1 00:00:05,841 --> 00:00:15,561 Speaker 1: I approach production. They one of them asked me if 2 00:00:15,601 --> 00:00:17,881 Speaker 1: I wanted to do help them with a movie by 3 00:00:17,921 --> 00:00:22,281 Speaker 1: some French movies and they were erotic movies. So this 4 00:00:22,401 --> 00:00:25,001 Speaker 1: is two thousand. So I cast the movies and then 5 00:00:25,081 --> 00:00:27,361 Speaker 1: for that they gave me a role in each movie. 6 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:33,081 Speaker 1: We did two movies. My first role, I'm pretty sure 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,121 Speaker 1: I played the first. Oh that's right. The first movie. 8 00:00:35,161 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: I played a day player, meaning just like just one 9 00:00:37,361 --> 00:00:40,601 Speaker 1: day and I had to be nude and it didn't 10 00:00:40,601 --> 00:00:42,521 Speaker 1: bother me. I didn't. So we told them, is this 11 00:00:42,561 --> 00:00:48,841 Speaker 1: a porno. No, it's softcore porn, so there's no penetration. Erotica. 12 00:00:49,001 --> 00:00:51,601 Speaker 1: So back then they had Redshee Diaries, you know, they 13 00:00:51,721 --> 00:00:56,121 Speaker 1: had the Emmanuel series, which was all just girly porn, 14 00:00:56,681 --> 00:01:00,121 Speaker 1: nice pretty pop plant porn, whatever you want to call it, 15 00:01:00,161 --> 00:01:04,241 Speaker 1: no penetration. So I thought, oh, yeah, that's easy. Alln't 16 00:01:04,281 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: mind being nude. Long story short that I didn't care 17 00:01:08,001 --> 00:01:11,681 Speaker 1: about being nude. As I progressed through, I got more movies. 18 00:01:11,721 --> 00:01:16,121 Speaker 1: I worked for Playboy, Playboy TV, and Playboy. When I 19 00:01:16,161 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: turned up to Playboy, I was like, oh my god, 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,801 Speaker 1: this is amazing. I'm shooting with Playboy. I didn't know, 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,761 Speaker 1: but you were supposed to do an open leg shot 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: and I was not. I didn't comfortable. Nah, I didn't 23 00:01:26,961 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: like it. Actually I physically couldn't do it because she 24 00:01:30,241 --> 00:01:32,121 Speaker 1: was begging me. She goes, I'm going to get in 25 00:01:32,161 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: trouble from Playboy. They need an open leg shot. So 26 00:01:34,961 --> 00:01:37,121 Speaker 1: I had to like sit and do Sharon stony kind 27 00:01:37,121 --> 00:01:39,801 Speaker 1: of thing. Like I was like, my legs just wouldn't 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,521 Speaker 1: I don't know, they just wouldn't open. I just was 29 00:01:42,601 --> 00:01:46,081 Speaker 1: like not, it's just it's still a bit like yeah, 30 00:01:46,121 --> 00:01:50,241 Speaker 1: it's still a bit me for me. But anyway, the producer, 31 00:01:50,361 --> 00:01:52,481 Speaker 1: one of the female producers that was on the show, 32 00:01:53,041 --> 00:01:55,841 Speaker 1: she said, you'd be perfect from one of my husband's 33 00:01:56,161 --> 00:02:01,561 Speaker 1: to TV shows or movies. We're shooting in my Hawaii here, 34 00:02:01,681 --> 00:02:03,801 Speaker 1: call him and send him your details. Anyway, So I 35 00:02:03,841 --> 00:02:07,321 Speaker 1: ended up shooting in Hawaii as well, and then met 36 00:02:07,321 --> 00:02:12,801 Speaker 1: this crazy other softcore erotic movie star called Amy Lindsay 37 00:02:12,881 --> 00:02:15,321 Speaker 1: and we was terrorized them for years. But I still 38 00:02:16,201 --> 00:02:19,241 Speaker 1: Amy taught me she had rules. I'd go in and 39 00:02:19,281 --> 00:02:21,521 Speaker 1: go all right, cool, let's go, and she'd go, No, 40 00:02:21,561 --> 00:02:22,921 Speaker 1: you can't kiss me, you can't touch me, you can't 41 00:02:22,921 --> 00:02:27,441 Speaker 1: do this, you can't do that. I was like, let's 42 00:02:27,441 --> 00:02:29,321 Speaker 1: just just get it on, like you know what I mean, 43 00:02:29,401 --> 00:02:35,161 Speaker 1: like forget all that. Yeah, I was very lucky because 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,961 Speaker 1: you know, most of the people in the industry were professional. 45 00:02:38,761 --> 00:02:42,721 Speaker 1: But I did have one incident. The day still is 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,641 Speaker 1: quite weird to me. And recently I looked at the 47 00:02:46,001 --> 00:02:49,401 Speaker 1: footage and there was a guy and he was not 48 00:02:49,641 --> 00:02:51,521 Speaker 1: really a pro. He was kind of a ringing like 49 00:02:51,561 --> 00:02:54,201 Speaker 1: somebody that usually you work with the same people. And 50 00:02:54,361 --> 00:02:56,281 Speaker 1: I mean I was shooting a lot. I was shooting, 51 00:02:56,921 --> 00:03:01,481 Speaker 1: you know, easily one to three movies a month, a lot, traveling, 52 00:03:02,001 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: still rodeoing. This is soft porn, soft porn. Yeah, most 53 00:03:05,281 --> 00:03:07,561 Speaker 1: of the time, I was a one shot wonder, meaning 54 00:03:07,761 --> 00:03:09,721 Speaker 1: back then they had tape, but I could get a 55 00:03:09,841 --> 00:03:12,721 Speaker 1: sex scene in one shot, so didn't They didn't have 56 00:03:12,721 --> 00:03:14,561 Speaker 1: to repeat it. They didn't have to really tell me 57 00:03:14,601 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: what to do. I knew she'd explained or the director 58 00:03:17,001 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: would explain to me what to do, and there you go. Also, 59 00:03:19,641 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: what was happening then porn was starting to cross over 60 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:28,161 Speaker 1: where porn stars were shooting softcore as well, but it's 61 00:03:28,281 --> 00:03:32,241 Speaker 1: pretty heavily dialogued, so some of them were not we're failing. 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,801 Speaker 1: I could come in and get my makeup done in 63 00:03:34,841 --> 00:03:37,561 Speaker 1: an hour and learn a script in an hour, so 64 00:03:37,681 --> 00:03:41,161 Speaker 1: I had some advantage over other people. So I'd get 65 00:03:41,161 --> 00:03:42,521 Speaker 1: a phone call in the morning, Hey, can you turn 66 00:03:42,601 --> 00:03:44,841 Speaker 1: up on set for movie? Blah blah blah. Yeah, no worries. 67 00:03:44,921 --> 00:03:48,041 Speaker 1: But yeah, the one I mean, the one time I 68 00:03:48,201 --> 00:03:53,081 Speaker 1: was violated. And I didn't want to be violated because 69 00:03:53,121 --> 00:03:57,321 Speaker 1: there were other times. But the other guy, I didn't 70 00:03:57,321 --> 00:03:59,841 Speaker 1: wear a patch, which the patch is like a big 71 00:03:59,881 --> 00:04:02,161 Speaker 1: band aid that you put over your pussy for this 72 00:04:02,241 --> 00:04:05,401 Speaker 1: exact reason, which is what I found out. And he 73 00:04:05,481 --> 00:04:07,761 Speaker 1: was going down on me, and he like stuck his 74 00:04:07,841 --> 00:04:09,881 Speaker 1: tongue in my pussy and he's licking my pussy, and 75 00:04:09,961 --> 00:04:12,441 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can see it in the in the thing. 76 00:04:12,481 --> 00:04:16,841 Speaker 1: I'm just like, ah, but I don't stop. I just 77 00:04:16,881 --> 00:04:18,841 Speaker 1: finished the scene, you know what I mean. I just 78 00:04:19,041 --> 00:04:22,201 Speaker 1: complete the scene because I know it's only twenty minutes, 79 00:04:22,241 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: half an hour max, you know what I mean. So 80 00:04:23,841 --> 00:04:25,921 Speaker 1: I'm just like pushing his head away, pushing his head away, 81 00:04:26,081 --> 00:04:29,001 Speaker 1: and finished the scene, went home for the day, came 82 00:04:29,001 --> 00:04:33,361 Speaker 1: back the next day. I don't even remember it passing 83 00:04:33,401 --> 00:04:34,921 Speaker 1: through my brain. You know what I mean. I just thought, 84 00:04:34,921 --> 00:04:36,681 Speaker 1: what a fuck with? You know, turned back up on 85 00:04:36,721 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: sat in the next morning, and he came and talked 86 00:04:38,201 --> 00:04:40,241 Speaker 1: to me, and I just lost it at him, like 87 00:04:40,401 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: lost it, like what the fuck are you doing talking 88 00:04:42,201 --> 00:04:45,601 Speaker 1: to me? Fuck? After it's like wha and the director 89 00:04:45,641 --> 00:04:48,041 Speaker 1: came over and said, what's going on. I go, well, 90 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:49,921 Speaker 1: yesterday he's stuck his tongue in my pussy. And she 91 00:04:50,041 --> 00:04:52,721 Speaker 1: flipped out and was like, what do you mean. I said, yeah, 92 00:04:52,761 --> 00:04:54,801 Speaker 1: well he put his you know, we're talking about it. 93 00:04:54,801 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, well, you put your tongue in 94 00:04:56,521 --> 00:04:58,841 Speaker 1: my pussy and this is fucking softcore. He goes, oh, well, 95 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,601 Speaker 1: you looked like you wanted it. I'm like, fucking acting, 96 00:05:02,681 --> 00:05:04,721 Speaker 1: you fucking idiot? Do you what do you call this? 97 00:05:05,961 --> 00:05:09,841 Speaker 1: So I got sent home and full pay. But that 98 00:05:09,961 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: was the only time and then I realized why they 99 00:05:12,001 --> 00:05:14,401 Speaker 1: were a band aid. Well, the other reason I realized 100 00:05:14,401 --> 00:05:16,801 Speaker 1: that they were a band aid was I got this 101 00:05:17,041 --> 00:05:21,441 Speaker 1: check for something called too Hot for TV and I thought, oh, 102 00:05:21,521 --> 00:05:24,201 Speaker 1: I wonder what that is. I don't know what that 103 00:05:24,241 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: would be. And then someone said to me, oh, I 104 00:05:27,201 --> 00:05:30,201 Speaker 1: saw you in a movie and I could see your 105 00:05:30,201 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: whole bush. I don't know if there was a bush, 106 00:05:33,561 --> 00:05:34,961 Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. I was like, I could 107 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:38,921 Speaker 1: see your whole pussy and I'm like, well, explain to 108 00:05:38,961 --> 00:05:40,841 Speaker 1: me what was going on, because you shouldn't be able 109 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,441 Speaker 1: to see anything. So what they explained to me was 110 00:05:43,481 --> 00:05:47,041 Speaker 1: the French movie. So the French movie they had sold 111 00:05:47,081 --> 00:05:51,241 Speaker 1: it to us, like they couldn't on TV, they couldn't 112 00:05:51,281 --> 00:05:57,321 Speaker 1: show full frontal, but for a DVD release that was 113 00:05:57,361 --> 00:06:01,001 Speaker 1: a different story. So that's why you wear the patch 114 00:06:01,561 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: because they wouldn't show the patch. They would edit that 115 00:06:04,001 --> 00:06:06,881 Speaker 1: out o the day like who gives up? Fuck? Really, 116 00:06:06,921 --> 00:06:08,841 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But now we're here, you 117 00:06:08,921 --> 00:06:10,921 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But just the way that you 118 00:06:11,001 --> 00:06:12,801 Speaker 1: kind of find out about it all, it's like there's 119 00:06:12,841 --> 00:06:14,681 Speaker 1: no rule book, you know. You have to just kind 120 00:06:14,681 --> 00:06:17,921 Speaker 1: of go through things of your own accord and set boundaries, 121 00:06:17,961 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: be a tough bitch sometimes, like my friend Amy was, 122 00:06:21,201 --> 00:06:23,801 Speaker 1: and set boundaries. But a lot of fun, a lot 123 00:06:23,801 --> 00:06:27,721 Speaker 1: of a lot of you know, lots of shoots, lots 124 00:06:27,761 --> 00:06:32,721 Speaker 1: of the whole of two thousands, I mean, on and off. 125 00:06:32,921 --> 00:06:35,921 Speaker 1: I would have sometimes I've had a boyfriend and they 126 00:06:35,961 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: didn't really like that. So didn't meet you. Didn't they 127 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,961 Speaker 1: know about it before they meet you. They did problem exactly. Well, 128 00:06:42,161 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it just wasn't I would do other movies, 129 00:06:45,521 --> 00:06:47,681 Speaker 1: and I was still doing music videos. I was with 130 00:06:48,001 --> 00:06:52,561 Speaker 1: an agency in LA that was one of the first 131 00:06:52,801 --> 00:06:57,601 Speaker 1: all tattooed gay trainees, drag queens, everything, So they would 132 00:06:57,641 --> 00:07:01,321 Speaker 1: just kind of hire our whole agency to do a 133 00:07:01,361 --> 00:07:03,601 Speaker 1: bunch of music videos. So we were doing all kinds 134 00:07:03,641 --> 00:07:06,121 Speaker 1: of fun stuff. I was still rodeo around the country 135 00:07:06,681 --> 00:07:08,641 Speaker 1: coming back black and Blue. I mean, they had to 136 00:07:08,681 --> 00:07:11,521 Speaker 1: cover my tattoos back then, That's how I was, and 137 00:07:11,561 --> 00:07:13,481 Speaker 1: so they may as well just cover some bruises as well. 138 00:07:14,121 --> 00:07:17,241 Speaker 1: But yeah, I shot in that time thirty seven movies, 139 00:07:17,281 --> 00:07:20,921 Speaker 1: seven TV shows that are on IMDb. There's probably a 140 00:07:20,921 --> 00:07:23,401 Speaker 1: few of them that are not on IMDb that never 141 00:07:23,441 --> 00:07:27,881 Speaker 1: made the cut, but lots and lots of fun. And 142 00:07:27,921 --> 00:07:30,921 Speaker 1: then during that time, so when I was not in 143 00:07:30,961 --> 00:07:35,921 Speaker 1: front of the camera, I Amy Crazy. Amy said, Hey, 144 00:07:35,961 --> 00:07:38,561 Speaker 1: do you want to work production? Some friends of mine 145 00:07:38,601 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: are shooting porn and they need a PA, like a 146 00:07:44,321 --> 00:07:48,721 Speaker 1: production assistant. So a production assistant is like the lowest 147 00:07:49,081 --> 00:07:52,521 Speaker 1: level in the movie making business. I'm like, sure, no worries. 148 00:07:52,561 --> 00:07:55,521 Speaker 1: What do we have to do? Yeah, pick up condoms 149 00:07:56,721 --> 00:08:00,481 Speaker 1: an hand out paptel. So yeah, so that's where I 150 00:08:00,521 --> 00:08:05,321 Speaker 1: started there. Luckily I quickly quickly grew because of my 151 00:08:05,361 --> 00:08:07,961 Speaker 1: skill levels. I mean, I've done a lot of production. 152 00:08:08,681 --> 00:08:11,321 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at organizing things like you know, like that. 153 00:08:11,401 --> 00:08:14,281 Speaker 1: So I went from PA. But we had some funny 154 00:08:14,281 --> 00:08:17,201 Speaker 1: times as Pas. I mean one time in Malibu, we're 155 00:08:17,241 --> 00:08:19,921 Speaker 1: shooting and these were big porn so lots of people. 156 00:08:20,441 --> 00:08:24,281 Speaker 1: We went to the local seven eleven grocery store. We 157 00:08:24,441 --> 00:08:28,201 Speaker 1: got like, you know, slabs of water, about fifty anima, 158 00:08:28,481 --> 00:08:35,081 Speaker 1: about fifty Douche lube, condoms, cigarettes, red Bull. We're just 159 00:08:35,121 --> 00:08:37,601 Speaker 1: standing in line. This is at eight o'clock in the 160 00:08:37,601 --> 00:08:41,841 Speaker 1: morning too, Like, hey, nothing going on here. We're just 161 00:08:41,841 --> 00:08:46,201 Speaker 1: gonna have a really great party, you know. So you know, 162 00:08:46,281 --> 00:08:48,961 Speaker 1: we we'd come off set. One time we went straight 163 00:08:49,001 --> 00:08:53,281 Speaker 1: to Mexico. And when you're on set, you get caught 164 00:08:53,321 --> 00:08:58,201 Speaker 1: in this world, this adult world where really inappropriate things 165 00:08:58,241 --> 00:09:01,441 Speaker 1: to say and to do or normal. So you get 166 00:09:01,481 --> 00:09:03,321 Speaker 1: back out in real life and you know, we've got 167 00:09:03,681 --> 00:09:06,881 Speaker 1: big dialdos that we brought over and these twelve people 168 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:10,001 Speaker 1: that are from Texas were just like what We're like, 169 00:09:10,121 --> 00:09:12,721 Speaker 1: all clothes off. I'm like, where's the big guy with 170 00:09:12,761 --> 00:09:16,281 Speaker 1: the biggest deer? Like, who's mine? You know what I mean? 171 00:09:16,401 --> 00:09:19,121 Speaker 1: Like these people like, who the fuck are these people? Like? 172 00:09:19,241 --> 00:09:21,361 Speaker 1: During during the trip, was staying in this big house 173 00:09:21,601 --> 00:09:23,321 Speaker 1: and one time late at night there we had big 174 00:09:23,361 --> 00:09:26,441 Speaker 1: screen TV and I was looking. I'm like, I think 175 00:09:26,481 --> 00:09:29,121 Speaker 1: I'm about to walk down the stairs in this movie. 176 00:09:29,121 --> 00:09:34,241 Speaker 1: They're like, nah, nah, here we go three two one 177 00:09:36,121 --> 00:09:38,321 Speaker 1: here I can't walking down the stairs. They were just 178 00:09:38,361 --> 00:09:42,041 Speaker 1: like what the fuck? So yeah, it was always a 179 00:09:42,081 --> 00:09:45,001 Speaker 1: lot of fun, and I quickly moved up to production 180 00:09:45,081 --> 00:09:49,441 Speaker 1: manager for a company called Wicked Pictures with a guy 181 00:09:50,321 --> 00:09:54,041 Speaker 1: who was winning winning av MS at the time, shooting 182 00:09:54,081 --> 00:09:59,841 Speaker 1: with Jessica Drake story Meet Daniels over all the big, 183 00:09:59,921 --> 00:10:08,041 Speaker 1: big guns. Uh, and yeah, I went you film tapes 184 00:10:08,041 --> 00:10:10,561 Speaker 1: of stuff. Probably that he filmed one movie a month, 185 00:10:10,641 --> 00:10:12,881 Speaker 1: So for about a year year and a half, I 186 00:10:12,881 --> 00:10:16,041 Speaker 1: guess I was shooting with him. And their movies were 187 00:10:16,201 --> 00:10:19,521 Speaker 1: a pretty big budget for porn, so fifteen thousand dollars, 188 00:10:19,561 --> 00:10:23,241 Speaker 1: which was big budget for porn, no longer soft porn, 189 00:10:23,361 --> 00:10:26,081 Speaker 1: but yeah, but still I wasn't. I mean, I was asked, 190 00:10:26,161 --> 00:10:27,241 Speaker 1: you know, do you want to be in the movie 191 00:10:27,281 --> 00:10:33,321 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Was it my deal? Still not? I 192 00:10:33,361 --> 00:10:36,081 Speaker 1: don't know. I saw I saw some I saw some stuff, 193 00:10:36,121 --> 00:10:38,601 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When I was I think 194 00:10:38,881 --> 00:10:43,121 Speaker 1: probably my first or second shoot. That was a guy 195 00:10:43,161 --> 00:10:47,161 Speaker 1: who was who was a big star in the adult 196 00:10:47,161 --> 00:10:49,561 Speaker 1: industry and a guy you know that's kind of hard 197 00:10:49,561 --> 00:10:52,041 Speaker 1: for a guy, but he was used a lot. And 198 00:10:52,801 --> 00:10:55,201 Speaker 1: there was a young girl she had to do DP. 199 00:10:57,041 --> 00:10:59,761 Speaker 1: I don't think she'd ever done a scene before. So 200 00:10:59,921 --> 00:11:02,721 Speaker 1: two Dick's first scene. I was just like, do you 201 00:11:02,761 --> 00:11:06,041 Speaker 1: know what you got yourself into? Here's them he used 202 00:11:06,041 --> 00:11:10,761 Speaker 1: to like. And she's all like, oh, yeah, this is great, 203 00:11:10,801 --> 00:11:17,201 Speaker 1: this is great, this is great. And the guy I'm 204 00:11:17,241 --> 00:11:19,921 Speaker 1: looking at his dick and he has blisters on his dick, 205 00:11:20,441 --> 00:11:23,201 Speaker 1: I know, and I'm staring at it, and he goes, 206 00:11:23,241 --> 00:11:28,841 Speaker 1: don't tell anyone, don't say anything. I'm like, dude, are 207 00:11:28,881 --> 00:11:32,481 Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? He's like, oh, I need to 208 00:11:32,481 --> 00:11:37,241 Speaker 1: do the scene. So that was like I I didn't 209 00:11:37,281 --> 00:11:39,041 Speaker 1: have any say, you know, I was just a pa 210 00:11:39,161 --> 00:11:41,441 Speaker 1: back then, and I was just like, oh, this is 211 00:11:41,521 --> 00:11:43,881 Speaker 1: not so good. Yeah, I'm like, hopefully he's going to 212 00:11:43,921 --> 00:11:48,241 Speaker 1: put a condom on, right or something. I'm like, huh, 213 00:11:49,201 --> 00:11:51,961 Speaker 1: choice of Yeah, I don't think so either. But yeah. 214 00:11:51,961 --> 00:11:56,161 Speaker 1: The girl came out after a scene and obviously must 215 00:11:56,161 --> 00:12:00,841 Speaker 1: have had herpes, and her ass was just throttled, tears 216 00:12:00,841 --> 00:12:04,401 Speaker 1: coming down her eyes, and I was like, Wow, Okay, 217 00:12:05,161 --> 00:12:07,841 Speaker 1: did you know what you're getting yourself into? Yes, but 218 00:12:08,121 --> 00:12:11,961 Speaker 1: my boyfriend wanted me to and I'm like, fuck man, 219 00:12:12,161 --> 00:12:15,761 Speaker 1: you know, but going into the adult industry, there's no 220 00:12:16,681 --> 00:12:21,281 Speaker 1: U turn. I want to listen to the episode in full. 221 00:12:21,321 --> 00:12:32,321 Speaker 1: Click the link in the description. M