Speaker 1: From the Sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sherry, thank you very much, James and everyone
Speaker 1: else who's watching us right now. I do appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Welcome and come along to the man Cave, because one
Speaker 1: heck of a night we've got for you tonight. Fine night,
Speaker 1: Team Red, Team Blue. They're gonna go in hard bug
Speaker 1: of the polls, forget the bookies. They both think there's
Speaker 1: a chance of winning their teams of this election. Side brombership,
Speaker 1: Stephen Conroy and some fun. It doesn't get better than
Speaker 1: Megan Kelly and she is on the show tonight from
Speaker 1: the United States.
Speaker 2: It's all astro turf. They have these professional protesters who
Speaker 2: they call up and they're like, okay, this weekend, it's DC, Okay,
Speaker 2: what's the cause? Hands off? Oh is that a me
Speaker 2: too thing? I like the new messaging. No, it's about
Speaker 2: doge what okay? Just get out there and look angry.
Speaker 2: I'm on it. And that's what happens.
Speaker 1: And the next big event is, of course tomorrow National
Speaker 1: Press Club when it comes to the energy ministers, and
Speaker 1: then get ready, sparks will fly. No one will pull
Speaker 1: a punch. They'll hit as hard as possible in the
Speaker 1: Mavericks debate. The pub test that will be done from Tweedtheads,
Speaker 1: Mighty Tweeedtheads. It's in New South Wales. It's close enough
Speaker 1: to Queensland. So Matt Canavan, Bobcatter, Pauline Hansen, they are
Speaker 1: going to be juking it out. Pub test. It's skynews
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Speaker 1: it's skynews dot com dot Au. Twenty four days to
Speaker 1: go in the electoral contest. It is thirteen days now
Speaker 1: less than two weeks before the first votes will be cast.
Speaker 1: As I say, the majority of people will vote early
Speaker 1: this election, so the election will be in two parts,
Speaker 1: the one of the people who turn up before election
Speaker 1: day the people who turned up on election day. Which
Speaker 1: is why pretty much everything will be settled by the
Speaker 1: launches of the parties, which happen here on Sunday. Full
Speaker 1: coverage of course from dawn dell dusk and all in
Speaker 1: between when it comes to things here on Sky News.
Speaker 1: As for what took place today, well, the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: he spent some time in Sydney before making his way
Speaker 1: up to the far north of Queensland. He was in
Speaker 1: Cans today. This is after well, just meeting the people,
Speaker 1: and by that I mean a pre arranged photo op
Speaker 1: pretending you went to the markets and mixed it up
Speaker 1: with people. The reality was of course all pre planned
Speaker 1: about who you shake your hands, that's the way it works.
Speaker 1: And of course once he got to Queensland, there's only
Speaker 1: one way to win an election, and that's by one right.
Speaker 3: We will provide two hundred and forty five million dollars
Speaker 3: for a new Barren River Bridge on the Kennedy Highway
Speaker 3: and to all of those that.
Speaker 1: Are keeping score about who is spending what and who
Speaker 1: is promising. Can you include every promise that's been made
Speaker 1: since the start of the year, because though those are
Speaker 1: the big ones, those are where the billions of dollars are,
Speaker 1: and thankfully we're keeping track of the more than forty
Speaker 1: five billion dollars were the promises that had been made
Speaker 1: by this bloke so far.
Speaker 3: A seven point two billion dollar announcement today five million dollars,
Speaker 3: ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars,
Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty million dollars, two billion dollars, thirty
Speaker 3: seven million dollar, eight hundred and forty two million dollar,
Speaker 3: two point four billion dollars, eight point five billion dollar,
Speaker 3: four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars, three point
Speaker 3: four billion dollars, two point eight billion dollars, two hundred
Speaker 3: million dollar, one hundred and fifty million dollars, one billion dollars,
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty five million dollars.
Speaker 1: Now, because we were focused on the People's Forum, which
Speaker 1: was awesome last night, didn't get a chance to tell
Speaker 1: you about something that happened on the trail yesterday, but
Speaker 1: it was so weird. I've got to show you tonight
Speaker 1: he was making an announcement when it comes to more
Speaker 1: support when it comes to mental health. You'll never hear
Speaker 1: me arguing aga against well treveling of every promise that
Speaker 1: gets made by all sides. You can't throw enough at
Speaker 1: the resourcing here. But one of the people who was
Speaker 1: brought along as a backup for the Prime Minister to
Speaker 1: say his plan was fantastic is the former Strainer of
Speaker 1: the Year, Professor Patrick mcgory. Now I love this bloke.
Speaker 1: He and he and Hickey the professor have done great
Speaker 1: things with the organization headspace. And he was asked a
Speaker 1: question that was meant to be a knockout blow on
Speaker 1: the behalf of the Labor Party. Instead the Professor, well,
Speaker 1: he hit right back and it ended up being well this.
Speaker 4: Do you think going into this selection that the coalition
Speaker 4: has a worse mental health policy on the table. Do
Speaker 4: you think they're going to cut mental health spending?
Speaker 1: I know, I don't think they will. I think the
Speaker 1: problems has already mentioned that this is generally speaking a
Speaker 1: bipartisan achievement of our country. Aunt well done, professor Pat.
Speaker 1: He's not going to get pushed around. He's the type
Speaker 1: of person who, like many mental health advocates, are going
Speaker 1: to go anywhere where somebody's going to promise more resources.
Speaker 1: But he's not going to get involved in the politics
Speaker 1: that's saying this side that's yes, lots of money on
Speaker 1: the table. And good on him for having the courage
Speaker 1: as he does to stand up in front of the
Speaker 1: nation's press, in front of the Prime minister and tell
Speaker 1: the truth, not to propagate the political lies. As for
Speaker 1: the opposition leader, and I'll get to his emotional twenty
Speaker 1: four hours in a moment's time, he made a major
Speaker 1: announcement today and that was how many people will they
Speaker 1: cut immigration by? The number is.
Speaker 5: Are you still committed to that one hundred thousand deeper cut?
Speaker 6: And if so, yeah, so in relation your question is
Speaker 6: in relation to the non we can reduce the non
Speaker 6: by one hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: All right? Well, as always the media, well they have
Speaker 1: to spin it one way. Why because they like the
Speaker 1: arrangements they currently have. They like the relationships with the
Speaker 1: side of politics that they probably vote for, if not
Speaker 1: most likely the ones that the Greens give their preferences to,
Speaker 1: that of course, being the Labor Party every single day,
Speaker 1: no matter the city, in a manga matter the location,
Speaker 1: the people who should be holding his feet to the fire,
Speaker 1: who should be calling bs, not because they're lefties or righties,
Speaker 1: but because that's the job of interrogating. When somebody stands
Speaker 1: up with the policy, find the way to pick the
Speaker 1: hole in it, or when they turn around and say
Speaker 1: we're definitely going to do this thing that we haven't
Speaker 1: done for the past three years, point out, why haven't
Speaker 1: youve done it for the past three years? Oh no,
Speaker 1: this mob is just rolling along doing the pr for
Speaker 1: the bloke.
Speaker 7: We're in an area that has been l and p
Speaker 7: harhland for a long time. Does Labor intend to take
Speaker 7: this back?
Speaker 4: Since we last spoke. President Trump has also said that
Speaker 4: his had world leaders on the phone to him, quote
Speaker 4: kissing his ass. You haven't been one of them? Are
Speaker 4: you now vindicated field decision not to pick up the
Speaker 4: phone and call him, as Peter Dunton has been questing.
Speaker 1: Please, But of course, for Peter Duddon, he's not allowed
Speaker 1: to have stopped the bleeding at the People's Forum like
Speaker 1: many people believe he has. They're not allowing him to
Speaker 1: get out of first gear. They won't let him get
Speaker 1: on the attack because if he gets on the attack,
Speaker 1: then he could disrupt their comfortable little arrangement with the
Speaker 1: handsome boy that China loves.
Speaker 6: What is your response to concern that you're not taking
Speaker 6: a comprehensive economic manifesto to the election, all laid out
Speaker 6: how you're going to tackle structural deficits at spending.
Speaker 1: Are you concerned that talking about of migration might hurt
Speaker 1: you in these restless, inny multicultural seats that you need
Speaker 1: to remp is the earliest people will see retail gusts
Speaker 1: and electricity prices go down under yours. You know, I
Speaker 1: love this game. For three years. Every single time I
Speaker 1: have talked about the need for the cut in immigration,
Speaker 1: I say what I truly believe. But it is an
Speaker 1: important thing to say each and every time. It's not
Speaker 1: about who comes, It's not about from where they come.
Speaker 1: It's not about from what they believe. It is about
Speaker 1: adding the best part of two million people to every
Speaker 1: queue that exists in Australia, from a childcare center to
Speaker 1: ambulance ramping, to rental cues to people putting their hands
Speaker 1: up to buy a house. That's why you have to
Speaker 1: pump the brakes now. You can't go all the way
Speaker 1: to zero. Why because you do have to make sure
Speaker 1: that you have people who have practical skills to be
Speaker 1: able to come to the country. But you have to
Speaker 1: reduce the number because the infrastructure does not match the
Speaker 1: record number of people that have been brought in by
Speaker 1: this government. Peter duddon last night before the nation's eyes,
Speaker 1: made it very clear that it wasn't some dog whistle
Speaker 1: about they're the wrong color, they believe in the wrong thing,
Speaker 1: they speak a different language. No, heylike any sensible reasonable
Speaker 1: person understands, and in a nation of immigrants, immigrants are
Speaker 1: the past, present future of the country. We should all
Speaker 1: adhere to the idea that the Lord of the land
Speaker 1: is more important than every faith. But again that's not
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. The reason immigration needs to be
Speaker 1: cut back is because of every single person that is
Speaker 1: added to every single thing that you q for at
Speaker 1: every point of the day, from how long the traffic
Speaker 1: jam is to how many people are competing for a
Speaker 1: rental home. That's why it matters, and that's why Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton is in exactly the right place. This idea that
Speaker 1: to mention it somehow is having a go at people
Speaker 1: of different cultures is garbage and it is a perfect
Speaker 1: example about how the media loves to spin the ball,
Speaker 1: surprisingly always to the left. Now, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: incredible emotion of the past twenty four hours for Peter Dutton.
Speaker 1: Andrew Bolt told us just before the debate last night
Speaker 1: about what the turmoil was that Peter Dutton was dealing with, because,
Speaker 1: as you know, his dad had had a heart attack. Now,
Speaker 1: in that moment, when your dad is of a certain
Speaker 1: age and you get news like that, you don't know
Speaker 1: what the next call is going to be after that.
Speaker 1: For him to be able to go out there and
Speaker 1: perform the way that he did is an absolute credit
Speaker 1: to him as a human being, regardless of eating in
Speaker 1: a vote for him or not vote for him, whether
Speaker 1: you hate him on TikTok, or whether you love him
Speaker 1: on Facebook. That was a strong example of the type
Speaker 1: of pressure test that a prime minister has to go under. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: Bruce apparently is okay, but for anyone who's had to
Speaker 1: go through something like that, well you can imagine how
Speaker 1: difficult it was. And he spoke about that today.
Speaker 6: Look, I spoke to dad this morning and thank you
Speaker 6: for a question and asking about him. He's doing well,
Speaker 6: he's stoic, he's a tough bugger, he's looked tired all
Speaker 6: of his life, and he's been an amazing dad. So yeah,
Speaker 6: of course you think about him.
Speaker 1: But he's yeah, he's fine, he's doing well. Thank you,
Speaker 1: really nice. Right again, whether you're going to vote for
Speaker 1: him or not, you're like it. But that was a
Speaker 1: lovely human moment, right And as a teen a second,
Speaker 1: a lot of undecided voters, they know the difference between
Speaker 1: the genuine person who they may amy not vote for
Speaker 1: and the slick BS machine that currently is on track
Speaker 1: to being able to hold on to government. But I've
Speaker 1: got to say I thought about Peter and his father
Speaker 1: today because my little girl had the Easter hat parade
Speaker 1: at her school and I'm pleased to say that my
Speaker 1: dad Ken was with me. And I am very, very
Speaker 1: lucky to be somebody who is able to spend time
Speaker 1: with their dad, who's always had a great relationship with
Speaker 1: their and I know there's lots of people who don't,
Speaker 1: but it is yet again a reminder to us that
Speaker 1: if you've got dad around, reach out, make the time
Speaker 1: because dads are awesome. Dads have sacrificed. I know when
Speaker 1: it came to my father and when I was born
Speaker 1: and they wanted to get a new Telly. He didn't
Speaker 1: just work one job. He didn't work two job, he
Speaker 1: worked three. I know how hard he worked to make
Speaker 1: sure that we had a roof over our head and
Speaker 1: meal on the table. And I know the traditional Australian
Speaker 1: values that he has instilled in me that I show
Speaker 1: you on this program Easion every night. So Kenny Dog,
Speaker 1: I love you, and the Kenny Dogs all over Australia,
Speaker 1: we love you, and we promise plenty more time, not
Speaker 1: just text and phone calls. Let's hang out more often.
Speaker 1: I love you Dad. It was so good for you
Speaker 1: to be there, and Zadi just absolutely loved it as
Speaker 1: as she did as well. But then let's get to
Speaker 1: a pretty low moment from the media today. This was
Speaker 1: a question that was asked by a Channel seven reporter.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even going to try to do the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Now, the question had been asked,
Speaker 1: the answer he been given. But this reporter from Channel
Speaker 1: seven decided to ask this question this way to a
Speaker 1: bloke whose father had just had a heart attack and
Speaker 1: worst case scenario may well have not made it through
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 8: Campaigns are pressure events for candidates like yourself, but their
Speaker 8: pressure events for families of candidates too. Do you worry
Speaker 8: your dad is not being helped and might even have
Speaker 8: been harmed by the fact that he's worried about you?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's a despicable question. I mean, do they
Speaker 1: hate him so much that now they blame him for
Speaker 1: his father's heart attack. I show you this stuff each
Speaker 1: and every night because I want you to see how
Speaker 1: the sausage is made, and just like a butcher will
Speaker 1: tell you, it is not a pretty process. What were
Speaker 1: they trying to do? Were they trying to make him angry?
Speaker 1: Were they trying to make him cry? How is it
Speaker 1: acceptable that that is the question the way that it
Speaker 1: was framed? Now, keep told that particular reporter is one
Speaker 1: of the better ones. Fine, fair enough, but that was
Speaker 1: a low blow that was unnecessary, and I can't imagine
Speaker 1: them reacting well if that question was asked to themselves
Speaker 1: that day after their own parent had an event that
Speaker 1: may well have killed them. It's just it's low. It's low,
Speaker 1: and believe it or not, there's another version of low
Speaker 1: that I've got to talk about here. The People's Forum
Speaker 1: has been happening at sky News now for fifteen years,
Speaker 1: and for more than fifteen years, Sky News has been
Speaker 1: at the absolute heart of Australian politics. We are the
Speaker 1: channel that is on in the MP's offices, it's on
Speaker 1: in the CEO suites, and it's on at your place
Speaker 1: in suburban and regional Australia. Why because we care about
Speaker 1: the detail. Yes, here at night we push very hard
Speaker 1: when it comes to what we believe. But you know,
Speaker 1: it is what we believe. So of those who don't
Speaker 1: work for this organization, they do everything they can to
Speaker 1: try to turn us into a caricature, something to be ignored,
Speaker 1: and they find a one hundred different ways to tell
Speaker 1: you why any and everything that appears here is something
Speaker 1: that you should ignore. Principally, it's because they hate the
Speaker 1: idea that we at times can be an absolute form
Speaker 1: of resistance to the march of the far left through
Speaker 1: the cultural institutions and the political conversation. We are people
Speaker 1: who want to honor our fathers and grandfathers, mothers, grandmothers,
Speaker 1: and want to set up the best possible future for
Speaker 1: our kids and grandkids. We want to make sure that
Speaker 1: whatever generation you are in, we're in a country that
Speaker 1: reflects the one that we always thought it would be,
Speaker 1: not one that people want to redesign, not because they
Speaker 1: think it's better, but because they think that it will
Speaker 1: create an endless dependence on the center left of Australian politics.
Speaker 1: I hate that every time one of these people turn
Speaker 1: around and has a crack at us, because we defend
Speaker 1: the idea that Anzac Day ceremonies should be compulsory and
Speaker 1: there shouldn't be an opt out option like exists in
Speaker 1: some public schools going into this year. Oh, you're fighting
Speaker 1: a culture war. No, no, no, I'm sorry. We're pushing back.
Speaker 1: There are lines in the sand that cannot and should
Speaker 1: not be crossed when it comes to culture, or economics
Speaker 1: or the way of society works. Yet it's just too
Speaker 1: easy to put us in the naughty corner and roll
Speaker 1: their eyes collectively. You saw how they laughed, and they
Speaker 1: may well laugh at me. That's fine. I've got the
Speaker 1: broad shoulders and I lead with my chin. But I
Speaker 1: get pissed off because they're really laughing at you. They're
Speaker 1: laughing at you for watching, They're laughing at you for subscribing,
Speaker 1: They're laughing at you for sharing our content. These are
Speaker 1: the people who did not raise a finger in the
Speaker 1: fight to censor the Internet because they thought it would
Speaker 1: be a way of censoring you from having information that
Speaker 1: challenges their version of events. And that's it. The truth
Speaker 1: is the truth. But let's be very clear, as I
Speaker 1: show you every night, you get to see how the
Speaker 1: media makes it their version of the truth, how they
Speaker 1: lie by omission, how they decide to further political narratives
Speaker 1: for the people that they like, and the types of
Speaker 1: resistance they put in place to anyone who challenges it. Now,
Speaker 1: way back when when I was just at a radio reporter,
Speaker 1: and again I thought I had my dream job then
Speaker 1: because I was able to work in the medium. I
Speaker 1: grew up listening to the radio on desperately wanting to
Speaker 1: be on it, and I was able to achieve that dream.
Speaker 1: Let alone the one that I get to live every
Speaker 1: single night in your house, and I will forever be thankful,
Speaker 1: and I plan to go nowhere. Ever, I will take
Speaker 1: the man Cave with me wherever, and it will always
Speaker 1: be in connection to Sky News, no question. I appreciate
Speaker 1: that I've been here for fifteen years, but one of
Speaker 1: the people who I've got to say I thought I
Speaker 1: got along pretty well with was Lee Sales. Now. Lee Sales,
Speaker 1: of course, was the state political reporter for the ABC
Speaker 1: TV for a while that eventually made a way to
Speaker 1: the then standalone host of the seven thirty Report, And
Speaker 1: now she's sort of one of the stars of the ABC,
Speaker 1: and the ABC works in a star system just like
Speaker 1: Channel nine, but without the ads. Remember they care about
Speaker 1: the logies. When thirty years ago Andrew Denton used to
Speaker 1: joke about the logis on the ABC. Now, I think
Speaker 1: this is just snobbish what she said last night while
Speaker 1: she was delivering a analysis for one of the many
Speaker 1: taxpayer funded social media services that is run by the ABC.
Speaker 7: Will it change anybody's vote? Probably not, because it was
Speaker 7: broadcast on Sky News, which has a tiny audience, and
Speaker 7: it was behind a paywall. But it will be widely
Speaker 7: analyzed in the rest of the media in coming days,
Speaker 7: and it can change photo perceptions that way.
Speaker 1: Why now if it's part of some long turf war
Speaker 1: between them and ask us and who cares? I honestly
Speaker 1: thought that she was better than it, and I still
Speaker 1: wish to think that she is better than that because
Speaker 1: I have had no interpersonal interaction with Lee sales, there's
Speaker 1: been anything but positive. That's just unnecessary. I love how
Speaker 1: that audience size becomes something they like to talk about. Yet,
Speaker 1: of course, wouldn't that disqualify any and everything that happens
Speaker 1: on radio National. Oh, of course not, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that it is an absolute fraction of a fraction of
Speaker 1: a fraction of what people actually listen to on the radio. Now,
Speaker 1: I get it, two minion people do not watch the
Speaker 1: show each and every night. But I love each and
Speaker 1: every person who doesn't just watch this show, but commits
Speaker 1: to this show. I make that show for them, not
Speaker 1: for everyone else in the media. It means that your
Speaker 1: career prospects they just disappear and nobody will touching because
Speaker 1: you're too hot and you're two content, don't care, don't
Speaker 1: want to work anywhere else, don't need to work anywhere else.
Speaker 1: This joint will stand for a very very long time,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to being a part of its
Speaker 1: magnificent future. And when you insult this channel, you may
Speaker 1: well think that you are insulting presenters you don't like me,
Speaker 1: but you're also insulting all of the people who work
Speaker 1: for this joint. Young, passionate, creative people, who I hope
Speaker 1: get to go on and live the dream in their
Speaker 1: careers like I have been able to. You are better
Speaker 1: than that, Lee, but you weren't last night. As for
Speaker 1: the Treasurer's debate that took place this evening, I got
Speaker 1: to say one thing, and one thing very clearly, Thank
Speaker 1: goodness for Ross Greenwood. Thank goodness he gave them both
Speaker 1: a tough time. He gave them both a chance to
Speaker 1: deliver an uplifting statement of the country, neither of which did.
Speaker 1: But I've got to say I was just screaming at
Speaker 1: the TV at the relentless line when it came to
Speaker 1: Jim Charmers. Now Angus Taylor, smart bloke, but he just
Speaker 1: doesn't deliver a punch. In Australian politics rewards how you
Speaker 1: deliver a punch probably better than some of the decisions
Speaker 1: that you make, or in Charmers sense, the ones where
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have to defend himself. But I want
Speaker 1: to give you a little bit of an insight into
Speaker 1: what I think the personality of Jim Chalmers is, and
Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers is on a trajectory that if they get
Speaker 1: re elected, nasty nicky Sava over there in the Channel
Speaker 1: nine papers, say albou get another way, charmers next, this
Speaker 1: is the bloke most likely to end up being the
Speaker 1: next Prime Minister of Australia. But look at how he
Speaker 1: plays the game and how frankly passive aggressive his version
Speaker 1: of politics is. This is what he said at the
Speaker 1: start of the debate.
Speaker 9: I think for the first time in our history, Angus
Speaker 9: is going to the election with three policies. First of all,
Speaker 9: to increase income taxes on every Australian tax payer, Second
Speaker 9: of all lower wages, and thirdly secret cuts to pay
Speaker 9: for nuclear reactors. And you can't find six hundred billion
Speaker 9: dollars to pay for those nuclear reactors without coming after medicare,
Speaker 9: just like Peter Dutton did when he.
Speaker 1: Was the Health minister. All right, now I'm going to
Speaker 1: move on.
Speaker 10: Can I just respond to that ross because there's complete
Speaker 10: nonsense again from Jim and he really should stick with
Speaker 10: the facts. The only energy plan that's going to cost
Speaker 10: six hundred billion dollars is your energy plan, Chris Bowen's
Speaker 10: energy plan. That it's absolute nonsense. There will be lower
Speaker 10: taches made up that that will be lower taxes under
Speaker 10: a Dutton government.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I apologize, I've got that out of order. That
Speaker 1: again an example of things work right. Good on Angus
Speaker 1: Taylor for pushing back against the obvious lies. But he
Speaker 1: starts the debate by saying, oh, let's have a respectful conversation,
Speaker 1: and then watch what his version of a respectful conversation is.
Speaker 9: I think we can agree tonight, Angus, that will be
Speaker 9: respectful about this exchange.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a got opportunity.
Speaker 10: Of giga dueled down to ten. And that the thing
Speaker 10: about gas and energy anymore, the thing about gas know
Speaker 10: how to beat inflation, made that and you've completely failed
Speaker 10: to achieve it.
Speaker 9: Just luckally just made those numbers up. But no, Ross,
Speaker 9: this is important. I'll tell you why this man. Ross,
Speaker 9: can I tell you why this matters? Because angers, Angus
Speaker 9: and Peter. Productivity growth was the teens and they were
Speaker 9: in government.
Speaker 1: No one has over.
Speaker 10: Let me get into no one has overseen a six
Speaker 10: percent productivity loss in two and a half.
Speaker 9: The worst deck since the war was like you, well,
Speaker 9: let me.
Speaker 10: Finish, because people are working more for less, okay, and
Speaker 10: that's been a labor out.
Speaker 9: I'm going to go so that wages are up, real
Speaker 9: wages are.
Speaker 1: He's a bully and beat artist. That bloke made a
Speaker 1: decision to take fifteen hundred dollars off ten million workers,
Speaker 1: And I've banged on about it every second night because
Speaker 1: it is the true test of whether they cared or
Speaker 1: not about helping you when you need it. At most,
Speaker 1: they took fifteen hundred dollars off ten million workers and
Speaker 1: then turn around and spent half a billion dollars on
Speaker 1: a voice referendum which was all about getting them a
Speaker 1: better place in the Wikipedia pages. This bloke, again, is
Speaker 1: a man who knows how to work the media. You
Speaker 1: can see him working every side. You can see him
Speaker 1: getting his profile pieces up. You can see that he's
Speaker 1: most likely somebody who is a very well placed informatist
Speaker 1: to what is happening inside the government. You can see
Speaker 1: that when he submitted things about his own past, that
Speaker 1: those things had been protected by the media. This bloke
Speaker 1: is slick. This bloke most likely will end up as
Speaker 1: a leader. This bloke will end up in a place
Speaker 1: in Australian history whereas people like me understandably forgotten. And
Speaker 1: they will build, no doubt, some monument to this bloke
Speaker 1: at some point in time, because that's the way the
Speaker 1: Left goes. They name arenas after people like John Kin
Speaker 1: who destroyed Victoria. They make a statue for people like
Speaker 1: Daniel Andrews. They give him an OAM for services to
Speaker 1: public health when every indisty suggests that it has never
Speaker 1: been worse as a result of the decisions that he
Speaker 1: made during COVID. So we know how they're going to
Speaker 1: treat him. Charmers. But I frankly think the blokes are
Speaker 1: bully and I think that when Ross Green would challenge
Speaker 1: him about whether he had a glass draw or not,
Speaker 1: it was an excellent question and a wonderful example about
Speaker 1: the true state of the bloke who wants to tell
Speaker 1: you everything is up when it's really down. He wants
Speaker 1: to pretend that in the last election everything with cost
Speaker 1: of living was personal about Josh Fridenberg and Scott Morrison.
Speaker 1: Yet everything about cost of living nothing to do with him.
Speaker 1: It's cyclical. It's Trump. He's already setting up that for
Speaker 1: the next four years everything's going to be Trump. And
Speaker 1: as I showed you last night, he's intergenerational report that
Speaker 1: told us the Australian federal budget will be in deficit
Speaker 1: for the rest of the twenty twenties. All of the
Speaker 1: twenty thirties, all of the twenty forties, all of the
Speaker 1: twenty fifties, and as far into the twenty sixties as
Speaker 1: they can predict. That report came out not when Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was in charge, but when Donald Trump was being
Speaker 1: charged with crimes that if Georgia got its way, would
Speaker 1: have seen him go to jar for the rest of
Speaker 1: his life. On over, it's Donald Trump is going to
Speaker 1: ruin everything. That's the prediction that we are that bad,
Speaker 1: that that bloke has designed a system so bad, are
Speaker 1: budgets so weak that it's in deficit for forty years
Speaker 1: on her But it's all Trump's fault. And you watch
Speaker 1: the media who just love love being able to pretend
Speaker 1: that this election is all about Trump when you and
Speaker 1: I both know it is all about the people who
Speaker 1: have made this joint worse in the past three years,
Speaker 1: and given the chance to do it again, there is
Speaker 1: no indication that they would do anything but the same.
Speaker 1: Remember the real cost of labor, the numbers they can't spin,
Speaker 1: the things they can't get away from. Fifty four thousand
Speaker 1: people lost their job last month. One point six million
Speaker 1: homes are in mortgage stress tonight. Two out of three
Speaker 1: can't afford their rent, three million people on the verge
Speaker 1: of homelessness, three point seven million households will run out
Speaker 1: of food this week, twenty nine, five hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: one small businesses go bust, the highest supermarket prices ever,
Speaker 1: the highest taxes on alcohol smokers, petrol, budget deficits for
Speaker 1: the next forty years, and one point two trillion dollars
Speaker 1: of debt. And by the way, if you think I'm
Speaker 1: making it up, I've got the sources. And they're not
Speaker 1: far right wing think tanks. They're food bank, they're the
Speaker 1: Bureau of Statistics. That's the true cost of this idiot.
Speaker 1: This idiot who thinks that he can lie and bully
Speaker 1: and bs is. Oh well, let's have a respectful conversation.
Speaker 1: I can't stand the blog, but if Australia decides to
Speaker 1: rehire them for three years, don't come to me and complain.
Speaker 1: As for the People's Forum, and another little thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to mention last night, one hundred people in that room.
Speaker 1: They are the undecided. Interestingly, we got to hear from
Speaker 1: what some of those people had to say after they
Speaker 1: walked out and awarded the win to Anthony ABERNEESI. Remember
Speaker 1: forty four. I think it was thirty five for Dutton
Speaker 1: and twenty something left over as undecided. This is what
Speaker 1: they said about what they thought of the night and
Speaker 1: who they might end up actually voting for.
Speaker 6: I think there was a lot said but not a
Speaker 6: lot of action.
Speaker 8: But I think overall Dundon was a great orator.
Speaker 6: But I think Albanesi's policies just bet a lot more
Speaker 6: sense to me.
Speaker 8: At this stage.
Speaker 7: I do believe Alben easy better presented and how he
Speaker 7: presenting the policies towards the audience.
Speaker 6: Peter Dutton better of the tomb but I'm still not
Speaker 6: sure I vote for either of them.
Speaker 1: I think I'll vote for Dutton.
Speaker 6: I'm a more a right wing person, and yeah, I
Speaker 6: thought he did well.
Speaker 1: God love the Truckies. But the reality is there are
Speaker 1: probably millions of people who genuinely don't know what they're
Speaker 1: going to do, and even after watching the extra changed tonight,
Speaker 1: may will be frustrated and say, okay, we've seen two debates.
Speaker 1: Four blokes. Problem right, and that is the lane that
Speaker 1: many people are going to run when it comes to
Speaker 1: this election. And we know there are plenty of options
Speaker 1: on the ballot paper for that particular lane. But about
Speaker 1: that group of undecided people who don't watch shows like this,
Speaker 1: which doesn't mean they're dmbe or disinterested, got something else.
Speaker 1: They're more interested in something else than the hardcore politics
Speaker 1: that we present to discuss and debate each and every night.
Speaker 1: You know, they're offered the foot of the park wherever
Speaker 1: it happens to be good luck to them great And
Speaker 1: as we've seen when it comes to the undecided voters,
Speaker 1: Paul say, about thirteen percent of people have absolutely no
Speaker 1: idea who they're going to vote for. Another thirty five
Speaker 1: percent of people could apparently change their mind, meaning that
Speaker 1: what forty eight percent of people may will be movable
Speaker 1: in the next little while. So I was interested when
Speaker 1: the ABC did their own focus group with undecided voters.
Speaker 1: They use the same people that we use here each
Speaker 1: and every Sunday night would start of the race. It's
Speaker 1: the Red Bridge organization. This is what some people said
Speaker 1: about the Prime Minister or the alternative, Anthony Abernezi. He's
Speaker 1: a good politician, I'll give him man. He's got a
Speaker 1: cool name. That's about it. To be honest, I don't
Speaker 1: have much information to form an opinion. I have heard
Speaker 1: him speak just randomly, but I haven't found him charismatic
Speaker 1: or believable. I guess I just found him appearing dodgy
Speaker 1: like most politicians. In my opinion, those were undecided voters
Speaker 1: in a Melbourne seat talking to a group that was
Speaker 1: put together by Redbridge and paid for by the OBC.
Speaker 1: What do they say about Peter Dutton. There's a common
Speaker 1: sentiment expressed by Linda. I think, whether you're like him
Speaker 1: or you don't like him, a leader is about standing
Speaker 1: for what you're going to do and following through with that.
Speaker 1: Even when people don't seem to care for all of
Speaker 1: Dutton's policies, they seem to respect him more for his conviction.
Speaker 1: Says the article, he didn't want to stand and do
Speaker 1: a press conference because they had an indigenous flag, so
Speaker 1: he's conservative in that way. I don't necessarily agree with that,
Speaker 1: but at least he's got a stance. He's willing to
Speaker 1: put it out there and say what it is that
Speaker 1: he stands for. In short, this group sees him as
Speaker 1: more authentic than the Prime minister. That's the conclusion of
Speaker 1: a group of people put together by Redbridge, paid for
Speaker 1: by the ABC. Undercided voters in Victoria In short, this
Speaker 1: group sees him, as I said, as a more authentic
Speaker 1: person the Prime Minister. He knows what he wants, he
Speaker 1: knows what he represents. I think that's very real and
Speaker 1: different personality from our current leader. As I would often say,
Speaker 1: nothing to see here, this election's over the books or
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right? Maybe not. We'll all wait and see,
Speaker 1: we'll all learn together, and we will all ride every
Speaker 1: minute of every hour here on Sky News between now
Speaker 1: and then, Stephen Conroy, Broman, Bishop bel duke it out
Speaker 1: next Meegan Kelly before we're done Wednesday night. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it here on Sky News. Thanks for watching now,
Speaker 1: marking around enough from me, Bromin, Bishop carry out a
Speaker 1: champ on a Wednesday and he gets s but he
Speaker 1: comes back to Troitch and every week we love you.
Speaker 1: Stephen Conroy here to help all right. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you both the question that is the same question
Speaker 1: that we've all been asked privately in the past little while,
Speaker 1: depending on a pole, a bookie, a sense, a reaction
Speaker 1: in your gut. Is this election over? Stephen Conroy? Do
Speaker 1: you think that the bottoming out, the build back, the
Speaker 1: momentum so now it's a conversation between minority and majority,
Speaker 1: not a conversation about first terming.
Speaker 11: Look, I'm certainly not in the we can win a
Speaker 11: majority camp yet I think Peter Dutton's had just a
Speaker 11: very tough some would say a horror four or five weeks.
Speaker 11: I think he stabilized the ship on Tuesday night. I
Speaker 11: think he was solid. I think there were no knockout blows,
Speaker 11: and I think he's rebalanced his campaign and now has
Speaker 11: a chance to take it forward when people forget albout
Speaker 11: had a shocking first week before he caught COVID in
Speaker 11: the last election. So is it possible to recover from
Speaker 11: a tough few weeks. I think the poles will tighten,
Speaker 11: but I don't at this stage have a Labor majority.
Speaker 11: I think Labor have been favored for the last few
Speaker 11: months to form a minority government. The question is is
Speaker 11: it a big minority, meaning they need a load of
Speaker 11: independencent Tails and Greens and all together to govern? Or
Speaker 11: do they just need and they can pick and choose.
Speaker 11: But no, Petter Dutton was solid on Tuesday night and
Speaker 11: I think he won the debate. But he was solid
Speaker 11: and he's got a chance now to go forward.
Speaker 1: Bromen is the selection.
Speaker 5: Over no, and there's always the possibility of albow yet
Speaker 5: again making a big slip up. You've got an archy today.
Speaker 5: That's not a good sign. He's been sweetness and light now,
Speaker 5: so I know it's certainly all over.
Speaker 1: What about your sense about coalition supporters and their sense
Speaker 1: of you know, where they were a month ago versus
Speaker 1: where they are now. What do you say to them?
Speaker 5: Well, I've been talking to them, and interestingly enough, just
Speaker 5: in my local patch, I had somebody ring up and say,
Speaker 5: can we have some core flute in our garden please?
Speaker 5: And by the way, I'm going to talk for a
Speaker 5: couple of neighbors they might like them too, and they did.
Speaker 5: So there is a feeling that people want change, they
Speaker 5: want to know that it can get better, and that's
Speaker 5: the job that both dots and angers have to get
Speaker 5: out there. I thought the debate tonight was very interesting.
Speaker 5: I thought the tenor of the voices and the what
Speaker 5: was said counted. From the treasurer the snake charmer, we
Speaker 5: got the usual snake oil.
Speaker 1: Salesman pitch, respectful.
Speaker 5: It just makes me get angry to watch it and
Speaker 5: out I'm the same Shiblers it's a commentary on what's
Speaker 5: going on. There's nothing in there that you can take
Speaker 5: out as a concrete now and that says something positive.
Speaker 5: It's adjectives, it's adverbs, it's abstract nouns. It just makes
Speaker 5: me angry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Stephen, what do you think of that as a contest?
Speaker 1: And again, right hardcore economic conversation. You know, people with
Speaker 1: the economics degree like yourself, you can have it. Obviously
Speaker 1: it's a different one than a leader's debate. But you know,
Speaker 1: I like Ross green Wood kind of making it uncomfortable
Speaker 1: for both of them at times. But I also think
Speaker 1: that to me, the personality of Charmers became very clear,
Speaker 1: and at times the weakness of Taylor became clear.
Speaker 11: I think that's that's a good description. Ross certainly unsettled
Speaker 11: both of them. I mean, I'm biased by definition. I
Speaker 11: think Jim did a very solid job and he really
Speaker 11: presented Labour's credentials. I think Angus has had a bad
Speaker 11: few weeks, probably even longer. I don't think he's put
Speaker 11: out enough policy. I think he's exposed on making claims
Speaker 11: around how he's going to somehow get gas to mysteriously
Speaker 11: move from Queensland to the state of New South Wales
Speaker 11: and Victoria without any costing on it, which I think
Speaker 11: is a legitimate criticism. How does it actually get the
Speaker 11: gas from Queensland when he's reserved it into the well
Speaker 11: Victorian markets so he can help lower prices as he claims.
Speaker 11: I think he's got a.
Speaker 1: Serious hole there.
Speaker 11: He does have a very serious hole in his nuclear policy.
Speaker 11: So he had a couple of really tough ones to defend.
Speaker 11: But to give him credit, I thought he did a
Speaker 11: very solid job as well. I thought that was the
Speaker 11: best performance I've seen from Angus in many, many, many months.
Speaker 5: Are one of the most important things about it is
Speaker 5: getting the argument out that the cut in the text
Speaker 5: on petrol is here, it is now, It's immediate, and it.
Speaker 1: Does relieve twelve months.
Speaker 5: Right now. Let me give you an example, Steven. Let
Speaker 5: me give you an.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it.
Speaker 5: A friend of mine was in a garage the other
Speaker 5: day and in came a prime mover to fill up.
Speaker 5: That prime mover costs two and a half thousand dollars
Speaker 5: with diesel. Now the cut to the cost take that
Speaker 5: twenty five cents of somewhere. My mask may not be
Speaker 5: the greatest, but it's three round, three hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: dollars every time he fills up that truck.
Speaker 1: That truck is.
Speaker 5: Moving your food. It's moving cattle, it's moving sheep, it's
Speaker 5: moving produce. It moves as I've set off before for
Speaker 5: twelve monks, the apple from the from the from me.
Speaker 1: It's not afi not the point.
Speaker 5: It brings it down immediately.
Speaker 1: It's an immediate effect. It's what people want.
Speaker 5: It's not a sugar head.
Speaker 1: Is that the case? About the energy rebate which is
Speaker 1: only for twelve more months?
Speaker 11: Steven, Well, we've already renewed it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: So they will renew it, but they've only got one
Speaker 1: cost for one year. I got you there.
Speaker 11: Peter Dunton needs to come clean to understand it.
Speaker 5: You need to be honest that your treasure tails fibbs.
Speaker 1: So your big FIBs. Yeah, So Charmers twelve months versus
Speaker 1: Taylors twelve months, Olbost twelve months versus Dunton's all right.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a poll, and I don't
Speaker 1: know whether you want to bet the household on this,
Speaker 1: but apparently an independent has got quite a vote which
Speaker 1: is coming in the seat of McMahon, and there would
Speaker 1: be quite the change because blackout Bowen would lose his seat. Bromwin.
Speaker 1: The numbers are that the ALP primary voters apparently at nineteen,
Speaker 1: which is not true, the Independence is at forty one,
Speaker 1: which is not true, and the Liberal Parties is at twenty,
Speaker 1: which is not true. But this is not one of
Speaker 1: those Muslim Muslim votes candidates. This is somebody who's a
Speaker 1: little closer to the Diele model. And we know that
Speaker 1: the Labor Party machine got beat we're closer to Bromwe yeah,
Speaker 1: well this is it. But what's your thoughts here about
Speaker 1: whether again, well, we're all talking Nash one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty one races and the odd little surprise in a
Speaker 1: place like Western Sydney where a different type of candidate
Speaker 1: might be the one who they want to go with
Speaker 1: rather than the union boy from Well.
Speaker 5: I think the nation would cheer if it happened, and
Speaker 5: maybe a Labor Party would cheer because what comes out of.
Speaker 1: That man's mouth is just unbelievable.
Speaker 5: And this passion that says your energy is gained be
Speaker 5: cheaper because we are building poles and wires right across
Speaker 5: the nation. I mean, it justifies logic that every time
Speaker 5: there is greater so called renewables put into the system,
Speaker 5: the cost of electricity goes up, not down. And yet
Speaker 5: we get this perpetual lie that the more we put in, the.
Speaker 1: Cheaper will become.
Speaker 5: It just doesn't happen. So I think maybe everyone would
Speaker 5: be quite pleased if somebody else got the seat.
Speaker 1: Stephen, You've seen plenty of poles in your time. Would
Speaker 1: you be willing to you know? And I don't know
Speaker 1: whether you do it. Don't have an affiliation with sports bit,
Speaker 1: but Jesus is quite a nod for a surprise in
Speaker 1: that seat if if.
Speaker 11: That result happens, I will wear that jacket you're wearing
Speaker 11: on camera.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is This is a pole done.
Speaker 11: I think it says by text text, you know, like
Speaker 11: texteds your response. I mean, it's got to be the
Speaker 11: most unreliable pole that has turned up in some number
Speaker 11: of elections. So I think I'm safe from wearing your
Speaker 11: jacket on airport.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with this jacket, even though I think
Speaker 1: that you end up swimming, because we all know that
Speaker 1: side by side, it's to be able to wear it
Speaker 1: like a very loud well, you know, my mates love it,
Speaker 1: and I'll gladly do it. All right, Now, let's talk
Speaker 1: here about where we are in the state of politics.
Speaker 1: When you sit at eperduper price is going to get
Speaker 1: out on the road. We spoke to her on Sunday
Speaker 1: night because she is such a weapon and she is
Speaker 1: so effective, remember turning sixty forty yes to sixty forty No.
Speaker 1: She's been very strong. She'd be exactly the type of
Speaker 1: person I honestly believe the majority Australians want in a cabinet,
Speaker 1: sitting around helping form the policy of the nation. But
Speaker 1: wherever she goes, protesters follow, which means bullies follow, and
Speaker 1: those bullies get quite serious. And now whenever she goes
Speaker 1: somewhere there has to be extra police, extra security. Bromman,
Speaker 1: what does it say about our country that somebody who
Speaker 1: is strong gets that sort of reception when she is
Speaker 1: not a figure of hate, She's not a figure out
Speaker 1: there sort of dog whistling on anything nasty. She just
Speaker 1: is an absolute disruption to a very comfortable system that's
Speaker 1: run for a very long time.
Speaker 5: I think there's something really different about this. You said,
Speaker 5: he has been very passionate about the violence. That's perpetrated
Speaker 5: on Aboriginal women, and she's been very critical of a
Speaker 5: particular group which has put out a statement saying that
Speaker 5: no one should should suggest that there's a it's part
Speaker 5: of the culture. Now, I just wonder, with these people
Speaker 5: who are protesting against a center do it against a man?
Speaker 5: Why are they doing it because she's a woman. And
Speaker 5: I can't help thinking that that's true.
Speaker 1: It's a disgrace. And I thoo an intimidation, no question,
Speaker 1: and threats against many candidates.
Speaker 5: She is a woman of courage. She has seen what
Speaker 5: happens in her communities. She knows what is done, and
Speaker 5: she knows what has to be done to stop it happening.
Speaker 5: And I don't think the people who are protesting against
Speaker 5: her like that good point. And I think it's got
Speaker 5: nothing to do with the fact that she's a potential
Speaker 5: leader in this nation, that she's got a great ability
Speaker 5: to contribute right across so many issues. I think she's
Speaker 5: being singled out because she's an Aboriginal war woman of descent.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, amount of time longer next week, I promise,
Speaker 1: all right. That means me less rattling at the start,
Speaker 1: But I do a love a chat each and every
Speaker 1: week with both of you. Thank you, Steven, you got
Speaker 1: so close. But alas carry over champ has always probablyship
Speaker 1: and this jacket. Don't worry, It's safe on me, but
Speaker 1: I'd just love to see you wearing it at one
Speaker 1: time at a Collingwood game. All right, quick break back
Speaker 1: with more Meghan Kelly next here on Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching. Wednesday nights? How good are they? Our
Speaker 1: favorite time of the week to talk to about favorite
Speaker 1: person in the world. Meghan Kelly, how are you hi?
Speaker 2: How are you really good?
Speaker 1: Really good? Now? According to the news and the establishment,
Speaker 1: the sky's falling, Trump's destroying the economy, ending his own presidency.
Speaker 1: But then you have a look at an opinion poll
Speaker 1: released today and it shows his approval is going up.
Speaker 2: I'm so over this game, you know. Like, Okay, First
Speaker 2: of all, it's very clear when you're four oh one
Speaker 2: k your retirement account is going up and down, up
Speaker 2: and down, day after day. There's only one rule, and
Speaker 2: that is don't do anything. Do not sell. You haven't
Speaker 2: lost one penny unless you sell. And we've been through
Speaker 2: this so many times. It will level out, it will
Speaker 2: steady itself and will be fine, that's what's happened. Every
Speaker 2: time they're acting like the people who are living off
Speaker 2: of their retirement accounts, like go cash in one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars of it on Monday so that they can live
Speaker 2: on Tuesday. That's not generally how one's retirement account works. Generally,
Speaker 2: one can wait a week before they have to make
Speaker 2: a decision on it. And I just like this is
Speaker 2: more about wanting to panic or wanting to hate Trump.
Speaker 2: You know, there are some people who love drama. You know,
Speaker 2: my daughter when she was younger, like you know, eleven,
Speaker 2: would be like, I love drama and all her you know,
Speaker 2: little whatever they were at third grade friends at the time,
Speaker 2: whatever you are when you're they're eleven, would say, oh,
Speaker 2: we love drama, you know, fifth grade, sixth ring. Then
Speaker 2: you grow out of that, unless you're a leftist, in
Speaker 2: which case you stay addicted to drama forever and you
Speaker 2: come up with imaginary ailments that you have. And this
Speaker 2: is kind of one of those, because a lot of
Speaker 2: these people aren't hurting at all. They just love drama
Speaker 2: and anything that makes Trump look bad so much the better.
Speaker 2: And QE. The renewed talk of the coalition is breaking
Speaker 2: it's finally happening. He's finally going to go down. Okay,
Speaker 2: I have news for you. The coalition was always broken.
Speaker 2: The establishment Republicans never loved Trump. They were brought into
Speaker 2: the Trump fold kicking and screaming, where they remain. I mean,
Speaker 2: you read some of these right wing publications that don't
Speaker 2: like Trump, and you'd think you were reading the Huffington
Speaker 2: Post these days, even before the whole Terrift story. So
Speaker 2: they're loving it. It's like, we told you he was bad,
Speaker 2: he's wrong, he was the wrong choice. You didn't listen,
Speaker 2: and now we're stuck with this guy. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: So those of us who supported Trump and understood Trump
Speaker 2: and who aren't really all that ideological, like, well, I
Speaker 2: am a free trader and therefore I cannot support a tariff.
Speaker 2: Some of us are like, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: know what's what's the arform gonna do? Okay, can we
Speaker 2: give it? So we're not outraged. And I think Trump's base,
Speaker 2: which is that bottom half, those of the I could
Speaker 2: take out a gun and shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue
Speaker 2: and they wouldn't leave me. Voters of Trump's that this
Speaker 2: is who this whole thing is for. So no, they're
Speaker 2: not going to leave Trump. And while the elites are
Speaker 2: irritated as they watch their you know, thirty million dollar
Speaker 2: fortunes slip down to twenty seven, the bottom half of
Speaker 2: the country sees a real shot at improving their lives,
Speaker 2: which is why he was re elected. So I'm having
Speaker 2: a lot of difficulty getting all worked up about the market,
Speaker 2: which if you've been in news long enough, you know
Speaker 2: it does this thing called go up, go down, and
Speaker 2: then go back up again.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this hands off movement. These are the
Speaker 1: lunatics that set fire to Tesla's all, apparently in the
Speaker 1: name of wanting to protect public servants. Well, you've had
Speaker 1: a bit of a deep dive into who is actually
Speaker 1: behind these groups, and surprise, surprise, it's all the colors
Speaker 1: of the crazy rainbow.
Speaker 2: It's every leftist group you've ever heard about, from Planned
Speaker 2: Parenthood to the ACLU to the Human Rights Campaign. What
Speaker 2: are they doing out there? You know, like I thought
Speaker 2: that they were for like trans people. Now I thought
Speaker 2: this tans off thing was about Elon and Doge I
Speaker 2: like pick your lane, pick your protest. It's this indivisible
Speaker 2: which has gotten all this money from Soros and other
Speaker 2: left wing billionaires. It's all astro turf. They have these
Speaker 2: professional protesters who they call up. They're like, okay, this weekend,
Speaker 2: it's DC. Okay, what's the cause? Hands off? How many
Speaker 2: times we have to see this movie?
Speaker 1: Just don't believe them.
Speaker 2: Stop believing them. Don't believe the astro turf protests. Don't
Speaker 2: believe the lying media that plays it up. Don't believe
Speaker 2: the idiot polsters who tell us that Kamala Harris is
Speaker 2: up three in Iowa right before the presidential election. Just
Speaker 2: don't believe them. You have to go on instinct at
Speaker 2: this point. You know, we've had ten years of trump
Speaker 2: Mania that should teach us how to respond. And the
Speaker 2: lessons are all in here. They're all in your gut.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what your brain is telling you based
Speaker 2: on what you've read in the Washington Post. Go buy
Speaker 2: what's in your gut, because your gut will tell you
Speaker 2: the truth, which is this is bullshit meant to manipulate
Speaker 2: you good and plenty in time for the mid terms
Speaker 2: or the special elections.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you. All I want,
Speaker 1: in my view, is some sort of confirmation that this
Speaker 1: is the worst president of all whatever. Who cares speaking
Speaker 1: of one of the worst of all time. Joe Biden
Speaker 1: books have come out in the past couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: We haven't had much of a chance to talk about them.
Speaker 1: But DyLight, what we already knew, what we were tall
Speaker 1: with Dake Fikes and Chape Fikes, that the block was
Speaker 1: this closed to death in the funnel.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they don't. I'm sure it's like they're onto
Speaker 2: the phase of Democrat messaging of we all knew that, right.
Speaker 2: It's first, it's always there is. It's not happening, it
Speaker 2: is not happening. And then it's well, it might be happening,
Speaker 2: but the other side did it too. Okay, it's happening,
Speaker 2: but this is old news. Everybody already knew that it
Speaker 2: was happening, so we're not interested. Like, so, okay, we're
Speaker 2: onto that phase now. And look, they're not going to
Speaker 2: stop the retrospectives. They've all hit print and they're really
Speaker 2: ugly for President Biden and the press corps and his
Speaker 2: inner circle, and now his inner circle's running like rats
Speaker 2: off the ship to whatever media huckster will take them
Speaker 2: to say, oh I knew I knew. I was really
Speaker 2: concerned behind the scenes, like, okay, how does that help you?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have more respect for the woman who
Speaker 2: was on c and then the other night who was
Speaker 2: on Team Biden in the White House saying or in
Speaker 2: the campaign saying I didn't know. I wish i'd known.
Speaker 2: I kind of believed them when they said he was fine.
Speaker 2: I didn't spend that much time with him. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: probably closer to like what's real. So no one's going
Speaker 2: to be able to save themselves. Like they lost the
Speaker 2: presidency because of this nonsense. They actually might have had
Speaker 2: a shot had they had an early primary and elected
Speaker 2: a strong Democrat. But look, I'm not surprised that the
Speaker 2: ladies of the View don't care. You know, they're very
Speaker 2: busy over there looking for an extra IQ point so
Speaker 2: they can get into the triple digits. They don't have
Speaker 2: time to read books.
Speaker 1: Paul, all the best to you make them. We'll see again,
Speaker 1: Nix White.
Speaker 2: You too, Paul, see you soon.
Speaker 1: And if they haven't found it, they'd probably use it
Speaker 1: as an injectable to make their face even less expressionless.
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