: Are you wearing some swanky socks to get it? 81 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: May actually be something, but my sister gave me swinky 82 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: socks my birthday. Yeah, and so I actually do know 83 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: swinky socks. In fact, I may have a pair on now. 84 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 85 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: But tell me about that story. 86 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: Well, look, you know you know that one there. You know, 87 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: I was an ambassador for for Shiver's regal. I was 88 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: sort of doing a bit of work with them, and 89 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: they had this whole venture program that was sort of 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: gaining that dory. 91 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: But you're so you've gone from merchandising to an ambassador. 92 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: Like you know what. 93 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: I did a bit of events for them around sort 94 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: of you know, being a distinguished gentleman, you know, drinking 95 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: drinking my scotches at the time, and we did it 96 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: and we did sort of a couple of promotions together. 97 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: I think one of them is on my Instagram. So 98 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: we did a lot of sort of something at my house. 99 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: And they had this whole venture program which was around 100 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: social entrepreneurship and Tom Lawrence, who was pitching business at 101 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: the time, is one of the finalist. I had a 102 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: couple of fashion brands at the time, and I saw 103 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: in Pitchy Sock Business, liked the concept, like the idea, 104 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: called him in for a meeting after that. I was 105 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: in the crowd that watching. I think that, you know, 106 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: there's a few judges there that didn't see I guess 107 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: the potential that I saw, and I called him in 108 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: for a meeting and asked him, talked to about it, 109 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: talk to me talking about his business a little bit more. 110 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: You know, I was doing forty thousand revenue in its 111 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 3: third year, so I wasn't really a business of sales 112 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: more of a hobby. I saw a gap in the 113 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: market in the in the merchandise industry, so I really 114 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: want to folk. I'm building the brand in the retail sector, 115 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: but also take the brand into the corporate market and 116 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: have customized branded socks for multinationals, leveraging off a retail 117 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 3: brand which was never done in this country before. So 118 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: you know, we've taken them from a startup. Now we've 119 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: got offices in London, We're selling into the US, into Europe, Australia. 120 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: We've done over probably now over three million socks in 121 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: the last seven years. 122 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 123 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: So yeah, So it's you know, I always love trying 124 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: to find different niches in the market, and that's one 125 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: of them. And there's a few other products that I'm 126 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: launching at the moment. We've got a global patent product 127 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: called zip Zip which we're going to roll out very soon, 128 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: of another product called two can. 129 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: So they all in broadly merchandising, slash, clothing. 130 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: Product product development, merchandise. Now, what I'm trying to focus 131 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: on is building brands. And one thing I've always been 132 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: great at is building brands. And when you build a brand, 133 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: you're taken away the element of I'm buying because I 134 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: like you, if you build a brand, they're going to 135 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: want to buy the brand. As long as you're going 136 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: to offer the service and the quality behind that brand, 137 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: you're going to be able to get the customers. 138 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: And that's you know. 139 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: I guess with the Smaky Sox business, you know, we 140 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: built the brand focused on you know, we just did 141 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: a collaborative licensing deal with Douglas Costa, who's playing for 142 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: Sydney FC. Is a Brazilian World Cup soccer player, played 143 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: for your Ventus and Bayern Munich. The guy has earned 144 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: a lot of money out of his career and you know, 145 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: play with Krishana, Ronaldo and all that sort of guy. 146 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: So to sign him up on a multi multi licensing 147 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: deal for Smaky Socks for our retail collection, it's a 148 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: massive step for us and it gives us that platform 149 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: where we can really push our retail brand internationally, which 150 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: also adds value to our corporate B to B market, 151 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: which is where we're focusing on as well. 152 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: Stay with me. Dorry will be back in a minute. 153 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: I guess this morning is entrepreneur Dorry Kordahi. Dorry, you 154 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: mentioned briefly social media before. How important is or has 155 00:06:58,839 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: social media been to you. 156 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: Look, everything we've done, it hasn't driven our business. It 157 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: definitely adds value. It's a good way to communicate with 158 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: your audience, and that's for us. You know, having the 159 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: retail brand such as you know, your swanky socks, you know, 160 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: you know, getting your socials right, getting your look and 161 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: feel right is important. I know there are a lot 162 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: a lot of companies out there that really rely heavily 163 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: on that to really drive the narrative and getting new 164 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: influencers on board. We haven't gone down that path at 165 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: the moment. I've kept it conventional, focusing on the brand 166 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: and the quality of the product. And we do spend 167 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: a lot of money in Google paid advertising within our 168 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: business to drive a broader reach internationally. So yeah, so look, 169 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: we are getting to that space a little bit more 170 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 3: now that we're pushing the retail angle with our socks 171 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: and having Doug this on board signed up. We are 172 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: going to have to now leverage off a lot of 173 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: our commercials and getting the social media platforms thriving with 174 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: you with all our content that we're doing. 175 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: You have a bent towards sport, you do. We're a 176 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 1: co owner at one point of the Kings, the Sydney Kings, 177 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: more recently the Illeorra Hawks. 178 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for punishment. 179 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: But is it just the fact that you have been 180 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: successful you are able. 181 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: To do it? 182 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: Look, you know, for me, basketball gave me a lot 183 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: of a lot of my successes and having no degree 184 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: and failing what I did at school, basketball was my 185 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: drive and planned it professionally overseas when I was younger. 186 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: I was able to draw from my basketball experience and 187 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: I leveraged off that into how do you build a team? 188 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: So for me building up my team and my theories 189 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: in business, I leveraged a lot of my basketball career. 190 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: So you know, I'm passionate about the sport I was. 191 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: You know, I was a player, I was a player 192 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: agent and a co owner, was an advisory board with 193 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: Larry Cusman for a couple of years for the NB. Also, 194 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: you know, for me, it's just giving back to the 195 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 3: sport that gave me a lot. Hasn't made me money, no, 196 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: but you know, there's a passion in the hobby of 197 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: what you love doing. And I love testing myself in 198 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: the sporting administrative space, which you know I think I did. 199 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: I didn't it too well. I didn't too. 200 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: Credible with what we've done so far. 201 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's next? I mean you have actually said 202 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: there's a couple of products that you want to get 203 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: out there. I mean, you are really successful. Now I'm 204 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: going to I think this is right, But you're on 205 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: the young rich. When I was running Bow, you were 206 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: on the young rich, right, She's got to be well 207 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: under forty to be. 208 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm still on the forty on it. 209 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: You are. You look like you're underfordy that she was 210 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: real back of the couch. 211 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: What next though, Look for me right now, it's to 212 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: really compound what we've done. There's a lot of growth 213 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: with Swankish socks where we're going with it, as well 214 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: as Zip Zip and two Can. 215 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: They're at the emphasis stages. 216 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: So I really want to get those those brands out 217 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 3: out at the moment as well. So you know, I'm 218 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: getting I am getting older, so I do want to 219 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: work smarter, not harder, and that's my goal right now. 220 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine you have a lot of energy there, 221 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: like you're you're You're not the sort of guy that 222 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: thinks I might catch up on my Netflix. 223 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: No, No, I very rarely watched TV. I've always got 224 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 3: music in the background, so, you know, unfortunate enough, I've 225 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 3: got a yacht as well, which I've turned into a 226 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: charter business as well. So that's a hobby that you 227 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: that I've converted to a charter business. So for me, 228 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: it's all about if you're going to have hobbies, how 229 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: can you get them to generate your revenue? 230 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: How they're going to lose money on it? 231 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have hang out with you more. A yacht, 232 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: you got whiskey, you've got basketball teams. 233 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Can't complain? 234 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: Is it a fun life? 235 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: Look, you know it. You know it's a lot of 236 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: hard work. But I love doing what I love doing. 237 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: And for me, if you enjoy what you do, it's 238 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: not work. So people think, oh, you know, you're pretty lucky, 239 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: you've had a good life. But I'll tell you what, 240 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: twenty years of doing twenty five years of doing what 241 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 3: I'm doing, it's not easy. So I've sacrificed a lot. 242 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: I've worked hard, But you know, you've got to enjoy that. 243 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: You've got to enjoy the process and enjoy the fruits 244 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: of your success, isn't it. And now I am starting 245 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: to try to do that now. And you know, one 246 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: of my epithome is when you get older is enjoy 247 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: the now when you're always racing and your yours worrying 248 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: about tomorrow and to morrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. So 249 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: I've really taken a step back and looked at my 250 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: life and said, you know what, I have done a lot. 251 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: It's time to enjoy what you've done to a degree, 252 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: but still have your pulse on the future as well. 253 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, balance is what it's all about at the moment. 254 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Dorry, thank you for talking to Fear and Greed. 255 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 256 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: That was entrepreneur Dory Kordahi. This is the Fear and 257 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Greed Business Interview. Join us every morning for the full 258 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: episode of Fear and Greed business news that you can use. 259 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm Sean Elmer. Enjoy your day.