1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Springers here finals are almost upon us scas how to 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: survive the voyage. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Good seed Jed survived it well back the winner at 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: more for bill rate five. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 3: That was it for the weekend mode. Some lawns. Give 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 3: myself up about you. 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 4: Claire chose the theater. 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: I chose the movie, a little bit of culture, the 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: way sport for a while, and lawns and betting on 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: the horses. All right, so we settle ourselves for all 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: that's in the store that the bye weekend is the 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: source of consternation and debate. The AFL is unapologetic, as 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Andrew doing doubled down today. 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 5: What it has is allows the clubs that are in 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 5: the A to really set themselves. It allows the clubs 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 5: that are in the A to enjoy the fact that 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 5: they've made it and then really set themselves for a 18 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 5: big first week of finals. I think what it also 19 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 5: does is does open up the final right to be 20 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 5: a true final eight, so that any team who's made it, 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 5: who's got the opportunity, if things go their way, to 22 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 5: make it edit the last Saturday and September and then 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 5: be competitive. 24 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Then the true final eight is an interesting notion. I 25 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: think it speaks of an equalized final series. That's not 26 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: really how it was manifested, and that's not why this 27 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: change was made. This change was made about the integrity 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: of the final of the home and away season because 29 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: teams took liberties at selections, and what it has done 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: has altered the patterns that have governed the final. It 31 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: has diluted the advantage of the top four that has 32 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: hard won over twenty four rounds. 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: So that's the actual debate. 34 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: If the competition is happy with that, and premiers have 35 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,919 Speaker 1: come from fifth and seventh, it's been a much broader 36 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: proposition than it had been historically, and the two teams 37 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: who ran most seriously against this have been the Sydney's 38 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: Ones and the Brisbane Lines. 39 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: So you would expect over some of the Greg. 40 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: Swan and Tom Harley would run some sort of review internally, 41 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: have the debate, work out what we want and then 42 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: articulate properly why we're doing the. 43 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: Buy go will revisit. 44 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: You are no fan, no. 45 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: No, I think what it's done to the patterns of 46 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: the final series is troubling. And it's cute that a 47 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: team won it from six, and it's great that a 48 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: team heroically won. 49 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: From fifth, but that's not the point. 50 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: We play for six months to pick an order and 51 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: then we give everyone a breather. 52 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah see, I picked my fights on this because the 53 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: six months is are fast anyway. 54 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so fixed that as well. 55 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: So I don't want to get up in arms about 56 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: the end system when the system that qualifies you is 57 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: just totally manipulated from the start anyway, and compromise. So 58 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: I'm just going to have to ride this out until 59 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: we get to that stage where it's play every one month. 60 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: Here. 61 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: There's a futures project in this and I hope we 62 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: do get there one day. The fish Shares. The presenters 63 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: were announce day today, so Luke Codge, Norm Smith medal presenter, 64 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Adam Simpson, the Jock McHale Medal, Ken Fraser to the 65 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: winning Captain, the Ron Brassy Medal, and Jack Revolt's got 66 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: the junket. 67 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: We know. 68 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: My first question as John Longmeyer burned the Brazili yet 69 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: if he hasn't, and it makes for a very interesting 70 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: Wednesday night. This is a good good lineup here, good 71 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: lineup of our some of our all time grades. 72 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then once we know the teams, you get 73 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: the cup presenters as well. 74 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: It's a arming aspects of the day. 75 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: The weather forecast looks pretty good around the country. Bar Perth, 76 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: so sort of be aware of this. Up to twenty 77 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: five mills is of the early forecast for Saturday night. 78 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: That's a good drop. This is my portfolio weather, Jared, 79 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're getting in. I've looked at Sydney. 80 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: That's where I'm headed. And minor just minor details here. 81 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: All right, this is what we have lined up for you. 82 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: Adam Kingsley and Sam Mitchell are shortly going to join us. 83 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: As we look towards the elimination final in Sydney, Jack Revolt, 84 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, Jonathan Brown and Nathan Buckley on the couch 85 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. The other side of the elimination finals, Justin 86 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Longmuller and Damian Hardwick, Ray Chamberlain. As we look towards 87 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: September umpiring and then John Longmire and Adam Simpson can 88 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: fight it out together on Wednesday night. 89 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: We'll have some. 90 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Teams for good lineup as well. All right, let's get 91 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: into the top of the agenda. The finals are upon us, 92 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: so three sleeps to go. It has been a lopsided season, 93 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: but that should lead to a power packed final series 94 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: as the good teams are poised to clash. 95 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 6: I think we've got of chances anyone or chances anyone. 96 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: We're a good position, good position. 97 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: Well, we're never over confident. 98 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: I got a feeling Thursday night. It would be quite 99 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: an emotional night for a lot of people. 100 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 6: For a lot of people, you realize how close you 101 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 6: are now. That's why I just know it's a whole 102 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 6: new ball game, the. 103 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: Challenges you come up against the best of the best 104 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: in finals. 105 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: I think the group's hungry. 106 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: They've been there seven times in a row. They've proven 107 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: that they want to be there again this year. I'd 108 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: be surprised if either team is over confident in terms 109 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: of their system versus the other. 110 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 6: It's just something about these two teams that really really 111 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 6: challenge each other at their best. 112 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 4: I'd say there's probably going to be a fair bit. 113 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 5: Of emotion around this Thursday night as well. 114 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: It's will to make for a great contest. We have 115 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: a really good rivalry. 116 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: Rivalries, real rivalries, not the made up ones. The real 117 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: rivalries only come. 118 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: Together when you've got two teams who are in contention. 119 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: So it's a privilege to be considered one of them. 120 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: Can you win it? 121 00:04:59,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 122 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 6: I think we can, and look at the other eight 123 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 6: teams and be saying the same things. It's small margins 124 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 6: around now, and yeah, well we'll give it our best shot. 125 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: Hopefully there's a few more Willies to come this year. 126 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: Darcy. 127 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: We're not sneaking into everything that's wet. 128 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: Will you fades quite gold? 129 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: All right, that's the starting point on Thursday night the 130 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: Crows and Collingwood. So just give us a couple of 131 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: minutes onto each game to set the terms for us. 132 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: The time we were sitting here, we were waiting for 133 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: we're trying to make a case for I didn't go 134 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: well good. 135 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: What you said was exactly right. She was going to 136 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: be a big number. 137 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: So this has got recent grudge as part of it. 138 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: There's been a set of thrillers that have been contentious 139 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: at times, and now it feels a bit combustible as 140 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: they read. 141 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: So I did the game mcgler in the year and 142 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: they walked away from that and you just had a 143 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: feeling that Adelaide was still not quite there. And what 144 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: they've done since then has been beyond approach. They've been 145 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: the best team in the comp since. 146 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: About that time. 147 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: And the fascinating thing about this is what to it 148 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: kind of look like? What does the game itself look like? 149 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: Because the game that we watched there three weeks ago 150 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: was like unlike many I've ever seen, and we know, 151 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: we understand the reasons why, who was to blame, who 152 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: was more satisfied, who was more comfortable with it? So 153 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: you know, Finals footy changes, Jared, the whole way of 154 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: the game's played changes. So it is whether these three 155 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: big tools can continue to have the impact they've had 156 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: through the home and away. It's a defense of the 157 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Adelaide Crows that has become the benchmark. And in amongst 158 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: the benchmark, they've got these two magnificent defenders in Keenan 159 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: Warrel who come up against I think my check and 160 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: McStay have been off, so I've identified that it's stillmost 161 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: to turn the tables job there my checkim X Day've 162 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: got to be competitive against Keenan Warrel. That's how important 163 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: those two have become. And then you go the other end, 164 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: can More and Frampton and probably may not handle the 165 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: three of them, or will finals footage just dictate again 166 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: that bore on ground get to work. So it's it's 167 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: it's beautifully poised. It's a great way to start. I 168 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: think they've got it right. And the winner who. 169 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: Must have one foot in it. 170 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the Crows have spent so long building for this moment, 171 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: but they are untested at this stage. This is the 172 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: Collingwood longsuit is gather, gather, the army, circle the wagons, 173 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: get on the road, going to whether the territory make 174 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: a stand. There's a couple of generations that have been 175 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: doing this, so it plays to their longsuit. 176 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: Do I mean everyone, every single one a week convinced, 177 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: and this is the week where we just sit here 178 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: and wait for. 179 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: The game to start. Because then you just speculate and you're. 180 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: Throwing up scenarios and everyone's going to have a theory, 181 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: and you know they'll be coach. There is off, they'll 182 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: know each other's games inside out, and then it just 183 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: comes down to execution on the night or the day 184 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: as it might turn out. So this will be a belter. 185 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: I'm leaning towards. I think it's real what ad later 186 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: been able to do. And I guess I've watched them 187 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: a lot and been over to watch them a lot, 188 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: which is not discounting Collingwood's chances. Anyone that says suggests 189 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: they know who's winning is braver than me and Collingwood. 190 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: If Collingwood prevail, then would go, Yeah, they've been here before. 191 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: Friday Night's a couple of heavyweights who have met continuously 192 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: in September's. It's just tipping the lines favor in recent times. 193 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: It feels that, so this is heavyweight stuff. Does the 194 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: Premiership favorite emerge from this game? 195 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm not going that far, because I mean, 196 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: if Adelaide one, you've got to go over there and 197 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: play them on their own own ground. So now I 198 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't go that far. But this is genuine These are 199 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: teams who know what it takes. We're at GMHBA and 200 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: we watched the Lions take on Geelong up on that 201 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: Friday night game and we thought, oh, this will be 202 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: testing for and the confidence that just emanated from Brisbane 203 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: before the game, not over confidence, not arrogance, but just 204 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: confidence in their ability to play at the level because 205 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: I think Gelong would have been red hot favorites and 206 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: they donkey lick them yep, And it was Anders did 207 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: a big job on Shannonie. I've already had a bit 208 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: of a look at this for Friday night and the 209 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: way they play Geelong three the last three times they've won. Now, 210 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: Chriscott said that the system is not going to surprise anyone, 211 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: but they were brave. Remember that game on Friday Night. 212 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: They just picked the eyes out of everything through the 213 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: middle of the ground. 214 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: So full warned is forearmed. They'll know what's coming. 215 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes these smaller Gelong defenders that get up high and 216 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: you know they like the transition, They're going to have 217 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: to get to work defensively, Jarrett in this game, big 218 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: big space at the MC. 219 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: So only the great teams go back to back. This 220 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: is the opportunity of the Brisbane have set themselves for 221 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Both of these sides will believe they're better placed than 222 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: last year. Brisbane by virtue have been in the top 223 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: four and Geelong by the personnel changes that have been made, 224 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: having led that preliminary final by four goals or so. 225 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: Chris Scott has the two premierships. You sort of feel 226 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: like by the time he's finished it will be more 227 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: than two. But you've actually got to go in and 228 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: get it done. The bit why I think I do 229 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: think the premiership favorite comes from this game is because 230 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: we'll trust both Gelong and the Brisbane lines at the MCG. 231 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: They're one half of the billing adelaide. That will be 232 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: the last step that they have to conquer is to 233 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: work their way through. Should they win, they'll be fearsomely 234 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: hard to beat in a preliminary final, but then you've 235 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: got to come to the MCG. Both of these have 236 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: been there and done that. 237 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: That's fair. 238 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: Both teams supporters would be very confident of what they're 239 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: capable of doing. And it's going to be an outstanding 240 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: Friday Night. And there's some players within both teams that 241 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: you just can't wait to see them back on that stage. 242 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: And that band Shaton New York going to keep talking 243 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: about him. He's going to have a big same things 244 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: on Friday Night. One way or the other. 245 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Elimination finals, it's the Giants and Hawthorns, and these are 246 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: the two teams to me that there's a path to 247 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: forge here. I don't think they're one and done in 248 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 1: this final series. It's stacked for now. They both have 249 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: the experience last year they were jilted in semi finals. 250 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: They both would feel like they got cut off too soon. 251 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: Only one of them. 252 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: Gets out of this, but whoever gets out of that 253 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: I think is a big threat to pummell their way 254 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: out a little bit deeper. 255 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: Kingsley and Sam Mitchell join us tonight. We'll put the 256 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: questions to them. Health versus Hollywood is how it's build 257 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: for me. So they've got some big question marks over 258 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: some really big influential players at Giants and just how 259 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: big at risks they'll take. 260 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: And we'll put that to Adam when he joins us. 261 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 2: And then you've got the Hollywood Hawks that would jumping 262 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 2: out their skin trying to get back here. 263 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: They won one final, they got a taste. 264 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: They went down to Kenny's mob in circumstances last week 265 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: that last year. 266 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: That wouldn't sit well with them. 267 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: And I think they're in good four Morton as well, 268 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: so this would be great. Hogan, Stringer, Buckley, Kelly Daniels 269 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: all got question mark. 270 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: So it'd be interesting to see what sort of a. 271 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Mood for risk they're in, all right, and then open 272 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: perse you're leaning one way not. 273 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: I admire both of these. It'll take me. 274 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: It'll probably take to a selection to figure it out. 275 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: This time last year, Carlton. 276 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: Brought all of their players back and it blew up 277 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: spectacularly on them. 278 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: So there is a lot time to walk. 279 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: Isn't that they'll make the right call, but it'll be 280 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: interesting to get them the mentality, the early win the 281 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: week mentality from the coaches. 282 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: And then in the West, Fremantle have been here before. 283 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty two they won their home elimination 284 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: final and then they sort of pulled it half apart 285 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: and tried to rebuild it again. And now they're back 286 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: and gold Coast get their first look at it there. 287 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: It was a lovely piece of symmetry that the Sons 288 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: had their biggest ever win at the. 289 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: Moment of qualification. 290 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 291 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: And this is a man who gives you the confidence 292 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: if your Gold Coast Sun supporter. 293 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: It's just how. 294 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: Quickly he can impart upon this playing group the needs 295 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: of finals footy and what they need to be able 296 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: to produce and how they need to play against the 297 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: Freemantle side. They might have just unlocked something against the 298 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Western Bulldogs at Marvel Stadium, not unlocked it, because that's unfair. 299 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: They had been on a good winning streak, but reinforced 300 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: to themselves how to play in a manner that can 301 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: carry them beyond this week. 302 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: So I guess the question for me is how. 303 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: Happy are the Gold Coast sons with what they've achieved? 304 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: So I know Freemantle wouldn't be because they'ven't lived this. 305 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: Before, so they it's just that's' been disrespectful and if 306 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: Dimmer was watching, he'd probably bristled up. But you know, 307 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: it's human nature. It's the first crack at it. They 308 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: played with this unbated freedom. Or do they go, yeah, 309 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: we've done a great job. Here we are, We've got 310 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: that monkey off our back or is it No? This 311 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: is just starting and Damien is the best in the 312 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: business to be able to get that message and bang 313 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: it and bang and bang the table and bang the table. 314 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: But he won't know until Saturday night when the ball 315 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: gets bounced of how successful he's made. 316 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: And for free Mattle is you just have to win 317 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: your home final in front of nearly sixty thousand fans. 318 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: Don't you. 319 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: You do, and you play aggressive and you're back in 320 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: your strengths and c IFA can ride. 321 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: It's a great first week. 322 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 4: Of the final. Yeah, it really is, It really is. 323 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to all. 324 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: Right, Sam Mitchell and Adam Kingsley are going to join 325 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: us shortly. The trade market does spin. Charlie Kerno got 326 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: to his exit interview and he said it out loud, 327 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: at least to a degree that he was open to 328 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: a trade. Michael Voss was on SEM this morning to 329 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: voice his view. 330 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: Did he ask for a trade in his exit meeting? 331 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: Open was more? 332 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 7: Was more of the language used, and obviously from our 333 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 7: position it was, you know, it was pretty clear. 334 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: So it's we. 335 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 7: Don't feel like we're certainly in that position to want 336 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 7: to go down that path. That position was well and 337 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 7: truly communicated back to him, you know, and then obviously 338 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 7: from from that point on we sort of moved on 339 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 7: to other topics and sort of talked about his year 340 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 7: and how we can make him better and get back 341 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 7: to that striking form that you had only only twelve 342 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 7: months ago. 343 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: Will you answer the phone for offers for Kerno? No? 344 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 7: No, where Our position is pretty clear, and it was 345 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 7: you know, it's been stated from well, I don't even 346 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 7: know publicly whether I actually said anything, have we but no, 347 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 7: he'll be at Carton in twenty twenty six, and look 348 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 7: those discussions if there's if there's any others will continue 349 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 7: to have behind closed doors. But as I stated, there's 350 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 7: you know what is your two time colin medalists could 351 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 7: have been three. He's got four years to run on 352 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 7: a contract. You know, we feel like he's an incredibly 353 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 7: important person to us. 354 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: Don't even bother calling. It's a great position to start 355 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: negotiation from. 356 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: I bet they do. I believe Michael broadly. I don't 357 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: believe anything. As I stated often and Charlie's exhibit A 358 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: kept telling every damn reporter that's stuck in microphone under 359 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: his name that he's happy and he don't want to 360 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: go anywhere now. He's the die has been cast, so 361 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: he's shown it out. He's taken off overseas now and 362 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: he's going to leave it. Good managers to sort out 363 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: what about this carnade of Sydney. Chad Warner to fremantle, 364 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Luke Jackson to Carlton. 365 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 4: Is this your Naza's staying moment? 366 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: I made this up right, we exactly so you know 367 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: what I mean. I was looked at it and thought 368 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: I can't see how it had happened. I don't know. 369 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: I got no I got no clue about any of this. 370 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: It's not my area. But that. You know what happens 371 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: if that gets thrown up. I don't know. 372 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: Please free out supporters. Supporters is totally made up. I'm 373 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: talking hypotheticals. You know, there's they've said no. Carlton said no, boss, 374 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: he said, don't even bother. But what if that came around, 375 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: then they go, hang on. 376 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: We might bother. We'll get a bit of thought. 377 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 4: So I don't. 378 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me. It's not my side. I'll be 379 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: interested by standard and I'll let those that play in 380 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: this space go to it. But not for one second 381 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: I think that's dead in the water. Not for one 382 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: second I think that is dead in the water. 383 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: Does he have the currency for Carlton to demand the 384 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: super trade. 385 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: For him because he's because they've got the marketing power, 386 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: they've got the contract. 387 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: He's got four more years. 388 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, of course, of course they do. 389 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: Don't call us four year contract. So if you do 390 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: call us, you better come, just come. 391 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: Don't be happening with Olli, Floren and first. But if 392 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: you have got something, then we'll pick it up. 393 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: This is the other side of the long term deal 394 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: for a player, isn't it If things if you waiver 395 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: along the way you have signed away so long that 396 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: you really you have no capacity to do anything other 397 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: than ponder out loud if you're up for it, I'm 398 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: up for you. 399 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 7: No. 400 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: And I don't know the context of what happened with 401 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: Charlie Boss he said he said he's open to it. 402 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: That might be the gentlest and kindest explanation, but they've 403 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: got to know. This is the world we live in. 404 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: You put your name to the long term happen, then 405 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: that you're to cop that. So you might say I'm 406 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: open to it. If it comes back, it doesn't happen. 407 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: Every expectation in the football world, from the Carleton CEO 408 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 2: to the number supporter eighty seven thousand, expects him to 409 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: be at training day one pre season working is ours 410 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: off as hard as he ever has. 411 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: Yep, that's the world we live in. 412 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 4: J Clark's had a busy day. 413 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: He's got Chris Davey's going as the GM of footage 414 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: of the Blues, which would be some sort of coupe. 415 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: And he's also reported that so Sam Draper has told 416 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Essendon that he's going to exercise his free agency rights. 417 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: It's always had him most likely to land in Brisbane, 418 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: but we do know that Adelaide have made a player 419 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: along the way to keep themselves viable. 420 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: In the conversation, I can't see why I don't Riley 421 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: and Ryan I think has been fantastic for so that 422 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense at all to me. Adelaide Brisbane does, 423 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: so Oscar Mcinernie and Darcy Fort. 424 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: Then I think Sam Draper fits. Sam Drake makes them better. 425 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: He's a free agent, yes, so that's that makes it 426 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: even more attractive from a Brisbane point of view. 427 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's another. 428 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: Blow the Ridley news as well, that emerged over the weekend. 429 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: It's an interesting time for the s and footy club. 430 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: So they would rather keep Sam Draper, that's no question 431 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: about that. That was put to me earlier today. Of 432 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: course I'd rather keep him. But you're free agent, your 433 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: free agent. 434 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: So Brisbane of mine the free agency market. 435 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Well, if they end up with both Oscar Allen and 436 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: Sam Draper players, you don't have to trade for assets. 437 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: That you add. 438 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: So it's a free swing with Alan to get his 439 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: body right because of the circumstances you get him in 440 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: and is exactly what they need. 441 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: An academy kid that's coming in. 442 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: To pick three or four, he said for good no 443 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: wonder fags can go back to Tazzy all right. The 444 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: AFL Awards for Thursday right here on Fox. There's always 445 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: moments of contention and debate out of the All Australian team. 446 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: Not often are they presented though, in such a manner 447 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: regarding the captain. So Jeremy Cameron, who was as mift 448 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: as anyone to be named this year's captain. 449 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 5: And the captain of the twenty twenty five AFL All 450 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 5: Australian Team is Jeremy Cameron from the Geelong Katz. 451 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 8: I don't think I've captained anything in my life, mate. 452 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: In fact, I think it was any bloody team in 453 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: my life. 454 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: So cast your mind. 455 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: Back, because I was looking to see if you'd filled 456 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: in at the Giants or the Cats, but you hadn't 457 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: and I couldn't see what. 458 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: Had happened to dart More etc. 459 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 4: So have you captained a football team before? 460 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 8: Honestly, I've never keptain anything. So Dangers asked me a 461 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 8: couple of times to do their pre match speech and 462 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 8: I've knocked him back. So I've had absolutely no practice 463 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 8: at all. It's you know, it's just a privilege. To 464 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 8: sort of be named the captain. No, I'm still trying 465 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 8: to figure out why. 466 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: So this is a mistake. But you're our resident captain. 467 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: How does it sit with you? 468 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: It's got participation certificate vibes about it, Jared, And that's 469 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 2: not what the all Australians all about. That's not what 470 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: the Australian captaincy should be all about. And I don't 471 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: I would think there wouldn't be another ten people in 472 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Australia that would come up with Jeremy Cameron as the 473 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 2: Australian Captain. 474 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: And you know this is not disrespectful to Jeremy. 475 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: Jeremy doesn't think he's the Australian Captain and was a 476 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 2: bit sheepish about it all. 477 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 3: There was genuine there were genuine captains there for the taking. 478 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: And the fact that I want to explain to me, 479 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 2: I haven't heard it. I haven't heard any I want 480 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: you know, I've I've got the panel there. 481 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 9: So Eddie, jew Bolton, Bucks, Cornsey, Abbey Holmes, Laura Kaine, 482 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 9: Glenn Jakovich, pav explain this to me because it makes 483 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 9: no sense at all. 484 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: So it's been used from time to time as a 485 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: ceremonial position, and this was the case with Alex Rants 486 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: and Lance Franklin. That was probably the moment where they 487 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: tried to land it and maybe they got away with 488 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: that one. Then it was done again with Tom Hawkins. 489 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: Just going back through the records as Andrew McLeod was 490 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: the captain one year and Greg William so not absolutely 491 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: without precedent. But I think what gets missed here is 492 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: that the All Australian team is critical as a historic 493 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: guide what was football in twenty twenty five And I 494 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: think for a long time the captain of the All 495 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: Australian has. 496 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: Been the revered position as who is the game's great leader. 497 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: So again, if you go back, you will find Paul 498 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: Kelly multiple times, Wayne Kerry multiple times, Michael Voss multiple times, 499 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: Joe Sellward multiple times, Mark Roshudo multiple times. It speaks 500 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: of these were the games great leaders. And now we're 501 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: using it in a different way. We're saying, well, one's 502 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: enough for your CV, and then we'll use it in 503 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: this ceremonial way to honor perennials in the team and 504 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: those who have had great careers. So what it won't 505 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: tell you now is who was the great leader of 506 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: the day, you'll have to go to a different list. 507 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: And that's a mistake. It shouldn't have got out. It 508 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been got out of the room once it 509 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: was floated. With five club captains on the list, there 510 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: should have been saying, hey, this is a no fault, 511 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: this is no will not fly this year. 512 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: And. 513 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: I named the selectors for it. That's your responsibility. 514 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: So has anyone tried to explain this to you in 515 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. 516 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: I've been off the air. 517 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we spoke about a little bit with Bucks 518 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they'll ask him on coup. So he's 519 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: not a believer in it, but he is part of 520 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: the panel that voted, and it was a hairline vote 521 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: as to how it got up. 522 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: So I'm absolutely sure that there'd be I he's looking 523 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: at that group, there'd be people upon that group that 524 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't have voted for that. I'll be certain of that. 525 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: So it wouldn't have been a unanimous picture. And what 526 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: it gets through is beyond and what gets missed. 527 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: So Harris Andrews premiership captain and perennial in the team. 528 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: En Dawson has been the season's best leader. Max Gorn 529 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: has been the era as great leader. Marcus Bontanpelli has 530 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: grown into this position as the game statement, and Noah 531 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: Anderson is the emerging captain. 532 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 4: You can't ignore a group like that. 533 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: You had to choose from there for the historic nature 534 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: of how we're going to look back at twenty twenty five. 535 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the team, it's fine. And everyone doesn't agree 536 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: on the team, that's okay. 537 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: I don't. 538 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: I'll never get into the bashing of the selectors over 539 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: the team because it's but when it gets to this 540 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: sort of thing, I mean, it doesn't make any sense 541 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: at all. And it's a sensible group of people that 542 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: are assembled to put this together. So I don't know 543 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: how they arrived at Yeah, and it's, as I said, 544 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: in an era where we're given out certificates for participating 545 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: and it's the captaincy, the Australian captaincy is not that 546 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: we 547 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 4: Should recalibrate that from here,