Speaker 1: Apogee Production, Welcome back to you another episode about I
Speaker 1: A Bad Mum podcast.
Speaker 2: We've got Instagram on the go. At Am I a
Speaker 2: bad Mum?
Speaker 3: We do.
Speaker 2: We've paused the Facebook at the moment because we don't
Speaker 2: know the login. No.
Speaker 3: I was like, and the Facebook for me is just
Speaker 3: like one of those worlds where you're like, I used
Speaker 3: to know how to somewhat navigate it, and now I look.
Speaker 2: At it and go omg. Yeah, that's hectic in that
Speaker 2: it's too much to it. There's too much happening on it.
Speaker 3: Recently, we were selling our cars and someone had suggested
Speaker 3: me going onto Facebook Marketplace.
Speaker 2: To sell my car.
Speaker 3: I've struggled to sell anything like, let alone my car.
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine the kind of fear feedback and
Speaker 3: response you would get from people on Facebook Marketplace buying
Speaker 3: a car.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have never sold a car a marketplace. But
Speaker 2: you're really good at it. Yeah, I am good at it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do you love the hustle?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I used gum Tree a lot. Yeah, obviously, and now
Speaker 2: I am doing Marketplace. I get frustrated with people on Marketplace.
Speaker 2: Didn't I send you something?
Speaker 3: Every person that pops up on Marketplace if I've listed something,
Speaker 3: I just think automatically, Oh, it's a scam.
Speaker 2: Trying to scam me, it's a scam. I don't get
Speaker 2: that much on Marketplace. I definitely did get that on
Speaker 2: gum Tree. There would be people scamming all the time.
Speaker 2: I said someone the other day. I was like, I
Speaker 2: said something about selling your old phone. They were like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean you sell your own old phones?
Speaker 2: I was like, I sell all my old phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think the last one I handed into Telstra.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I would have done that.
Speaker 2: They probably gave you, like a couple they scammed me. Probably. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to find the screenshot that I sent you.
Speaker 2: So I was selling a black lounge room unit and
Speaker 2: I had it out for fifty dollars because I had
Speaker 2: my garage full of stuff and I just need you
Speaker 2: needed to get it to get rid of it. And
Speaker 2: she said to me, I know exactly, because I'm always
Speaker 2: laughing about the fact that you put stuff on gum Tree,
Speaker 2: on gums or marketplace, and you put it up for
Speaker 2: a lot cheaper than it is because obviously it's secondhand,
Speaker 2: and then someone always tries to talk down yeah price
Speaker 2: and it's up for fifty dollars right, which is nothing?
Speaker 2: Would you take forty? I can pick up tomorrow afternoon
Speaker 2: one thirty pm. I said, yeah, that's fine, you can
Speaker 2: pick it up tomorrow, have it for forty, whatever the
Speaker 2: fuck you want, whatever, And then she came back and said, thanks.
Speaker 2: Is there any damage or a scratch on it? And
Speaker 2: I was like, I said, yes, there are some scratches
Speaker 2: on it, which is why it's that cheap. It was
Speaker 2: purchased for twelve hundred dollars. You're paying forty. It blows
Speaker 2: for so people wanted to look brand new. What happened?
Speaker 3: Did you turn up at one thirty and pay for it? No?
Speaker 2: She didn't reply, Oh, I had scratches on it. You're
Speaker 2: buying a second hand item?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I did with it? Rach took
Speaker 2: it to the tip. Yeah, I have done so much
Speaker 2: more satisfyct. I get so sick of people. Yeah, why
Speaker 2: do they do that? I said something to you which
Speaker 2: was quite rude, and you said, I wish you had
Speaker 2: said that to them. You said, honestly, what the fuck
Speaker 2: is wrong with these people? I said, if you want
Speaker 2: it to look new, then buy it in the shop,
Speaker 2: You fucking scab. Am I a bad mum leaving?
Speaker 3: Oh? I mean I kind of blended it weekly.
Speaker 2: Well, we talked the other week about an issue I
Speaker 2: had with the girls wanting to go to see Billie
Speaker 2: eilive in San Francisco. Yeah, they really believed that they
Speaker 2: were going to be able to save the money in
Speaker 2: six months time for flights accommodation. I was the bad
Speaker 2: guy that shut it down quickly. And when first of all,
Speaker 2: there's no way in a million years I'm letting you
Speaker 2: go to Francisco your own, and secondly, you've got a
Speaker 2: really unrealistic expectation of what money is involved and all
Speaker 2: the logistics of going to America anyway, shut it down.
Speaker 2: Girls were so angry with me, probably had the worst
Speaker 2: argument we've ever had. It just escalated, like you cannot imagine.
Speaker 2: They were both at me. They were ganging up. They
Speaker 2: were so sure that I had led them on by
Speaker 2: making them think that they were saving money to do
Speaker 2: something like that overseas, whereas in my mind I was like,
Speaker 2: there's no way I would have even entertained that idea
Speaker 2: of you going over by yourself. Anyway. It was a
Speaker 2: really really big argument I was trying to reason with them.
Speaker 2: And it's really interesting rage because I spoke to somebody,
Speaker 2: like a professional who works at the school and she said,
Speaker 2: with teenagers with the part of their brain that hasn't
Speaker 2: yet fully developed, the part of the brain that's about
Speaker 2: reasoning and stuff like that, she said, you need to
Speaker 2: take ten years off the age of your child, so
Speaker 2: you are actually reasoning with in that moment, a six
Speaker 2: year old.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's so interesting. First of all. Second
Speaker 2: of all, I got to the point rate where I
Speaker 2: was like, if I don't leave this house, they need
Speaker 2: to leave, and it's evening and you're not really supposed
Speaker 2: to kick kids out on the street rowned upon, And
Speaker 2: so I made the decision to pack a bag and
Speaker 2: leave the house. Now h they were safe at home.
Speaker 2: Yea of age. There was food in the fruit like
Speaker 2: on paper. Me packing your bag and then leaving my
Speaker 2: kids sounds bad, but in my mind it was if
Speaker 2: I don't leave and remove myself from this situation, I
Speaker 2: am going to say something that I will really regret
Speaker 2: because I got so angry at the way it all
Speaker 2: played out on what was said that I was like,
Speaker 2: I have to go.
Speaker 3: That's a good decision.
Speaker 2: Drove away. I had no idea where I was going range,
Speaker 2: I had no plan.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love the idea that you've packed your
Speaker 3: bag as well, Like you're like, we'll pack a bag.
Speaker 2: What are you're packing? Know where I'm going. In the moment,
Speaker 2: it was kind of like it was a bit dramatic just.
Speaker 3: To give context to it, like of that day, because
Speaker 3: I do remember the day. You'd been peppered and belted
Speaker 3: and battered all day from like I think I saw
Speaker 3: you in the morning of that day at like I
Speaker 3: think we got together at like what nine.
Speaker 2: Thirty, and you said it had already been going for
Speaker 2: like two hours before that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I was to say, I'm going to put
Speaker 3: you on a treadmill for fourteen hours straight and I
Speaker 3: don't want you to get off, and I don't want
Speaker 3: you to cry, and I don't want you to fault,
Speaker 3: that's what that is. Right, You're getting belted and battered
Speaker 3: and battered and bat it over fourteen hours, no wonder,
Speaker 3: no wonder you went.
Speaker 2: I guess can't do it anymore.
Speaker 3: And that whole response of like I've just got to
Speaker 3: walk away because it's going to be best for you.
Speaker 3: But it's also going to be best for me, and
Speaker 3: I don't want to get to the point where I
Speaker 3: have to have regret about what I say, my actions,
Speaker 3: whatever you know, sort of transpires with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was also a big part of me
Speaker 2: that was like, you need to sit and think about
Speaker 2: what present they did. And so yeah, I started driving off.
Speaker 2: Jay was still at work, so I called him crying,
Speaker 2: told him about the whole situation. He was like, Okay, cool,
Speaker 2: Well we'll just go and stand hotel. There was a
Speaker 2: part of me that was like, oh, you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's quite glad that it's played out like this. Let's
Speaker 2: just go stay in the hotel. So honestly, raised last minute,
Speaker 2: I'm on bloodywad if dot com and I have booked
Speaker 2: just a place in the city and turned up. The
Speaker 2: feeling of freedom really hit me. When I checked in,
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, I've just left my hand. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my kids, pets aren't fed. They can work that out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to take some time out for myself.
Speaker 2: Next morning, we see that they're no one because we
Speaker 2: see the cameras, so we're getting alert someone. I was
Speaker 2: on the doorstep and they had haven't left for school,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, they were supposed to get the bus.
Speaker 2: They've got a bus pass and they hadn't left. Jay
Speaker 2: texts them because it's after when the bus would have
Speaker 2: gone and says, if you've forgotten the bus, get Nuba
Speaker 2: to school. I've gone straight to work, assuming they're at school.
Speaker 2: And I get a call from the student wellness officer
Speaker 2: and she says, just checking in to make sure everything's
Speaker 2: okay with the girls. They haven't come to school today,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what do you mean they haven't
Speaker 2: gone to school. She's like, you weren't aware, and I
Speaker 2: was like, no, I wasn't aware they were supposed to
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then I've called the girls and I'm like why
Speaker 2: and you're at school and they're like, we sat in
Speaker 2: our uniform, we got up, we got all ready, and
Speaker 2: then we waited for you to come home and take
Speaker 2: us to school, and you didn't. And I was like, shit,
Speaker 2: we missed the part out. We missed the part that
Speaker 2: told them we wouldn't be about to take them to school.
Speaker 2: So I start getting mum gilt. No, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: I would have been like, well, you know you're a
Speaker 3: big girl that wanted to go to San Francisco.
Speaker 2: So then I find out from Amelia that she sent
Speaker 2: an email that morning to her teacher saying, oh God,
Speaker 2: saying hi, just to let you know, our parents didn't
Speaker 2: come home last night. This is what she said. Our
Speaker 2: parents didn't come home last night. We haven't been able
Speaker 2: to get hold of them. They didn't come home this morning.
Speaker 2: We haven't been able to go to school. We sat
Speaker 2: here waiting in our school uniform. H There was no
Speaker 2: context to this email teacher. The teacher thinks we have
Speaker 2: just not gone home, not told them, and left them
Speaker 2: to finn for themselves with no way of getting to school.
Speaker 2: I sent an email to the teacher and said, wow,
Speaker 2: very interesting narrative that told her everything. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: And so I spoke to her and told her everything,
Speaker 2: and she was like, I completely understand. And then she
Speaker 2: said at the end of it, oh, I've got teenagers.
Speaker 2: I'd quite like to just leave go to a hotel
Speaker 2: for a few too.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So it could have gone horribly wrong because there were
Speaker 2: a good few hours in the day that the school
Speaker 2: thought I was some low life parents.
Speaker 3: No, I bet you, like I imagine I would hope that
Speaker 3: they would have seen through and understood that until speaking
Speaker 3: to you and understanding the narrative from your side of it,
Speaker 3: like you've never shown that sort of behavior and you've
Speaker 3: never done it before, So.
Speaker 2: I mean it definitely felt extreme. That it's not extreme.
Speaker 2: I think it's best to do that the alternative. If
Speaker 2: I hadn't left that situation and gone to a hotel
Speaker 2: for the night, God knows what happened in that.
Speaker 3: But also from like your side of it, Katie, like
Speaker 3: you're saying you left, which is great, and I agree,
Speaker 3: I would have been the same.
Speaker 2: I would have walked away. I would have walked out
Speaker 2: of there as well. I did really enjoy being in
Speaker 2: that hotel.
Speaker 3: I was probably mean a silence all I'm the about
Speaker 3: night in a hotel, no phone contact, maybe a glass
Speaker 3: of bubble slotter, some trashy TV.
Speaker 2: I later found out Rachel's a friendly hotel. Me and
Speaker 2: Bella the dog, we could have a lovely time. There's
Speaker 2: Bella in her robe, just sitting up on the bed.