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<v Speaker 1>Apogee Production, Welcome back to you another episode about I

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<v Speaker 1>A Bad Mum podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Instagram on the go. At Am I a

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<v Speaker 2>bad Mum?

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<v Speaker 3>We do.

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<v Speaker 2>We've paused the Facebook at the moment because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know the login. No.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, and the Facebook for me is just

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<v Speaker 3>like one of those worlds where you're like, I used

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<v Speaker 3>to know how to somewhat navigate it, and now I look.

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<v Speaker 2>At it and go omg. Yeah, that's hectic in that

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<v Speaker 2>it's too much to it. There's too much happening on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Recently, we were selling our cars and someone had suggested

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<v Speaker 3>me going onto Facebook Marketplace.

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<v Speaker 2>To sell my car.

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<v Speaker 3>I've struggled to sell anything like, let alone my car.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even imagine the kind of fear feedback and

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<v Speaker 3>response you would get from people on Facebook Marketplace buying

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<v Speaker 3>a car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I have never sold a car a marketplace. But

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<v Speaker 2>you're really good at it. Yeah, I am good at it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do you love the hustle?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I used gum Tree a lot. Yeah, obviously, and now

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing Marketplace. I get frustrated with people on Marketplace.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't I send you something?

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<v Speaker 3>Every person that pops up on Marketplace if I've listed something,

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<v Speaker 3>I just think automatically, Oh, it's a scam.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to scam me, it's a scam. I don't get

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<v Speaker 2>that much on Marketplace. I definitely did get that on

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<v Speaker 2>gum Tree. There would be people scamming all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I said someone the other day. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>said something about selling your old phone. They were like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean you sell your own old phones?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I sell all my old phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I think the last one I handed into Telstra.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I would have done that.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably gave you, like a couple they scammed me. Probably. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to find the screenshot that I sent you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was selling a black lounge room unit and

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<v Speaker 2>I had it out for fifty dollars because I had

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<v Speaker 2>my garage full of stuff and I just need you

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<v Speaker 2>needed to get it to get rid of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>she said to me, I know exactly, because I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>laughing about the fact that you put stuff on gum Tree,

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<v Speaker 2>on gums or marketplace, and you put it up for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot cheaper than it is because obviously it's secondhand,

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<v Speaker 2>and then someone always tries to talk down yeah price

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<v Speaker 2>and it's up for fifty dollars right, which is nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you take forty? I can pick up tomorrow afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>one thirty pm. I said, yeah, that's fine, you can

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<v Speaker 2>pick it up tomorrow, have it for forty, whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you want, whatever, And then she came back and said, thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any damage or a scratch on it? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I said, yes, there are some scratches

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<v Speaker 2>on it, which is why it's that cheap. It was

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<v Speaker 2>purchased for twelve hundred dollars. You're paying forty. It blows

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<v Speaker 2>for so people wanted to look brand new. What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you turn up at one thirty and pay for it? No?

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't reply, Oh, I had scratches on it. You're

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<v Speaker 2>buying a second hand item?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I did with it? Rach took

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<v Speaker 2>it to the tip. Yeah, I have done so much

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<v Speaker 2>more satisfyct. I get so sick of people. Yeah, why

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<v Speaker 2>do they do that? I said something to you which

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<v Speaker 2>was quite rude, and you said, I wish you had

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<v Speaker 2>said that to them. You said, honestly, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong with these people? I said, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>it to look new, then buy it in the shop,

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<v Speaker 2>You fucking scab. Am I a bad mum leaving?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? I mean I kind of blended it weekly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we talked the other week about an issue I

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<v Speaker 2>had with the girls wanting to go to see Billie

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<v Speaker 2>eilive in San Francisco. Yeah, they really believed that they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to be able to save the money in

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<v Speaker 2>six months time for flights accommodation. I was the bad

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<v Speaker 2>guy that shut it down quickly. And when first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way in a million years I'm letting you

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<v Speaker 2>go to Francisco your own, and secondly, you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>really unrealistic expectation of what money is involved and all

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<v Speaker 2>the logistics of going to America anyway, shut it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Girls were so angry with me, probably had the worst

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<v Speaker 2>argument we've ever had. It just escalated, like you cannot imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>They were both at me. They were ganging up. They

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<v Speaker 2>were so sure that I had led them on by

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<v Speaker 2>making them think that they were saving money to do

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<v Speaker 2>something like that overseas, whereas in my mind I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way I would have even entertained that idea

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<v Speaker 2>of you going over by yourself. Anyway. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>really really big argument I was trying to reason with them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's really interesting rage because I spoke to somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>like a professional who works at the school and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>with teenagers with the part of their brain that hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>yet fully developed, the part of the brain that's about

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<v Speaker 2>reasoning and stuff like that, she said, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>take ten years off the age of your child, so

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<v Speaker 2>you are actually reasoning with in that moment, a six

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<v Speaker 2>year old.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's so interesting. First of all. Second

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<v Speaker 2>of all, I got to the point rate where I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, if I don't leave this house, they need

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<v Speaker 2>to leave, and it's evening and you're not really supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to kick kids out on the street rowned upon, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I made the decision to pack a bag and

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<v Speaker 2>leave the house. Now h they were safe at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea of age. There was food in the fruit like

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<v Speaker 2>on paper. Me packing your bag and then leaving my

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<v Speaker 2>kids sounds bad, but in my mind it was if

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<v Speaker 2>I don't leave and remove myself from this situation, I

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<v Speaker 2>am going to say something that I will really regret

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<v Speaker 2>because I got so angry at the way it all

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<v Speaker 2>played out on what was said that I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Drove away. I had no idea where I was going range,

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<v Speaker 2>I had no plan.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I love the idea that you've packed your

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<v Speaker 3>bag as well, Like you're like, we'll pack a bag.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you're packing? Know where I'm going. In the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of like it was a bit dramatic just.

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<v Speaker 3>To give context to it, like of that day, because

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<v Speaker 3>I do remember the day. You'd been peppered and belted

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<v Speaker 3>and battered all day from like I think I saw

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<v Speaker 3>you in the morning of that day at like I

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<v Speaker 3>think we got together at like what nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty, and you said it had already been going for

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<v Speaker 2>like two hours before that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if I was to say, I'm going to put

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<v Speaker 3>you on a treadmill for fourteen hours straight and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want you to get off, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>you to cry, and I don't want you to fault,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what that is. Right, You're getting belted and battered

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<v Speaker 3>and battered and bat it over fourteen hours, no wonder,

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<v Speaker 3>no wonder you went.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess can't do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And that whole response of like I've just got to

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<v Speaker 3>walk away because it's going to be best for you.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also going to be best for me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to get to the point where I

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<v Speaker 3>have to have regret about what I say, my actions,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you know, sort of transpires with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there was also a big part of me

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<v Speaker 2>that was like, you need to sit and think about

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<v Speaker 2>what present they did. And so yeah, I started driving off.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay was still at work, so I called him crying,

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<v Speaker 2>told him about the whole situation. He was like, Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>Well we'll just go and stand hotel. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of me that was like, oh, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's quite glad that it's played out like this. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just go stay in the hotel. So honestly, raised last minute,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on bloodywad if dot com and I have booked

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<v Speaker 2>just a place in the city and turned up. The

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of freedom really hit me. When I checked in,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, I've just left my hand. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my kids, pets aren't fed. They can work that out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to take some time out for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Next morning, we see that they're no one because we

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<v Speaker 2>see the cameras, so we're getting alert someone. I was

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<v Speaker 2>on the doorstep and they had haven't left for school,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, they were supposed to get the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a bus pass and they hadn't left. Jay

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<v Speaker 2>texts them because it's after when the bus would have

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<v Speaker 2>gone and says, if you've forgotten the bus, get Nuba

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<v Speaker 2>to school. I've gone straight to work, assuming they're at school.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get a call from the student wellness officer

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<v Speaker 2>and she says, just checking in to make sure everything's

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<v Speaker 2>okay with the girls. They haven't come to school today,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what do you mean they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>gone to school. She's like, you weren't aware, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, I wasn't aware they were supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I've called the girls and I'm like why

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<v Speaker 2>and you're at school and they're like, we sat in

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<v Speaker 2>our uniform, we got up, we got all ready, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we waited for you to come home and take

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<v Speaker 2>us to school, and you didn't. And I was like, shit,

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<v Speaker 2>we missed the part out. We missed the part that

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<v Speaker 2>told them we wouldn't be about to take them to school.

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<v Speaker 2>So I start getting mum gilt. No, I wouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have been like, well, you know you're a

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<v Speaker 3>big girl that wanted to go to San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I find out from Amelia that she sent

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<v Speaker 2>an email that morning to her teacher saying, oh God,

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<v Speaker 2>saying hi, just to let you know, our parents didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come home last night. This is what she said. Our

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<v Speaker 2>parents didn't come home last night. We haven't been able

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<v Speaker 2>to get hold of them. They didn't come home this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't been able to go to school. We sat

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<v Speaker 2>here waiting in our school uniform. H There was no

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<v Speaker 2>context to this email teacher. The teacher thinks we have

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<v Speaker 2>just not gone home, not told them, and left them

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<v Speaker 2>to finn for themselves with no way of getting to school.

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<v Speaker 2>I sent an email to the teacher and said, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting narrative that told her everything. Yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I spoke to her and told her everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, I completely understand. And then she

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<v Speaker 2>said at the end of it, oh, I've got teenagers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd quite like to just leave go to a hotel

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<v Speaker 2>for a few too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So it could have gone horribly wrong because there were

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<v Speaker 2>a good few hours in the day that the school

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was some low life parents.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I bet you, like I imagine I would hope that

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<v Speaker 3>they would have seen through and understood that until speaking

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<v Speaker 3>to you and understanding the narrative from your side of it,

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<v Speaker 3>like you've never shown that sort of behavior and you've

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<v Speaker 3>never done it before, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it definitely felt extreme. That it's not extreme.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's best to do that the alternative. If

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't left that situation and gone to a hotel

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<v Speaker 2>for the night, God knows what happened in that.

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<v Speaker 3>But also from like your side of it, Katie, like

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying you left, which is great, and I agree,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have been the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have walked away. I would have walked out

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<v Speaker 2>of there as well. I did really enjoy being in

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<v Speaker 2>that hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>I was probably mean a silence all I'm the about

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<v Speaker 3>night in a hotel, no phone contact, maybe a glass

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<v Speaker 3>of bubble slotter, some trashy TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I later found out Rachel's a friendly hotel. Me and

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<v Speaker 2>Bella the dog, we could have a lovely time. There's

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<v Speaker 2>Bella in her robe, just sitting up on the bed.