WEBVTT - HOW TO SPICE THINGS UP WHEN DISTANCE GETS IN THE WAY

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<v Speaker 1>I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming.

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<v Speaker 2>She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>my kissing style with a.

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<v Speaker 1>Boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in a trash bin.

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<v Speaker 1>He's non recyclable. Catching them up.

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<v Speaker 2>I love being love. I love love.

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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are

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<v Speaker 1>discussing all things long distance relationships. After Matt and I

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<v Speaker 1>have been apart for the past three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a look at how long distance relationships work

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<v Speaker 2>and where the absence really does make the heart grow fonder.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all

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<v Speaker 1>things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Matt, I've just spilt my coffee all over our

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<v Speaker 1>podcasting table.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry about that smell like coffee, though, I do like

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<v Speaker 2>that smell. How you going. I'm good. We're back in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio and we've listened to you guys, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing a topic episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. So we put a poll on our Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>page and we thought for sure that the hotlines we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win, Like everyone loves the hot lines because we've

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<v Speaker 1>had so much good feedback. But actually the winner was

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<v Speaker 1>a topic episode followed closely behind by a hot line

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<v Speaker 1>and then an interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's not take away from our guests. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>some beautiful guests over the time. But you guys just

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear us talk about topics, don't you.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the thing about guests is maybe some people

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<v Speaker 1>might not know some of the guests or they might

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<v Speaker 1>have less interest, whereas like a topic is always interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we have been separated for about three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a long time for our platonic friendship to

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<v Speaker 1>endure us. Not long enough, no, because we're on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone like every single day, like certantly talking about the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're constantly like in communication, and we kind of had

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a break, to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be fair, I didn't think it was that long because

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<v Speaker 2>we're always in touch, and then it was brought to

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<v Speaker 2>our at tension.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I was in Hamilton Island and then I

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<v Speaker 1>came back and then it was the Easter break and

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Mildura. Michael is going to Sydney coming

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<v Speaker 1>up for a work conference which he missed last year

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<v Speaker 1>because we were in Bali, but this year he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>going anyway. I looked at the dates because Matt and

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<v Speaker 1>I are actually planning another Sydney trip but during Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>Fashion Week.

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<v Speaker 2>Excited for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then I realized that Michael's conference is the

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<v Speaker 1>week before, which means that he'll go to Sydney for

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<v Speaker 1>the week, come home, and then on the Monday, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go to Sydney with you for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>When you sent me the dates, I thought they were

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<v Speaker 2>crossing over. No, okay, they crossed over, So I was

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<v Speaker 2>like that will work then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so we were like, oh, that's so annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be separated for a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we have been separated before. We got separated

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<v Speaker 1>where and I got separated and like so like dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>People who actually have been in a long distance relationships

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<v Speaker 1>are probably like shut up, shut up, But we did.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the UK last year and then Dubai.

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<v Speaker 2>How long was that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was about three weeks. I'm pretty sure what felt

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<v Speaker 1>like a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you guys do to like keep it going, like

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<v Speaker 2>keep you know, staying touch in that because the time

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<v Speaker 2>difference is pretty difficult. I remember you go to trouble

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the time difference is really hard. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of funny because Michael, he just ended up like

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<v Speaker 1>when I would wake up, I would call him, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he'd end up like staying awake during the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night. So like when I actually came home

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<v Speaker 1>from being overseas, I was like, I'm so jet lagged,

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<v Speaker 1>and He's like, yeah, me too, because he'd been like

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<v Speaker 1>half in the middle of the night, like because he

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to talk to me, which was very sweet

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<v Speaker 1>and very cute. But obviously that was only for a

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<v Speaker 1>very small three week period. So I guess we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wanted to chat today about what it really is

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<v Speaker 1>like to be in a long distance relationship. Have either

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<v Speaker 1>of us been in a long distance relationship and everything

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<v Speaker 1>in between? Let's jump in, okay, Matt, So have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever been in a long distance relationship?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that? Yes I have. So I actually was

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<v Speaker 2>in a long distance relationship. This is actually you remember this,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you. It was what it's two years ago exactly

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<v Speaker 2>to the point, because I remember I was chatting with

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<v Speaker 2>her watching the Anzac day game. It was actually two

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<v Speaker 2>years to the day. So do you know McKenzie Ditman

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<v Speaker 2>from Love Island, US, Well, I mean I.

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<v Speaker 1>Do know her because you told me about it. For

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<v Speaker 1>everyone listening, you can probably so find her online.

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<v Speaker 2>I slid into her DMS around that time, and we

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<v Speaker 2>chatted and like we were very chatting, Like I remember

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<v Speaker 2>you were very chatting, well, like pretty intensely. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>so I was. Remember it was during like still borders

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<v Speaker 2>were closed, so like I was trying to get her

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<v Speaker 2>like a through my dad's work, a visa two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't know that. I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting my dad to try like figure out

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<v Speaker 2>a visa like as so she could work and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>still be yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>At the full company.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so she'd be like in the office, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>taking like payroll, working and then she could come into

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<v Speaker 2>the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So hold on, let's just rewind because Matt jumps like

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand miles ahead because I didn't even know this

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<v Speaker 1>was happening. So you slid into her DMS and what

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<v Speaker 1>did you say.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm notinety nine percent sure it was a flame reaction, right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>You flame reacted, and then the conversation obviously unraveled. From then,

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<v Speaker 1>how did it become just like chatting in the DMS

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<v Speaker 1>to something more serious very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it was maybe like a day or

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<v Speaker 2>two that we moved from the DMS to I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, I'll call you, yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>she was like chatted on the phone. Yeah. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll call you, and I was driving. I remember I

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<v Speaker 2>was driving and I called her, and I remember she

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<v Speaker 2>said it didn't go through because I didn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to call an international number at the time, so like

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<v Speaker 2>we did, do you call an international Well, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was just normally you do it on FaceTime, fame

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<v Speaker 2>audio or whatever. So I just called it and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going through, and I was sort of driving, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm conscious of not being on my phone, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember she said that, like she told her family I

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<v Speaker 2>was calling her and they were like, oh, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is exciting. And then I just didn't call it

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<v Speaker 2>because it didn't go through because I was driving. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't send a message anything much of it, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like it's early days. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>finally forgur playing it from the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the world's calling.

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<v Speaker 2>Du Yeah, So then I got through we started chatting.

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<v Speaker 2>What we found that we could chat on was American football,

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<v Speaker 2>So my love for American football. You do love American Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she lived in Arizona, so like we talked about them,

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<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals and all that sort of stuff. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to her about AFL, try teacher about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that was really earlier. I sent her a

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<v Speaker 2>video about AFL and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we just connected on your love of sport.

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<v Speaker 2>A love of sport. Yeah, do you you like we

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<v Speaker 2>were chatting pretty intensely for a long time, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>reckon it was two months, like we were even like

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<v Speaker 2>this is how wild. We hadn't even met, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were like exclusive, like weren't like sleeping getting with other people,

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<v Speaker 2>talking to other people. It was pretty intense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do remember that it's wild that needed to

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<v Speaker 1>be exclusive with someone who you've never met. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you see it on the not that this

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<v Speaker 1>was a catfish situation, but I mean on catfish people

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships for like six years.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remind me of like catfish sort of thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you guys video chatted, video chatted a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I remember once I got into your car, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where we were going, probably the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>No podcast wasn't around them, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I got into your car and she was on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, and she had like she was like, hey

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<v Speaker 1>Anna in her American accent, and I was like, hey

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<v Speaker 1>what an American accent?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, like we do different things to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>make the relationship work. I would still go on dates.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how would you go on a date if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a long distance relationship for America to Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>So we would obviously because of the time difference, it

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty brutal, and I didn't me being meetn't give much.

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<v Speaker 2>So like I was like, all right, well, when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>having dinner, you have dinner. So it would probably be

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<v Speaker 2>like two o'clock in the morning, four o'clock in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning there.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was having dinner at four o'clock in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't do you want to do the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>late shift.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd work and stuff like I had to get up

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<v Speaker 2>for work. So it all worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>But she'd make a fake dinner or she'd eat actually

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<v Speaker 1>eat dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she'd eat dinner and then so like we

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<v Speaker 2>do stuff that we could both order. So we did

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<v Speaker 2>Domino's on time, we did like KFC or market. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so stuff that we could both have the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd FaceTime and eat together and just chat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite cute, Matt. Yeah. See I loved the imagination,

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<v Speaker 1>did you?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, handle it dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a man to get hot, So you obviously really

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<v Speaker 1>liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did you in your.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind obviously when you entered into this exclusive long distance relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>were you thinking, look, the borders are going to open soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you planning on going there? Was she planning on

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<v Speaker 1>going coming to Australia? What was the deal?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a bit of both, like neither of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of didn't say I was going to go

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<v Speaker 2>over there because I had work and other stuff, this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast in the pipeline and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't so And I'd already been to America,

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<v Speaker 2>so I wasn't so like just going there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>said I'll go and like go over there. If the

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<v Speaker 2>borders were open, it would have been a completely different story.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have flown over the next I would have

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<v Speaker 2>flown over that week. Yeah, I would have flown over

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<v Speaker 2>the next day, but the borders weren't open, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was like I would if I flew over, I had

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<v Speaker 2>to be there for three months or something. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember the regulations at the time, so it was something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I was like, well, I can't really go

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<v Speaker 2>there for three months, like you can come here for

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<v Speaker 2>an extending amount of time. She was more gonna come here.

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<v Speaker 2>But then like there was so strict on the borders

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<v Speaker 2>that we were looking into it. You needed like a

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<v Speaker 2>working visa and all this sort of stuff. So and

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<v Speaker 2>we were always saying the borders will open soon, They're

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<v Speaker 2>open soon, and it turns out that you're open for

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<v Speaker 2>another year. Wow, So lucky, Yeah, lucky. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>we fizzled. We fizzled out eventually, Like it just sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like I made it fizzle out.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, I'm pretty sure she ghosted me. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just like it just wasn't working like the whole

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<v Speaker 2>like we couldn't see anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You were being slack and that's why, Yeah, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>let's not paying yourself as a victim.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was being shitty like I was. I could

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<v Speaker 2>see that there was no like it was there was

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<v Speaker 2>no end in sight. So I sort of, yeah, got shitty,

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<v Speaker 2>like not shitty towards it, but like I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>her toward the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so she didn't go into that a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>like what kind of happened?

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, I don't really remember, do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really? I just remember that she was annoyed at you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you were kind of taking a step back. Yeah, memory,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't like specifically remember details.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've got a message that says, fuck, she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to Crispin if she ever hears this. I said, what's wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Said nothing? All good talk later. Don't tell me you're

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<v Speaker 2>clearly not happy. I'm not happy. We just didn't talk

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<v Speaker 2>today because you blew me off, which is fine because

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<v Speaker 2>we're casual now. But I'm busy tomorrow so we may

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<v Speaker 2>not talk then.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously the long distance kind of got in the

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<v Speaker 1>way the way I guess what happened? Question when the

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<v Speaker 1>borders did open? What was your kind of relationship status?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was with Jen right, got you? Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that the borders opened. I did think to

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<v Speaker 2>myself about it. She actually sent me a photo that

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<v Speaker 2>the borders had opened.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I ignored it, obviously because I was in a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with Jen yep, but I acknowledged it in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh yeah, and then nothing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she no, she was going to come out to

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<v Speaker 2>Australia and was going to catch up with my family

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<v Speaker 2>because she actually had met my family over FaceTime, so

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<v Speaker 2>she was friendly with them.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't find weird. Yeah, I don't find that weird

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, meeting someone face some one time and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up with them, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's weird. I think it's like they

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<v Speaker 2>got along. I would you're in a foreign country, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like some.

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<v Speaker 1>People they're like, yeah, I get that, Like I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>get the fact that, like you're trying to bit I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean yeah. So that sort of happened and

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<v Speaker 2>then we and then we just think, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty shame that that was just.

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<v Speaker 1>The timing was off. Timing is off.

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<v Speaker 2>The timing is everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Timing is everything. We've spoken about that a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what can you do if the borders are

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<v Speaker 1>close and there's nowhere to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, if the borders were open, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have flown over there. Literally, this is like imagine right,

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<v Speaker 2>like if I was in that situation, I'd just fly

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<v Speaker 2>straight over. Like I've got no qualms jumping on a plane.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually enjoy jumping on planes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saving my penny and how should I want to

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<v Speaker 3>go to LA at the moment? Yeah, you like, we

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<v Speaker 3>do other things as well, Like I remember we would

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<v Speaker 3>start movies at the same time, at the exact same time,

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<v Speaker 3>press play and watch them at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And TV shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't you have a bath together ones? I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>like put rose petals.

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<v Speaker 2>In your I think that sounds familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm yeah, that's so mad of mat.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd also do like romantic things, like right before we finished,

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<v Speaker 2>she sent me a box and it had like her

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<v Speaker 2>favorite snacks in there. It had like a nice cool

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt. I don't think I've worn that yet get

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<v Speaker 2>it out, had like her favorite snacks. It had she

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<v Speaker 2>was just in a magazine, so she sent me the magazine,

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<v Speaker 2>which was really sweet. She also sent me a pair

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<v Speaker 2>of her underwear. It's pretty sweet. Carry else was in there,

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<v Speaker 2>some sweet stuff and they're like it was really cute,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was actually putting together one for her I

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<v Speaker 2>had tim Tams VEGGIEMI like the equivalent of the snacks

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<v Speaker 2>that we have of hers in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, I'm still in the underwear thing. I have

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<v Speaker 1>not heard anything that you said. I think I heard

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<v Speaker 1>tim tawn at one point. Were they used under it?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they weren't. They weren't used, and they were sprayed

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<v Speaker 2>in her perfume. So so you did smell, well, it

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<v Speaker 2>was when you opened them you could smell it, and

0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.640
<v Speaker 2>it was coming from them. It was nice, so sweet, romantic, romantic,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, putting.

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<v Speaker 1>A good pair of my underwrown a box and sending

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<v Speaker 1>it to the other side of the world, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>wearing them. It's true, this is true, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look it is yeah, like since they're not worn and used,

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<v Speaker 1>it is quite sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was packing on for her, so I

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<v Speaker 2>put the equivalent of the version of her snack that

0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.440
<v Speaker 2>she liked in there with watching the Mandalorian at the

0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.280
<v Speaker 2>time together, So I had like a baby Yoda that

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<v Speaker 2>probably doesn't mean anything to you, but like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the things I had a soft plush toy of that.

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<v Speaker 2>She collects Starbucks mugs from every city she went to.

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<v Speaker 2>So I brought her a Melbourne one cue. I that

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<v Speaker 2>in there, but we stopped talking before I could send

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<v Speaker 2>that off.

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<v Speaker 1>She still got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had it in my room for a while because

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<v Speaker 2>I moved out within the week with my mates at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, because I moved out, so it was sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in my bedroom at my mum's for a while because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously wasn't there right. And then eventually, I think like

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas time, so like nearly a year later, I was

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<v Speaker 2>just eventually these things to go, like it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>with gen now this is clearly not and it ain't

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<v Speaker 2>going anywhere. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>We that's so interesting. Yeah, So when obviously it started

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<v Speaker 1>to fizzle out, was there a talk of the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys were no longer exclusive or did it just.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it just fizzled. I think there was talk

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the in that message before she did

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<v Speaker 1>say I know we're casual now. Maybe it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of spoken about.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember things. I remember getting really jealous though.

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<v Speaker 1>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's well, my love language is obviously quality time

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<v Speaker 2>and intimate touch. So intimacy, yeah, touching like intimacy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just funny, it's fun Yeah, So like none of

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<v Speaker 2>that really like hurt like that. So I struggled with

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<v Speaker 2>and then to know that she was going out and

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, I wasn't really going out. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like sort of standing, you're in COVID lockdown, COVID lockdown,

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like knuckling down saving all that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff as well. So she was like going out

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<v Speaker 2>like flying. I remember to New York when we came

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<v Speaker 2>to Miami, and I was sort of just like this sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just sitting here.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you're meeting and who with the people you're with?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm jealous of the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Of times speaking to the choiet preaching. Yeah no, but

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<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of true. It's like even if you're

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like an attractive male that she's hanging out with,

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<v Speaker 1>it you're jealous, it's still like you're jealous of the

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<v Speaker 1>time she's spending with other people because you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>to spend that time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exactly what I said. I was like, I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to be spending this time, and it just hurts it

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<v Speaker 2>like other people get to do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that's one of the most challenging

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<v Speaker 1>things about long distance relationships is the jealousy. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>There was a study done where people spoke about the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that they feel the most in long distance relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>and the number one thing that keeps popping up is jealousy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the jealousy of the other people around you and

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<v Speaker 1>the time that people are spending with you and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting to see you and spend that time with

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<v Speaker 1>you not feeling like a priority. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they've obviously got other things going on in

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<v Speaker 2>their life over there which you can't be involved in.

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<v Speaker 2>So like at the time she was well share, she

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<v Speaker 2>had her she was doing all her stuff over there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to be a part of it obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you know when you like someone, Yeah, like stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing absolutely okay. So there's seven stages to

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<v Speaker 2>a long distance relationship when you first initiate it. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're now talking from the side of when you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship, and then you are going to be long distance,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're living together or you're in the same town

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<v Speaker 2>the same area. So the first step is decision. You're

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<v Speaker 2>also going to decide whether you want to continue it

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<v Speaker 2>long distance, yeah, or alternative is breaking up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So Basically, people decide to go long distance because

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<v Speaker 1>maybe an opportunity might arise, something to do with work

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<v Speaker 1>or study, or like a lifelong dream, or a family

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<v Speaker 1>member moving or someone's ill, whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 2>One person might just want to travel the world and

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<v Speaker 2>the other one can't for work, and come to the

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<v Speaker 2>decision that like you're I'm happy with you to travel,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so part of that first stage is a

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<v Speaker 1>decision to actually be in a long distance relationship or

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<v Speaker 1>to break up. And then the second stage is as.

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<v Speaker 2>If you decide to stay in a long distance If.

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<v Speaker 1>You decide to stay in long distance, the second stage

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<v Speaker 1>is the parting. So during the parting, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of boundaries that need to be set. There's basically like

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<v Speaker 1>a whole new set of rules that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>make for your relationship, Like this is what I'm comfortable with,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not it'd be so hard, so hard, right, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be like imagine partying, like knowing that they're about

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<v Speaker 2>to hop on a plane or take off in the

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<v Speaker 2>car and you're not going to see them. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be able to just fall on them.

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<v Speaker 1>For like cud cuddle. Yeah, your love language no longer there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's I think it might even be correct me

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm wrong, But like nearly as bad as breaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, almost, because you're like, I really don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>break up. We belong together, we love each.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, and we're still together.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically, we're technically still together. And now I need to

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<v Speaker 1>put all of my faith and trust in you that

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, we're going to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>other end and eventually be back together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which feel like that would be intense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's extremely intense. I can't even like imagine imagine at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine Michael going, Okay, I've got to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Europe for my work.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have a feeling that wherever Michael would go,

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<v Speaker 1>you just go with. I would follow. But that's because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a position where I can do that. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm in a very lucky and blessed position to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to just pick up, like I can call

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<v Speaker 1>into this podcast and we can still have the podcast running,

0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.400
<v Speaker 1>other things that I have going on in the side,

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<v Speaker 1>it can all be picked up and moved. And I

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<v Speaker 1>realize how fortunate I am to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But not everyone is in a position where they can

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<v Speaker 1>just pick up their life and move Like people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they make friends and they set roots, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to just pick it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Even on the weekend. My sister's fiance wants to go travel.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I brought up before. He just wants to

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<v Speaker 2>go travel. And obviously my sister's got a job now

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<v Speaker 2>that she's fully in and she loves it and she

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<v Speaker 2>can't take time off like that. Yeah, so they're a

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<v Speaker 2>not a crossroads. But she literally said go travel. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Okay, I've got to focus on my job

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<v Speaker 2>and compromise.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think all relationships there needs to be compromises made.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move into stage three, which is a transition.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is when you're like tin positioning from a

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<v Speaker 2>like were saying before, like from a relationship where you're

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<v Speaker 2>with your partner. You can rely on your partner to

0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.920
<v Speaker 2>go out for breakfast in a drink, or you can

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 2>ask them to get something from the shops on the

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<v Speaker 2>way home. Now you can't. You're by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that transitional period is very hard. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of big emotions encompassing that stage. There's a lot

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of sadness. You know, you're kind of finding your independence again,

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:30.919
<v Speaker 1>you're finding your new normal.

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<v Speaker 2>What You've still got them there, so that's still got them.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why it's like you've still got them, but

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<v Speaker 1>also your life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean out there. So I find I

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<v Speaker 2>find it harder than a breakup, I reckon because you've

0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.840
<v Speaker 2>still got them, like on the phone, and like you're

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:45.920
<v Speaker 2>still part of each other's lives, but they're not there.

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:47.959
<v Speaker 1>But I guess you just you want to be in

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:52.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot of communication with them, and you know, to

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>be like really like a part of their life and

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<v Speaker 1>to be finding out what they're doing and facetiming and

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 1>calling and all of those things to stay to feel

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<v Speaker 1>really connected. The great thing about this day and age

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<v Speaker 1>doing a long distance relationship is it's so much easier

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<v Speaker 1>than before. Like people were writing letters and waiting for

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>weeks for a reply. These days, you can send someone

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<v Speaker 1>a text message and it's instantaneous.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, Like, yeah, you'd have to

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.720
<v Speaker 2>call from either like a payphone or from like your

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:21.280
<v Speaker 2>house phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think long distance relationships are much more

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<v Speaker 1>common now, I would say because of the fact that

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 1>we have so many means of communication.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm. The next step, step four is realization. So

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 2>when it sinks in and you've you've come to let's

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<v Speaker 2>say terms, or you've come to accept what's happening.

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of processing to do with the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think after you're spending a bit of time

0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.920
<v Speaker 1>away from someone and starting to find that new normal,

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.440
<v Speaker 1>it really like I think the reality of the situation

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<v Speaker 1>then sets in and you're like, Okay, that's what it's like,

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.960
<v Speaker 1>this is how my life now is. And I guess

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like is there an end in sight?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I do?

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<v Speaker 2>This?

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Is this gonna?

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Is this suitable for me? Which brings us to stage five,

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 1>which is the jealousy, which we spoke a lot about before.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people who are in long distance relationships

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<v Speaker 1>experience this overwhelming feeling of jealousy. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, as like I said before, I was

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I was very jealous. I'm a jealous person at heart,

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 2>So like I found it very hard to be in

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 2>that situation where, like I said, you see you're like

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 2>your partner having like a good time with other people

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 2>or just stuff that you can't be involved in. It

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like like I want to take you out for dinner,

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 2>and like, yeah, you get green with jealousy?

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<v Speaker 1>Did she ever get jealous with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe? I don't really remember. I don't remember. I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. Yeah, remember that thing stands out. Nothing stands

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<v Speaker 2>out to me really, I mean I feel like anyone

0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:00.640
<v Speaker 2>in that situation probably could or would.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Okay, moving on to stage six. So stage

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 1>six and seven are the most crucial. So stage six

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>is doubt. So that's when you start to second guess yourself.

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Is this a good idea? Can I do this long term?

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Can I do this for another six months or however

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 1>long it's going to be? I better off single. The

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>doubt is like the really crucial stage of a long

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>distance relationship where you either go from strength to strength

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 1>or you decide this isn't going to work out for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you don't think it's going to work out,

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>that's the end of it. You're breaking up with them. Well,

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 2>there's no seventh step.

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<v Speaker 1>So the seventh stage is validation, and that is like

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the optimal thing that you need in a long distance

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>relationship to make it work. So that's the validation, the communication,

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 1>the reassurance, and that's the things that really does stop

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>you from breaking up. So the doubt sets in, and

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Speaker 1>then you need really good communication with your partner for

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>them to say, like if, for instance, we're in a

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 1>long distance relationship and I'm like, I don't know if

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>this is working for me, I'm really missing you, I'm

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>not doing well. Then you have an amazing partner who

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>says it's okay, this is only temporary. We're gonna see

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 1>each other in a month when you come to visit me,

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna have the best time ever. I love

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you so much. I'm here for you, I support you,

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I love you. We're gonna do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, teammate, I think that there could never be

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 2>too much validation and words of affirmation in a long

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 2>distance relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel better from our fate relationship from that?

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you need? I reckon, There could never be

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>too much, Like I reckon, You could just keep going,

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 2>keep taling them it's skinning, be all right, I'll see

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 2>you in be and then it would lift both everyone's

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>spirits up, don't you reckon?

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? When I was saying that little spiel, Matt's like

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>nodding and smiling like.

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Cool, Yeah, yeah, we're gonna be good. I love validation.

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 2>How good is it? I agree? I have Well that's

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>the seven steps. But I think that a validation you

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>could never have enough in a long distance relationship.

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And the communication and like, I think a lot

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>of relationships break down because of a lack of communication,

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and so before you're entering into a long distance relationship,

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you really need to be crystal clear and if you're

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 1>feeling a certain feeling to tell your partner, like, you know,

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 1>we don't ever, I don't think you do. Do you

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>bottle things up? Because I don't bottle anything. As soon

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>as I feel an emotion, I'm like, so forthcoming.

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>It's probably something I should probably work on bottling some

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 2>stuff up, not picking out everything. I reckon. No, I

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>don't bottle anything up. I'm pretty straight to it. I

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 2>tell you how I feel, I speak my mind.

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, but I think it's positive, especially like it.

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Can be sometimes I find that like I didn't need

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 2>to say that. I'm like, oh, I don't need to

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 2>say that, Like, just let us slide this one cushions.

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know.

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>What you talking, Like, is it worth it?

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Really I'm just saying you feel like I'm feeling insecure.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, oh, I'm feeling a bit insecure. Then

0:26:58.080 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll get some validation and then I'll be like Okay,

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 1>then good.

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're I just about everything in general.

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Some one annoys you, heap. I mean, you can probably

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>still annoy someone.

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 2>It's pritty easy. It's surprisingly easier than you think.

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have a question for you. Way, would you

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>ever do another long distance relationship?

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's the old fashioned thing of what I

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>know now. I probably could and probably be a lot

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 2>better at it.

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So you feel comfortable no, but you do it.

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but if it was the one, if it was

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the one.

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>So if it wasn't the one, then you'd be.

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, I mean, I mean yeah, yeah. I mean

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 2>it depends on the situation, wouldn't it If it's like what, Well,

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>it's easier now borders are open, like you can just

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 2>jump on a plane. I've got the flexibility of moving

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 2>wherever and doing whatever as well, so I could just

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>slake off on a plane.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes it's not that easy. I mean, popping on

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>a plane is expensive.

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 2>True, for you know, paying for accommodation, but you'd stay there,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 2>but there they've got a house. Yeah, I don't know.

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I think that you know, you know what you know

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>now you would? Yeah, have you been in a long

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>distance relationship, Hannah, I've.

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Not been in a long distance relationship. But I was

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>in a six year relationship and I decided to go

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to Hong Kong for work to model for three months.

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember that.

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I downed Hong Kong.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I went to Hong Kong for three months

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 1>and I was in a relationship the whole time.

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>And how'd you find that?

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>You know what? I found it like pretty chill, like

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty easy. We spoke like every day I would wake

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>up to like a good morning message. We'd kind of

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>text all day. We'd FaceTime, so there's a time difference

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours. It wasn't too bad. And yeah,

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>like I think the only challenging thing would be like

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>if it was like a weekend and he was out

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>with his friend friends, I'd be a bit like you're

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>in Hong Kong bottles, Well.

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, more jealous.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he was mildly jealous, but like I was

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>probably more jealous, But yeah, I was staying with my

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>friends Serah because she was working at Disneyland as a

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Disney princess, so she had accommodation in Hong Kong, so

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I just moved in with her, which was really fun.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Like when I think back to like my memories of

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>my younger life in my twenties, that's probably a highlight

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:34.959
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so glad I did it. It was like

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>so random, and obviously I didn't have the best experience

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>modeling there because they would just like line fifty girls

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>up and choose the skinniest one, so it just made

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you feel like shit. It actually got to a point

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>where I broke even from doing a couple of modeling jobs.

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, Okay, that's it. I'm going

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to party because I was taking a hit on my

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>self esteem because I was just like, I'm not going

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to like starve myself to do this.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah, that's it. It's very interesting. I like, I'm

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 2>hearing you talk about modeling overseas. I've got my stories

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>about it as well. It's it's not everyone glamorous, is it.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not Glamorous's not glamorous at all. But I mean,

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I think I was like, how old were you?

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I was like twenty three, twenty two.

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and back to the long distance thing, how did

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>you guys make that work? Then? Facetiming all the time?

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, FaceTime. I ended up going to Thailand as

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>well with my girlfriends. I directed that trip.

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>And you were the one that was more jealous. Well,

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 2>you're galliber galibating around.

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean the thing is is you trust yourself. You

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>know that you're not going to do anything wrong. So

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, you're like, well, it's not a

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>big deal that I'm in Hong Kong and Thailand and

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>having the best time ever. But like I was, like,

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing in Melbourne when I'm not there?

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, like it's always that like what are you

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>up to? Type of like feeling that you have inside and.

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I think which brings us back to number seven.

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Validation, which I got and it made it like a

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>very simipol process. And then obviously coming back to Melbourne

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and getting to see him like I missed him, and

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>we carried on with our relationship until it entered three

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>years later.

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>There you go where you want to be here?

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Would you?

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's talk about how to make a long distance

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>relationship work. Next.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we shouldn't be asking me about this, but

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 2>we've got some why not. He didn't make it work.

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 2>But that's the best bit. Ask someone that knows how

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>from their failure how to succeed, who's learned their lessons.

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Look, look, if you are going to enter into another

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>long term relationship in your life, then these could be

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>some good tips. The first one is to set the

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>ground rules, like we said before, setting boundaries, setting expectations

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and knowing where you both stand.

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Keep the communication as well regular and keep it interesting.

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 2>So like, but I do like you can just chat

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>all the time, like I reckon just always on the text.

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 2>It depends on the time difference as well. But yeah,

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you've got to make it work, and you've got to

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>find certain times that you can, you know, take some

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>times make FaceTime calls or when you can text. Like

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I think you both need to sacrifice something in your life.

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Like if that means if the time difference is when

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you normally would train, then if that's the time they

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>can talk, then you have to push your training back,

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>sacrifice something to make it work.

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting, like when you aren't like around

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>someone sending them photos of your day, like photos of

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>like maybe what you're eating, or photos of where you are,

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and it just makes them feel like a little bit

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>more a part of your life. I think that really helps.

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Even when my friends are like overseas, I love seeing

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>pictures of where they are. I'm like, send me photos,

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like I want to see the photos of where you are.

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I think also seeing it as an opportunity to test

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>your commitment to one another and to kind of like

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>strengthen your bond. Obviously, it's not ideal to be in

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a long distance relationship, like, no one's out there strive

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to be in a long distance relationship. It's it's a

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>shitty situation. No one really wants to be there. But

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess looking kind of at the bigger picture and

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of telling yourself, like, you know, i want that

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>person to feel fulfilled in their life, so I'm not

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>going to hold them back, And so we're doing this

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>for the greater good and if we are meant to be,

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>then it will be stronger. You can come out definitely stronger.

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Definitely come out stronger. Keep it flirty, like you know,

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>to keep the messages like you know, like fit dirty,

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>like you know, don't take it too seriously the whole time.

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, like you can FaceTime or send like, you know,

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>naughty photos to keep them excited. Like obviously you're not

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>physically with each other, but like you can still kind

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of like hit those spots of course.

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah there's like I said, phone sex, FaceTime sex, you

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>can really do whatever.

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, this one's an important one for me. And

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>this also comes down to like communication and just being

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>really aware of what you're doing whilst you're away from

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>your partner. So I guess not putting your partner in

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>anxious situations where they might see a photo of you

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>at a bar with you know, a person of the

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>opposite sex. It's attractive, you know, doing little things like

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>that where they go, what are they doing? Question mark

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>over your name? Like what's going on? Can I trust you?

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, planting seeds of doubt. So making sure that

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you're always reassuring your partner and always making them feel

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>super comfortable is you know the key to making this work.

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that would suck. You know, you're sitting

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 2>you're sitting at home on the time difference, and they're out.

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>In a bar twiddling your thumbs, being like all.

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 2>At work because of the time difference, You're sitting at

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 2>work and they're out getting drunk.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what's so funny is I had a friend

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>once because there's like a little bit off topic, but

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>also kind of on topic. She was like the FBI,

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>like to a t. She was like the best FBI

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>agent of all time in the land of anyway, all

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>women the point, but she went to like a whole

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>different level. So I remember once she had been on

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>like three dates with this guy and then he was

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 1>going to Bali and they had gotten along really well,

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>they'd had sex. She was really into him, he was

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>really into her, et cetera. And he basically said like,

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to hook up with anyone when I

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>go to Bali because I'm really into you. Blah blah

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. Anyway, he was at a restaurant in

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Bali and he tagged like a couple of people, and

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>what she did is she went through all of the

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 1>tagged people ended up finding because he had obviously like

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>shown everyone who he was with. So it was like

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>lots of people, probably like a group of like ten people,

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 1>most of them women. She had gone out of her

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>way from one or two tags to find every single

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>person who was at that dinner. She went to the

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>place that he had tagged, She went to their stories,

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.919
<v Speaker 1>looked to see people in the background, Like she went

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to like extreme length.

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 2>That's just three days.

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>And then and then he kind of went a bit

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>i A for like three hours or something during the night,

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and she got like a late night message. So she's

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like and then she's like, where has he been. He's

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 1>obviously been like you know, he was texting her flat

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>out like they were like.

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>They were on and man fell asleep.

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>No. And then so what she did is because she

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>had been able to identify every single person in the story,

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I know this. Yeah, she had found like a couple

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>of like the girls who she thought he was like

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>sitting close to slash for his type, and sent a

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>message on Instagram being like, Hey, I'm this person's girlfriend girlfriend.

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to, like an FBI agent, I just want.

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 1>To know if you guys hooked up, because like he's

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>been a bit sneaky in the past, and I just

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>like want to know from girl to girl. And then

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the girl was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I kissed him that night. I'm really sorry. I didn't

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>know he didn't tell me he had a girlfriend. He

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>technically didn't have a girlfriend, but he did say that

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't going to hook up with people. And she

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>is such an FBI agent that she found out. I'm like,

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, what, is it a bit crazy? Yes? Can

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I get around it?

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Because she called him out and like he fully lied,

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and like you can't lie to women, because we have

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a sixth sense.

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 2>You feel it in your waters and.

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 1>We can feel it in our bones and something's off.

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>She felt it, and she, you know, proceeded accordingly and

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>found out the truth.

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Good honor, Yeah, good honor. Has she called up the FBI.

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 2>She's going to Quanico next week. She's getting a job,

0:37:54.840 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>getting a job. She is detective on I on literally alright,

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>So back to our list. Make visits to see each

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 2>other as much as possible. So whenever you can get

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 2>a free weekend and you have obviously cash or you

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 2>can afford to go, go, Yeah, maybe find.

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Place even if it's for like two nights, Like just

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.760
<v Speaker 1>make the long trip or halfway.

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 2>You both go halfway, Yeah, both go halfway, and you

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 2>can meet there and then it's easier on both of you.

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>There's no Yeah, yeah, absolutely, try to enjoy the same activity.

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Is kind of like what you were saying with Mackenzie before,

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>watching the same TV show together, or watching a movie together,

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>reading the same book. I guess that way you can

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of connect on those things, discuss them with one another,

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 1>have a little chat going about a movie, and I

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>think that's really bonding.

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I agree. Have a planned end date. So obviously

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 2>when the borders aren't closed, you can't think of a

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 2>date when they keep just pushing it back, pushing it back,

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>So that's really kills the desire for it, like you

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, It just dampens the mood. But

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 2>if if you don't have an endset end date, because

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>that could be the end of the contract when they're

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>working in receipts or the end of their studying or

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>something like that.

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah, I think an end date is extremely important

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 1>so that you can feel like it's not just forever.

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Get a calendar count down the days or get one

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 2>on your phone and you can see how many days

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 2>are left, and it will make it a lot easier.

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>For you whilst they're away. Spend quality time with your

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>friends and family, time that you might not have had.

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's an important one. Surround yourself with people

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that love you, you know, get all the love, even although

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not that intimate love, it's still love.

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Keep on top of each other's schedules so you can

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.320
<v Speaker 2>understand where they'll be, why they're not talking to you.

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Not in a creepy way like your friend did, but

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>like you know, just like so, yeah, you can understand

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>why they're not talking to you, and then that could

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>save you from getting ch other'd beout. Okay they're in

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 2>a meeting, or Okay they're getting their hair done or

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 2>okay they're doing this, so you're not getting too frantic

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>and your anxiety levels aren't peaking.

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, make a time to video call as well. I

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>think video calling is I mean it feels face to

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>face right, Like you know, we talk to our podcast

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>team who are in Sydney and we feel like we

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>know them. I mean we've met most of them multiple times,

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>but we speak to them on a weekly basis on

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 1>FaceTime on FaceTime and it's very connecting and it's something

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that can really help if you are in a long

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>distance relationship and just make sure they're very frequent, like

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.280
<v Speaker 1>there's no need to not be facetiming your partner.

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Also, one is a boundaries, so like you've got to

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 2>set the boundaries as your partner. Obviously that means you

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 2>could like stay exclusive or also it could mean that

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 2>you have some sort of boundaries that help you guys

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 2>through it. Like you could be like, okay, like if

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 2>you really are desiring intimacy so much, you know, you

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 2>could have some monogamish relationship that you could figure out

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 2>between the two of you, if that's what boths you want.

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I guess like every relationship is different,

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and it wouldn't be right for us to not mention that,

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>like if yeah, if that's something, because you can't do

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>it just because we would absolutely hate that. Like even

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>hearing you say it, I was like, no.

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Kiss anyone out.

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like whatever works for you, guys, whatever is

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>going to keep the relationship alive, you know, whatever makes

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you feel comfortable. I think it's important to not do

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>anything like that because you think it's what your partner wants.

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I think set your own boundaries really, like dive deep

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>within yourself and figure out what you want and then

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>share that. I think gifting as well. Like you said before,

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't not put that one on there. Sending gifts

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 1>to the other person, making them feel really loved is

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>super important, and I think sentimental gifts are very cute,

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>especially from the place that you are.

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. Like you could send them like, yeah,

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 2>plush toy and hug it and then send it to.

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Them and say perfumed underwear maybe.

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you could transfer the hug through that that

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 2>plush toy. You could keep sending it back and forth

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 2>you have enough money hugging it and then send it

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 2>back the next day.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, man, let's talk about the benefit of a long

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:05.240
<v Speaker 1>distance relationship, but also the red flags to look out for. Next.

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so, there's a lot of pros to a long

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>distance relationship as well as cons. But let's touch on

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the pros first.

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, so. I think it really encourages you to

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>refine your emotional connection with your partner so much. At

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 1>the start of a relationship, or at least for the

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>first couple of years, it's very physical. You know, I

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>love being smothered with love and affection and touch, but

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>when that's taken away from you, You're forced to really

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:35.760
<v Speaker 1>develop that emotional connection.

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I agree, You've got to search you within yourself to

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 2>know that it's real. So it's a great way to

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>test the love and see if your feelings for one

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 2>another are actually real or it's not just that they're

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>in front of you and they're convenient I guess, or

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 2>the person that's in front of you that you're feeling towards. Yeah.

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I think it also makes you appreciate spending time

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>together when you actually do get to spend it with

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>one another. I mean the whole like them having to

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>leave and longing for them and like and there's the

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Yearney you put them on this massive pedestal and you're like,

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>all I want is just one kiss and one cuddle

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>from them. So I think getting to see them again

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 1>and also just like really embracing that excitement when you

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>do get to see them, and you know, just kind

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of like really like living in the highs and the

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>lows of what a long distance relationship brings.

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 2>My mate I was talking to a gym the other day.

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>He he's in a long distance one. He lives in

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Melbourne obviously with us, and his girlfriend lives in Sydney,

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>so they he loves it and he reckons he gets

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 2>so much time to himself. He can, like you know,

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 2>hanging out, find time for himself as well as when

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 2>he sees her, he's with her and they're spending that

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 2>time together and they're literally like quality time together, which

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I guess that his love language because he enjoys it

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And really like being able to learn to enjoy

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>your own company, and that's something that I struggled with

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I think I really only learned to enjoy

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>my own company when I moved into an apartment by myself,

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and then I started to really embrace that time. And

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I think you just don't understand how good it is

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 1>until there's literally no one around.

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 2>You get while you're in a relationship.

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Forget when you're in a relationship. You forget when you're

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>living with other people, when there's constantly people.

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Alone time was still good to get away from the

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 2>hustle and bustle of it all.

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Your house was very busy. I mean, imagine just being

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in your own home and doing what you want with it,

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like there's just nothing like it. So

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>really just like enjoying that alone time. It's so valuable

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think is something that not a lot of

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 1>people get in their life or will only get for

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:48.760
<v Speaker 1>a very short period of time.

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it also allows you to grow as an

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>individual and develop healthy relationship while being alone and enjoying

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>your own company.

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, absolutely and came out, let's talk about

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the red flags of being in a long dist relationship,

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 1>things that you might need to look out for if

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you are in a long distance relationship, if you're feeling

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a bit insecure, if you're feeling that deep jealousy and

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you aren't getting the reassurance that you need.

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 2>The first one would be you are the only one

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 2>initiating conversations. So that's rough i'd be for any relationship.

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah, that's any relationship. I would not be happy

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>about that.

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 2>What is it the expression we say nothing is louder

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 2>than words or something? What was it when they say nothing,

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 2>it's louder than if they oh.

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, like being ghosted. Yeah, Like

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>that's that's more of like a.

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 2>That's louder than if they were saying anything.

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Correct, I don't know what they're saying is.

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 2>If you guys remember it, let us know so the other.

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Day I cracked it at Michaels. I was like, you

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>have a message with me all day and he's like, Babe,

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>at nine am, I sent you three messages and you

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 1>haven't replied, and I was like, yeah, but like I

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 1>forgot about those, and then you didn't message you all

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>day and it's now three o'clock.

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 2>He had you sent messages in between.

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>No, and that's like the most that we hadn't spoken.

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>But he had sent me three messages at nine and

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I just thought you were busy, So I

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>just left you to it because you had a busy day.

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:17.720
<v Speaker 2>What a chilled life, not worry, what a blissful life

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>he lives. It is to get in your own head

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 2>for six hours, your partner not.

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Replying, So yeah, someone didn't reply to you for six hours,

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Like what the fuck?

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 2>You dead? Sending out to search fucking party.

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 1>We're very much in communication always, but I just like,

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I was so busy all day. And then

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>at like three o'clock I realized. I was like, oh,

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I haven't spoken to Michael all day, and I was like,

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>why haven't you called me?

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.280
<v Speaker 2>You thought you're busy. He was just living his flissful

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 2>life work.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Another red flag in a long distance relationship is

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that you feel like you're arguing a lot more than usual.

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing worse than conflict in a relationship.

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Right then, Yeah, but I think that would be for

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 2>the reasons are because it's long distance. Absolutely over if

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 2>you're arguing over those things and the boundaries you've set.

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when people aren't happy as well in the situation

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>that they're in, ie a long distance relationship, you can

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.760
<v Speaker 1>start really pulling people apart, you can pull things apart,

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you can get more grumpy, and I think when those

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>little arguments start to arise and become more frequent, it

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 1>really does make you feel like very on edge and

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Matt smiling because you've been in a lot of relationships

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>where there's lots of fights.

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because well I find that true. If you're not

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 2>happy of what's going on, you're going to pick arguments

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 2>about just random stuff because you're trying to, you know,

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 2>find places to to make it uneasy on each other

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 2>to end the relationship.

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>What about when the communication gets really stale, that's hard

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and there's just.

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Like it's hard to keep the conversation going. Well, that

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 2>would just be someone that's just not interested, and they're,

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 2>like I said before, you're initiating conversation, so you're the

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 2>one who's trying to keep it going. Take the hint

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>they're not interested.

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't actually think I've initiated a conversation more than

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 1>once in a row. And I don't think it's me

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>being toxic. I think it's just like I really like

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 1>things to be equal and it to be very give

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and take, and if I don't, if I feel like

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm giving too much, then I fully pull back.

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm the opposite. I would just yeah, I'm no shame

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:25.439
<v Speaker 2>of starting the conversation again if it's fizzled out.

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>See whereas I'm well obviously not with Michael, but like

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:32.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about like other previous relationships, like it would

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>always have to feel very like equal for me, Like

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I would not want to like be constantly like messaging

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.360
<v Speaker 1>them first. That would feel really like off to me.

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like we said, that means that if you're doing that,

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe they're just really shit at texting or they're just

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:47.760
<v Speaker 2>not interested.

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 1>And also when the conversation is hard to keep going,

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>like it's like, hey, okay, how are you?

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 2>If someone could just be really shit chat game. But

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 2>no one wants to date song with the shit chat game, you.

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean. Some people do, but if someone

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>has a shit chat game, it's kind of on you

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>to be like you need to up your your text message. Yeah,

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to tell them if you're not

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>happy with the way someone's texting, you need to be

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 1>like you need to up your text messages or if

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to then you need to call me,

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, on that, simulate me mentally on that.

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I looked across at my sister's phone. She was texting

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 2>her partner and don't out your What I said to

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:28.879
<v Speaker 2>her was, how funny is looking at other people's ship

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 2>chats with their partner their ship chat. I can't remember

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 2>exactly what it was. They were out for dinner and

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I think they were just saying like, oh, I'm having this,

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and he was just like, yeah, well I'm eating this.

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 2>It was just a real ship it's funny thing, like

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 2>we all do it.

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>We all.

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 2>We all do ship chats, but like it's funny watching

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 2>other people ship chats.

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, they rarely open up about their life outside

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of the relationship.

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Big red flag, huge red flag. Couldn't be any better

0:49:58.080 --> 0:49:58.399
<v Speaker 2>than that.

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You want to if you're with someone, you want to

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>know every different facet of their life, whether it be work,

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:08.399
<v Speaker 1>whether it be hobbies, friends, everything. If they're leaving all

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:09.800
<v Speaker 1>of that out, there's a problem.

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way if you if you've got

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a partner and they go out or something and they

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 2>very vague on the night or don't really want to

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 2>talk about it, and that's a red flag.

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 1>What about when your anxiety is just peaking before, during,

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 1>and after you're talking to them? That is a red

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:27.799
<v Speaker 1>flag if I've ever heard of one. Have you ever

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>been in a relationship where you're just anxious? Twenty four

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:31.359
<v Speaker 1>to seven.

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Lay that shall not be named, Yes, Lay you shall

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.959
<v Speaker 2>not be named. They that shall not be named. Yes,

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I did feel like that with her.

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, red flag, just a red flag.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 2>You don't know what you're going to get, what sort

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 2>of version of them you're going to get, how they're

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:46.879
<v Speaker 2>going to be acting that day.

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very anxious, red flag they got mission.

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they attempt to gaslight you?

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Exciting.

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that's very self explainatory.

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Spanish self explanatorue. You hate gas lighting, someone's doing it?

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that gets thrown around a bit though

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 2>at the moment it.

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Gets it gets thrown around a bit. But I think

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it's because it's very common. Yeah, it's very common. And

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean once you know what it is and you're

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>able to look out for it, you spot it quicker. Yeah, exactly,

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>you identify it, you bring it to the table, you

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>say this is not okay. I mean, gaslighting is an

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 1>extreme form of manipulation and no one should be getting

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 1>away with doing it. So I think it's good that

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:30.880
<v Speaker 1>people are more aware.

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've heard just my mates and stuff bring it

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>up a lot recently, like in different situations, and I'm like,

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 2>is it though, I was like, I don't know, Like

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I just don't feel like people use it in

0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the right context.

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I've heard someone explaining gaslighting. And it

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.480
<v Speaker 1>can't just be like a one time like of course,

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:50.360
<v Speaker 1>like a one time thing where someone does something you

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 1>feel it has to be like, you know, it's happened

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:53.839
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times.

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 2>You know where it comes from. Gaslighting. No, it's about

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 2>the It's so it's a story about a woman and

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 2>a guy who lived together and he kept turning the

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.880
<v Speaker 2>gas on the stove and then she would turn it

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 2>off and she said the gas on the stoves on

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, no, it's not. And then you keep

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 2>turning on sick to make her feel like she was

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 2>going crazy, and she'd go turn it off and she'd

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:14.439
<v Speaker 2>be like, yes it was. He's like, it's off.

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Look that scares the shit out of me.

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 2>That sliding comes from, so that it's a continuous You're

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:24.400
<v Speaker 2>continuous generously like making someone feel like they're crazy for

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:26.480
<v Speaker 2>feeling the way or believing what they believe. So whence

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 2>people say it one not feel like no, that's just

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 2>like when youflating someone or like but I'd.

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Be like, look at the lever, it's not straight.

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Then he'd just say, yes it is. Is it was off?

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I turned it off. You've turned it off before.

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Wild scenes and the last red flag is there seems

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 1>to be a lack of trust on both of your behalf.

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 1>This kind of takes us back to the seven stages

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>of entering into a long distance relationship and that doubt

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and the validation, And I think the best way to

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:57.760
<v Speaker 1>overcome that is just by validating your partner.

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I agree, just to let him feel about let us

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 2>feel heard acknowledge their feelings and just feel like that's

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the best way to go.

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Show them that they can trust you, you know what

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like FaceTime them, Introduce them to people wherever

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>you are, Like make them feel really comfortable with who

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you are surrounding yourself with as well.

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Get them to know people around you.

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, guys, if you are in a long distance relationship,

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.080
<v Speaker 1>we know that it's really hard. It's a really taxing,

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 1>stressful time. We're thinking of you. Keep going, keep making

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.919
<v Speaker 1>it work, and we're wishing you all of our luck.

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<v Speaker 2>We hope these help you and give you some advice.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do have any long distance relationship crazy stories,

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<v Speaker 1>send them into our hotline. We'd love to cover it

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<v Speaker 1>next week. It can be anything from a crazy gas lighting, cheating, cheating,

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<v Speaker 1>double timing, long distance relationship, partner going overseas.

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<v Speaker 2>That mate that I was telling about before, he's he

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<v Speaker 2>had a long distance relationship before. You must fucking love

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<v Speaker 2>him or something. He's so he went to meet her

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<v Speaker 2>in England and she had a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we want to hear it. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>story like that or similar to that, or anything in

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<v Speaker 1>between it. Send them to our hotline and we'll cover

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<v Speaker 1>it next week. Also, just a reminder for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who want to give us a review on Apple

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<v Speaker 2>Time five stars only please.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, until next time, say ya bye bye.