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Speaker 1: On scolds Ostrodia. This it's the Wader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panty Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight, we save the best the last with a

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Speaker 2: stellar lineup of guests, including Douglas Murray on those eco

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Speaker 2: terrorists who attack Stonehenge. State liberal leaders continue to distance

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Speaker 2: themselves from Peter Dutton's nuclear strategy.

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Speaker 3: I'll speak to Nick Kata about that.

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Speaker 2: Also joining me tonight Kosher Gator and Kinsey Schofield.

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Speaker 3: And we never forget left. He's losing it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to all the mavers of Congress and homewod Security Secretary.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now all the way from Budapest is Menzi's

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Speaker 2: Research Center, Senior Fellow and wizarding Fellow at the Danubes Institute,

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Speaker 2: Nick Kita, Nick, your title is getting longer and longer.

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Speaker 2: But let's art locally with state liberal leaders including John

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Speaker 2: Parsuto here in Victoria and David Chrisofulei in Queensland, who

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Speaker 2: are distancing themselves from the coalition's nuclear plan.

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Speaker 3: In Western Australia.

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Speaker 2: The Estate's liberal energy spokesman, Steve Thomas says there is

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Speaker 2: little community support in around the proposed site.

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Speaker 3: In Collie, also warning.

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Speaker 2: That a nuclear power plant would be too big for

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Speaker 2: the WA energy grid. In Queensland, the Liberal leader David

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Speaker 2: Chrysifolia said Peter Duttan's plans for two nuclear power plants

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Speaker 2: was not part of his plan for the state. And

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Speaker 2: in Victoria, the always happiest John Pursuito has said the

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Speaker 2: state Libs have no plans at this stage for nuclear energy.

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Speaker 2: So what do you make of this fracture within the

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Speaker 2: coalition and their nuclear strategy.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say the polite thing first, which is

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Speaker 4: obviously this is what we're to say. Obviously these men

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Speaker 4: have not been well briefed. But for goodness sake, where

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Speaker 4: have they been for the last two years with this

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Speaker 4: debate raging about nuclear They're just not across the facts.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this guy in Wa to say it Wa

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Speaker 4: is too small for a nuclear reactor, he's no idea

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Speaker 4: what he's talking about. I'm sorry to say, Rita, And

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Speaker 4: if you give me his phone number, I might ring

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Speaker 4: up and give him some of the facts, which is

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Speaker 4: small modular reactors actually work very well, and they work

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Speaker 4: very well in remote locations. Incidentally, so you can power

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Speaker 4: up Cartha or whatever you want to do, you know,

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Speaker 4: so they are perfect for remote areas. Otherwise you just

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Speaker 4: end up powering the North of Wa with diesel, which

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Speaker 4: is what they're doing right now. So has he got

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Speaker 4: a plan to change that or would he like to

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Speaker 4: actually take a briefing on small modular reactors as to

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Speaker 4: Christoph Foley, Christoph Fulou Sorry, it's you know, I mean

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Speaker 4: he's doing this sort of load target strategy. But low

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Speaker 4: target doesn't mean to say not standing up for the

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Speaker 4: only sensible solution for Queensland's electricity. So anyway, let's see

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Speaker 4: this play out at federal level first, And Peter Dutton,

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Speaker 4: I'll take my hat off to him for taking the

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Speaker 4: fight up to the government on this. We should have

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Speaker 4: done it twenty years ago, of course, but you know,

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Speaker 4: let's not cry over spilt milk.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've saw similar weakness incoherence from the state Liberal

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Speaker 2: leaders during the Voice campaign. Is the Liberal Party fundamentally

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Speaker 2: broken at the state level?

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Speaker 3: Not fit for purpose?

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Speaker 2: They certainly don't seem to represent the views of the

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Speaker 2: majority of their voters in the States, and you would

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Speaker 2: think labor has given them so much material to work

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Speaker 2: with here. Obviously, energy bills, cost of living are an

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Speaker 2: enormous issue for just about every Australian and labor have

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Speaker 2: gone straight into hysteric mode. Got ministers posting pictures of

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Speaker 2: koalas with three eyes and three eyed fish and just

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Speaker 2: trying to scare the electorate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, I just think they are not well briefed and

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Speaker 4: they lack courage, and a combination of the two really

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Speaker 4: reta because you know, I mean in South Australia, for instance,

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Speaker 4: I'd be going out there as the opposition to say

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Speaker 4: we're going to make this state self sufficient and electricity

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Speaker 4: like we used to be when we had industry running here.

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Speaker 4: You know, we won't have to go begging and borrowing

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Speaker 4: dirty coal from from Victoria. That's what they should do.

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Speaker 4: You know, they should actually come out with the positive

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Speaker 4: South Australia first message. They could do it in Wa.

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Speaker 4: You know, the minister's or the assistant the opposition spokesman

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Speaker 4: is right that Wa is not connected to any other grid,

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Speaker 4: which is a double reason why they need to be

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Speaker 4: self sufficient in electricity. They're heading the same route as Island.

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Speaker 4: By the way, it's got the second heaviest electacity builds

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Speaker 4: in Europe because they rely on wind and gas now

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Speaker 4: that seems to be WA's plan. It's not a functional plan.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Now let's talk about the ABC.

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Speaker 2: The new chair, Kim Williams has given an impassioned speech

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Speaker 2: about the importance of the public broadcast and the threats

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Speaker 2: face from social media and artificial intelligence, and Nick, you

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Speaker 2: won't be surprised he wants a funding boost.

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Speaker 3: What did you make of his speech?

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Speaker 4: Is classic public service, isn't it. We're going to have

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Speaker 4: a review into the effectiveness of X or y organization,

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Speaker 4: in this case the National Broadcaster, but we're going to

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Speaker 4: need more money. I mean, don't you actually don't you

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Speaker 4: actually make that decision when you've looked at the effectiveness

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Speaker 4: where you look at whether whether it is value for

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Speaker 4: money first before you just say well we're going to

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Speaker 4: have to put more money into it. And they're just

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Speaker 4: so featherbedied at the ABC. I've got some experiences as

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Speaker 4: you have. I mean, I'm standing here in the middle

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Speaker 4: of Hungary on a shoe string because you can do

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Speaker 4: it these days. Television is getting cheaper, not more expensive,

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Speaker 4: So you know, this is just a you know, what

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Speaker 4: looks like a sensible thing. Let's actually look about what

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Speaker 4: we value. We get from the ABC just turned into

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Speaker 4: a money grab Nick, You're right.

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Speaker 3: They don't exist in the real world. Every other media organization.

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Speaker 2: Has had to tighten their belts, but not the ABC.

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Speaker 2: That billion dollar and your budget just keeps going up

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Speaker 2: and up. Now, let's talk about the NDIS. You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about budget blowouts. A self described non binary,

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Speaker 2: disabled and mentally ill NDIS claimant has revealed some of

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Speaker 2: his grievances about the funding that he's receiving through the NDIS.

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Speaker 2: He complains that it won't cover a dishwasher or a dryer,

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Speaker 2: but the NDIS is happy to pay for people to

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Speaker 2: come to his residence to do his laundry and washing.

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Speaker 3: Have a look.

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Speaker 6: The NDIS is so happy to pay like one hundreds,

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Speaker 6: like four or five, six hundred dollars a week for

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Speaker 6: you to have a support worker to come in to

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Speaker 6: help you do your dishes and do your laundry, but

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Speaker 6: they will not fund a dryer or a dishwasher, which

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Speaker 6: is cheaper in the long run and also promotes independence

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Speaker 6: for the participant because then they don't have to rely

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Speaker 6: on support workers coming to their house and helping them

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Speaker 6: do their dishes. They just have a dishwasher that they

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Speaker 6: can start themselves.

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Speaker 3: Nick, He's got a point there.

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Speaker 2: The waste and misuse of public money in the NDIS

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Speaker 2: is out of control. It's out of control by billions

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Speaker 2: of dollars. But that's just a small case for one

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Speaker 2: individual of what they're doing, and it's not even what

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Speaker 2: the client there wants. You'd rather have a dishwasher so

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Speaker 2: he can do his own dishes, but they send someone

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Speaker 2: to his house to do the dishes for him, which.

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Speaker 3: Costs us a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, well less, it's where the NDIS has completely

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Speaker 4: gone off purpose. I mean, I know two NDIS cases,

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Speaker 4: and I know how these cares work. What they should

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Speaker 4: be doing is going in and teaching the person self sufficient,

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Speaker 4: you know, show them how to wash dishes. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this guy can operate TikTok for goodness sake, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty certain he can wash his own dishes. So

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Speaker 4: you know, that's what they should be doing. But instead

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Speaker 4: it's like extended child minding on the taxpayer's bill. And

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Speaker 4: the people that provide these services, of course, they have

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Speaker 4: no interest in making improving anybody's condition and making them

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Speaker 4: more able, because that will take the money away. From

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Speaker 4: going and servicing their disability. The whole system is the

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Speaker 4: topsy turvy and badly thought out. Frankly, I think the

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Speaker 4: only way to do it is to abolish it and

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Speaker 4: start again, but I don't think that's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: What I would like to see is is more action

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Speaker 4: from Bill Shorten on this, the Labor government really stepping

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Speaker 4: in to fix up the system that it produced, which

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Speaker 4: is just badly off.

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Speaker 2: Beam Kita, thank you so much for your time. Joining

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Speaker 2: me now, fresh from his triumph at the Monk debate

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Speaker 2: on anti Zionism, is the great Douglas Murray, author of

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Speaker 2: best selling works, including his latest.

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Speaker 3: The War on the West.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the debate Douglas and whether anti Zionism

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Speaker 2: is synonymous with anti Semitism, but first let's start in

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Speaker 2: the UK. With the latest UGUF poll showing Labor on

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Speaker 2: course for the biggest landslide in one hundred years, The

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Speaker 2: Times reports Labor is on track to win the biggest

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Speaker 2: majority of any party in a century. With the Toy's

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Speaker 2: hemorrhaging support to Nigel Faraja's reform and the Liberal Democrats,

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Speaker 2: one can understand why the British public is thoroughly sick

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Speaker 2: of the Tories and they're broken promises. But what sort

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Speaker 2: of UK are we going to see under Labor, which

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Speaker 2: is hardly a moderate or centrist party nowadays.

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Speaker 7: Well it's a very interesting question. The answer is really

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Speaker 7: nobody knows, rita because the Labor Party, the leadership has

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Speaker 7: been fantastically good in recent months of not telling us

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Speaker 7: really anything that it's planning to do. It's doing the

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Speaker 7: usual thing of saying that they're going to put the

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Speaker 7: NHS and pour more money into it, they're going to

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Speaker 7: make schools even better than they are, they're going to

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Speaker 7: raise everyone as living standards and all the usual things.

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Speaker 7: And as I always say, these things are pointless to

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Speaker 7: would like to lower living standards. Nobody says we'd like

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Speaker 7: to make education worse. This is the kind of pabulum

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Speaker 7: we all have to tolerate in election season.

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Speaker 3: But the really.

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Speaker 7: Interesting thing is, of course, is that the Labor Party

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Speaker 7: has been wise enough not to tell us how it's

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Speaker 7: going to pay for any of this, and that's because

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Speaker 7: there's really only one way they will be able to

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Speaker 7: pay for it, which is to raise taxes, and they

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Speaker 7: know that you cannot say in your manifesto that's why

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Speaker 7: we're going to have to raise taxes. So all they're

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Speaker 7: doing is waiting until they are in office and then

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Speaker 7: we'll discover what they really intend to do. It's a

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Speaker 7: pretty shocking situation actually, I mean the Tories only have

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Speaker 7: themselves to blame, as you say, but they're hemorrhaging votes

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Speaker 7: in every direction. So Conservative voters will be voting for

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Speaker 7: the more moderate than Jeremy Corbyn Labor Party, Others will

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Speaker 7: be staying at home. Others will be voting for the

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Speaker 7: Liberal Democrats because they can always sponge votes off other people,

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Speaker 7: because they're even more of a Blair as a party

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Speaker 7: than Labor is trying to be. And of course they're

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Speaker 7: losing votes to Nigel Farage's Reform. It's an absolute cluster

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Speaker 7: for the Conservatives and a couple of polls this week

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Speaker 7: show them actually getting behind Nigel Farage's Reform Party in

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Speaker 7: the polls. And as you say, I mean not only

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Speaker 7: wipe out for the Conservative Party, but such a historic

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Speaker 7: majority for any party, let alone the Labor Party that

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Speaker 7: basically kers Starm will be able to do whatever he

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Speaker 7: wants in the next five years.

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Speaker 2: Labor from the top down over the recent years have

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Speaker 2: embraced just about every new Marxist folly, from taking new

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Speaker 2: for BLM remember that, to pushing the most extremes of transactivism.

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Speaker 2: And that's the problem, it seems both sides of politics,

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Speaker 7: Would that the politicians did listen to focus groups. They don't.

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Speaker 7: They listen to a few deranged herodins on their own

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Speaker 2: Now, you were involved in the Monk debate in Toronto

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Speaker 7: And there is no law of war that says you're

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Speaker 2: Douglas, tell me why you believe anti Zionism is anti Semitism.

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Speaker 7: I say it's obvious that in all of history, anti

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Speaker 7: many other examples this. I gave examples in Canada, in

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Speaker 2: Can watch that full debate online. I would encourage you

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Speaker 3: And I have to take you back to Kirs.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that is coming up over and

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Speaker 3: Here you go, Douglas.

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Speaker 7: these I make extremists. We'll see.

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Speaker 3: Now before you go overnight.

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Speaker 2: We saw the climate cultists of just Stop Oil attack Stonehenge.

437
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Speaker 2: Their demented demands include Britain's next government committing legally to

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Speaker 2: phasing out fossil fuels by twenty thirty. Let's have a

439
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Speaker 2: quick look. We can see their bystandards. Women getting involved

440
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Speaker 2: trying to stop that attack. What sort of punishment is

441
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Speaker 2: appropriate when political activists attack and vandalize a prehistoric monument.

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Speaker 7: You know, this has been an escalation. I write about

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Speaker 7: this in my Spectator column this week. There's been an

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Speaker 7: escalation of this for some time now. All of these

445
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Speaker 7: eco loons thought that it was okay to throw suit

446
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Speaker 7: at a masterpiece by Van Goch. Earlier this year, a

447
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Speaker 7: horrible young woman slashed and sprayed a graffiti over portrait

448
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Speaker 7: by the great Hungarian Jewish painter Philip d'laslow, and there'd

449
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Speaker 7: been no punishment of her because she said she did

450
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Speaker 7: it for Palestine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Right, And now we see these ekoloons attacking one of

453
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Speaker 7: Britain's most important archaeological sites. It really tells you everything

454
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 7: you need to know about a movement when in order

455
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Speaker 7: to save the planet, as they pretend they want to do,

456
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Speaker 7: they destroy the planet. I don't believe these people are

457
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Speaker 7: driven by anything other than narcissism, boredom, extremism, and a

458
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Speaker 7: couple of other such things. They are vicious narcissists, and

459
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Speaker 7: they're desperately seeking for some kind of cause, and they

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Speaker 7: are trashing our history, and they're trashing our our holy

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Speaker 7: places and our places of learning and culture, and they're

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Speaker 7: getting away with it. And as far as I believe,

463
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Speaker 7: I think they should all be thrown in prison for

464
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Speaker 7: as long as it can be, and any of these

465
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Speaker 7: other people who want to try these tricks should go

466
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Speaker 7: to prison following them.

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Speaker 2: We need just the law to be enforced in one

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Speaker 2: of these cases, and I think we would see a

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Speaker 2: change in behavior. Douglas Murray, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: your time, this.

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Speaker 7: Evening pleasure as always.

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Speaker 3: Thank you still to come.

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Speaker 2: Lefties Losing It and Kosher Gaeta on why the access

474
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Speaker 2: of evil is becoming stronger.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

476
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Speaker 2: Now it's time for lefties losing it and it's time.

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Speaker 3: Again to check on the leader of the free world.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to all the matters of Congress and Homewood Security Secretary.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

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00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: Oh, he's fine, he's fine. Nothing to see there.

481
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: Any talk of cognitive decline is just a right wing conspiracy.

482
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Speaker 3: Do not believe your lying eyes.

483
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Speaker 2: Now to Democrat congresswoman and Squad member Corey Bush is

484
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: something else, not just say far left tippogrid, but she

485
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: has magical powers. She can make tumors disappear with her

486
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Speaker 2: mere touch.

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Speaker 8: And this lady came to us and she had these tumors.

488
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Speaker 8: I mean, she wanted us to feel them, and I

489
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Speaker 8: just remember I put my hand on her, and my

490
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Speaker 8: hand just began to move and the lumps that were

491
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Speaker 8: there were no longer there. And she was so happy,

492
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Speaker 8: and she went on about her day and I never

493
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Speaker 8: saw her again.

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Speaker 9: So you think the tumors disappeared.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 10: I do.

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Speaker 8: And this woman was unhoused. She's someone who you know,

498
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Speaker 8: had been sleeping in the shelters and sleeping on the street.

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't know what's worse, the insane claims of

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Speaker 2: that lefty or the manner in which the PBS journalist

501
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: Margaret Hoover uncritically accepts this lunacy and respectfully asks some

502
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Speaker 2: follow up questions.

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Speaker 9: As a trained nurse, you're a member of the medical community,

504
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 9: how do you think about those spiritual healings versus medical healings?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, spiritual healing is a part of what you believe,

506
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 8: you know, and the medical healing is it's a similar thing.

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Speaker 9: What do you say to people who are likely to

508
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Speaker 9: disbelieve that story?

509
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Speaker 8: You know, they're not the women that had the tools.

510
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Speaker 2: Now, imagine all the interviewer's reaction and the media's reaction

511
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: would have been if a Republican had made such claims.

512
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Speaker 2: Time to look at a young woman who comes to

513
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Speaker 2: the realization that she has a striking resemblance to Tucker Carlson,

514
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: but she remains steadfastly in denial about just how strong

515
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Speaker 2: that resemblance is.

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Speaker 11: This is adorable, being a well established gay I never

517
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Speaker 11: imagined myself on the side of TikTok that thinks I

518
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Speaker 11: look like Tucker Carlson, But here we are, and I

519
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 11: gotta be honest. I know of this man, but I

520
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 11: could not pick him out of Elena. So I'm gonna

521
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 11: google him and we're gonna see if you guys are

522
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Speaker 11: onto something or not.

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Speaker 3: What this man?

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Speaker 12: Is it?

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Speaker 11: The twinning forehead wrinkles?

526
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Speaker 3: Oh wait, is it the teeth?

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Speaker 11: I can see it in the teeth a little bit,

528
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Speaker 11: but that's really it.

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Speaker 3: Denial.

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Speaker 2: Ain't just a river in Egypt, lady, You are the

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Speaker 2: spitting image of Tucker.

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Speaker 3: How are you not seeing it?

533
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Speaker 2: Time now to check in on the Gaze four Palestine movement,

534
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: who still haven't worked out that their activism is not

535
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: just suicidally stupid but offensive to many Palestinians. There are

536
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: no pride rallies in Gaza, Palestine. Now to a transactivist

537
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: who is dressed up as Miss Rachel, who is a

538
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Speaker 2: toddler content creator, and he has this message for the

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Speaker 2: young uns.

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Speaker 13: Hi friends. Today we're going to talk about something super important,

541
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Speaker 13: what it means to be transgender. It's a big word,

542
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Speaker 13: but I promise that it's easy to understand.

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Speaker 3: Ready to learn.

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Speaker 13: The first thing I want you to do is close

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Speaker 13: your eyes. Now think do you feel like a boy,

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Speaker 13: a girl, or a little bit of both? Do you

547
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Speaker 13: have your answer? Great? Now, I want you to imagine

548
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 13: that everyone keeps telling you that you're something else, even

549
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 13: though in your heart you know who you are. Wouldn't

550
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Speaker 13: that make you sad inside? People who feel like this

551
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Speaker 13: are transgender?

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Speaker 3: Just a reminder.

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Speaker 2: The creator he's dressed up as the one who is imitating,

554
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Speaker 2: has a preschool audience toddlers and kids around.

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Speaker 3: Four to five years of age.

556
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Speaker 2: Can we just leave them alone to be kids and

557
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Speaker 2: not indoctrinate them with radical gender theory?

558
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Speaker 13: Apparently not one day you noticed that theo starts wearing

559
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Speaker 13: girl clothes instead of boy clothes, and then they tell

560
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Speaker 13: you that they want to be called Luna instead of THEO.

561
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 13: This is so exciting for our friend Luna because they

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Speaker 13: finally get to be their true self. And if you

563
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 13: accidentally call Luna by their old name, make sure to

564
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Speaker 13: say a big sorry and that you'll do better next time.

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Speaker 2: Now, we see a lot of filth, dangerous disinformation, and

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Speaker 2: indoctrination on TikTok, and the CCP aligned owners are quite

567
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Speaker 2: happy for that content to be on their site. So

568
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Speaker 2: what video was so terrible, so violent or harmful that

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Speaker 2: TikTok banded for violating community guidelines? Brace yourself, folks, because

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Speaker 2: I'm going to play it for you.

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Speaker 5: If you think girls and women's equality matter, stand up.

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Speaker 5: If girls and women's sports matter and you want your

573
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 5: daughters to have the same opportunity you had, stand up.

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Speaker 3: If you know that it isn't.

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Speaker 5: Fair or see to allow males to compete in girls

576
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 5: sports because it's well obvious, stand up.

577
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Speaker 3: Don't be called by people who call you a bigot.

578
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: You're not a big.

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Speaker 5: Don't let men tell us how to be good girls.

580
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 5: Don't let others tell you you just need to be quiet,

581
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Speaker 5: sit down, be nice.

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Speaker 3: It's not nice to further.

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Speaker 11: Alive it's not mean to believe in women to quality.

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Speaker 3: We deserve our own sports, privacy, fairness, see few.

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00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 5: We deserve a chance to compete and win.

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Speaker 10: So don't be nice, don't be character be honest, be brief,

587
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 10: fight for women.

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Speaker 3: We've come too far to give up now.

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Speaker 5: And if you agree with that, stand up and stand

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Speaker 5: with us.

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Speaker 2: That was a commercial for xx X Y Athletics. They

592
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Speaker 2: say they're the only athletic brand that stands up for

593
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Speaker 2: women's sport. But young girls speaking about keeping malbodies out.

594
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Speaker 3: Of their sport is apparently too much for TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Kosher Gata Kosher.

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Speaker 2: Why would TikTok ban that ad? Why would they deem

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Speaker 2: it a breach of the community guidelines?

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Speaker 12: Such a great flashpoint about this moment where we are

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Speaker 12: in the culture right now. I know in this case

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Speaker 12: had happened to be TikTok, as we know most of

601
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Speaker 12: all the other platforms are not infallible, from the COVID

602
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 12: fiasco to Hunter Biden's laptop and the rest of it.

603
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 12: All sorts of things it shouldn't be banned are banned,

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Speaker 12: with the exception of maybe Twitter. After Musk acquired it,

605
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 12: and I would say TikTok's loss is Twitter's gained because

606
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 12: all sorts of people are retweeting this at over there

607
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 12: and the founder of this clothing line who started it,

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Speaker 12: I think earlier this year as a slap back on

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Speaker 12: this whole cultural issue that we're dealing with, the trans thing.

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Speaker 12: We'll get a lot of airplay and retweets from it,

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Speaker 12: hopefully outside of TikTok. I think the whole world is

612
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 12: just in these two buckets right now, and this issue

613
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Speaker 12: is coming to a head. Where there's the bucket of

614
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Speaker 12: people that are continuing to propagate this agenda and Title

615
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Speaker 12: nine has been repealed, and all the cowards that don't

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Speaker 12: speak up, and then you've got the other bucket with

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Speaker 12: the JK. Rowlings and Megan Kelly's and Riley Gaineses of

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Speaker 12: the world.

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Speaker 3: And we'll see where it owns well.

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Speaker 2: The in one bucket, you've got the majority, it seems,

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Speaker 2: of the population, and then the other you've got all

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Speaker 2: the influence, You've got the celebrity world, you've got most

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Speaker 2: of the media, you've got the institutions, And that's where

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Speaker 2: I think this is going to really come to a head.

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00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Now Russian President Vladimir Putin is in North Korea and

626
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Speaker 2: he has gifted despot leader Kim Jong un a Russian

627
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Speaker 2: made limousine. He's also given him a dagger and a

628
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Speaker 2: tea set, a wide variety of gifts there. Kim is

629
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: apparently a massive car enthusiast and was beaming as he

630
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: jumped in behind the wheel, and he had Putin sitting

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Speaker 2: there in the passenger seat.

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Speaker 3: Kim has also had gifts for Putin.

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Speaker 2: Including artwork. Now to the series Matches Kosher. We have

634
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Speaker 2: seen Russia, North Korea, Iran, the entire access of evil

635
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: become emboldened in recent years. And how much of that

636
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Speaker 2: can you blame on the Biden administration and its weakness

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Speaker 2: And often it's just incoherent positions.

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Speaker 10: I think it's a big part of it.

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Speaker 12: And many people, including the many Trump heaters, knowledge that

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00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 12: nothing happened in the previous four years, and it's not

641
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Speaker 12: hard to conceive that it probably wouldn't have happened. They've

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00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 12: seen the weakness of the current leadership, they saw how

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Speaker 12: the withdrawal from Afghanistan went. All those things play into

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Speaker 12: the calculus of these countries and leaders for sure. But

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Speaker 12: I also think it is bigger than Biden and the

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Speaker 12: current administration, where all of these things are predictable consequences,

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Speaker 12: tough as they may be, from foreign policy for thirty

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Speaker 12: to forty years of just how things have been going,

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Speaker 12: and if with the West, you know, with NATO's expansion

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Speaker 12: and then Russia getting embolded and taking over Crimea before

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Speaker 12: and now this, you are going to see these kinds

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Speaker 12: of maneuvers happen. And the more we continue along the

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Speaker 12: current course, it's not surprising to see these other alliances forming.

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Speaker 12: And then I think the car and the dagger and

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Speaker 12: all that is just stagecraft, and it feels almost like

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Speaker 12: Putin is kind of trolling the world a little bit

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Speaker 12: by doing that and saying, hey, I've got moves up

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Speaker 12: my sleeve too. Here's one.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've effectively buying off a leader with a

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Speaker 2: tasset and I don't know it also gave you my limousine.

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Speaker 3: But these two have entity to a new agreement.

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Speaker 2: North Korean state media is reporting that this new agreement

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Speaker 2: between Russia and North Korea requires both countries to use

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Speaker 2: all available means to provide immediate military.

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Speaker 3: Assistance in the event of a war. Now that is

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Speaker 3: a worry.

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Speaker 2: If that is accurate, then Russia is obliged with its

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Speaker 2: nuclear weapons to come to the aid of North Korea

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Speaker 2: and vice versa.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the serious stuff. And many see that North

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Speaker 12: Korea in some ways is a proxy state of China unofficially,

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Speaker 12: and so this move is really a proxy to the

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Speaker 12: other move of them getting closer. And we see that

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Speaker 12: economically and militarily. Even the officially China's position has been

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Speaker 12: the sort of non intervention and not taking aside in

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Speaker 12: this conflict. You will see more of that, and that's

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Speaker 12: sort of the point about the expected consequences, and we

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Speaker 12: would hope that Western leadership is aware of all those

679
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Speaker 12: moves and countermoves and is factoring that in. But unfortunately,

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Speaker 12: I think a lot of people don't have faith that

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Speaker 12: that's necessarily the case either.

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Speaker 2: Russians say they're waiting on a response from the Biden

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Speaker 2: administration for a possible prisoner exchange, which could see US

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Speaker 2: citizens detained in Russia, including Wall Street journal reporter Evan

685
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Speaker 2: gershakovicha come back to their home countries. Russian prosecutors just

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Speaker 2: last week approved an indictment accusing the journalist of ESPN

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Speaker 2: R j claimed that he the Wall Street Journal, the

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Speaker 2: government vehemently deny what is holding up this process?

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Speaker 3: Kosher?

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Speaker 2: Are the Russian demands likely to be so outrageous that

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Speaker 2: the White House can't accept them?

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Speaker 12: It's a great question. This is I think I'm going

693
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Speaker 12: to bring this to a head as well about how

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Speaker 12: much of a concession is a fair concession. And there's

695
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Speaker 12: so much of a disconnect and lack of consensus domestically

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Speaker 12: within the US around this. So you know, if there's

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Speaker 12: a we don't know obviously all the machinesians and what

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Speaker 12: the ask is behind the scenes, but if Putn is

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Speaker 12: linking it to some sort of agreement of a piece

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Speaker 12: settlement with Ukraine, which would include Ukraine seeding some territory

701
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Speaker 12: to Russia, that's going to be an issue because domestically

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Speaker 12: there's absolutely not alignment on that. There are those who

703
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Speaker 12: say that's real life and you've got to accept it

704
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Speaker 12: and move on and end this war, and there are

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Speaker 12: those who say, absolutely not, We're not going to sede

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Speaker 12: to that. And unfortunately, this hosted situation and Evan sadly

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Speaker 12: becomes I don't want to say a pond, but sort

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Speaker 12: of a pond in that chessboard. And that's just the real,

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Speaker 12: hrsh unfortunate reality.

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Speaker 2: Of it, because the White House has been willing to

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Speaker 2: be generous, if you could say, they've released monstrous mass

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Speaker 2: killers in these prisoner exchanges, so they have been willing

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Speaker 2: to release people they really shouldn't release to get their

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Speaker 2: citizens back. But it'll be interesting to see how these results.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope Evan is back home soon. Koshigata, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for your time. Pleasure still to come, Kinseys

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Speaker 2: goof with the latest world and celebrity news, including Megan

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Speaker 2: Markle getting a harsh chair welcome back. Joining me now

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Speaker 2: is Royal and entertainment reporter Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about this new biography looking into the Beckhams, and it

721
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Speaker 2: makes claims about Meghan Markle deluding herself into thinking she

722
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Speaker 2: was of a higher social rank than the famous couple

723
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Speaker 2: and was irritated to learn the truth. She even asked

724
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Speaker 2: Victoria Beckham to give her free bags and shoes with

725
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Speaker 2: their relationship now frosty, despite the fact that the Beckhams

726
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Speaker 2: did attend the royal wedding.

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Speaker 3: What more can you tell me about this?

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Speaker 14: Oh my gosh, And this is Tom Bauer, who's such

729
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Speaker 14: an incredible author, wrote Revenge, that amazing Harry and Meghan book,

730
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Speaker 14: where in that book he specifically says Harry accues David Beckham.

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Speaker 14: He said, is Victory leaking stories about Megan? How are

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Speaker 14: people finding out where Megan Markle is getting.

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Speaker 10: Her hair done?

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Speaker 14: And it turned out it wasn't Victoria leaking stories, it

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Speaker 14: was the girl at the front desk at the hair salon,

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Speaker 14: and when that created this huge rift between the couple.

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Speaker 14: And now Bower's going even further and saying that Megan

738
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Speaker 14: had an attitude towards posh because she felt like there

739
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Speaker 14: was a hierarchy. She was marrying a prince, and the

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Speaker 14: reality was that David and Victoria are incredibly important because financially,

741
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Speaker 14: these two have created a nice nest egg for themselves.

742
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Speaker 14: They're both entrepreneurs, they both keep very busy, and they

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Speaker 14: actually do a lot of work, which is something that

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Speaker 14: you and I both know Meghan is not familiar with.

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Speaker 3: That is very true.

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Speaker 2: Now, Kevin Kolsna has revealed that Prince William once told

747
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Speaker 2: him that his mom, Princess Diana, of course fancied the actor.

748
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Speaker 2: Apparently he had met Diana to discuss co starring in

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Speaker 2: a never made seek cool to his nineteen ninety two

750
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Speaker 2: hit The Bodyguard, and that that would have been some

751
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Speaker 2: film if it featured Diana. My gosh, that is a

752
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Speaker 2: cute story.

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Speaker 14: It is, but it actually started out with a little

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Speaker 14: bit of tension because he tells Howard Stern in this

755
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Speaker 14: interview that the Royal family accused him of lying and

756
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Speaker 14: he felt attacked by the men in gray suits. So

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Speaker 14: he actually picked up the phone and.

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Speaker 10: Called Fergie, the Duchess of York, and said, help me out.

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Speaker 14: Who do I contact? They're calling me a liar. I

760
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 14: don't like the negative attention. So he felt a bit

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Speaker 14: attacked by the Royal family, and then Prince William reached

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Speaker 14: out to meet him when he was at school and said,

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Speaker 14: you know, my mom had a little bit of a

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Speaker 14: crush on you, which smoothed everything over. But get in line,

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Speaker 14: Princess Diana. Kevin Costner is still a hunk.

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Speaker 2: Never been my type, but good for you, Kinsey to

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Speaker 2: talk about justin Timberlake.

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Speaker 3: He's had a bit of a rough patch.

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Speaker 2: I've had some of his dance moves being why mocked

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Speaker 2: on social media, saying he dances like a dad these days.

771
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Speaker 2: And now his mug shot has been beamed across the

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Speaker 2: world after he was arrested for drink driving in the Hamptons.

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Speaker 2: Just how drunk was he because the reports that he

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Speaker 2: was wasted.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, that's a good question, and his attorney

776
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Speaker 14: is saying that he's going to fight this. He refused

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Speaker 14: to take a breathalyzer test, but he did have to,

778
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Speaker 14: you know, walk the line. But you're absolutely right about

779
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Speaker 14: him struggling. His concert sales have been kind of in

780
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Speaker 14: the dumps lately. We're assuming that is based on the

781
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Speaker 14: real shift during the me too era of people attacking

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Speaker 14: him for not being taken down a notch. After the

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Speaker 14: Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident, all of the negative attention

784
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Speaker 14: was on Janet Jackson. Then Brittany came out with all

785
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Speaker 14: of her revelations in her books, saying that he insisted

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Speaker 14: she have an abortion.

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Speaker 10: He was caught allegedly cheating.

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Speaker 14: In New Orleans with a co star. That did not

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Speaker 14: reflect well on him. And so then he releases this

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Speaker 14: new music. It doesn't do great starts trying to tour,

791
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Speaker 14: you know, tours not selling very well, and now you're

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Speaker 14: seeing this, I have a lot of sympathy for him.

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Speaker 14: But I also can't I can't understand Gail King going

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Speaker 14: on TV defending somebody driving over the influence. Yes, I

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Speaker 14: loved this guy growing up, but you should never get

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Speaker 14: behind the wheel of a car after consuming alcohol.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, he knows better.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's not that there's ever an excuse, but

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Speaker 2: he's hardly some dumb teenager.

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Speaker 6: That is.

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Speaker 2: You'll be interesting to see just how much over he

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Speaker 2: was over the legal limit. Now you're coming to us

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Speaker 2: from London, where you've recently attended Royal Ascot. Prince William

804
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Speaker 2: was there with his mother in law, Carol Middleton. What

805
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Speaker 2: is the latest on Princess Catherine and her cancer battle?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely well. I saw Catherine at trooping in line at

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Speaker 10: six am, rain pouring all down on me.

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Speaker 14: I felt like she looked absolutely amazing, and I do

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Speaker 14: just even the way that the children were engaging with

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Speaker 14: each other. It was very uplifting to see that they

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Speaker 14: were in high spirits. It makes you feel like if

812
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Speaker 14: they're in a good mood, perhaps everything's going well at home.

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Speaker 14: I think this is another great indication that things are improving.

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Speaker 14: For Prince William to show up with his mother and

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Speaker 14: father in law. He was holding Carroll Middleton's hand. It

816
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 14: was very beautiful and I just think that maybe we

817
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Speaker 14: are on the right path, on a good path. We

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Speaker 14: heard from her last week saying she's not in the

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Speaker 14: clear yet, good days and bad days, but we've seen

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Speaker 14: her recently. The kids look like they are, you know,

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Speaker 14: just blissfully joyful. And then to see her mother out

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Speaker 14: and about for the first time since our cancer diagnosis,

823
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Speaker 14: laughing in good spirits with the family. I really think

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Speaker 14: that this is a good indication of what's going on

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Speaker 14: behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: We missed you earlier in the wake, but we did

827
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Speaker 2: have a whole thing on Louis because you know, Louise

828
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Speaker 2: is my favorite royal.

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Speaker 3: I want him to be king already.

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Speaker 2: And his performance at the trooping was adorable.

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Speaker 3: He was just his.

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Speaker 2: Usual naughty Louis and he was not taking any directions

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Speaker 2: from his mum or his big sister.

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Speaker 3: Now, this story is going to get people fired up.

835
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Speaker 2: NFL legend Bill Belichick has a new girlfriend who is

836
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Speaker 2: forty eight years his junior. The former New England Patriots

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Speaker 2: coach he's seventy two now, met his twenty four year

838
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Speaker 2: old girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, a former cheerleader on a plane

839
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Speaker 2: he was spotted at a cheerleading competition in Maryland to

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Speaker 2: support her.

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Speaker 3: Now they're two.

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Speaker 2: Consenting adult soul admit that, Kinsey, but the age difference,

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Speaker 2: he I mean, is there seventy two year old dating

844
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Speaker 2: a twenty four year old?

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Speaker 14: Ever, Okay, I mean it's like dating not a daughter,

846
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 14: but a granddaughter. It's giving Anna Nicole Smith vibes. I mean,

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Speaker 14: good for her if she gets.

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00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 10: A ranger over out of it. But it is, isn't it? So?

849
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 10: I mean, I can't. I couldn't do this.

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Speaker 14: This feels weird to me, and you know, I feel

851
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 14: like both have ulterior motives.

852
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 10: I'm not thinking that this.

853
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 14: Is love striking either one of them at that opportune moment.

854
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 10: It's giving weird vibes.

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00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: It is giving weird vibes.

856
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: But we shouldn't assume it is just motivated by money

857
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: or fame. It could be daddy is shoes, it could

858
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: be all sorts of things, Kinsey, I think we're going

859
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: to have to delve into this a little bit deeper,

860
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: maybe bring in some sort of psychologists to give us

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00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: some insights. But the age difference here is just astonishing.

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00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: I'm all for love is love, but let's just you know,

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00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: keep it sensible because he is really grandfather h for her,

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00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 2: that's bizarre. Kinsey's Schofield. It's always a pleasure. Enjoy London

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Speaker 2: and we'll.

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Speaker 3: Speak to you next week.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow for Left is Losing It at

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Speaker 2: nine thirty pm.

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Speaker 3: Good Night,