1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fitting In with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Overnight, we did get an update on the two bodies 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: of Jessebaard and Luke Davies. They were found at one 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: pm yesterday by police. One man who is down at 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: Bongonia at the moment is Alex Henk's from Channel nine 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: and he joins us now. Alex, thank you very much 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: for your time, buddy. 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: That's all right, good team. 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: Alex. Thank you for joining us and obviously giving us 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: the update and where things are at the moment. Can 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: we go back to yesterday? Can you tell us exactly 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: where the bodies were found and located? 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really a rural area. This is bush. 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: I guess it's a simple way of putting at tall trees, 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: long grass it is. It is really a back country road. 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: It's just that sort of BUNGANI. I don't know if 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: you guys know this area very well, but it's about 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: in half an hour outside of Golden. Not much traffic 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: coming along this road. The properties are large, but it's 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: been found that they've been found, as we know, in 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: surf board bags, which is just shocking, just along the 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: fence line, just sort of off this road. We know 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: that all detectives. They went and questioned, you know, the 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: alleged killer, and he told them where the bodies could 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: be found. And look at it didn't take long. Authorities 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: went straight there, located them and then we sort of 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: know the rest, don't we set up? That is the 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: million dollar question. It was only you know, forty eight 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: hours ago we were searching a dam on the other 30 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: side of Bungnia. But as we know, or the theory 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: I guess, is that he dumped the bodies in or 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: around that damn the first search location, then returned several 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: hours later to move them again. So look, it's sort 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: of on the way back towards Sydney from the first 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: location of the second location. So the theory that the authorities 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: are working off that he simply panicks. You've better remember, 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: this alleged killer hasn't had much sleep. He probably hasn't 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: eaten much as well. He's not thinking straight and to 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: sort of panic and scramble. It seems like the way 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: he did displace scend as good as any. 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: It's peace for the families now as well, Alex. That 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: the bodies have been found obviously horrific news, but have 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: you seen any family members arrive on the scene. 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we have. It was about eight o'clock last 45 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: night in a convoy led by police. One of the 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: families arrived. It was a family of Jesse Faird. We 47 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: understand that they went into the crime scene and saw, 48 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, their loved ones, love loved one's body, which 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: is pretty Yeah, it's pretty traumatic, to be honest with 50 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: you guys. It's crazy stuff. We know that the other 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: family as well, Luke Luke's family, they've been invited. Whether 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: or not they'll take up that invitation, I guess, is 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: still to be finalized. But the bodies have now been 54 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: removed as well. That sort of happened late last night, 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: but forensics and stuff are still on scene. 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: Can I say, Alex, can you tell me? I mean, 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: when we first found out the accused wasn't cooperating with 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: police at all or helping with the investigation, and then 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: you know, he ended up I believe his lawyer, they 60 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: became president. He was then sort of assisting and helping 61 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: with police. Was it just for legal reasons or just 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: being a psychopath he didn't want to that's. 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: What we've been told. Legal reasons. I don't know. I 64 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Sort of what that means. But we know 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: that in some cases because it's obviously you know it's 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: a police officer that's been accused of this. He could 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: have been taken and walked through the main yard of 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: silver Water and then said, look, if you don't cooperate, 69 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: this is where you land up. And they don't like cops. 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: There's a few theories going around of how detectives do 71 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: their job, but they've described it as legal reasons, and 72 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: whether that's true or not, I guess it will come 73 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: out in court. But it does seem strange, doesn't It's 74 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: just another one of these questions that really hasn't been 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: answered as to why to go to so much effort 76 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: to sort of cover up your crime, then to hand 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: yourself in and then to not cooperate. 78 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, bit of alex with the families arriving at the 79 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: scene yesterday where the bodies were found, was that for 80 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: the purpose of the family in peace for the family 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: or were they actually required to identify the bodies on site? 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a requirement. But what essentially happens is 83 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: police give them an invitation. Do you want to come 84 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: to the scene, do you want to see the bodies 85 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: and they can sort of pull out at any stage, 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: depending on how they're feeling and how close they want 87 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: to get that. Yeah, we've been told that Jesse. Jesse's 88 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: family did go in and see the bodies, and but 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: Luke's family, Yeah, they yet to do that. Well, and 90 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: we know now that the bodies have been merged, so 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: they might be doing it later at a police station 92 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: confronting shocking. Yeah it is. 93 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: It's shocking news overnight, but the bodies have been found. 94 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: We appreciate your time, buddy, We really do, and thanks 95 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: for coming on the show. 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: All good talk since. 97 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk great 98 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: shows like this. Download the Nova Play find the app 99 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: store or Google Play the Ova player