WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 9 April 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:05.000 From the Sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.719 Thank you, Sherry, thank you very much, James and everyone 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:10.520 else who's watching us right now. I do appreciate it. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:12.440 Welcome and come along to the man Cave, because one 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:14.680 heck of a night we've got for you tonight. Fine night, 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.959 Team Red, Team Blue. They're gonna go in hard bug 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.279 of the polls, forget the bookies. They both think there's 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.840 a chance of winning their teams of this election. Side brombership, 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.600 Stephen Conroy and some fun. It doesn't get better than 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.040 Megan Kelly and she is on the show tonight from 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:30.960 the United States. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.919 It's all astro turf. They have these professional protesters who 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.560 they call up and they're like, okay, this weekend, it's DC, Okay, 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.120 what's the cause? Hands off? Oh is that a me 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.840 too thing? I like the new messaging. No, it's about 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.960 doge what okay? Just get out there and look angry. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.040 I'm on it. And that's what happens. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.200 And the next big event is, of course tomorrow National 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.480 Press Club when it comes to the energy ministers, and 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.280 then get ready, sparks will fly. No one will pull 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.640 a punch. They'll hit as hard as possible in the 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.160 Mavericks debate. The pub test that will be done from Tweedtheads, 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.920 Mighty Tweeedtheads. It's in New South Wales. It's close enough 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:14.319 to Queensland. So Matt Canavan, Bobcatter, Pauline Hansen, they are 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.920 going to be juking it out. Pub test. It's skynews 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.280 dot com dot are you if you can join us 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.360 in the room Monday night at nine o'clock it's in 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.319 Tweetheads pub test. It's skyews dot com that are you? 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.880 What's your question for the people who you know will 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.440 give the answers they want to, not the ones that 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.080 the spin doctors or the media managers say are the 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.280 right ones to give. They'll just give you the honest 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.840 and the straight the Mavericks Monday Night. It'll be amazing. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.679 Tell you one of my favorite things that we get 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.760 to do of the campaign. Your chance to be in 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.080 the room by sending me an email for next Monday 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.680 with your question for Bobcatter, Pauline Hanson, Matt Canavan. Pubtest 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.840 it's skynews dot com dot Au. Twenty four days to 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.880 go in the electoral contest. It is thirteen days now 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.800 less than two weeks before the first votes will be cast. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:59.960 As I say, the majority of people will vote early 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.200 this election, so the election will be in two parts, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:04.920 the one of the people who turn up before election 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:06.960 day the people who turned up on election day. Which 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.640 is why pretty much everything will be settled by the 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.680 launches of the parties, which happen here on Sunday. Full 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.080 coverage of course from dawn dell dusk and all in 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.320 between when it comes to things here on Sky News. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.360 As for what took place today, well, the Prime Minister 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.480 he spent some time in Sydney before making his way 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.640 up to the far north of Queensland. He was in 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.960 Cans today. This is after well, just meeting the people, 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.959 and by that I mean a pre arranged photo op 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.160 pretending you went to the markets and mixed it up 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.160 with people. The reality was of course all pre planned 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.000 about who you shake your hands, that's the way it works. 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.040 And of course once he got to Queensland, there's only 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.480 one way to win an election, and that's by one right. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.959 We will provide two hundred and forty five million dollars 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.040 for a new Barren River Bridge on the Kennedy Highway 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:51.919 and to all of those that. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.520 Are keeping score about who is spending what and who 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.639 is promising. Can you include every promise that's been made 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.200 since the start of the year, because though those are 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.399 the big ones, those are where the billions of dollars are, 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.320 and thankfully we're keeping track of the more than forty 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.480 five billion dollars were the promises that had been made 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:11.520 by this bloke so far. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:17.079 A seven point two billion dollar announcement today five million dollars, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.880 ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.160 three hundred and fifty million dollars, two billion dollars, thirty 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.320 seven million dollar, eight hundred and forty two million dollar, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.280 two point four billion dollars, eight point five billion dollar, 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.920 four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars, three point 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:39.080 four billion dollars, two point eight billion dollars, two hundred 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.920 million dollar, one hundred and fifty million dollars, one billion dollars, 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.560 two hundred and forty five million dollars. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:47.960 Now, because we were focused on the People's Forum, which 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.720 was awesome last night, didn't get a chance to tell 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.760 you about something that happened on the trail yesterday, but 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.640 it was so weird. I've got to show you tonight 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.360 he was making an announcement when it comes to more 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.360 support when it comes to mental health. You'll never hear 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.080 me arguing aga against well treveling of every promise that 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.440 gets made by all sides. You can't throw enough at 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.480 the resourcing here. But one of the people who was 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.360 brought along as a backup for the Prime Minister to 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.960 say his plan was fantastic is the former Strainer of 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.400 the Year, Professor Patrick mcgory. Now I love this bloke. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.520 He and he and Hickey the professor have done great 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:22.040 things with the organization headspace. And he was asked a 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.760 question that was meant to be a knockout blow on 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.520 the behalf of the Labor Party. Instead the Professor, well, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.280 he hit right back and it ended up being well this. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.760 Do you think going into this selection that the coalition 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.960 has a worse mental health policy on the table. Do 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.159 you think they're going to cut mental health spending? 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:43.400 I know, I don't think they will. I think the 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.640 problems has already mentioned that this is generally speaking a 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:52.560 bipartisan achievement of our country. Aunt well done, professor Pat. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.120 He's not going to get pushed around. He's the type 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.000 of person who, like many mental health advocates, are going 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.320 to go anywhere where somebody's going to promise more resources. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.400 But he's not going to get involved in the politics 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.520 that's saying this side that's yes, lots of money on 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.880 the table. And good on him for having the courage 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:08.680 as he does to stand up in front of the 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.120 nation's press, in front of the Prime minister and tell 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.520 the truth, not to propagate the political lies. As for 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.440 the opposition leader, and I'll get to his emotional twenty 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.960 four hours in a moment's time, he made a major 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.600 announcement today and that was how many people will they 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.800 cut immigration by? The number is. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.600 Are you still committed to that one hundred thousand deeper cut? 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.880 And if so, yeah, so in relation your question is 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.680 in relation to the non we can reduce the non 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:36.960 by one hundred thousand. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.359 All right? Well, as always the media, well they have 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.080 to spin it one way. Why because they like the 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.919 arrangements they currently have. They like the relationships with the 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.359 side of politics that they probably vote for, if not 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.919 most likely the ones that the Greens give their preferences to, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.800 that of course, being the Labor Party every single day, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.080 no matter the city, in a manga matter the location, 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.200 the people who should be holding his feet to the fire, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.599 who should be calling bs, not because they're lefties or righties, 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.560 but because that's the job of interrogating. When somebody stands 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.159 up with the policy, find the way to pick the 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.200 hole in it, or when they turn around and say 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:10.760 we're definitely going to do this thing that we haven't 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.560 done for the past three years, point out, why haven't 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.760 youve done it for the past three years? Oh no, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.279 this mob is just rolling along doing the pr for 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:18.679 the bloke. 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.560 We're in an area that has been l and p 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.320 harhland for a long time. Does Labor intend to take 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:24.720 this back? 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.320 Since we last spoke. President Trump has also said that 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.640 his had world leaders on the phone to him, quote 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.440 kissing his ass. You haven't been one of them? Are 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.920 you now vindicated field decision not to pick up the 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.360 phone and call him, as Peter Dunton has been questing. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.320 Please, But of course, for Peter Duddon, he's not allowed 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.640 to have stopped the bleeding at the People's Forum like 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.159 many people believe he has. They're not allowing him to 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.240 get out of first gear. They won't let him get 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.080 on the attack because if he gets on the attack, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.640 then he could disrupt their comfortable little arrangement with the 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.159 handsome boy that China loves. 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.960 What is your response to concern that you're not taking 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.720 a comprehensive economic manifesto to the election, all laid out 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.800 how you're going to tackle structural deficits at spending. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.200 Are you concerned that talking about of migration might hurt 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.640 you in these restless, inny multicultural seats that you need 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.160 to remp is the earliest people will see retail gusts 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:20.000 and electricity prices go down under yours. You know, I 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:25.120 love this game. For three years. Every single time I 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.560 have talked about the need for the cut in immigration, 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.480 I say what I truly believe. But it is an 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.680 important thing to say each and every time. It's not 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.240 about who comes, It's not about from where they come. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.560 It's not about from what they believe. It is about 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.040 adding the best part of two million people to every 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.000 queue that exists in Australia, from a childcare center to 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.560 ambulance ramping, to rental cues to people putting their hands 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.080 up to buy a house. That's why you have to 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.440 pump the brakes now. You can't go all the way 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.600 to zero. Why because you do have to make sure 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.440 that you have people who have practical skills to be 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.080 able to come to the country. But you have to 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.440 reduce the number because the infrastructure does not match the 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.120 record number of people that have been brought in by 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:14.560 this government. Peter duddon last night before the nation's eyes, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.760 made it very clear that it wasn't some dog whistle 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.760 about they're the wrong color, they believe in the wrong thing, 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.800 they speak a different language. No, heylike any sensible reasonable 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.280 person understands, and in a nation of immigrants, immigrants are 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:34.280 the past, present future of the country. We should all 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.920 adhere to the idea that the Lord of the land 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:37.840 is more important than every faith. But again that's not 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:42.040 part of the conversation. The reason immigration needs to be 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:46.000 cut back is because of every single person that is 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:51.160 added to every single thing that you q for at 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.160 every point of the day, from how long the traffic 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.600 jam is to how many people are competing for a 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.560 rental home. That's why it matters, and that's why Peter 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.800 Dutton is in exactly the right place. This idea that 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.200 to mention it somehow is having a go at people 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.240 of different cultures is garbage and it is a perfect 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.320 example about how the media loves to spin the ball, 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:16.520 surprisingly always to the left. Now, let's talk about the 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.800 incredible emotion of the past twenty four hours for Peter Dutton. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.720 Andrew Bolt told us just before the debate last night 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.640 about what the turmoil was that Peter Dutton was dealing with, because, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.719 as you know, his dad had had a heart attack. Now, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.960 in that moment, when your dad is of a certain 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.640 age and you get news like that, you don't know 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.480 what the next call is going to be after that. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.480 For him to be able to go out there and 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.480 perform the way that he did is an absolute credit 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.160 to him as a human being, regardless of eating in 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:45.640 a vote for him or not vote for him, whether 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.400 you hate him on TikTok, or whether you love him 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.680 on Facebook. That was a strong example of the type 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.720 of pressure test that a prime minister has to go under. Thankfully, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.719 Bruce apparently is okay, but for anyone who's had to 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.000 go through something like that, well you can imagine how 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.000 difficult it was. And he spoke about that today. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.160 Look, I spoke to dad this morning and thank you 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.200 for a question and asking about him. He's doing well, 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.920 he's stoic, he's a tough bugger, he's looked tired all 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.640 of his life, and he's been an amazing dad. So yeah, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.200 of course you think about him. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:24.400 But he's yeah, he's fine, he's doing well. Thank you, 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.760 really nice. Right again, whether you're going to vote for 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.320 him or not, you're like it. But that was a 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.080 lovely human moment, right And as a teen a second, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.160 a lot of undecided voters, they know the difference between 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.040 the genuine person who they may amy not vote for 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.360 and the slick BS machine that currently is on track 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.760 to being able to hold on to government. But I've 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.640 got to say I thought about Peter and his father 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:48.360 today because my little girl had the Easter hat parade 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.640 at her school and I'm pleased to say that my 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.280 dad Ken was with me. And I am very, very 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.520 lucky to be somebody who is able to spend time 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.719 with their dad, who's always had a great relationship with 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.559 their and I know there's lots of people who don't, 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.640 but it is yet again a reminder to us that 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.600 if you've got dad around, reach out, make the time 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.520 because dads are awesome. Dads have sacrificed. I know when 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.720 it came to my father and when I was born 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.160 and they wanted to get a new Telly. He didn't 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:19.839 just work one job. He didn't work two job, he 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.240 worked three. I know how hard he worked to make 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.000 sure that we had a roof over our head and 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.160 meal on the table. And I know the traditional Australian 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.280 values that he has instilled in me that I show 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.800 you on this program Easion every night. So Kenny Dog, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.319 I love you, and the Kenny Dogs all over Australia, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.960 we love you, and we promise plenty more time, not 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.040 just text and phone calls. Let's hang out more often. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.320 I love you Dad. It was so good for you 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.959 to be there, and Zadi just absolutely loved it as 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:49.280 as she did as well. But then let's get to 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.360 a pretty low moment from the media today. This was 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.040 a question that was asked by a Channel seven reporter. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:56.840 And I'm not even going to try to do the 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.400 benefit of the doubt. Now, the question had been asked, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.520 the answer he been given. But this reporter from Channel 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:06.719 seven decided to ask this question this way to a 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.839 bloke whose father had just had a heart attack and 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.040 worst case scenario may well have not made it through 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:13.600 last night. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.320 Campaigns are pressure events for candidates like yourself, but their 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:23.560 pressure events for families of candidates too. Do you worry 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.760 your dad is not being helped and might even have 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.320 been harmed by the fact that he's worried about you? 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.640 I'm sorry, it's a despicable question. I mean, do they 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.720 hate him so much that now they blame him for 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.319 his father's heart attack. I show you this stuff each 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.080 and every night because I want you to see how 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.480 the sausage is made, and just like a butcher will 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.400 tell you, it is not a pretty process. What were 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.520 they trying to do? Were they trying to make him angry? 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.160 Were they trying to make him cry? How is it 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.680 acceptable that that is the question the way that it 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.880 was framed? Now, keep told that particular reporter is one 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.959 of the better ones. Fine, fair enough, but that was 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:08.040 a low blow that was unnecessary, and I can't imagine 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.520 them reacting well if that question was asked to themselves 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:16.000 that day after their own parent had an event that 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.959 may well have killed them. It's just it's low. It's low, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.640 and believe it or not, there's another version of low 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.360 that I've got to talk about here. The People's Forum 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.080 has been happening at sky News now for fifteen years, 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.720 and for more than fifteen years, Sky News has been 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.040 at the absolute heart of Australian politics. We are the 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.600 channel that is on in the MP's offices, it's on 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.040 in the CEO suites, and it's on at your place 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.400 in suburban and regional Australia. Why because we care about 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.840 the detail. Yes, here at night we push very hard 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.640 when it comes to what we believe. But you know, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:56.120 it is what we believe. So of those who don't 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.520 work for this organization, they do everything they can to 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.520 try to turn us into a caricature, something to be ignored, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.720 and they find a one hundred different ways to tell 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.480 you why any and everything that appears here is something 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.640 that you should ignore. Principally, it's because they hate the 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.840 idea that we at times can be an absolute form 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.800 of resistance to the march of the far left through 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:21.520 the cultural institutions and the political conversation. We are people 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:25.720 who want to honor our fathers and grandfathers, mothers, grandmothers, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.080 and want to set up the best possible future for 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.840 our kids and grandkids. We want to make sure that 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.640 whatever generation you are in, we're in a country that 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.960 reflects the one that we always thought it would be, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.240 not one that people want to redesign, not because they 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.240 think it's better, but because they think that it will 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:46.560 create an endless dependence on the center left of Australian politics. 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.920 I hate that every time one of these people turn 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.920 around and has a crack at us, because we defend 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.080 the idea that Anzac Day ceremonies should be compulsory and 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.080 there shouldn't be an opt out option like exists in 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.280 some public schools going into this year. Oh, you're fighting 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.640 a culture war. No, no, no, I'm sorry. We're pushing back. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.720 There are lines in the sand that cannot and should 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.920 not be crossed when it comes to culture, or economics 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.960 or the way of society works. Yet it's just too 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.160 easy to put us in the naughty corner and roll 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:21.520 their eyes collectively. You saw how they laughed, and they 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:25.200 may well laugh at me. That's fine. I've got the 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.360 broad shoulders and I lead with my chin. But I 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.840 get pissed off because they're really laughing at you. They're 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:36.280 laughing at you for watching, They're laughing at you for subscribing, 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.880 They're laughing at you for sharing our content. These are 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.760 the people who did not raise a finger in the 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.360 fight to censor the Internet because they thought it would 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:51.160 be a way of censoring you from having information that 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.760 challenges their version of events. And that's it. The truth 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.520 is the truth. But let's be very clear, as I 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.160 show you every night, you get to see how the 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:05.240 media makes it their version of the truth, how they 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:10.600 lie by omission, how they decide to further political narratives 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.360 for the people that they like, and the types of 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:19.640 resistance they put in place to anyone who challenges it. Now, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.360 way back when when I was just at a radio reporter, 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.280 and again I thought I had my dream job then 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.640 because I was able to work in the medium. I 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.880 grew up listening to the radio on desperately wanting to 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.160 be on it, and I was able to achieve that dream. 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.120 Let alone the one that I get to live every 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.680 single night in your house, and I will forever be thankful, 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.280 and I plan to go nowhere. Ever, I will take 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.480 the man Cave with me wherever, and it will always 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.000 be in connection to Sky News, no question. I appreciate 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.840 that I've been here for fifteen years, but one of 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:50.320 the people who I've got to say I thought I 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.520 got along pretty well with was Lee Sales. Now. Lee Sales, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.200 of course, was the state political reporter for the ABC 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.360 TV for a while that eventually made a way to 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.480 the then standalone host of the seven thirty Report, And 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.840 now she's sort of one of the stars of the ABC, 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.919 and the ABC works in a star system just like 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.600 Channel nine, but without the ads. Remember they care about 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.679 the logies. When thirty years ago Andrew Denton used to 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.080 joke about the logis on the ABC. Now, I think 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.160 this is just snobbish what she said last night while 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.120 she was delivering a analysis for one of the many 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.440 taxpayer funded social media services that is run by the ABC. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.480 Will it change anybody's vote? Probably not, because it was 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.080 broadcast on Sky News, which has a tiny audience, and 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.359 it was behind a paywall. But it will be widely 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.600 analyzed in the rest of the media in coming days, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.840 and it can change photo perceptions that way. 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:45.760 Why now if it's part of some long turf war 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.520 between them and ask us and who cares? I honestly 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.120 thought that she was better than it, and I still 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.800 wish to think that she is better than that because 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.080 I have had no interpersonal interaction with Lee sales, there's 0:17:56.080 --> 0:18:02.119 been anything but positive. That's just unnecessary. I love how 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.040 that audience size becomes something they like to talk about. Yet, 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.000 of course, wouldn't that disqualify any and everything that happens 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.800 on radio National. Oh, of course not, despite the fact 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:13.800 that it is an absolute fraction of a fraction of 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:19.000 a fraction of what people actually listen to on the radio. Now, 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:20.679 I get it, two minion people do not watch the 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.679 show each and every night. But I love each and 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.360 every person who doesn't just watch this show, but commits 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.800 to this show. I make that show for them, not 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.160 for everyone else in the media. It means that your 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.800 career prospects they just disappear and nobody will touching because 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.040 you're too hot and you're two content, don't care, don't 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.920 want to work anywhere else, don't need to work anywhere else. 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.119 This joint will stand for a very very long time, 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.120 and I look forward to being a part of its 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.440 magnificent future. And when you insult this channel, you may 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.639 well think that you are insulting presenters you don't like me, 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.920 but you're also insulting all of the people who work 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.760 for this joint. Young, passionate, creative people, who I hope 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.880 get to go on and live the dream in their 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:04.359 careers like I have been able to. You are better 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:08.919 than that, Lee, but you weren't last night. As for 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.560 the Treasurer's debate that took place this evening, I got 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.960 to say one thing, and one thing very clearly, Thank 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:19.120 goodness for Ross Greenwood. Thank goodness he gave them both 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.760 a tough time. He gave them both a chance to 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.240 deliver an uplifting statement of the country, neither of which did. 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.680 But I've got to say I was just screaming at 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:33.080 the TV at the relentless line when it came to 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.879 Jim Charmers. Now Angus Taylor, smart bloke, but he just 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.840 doesn't deliver a punch. In Australian politics rewards how you 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:44.480 deliver a punch probably better than some of the decisions 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.160 that you make, or in Charmers sense, the ones where 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.200 he doesn't even have to defend himself. But I want 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:52.480 to give you a little bit of an insight into 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.600 what I think the personality of Jim Chalmers is, and 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.720 Jim Chalmers is on a trajectory that if they get 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.399 re elected, nasty nicky Sava over there in the Channel 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.840 nine papers, say albou get another way, charmers next, this 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.520